Captain Marvel

Good Goy, write a nice review and you'll get your shekels...

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You made this exact thread a day or two ago with half of this missing. Does Disney pay you well to shill this? It's already tanking you know.

t. Disney employee

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THIS MOVIE IS GOOD. IF YOU DISAGREE YOU ARE A SHILL. I can't believe Yea Forums falls for this bait. This movie is awful.

It's because it's literally a scene from Endgame. They've been doing this since Ant-Man

>I have liked all of the MCU movies except Civil War
opinion discarded

>I have liked all of the MCU movies except Civil War
>The rumors you heard about how Tony lost his eye are true.
Fuck off

>You made this exact thread a day or two ago
No, I didn't. I just typed that out. come on prove wrong, you could easily find it in an archive board if that were true.

Civil War is fucking Shit and is about a bunch of moron who made stupid decision because they were too angry at each other to actually listen to common sense. Drama has no value when it's forced Drama. Also, winter Soldier meant who killed Tony's parent was fucking out. And it was the fucking Russo who made winter Soldier, they have zero fucking excuse. Civil War is shit and I hold by it.

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>>The rumors you heard about how Tony lost his eye are true.
>Fuck off
My bad, I meant Fury. sorry.

hey, we get it. you're a really sad person, user.

This user, is not even me.

You must be retarded if you think Civil War is worse than fucking Iron Fist and Age of Ultron, even if it's mediocre at best

>seeing CM

I hope some feminist kicks you in your worthless balls, because that's what you seem to like you cuck.

Yeah, like creating threads with blog posts reviews even a thing on Yea Forums.

I just can't get over the Skrulls being good in this movie. It feels wrong that they're not invading Earth.

Fuck Krees!
Skrulls were good guys before the Kree-savages stole their technology and started a war because "buhu the mean green men did not choose us".
It's the Krees fault the Skrull went full Islamic State after that.

Are in this movie at least some female Skrulls?
I want to know it for.... reasons.

>I have liked all of the MCU movies except Civil War
oh so I shouldn't care about your opinion

Talos has a wife and kid.

>Thanos wasn't enough of an emergency to begin with
>Neither was anything that GotG faced
I don't like wishing failure upon a movie but this is fucking retarded. It would have been better to make up some dumb sci-fi reason why she couldn't have possibly been there before now.

They're trying to push this character in an incredibly obvious manner like Poochie. From the marketing to the reveals to even the way they're tying her into the rest of the MCU. It would have been better to just make this a standalone movie and not even reference the others, in this instance. Maybe tie it all back in a few months later for endgame.

Iron Fist is okay, and Age of Ultron is Yes, Good. Age of Ultron is good and coherent, Civil War is stupid and incoherent. The hate for Age of Ultron is unwarranted for.

>Still I consider Brie Larson did a good job and give live to her character.
Please explain what was so amazing about her "I'm perpetually constipated" pouty glance during most of the movie?

The fact that you liked Jessica Jones and Iron Fist makes your opinions invalid for me.

How is she in it?

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You know people on Yea Forums telling what they think about stuff is the whole point of it, right ?

100% better than "I just saw X, what is Yea Forums opinion of it ?" which is a coward post where OP doesn't even dare to say his own opinion so he can sleeplessly follow the majority. But somehow, you seem to think that is how things are supposed to be.

Jobber

here it goes again another fucking shill thread. How many hundreds of shills are on disney payroll I wonder?

She is okay.

She doesn't have it, as far as I can tell.
>here it goes again another fucking shill thread
People disagreeing with you doens't mean they are shill.

I just watched the movie too, and I do think it's pretty good for a stand alone movie, it doesn't have as much comedy compared to the previous standalone movies, which might be a plus to some.

Some complaints though, so big spoilers ahead:
Carol was way too powerful in the movie, the movie tried to trick you by making you think that she couldn't control her power because she's too "emotional", but it turns out it's just because the chip on her neck is a power inhibitor, after it's off she absolutely wrecks everything in her path without a sweat, no one could injure her, and her power seems limitless/never runs out. It makes her fight at the final act of the movie have no tension whatsoever.
Since Carol is so overpowered, the rest of the side cast doesn't get to do much, Fury pretty much is just there as the "reaction guy" to all the crazy space stuff he's seeing for the first time. He didn't even do anything important other than drive Carol around when they're still on Earth, and he lost his eye because the cat playfully scratched it.
Ronan uncharacteristically just calmly retreated after seeing Carol destroy half his fleet when he came to Earth. Before he left he said would hunt her down, but obviously he never did.
The final fight tried to mirror the opening of the movie (Carol getting her ass kicked in hand to hand combat and was told to master fighting without resorting to using her "unstable" powers), which I think would be cool but Carol just blast the guy then says she doesn't need to prove she's better than him.

It's not good. And the fact that you write like this screams that you're a shill.

>spoilering capeshit
never worth it

>P-please watch my movie
>it's good I swear
>i have been working really hard you guyz

Please tell me more nice things shill-kun

>the movie tried to trick you by making you think that she couldn't control her power because she's too "emotional", but it turns out it's just because the chip on her neck is a power inhibitor,
The movie make it clear from the start it is a power inhibitor, they clearly say it's there to prevent her from using her full power. I actually like the clash of the titans level of action at the end, IMO.

>Since Carol is so overpowered, the rest of the side cast doesn't get to do much, Fury pretty much is just there as the "reaction guy" to all the crazy space stuff he's seeing for the first time. e didn't even do anything important other than drive Carol around when they're still on Earth, and he lost his eye because the cat playfully scratched it.
Furry is literally the one who save the refugees and secure the Tesseract while carol is mostly there to serve a a distraction, so you are wrong about that. I get the power level of Carol is less of an issue for me because I like Super man stories, though.
>but Carol just blast the guy then says she doesn't need to prove she's better than him.
I actually like that conclusion, she isn't falling for an obvious taunt.

The inhibitor chip...gone!

Isit so hard to you that someone dsagreeing with you might actually have an opinoon of their own. If you don't like it, at least have the gut to say why.

I guess people go to see MCU movies expecting not to see super hero movies.

NO ONE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO ENJOY THIS MOVIE.
ANY PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY ENJOY IT ARE ALL SHILLS.
IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE UNLESS YOU ARE A FEOTING SJW LEFTIST OR A LITERAL KEK.

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Honestly. That movie has basically none of that "in your face" feminism people complained it was going to have.

>"Boy I wonder how Nick Fury lost his eye"
>A fucking Kraken-mouthed cat scratched it
I hate that fucking cat. Honestly the dumbest addition to the MCU.
The first two-thirds of the movie was great but it went to shit in the third act.

What I find interesting is that he still decided to keep it afterwards.

If it wasn't for the end credit, I would feel confortable watching ant and the Wasp and Captain Marvel before Infinity War, so End game could be followed right after.

>If you like Super Hero movie, you will like this one
Well that's me out. Other than Leslie Nielsen I really didn't care much for that movie

>before Infinity War,
what happened in the end credit of Captain Marvel?

>Other than Leslie Nielsen
What ?

How was Ben Mendelsohn?

What I really want to know is, does this movie make Carol Danvers into the household name that Marvel has wanted her to be for the last ten years or so? They've been pushing her so, so hard in the comics, and it hasn't worked because the writers and editors that do the actual paper comics at Marvel are terrible at their jobs- it was pretty much always going to come down to the MCU to actually get the job done. So does it do it? Does it do the impossible and make Captain Marvel into a character I could actually like and care about?

For reference, I don't have a dog in the whole culture wars fight that Yea Forums is frothing at the mouth about, and the only preconceived notions I have of Carol as a character are that I don't really know all that much about her- the clearest idea I had in my head of who she was pretty much boiled down to "that one b-list superhero who Rogue held onto too long, and that's why Rogue can fly and has super strength".

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>mid credit scen is a tie-in to End Game and really feel shoe-horned like the Ragnarock tie In in Dr. Strange.

End Credit is the Tessract landing back on Fury's desk. Marr-vell had taken it away for her experiment and Nick had got an indirect way to get it back and it finally got resituted at the end credit.

Fuck you shill. We all know it does. Stop trying to fool us into watching your sjw cuckfest. We aren't falling for it tumblr.

Quite good, actually, but you only see him as an impersonating Skrull (you obviously guess what is hiding behind that spoiler). But he has a nice presence.

A bit disappointing, I was hoping for something more "oh Shit! " like in Antman and Wasp.

It shows a short scene from End Game (just like how Winter Soldier end credits showed a scene from Civil War).
It starts with Cap staring at a screen showing the numbers calculating the remaining human survivors on Earth, Rhodey calls Cap to show that Fury's pager that he used to call Captain Marvel finally turned off, Black Widow wondered if it was broken since they have been hooking it up to a power supply to keep the pager on, but just as she turns around Captain Marvel is standing behind her and asks "Where's Fury?", then the screen fades to black and teases that "Captain Marvel will return in Avengers: End Game™"

>What I really want to know is, does this movie make Carol Danvers into the household name that Marvel has wanted her to be for the last ten years or so?
I haven't read her comic, but the movie made me enjoy the character. She is clearly a power house, that much is established. Now rest to see if Marvel can handle such a powerful character.

>but, and the only preconceived notions I have of Carol as a character are that I don't really know all that much about her
It's basically an origin Story, so yes. And it does a good job establishing her pathoses. Though I actually like origin story. For those who do less, they might enjoy it less.

thanks.

>Fuck you shill. We all know it does.
It really doesn't. even people who get triggered the moment a black person is shown holding the hand of a white person will have to force themselves hard to find "Muh feminism" in that movie. I actually suspect the reason it's getting mixed review is because it's not pushing the feminist agenda as the reviewers experted it to be.

That's the mid-credit.>just like how Winter Soldier end credits showed a scene from Civil War
Actually, that was Ant-man that showed a scene of Civil Wars. Winter Soldier showeed Bucky in the museum and the end credit teased for Age of Ultron, but didn't actually used scene from Age of Ultron.

Using direct footage of the next movie started with Dr. strange.

Oh I promise you I will find the feminism in it to get angry over. It's practically my last reason for living. Ima go spend my money to watch this movie so I can go online and complain about the overt girl power and feminists themes.

I think this post here might be a joke post, but I am not sure.

It feels like people will care about her as much as Black Widow or Scarlet Witch, so probably not at all.
She'll probably go back to space after End Game, so she might replace GOTG on the wacky space adventures part of MCU since Disney killed GOTG, but we'll see after End Game comes out, I guess.

The movie is decent enough that she will probably be remembered. But its not really an inspiring movie for women. Its also not that feminist so the SJW's will go away once they find another movie to shill. It'll probably be relegated as a B or C-tier Marvel movie once the shitposting dies.

