Empire racist bad

Shh, user, you're in Yea Forumsmblr.

One thing is wanting everyone to keep to themselves, considering yourselves superior and hating everyone else is another thing entirely, especially since Empire owned homeworlds of many species

Empire did nothing wrong

>considering yourselves superior and hating everyone else
literally everyone is allowed to do this as long as they aren't white
it's just called having "pride in your culture"

Pride=/=hating everyone else

yes
I hate cultures that believe women are property
that execute people over their sexual practices
that mutilate the genitals of infants
that cut your hands off if you steal
that have sex with children
that have sex with animals
that eat other people
and a whole range of other things

if your culture believes in those things it is below mine and our people are superior. If not then we have no problems

Hello, young one. this was confirmed ever since the OG RPG guide of Star Wars, where it was established Palpatine was kind of a xenophobic, favoring humans in his army over other aliens That was directly approved by George Lucas decade ago. admiral Thawrn was the one exception because he had been able to prove himself far above anyone else.

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Fucking casuals. It's almost as if you don't know this has been a major plot point since 91 when the Thrawn Trilogy came out.

>give one reason why it's bad
It goes again individual right and judging someone on their own merit. It gives advantages to people that did nothing to deserve it. It allow a powerplay over other that, if you are racist, will be abused. It create tensions that lead to the death of people that didn't deserve it on all side.

>preserving culture
>giving people a sense of belonging
Literally who gives a shit.

>literally everyone is allowed to do this as long as they aren't white
False.

Fair point, not gonna happen tho as globalism will erase all of that, but hey, stuff you hate will be generally looked down upon too

Barely. They're tolerated under official policy but unofficially, they're second if not third class citizens, and they're pretty much universally at the bottom of the totem pole within Imperial ranks. The one big exception is Thrawn and only because he courted Palpatine's favor and was already a commander in the Chiss Defense Fleet.

Discriminating against people on the basis of race rather than the content of their character isn't good for anyone.

>only tumblr could think that racism is bad!
You're in desperate need of deprogramming.

based racist /pol/lack

>You're in desperate need of deprogramming
Oh shit, it's clockwork orange all over again!

Reminder that the true good guys of Star Wars lost long ago

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No, that's reprogramming. You're already in a cult, user.

Neither side was right during TCW.

I am? But I never subscribed to it

Nah, they just wanted to peacefully leave the Republic, but they just had to get all aggressive and shit and start threatening them, and then, sending a bunch of slaves who are not even 18 years old

And it only took you 42 years to figure out.

This says a lot more about Star Wars than anything else. There's nothing to substantiate that the Empire is bad other than an exploding planet we never visit and the narrative placing Luke as a protagonist who wants his sister's rebel pussy.

The Seppies were a cabal of greedy capitalists who just wanted to ancap the whole fucking galaxy. Any actual government was a sham.

>There's nothing to substantiate that the Empire is bad other than an exploding planet
Yeah, y'know, except killing billions of people. Other than that, no big deal.

Diversity is good when it naturally happens due to people slowly merging together. Nothing wrong with some new people moving in and bringing their culture with them to share and down the line the existing and new cultures will melt into something better that was created organically. Trying to shove everyone together forcefully and attempting to forcibly jam together cultures and demanding everyone likes the mess that came out is what’s wrong.

lol in that case we need all the whites and blacks and asians to leave the united states because this isn't our "ethnic home"

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>Implying ancap is bad
Either way they had folks working on constitution and shit while corporations got tax benefits and supplied the army, if only sith didn't fuck up everything and jedi actually tried to uphold peace

Ancap is bad. Their version was especially bad. Reminder that they were gonna restart the slave trade.

