We live in a world where Iron Man, Thor, Captain Marvel, Black Panther...

Maybe other film makers should make good movies then?

>Zack Snyder in charge
>two movies with Superman, Batman and Wonder woman get mediocre box office
>Zack Snyder is removed
>fucking Aquaman breaks the 1 billion dollar mark

It really makes you think.

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>any of those
>((((((((goood))))))))

>>two movies with Superman, Batman and Wonder woman get mediocre box office

Wonder Woman did phenomenally well.

BvS did well and sold more merch than any marvel movie.

>Captain Marvel
>more well-known than Superman, Batman, Fantastic Four, and X-Men

this isn't even close to true

them and Spider-Man were pretty much the biggest comics of the 60s and they were a top 5 seller all the way into the 80s

The bar for BvS was Civil War.
And Batman always sells piles of merch every year. It's not really attributable to a single movie.

If Black Panther didn't have that movie people wouldn't give a shit about him.

>we live in a world where 'normal people' care about capeshit but don't know anything about law or history beside contemporary puppet-theater partisan politics.

Newsflash: Yea Forums isn't full of normal people. It's full of underage B& and autistic neets.

>And Batman always sells piles of merch every year. It's not really attributable to a single movie.
Yeah, but superman sold more merch that captain america or any marvel character that year aside from spider-man. I'm not even saying bvs was good, it wasn't, most capeshit is garbage, but you can't blame snyder when it's clear that the factor wasn't snyder, JL flop was on WB hands

>>>We live in a world where Iron Man, Thor, Captain Marvel, Black Panther, and Black Widow are far more well-known than Superman, Batman, Fantastic Four, and X-Men
No we don’t

are there dinosaur heros

>black widow

You know what do I find unnerving?

Thanks to the capeshit films, these superhero characters have become immensely popular, more than ever before, with TONS of exposure to potential new readers.

And both DC and Marvel have failed spectaculary to capitalize from that, their comics don't sell particulary better and have not gained any new readership. Is there any better, more clear proof that the people in charge are completely inept?

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Worst timeline to live.

Very Good!

And if Batman didn't make money DC as a company wouldn't exist

Where are you getting these numbers on merch sales? I am actually curious about that sort of data.

Hi Zack!

His ass
Delusional

Use Google Trends. I searched and Iron Man was very far from Batman's popularity

>Batman and Superman aren’t well known
>so much so that they’re fucking everywhere before marvel characters were even a thought

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If you're stupid enough to be a DC fan probably

Luckily there's a cure for that

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This. Although I was surprised to find out that Teen Titans has been more popular than X-Men since 2012 despite all the movies.

>Th-They were popular 30-60 years ago th-that means they're popular now!

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so you're saying it took the new millenium for marvel heroes to reach relevance?

Stegron is a dinosaur villain

Literally is.

Captain Marvel is already ingrained in US pop culture before the movie even came out

Ask a zoomer who the Fantastic Four are and they'll look at you confused and think those nobodies from that movie that bombed a few years ago

Yes they still are. Japan loves them both. Superman is well liked in South America and China. Batman is just fucking everywhere

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In the 60's they did. But yea, no one has given a shit for 50 years. The only reason they are still around in comics is that the world building in their old comics is the entire marvel comic world now

Marvel Damage Control thread

inbefore black panther has 3 deserved oscars...

A comparison of Batman's and Spider-Man's popularity worldwide since 2004.
trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=/m/06ys2,/m/01d5g

No one is more well known than Batman or Superman. All the MCU hype in the world or bad movie reviews won't erode their popularity

Well, yeah.

Love them or hate them, Feige made sure Marvel movies were paced out to make sure people got a chance to know and love the characters while being at least mildly entertaining. DC rushed their cinematic universe and made themselves look silly.

You mean we live in a world where Aquaman is far more well-known than all marvel characters except for Black Panther ans maybe Spiderman?

People don't care for Marvel characters, they only care about Chris Evans, Thor Evans and Robert Downey because of their charisma.

Nobody wears Iron Man merch or kids asking for toys anymore

>they only care about Chris Evans, Thor
Actually, they don't. Almost all their movies outside of MCU are flops.
People are watching these because of mouse.