Whoops, guess I remembered the wrong movie's end credits.

I personally think, they should have introduced her first in Endgame, and then in a solo film . Marvel is pushing her like some kind of Poochie.

That would have made her come out of nowhere. Hawkeye and BW suffered less from it because they are humans and don't need big introduction, but someone with such a power need to be established first.

Lets be honest here, the main appeal of Carol is that she keeps being complete failure both in and out of universe no matter how much clit sucking the authors try to give her and this movie being the first Marvel movie to flop would be 100% in character for her.

They could have worked a shorter version of her origin into the main plot like they did with Black Panther's first appearance.

did you enjoy some fresh popcorn and soda too user?
did you get a free refill™?

>They could have worked a shorter version of her origin into the main plot
Like this movieisn't going to be long enough already.

It's not useless to remind people that the gimmick of Avengers is to gather already established heroes in their own series.

I know it get to be called Avenger 2.5, But Civil wars is still a Captain America movie and Black Panther still got to have his own movie before his first appearance in Avengers.

Even black Widow and Hawkeye got established before getting into avengers.

Nah, din't took a drink, just got some B&J cookie dough ice cream(not enough cookie dough).

Ah, the pay isn't amazing but for the work (or lack thereof) shilling simply can't be beat. Now THAT'S a comfy form of income.

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>not liking Superhero Movie
youtube.com/watch?v=fIqFcOT1aZU

It must be comfortable, living a live where no one ever challenge your view and anyone who does is insincere and secretly think you are right anyway.

Oh, about pic, they actually had a very nice homage to Stan Lee, at the beginning of the movie.

>I don't know much about the comic Kree and Skrull, so I don't know how respectful they are of the source material, but I liked what they did with it.
Well, no shit you liked it. When you know nothing about the source material you're gonna stick to whatever retarded shit you saw on the big screen. And this is exactly why you liked all of the MemeCU movies. Same reason normies like them so much. Your opinion on this subject is irrelevant.

It's a shit movie. Most MCU movie are bad, but this is one of the worst. Sorry fag, but you have terrible taste. And I'm not gonna support Brie Larson and her inflated ego, or Disney's stranglehold on the movie industry.

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>When you know nothing about the source material you're gonna stick to whatever retarded shit you saw on the big screen.
That is not how appreciating the quality of something or lack thereof works, user.

>And this is exactly why you liked all of the MemeCU movies
I didn't like all of them.

You're insincere. And I mean that. You didn't look forward to this movie because you thought it was going to be good. It's just a MCU Disney product, even one of the worst ones. So you ate it up like the drone you are because you're entirely happy with just acceptable even if it tastes the same everytime you eat it.

>You're insincere.
wrong.
>You didn't look forward to this movie because you thought it was going to be good.
How about watching a movie first and then deciding whether or not it is good ? Bold concept, I know.

Is there a Stan Lee cameo? What happens?

Yes, he is one of the person she look at in the tram, when she is looking for Skrulls. (she doesn't punch him)

I've seen just about every Marvel movie there is. Most of them are not that great, and I could tell from the trailers this was not going to be good especially by the CW tv show production value in a lot of the scenes shown. Brie Larson is not a likeable person or a good actress so there's no way I'd like Captain Marvel seeing as she's also not a good comic book character either. I'm not going to give Disney my money just to be able to tear the movie down for you. I'll wait till I can stream it to do that.

Disney is a shitty, by the books corporation, and I'd even say evil. Yes, they're fucking evil. Seeing this movie is not worth my time, or the money.

Also none of the reviews are positive either. Which is really telling since they were all going to have a bias for it to begin with.

>I've seen just about every Marvel movie there is. Most of them are not that great
Wrong. There is only one bad MCU movie.
>and I could tell from the trailers this was not going to be good especially by the CW tv show production value in a lot of the scenes shown
>Judging a movie by its trailer
ISHYDDTAH
>Brie Larson is not a likeable person or a good actress
She honestly do a good job in it.

> I'm not going to give Disney my money just to be able to tear the movie down for you.
Sure do what you ant, but there is no need to call dishonest people who might disagree with your prediction just so you can keep being comfortable in your own view of the world.

It's more of a mixed bag. Like I have said, I think they expected it to be super feminisit and were disappointed.

>Also none of the reviews are positive either.
>none
Over 141 reviews Rotten Tomatoes has a 84% fresh rating, so that part at least is factually wrong.

We're on a road to nowhere come on inside.

Is rather carol wear that mask

>Wrong. There is only one bad MCU movie.
Most of them are bad
>judging a movie by its trailer
That's the purpose of a trailer, yes. Also the reviews, And if the stuff they choose to try and get you excited to see the movie is bad, like are in the trailers, then it's pretty safe to assume that most everything in the movie is on par if not worse. and it doesn't help that you posted ISHYDDTAH, which is a pretty insincere response.
>She honestly do a good job in it.
I've seen a lot of stuff she's been in, and outside of Scott Pilgrim she's not been a good actress. Didn't like her in the trailers. Don't like her as a person. None of the reviews have been kind to her playing as Captain Marvel.

>It's more of a mixed bag. Like I have said, I think they expected it to be super feminisit and were disappointed.
None of them are saying they think it's not feminist. I've been hearing them saying they're sad the movie is bad, and they don't want to give the "incels" any leeway by admitting that. And yeah, most of the reviews are pretty bad. A mixed bag, is bad.

The meme is that all the reviews are actually negative and that if you "read between the lines" they're all forcing themselves not to call the movie shit, cuz disney death squads or some shit

Some of the "fresh" reviews are in the 50s. Most of the review scores are in the 60s. Since most of them are the bear minimum for getting a fresh score, that means it's 84 percent fresh. But all it takes is a moment to read the reviews to know it's not a well reviewed movie.

Barely

see Most of the reviews are poor. And those are the ones Disney handpicked.

>Most of them are bad
wrong. they go from okay to good.
>That's the purpose of a trailer, yes
No, it's purpose is to make ticket sell, it is not the most reliable way to judge a movie.
>Also the reviews
Most of them are positive.
>I've seen a lot of stuff she's been in, and outside of Scott Pilgrim she's not been a good actress.
She was good in CM, IMO.
> And yeah, most of the reviews are pretty bad. A mixed bag, is bad.
Factually wrong.
>the good reviews are actually saying it's bad because I say so
Not how it works, user.

MC scores are always lower, they work differently. On average most cape movies don't even get to the 80s. This 66 you mention puts CM on par with movies like Cap America or Deadpool 2 on Metacritic, or even better than classics like Xmen (sitting at 64)

So its another mary sue story where the woman is just oh so powerful, the males can only watch in awe? Good to know, im not watching it.

I wasn't agreeing with them, just explaining the shitpost argument

Jesus Man, you're shilling really hard. a 56 out of a hundred is not a good score, and yet that's apparently worth a fresh rating. Most reviews give the movie a D. It's lower than average.

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>has a 84% fresh rating,
Hey retard. That means 84% of the people thought it was "okay" or better. The average rating, the one you should actually pay attention to, is 6.93/10 which lines up with

there is not shitpost argument. Because the movie is bad, and I honestly think that you might be to emotionally invested in the movie to see it for the truth.

>you're shilling
I see you still can't wrap your mind around the fact people might actually disagree with you. don't worry, I am sure at some point, you'll be able to figure that out.
>a 56 out of a hundred is not a good score, and yet that's apparently worth a fresh rating. Most reviews give the movie a D. It's lower than average.
See

I'm not emotionally invested in anything, I'm simply used to this "every review is lying or bought off" tango that we dance so damn often

>thought it was "okay" or better
Which is all I ask from a Super Hero movie. I don't go see cape-movie expecting masterpiece, I go there expecting a good time, which I have.

Yeah, I'm sure it's okay too. I just wanted to point out how RT works because most people don't know how RT works since they see the big % number and just go with that.

>Because the movie is bad
He say while not having seen it.

If you want to shit-talk about it, at least take the effort to pirate it, before making all-made up opinions because Kevin Feige touched your peepee at night.

Okay. But my initial point was that saying "most review say it's bad" simply does not hold.

Why isn't Carol around on earth for everything else? what post credits? any avengers end game tie in shit?

Most reviews don't say it's bad but most reviews don't say it's particularly great either. It's just okay and it's doing around Ant-Man/Doctor Strange numbers in terms of percentage and average.

Your post really doesn't lend itself to any intelligence or actual argument. I'll just take that to mean you concede and can't argue on anything other than on a emotional level now.
you can still like something even if it's bad. Some people like Sonic 06 after all. Some people like Suicide Square. Those people are a minority but hey. But if your'e trying to argue that they're good because you personally want the movie to succeed, then you're shilling.
Well since even you concede that it's not a good movie, then there's no real debate to be had here. All the enjoyement I could have had has been spent by the countless movies before this one. I don't care any more. Sounds more like you think it's meh, but meh is good enough for you and you turned your brain off.

>Why isn't she around on earth?
Kidnapped by Kree after a crash, lost memory because of it. Get back to earth after Skulls look in her mind and seek to retrieve something on earth that was hidden in her memory
The reason she doesn't stick to earht afterward is because she decide she is going touse her power to put an end to the war. I guess, by the time of Guardian of the Galaxy, she has succeeded as it is part of the plot point that the Kree have finally signed a peace treaty with Xandar. But I guess ending a space empire war take time.
>what post credits? >any avengers end game tie in shit?
at mid-credit, a shoe horned tie in to End Game, should have been done better and at post credit, The tesseract, who had been missing, getting back on Nick Furry's desk.

No, a score below 70 is not saying it's okay. A score of below 70 means it's below average. It's a D. A D is not a good score. Stop trying to argue that it is.

That's how MCU movies generally work, user. IW, Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, and Winter Soldier for example have a MC score of 68, 64, 72, and 70 respectively. Nobody except for the fanboys thinks MCU movies are genuinely great.

It is though. It's below average. None of the "positive" reviews have much good to say about it either. And considering this is a Marvel Disney movie, that's bad. It's one of the worst reviewed Marvel movies ever.

It's simple argument, don't call something bad without actually seeing it for yourself. anyone witha a working mind understand the ogic of that statement.
>you can still like something even if it's bad
Beside the point,t hat still doesn't mean that what I enjoyed is actually bad.
>Some people like Sonic 06
Nope, they don't.
>Well since even you concede that it's not a good movie,
I didn't. You are aware that "good" fall within "okay or better", right ? Learn to read a bit better.