Technically the “natives” should leave too seeing how their ancestors crossed over to America from Asia

>There's nothing to substantiate that the Empire is bad other than an exploding planet we never visit

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Nothing worse than Hutt, all in all I still blame Republics Senate for the war and jedi for failing at their job

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>tatooine niggers
>"warriors"

It's funny because if you look at history the Empires tends to be the multicultural ones, often with troops from all over the empire while the rebels tend to be locals, and thus confined mostly to a single ethnic group. Look at the Bohemian Uprising of the 1840s, or the Mau-Mau in Kenya in the 1950s.

>globalism will erase all of that
>euro-cucks protect more and more of that as muslims flood in
>globalism will erase all of that

That has always been the case dumbass.
Why do you think the Empire was consistently all human? They enslaved or oppressed non-humans.

>Nothing worse than Hutt
Oh, so a government sanctioned slave trade is no worse than illegal human trafficking? Both are fucking bad, dipshit, but one is thousands of times worse.

but user, you're ignoring that the entire seppie movement was a Sith plot to begin with.

>There's nothing to substantiate that the Empire is bad other than an exploding planet
>Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

Alright you got me, corporations are shady as always, but its not like building a literal slave army of living, thinking beings is much better

Which goes back to that anons original point.
>neither side was right in TCW

empire is mostly inner rim which is 90% human and human derivative, outer rim was filled with confederate scum who did warcrimes and far outer rim is all pirates and huts.

not surprising there would be some racial tensions but nothing really huge, mostly just where they're recutting form

Old palps doesn't give a shit and its never in policy, his best friends in parliament were a twilek and some other bitch, along with Thrawn some of his most competent lads were aliens.

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Dammit! I've been outplayed, still, Republic was going down the drain either way and there was a reason so many planets in outer rim decided to leave

wookies aren't sentient and thus can't be enslaved.

fuck off you no fun cunt, this is a star wars thread.

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Republic bad
CIS good

>if only sith didn't fuck up everything

It was the Sith who gave them the idea in the first place. Can't fuck it up if it was designed to fail in the first place.

These threads clearly discuss lore and universe-friendly politics.
You sir need to fuck off instead.

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on a scale of one to tumblr how assblasted are you that your janitor application got denied?

>Republic was going down the drain

By Sidious' design.

> there was a reason so many planets in outer rim decided to leave

There were no Outer Rim worlds that were part of the Republic (until Kamino). The Republic's borders ended at the Outer Rim. Only the Core and Mid Rim systems were part of the Republic. That's why Tarkin was made governor of the Outer Rim in the Empire's time as opposed to a single planetary system. He was in charge of the expansion into the Outer Rim.

StarWars thread & general when?

You can make one but it will probably be deleted and it will definitely be for the best. Yea Forums isn't ready for Star Wars generals again. Just look at this thread or this one or the half dozen ones the last few weeks freaking out about Leia smacking Luke in a youtube animated short.

>Blowing up billions of innocent people is ok because we don't know them.
What.

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For all we know there was just like 12 dudes on that entire planet and Obi-Wan is just a drama queen prone to exaggeration.

This is a joke, please don't take away my cheese.

>empire bad
>rebels good

Just pretend they're Saudi Arabia and were funding terrorists

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>halfway decent parts of the world - empire supporters
>3rd world shitholes - rebel scum

As expected.

I think that it's more that they have great style and generally have their shit together. Most of the officers of the empire aren't cartoonish villains, they're efficient, well dressed, well spoken competent leaders and antagonists. It's one of the reasons the villains of the new movies fall so flat for me. And anyone who doesn't secretly want their own Star Destroyer is a liar.

>Empire blows up rebel planet whose leader is a terrorist bad
>Rebels blow up Death Star full of innocent construction workers good

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Well yeah, star wars is WWII in space

Did you somehow miss that the Empire are all space nazis? For fuck's sake the soldiers are called storm troopers

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>innocent workers
Mundane evil is still evil, faggot
Ve vere only followink orders!

