How's Your Webcomic? #545

What are your bad [comic] habits you're trying to change?
Alt Q: What was something that surprised you while working on your comic?

*Please add your comic name/link to your first image post

>/hyw/ CONTACT SHEET - add your webcomic site, contact information, etc
docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

> DRAWING PRACTICE and TUTORIALS
Ctrlpaint.com
drawabox.com/
line-of-action.com/
quickposes.com/en

> STOCK IMAGES and REFERENCE
People: senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: shutterstock.com/
Character Design: pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

> FONTS
Blambot: blambot.com/
Create your own: calligraphr.com

> WEBSITE
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: tumblr.com/theme/39018
Dos and Don'ts for starting a site: pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
Promoting your comic: miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

> ART and WRITING RESOURCES
makingcomics.com/
mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics
cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf
courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
.../invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
.../invisible_ink_part_3.pdf
pastebin.com/BSVaT7uQ
/a5UmYWhT
/eTqaESTc
/pVkAE4uX

> PODCASTS and VIDEOS
chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
John Cleese on Creativity: youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5oIIPO62g
Capeworld's Podcast: youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6isqHY5kZzHK6Gviy18SHXnz8hdrkgkx
Terrible Writing Advice: youtube.com/channel/UC3ogrx6d9oohf6D42G44j1A

>Brush Packs
CSP: mega.nz/#F!5xlV2IzJ!bg8BZB-oYaVrmD31S3fJHw

Previous thread

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Other urls found in this thread:

tapas.io/episode/1272284
pastebin.com/mR5FDf26
tapas.io/series/The-Concord-Initiative
concord-initiative.cfw.me/
concord-initiative.smackjeeves.com/
twitter.com/TheZoneUniverse
zone-universe.tumblr.com
warosu.org/ic/thread/S3523624
clipstudio.net/en/functions
clipstudio.net/en/functional_list
floobynooby.com/comp1.html
youtube.com/watch?v=rIX_6TBeph0
youtube.com/watch?v=aK1gxBz1FtE
darkplacescomic.com/?webcomic1=the-silver-chain-page-1
tapas.io/series/Squires-for-Hire
romanpenscomics.blogspot.com/
romanpen.newgrounds.com/
romanpen.tumblr.com/
twitter.com/TheRealRomanpen
tapas.io/series/Inkspill
youtu.be/4HlqaXcueWY
youtu.be/lglo_-goCMU
youtu.be/-WHkjmEV5go
etkcomics.tumblr.com/post/183230175664/the-devilfish-duo-art-by-iacopo-calisti-letters
tsoi.thecomicseries.com/comics/120/
seluda.cfw.me/comics/
tapas.io/episode/1347240
desuarchive.org/co/thread/105311926/
docs.google.com/document/d/1eOPhXfsa0VwvJu1VnXhlswMBb2WY6BUuCL6IEXN9ev8/edit?usp=sharing
youtube.com/watch?v=8zXRk69a7-c
kickstarter.com/projects/805169961/rikomenci
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

chilly. i like it.

i wish the anons who've stopped releasing comic pages could at least say they are no longer working on it so i can have some closure

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That would mean admitting defeat! it's easier to just leave things unfinished forever
I'd never do that with a comic, but I've done it with other things.

Almost done this next page.

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That's actually pretty good. It reminds me of the artstyle from the disney Hercules movie.

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For that one beautiful user who told me he would proofread my pages.

tapas.io/episode/1272284
This was almost done next one will take more time.

Still reading Racoon Girl.

Whats happening to him indeed.

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Few questions about drawing a webcomic while I sift through the links in the OP

>Pros and cons between endless scroll format and pages?
>Is there a specific size ratio I should be using?
>My sketches on the tablet come out a bit pixel-y. Am I supposed to start in an oversized size and then shrink it down after drawing or change my brush settings?
>Good websites to upload it to?
>Forums to join to discuss it?
>How long does it take everyone else to do a page worth of work?

'want it or not' should be '(whether you) like it or not' assuming she's talking about HIS desires

That's all the text on this most recent page, or did you want me to go ahead and proofread the whole comic up to this point? If so I'll put that up on a pastebin or something so it's not gooning up the entire thread

>Am I supposed to start in an oversized size and then shrink it down after drawing or change my brush settings?
the first one. Though I have actually seen people using tiny, anti-aliased brushes in order to draw at display-size, and it worked great. The majority of people draw huge (usually 3 times as tall and 3 times as wide as the final web-size product) and shrink down, hiding pixels and small mistakes.

Nice, and this last page I posted, is it okay?
>Proofread the entire comic
Would be amazing but id feel like im making you work a lot for nothing.