Yeah, but the difference is that most of the reviews wanted the movie to succeed, so they were always gonna give it a bump in terms of scoring. Cause there's some dumb culture war. Wait for the audience review scores to come out to really see how it is.

>It is though.
Factually wrong.
>It's below average
see For an MCU movie, it's actually above.

>but the difference is that most of the reviews wanted the movie to succeed
>I am going to make up thing so I can keep justifying they consider it bad
Not how it works, user.

Yeah but Ant-Man has that similar number and I loved Ant-Man so

>but the difference is that most of the reviews wanted the movie to succeed,
>so they were always gonna give it a bump in terms of scoring
Considering how this is keeping pace with the majority of MCU movies that were average, I don't think that's true at all.

Read the thread. By that standards you're calling the original X-men a subpar movie

>It's simple argument, don't call something bad without actually seeing it for yourself. anyone witha a working mind understand the ogic of that statement.
Only works if you don't have to pay out your own wallet to see it, or if you have a means of seeing it for free. I'm not gonna give a shitty evil company movie or add to the numbers for Brie Larson's ego.
>Beside the point,t hat still doesn't mean that what I enjoyed is actually bad.
Except for that fact that it is bad, but you just happen to enjoy it.
>Nope, they don't.
I know several youtubers who unironically do I can actually link you to that do.
>I didn't. You are aware that "good" fall within "okay or better", right ? Learn to read a bit better.
If the scores are below average, then that means it's worse than middling. If it's worse than middling, then that means it's not good.

Super Hero movie always get lower score.

You mean the same "audience" scores that insisted it was the worst movie in years even before the release? The IMDB score will probably be fair due to the sheer amount of people voting there, but the RT score is going to be a shitshow.
Also, you have no evidence for the claim that most reviewers were particularly invested in this capeshit flick.

Well, imagine 100 threads about how Captain Marvel sucks instead of one, and maybe you will understand why things supposed to be this way.

The movie is just average. You can take that as good or bad depending on your bias. It didn't change my opinion of Captain Marvel (a B-list heroine they're trying to make relevant) and it probably won't change yours if you already hate it.

>factually wrong
Factually correct
There's no argument against
And I don't think the audience reviews will be kind either.
Literally look through the reviews. You'll find several people saying they really wanted to the movie to be "good" so that the "incels" could be btfo. A lot of people are saying the movie is on par with Ghostbusters 2016
Well now that we're on the topic, X-men really isn't that great of a movie. And also neither was Ant-man.

>Only works if you don't have to pay out your own wallet to see it
Guess you missed the >If you want to shit-talk about it, at least take the effort to pirate it, before making all-made up
> take the effort to pirate it
You should really learn to read better.
>Except for that fact that it is bad
Taking the thesis as part of the hypothesis is not ever a good way to make your point.
>If the scores are below average
Which, again, they aren't. see

When that happens, mods impose a general. And it's still better than "what is your opinion on..." threads, which is the bane of Yea Forums

No, they don't.
There were no audience scores. That was a percentage asking people if they wanted to see the movie, and a lot of them said no, they didn't. That's different from an actual rating. Next time, be more informed.

I know you shills don't like when people have opinions, but don't bring this shit here, k?

>You should really learn to read better.
gotta wait for a quality rip.
>Taking the thesis as part of the hypothesis is not ever a good way to make your point.
So either I give Disney my money so I can see a mediocre movie, or I can't judge the movie at all based on everything I've seen and heard.
Sorry, but maybe you should stop talking. It's embarrassing.

>Factually correct
seeeasily argued, there.
>Literally look through the reviews.
The reviews are overal good.
That has been vlearly established. Metacritic put it on the same level than other good Super Hero movie. the only reason to not like it is if you don't like super hero comics.
>Well now that we're on the topic, X-men really isn't that great of a movie. And also neither was Ant-man.
Just simply say you don't like super hero movie and be done with it.

>A lot of people are saying the movie is on par with Ghostbusters 2016
I'm curious about how much this is actually true. I'm assuming you're actually referring to that one woman that tweeted "we got ghostbuste'd ya'll"

Yes, they do, it was just shown to you.
>I know you shills don't like when people have opinions
So far when people here don't like Opinion, they are not shills but call other shills.

So you have no arguments and start to throw tantrums. How typical. If people can't talk about movie before it's premiere, than advertising must be illegal.

>or I can't judge the movie at all based on everything I've seen and heard.
Exactly. You haven't seen it, fdon't judge it.

> So far when people here don't like Opinion, they are not shills but call other shills.
You mean Opinion nobody asked for? Yeah, it is logical.

>So you have no arguments and start to throw tantrums.
I have provided plenty of good argument. user made claim without actually having seen the actual content, then try to use review trying to make them say the opposite of what they have said.
> If people can't talk about movie before it's premiere, than advertising must be illegal.
People can talk. make prediction, but saying "I know this thing I haven't seen is bad for a fact and you disagreeing with me it means you are a shill" is the epitome of stupidity. especially when he try to use review to make them say the opposite of what they are actually saying.

so the people who watched and are complaining wanted a wonder woman 2.0 and they are pissed because they dint get it?

WE WON AGAIN,DCHADS

WE
WON
AGAIN!!

>You mean Opinion nobody asked for?
Oh no ! people on Yea Forums talking about Yea Forums related content ! when will the misery end.

Black Panther got amazing scores. Winter Soldier also got amazing scores.
>The reviews are overal good.
The reviews are overall D. Most Super Hero movies are not good. Not all of them, but most of them.
>Just simply say you don't like super hero movie and be done with it.
Nope, I liked Dark Knight. I liked plenty of Superman movies, and I liked the Raimey SpiderMan movies, and Winter Soldier. Also I liked Hellboy and the first Guardian's of the Galaxy movie.
Let's be honest though. Black Panther is overrated, and a lot of people wanted Captain Marvel to be good because it's the "feminist" icon people wanted from Marvel for a long time. Don't deny it. You know it to be true. If you try to deny it you're only be dishonest with yourself.

Why do you make so many mistakes in your writing? If it was just one time I wouldn't have said anything, but you do it often. I'm actually feeling like I'm arguing with a ten year old, which is actually more embarrassing for me than you.
a shill only has positive things to say, and usually it's about substandard corporate product trash. You're basically a sheep and you're proud of it. Say thank you to your Disney overlords.

> user made claim without actually having seen the actual content
It is absolutely fine and natural for thinking human been which has information on the topic.
> is the epitome of stupidity
I don't see how. People make accurate predictions every day. Wanting to silence them is a textbook definition of the shill.

>all the lukewarm to bad reviews say that Carol is boring and unexpressive, lacking in charisma or charm
>the exact complaint people had about the first trailer that got written off and spun as EVIL INCEL MANBABIES TELL WOMAN TO SMILE, THE WORST THING POSSIBLE

wtf

> people on Yea Forums talking about Yea Forums related content !
Yes, as long as some shill don't make a blog post instead of thread.

>Black Panther got amazing scores. Winter Soldier also got amazing scores.
I say it was a good movie, not great. also, you don't know how middling work. being above or below middling doesn't determine if something is good or bad. the middling of something can be at a good, neutral or bad level itself. like the quality of cookies in a factory. if the middling is at a good level, anything close to it even if a bit above or bellow, is considered good. Not everything is pertinent to be graded on a curve, you know ?

>The reviews are overall D.
Wrong, the review are overall on the same level as other good super hero movies. I am not aying all super hero movies are good, I am saying CM is a scoring on the same level than other GOOD super hero movies.
> and a lot of people wanted Captain Marvel to be good because it's the "feminist" icon people wanted from Marvel for a long time.
It doesn't matter on whether or not the movie is good. Like I said, it's a good super hero flick with nice action and good character dynamic, it's all it need to be a god movie, feminism or not.

TWS sits exactly at 70, one point less and it'd be again in the trash category according to these standards of yours

>Wrong, the review are overall on the same level as other good super hero movies.
>good super hero movies
>good
If they were good movies, they wouldn't be getting Ds.

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>a shill only has positive things to say
Which wasn't the case here.
>It is absolutely fine and natural for thinking human been which has information on the topic.
Jsut because it's somethign that tend to happens doesn't mean it's justified.
>I don't see how.
Calling shill anyone who disagree with you means you refuse to acknowledge other might think differently than you.

The Top critics score on rotten Tomatoes have it under 70, so it's pretty okay to say that the people who are actually good at reviewing don't like Captain Marvel either.

>Yes, as long as some shill don't make a blog post instead of thread.

Again, telling you opinion on stuff LITERALLY is what you are supposed to do, here. Blogpost banning is about people posting about their personal life. And yes, it is far better than people too sheepish to dare and say their own opinion. and people disagreeing with you doens't means they are shill.

>Which wasn't the case here.
You're pretty much screaming SEE THE MOVIE! SEE THE MOVIE! GIVE DISNEY YOUR MONEY!

Nah, you're a shill.

>If they were good movies, they wouldn't be getting Ds.
Most reviewers don't like super hero moves.

Well most Super Hero movies are not good either.

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>You're pretty much screaming SEE THE MOVIE! SEE THE MOVIE! GIVE DISNEY YOUR MONEY
No, I am not. I am just brining up some reality to you, the review are overall positive, it's an undisputable fact. Calling you out for trying to twist realty as a way to prove the movie is bad is not an advertisement.

>Nah, you're a shill.
Oh no, someone disagreeing with me.

Disagreeing. On MCU alone, most of them rank from okay to great.

That is some 1984 shit right there. Man, reviews for Captain Marvel ALWAYS was positive, long before any screenings.

>No, I am not. I am just brining up some reality to you, the review are overall positive, it's an undisputable fact. Calling you out for trying to twist realty as a way to prove the movie is bad is not an advertisement.
Below 70 is not positive, and you live in a pretty secluded bubble if you think so. You're the one twisting reality here. If I went up to my Dad with a report card accumulating in a 66 percentage overall I don't think his reaction would be to call it positive.

>Oh no, someone disagreeing with me.
You're the one who's trying to suppress me here. I'm just saying the movie is bad, and the review scores reflect that. And the audience review score will probably say that too when they start coming in.

>reviews for Captain Marvel ALWAYS was positive, long before any screenings.
Man, could you at least try ? The reviews only started to come out recently.

>On MCU alone, most of them rank from okay to great.
Most of them are meh, to okay with a few turds.

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Read some books...

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Other might think different, but we are not going to see this sequel for ghostbusters.

Also, it's a 5.6 rating on imdb right now, so....