>every single person on alderaan was a rebel
>even the children and small babies
>the entire planet
>and everyone on the Death Star was an innocent little cherub
1/10, made me reply

Whenever this gets pointed out, the response is "reeee it didnt happen in the movies so you lieeee." And when they hired aliens there were always a clear distinction of it not being a savory job or treated equal, either hiring criminals or exiling them to out of view areas like thrawn and Qui. The latter of which lied to about her inventions being used for war machines.

Based Empire Chad nations unite.

This.
Fuck the rebels, and fuck Alderaan.

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>innocent construction workers
>working to ensure a giant laser is able to destroy planets worth of people
>on a platform literally called the fucking death star
Buy the ticket, take the ride.

The construction workers were genocided in nu canon. Old canon there was a mall and a service industry. It's not like Geognosian drones would go blab about the project.

Didn't the deathstar have a prison?
Were all the prisoners evil?

While those are mostly close to evenly split I do enjoy that Russia is so heavily pro-Empire. Still we can't really say much with the breakdown numbers of players for a Star Wars mobile game that wasn't even out on Android at the time. This is literally the breakdown of 5 million iOS douchebags.

It also explains why you almost never see aliens working for the Empire in the movies. Pretty sure the closest you get is that anteater looking fucker in the episode 4.

>planets worth of people
>traitors
>people

You think Arthur the anteater would be allowed on the bridge of the Executor?

Fuck off with your veiled /swco/ threads.

At least you actually read the source material and watch the content.

There is a book called Lost Stars that actually go into detail about what happened on the Death Star on the Imperial side. A lot of people, the people low on the Imperial totem pole, actually never knew what it was capable of doing and some imps that did see the destruction of Alderaan defected and joined the rebels.

empire being racist as fuck has been a thing since the damn 80s.

Of course. Didn't you know he was just Piett in a special gas mask that made him look like an alien? After years of Covert Ops he finally makes good with a promotion to captain in time for ESB where Vader bumped him up to Admiral after Ozzel failed one time too many.

Speaking of the empire and racism, why are there so many black women in the Empire in the new canon? Not that I'm complaining, but it's struck me as odd. I guess it's actually only like, three of them and one defected anyway (The BF2 campaign one)

>A lot of people, the people low on the Imperial totem pole, actually never knew what it was capable of doing and some imps that did see the destruction of Alderaan defected and joined the rebels.
As I recall, not a lot knew what it could really do and many of those that did figured it was meant to be a deterrent, never actually used. Those that stuck with it, in the main cast anyway, largely when a bit cracked from the dissonance of trying to justify it.

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But that's not true. Not true in the fucking slightest. And clearly not even fucking true to Disney's shitshow because FINN was black.

Why does this need to be said about the Empire?

Were people confusing who the bad guys in star wars were? The bad guys were the empire. Nobody needed extra incentives or reasons to think they were evil. Were people really saying, "Gosh I love A New Hope but I just can't figure out who the bad guys are supposed to be!"

"I mean, yeah they created a space station just for blowing people up, and killed a kids parents just to look for a couple of walking appliances...but I didn't know they were RACIST too!"
...So? Why is that supposed to overshadow all the other stuff they did?

>Were people confusing who the bad guys in star wars were?
hownu.ru

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Kinda used to odd numbers of imperial women. Daala, Oui Xux and Issard seemed to be the only ones I remember in EU until the wipe.

Because black women love long, white, powerful Star Destroyers.

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Evidently I appear to be dense as well, because I still don't get what you're saying here.

Because identity politics have turned a clear case of villiany into yet another method of taking advantage of the usual thin skinned mob on both sides due to TLJ.

you know race and culture aren't the same thing, right?
races are good. cultures are bad.

>white
That's Imperial Grey. Paltry white was reserved for the weak and inefficient Republic. These failures on your part have not gone unnoticed. Stay where you are, do not attempt leave your room or delete any files. A member of the Imperial Security Bureau shall be with you shortly to assess your loyalty rating and administer any corrective actions.

Chad, like a true Chad though, doesn't support either side. He's just in it for himself.