>Pros and cons between endless scroll format and pages?

Endless scroll is popular on Webtoons and other mobile webcomic reading platforms like Tapas. However, the downside is that printing endless scroll comics into a book is more difficult.

>Is there a specific size ratio I should be using?
I generally go with a size that uploads easily on Tapas and Webtoons, and scale them larger for print.

>Good websites to upload it to?
I recommend Tapas and Webtoons because the large user-base has potential for more readers on your comic.

>How long does it take everyone else to do a page worth of work?

I have never timed myself, but I manage to get an 18-page chapter of my comic, Oni x Fox, done within a month, and a chapter of Color Seekers done in less than a week.

No mistakes there, though I do suggest you cut down on the use of vertical word bubbles. It's stylish, sure, but we can't read vertically like blessed nihonjin so you have to start writing your words
one
after
another
like that, and it feels staccato.
>a lot of work for nothing
As long as you'd appreciate it, that's all I need.

>What are your bad [comic] habits you're trying to change?

i tend to rush things cuz i get bored easily. that and i have a lot of ideas as of late.

>Alt Q: What was something that surprised you while working on your comic?

it was...relaxing in a way. maybe i should do that often

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Finished this page!

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yesterday's strip

>What are your bad [comic] habits you're trying to change?
I need to stop putting off drawing my comics until the day they're due. I get closer and closer to missing my deadlines.

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>Pros and cons between endless scroll format and pages?
- you can post on tapas/line webtoon.
- scroll format seems lazy because each episode is just a few panels = less work when compared to an actual comic but also less substance for the reader.
- you won't be able to print it physically.

- advantages of comic format is that there are decades worth of past knowledge from previous artists to learn from including all their techniques.
>Is there a specific size ratio I should be using?
no.
>My sketches on the tablet come out a bit pixel-y. Am I supposed to start in an oversized size and then shrink it down after drawing or change my brush settings?
find what works for you or copy someone else. watch videos or livestreams.
>Good websites to upload it to?
i'm honestly not sure. just post it on the most popular websites you can find. if people like it then they'll share it for you. try not to limit yourself to one social media platform either.(i can't follow people on instagram i don't have a phone REEEEEEEE)
>Forums to join to discuss it?
i only use discord and twitter
>How long does it take everyone else to do a page worth of work?
4 hours minimum and upwards to 10 hours done in pens

I'll take that, absolutely. Tarzan and Hercules aren't such bad influences--and I wasn't even aware of them until they were pointed out! I'm confident it will get exponentially better, too. I'm in this for the long haul, my man.

He is succumbing to/tapping intoتحرر, tahrir--liberation.

In the endless horizon of Ardu-Alhalzun, home to Dazirak and his fellow Hilzuni, there are those born with a semi-uncontrollable, primal, raw, and extremely unstable well of thaumic energy. This is Tahrir, liberation from the mortal coil and access to the Great Helix. To the Hilzuni, it is a testament of one's power over the chaos of the universe. To the rest of the world, it is a nightmarish and tremendously frightening ability for Hilzuni to defy death and perform legendary feats of physical and mental strength.

... Ok, he's getting provoked into a psionic rage, fine.

>What are your bad [comic] habits you're trying to change?
I give up way too easy on background things that aren't crowds of people. I need to invest time in environments, especially since everyone and their mother has trouble with them. That's a niche I could fill if I can get my act together.

>Alt Q: What was something that surprised you while working on your comic?
I am still floored by how happy it makes me to finally make this thing. Yes, I believe in my idea, I think it has franchise potential if I can manage to rise to the occasion and figure out the path. But beyond that, if I am not working on this thing, I am not really comfortable or satisfied. I've only realized how restless I am by making this comic.

Thats so ridiculously kind, thank you user. I definitely would, though dont feel pressured to do the entire thing. Im not paying you here.

>vertical bubbles
alright yeah, thats just poor foresight from my part when i design the bubbles

>What was something that surprised you while working on your comic?

That people would like annabeth, i intentionally make him as offensive as possible.

That features of my main girl characters would finally develop my fetishes because of how people would point out how certian things were hot about them

btw: how can i accept the fact that no idea is original?

What are your art goals anons, and how far away are you?

>startup website has millions of writers
>supports webcomics but you can count the number of artists on your hand
>creators support the posting of webcomics but haven't done any promos around it
>they're in my city
>keep applying to frequent open positions but rejected every time
>want to make a comic good enough to get their attention so i can get a well paying job related to my hobby

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Eh, it didn't take long. and it was a good excuse to read the whole thing through.
Basically 90% of your problems is never using the apostrophe key. I didn't repeat when the same word appeared repeatedly without an apostrophe.
pastebin.com/mR5FDf26 here you go
You can expect some fanart at some point too.