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>Below 70 is not positive,
Making around the same score of other Good Super Hero movies IS positive. Hell Guardian of the Galaxy 2 is only getting 67, therefore, you can't use a "below 70 means it is bad".
> You're the one twisting reality here
I am only using fact and fair comparison, you are theone trying to set an arbitrary number to determine whether something is good or not.>You're the one who's trying to suppress me here.
>say opinion should be discarded because "shill"
>get called out
>s... stop suppressing me
that's not how it works, user.

>If I went up to my Dad with a report card accumulating in a 66 percentage overall I don't think his reaction would be to call it positive.
... did you just out yourself as underage ? because I can guarantee you that at university, 66 % IS a good score.

>Below 70 is not positive
metacritic.com/movie/aquaman

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Isn't the ranking on imbd user based ? The movie barely just came out.

Well, being a Senior in college currently. If I got a D in every class while here I would be suspended. So, no, it's not

Why are you so stupid?

And also there's the fact that it's currently sitting on its current score before it officially comes out. Time, is not going to be positive to Captain Marvel.

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Why are Carol fags so cringe? Notice how they were shitposting in full force when it looked like Captain Marvel was gonna get a 91 on Rotten tomatoe?

Now all they can do is saying "Sh-shut up! 84 is good! so is 66!"

Like it's full on defensive now. I wonder what they'll do when the audience review scores drop.

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>If I got a D in every class while here I would be suspended. So, no, it's not
Getting 66% mean you succeed.

>Why are you so stupid?
Using a rational approach is not stupid.
>?
Aquaman is a good Super hero movie, therefore your way of evaluating whether or not it is good does not work

66 is below average. If I got a gpa of less than 2.0 I would definitely be suspended from my college.

I had never read any Captain MArvel stories before hand, nor made prediction. And I do actually find Rotten tomatoes and Metacritic a bad way to judge whether or not a movie is good, so I never made prediction. But this user keep using metacritic as a way to "prove" CM is bad, but he can't even do that right.

>66 is below average.
66% means you succeed. It's when you get bellow 60% that you fail, it's as simple as that.

Most if not all the reviews are rather negative, so if maybe you're just a really dumb person.

Was IW also bad and unpopular with audiences and critics? It only got an 85% after all

Maybe if you go to a shit university or a community college.

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Goose steals the show.

OP what country are you from? Your english sounds sort of unnatural.

Even in the comic books, not all heroes intervene in world ending events. You just assume they’re doing something else.

>because they were too angry at each other to actually listen to common sense

That’s why it happened in the comics. The only difference is that The Thunderbolts blew up a school instead of a residential building

If I got a 2.4 goal or less at my university I would be suspended. Less than 3.0 gpa and I would not be able to take graduate classes one I have my bachelors. Not to mention 4 classes of the same language are required of my film degree in order to graduate, and If I get anything less than a C in those classes they officially do not count and I cannot move on. Getting a D is as good as failing.

>Most if not all the reviews are rather negative
This has been factually proven wrong. 84% fresh on Rotten tomatoes means most have been positive. 66% means it's on par with other good super hero movie. you can twist as much as you want, there is no way around it.

I am at a good university. Basically 100% of the student who pass get a job. and a well paid one.
Then again, I am studying engineering.

so its another mediocre MCU movie

Carolfags are the worst

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WW was mediocre

Belgium.
>That’s why it happened in the comics.
And the Civil Wars event in the comic was FUCKING SHIT. I don't know how it is viewed right now, but back, most people hated it and hated its conclusion. Civil wars was an even forced in to make comic that ruined actual interresting issues going on and ruined them because it prevent them to get a satifacting resolution.

Fuck, Civil Wars wasn't event meant to be. intially, it was going to be the adaptation of the Seprent society arc, but then Marvel decided to compete with BvsS. And I even haven't talked about the shoehorned Spiderman that has basically zero impact on the story. The russo had say he was going integral to the plot and then he is just a glorified Cameo.

Civil war was a shitty comics event that should have been forgotten, not adapted.

No, it was a good movie. not great, but good.

IW = Infinity War

>Below 70 is not positive

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39 reviews
24 positive
14 mixed
1 negative
>Most of the reviews are poor
Looks like user can't into basic math.

>this other movie is bad, that means my movie isn't bad!

The absolute state of the Carol Corps

Oh, infinity was actually not that good objectively speaking. It’s fun seeing a the most superhero’s ever on screen, but that’s really the only draw.

Mixed is poor. And if a third is poor, then that’s not good. There are better movies to see.

it isn't.Avengers is a shit movie, for retards who literally religiously worship brands and mascots so much they can stomach insufferable writings and dialogs for literal children and pretend they witnessed art, like you.

Infinity War is not good either.

>but that’s really the only draw.
The main draw is Thanos. Then there is the fight of Iron Ma, Dr. Strange, spider Mann and the Guardian against Thanos, then there is Thor Journey which is great too. the only let donw part is the Wakanda war battle. The Russo still have to learn how to make good massive army choregraphy. Overall, it is a good movie, objectively.

Wasn't debating that. They're all just blurring into flashing colors to me at this point slowing down every few moments to crack a joke.

If you didn’t like that you’re not gonna like captain marvel who panders to 90’s nostalgia

>And if a third is poor, then that’s not good
Changing words and making up rules doesn't make you right.

Infinity War is a fucking Great movie. Are you guys from Yea Forums ?

What was great about infinity wars.

>blurring into flashing colors to m
Mixed isn't poor. Poor goes into the umbrella of negative. Learn to word.

Half the movie is a bore to watch. And if you watch the movie by itself without any context then it’s a pretty shit movie all together. And Thanos’s motivation makes no sense. Most of the cast is shit to watch.

see >The main draw is Thanos. Then there is the fight of Iron Ma, Dr. Strange, spider Mann and the Guardian against Thanos, then there is Thor Journey which is great too
But more importantly, the interraction between each character is good and feel natural. Thousand cast movie are not easy to do and IW pulled it great, there.

the only down point is the Wakanda army battles, that ame out as a bit boring, which reduce IW from great to good.

Even accepting this extraordinarily dubious definition, 15 out of 39 is not "most" unless you're doing Terrence Howard-level mathematics.

>Half the movie is a bore to watch.
Nope, only the Wakanda part, which is a third. and even then it has its moment.
>And if you watch the movie by itself without any context then it’s a pretty shit movie all together.
Now that is a stupid complain to make. Yes you will not get a sequel if you don't watch the previous movie. Hope you get a Nobel for that.

That was a boring fight just people flying and swinging around thanos, I especially hated the aftermath with quill fucking everything up. But more importantly you have to do better then one fight to make a good movie.

>but back, most people hated it and hated its conclusion

I was around back them. For what I recall, reviving Capt America was the problem fans had. The rest of your blog post old news.

>That was a boring fight just people flying
No.
>I especially hated the aftermath with quill fucking everything up.
That's kind of the point. And a reflect on Stark fucking up when he learned bucky was the arm who killed his parent.
> But more importantly you have to do better then one fight to make a good movie.
Anf they did more than that, so they succeeded.

>For what I recall, reviving Capt America was the problem fans had.
I recall clearly what most fans had a problem with was this.

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>no
Yes that’s exactly what it was rewatch and tell me otherwise. It was boring.
>That's kind of the point. And a reflect on Stark fucking up when he learned bucky was the arm who killed his parent.
It was stupid beyond belief half a universe is dead user because the character was a retard.
>Anf they did more than that, so they succeeded.
You yourself admitted you didn’t like wakanda which was a third of the movie, i didn’t like thanos and wakanda so even at best that’s 2/3 if the movie I hated.
They succeeded in making quill an idiot that’s only success I see.

(You)
Sally Floyd is the live embodiment of all fallacies possible. I wonder where she is at, nowadays.

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>Ghostbusters trailer comes out
>people say that the jokes are unfunny and the effects look cheap
>media whips itself into a frenzy over alt right nazi basement dwelling incels hating the movie because they're women, inciting the initial critics to hate even harder
>movie actually comes out, reviewers reluctantly admit that the jokes are unfunny and the effects are bad

>fast forward to 2019
>Captain Marvel trailer comes out
>people say Brie comes off as too dull and wooden
>media whips itself into a frenzy over alt right nazi basement dwelling incels hating the movie because she's a womana, inciting the initial critics to hate even harder
>movie actually comes out, reviews reluctantly admit that Brie's performance is stiff and the character isn't interesting

What are the odds anyone will learn from this

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Strange vs Thanos solo was cool and the plan they had to get the gauntlet was great until Starlord fucked it up.

I remember seeing it first time in the theater. When Mantis dropped on Thanos' head and put him to sleep it really seemed like they were going to get the Gauntlet off!

I missed when I could love and hate actors just based off their performances.

>Yes that’s exactly what it was rewatch and tell me otherwise. It was boring.
Simply say you don't like action scen. that will be simpler.
>It was stupid beyond belief half a universe
Yes, People under trauma do really stupid shit.
>You yourself admitted you didn’t like wakanda which was a third of the movie
I said, I thought the army chorgraphy was boring, which reduce the movie level from great to good, but even the Wakanda part had good interaction between characters. Me not liking some aspect of the Wakanda part doesn't mean I find it bad.
>They succeeded in making quill an idiot that’s only success I see.
They succeed making a big cast mvovie to thrilling and interesting and make you care about the story.

>>people say Brie comes off as too dull and wooden
I honestly think she does good acting in that movie. But I never dull nor wooden in the trailer either.

Fuck no, there was plans for another movie in the works. Why the fuck would they need to make a sequel if thanos lost. I knew thanos was gonna win but quills fuckup just beggared belief. Also Strange solo fight lasted 3min and while Strange looked decent, thanos effects were shoddy.

TL;DR

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>but quills fuckup just beggared belief.
His fucking up made sense. and that is wht it make this fight great.

OP is a cuck.

I can’t explain why this image made me laugh for five minutes.

Joke on you, I have never had a girlfriend in my life in the first place.

But beta males like you are still cucks for feminists, especially if these feminists you're cucking about hates men. Captain Marvel sucks, Brie Larson is a hateful bitch, Alita: Battle Angel is rather worth seeing, deal with it.

>But beta males like you are still cucks for feminists
I think you just don't know the meaning of words, man.
>Alita: Battle Angel
He real name is Gally. Why do American make those random name change ? Same with Leo the lion. What was wrong with Leo ? Why rename him Kimba ?

Remember in GotG2 when Quill found Ego killed his loved one and sperged out, saving the universe in the process, and we cheered on him for it?

That was the set up for IW. That's how that character works, and it's brilliant that they took the thing that made him succeed before and made it the reason for the catastrophe now.