Old canon had the Death Star built by slave labor who were later executed. Also designed by a bunch of polymath geniuses who were kidnapped and forced to work out engineering issues and if they didn't figure it out on time entire cities on their homeworld were bombed. If anything, nu-canon Empire is far less shitty than old-canon Empire.

Setting aside that canonically the Empire/FO is strictly human while the Rebels/Resistance is humans and the alien best friend, when you're having to house and equip billions, if not trillions, of troops the last thing you need is the logistical strain of disparate physiology and biological needs. Humans, which in SW are a couple thousand genetically similar and compatible species apparently, seem to be the dominant lifeform in the galaxy regardless.

Y'all do know the Empire was based on the Nazis, right?

Why are we acting surprised about this?

>Why does this need to be said about the Empire?

Funny enough, they do hire aliens, so long as they can fit the strict, Imperial standards, and the second strongest Imperial political leader was Mas Amedda, a very alien looking guy who Emperor Palpatine trusted well enough to allow him to know he was a Sith Lord.

Even the video says the Empire has aliens in its forces, just not as much as the Rebellion.

>Setting aside that canonically the Empire/FO is strictly human
It's not, canon even says that aliens did serve the Galactic Empire.

It's a joke, don't think about it too hard. Maybe my pic unrelated confused the issue too.

More seriously, the answer is yes, sort of. It's hard to say whether people really think the Empire weren't bad guys or if it's a combination of a variety weird pushbacks. There's people who just kind of like to rp and instigate, who enjoy the whole aesthetic and tone of being pro-empire. Like the Zeonfags, though Gundam was meant to be a bit more layered than the OT. Others are just kind of reactionary. They resent such straight forward villainy and simply don't find it very effective storytelling, and thus begin to try and elaborate on ways the Empire vs Rebels wasn't so black and white, why certain actions could be seen as reasonable and justified, and so on. There's a variety of gradients, but I'm sure somewhere in there there's people for whom everything the Empire did that was obviously evil is not seen as actually all that bad.

The larger context of the Empire being racist was simply extending the Nazi imagery and metaphor. They were all humans in the movies, and the leadership was all white and clean cut and so on. Not because Lucas explicitly put nazi racism in there, but because that's the way you make the Empire look like Nazis. I don't know how common it's been in the new canon, but it was all over the place in the old one. Them being explicitly pro-human and purposefully exploiting non-humans for the benefit of the humans and especially human elite. A lot of elaboration was made on this, though I don't recall if the old EU ever really went as far as actual Holocaust analogs. They blew up things like the Mon Calamari, but not really just for genocide but because they were pro-rebel and supplying ships or something like that.

The racism wasn't really added to make sure people know the Empire is bad, but because it was considered a logical extension of their themes and creation.

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Stormtroopers were from WWI

Sage

>Dave, for fuck's sake, ISB wears white uniforms, as do the Grand Admirals.

>when this man makes up almost the entirety of your military might, but somehow you're a bunch of white nazis.
>please ignore all the alien leaders, diplomats, and etc that aided the empire. thx.

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Alpha canon, which means that for pre-Disney was just the first six films and Clone Wars. Beta canon, sure. But in regards to the films, we see more droids than aliens in the RA ranks.

Doesn't matter when the phrase was coined, it's widely associated with the Nazis in WW2.

This isn't uniforms, this is about big honking space doritos. If you're a Grand Admiral with Liberal Arts Degree then you can ask for special dispensation from the Emperor himself to let you paint some bitchin' sneks on the bottom, but that's it.

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The Empire stopped using clone troopers shortly after their wars with the seperatists ended. By the time of the OT, a majority of the troops they used were natural humans. Try again.

Only game for me where crushing rebel scum felt good, if only because they were the ones that felt big and imposing rather than the opposite.

>Were all the prisoners evil?