>Actually, they don't. Almost all their movies outside of MCU are flops.
What?

This. Evans and Hemsworth barely have what you would call a career outside of the MCU, and not for lack of effort.
People watch Downey's Sherlock Holmes because the MCU has made him huge.

Good, the X-Men had their time. Everyone else, except the FF is debatable.

He's not wrong.

Whereas Marvel actors seem to have little success outside of the MCU DC actors use it as a stepping stone to bigger and better projects

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Before or after

This, loved them in the 90s and early 00s, but they can fuck off for a second to give other characters the spotlight.

Kys moviecasual

I think characters like Superman and Batman continue to be the most well-known. They've got some iconic visuals that people identify even if they don't happen to read comics.
But judging by box office records, even if people recognise them doesn't necessarily seem to mean that they're interested in seeing their movies.

As long as we're talking about how Marvel's managed to make something big out of their lesser-known heroes, I find it amusing how badly dated this strip from 2008 has become.

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Delusional as fuck. Keep going Tommy

>doc strange
>not cool
Shit taste

To be honest, movies of all these characters were almost flops and people only seen them because it's part of MCU.

Fuck off Tommy.

Same with Marvel and Spider-Man dumbass

I think we've got a new contender for "wrongest man alive".

The first one you quoted was mine, not Tommy. Fuck Tommy.

Best timeline. Finally Stan Jack and Steve have completed their mission: destroy dc. Their deaths were a necessary asset

"wrongest man alive" was retard who promised to eat blu-ray if Aquaman reach billion dollars.

DC's famous characters are only bat and supes

Huh, I mean. I knew. But I never actually realized.

Shit.

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And Flash, Aquaman, and Wonder Woman. Maybe green lantern

The sad delusional state of DC retards

None of them were flops though

I’m not wrong though

>Fantastic Four, and X-Men
Disney just bought Fox. Who the fuck do you think is next in the MCU after the Avengers arc? It's why they tested out PG-13 Deadpool with Deadpool all the way.

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Soar from Brute Force.

Chad James Cameron

>WW
Maybe. Aquaman is famous still as a joke. Nobody gives a fuck about flash and GL

It's the very nature of the comic industry.
Since both companies have labyrinthian never ending settings with characters that don't end and are constantly rewritten the movies will never be a good gateway to the comics since they're unrelated.
I mean, let's say you like that WW movie, good for you, but does that mean you can go read the WW comic and find anything even vaguely similar to what you liked in the movie?
Nope, it's the same way for all the other movies, they're basically entirely unrelated to the comics.

>We live in a world where Captain Marvel is more wel l- known than Superman and Batman.
Dumb frogposter.

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I think its just that people in general dont give a shit about comics and just want to watch as things happen on a screen and are into capeshit due to them being something new to the non readers.

Did he do it?

Most popular heroes among today's youth:

>Black Panther (#1)
>Captain Marvel
>Black Widow
>Iron Man
>Hulk
>Thor
>Miles Morales
>GOTG

Heroes nobody cares about among the youth:
>Superman
>X-Men
>Fantastic Four
>That "other" Captain Marvel
>Green Lantern
>Punisher

Heroes there is some sort of still awareness of, but mostly indifference
>Batman
>Peter Parker
>Wonder Woman
>Flash
>Teen Titans

Based RDJ

>copypasta

Yea Forums DOESN'T

READ

COMICS

Good luck getting them made.

No, we don't, you memeing faggot.
They're not more well known.
Just more well liked

>DC is too old
Broke

Zack didn’t direct Wonder Woman either

Merger finalized soon.

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> rdj
career was already being un-justed with kiss kiss, bang bang, iron man obviously took him to a whole higher level
> the chris'
evans already successful, hemsworth/pratt became huge because of it
> ruffalo, scajo, renner, cheadle, cumberbatch, brolin, zoe, holland
already successful before and after
> bettany
good relationship with marvel, led to solo (which sucked but still huge profile movie and pay)
> liz olsen
was doing indie stuff before, still doing the wanda show
> bautista
completely taken to another level after gotg; bond, blade runner, dune, absolutely fucking based. the real kino wrestling actor
> mackie, stan
both getting good work as leads. stan probably going to be the new cap