Action scenes are fine when they’re done well. Not when it’s done like that.
People in trauma don’t become retards, even the most traumatic person doesn’t put his hand in the fire to spite the fire.
There were no good interactions in wakanda everything felt stilted, and Suri knows more about vision then it’s co creator was equally retarded.
How you feel about the army was how I felt about the entire movie.
Did you care? Because peters death was just funny, no one watching that movie gives a shit that half the universe died.

>we cheered on him for it?
I cheered because he won, and even then it literally took ego spelling out that he was evil for quill to actually do something smart.
Plus context is important peter sperged out when he had everything to lose and wasn’t torturing a demigod they just beat.

Correct. Right now, only fanboys and rabid haters are voting there. We'll have to wait for a few months to see the real score.

>Action scenes are fine when they’re done well. Not when it’s done like that.
Action scene were done well in Infinty war. they only lacked for the Army choreography.

>People in trauma don’t become retards,
see >even the most traumatic person doesn’t put his hand in the fire to spite the fire.
Man, that's awful analogy. Fire isn't a person.
>There were no good interactions in wakanda everything felt stilted,
Msot of the interaction were good.
> and Suri knows more about vision then it’s co creator was equally retarded.
Suri, a genius in programation and manipulating Vibranium and designing object controlling vibranium, know more about an Artificial Intelligent made out of Vibranium than a person specialised in Gamma Radiation in Super soldier Serum. Yup, you are right, it make no sense.
>How you feel about the army was how I felt about the entire movie.
How you feel doesn't make your points more valid.
>Because peters death was just funny, no one watching that movie gives a shit that half the universe died.
Most actually care.

>Did you care? Because peters death was just funny, no one watching that movie gives a shit that half the universe died.
You sound out of touch

I actually think it's a part of Fury's pride as well, hence why he said that they needed more heroes like her, in case shit hit the fan.

He didn't want to have to rely on her, while she has her quest to help the Skrulls.

Missin the point. PEter make decision based on emotion and has issue controlling himslef. him fucking up when learning about Gamora's death make complete sense.

I think Yea Forums will just be kind of underwhelmed with all the hype of rage they had built, and once the credits roll they'll just be disappointed it didn't have any strong feminist points to fight against.

All that rage was literally for nothing.

>while she has her quest to help the Skrulls.
And end the Kree war.

i didn't think she was too OP. With enough brute force she would be easily defeated.

She won't be able to solo Thanos for sure.

Exactly. Whenever this comes up I paraphrase Pat and the Superbesfriends from their discussion of IW on their podcast

>GOTG2 established Quill is the character who waits zero seconds to start shooting the shit out of you when he learns you hurt his loved ones. With Ego, that was awesome! But guess what, it's not awesome at all, it created a huge problem now!

And what's more, Quill's emotional reaction remains the same and he didn't learn to grow beyond it because it helped him win. Stark did lose everything because of his emotional reaction in Civil War, and that's why Quill's actions resonate so hard with him; Tony knows exactly what Quill is about to do, because it's what HE would do.
In seeing Quill fuck up their chance to win, he's seeing himself breaking the Avengers over his parents' deaths.

It's really good writing all around, but people don't look past "STARLORD SO DUMB HURR"

See Name a time in history where someone knew more then the creator of the object. Bonus points if that person saw that creation for the first time.
>How you feel doesn't make your points more valid.
Then by that standard your points are equally invalid.
Also considering after infinity war came out the entire board was full of people making fun of thanos snap and laughing at how peter died it’s safe to say no one cares that much.

I know how to “word” better than most of you it seems.

>Gets Half the universe wiped because he wanted to torture some one
Hurr durr this is genius writing, do you people listen to yourself. And yes that makes peter a retard he was retarded even back in gotg when like I said he needed ego to spell out he was an evil monster.

Nope, there were too many characters. Most of their interactions felt awkward and rushed. And only a few were given any attention.

>gets his adoptive father killed because he thinks before he acts
We sure peters just not a little slow?

see and >Then by that standard your points are equally invalid.
My point is that Quill acted in character in a way that make sense within the story. That you didn't like he did that doesn't mean it is bad writing. And yes, that still hold.
>Also considering after infinity war came out the entire board was full of people making fun of thanos snap and laughing at how peter died it’s safe to say no one cares that much.
Actually it showed they cared. Making fun of it is a classic way to cope with a story that made you sad. I mean, it's also how one deal with bad movies, but my point is, you don't make any point by telling me Yea Forums made fun of a certain scene.

Also saw it. My hot take is that we should join the U.S. Air Force! You get cool superpowers and an alien cat in the military. U.S.A. rocks! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!

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>god I love that shield
That was the best part of the movie, you know bucky is pro shield wall. Keep wakanda great.

Poor goes into Negative , not mixed.
I disagree and most were given fair time.

That too.

That’s not good writing. You make it seem like him beating a man in his sleep and wiping out half the universe is a lesson to be learned that’s a shit character.

>still shilling for the piece of garbage that is Alita
Embarrassing.

>That’s not good writing.
Yes, making a character fuck up because ihe is acting in-character IS good writing.

The weird love thing between Vision and Scarlet felt super weird. Cap and most of the people with him got like no screen time. Their fights were super lame. It’s icredibly apparent that the only semi interesting parts where what was going on in space. Thanos’s minions where lame too.

That line was lame and basically made for normiez to meme

>Actually it showed they cared. Making fun of it is a classic way to cope with a story that made you sad. I mean, it's also how one deal with bad movies.
I agree it was a bad movie since everyone was mocking the flaws and plotholes of the movie.
>My point is that Quill acted in character in a way that make sense within the story. That you didn't like he did that doesn't mean it is bad writing. And yes, that still hold.
Yeah ok you’re right it just makes peter a a shit character that I never want to watch again.

No, he's dumb, insecure and has little self control. That's established, and that's why it's consistent writing to have that play into what happened in Infinity War. Same as Drax being the guy who rushes in to his enemy without regard for consequences, he does it with Ronan and then with Thanos.

Consistency, son. It's how a story should work.

>Getting people killed and torturing a man is good writing
your morals and taste are fucked.

>he's dumb
So he’s slow

Yes, and if you think I'm disputing that, so are you.

Making characters do immoral things or mistake doesn't mean it is bad writing user.

I advice you read the Broken Empire trilogy, by Mark Lawrence

>The weird love thing between Vision and Scarlet felt super weird.
It was okay, IMO.
> Cap and most of the people with him got like no screen time.
Hence why most of the interactions were good in IW, as most of it was not them.

>is peter slow
>no he’s dumb
>so he’s slow then
>I’m not dumb you are
Jesus user what the fuck.

I personally thought it was a good movie. It definetely started slow, but by the mid-point of the movie I was having a blast.

>since everyone was mocking the flaws and plotholes of the movi
Nope, they weren't.
>Yeah ok you’re right it just makes peter a a shit character that I never want to watch again.
he made a fuck up that in the end, you understand where it comes from. You can see why they did that.

Not the user, you quoted, but he was actually saying that yes he was dumb. Learn to read.

Doing immoral things generally disqualifies you from being a hero that’s more anti hero.
As for broken empire sell me.

I loved this guy. Can he come back?

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Read it again, I said is peter slow. user goes goes no peter isn’t slow he’s dumb.
Then he throws a fit. Learn to take a joke people.

I watched it and I could not believe the amount of female empowerment there was in the theatre.
There were women of all shapes and sizes, men were stopped at the door, and everyone got ice cream at the end!

When I was walking into the theatre, I saw some misogynist alt-right incel parents with their 8 y.o. daughter buying tickets to alita battle alt-right incel. I screamed as loud as I could "YOU BETTER RETURN THOSE TICKETS AND GET THAT LITTLE GIRL THE CAPTAIN MARVEL TICKETS SHE DESERVES". They seemed scared of my female empowerment and promptly left the theatre. I'm glad they're going to raise her left (not alt-right), at least.

On the way in I helped a 40 year old trans-cripple in a wheelchair down to her seat, and sat right next to her. She came to watch LITERAL CIVIL RIGHTS in action. I was so excited to finally see a movie that let me leave the maninist society and shed these patriarchal bonds.

Then the movie started.
and I was blown away.
Every SECOND was like an entire course in feminist studies taught by anita sarkeesian herself! It went into Captain Marvel being the first women to vote, first women to fly in a plane, and first woman to go to outer space. then, halfway through the movie, the Alt-right Kreecels attacked. She looked at the camera, longingly, and said

"Never send a man to do a woman's job"

And you know what?

I clapped.

I CLAPPED REALLY HARD

THE WHOLE THEATRE WAS CLAPPING

ALL OF WOMANKIND ON EARTH CLAPPED ALL AT ONCE

WE WERE ALL CLAPPING TO THE MOST GLORIOUS MOMENT EVER RECORDED IN CINEMA

THIS MOVIE IS AMAZING, 10/10 I'M GOING TO WATCH FIFTY TIMES AND GET ALL MY BOYFRIENDS TO BUY TICKETS FOR IT (never let them watch it, they're too privileged for that) I AM SO GLAD DISNEY IS GOING TO MAKE LOTS OF MONEY FOR FINALLY ENDING WOMEN SLAVERY

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Jesus Christ yourself, the "no" wasn't denying he's dumb, it was a way of saying "he's not a little slow, he's outright dumb, that's the character".

I'm not disputing that, I'm saying that keeping that characterization consistent is good writing, and I'm calling you dumb because you don't seem to get that a dumb character doing something dumb that affects the story and has consequences not just for others but for himself is good writing.

Just because you don't like the outcome (which is a cliffhanger at the middle of the story), it doesn't make him a bad character, or the story a bad story.

You know you can be dumb and not slow right ? Like one an make really dumb decision super quickly.

>the characters were good because they were hardly on!
bait?

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I command you, user, on it not being a pasta.

Keeping a character dumb is good writing?
Even when his idiocy gets his adoptive father killed or screws him multiple time culminating in the death of half the world? Not developing a character is shit writing.

No, you being bad at reading. It was specifically about interaction. Most of the interactions in IW were good, because the character who had bad interaction had less screen time.

YES, THAT'S CHARACTER CONSISTENCY WITH CONSEQUENCES, YOU DAFT FUCK

Scarlet and Vision were all bad and awkard interactions that made me cringe. Captain and Buckey just made a couple lines that normies loved and promptly forgot about. Everyone on earth was entirely forgetable. Earth was forgettable. Half the movie is bad.

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With consequeces like that I don’t want anything to do with that character.

>Keeping a character dumb is good writing?
user, you are moving the goal post.

Espeically with comments like that. You seems to think liek there is some absolute bhid keeping a character dumb is either good writing or bad writing., whereas it actually depend of the story iteself and on the progression of the charater. In this case it was good writing to make him act stupidly on a fit to emotional pain, because it is fitting his current progression.

