Is there any fascist superhero/protagonist?

Black Panter at some point, then Marvel was Marvel again

Batman

Almost all heroes are Fascist power fantasies on some level. Superman exemplifies this more than anyone.

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Iron Man & Doctor Doom. Unironically.

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Imagine being a Pavlovian reactionary.

Jesus, read a book nigga. Nazism is an aberration amongst 1920s-30s fascist movements.

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No. Unless you count the heroes of Classical myth, who fascists love.

Even outside of Nazism, fascism is an abominable failure of a societal system. You would not want to live in Mussolini's Italy.

It does come from a similar place.
The idea that it would take a strong man who stands outside the law to do the right thing where democracy fails is shared between them.
As such, a hero does need a bit of that ethos, if not as a held belief at least as a motif of his actions.
Which is why heroes need to interact and cooperate with law enforcement, agencies etc. now.
To remove them from some extralegal revenge fantasy and seeds of fascism.
And then there is the whole aesthetic of superhuman physique, a new better human.
Naturally this does not apply to all of them equally, nor does it make them full fascists by any means.
Batman is thematically much closer than a Ms. Marvel, just by virtue of motivation and methodology.
Batman is more of the man outside the law. The one who gets the job done where the state is not effective.
Ms. Marvel is concerned with helping and defending her community, acting publicly to organise efforts and trying to help others rather than punish evildoers.
Their behavior shows vastly different understanding of the state, civil society, crime and so forth stemming from the values of the era when they were created.

>Classical fascism is about ending class struggle with a state that has absolute authority over everything
>Nazism is about creating an ethnostate to unite everyone racially via authoritarian control over culture and rights based on race
Clearly they’re the same thing

You wanna give an example of a successful, not-wildly-evil or insanely corrupt fascist state?

Kuvira saved the Earth Kingdom from total anarchy and poverty

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>You would not want to live in Mussolini's Italy.
Not sure I'd want to live in any Italy, honestly.

Superheroes ARE fascists by definition

t. liberal revisionist cuck

Something like that.

That goes down to Wertham actually

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All superheroes are fascists to a degree due to the idea of concentrated extraordinary power being used outside of due process.

Duterte's Philipines, Franquist Spain and the Chilean junta all had Fascist traits. Fascism tends to be a transitional system more than an establishment one, it works as a stabilization and consolidation process for states.

Fuck off tommy

>Duterte's Philipines

You mean a country where people are being regularly gunned down in the street for suspicion of crimes? That's pretty fucking evil.

we shoot druggies because dont have blacks to shoot at

>You mean a country where people are being regularly gunned down in the street for suspicion of crimes?

The one where a lot of them ARE criminals, communist and islamic rebels and the wanton violwnce has proved effective at combating them, yes.

>The country has a drug problem what do we do!
>That's easy! We just need to bring in roving gangs of armed men with zero accountablity. Problem solved!
>But what do we do if the roving gangs of armed men shoot innoce-
>PROMBLEM SOLVED

>Dueteres Philippines
>not insanely corrupt and evil

Fuck outta here retard

Consider yourself lucky.

Hello reddo

soviets aren't fascists

Pic related, as well as Doctor Doom

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You want to give an example as to why that's relevant to the topic? Imagine being such a douche that when someone asks if there are a particular type of fictional characters that ascribe to an ideology you have to go on a rant explaining why it would suck to live in a society like that.

>nobody's mentioned any of the casualgate characters
They literally side with neo-Nazis, ffs

Rorschach

Don't forget that Duerte literally says he actively uses drugs.

Look up the bootleg Spanish Batman comics released under Franco: Robin y El Murciélago

yeah but nobody is retarded enough to read that casualgate crap.

>Almost all heroes are Fascist power fantasies on some level. Superman exemplifies this more than anyone.

superman started out as either a progressive or flat out socialist.

>our symbol is a literal faggot
Those guys sure didn't see the power of language

What else do you suggest?

This.
Fucking moron

Most other possible approaches

Shit, even roving gangs of armed men WITH accountability would be an improvement

Is their logo a literal faggot?

>wanton violwnce has proved effective at combating them, yes.

Because after all, crime rates drop to zero when there's no one alive to commit them

FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT

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Yes, the word fascism literally has the same root word as faggot.
> The Italian term fascismo is derived from fascio meaning a bundle of rods, ultimately from the Latin word fasces. This was the name given to political organizations in Italy known as fasci, groups similar to guilds or syndicates.

Well if you know portuguese...

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Miller's Batman

I'm responding to someone who specifically said that Nazism was an anomaly when it comes to fascist states, implying that most fascist nations are morally upstanding, successful countries. I have no problem with the idea of fascist superheroes being used to explore the ideology in fiction (I think there are some good examples in Injustice and Justice Lords Superman, Watchmen's Rorschach, and other intentional deconstructions), but anyone who thinks that fascism isn't a destructive ideology is seriously misguided.

Other people were already chiming in with suggestions relevant to OP, I was talking specifically to the guy I quoted.

The Fasces was a symbol of Roman power. Naturally the Fascist party in Italy took it as their symbol.

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How much do you know about the Phillipines before Duterte, exactly? Do you know why that guy ended up voted president to becin with?

Fasces are an ancient Italian(predates Romans themselves) symbols for power, the idea is that all sticks are cut by the same hatchet and yes, the bundle is stronger together than the twig.

MALDITOS COMUNISTAS!

Him in action

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They aren't. They're worse.

>automatically describes vivid sexual abuse
lmao what the fuck happened with you

>Judge Death likes to samefag
Does his evil know no bounds?

The Francoist regime ascended to power through oppression, imprisonment, and outright execution of dissenters (which included people with just generally liberal views like being pro-women's rights or pro-regional autonomy). Even if we ignore the circumstances that the fascists used to acquire power, during the Reign itself they suppressed dissent through curbing assembly of non-state-sponsored organizations like unions or political parties. That's pretty explicitly a violation of basic human rights, though I agree it's nice they didn't put people in death camps. Everything's relative I guess.

As for Duterte, other anons have pointed this out, but if your administration makes extrajudicial murder of alleged criminals without even a semblance of due process, ya done fucked up. That's basically the perfect example of why fascism is an inherently destructive ideology, in fact. Can't speak to the efficacy of the Chilean junta, but I'd say the track record points to "Shit is unbelievably fucked if you don't toe the party line exactly" which is, yknow, the whole reason people think it's bad.

>real fascism hasn’t been tried before

They both have socialism as their core component, and fail utterly because of it.

He literally describes himself as a “Futurist”, and Futurism is interconnected with Fascim. Plus there’s his time as Director of SHIELD. Doom, Adam and the like are Dictators, but haven’t been named as Fascists specifically; they’re old-times Kings with sort of Neo-Liberal policies. Stark is legitimately a Fascist though; no question.

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Isn't that every super hero?

Futurism was an art movement, it had nothing to do with technology. When Stark calls himself a "Futurists" hes not talking about some obscure art movement from the 20th century.

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user, please, at least read the Wikipedia page before you post.

Italy actively employed futurist exhibits to propagate the progression of war tech, even going as far to claim that efficient killing and conquest is beautiful.

There were futurists who didn't do this. some just banged on electric pianos, but Italian fascism definitely utilized the futurist movement to their ends.

No, she just has daddy issues.

Stark ain’t a painter though. So...