>*Please add your comic name/link to your first image post

Its called Rococo's Atelier. Its on rococo.smajckeeves.com and tapas.io/series/Rococos-Atelier

I haven't updated on Tapas yet because I wonder if I should put it up on a per episode basis, that means 40 pages at the time.

This is just a transition page between scenes but man, it took a lot of work for some reason. I didn't make it on time so the post work is just the basics.

How important are your deadlines to you?

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I AM SO DOGSHIT
I'VE SPENT EASILY 10,000 HOURS ON ART AND I'M STILL SO TRASH
HOW THE FUCK DOES ARTING WORK
FUCK THIS SHIT, JUST GIVE ME AN ARTIST GF TO DRAW MY STORIES

steps to find an artist:
>make twitter account
>search random shit like "artist+writer+collab"
>repeat until you find an artist that's willing to collaborate(a lot of them are) or just find some 20-something webcomic artist and dm them
>get ready to prove that you're a writer worth collaborating with

Hope it wasnt too bad. Thank you from the bottom of my soul.
I see it was the apostrophe key in many cases, the sad truth is that I edited on paint and it didnt had the apostrophe there so I decided to ignore it almost altogether.

As for the katakana, Im a weeb but not THAT much of a weeb, I dont know nor I would add random japanese. Its the little girl speaking like a toddler.

>You can expect some fanart at some point too.
It would make me so happy!

Thank you for the extra art-corrections and for your work again.

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You know that feeling when you're trying to make art because you want attention, and not because you love art? This is one of those feelings.

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MS paint lacks the ability to type an apostrophe?
Glad to see you posting in here. I've always loved Artborn even if I have some trouble understanding it and its complex system of reality whereby they're aware that they're being drawn by an artist, but what they do affects what the artist has to draw, and the reader of the comic doesn't always see it but the girl wants to be an artist too?

post art

>>Pros and cons between endless scroll format and pages?
God fuck jesus no, not even once. I get that mobile platforms prefer it, but you should at least make sure your pages are a consistent size within that format. That way, preparing them for print will be slightly less impossible. Having a backup archive on a normal page-by-page layout is also handy. Tapas gives me hives.

>MS paint lacks the ability to type an apostrophe?
Yep, when its a new, downloaded font like CCWildWords. It just adds a white square. Ill try adding speech on photoshop from now on, guess that will easily solve it.

A tentative finish to the next page.

>*Please add your comic name/link to your first image post

This is the Concord Initiative.
In 30 words or less:

Young, troubled king tries to stop decline of Early Modern Empire with state sponsored, propagandized spec ops team. He pulls talent from lawmen and criminals. The situation degenerates.

tapas.io/series/The-Concord-Initiative
concord-initiative.cfw.me/
concord-initiative.smackjeeves.com/

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I'll explain how it works when I get to the "World Building" segment that's going to be coming up soon.

There really is no script for the story, so essentially what's happening in the comic is my character's having their own free will, and in a way I have draw what they do.

Commisan wants to be a good artist like her mom and dad. She thinks if she tries hard enough it will happen...

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Happy Rista.

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I just love your artwork. It's so professional. If the Internet wasn't killing them I'd say your comic would be right at home in newspapers

are you sure you downloaded/installed the right thing? it works fine for me

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I think formatting is different in foreign language versions of OSs. I notice a lot of older text documents will have a glitched symbol for every apostrophe.

I chuckled, thx

Probably this. It happens with every font I download, no matter from where. It didnt happen on GIMP tho.

that's really flattering to hear, thank you user!
thx for laughing

I make new banner

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I tried the free trial of Clip Studio Paint and for some reason it will not open at all. It shows up in the task manager, but never does anything.
Is there a fix for this?
I wanted to try it since it was popular, unless you guys can suggest something better.

Thats honestly great.

give it a second. it's a slow-opener. and once you do, save a shortcut to JUST clips studio paint, rather than the whole clipstudio suite, because that sucker opens even more slowly

I really like it haha

how slow we talking, because its been several minutes since my last try?

When's the baby due

>What was something that surprised you while working on your comic?

That working on illustrations before the final writing (as you can see, I'm working on an illustrated fic) can give me the time to think of how the future plot (I've got the outline of the whole thing) can be improved.

Anyway, I did a redraw of a Milo Murphy's Law episode "Spy Little Sister" and put it in the context of The Zone Universe.