If they were Rebel prisoners, it was far more than likely that they understood the risks of fighting the allegedly all-powerful Empire, and a lot of people that what they were doing would be worth the sacrifice of taking them down.

>We're not racist
>We just use brown people as cheap disposable cannon fodder for our armies who are literally programmed to obey our every command to ensure they don't rebel against their conditions
>Oh they also have accelerated aging to ensure they can't live long happy lives even if their service does end, because we literally only bred them to last as long as they were useful as a soldier.

>and a lot of people that knew what they were doing would be worth the sacrifice of taking them down.

Clones were starting to be phased out around the time of the movies due to age and rebellions. So no he wasnt. Also most of those aliens in power were the toadies that sold out their own kind or others into slavery and were quickly abandoned when shit got rough. Few aliens willingly joined the empire and were treated like actual imperial citizens, most cases were like . Thrawn was a rare exception and even he was treated like shit in comparison.

>racism isn’t bad

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Racism is right and natural.

At the risk of seguing from what is a well thought out post, I want to point out that there's probably a good reason why people like the bad guys in both Gundam and star wars, and it's probably a bit mundane but -
In the instance of Gundam:
I think the Zeon mobile suits look cooler. Most of my gunpla on my dresser are Zeon, with a single GM from 0080.
I think the storm troopers from the OT are pretty cool looking, and so are a ton of their ships and vehicles. If we break it down simple enough:
It's because the bad guys, when people try to make them look menacing, just look cooler a lot of times. Either by accident or by intent.

And, if Gundam Sousei is anything to go by:
The studio that funded his gundam project insisted on having final say on the main character mech, whereas Tomino wanted to make the zaku II his favorite and exert his creativity on the zeon suits. His favorite mobile suit was the bad guys, hiding in plain sight, so to speak. So I mean it's not like there is this ideological attachments or confusion of what is right and wrong. It's just, well, the empire stuff looks cooler. People know they're the bad guys and they're fun that way.

Of course, them being racist raises some other implications in my mind. For example:
Would you let your kid wear a KKK robe as a Halloween costume? A nazi officer?
Would you be ok with them wearing a storm trooper costume from star wars? Buying a lego set of an AT-ST?
I mean, personally I'd be cool with it because let's be honest. Those are all really cool. But by leaning and emphasizing the racism angle, it seems like now you have to worry about kids adopting racist values because they think the racists look really cool.
Doesn't help that they do in fact, look really cool.

>rogue one marketing: the empire is a white supremacist group

>rogue one comic: krennic be smashing ebony puss

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The Old Republic used the clones in their wars. The Empire phased them out to bring in regular people. For all the evil the Empire did, actually creating a slave race of people to fight and die in their wars wasn't their doing. They just indoctrinated young people with propaganda.

>Of course, them being racist raises some other implications in my mind.
The proper term you'd use would be speciesist. The Empire wasn't speciesist, a lot of people within it were, but it wasn't a policy within it. The Empire also didn't care if you were human either, if you were in the way of their progress, then prepare to be BDZ'd.

>krennic be smashing ebony puss
>Not Galen boypussy
Wrong.

You're saying a lot more here than perhaps you intended to. Firstly:
>If they were Rebel prisoners
If. We already knew that anyone with any questionable loyalty, rebel or otherwise got imprisoned. So, most assuredly, there were probably plenty of prisoners who were not affiliated with the rebel alliance. Just people who may have been political enemies, dissidents or just regular citizens who may have been in the wrong place at the wrong time and said too many unkind things of the empire.

>a lot of people that what they were doing would be worth the sacrifice of taking them down
This is far more concerning to me. Sacrifice can be noble when the decision to make a sacrifice is made by the person making that sacrifice.
In this instance, it would be other people sacrificing people who had no say in whether or not they wanted to be sacrificed. Maybe they really wanted to be rescued. Maybe they were imprisoned from positions where they had no expectation that they'd be captured and executed by the empire at any time. And again: Maybe they were just civilians who just didn't like the empire much who had nothing to do with the war and wanted nothing to do with it. And now you're going to sacrifice them for your cause, despite not wanting to be a part of either side.

