What are your thoughts on Jenkins' run on Spider-Man?

What are your thoughts on Jenkins' run on Spider-Man?

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Underrated gem

Overrated trash

The duality of man

That art is unwashed ball sweat.

When I was reading it while being a teen way back when, I felt it sometimes to be disturbing, touching and even dull at times. However there were for example the Chameleon-story and both Green Goblin-arcs, that I found to be phenomenal even way back when. Nowadays I find them to be even better. Underrated is the word here.

The storyline collected in the "Revenge of the Green Goblin"-tradepaper, with Norman drugging Pete over months and abducting him, is still one, if not THE best Green Goblin story in the whole Spidey-mythos.

The guy who said it's trash is a casual who has bad taste

The fella what uttered about it being a gem is a fool whom has low opinions.

This taps into my opinion of it, which is that it's very inconsistently good. I wouldn't praise the run itself as much as certain stories in the run.

Can I get some specifics as to in which issues/books his run took place

Peter Parker: Spider-Man #20-50
Spectacular Spider-Man V2 #1-27

What are some of the best stories?

There were some high points as your pick and some extremely low points like pic related. It's really intresting that all Spider-Man books went to shit as soon as he got tied into the Avengers

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>It's really intresting that all Spider-Man books went to shit as soon as he got tied into the Avengers
Because despite Marvel's best efforts, Peter has always worked best not on a team.

Had a few winners, like the Fusion/Doc Ock Story, but was mainly not very good.

I didn’t like his Norman story. Maybe for a different hero and villain it would’ve worked, but it just feels completely tone deaf to their rivalry.

Curt having control of the Lizard was one of the worst retcons for a while, until other writers decided to go dumber.

Its really good up until Spectacular starts just for him,what an awful series. Really one of the starts of that 2000s era of the one creator given too much power, with no editor saying no to him or helping his ideas. I cant think of any issues of the Spec run besides the one Uncle Ben Mark Buckingham issue he ends on thats good.

A Death in the Family will forever be my favorite Spider-Man story. In my eyes no other story comes close. Every issue is a gut punch and the ending genuinely got to me.
>PEter Parker: Spider-Man 44-47

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>Curt having control of the Lizard was one of the worst retcons for a while
Curt being able to (sometimes) control the Lizard had been a thing for a while

What about the Venom story that started out his SSM run?

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>Sometimes

Key word there, and that idea was for him to not be an evil asshole. There’s a reason subsequent stories ignore Jenkins’ retcon.

he wrote one of the few Spider-Man issues that made me cry

Yeah everyone except Millar where he had Peter talk about how much of an asshole he was in his inner monologue.

You're doing this deliberately, aren't you?

>The storyline collected in the "Revenge of the Green Goblin"-tradepaper, with Norman drugging Pete over months and abducting him, is still one, if not THE best Green Goblin story in the whole Spidey-mythos.

Jenkins only wrote the final chapter of that story, and it is great, but the other parts weren't so good. Norman using mind-control toothpaste on Spider-Man is one of his sillier stories.

I believe the user doing this has terrible taste.

> hating on the Roger Stern portion of it that laid the foundation of why Norman was a monster even without the Goblin serum.

The other guy is just as trash as his tastes

It was great when it was the smaller character piece that supported the main Amazing title, but got terrible once it tried to be all action.

Those one off issues, like Peter going to the Mets game or Peter fighting the Vulture, are pure gold that made me fall in love with Spider-Man again after all that horrible Clone nonsense. When he shifted and tried to do more 'blockbuster' stories (The Green Goblin story pictured, or the weird trenchcoat Doc Ock story) is when I bailed.

Goat. One of my favorite Spider-Man things, period.

These are great though. Trenchcoat Ock is best Ock.

Great writer. RAMOS on the other hand is a terrible fucking artist.

Listen to this here man!

Seriously, the whole Goblin thing from Mackie and Jenkins was perfect. Not the plain-crazy, almost laughable depiction Norman is nowadays, but scheming, planning and downright evil. If the late 90s and early 2000s got SOMETHING right, it is the characterization of Norman Osborn. Nothing came close to it - BEFORE or after.

>Nothing came close to it - BEFORE or after.
>claiming that fucking Stan Lee got Norman's characterization wrong
fuck off

Paul Jenkins run is great even some of the spectacular stuff is good.

The thing you have to do to get his run is focus on his single issues, as a creator he was killed by the write for the trade mentality Bendis brought in. He writes Spider-man as slice of life stories about a day. His best issues are about

-Playing poker with superheroes
-Spending a day with Aunt May after she finds out
-Peter Parker vs Sandman with depression
-a kid with cerebral palsy meets spider-man.
-Spider-man remembers Uncle Ben at a mets game.

He's good but his focus on single issues when he could made his run.

Man your english is difficult to read

I'm tired from work. But the point is, when Bendis made the six issue style popular for trade reading he killed Jenkin's run when he decided to do it.