I'm working on school work, which is why work's getting slow. You can check the updates at twitter.com/TheZoneUniverse or zone-universe.tumblr.com

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eh.. end task it and try again

It was me who suggested this right at the end of the last thread, we don't have to do this but I thought it would be fun if everyone did an OP image with their characters and call it How's MY Webcomic

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Jun 29th :)

Mite b fun

and thank you :,)

i just figured it out. It was that damn anti-ransomware bullshit in windows 10.
>russians hack a few computers
>BETTER MAKE SURE NO EXES WORK AT ALL UNTIL YOU JUMP THROUGH TWELVE HOOPS AND WE WONT TELL YOU WHERE WE HID SAID HOOPS.
>and you are going to do it for EVERY. SINGLE. PROGRAM. YOU. WANT. TO. USE.

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yeah windows 10 is an ass in the pants.

I'm not sure if I said so a few days ago, but Oni x Fox will be back next week with a new chapter!

On another note, I've been making good progress with Space Pack roughs. Had to redo a bit of it so far, which is making it take a bit longer. Here's a very quick sketch of one of the characters getting blasted by.... a laser?

Sounds fun!

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from the thumbnail this looked like a photo of a strange tropical plant

Oh wow, it totally does, haha!

Anyone else (not CF) miss Kiwi Day N?

No

Mad Magic Day

>What are your bad [comic] habits you're trying to change?
The dreaded 3/4 view head portrait.

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No context panel from my Space Pack roughs

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colored the characters from earlier, so I'll talk about Crimilde now
Crimilde was a child who got lost in the woods and two kindly gay witches raised her themselves, but she never learned witch magic
she knows all about brewing potions and creating magical objects, but she was never told how to cast any magic, so she relies on her supplies a lot. her hat is bigger on the inside than the outside and she can pull it over her body completely, there's also supplies in there like herbs and vials.
she has a witch nose and green skin because she grew up on a witch diet, and she continues to follow her parents' dietary habits hoping to eventually get her first witch wart

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Spring breeeak.
Time to spend it alone like every spring break.
I know homestuck's actual style once you get past the first couple of pages is actually really difficult to ape, but does anyone have an idea as to some styles that I could use as a reference for a starting point? My artwork isn't the greatest, and while I would love for it to improve over the course of the comic, I'd like it to at least remain consistent within periods, and trying for something that looks like K6BD from the start would be an absolute clusterfuck.

>Pros and cons between endless scroll format and pages?
As others have stated, endless scroll can be unprintable.

>Is there a specific size ratio I should be using?
Depends on where you'll be publishing your strips; check the guidelines for each site.
That said, see below *.

>My sketches on the tablet come out a bit pixel-y. Am I supposed to start in an oversized size and then shrink it down after drawing or change my brush settings?
Draw large, then scale down.

* I would suggest working at a size suitable for printing, then reformatting the page depending on where it will be published. If you stick to a strict grid, eg 2x3 or 2x2 panels, then that will be easier to rearrange into a vertical scroll. Avoid wide panels, and keep everything the same width.

>i can't follow people on instagram i don't have a phone
You don't need a phone/mobile device to Follow people on instagram, you can create an account and do so from desktop. Insta isn't set up to allow Posting from desktop.
However: if you can enable Web Developer mode (or equivalent) on your desktop browser, you can emulate a mobile browser, and thus post to Instagram from desktop.

Latest wip. I need to scan the first chapter and color it all over again, but I still can't draw the strength to do it...

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What are good personalities to pair up romantically with a cheery hippy? Other than the same personality of course.

I already have a lot of cheery/grouchy and laid back/disciplinarian couples so I really need to change things up a bit. It's just difficult to do since I've never really written a character like this before (I guess the best way to describe it is like mixing Honey Lemon, Shaggy, and some nordic alien together) while having that character be in a plot relevant pairing. Fortunately the other person's personality is still in the works so I have a bunch of flexibility (under certain guidelines) but I really need something that could spark some chemistry.

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Is this a Pokemon webcomic?

Someone who is evil.

The next comic ill make will be about a giantess girl. Not actually intended for fetishes.

>Is this a Pokemon webcomic?
Not exacly, but there will be monster in some way, just not pocket ones.

Cute! Looking forward to her debut

remember that time bulma farted on kuririn? (thats my weirdass 3am drawing for the night)

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Brap posters should be hanged.

my only regret is not drawing fart clouds out of everybody.

How we get here is the big mystery for CH 2

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Not gonna lie, I kinda do.

I think I just randomly found that comic today. What a coincidence.

What else would it be about?

Not planned yet, but I believe it would be fun to make a fantasy story with a giantess protagonist that doesnt focus on lewdness at all.