>Marketing isn't an ever-churning chute of bullshit and/or contradiction
What world do you live in?

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>I want to point out that there's probably a good reason why people like the bad guys in both Gundam and star wars
Well yes, it's also because they look pretty cool. But there's a common mentality of people liking to side with villains in fiction and in fictional, detached environments like hobby groups or events. It's a safe, healthy way for people to engage with these subjects.

The difference between Stormtroopers and the KKK or Nazis is that while the latter were real, the former are not. Fiction has always been a way for humans to deal with their vices and imaginations in an environment where no one gets hurt. People have been in a moral panic about such things for centuries, but ultimately fiction is fiction and most people do understand that. There's appropriate contexts to explore our darker desires in. Sometimes people are a bit off, or legitimately just kind of fucked, and fix up the two but on the whole there's no reason to worry specifically about Star Wars in this context. It's more a symptom of the larger problems humans have that have led to the nonfictional problems.

Humans like order. We have an appreciation of a good aesthetic and strong personalities. Appealing to these things has always been a way for certain leaders or groups to parlay their way into power. It's a simple fact of how our minds work, there's really no escaping that and trying to stamp down on people who make fake Stormtrooper legions of yell Sieg Zeon at cons won't do anything about that. There's never been a link people violent videogames and violent crime, and I doubt if there's been a study done of Empirefags and actual fascist groups, but I bet it wouldn't find any causation either. At best, it's that the latter also like the former, not that the former is likely to be the latter.

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>now you have to worry about kids adopting racist values because they think the racists look really cool.
No one adopts racist values because the racists look cool.

I think it's also pretty funny that Rogue One gave us one of the most genuinely sympathetic Imperial figures despite him being a petty bastard.

Based Krennic BLEACHING inferior negro wombs

I've always preferred the Federation suit aesthetic, giant robotic soldiers with futuristic armor and weapons, Zeon shit always looked too organic and freakishly inhuman for me to see them as anything but monstrosities.

>For all the evil the Empire did, actually creating a slave race of people to fight and die in their wars wasn't their doing
It was literally approved and actioned by the guy who later founded the Empire, solely to ensure he could found the Empire with minimal fuss.

>The difference between Stormtroopers and the KKK or Nazis is that while the latter were real, the former are not. Fiction has always been a way for humans to deal with their vices and imaginations in an environment where no one gets hurt. People have been in a moral panic about such things for centuries, but ultimately fiction is fiction and most people do understand that. There's appropriate contexts to explore our darker desires in.

As much as I really agree with you strongly here, I can't help but see some arguments made (usually by click bait and the like if we're being honest) that this is not the case.

re-reading the post, I made a big mistake here:
>it seems like now you have to worry about kids adopting racist values because they think the racists look really cool.
That probably wasn't the best way to phrase what I was trying to get across. I don't think that is or should be a serious concern, but rather that some people have argued that. Usually in bad faith or just to get clicks, as I said above. Still it seems unfair of me to mention, so I can't help but think that maybe it's not such a good point to bring up.

>not letting your kid dress up as a nazi
What a buzzkill you are.

The Republic were the ones that voted for more clones to be born and used them in their wars against the CIS, where they were told to fight or be destroyed like malfunctioning equipment.

We the viewers know what Sidious did, but in-universe, it was the Republic that used slave labor to fight for them.

The original gundam was designed by the toy company funding tomino's animation studio to appeal to kids as much as possible. They found the white, red blue and yellow would appeal to kids the most.
Though, I think gundam is unique in that for the most part almost all the mobile suits are pretty cool looking in my smelly opinion. I'd be happy for ANY gunpla set, barring something like a ball or guntank. Not a big fan of the OG gun cannon's color scheme either. ...Possibly a few other questionable suits as well, but most are solid, I think.