Character who has developed are not safe from royal fuck up no mater what or from letting their emotion overcome them.

Giving a character a new strength he hsn't earned, on the other hand IS bad writing.

And could you please stop acting as if that scene was defining his whole characterisation whereas it is clearly displaying him at his worst ?

Then go watch the Carebears or some crap, you're not mature enough for even kid shit like comic books and superhero movies.

>Half the movie is bad.
user, you yourself admitted that they had less screentime than the other. it was less than a third of the movie. seeing all the other had good interaction, it means that most of the interactions were good.

you are not going to make a point when you yourself admitted only the wakanda cast had bad interaction and said yourself the wakanda cast had less screentime.

I didn’t start the goal post moving. I just said he was slow, the other user is the one talking about him being dumb makes it good writing, which is what I diasgree with.
>In this case it was good writing to make him act stupidly on a fit to emotional pain, because it is fitting his current progression.
He’s an idiot who doesn’t learn and gets people killed. Once understandable, twice well he’s still young, third well he’s a little slow, fourth where his fuckup kills an entire nation is where I draw the line.
>scene was defining his whole characterisation whereas it is clearly displaying him at his worst ?
Depends on the fuckup, this is his worst If infinity stones weren’t like dragon balls and deus ex machina to fix everything He would stay a bad character.

Can someone please tell me where this ranks among other MCU films?

>Salt-n-pepa
>Hole
>No doubt
>Des'ree
>Nirvana
*cracks* *sip*
Ah, now that was an OST

>just said he was slow, the other user is the one talking about him being dumb makes it good writing
He said he was not just slow, but also dumb, it was quite clear, but you decided to nitpick his literal words.
> talking about him being dumb makes it good writing, which is what I diasgree with.
You are wrong. if womeone is established as being dumb, bad writting would be to make him uddenly smart. also, you don't judge a character by just when he is at his worst.

>He’s an idiot who doesn’t learn and gets people killed
Wh say he didn't realise he had royaly fucked up. the only reason he isn't learning anymore is because he is dusted. You are factually wrong when you say he didn't learn anything from his fuck up with Thanos.
> Once understandable, twice well he’s still young, third well he’s a little slow
user, he only suffered once from his attitued and he died from it, you fail to make a point, there.

>He would stay a bad character.
He would be a character with good characterisation whose current state lead him to do a big mistake that is completely fitting to how he has been written so far. it is good writing.

It's not exactly what you asked for, but it is basically like Aquaman..

Pretty low.
Entertaining enough, but has little to no stakes, basically no character arcs and it shits the bed in its third act by becoming boring, predictable and railroaded.
Has nothing memorable about it aside from the cat

The 90's weren't a good time for pop music, overall. Maybe that's why there are less 90's flick than 80's ones.

the incels triggered by a marketing campaign designed to trigger incels, white male fails etc., (for free publicity) are .....

>He’s an idiot who doesn’t learn and gets people killed. Once understandable, twice well he’s still young, third well he’s a little slow, fourth where his fuckup kills an entire nation is where I draw the line.

What are you even talking about? The scene where his emotional outburst are established ends with him saving the universe. Yondu only dies because he swoops in to save Quill, who had already resigned himself to die along with Ego. Hell, Yondu's self-sacrifice echoes Quill's own attempt at self-sacrifice to save Gamora in GOTG1.

Thanos is the first time Quill's emotional reaction has negative consequences, and it's, again, meant to reflect on Stark's own failure to control his emotions, which broke up the Avengers.

You're just whining that you don't like that "bad thing happened because character is flawed"

PRACTICE ASS

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>basically no character arcs
Wut ? Carol denvers has a whole Arc, Going from kill all Skrulls to Holly shit, the Kree are actually evil.

Then a third of the movie is shit. All of Earth felt inconsequential as fuck, and all the Earth cast felt like they were just there because the children and manchildren would gasp in delight to see so many of their heroes on screen even if the fight was fucking lame.

On the same level as Ant-man. A bit better, actually.

That's not a character arc so as much realizing she's been lied to. It's not like she changed as a character through that.

Probably the worst MCU film so far.

>Then a third of the movie is shit.
It's less than a third and even then, not all interactions were bad.
>because the children and manchildren would gasp in delight to see so many of their heroes on screen even if the fight was fucking lame.
It's more because Vision had one of the infinity gem on his head.

That tells me nothing because Aquaman was fun and I’m not getting the vibe from this
3rd acts often are shit in comic movies

>It's not like she changed as a character through that.
She actually did.

Nope, that's Civil War.

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>It's less than a third and even then
You keep moving goalposts. And yes, all the interactions were bad.
>It's more because Vision had one of the infinity gem on his head.
And they managed to make the entire fight for his stone super fucking lame. He didn't even put up a fight.

>because Aquaman was fun
And Captain America is fun. It might actually be telling for you, because they are quite comparable. If you had fun with Aquaman, you will have fun with Captain Marvel.

Aquaman at least had impressive visuals though, and a likable main character. Captain Marvel has neither of those, nor does it have a good main story.

Aquaman felt like a proper blockbuster and was genre-savvy enough to come at you in full force with what you needed according to the moment. Action, adventure, horror, epic: Captain Marvel has the same low-brow tone for all its scenes minus when she remembers who she is and the awakening of her powers.

That's why I said arcs (she's the only one who has one -okay, Coulson's choice if you feel generous, moreover she really never manifests the intense hostility against Skrulls she's known. But more than anything it's like her allegiance never really lied with the Kree 100%, there's the first training sequence with Jude Law, then everything after the mindprobe she's after her real identity. She's angry because she's been lied to, but never once we could doubt that her militaristic Kree upbrining had made a dent on her: there's no stakes because both we as watchers and Carol as a character know that she's from Earth and that's where all of her character comes from.
She doesn't feel any particular tie to Yon-Rogg's blood, the Hala society, their way of living, the Supreme Intelligence, or anything. Her arc is yet another Young Adult 'the real power was inside of you all along beyond the society's lies' and that's it.

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entire posts smells of pr bullshit. I don't believe you one bit. Especially when even far left journalist review sites came out and said it's shit.

>>He would stay a bad character.
>He would be a character with good characterisation whose current state lead him to do a big mistake that is completely fitting to how he has been written so far. it is good writing.

It's almost as if the theme of Infinity War was "to prevail, you need to overcome your personal issues and embrace sacrifice for something greater", which only Thanos, who wins, and Doc Strange, for what seems to set up a long con to pay out in Endgame, manage to do; and this theme flew right over that user's head.

I was joking, but that wasn't irony -as a guy in my 30s I liked it. The woman around 40 next to me sang half of Malibu and Just a Girl when they played.

seeand Civil War is forced drama that could be easily avoidable, peole being uncharacteristically stupid, a final fight based on something Tony should have know since Civil War and that Steve had no reason to keep from Tony anyway. It is based on a comic events that should have never happened in the first place and ruined many ongoing story, shoehorned at the last minute a Spiderman we were sworn was planned to be here from the start and was a late replacement for a Serpent Society script because Disney wanted to fuck over the Warner Bros and its BvsS.

Civil War is the worst MCU movie. Period.

I just can't do it anymore. I keep trying to shill this fucking movie and all these bad reviews keep coming out! It's so hard to try and make Bri Larson look good and I wish I didn't work for jewish overlords. The truth is I'm a paid shill and Captain marvel isn't good! I just can't take this any more!

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>You keep moving goalposts
There was zero goalpost moving, my initial statement was that most interaction were good and by your own statement (only the wakanda cast had bad one, and the wakanda cast had less screentime), you dfacto agree with that.

>And yes, all the interactions were bad.
Here you are contradicting yourself.

Wakanda and Earth was entirely bad. Thor was the best part of the movie. Everyone else was so-so. Wakanda is a third of the movie, and you moved the goalpost about how much of the movie it took up.

>Here you are contradicting yourself.
No, dumbass. I'm saying all the interactions on Earth are bad. All of them. You only think they're decent because they try and minimize them. But now they feel like they're just cameos and don't have a reason to exist. Captain America could not be in the movie and it would not affect the plot, or Black Widow for that matter, and especially Bucky. All of Cap's team don't need to exist. In fact, Wakanda doesn't need to exist. You could just have the government trying to protect Vision. Anybody can protection vision, and Wakanda is fucking dumb.

No ones nitpicking shit, I assumed he meant this
See my argument isn’t that peters just dumb it’s thats he’s slow.
> bad writting would be to make him uddenly smart
I agree but that’s not the case here, listening to your friends who are crying out in pain to stop beating a villain isn’t asking him to Mensa member it’s asking for basic human etiquette.
>You are factually wrong when you say he didn't learn anything from his fuck up with Thanos.
I’m not denying he didn’t learn anything but that excuse doesn’t fly for me. If a drunk driver killed a family due to negligence he doesn’t get a pass because he learned his lesson.
Peters fuck up is on such a grand scale I struggle to sympathize.
>user, he only suffered once from his attitued and he died from it, you fail to make a point, there.
Oh it’s more than once it builds up, from mistakenly aiding the enemy to dying to getting his adoptive dad killed to finally to half a universe.
Characters without flaws do not make good characters but characters with flaws who do not improve or worse end with families dead are not good characters either.

It's time to admit defeat, Carol fags. It wasn't her turn.

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If the infinity stones didn’t exist to bring people back that lesson rings hollow.

>Civil War is forced drama that could be easily avoidable
>a final fight based on something Tony should have know since Civil War

I agree, there wasn't enough time travel.

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>Aquaman felt like a proper blockbuster and was genre-savvy enough to come at you in full force with what you needed according to the moment.
And I consider Captain Marvel did about the same.
> moreover she really never manifests the intense hostility against Skrulls she's known
Did you miss the start of the movie ? Or did you forget how she escape ?
>But more than anything it's like her allegiance never really lied with the Kree 100%,
The whole point is, she is still trying to figure out who she is. And a part of her want to completely goes into the Kree's side because it would be an easier life for her, but the other part insist something is missing and need to be found back.

> then everything after the mindprobe she's after her real identity
Wrong She is still after the Skrulls, and her main focus is about preventing the Skrulls from getting the light engines.
>She's angry because she's been lied to, but never once we could doubt that her militaristic Kree upbrining had made a dent on her:
Wrong. She is basically going all mac-carthy about anyone who could be Skrull. The only reason she ready to listen is because one come at face value and with a potential hostage. She only ever get angry after listening to the black box. before that, she is rzady to fry him. Have you forgotten how she was ready to go full photon on the neighboor, just because he might have been a Skrull ? she was full paranoia on.