To be fair, Zaku has the most kino mech design in all of Gundam.
Even someone like me, who prefers "western mech" designs such as stuff from battletech over the "giant samurai" look of gundam, I can't help but to appreciate how neat the Zaku looks.

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being "racist" is normal

Globalism won't eliminate that stuff. It's our cultures that are bending over to appeal to the rest of the world. Not saying we should stop globalism but rather we should assert our culture over the middle East and Africa rather than letting them integrate us.

Even if that were true, that doesn't make it good.

>that have sex with animals
hey hey now this is not on the same level as the others

So was the rebel alliance before RotJ

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Hell, even in nuWars, Noghri were still an empire thing.

This

>captura
fuck off, spic

Battletech has its roots in Eastern mecha though.

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doesn't make it bad either.

it simply is.

You could make the same case with homosexuality. Sure, it may be "natural". Doesn't make it good.

Come on, man, he's pure Aryan. It's just his great grandparents and bunch of their friends had to flee damnable persecution in Europe during the 1940s. Specifically '45 and after.

Well, racism is bad. Sorry.

Zeon is cool because they're essentially America. Earth government controlling colonies = no representation. They just went about their revolutionary war in a bit more extreme method.

>Old Republic vs CIS

so...the Jedi were trannies?

There's no need to apologize. Being wrong is also normal.

Gundam is pretty much an allegory for WW2. The republic of zeon is an allegory for the axis powers. It's not even subtle about either of these.

I'm not apologizing, I'm expressing my sympathy. It's not your fault you're retarded.

>Why aren't my villains completely one-dimensional? I don't want to waste any time thinking, just tell me who to boo at

When will they stop it with the bullshit and finally give us some Empire centered content?

I've seen toy aisles in the US and they are all filled with Vaders, Kylos and Stormtroopers way more than with Reys and Finns.

That is such a misunderstanding of the point I thought you clicked the wrong post at first.
Maybe you did.

>rogue one marketing: the empire is a white supremacist group
That was just made up bullshit out of butthurt from Trump winning the election

Old canon was that blowing up the death star didn't matter because geonosians have no souls

IIRC, it wasn't that the Republic voted for more Clones to be born, but rather the Clones were already being produced and trained (under the order of Palpatine) and the Republic just agreed to use them since they were already there. Palpatine is the only reason the Clones exist in the first place because the rest of the Republic never knew they were being made until they were pretty much finished.

Also, after the Empire started phasing out Clones, they instead turned to kidnapping children and brainwashing them into being wannabe super soldiers. Which is in effect far worse. At least with the Clones, fighting is what they were literally made for. But Stormtroopers are made up of mostly kidnapped child soldiers turned brainwashed slaves.

As someone who literally prefers the Empire over the Rebels (cause they look cooler), the Empire in and of itself is completely evil right from it's inception.

Every war story is a freakin WWII reference

thats been a thing since the old eu where the empire was all human and men and the one woman there slept their way to the top and the race of blue mary sue aliens

When social media stops being a thing so you don't have to deal a loud, vocal minority who will scream from the rooftops if you release an Imperial game that has you Empire through and through.

Empire sitcom never

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>Zeon is cool because they're essentially America.
>Zeon: "WE WANNA BE INDEPENDENT! WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES!"
>EF: "Okay, whatever."
>*EF refuses trade Zeon, since pretty much every colony cluster that isn't Side 3 is theirs, that means that Zeon is super isolated*
>Zeon: "WTF YOU CAN'T DO THAT!"
>EF: "We totally can, if you want to be independent and self-sufficient, do it on your own dime."

Then Zeon proceeds to blow up a shitton of colonies and drops one of the colonies they gassed on a bunch of Australians. I mean, America has had a history of being a bunch of cockheads, but Zeon was throwing a bitch-sized tantrum.