>She doesn't feel any particular tie to Yon-Rogg's blood, the Hala society, their way of living, the Supreme Intelligence
She does feel tied tothe Supreme intelligence, and respect her mentor. A lot. You see she is bound to her team. It's post black box she goes full hate because she know she has been used and manipulated. Even more so when she discover the Skree are after refugees.

Characters doing bad thing and dying for it happens very often in story. Deoesn't make those bad.

Sorry, my bad, I meant since Winter Soldier, When the Hydra data were all leaked to the public. Russo having written both Winter Soldier and and Civil War, there is zero excuse.

You're really reaching user, and most of this stuff is you writing the script for Disney.

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People disagreeing with you doens't mean they are shill.

The Skrulls did nothing wrong, they're just refugees part made little sense compared to how unrelentingly the Kree were pursuing them everywhere even after blowing up their planet.
>it's because we're the only ones they could never subdue
What the fuck does that mean? If the Kree had a genociding intent, that wouldn't look like a proper war even from the Kree propaganda's side. And if all the Skrulls wanted nothing but hide, they literally could shapeshift and merge with other societies. I feel like Talos going 'some factions among us resorted to terrorism due to oppression' or some shit would've helped everything but the writers really wanted to avoid the implications of that after making the refugees metaphor as painfully close as they could

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>If a drunk driver killed a family due to negligence he doesn’t get a pass because he learned his lesson.
PETER DIED AFTER SEEING HIS FRIENDS DISINTEGRATE

We don't know how they'll resolve the dusting. Maybe they'll prevent it from happening altogether, which would erase Peter's mistake, and I hope it doesn't go that way. But if they reverse it, and Peter's mistake remains, we've yet to see how they'll deal with his characterization from then on.

Maybe they'll hold him accountable for it, maybe he'll be wrecked by guilt. Maybe they won't do anything because of the Gunn thing. But you can't say "he got away with it" or "he's hard to sympathize with" when we're still just minutes after the outcome of his actions. Once Endgame, GOTG3 or wherever they deal with it comes out, then you can evaluate and come to whatever conclusion you will.

>Everyone else was so-so. Wakanda is a third of the movie, and you moved the goalpost about how much of the movie it took up.
Nope, I didn't. you are literally the one who said they had the less screentime. Own your words, user.
>I'm saying all the interactions on Earth are bad. All of them.Not the one with War machine. And the discussion of sacrifying Vision was good too. Also, once Thor, Rocket and Groot comes on earth, it become great too.

This just in! The Rotten tomatoe score went down to 82%

Captain Marvel is gonna eat dirt!

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Well my bias is that I actually like Aquaman’s material so that’s probably a factor

And if not written well it doesn’t make it good.
Half the universe is dead so maybe 3 people learned that
>sacrifice good
Doesn’t make me like em.

>I have liked all of the MCU movies except Civil War
And into the trash it goes.

Just walked out of the theater from watching Captain Marvel, pretty good.

Context / Observations / Summary...

Context...Enjoy Marvel in general, but see their faults (Iron Fist, some seasons of Agents of Sheild) Thought Black Panther was good but not great. Not a DC Hater but they just don’t know what they want to do, didn’t like Wonder Woman (more because I though GD was the wrong choice). With all that said the film was good, but not great...

Observations...Marvel is ALMOST painting by numbers, but they still have a bit of heart to the film. I believe Marvel tried to hard to prove a point by making C.Marvel UBER powerful. She’s almost Superman minus the kryptonite. She’s so freaking OP that I think it’s going to cause a problem writing suitable threats that she alone can’t handle. She may not be as strong as the hulk but she’s almost on his level, she may not be as capable as Cap/Black Widow at hand2hand, but she’s on their level, she may not be as...no she’s much more powerful than base Iron Man... and on top of all that it isn’t even really clear what her powers can’t do (she pushes, burns and picks-up with her powers)... Bree Larson is better than I expected, but haters gonna hate... Ben M.l, really was a show stealer... the cat is meh, but they have to do stuff like that nowadays.

If you’ve read marvel comic books you can already see the problem... bigger power levels require a bigger threat to make things interesting and once you go that route it becomes an arms race...

>Nope, I didn't. you are literally the one who said they had the less screentime. Own your words, user.
Yes, I said they have no screen time individuall, because there are too many characters, which is inevitable considering the size of the fucking cast. And it's damn hypocritical for you to say to me to own my words when you're the one who keeps lowering how much time you think Earth spends on screen.

WAIT! FUCK! NO! TOP CRITICS ARE GONNA GO ROTTEN! FUCK! STOP THIS! FUCKING STOP THIS!

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I'm getting into contact with RT support right now. I'm gonna stop those incels in their fucking tracks! Those alt-right manbabies aren't gonna win on my watch!

>See my argument isn’t that peters just dumb it’s thats he’s slow.
Except he only get to learn his lesson once, with thanos and died just after, you can't claim he doesn't learn from that.
>I agree but that’s not the case here, listening to your friends who are crying out in pain to stop beating a villain isn’t asking him to Mensa member it’s asking for basic human etiquette.
But making him had baddly when he was at his emotionally worst stateisn't bad writing. either. Making Peter act the way he did was good writing, as it fit his characterisation.
> If a drunk driver killed a family due to negligence he doesn’t get a pass because he learned his lesson.
Beside the point, we are not arguing if Peter should get a pass, but if it was good writing. Youare not asked to sympathise, there.
>Oh it’s more than once it builds up, from mistakenly aiding the enemy to dying to getting his adoptive dad killed to finally to half a universe.
He didn't accidentally aid the enemies, quite on the contrary, by keeping the stone for himself, he actually prevented it from falling in the wrong hands, and the death of his adoptive father isn't his fault either.
And throughout all this Peter actually improved. But learning to deal with deep emotional trauma was one of thing he did not improve on, nor was he ever really given the chance to do so.

A few other thing from the original anom....

They arent going to have a problem explaining why it took her so long to get back. It makes sense.

They are going to have a problem explaining why she didn’t go full destroyer on the Kree between the 90s and whenever the GotG I/II took place...

I’m extremely interested to see how they balance / first meeting between Thor and Captain M.

>Did you miss the start of the movie ? Or did you forget how she escape ?
They had captured her, she escaped. The movie never puts her in a situation where she has to go after a Skrull of her own volition aside from the train scene, and only after she's been shot by the sniper.
>Wrong She is still after the Skrulls, and her main focus is about preventing the Skrulls from getting the light engines.
That's her mission, but 1) she was literally told NOT to go to Pegasus, she had to wait until the Star force got there and 2) Fury literally spells for us that she goes to Pegasus for a personal reason
>Wrong. She is basically going all mac-carthy about anyone who could be Skrull.
That's about suspecting the Skrulls, my point was that no one has ever any doubt that she might choose her Kree identity after all, or that she might be conflicted. I don't think that can be disputed. Are you being difficult on purpose?

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I am not. it's quite straightforward.
>you writing the script for Disney
It's literally there. Almost spelled out.

>b-but Superhero movies don't review well in general!
*ahem*

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>he's hard to sympathize with
I can say exactly this, People are dead because of his fuck up.
Listen this getting way too long all I wanted to say was I think peters slow that’s it.

>pursuing them everywhere even after blowing up their planet.
They wanted to get Carol at all cost because it was their only lead. It's just that at some point, Talos decided that a more soft approach might yield better result.

You're seeing things that aren't their, and that you're just making up to try and make the movie seem better than it actually is. Sunk cost fallacy.

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
I MADE MY MISTAKES
GOT NO WHERE TO RUN

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>And if all the Skrulls wanted nothing but hide, they literally could shapeshift and merge with other societies
Did you miss the part where Ronan is ready to genocide full planet to eradicate the Skrull menace ?
> I feel like Talos going 'some factions among us resorted to terrorism due to oppression
But that's actually how it is. Talos himself say h has done awful thing during the was "My hand are dirty too", when Carol try to apologise to what she did to them. They clearly establish Skrulls aren't innocent either.

>those shoelaces
The fuck?

First thing first, stop... typing... like a... fucking retard...
Second, her power level in the movie was fine because at least we could see her getting used to it and the only vulgar display of power was blowing up that Accuser's spaceship at the end. The reason why I'm mad is that she's not shown to have her signature energy absorption powers. Sure, let her be the source of her own powers because >muh implications about women, but keep the absorption as an extra. Carol not tanking a huge blast only to redirect it at you is like having Thor with a hammer but no lightning and it fucking sucks.

>all I wanted to say was I think peters slow that’s it.
You can't really call someone slow if they only had one occasion to learn from their attitude and died from it.

You don't have to like Peter as a person, but he is well writen as a character. so is Thanos, but you do'nt have to like him either.

>She’s almost Superman minus the kryptonite.
She is basically starfire.

>Yes, I said they have no screen time individuall, because there are too many characters,
You specifically said the Wakanda cast had less screentime.>Cap and most of the people with him got like no screen time.
Hence why most of the interractions in IW are good. according to your own words:
-Only the cap cast had bad interactions
-The cap cast had almost no screen time.
Therefore most of the interactions in IW are good. By the presets you defined yourself.

Your reply has no correlation with the post you're replying to, because they only get the clue after they mind probe her

>They had captured her, she escaped.
And she kill and insult and beat them to do so.
And throw them in the void.
>The movie never puts her in a situation where she has to go after a Skrull of her own volition aside from the train scene
So you are saying she actually goes after the Skrull s on her own volution. Glad we agree. And that they try to shoot her change nothing. she is still after them and even teach Fury how to recognise Skrulls.
> she was literally told NOT to go to Pegasus, she had to wait until the Star force got there
So, you are forgetting her motivation was that she was afraid the Skrull would get the engine before her team arive ? because, up until the black Box, tht was her motivation to find it: preven the Skrull from getting it.
>2) Fury literally spells for us that she goes to Pegasus for a personal reason
One doesn't prevent the other. Has the movie goes on, her action get more an more motivated by perosnal reason. it's part of her Arc, you know, the one we were tlaking about.
>my point was that no one has ever any doubt that she might choose her Kree identity after all, or that she might be conflicted
Her alligiance to Krree make zero doubt, up until the black box. And she has still her doubt up until she see the refugee. It's once she see them her mind trully change.

>You're seeing things that aren't their
I am telling you thing that are basically spelled out.

Your comic sucks, nobody just says "viral".

>They are going to have a problem explaining why she didn’t go full destroyer on the Kree between the 90s and whenever the GotG I/II took place
Because the Kree had actually become more peaceful and even signed a peace treaty with Xandar. It's Ronan who went rogue. You could ask why she didn't try to stop Ronan, but the universe is big and she might have been busy somewhere else.