You make this seem like a problem

i remember seeing nazis as a kid and thinking they where cool and used to pretend to be one in play fights im not even white lol

what's up with Central African Republic and Tanzania, though?

The word you searching for is "instinctual"

That's black israelite level of retardation and the most far fetched whataboutism i ever seen

No, man, seriously. Back the fuck out of the continent, back the way you came, I don't care if the bering strait is flooded now, build a bridge or whatever, but leave this land BACK in the hands of its original native population, the noble yeti!

Also chupacabra! Maybe. I mean I'm not 100% sure that dude isn't just a vampire gray alien who really has a thing for goats. Goddamn, I do not want to ask /x/ about this...

If they were Empire prisoners held on the fucking Death Star, they were pretty much guaranteed execution or a lifetime of forced labor, getting blown up in the span of a second is a blessing to the alternative.

I'd rather get out alive, but if there are no other options, I'd die happy giving the finger to the twats that imprisoned me, who possibly had a fate worse than death waiting for me.

I'm sure you could fetch a pretty penny for a Wookiee pelt on Dosha
Battlefront 2 doesn't follow any of Iden's bullshit or hero cameos wtf ea make some more games you cheap fucks (come on she didn't even save her home planet. Darth Vader wasn't behind her, with all the stuff she pulls in the game you would think she would be able to take over her fathers bridge and shut down the weapons) instead we follow a death trooper who survived Scarif and becomes Imperial Master Chief and help trains a new generation of death troopers. If he was on Endor Han, Leia, and even Chewy would be dead. He would have ripped chewys arms out he's so strong. He can still become a pilot too, lands on yavin iv and destroys the rebs escape craft and goes all Friday the 13th on them.

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to be fair if you were a construction worker having built the death star would look good on a resume

Yetis are chinks you wannabe.

No, yetis are bigfeets that migrated to Asia. Check and mate.

Only good Zeek is a dead Zeek.

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The Third Reich should have won WWII. Their ideas and culture are far superior to ours.

That's all true. But it doesn't change my mind; I still think their mobile suits look cool.

>Dude, what if we had a government system where every department and bureau has multiple redundant and competing instances that are all competing for resources, an economy propped up entirely on IOUs and dependent on regular influxes of new capital that can only be acquired by invading other countries, scientific and technical development stripped of most theoretical applications, a weapons development and procurement system that is a nightmare of favoritism, feature bloat, and managerial incompetency, and also Himmler planning on living out his LARP magical realm and trying to turn the SS into his own knightly order complete with castles, fiefs for his underlings, and polygyny

>Munns and Nemoidians are monopolists who screw over other races for monetary gain
>Durge's race, if violent and insane, can take on an entire army with just one of them.
>The Hutts entire culture is controlling planets to enslave for their criminal empire.
>Kaminoans judge every member of society based on genetics and if you were inferior you were either treated like shit or aborted.
>Dathomirians were Dark side cultists.
>Not to mention all the other dangerous races like the Anzat and Killiks

I think the Empire had good reason enough to be human exclusive.

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Man Yea Forums really is becoming /pol/. There's like 3 or 4 threads about multiculturalism, jews, libtards being cucks et cetera. Is this cuz of Trump?

But user, racism is good. That's how all civilizations grew and became better. How do you not see this?

Imagine Thrawn browsing deviantart, furry sites, Tumblr, Fanfiction.net, Those types of Cringey Japanese Mangoes and doujins, and good ol' Yea Forums as a method of learning about Earth.

>That worried face when Thrawn would look up your old and forgotten deviantart and fanfiction.net account to better understand you.

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>dude, what if we didn't have Dan Schneider

It's Yea Forums. You've obviously not been here long.

I like how this is all about how important aliens are when there are so few Sequel aliens they can show, and none of them are important.

How many of you /swco/ fags am I going to run into at celebration next month?

based and droid pilled

cringe and cuckpilled

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>Thrawn has several cringe compilations

Yeah, not agriculture or anything, racism. Sure.