>but keep the absorption as an extra.
Imean, she literally absorbed her power in the first place, so there is that.

Nope, it's said in the movie. they wanted to mind probe Carol because she let out the same energy signature than the engine Marr-Vell was working on. And they seeked MArr-Vell because they know she had protected the refugees.

IT's because you are too young to remember that "viral marketing" was the buzzword way before "shill" became popular.

>That is not how appreciating the quality of something or lack thereof works
It works for comic book movies.
>I didn't like all of them.
Oh wow, you didn't like ONE movie out of 20!
Btw the fact that you like Thor: DW more than CW is enough for me to don't trust your opinion on CM.

>It works for comic book movies.
Nope.
>Btw the fact that you like Thor: DW more than CW is enough for me to don't trust your opinion on CM.
Thor 2 is underrated.You should rewatch it some days. It mostly fell victim from the first wave of MCU fatigue.

Thor 2 doesn't have a bunch of people beating each other up because they are too stupid to talk things up.

>the hero of the story goes after a weapon that's sought after by the bad guys
There's nothing that specifically tells us about her loyalty to the Kree. Therefore there's little to no conflict on that side. She's anti-Skrulls if anything, but that's only because she has all reasons to believe they're the bad guys.

>Nope.
Yeap.
>Thor 2 is underrated
Uh-huh, sure.
>You should rewatch it
No thanks, I'd rather watch the grass grow. Even that would be more interesting and better waste of my time than rewatching Thor 2.
Because this movie has other issues.

>There's nothing that specifically tells us about her loyalty to the Kree.
She want to stop the Skrulls precisely because she consider them a threat to the Kree empire.

>Yeap.
No, it doens't. Not knowing the source material does not magically make you unconditionally like an adaptation.

>Because this movie has other issues.
It objectively has zero issues.

Lmao whatever. Fuck Captain Femtard

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“Stop typing like a retard”
... thanks for the advice.
... I’ll take it to heart
...thanks

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Fair point, and delivered in a factual non-aggressive, actually civil manner. Are you sure you want to be on Yea Forums?

Yuropoor here, came back from the theater. It's really awkward how weak the movie was in terms of constructing characters and building up the emotional beats. For how bland the Marvel movies are, in general, those are the two things they nearly always have on point. Even in Ant-Man, I ended up caring for Scott. Even Age of Ultron had moments like Vision's stand-off with Ultron after the fall of Sokovia. Captain Marvel only sold Talos and the Skrulls on those terms. I ended up liking Carol's bullheaded, puckish personality, but that's the superficial layer. The movie didn't give me much reason to care for her as an actual person, maybe because of how it itself keeps her at arms' lenght and fairly dehumanized for so long. It fell in the same pitfall as Man of Steel, where you get what the film is going for, what it wants you to feel, but it doesn't connect due to the failure at laying down the fundamental building blocks for the protagonist. It's like this movie established the "idea" of Carol and not Carol as a character.

For what it's worth, I think Carol will work pretty well in Avengers, because of how shaved-off the characters are in those movies in the first place. You don't need more than the bare minimum in those flicks and her attitude should play off pretty well off Thor and be in an interesting contrast to Cap. But I really hope someone else will get to handle the sequel, than these literally whos.

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>It's good. If you like Super Hero movie, you will like this one.

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It's a coming of age story where the character could be 18 or 60 and nothing would change, for starters. Plus you went to see a Carol Danvers movie so the 'omg she's a human, not a Kree?!?' is no plot twist, to the point that not even the movie tries to sell it as that.
Hell, they tried so little that absolutely nothing in Carol's personality and interactions changes after her best friend makes her remember her past aside from her little talk with Monica. Everything else stays the same.

>he doesn’t know about tony’s robot eye
Do you even mcu?

I was actually pleasantly surprised by the movie. Expected something kinda mediocre but there's quite a few sincere moments in there that make it worth it, and it's hard to dislike it when characters like Nick, Rambeau and the Skrulls are so well executed. I would definitely say it's too "formulaic" at times, but only in the sense that every single scene seems to show you only what you need to know but doesn't really do much else in terms of fleshing out the world. It feels like they could've used a more Guardians of the Galaxy-level scope when it comes to the world building but other than that it's solid fun and all the characters are fun. Brie Larson, despite not getting a lot of script to work with, did good. I like how despite basically being an amnesiac alien she constantly fucks with people like Nick. She's fun when she's allowed to do stuff (which is about 50% of the time), so I expect she'll be good in Endgame where Russos have managed to give almost everyone a shining moment (and in my case even redeem the shitshow that was Doctor Strange).

It's not gonna make you a fan if you weren't into it already but it's a surprisingly enjoyable smaller scale Marvel movie. Sometimes these movies are just "alright", and that's okay. Certainly not worth some of the drama people are making of it. At worst people are gonna forget about it and move on next month once Avengers comes out.

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I bet you guys enjoyed Justice League when that shit came out

Nope. it had some good bit, but overall disappointing.

I haven't watched it yet, but from my understanding, it's just an okay movie and people are bending over backwards to paint it as amazing or awful to fit their narratives, is that right?

More or less but keep in mind that it's the 'by the book, unmemorable' kind of okay so people who had higher expectations or wanted a closer comic book adaptation are considerably disappointed and I'd say rightfully so. But it really isn't worth hating because unless Larson comes up with some even dumber interview everyone will forget about the movie in a week really

Yeah it's just alright.
People are getting up in arms over some reviews and only now starting to pay attention to stuff like MC/RT Average despite it being the same scores and shit as your average Marvel movie. If you're in the mood for a run of the mill Marvel fix, this movie's got you covered. Either you watch it and you'll like it, or you'll forget about it until the next one comes out

For many here, the appraisal go from average to actually good, but some here call shill people who don't say it is bad.

>or wanted a closer comic book adaptation
I think nobody here wanted a closer comic book adaptation.

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In a way, watching MCU movie has become like reading Super hero comics (at least from the big two), you read them because they keep you entertained even tough you forgot what the issue of 6 months ago was about.

>just like Captain Marvel

I also saw the Captain Marvel movie last night at a 4 am screening. It was okay. It was whelmed. I think if you like these movies you should go see it. You'll also feel adequate about your choice and continue to look forward to the next MCU movie and all following ones. It will be worth the money you paid. Even if you don't like the star you won't completely dislike her. Even if you do dislike her there are other characters you might like. In fact, there is a cat! Do you like cats? You will like this cat. There might be something special about him. But you'll need to stick around for the fantastic post-credit scenes to find out.

So make sure to go to the movie but only if you think you'll like it or you know anyone you think likes these movies. Maybe also go multiple times. If nothing else it will be better than masturbating alone

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Imbd scoring is user based and the movie isn't out in most countries.
Okay, this is particularly telling.

Fetal Alcohol Syndrome is truly tragic

I think the main takeaway is that women suck at rating films.

No, Captain Marvel is actually good from start to finish, without being outstandish.

Source of the pic ?

Jesus Christ. This fucking cutesy twee /pol/speak bullshit that's spread like a cancer to Yea Forums and Yea Forums ("OH NO NO NO NO!!! YAAASSS SLAAAAY QUEEEEN uh no sweetie cishet male scum" etc. etc.) is like nails on a goddamn chalkboard. You retards use these words a billion times more often than actual SJWs you're mimicking. Why are /pol/ such unoriginal, repetitive, and obnoxious little shits?

I think it differs more from Captain Marvel in that no one with a brain stem had any expectations for CM.

The main take away is that more than three hundred 45+ years old men thought they had to give a bad review to a movie they had not seen yet.

Before seeing this, I thought most of the seething was coming from underage edgy boys.

And I'm sure there's no counter seething at all from any other demographic.

The female who give a too high score are only 3 and have at leas the excuse of being underage. And much less women overall (only 600 compared to the 5000 man) have scored a movie they haven't seen yet. It's much less aggravating.

So far, much less women than men are scoring a movie they haven't seen yet, so I'd say they have at least a better grasp on that.

What?

Ha Gay

Grace breaking down "muh feminism"
youtube.com/watch?v=cmgPTaz7yho

>movie about bland comic book character is bland
wow im shocked

>For the sakeof reference, I have liked all of the MCU movies except Civil War and have liked all of the MCU side-show except for Inhumans. So make of it what you will.
I mean that tells everyone all they need to know, you have no taste whatsoever and this movie is utter shit.

>all this fucking engrish

>It objectively has zero issues.
Welp, I see no point continuing this conversation if you actually believe this. That was a real waste of my time. Not as much as Thor 2, but still.

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>somehow worse than Wonderwoman
Jesus Christ. How could this happen bros

Yeah, a good whole third of the movie has shit interactions BECAUSE they had little screen time and where just there to throw down.

And stop fucking saying Wakanda. It’s Earth. Everything in Earth and not just Wakanda you stupid fucking bitch. You are irritating as fuck.

not seeing it get bent lololol

So as a pleb who never reads the comics and only watches cape cartoons and movies I wanted to ask something about the skrulls.
Aren't they actually a bunch of invading assholes in the comics or did I just get that wrong?
They are one of the main villains of the FF right?

First half was good. Second half got progressively worse. They apparently felt the way to make her look strong was to make everybody else job.

I can accept that she is the strongest hero, given how she was empowered, but she was degenerating into a lolcow and the character does not deserve it.

Also, genderswapping Mar-Vell? Wow. How is that different from whitewashing?

The hate-mass was about to explode even before rotten tomatoes incident. An "OK" movie will not save Carol Danvers. I foresee a catastrofe when rotten open audience score.

There are.

But although they are okay, they do not do the tradition justice.

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She's pretty cool.
"Did you know?"
"Yes."
"Is that why you always kept your distance from me?"
"No, I just don't like you very much."

>obviously he never did.

That's for the sequel. I pray that it has the Nova corps, that Nova is as powerful as she is and that the conflict sparks Ronan's hatred of the Xandarians.

Skrulls did nothing wrong. They are just trying to live in peace away from the Imperialist Kree oppressors. Skrulls were living peacefully and trying to assimilate on Earth before the Kree chased them down for Exterminatus.

>I actually like that conclusion, she isn't falling for an obvious taunt.

He just wanted that final fight. He is a Kree, he loves fighting.
This wasn't about that, this was just about her telling a man - indeed, a masculine archetype - that she doesn't care what he thinks. Which is stupid, really... she may be an excellent pilot and have a will of iron, but he taught her everything else.

It did.

A mano a mano fight to settle the score is a thing women can never understand.

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The train fight was based and that shitty strawman-dump of a final fight was not a worthy follow up.