This is just my opinion, but I probably would not post 40 pages at the same time, if that's what you are thinking. You would likely get a lot more visibility posting a page or two at a time, with at least two updates a week over on Tapas.

Wonderful looking page, by the way.

Not sure why, but your comment reminded me of the Xanth book series by Piers Anthony. A (few?) of his books had the main character as a giantess, and there was little to no lewdness in it at all despite them being invisible naked giants.

All this time, it was diet. Who knew?

how about a responsible and nervous person
the cheeriness of the hippie as well as her general hippiness makes him nervous like she must be ignoring something important, and anyone so happy must be missing something
but when things are going well, he's happy to clean up her messes

toriyama would be proud

Would be interested in knowing how that happened
my man piers

>Would be interested in knowing how that happened

Started reading Racoon Girl. In one page two guys kiss and a comment was complaining. Others shat on the commenters own comic so I checked it out. It was called Kiwi something. No clue if its the same. They said something about a girl being eaten.

Yeah that's it
not the best way to find a comic
how was that complaining? it was sarcasm about how gay webcomics are

How do you all go about actually writing your stories?

Mr. Morton is the subject of the sentence
and what the predicate says, he does

Its okay, I used the word complaining because it was the easiest, I dont actually remember how the comment was. Its true its expected to find gays kissing on webcomics.

I create like 10 cool scenes and 4 characters and then I chain em.

like a really really really bad script
the real full in-depth story will always stay in my head because i can't write

Rg creator here, this is the comment for ya, he did write more where he got pretty blasted but i deleted them off the site, tbf i did go a little ham in my response but he had been annoying me a lot with his comments on my site anyways then he said he didnt like me anymore kek

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prolly shouldve mentioned theres only that gay couple and a les one for main-ish character everyone else is straight and I refuse to be in your face, they'll do everything the straight couples will do no more and no less, so he was kinda whining for no reason

>he had been annoying me a lot with his comments on my site
Genuinely sorry about that, didn't realize. I recall only leaving positive comments prior. I like(d) the hell outta this comic. Cute as fuck.

30 page scripts for each section. Then I have people proofread them. Or post vague character questions in these threads.

Word to the wise make a timeline and outline your shit beforehand because god damn if you're a perfectionist you will be rewriting a lot and you need to avoid plot holes and other issues. Writing 30 page scripts before writing an outline was just begging for trouble and this goes especially true for stories that require specific dates like those in scifi settings.

dont like, dont read man you do you

either way i've been trying to not be lazy at drawing the hairstyles on my characters, kept doing just a flipped thing before

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Learning how to draw asymmetrical hairstyles from different angles is hard as balls, good on you. Also nice to see those Link bangs.

>a comment was complaining. Others shat on the commenters own comic so I checked it out. It was called Kiwi something
LMFAO
Oh man, that's our Coldfusion

i can only see memories in black and white, am i retarded

That just means your brain has a sense of drama.
if your really really old memories are in sepia, that clinches it.

How important is faith in God to being successful in comics?

couldn't hurt. it's in my experience that the big guy doesn't just make your plans succeed, he's got his own plans.

It's a good thing. Even better when you don't make a big deal about it, either.

A good writer can draw meaning and themes from their own lives but still tell a universal story. There are lots of comics out there with a religious author and upon analysis you can see why, but it's not in-your-face about it.

Of course, it doesn't help any that part of the Comics Code Authority forbade mention of religion in comics, further muddying the waters about who in the industry was practicing or not.

How do you write a script

I accidentally did an undertale while drafting this weeks page.

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Faith in the transcendent is important to being in general.

slightly-monstery folk are just kinda wonderful, aren't they?

What's undertale?

the game nintendo ripped off of to make earthbound.

user, you latex balloon
Go play it or find a letsplayer you truly love, and get through it (it's not long) before you look anything else up and ruin the experience. it's heavily ruinable.

you took the bait.

I have an idea for a series, but I’m wondering if I should just make it a webcomic or find a way to publish.

In this situation I'd rather fall for it than let someone's fun videogame experience get spurled.
a webcomic is a great way to practice basically any other medium. it can become a storyboard for film or animation or anything

Dumb newbie question. I bought clip studio paint PRO on sale today 27$ on Mashable by the way. How different is it from the 250$ version can I still do most of the stuff?

I wanted to see what you guys thought about some early character designs I was working on.
The idea I had was a super sentai parody where this guy would be a substitute power ranger that would fill in on super sentai teams so that their mechas wouldnt be missing pieces. His robot could turn into an arm or a leg (or anything else aside from a head).
His design is really rough and generic right now. I kinda want him too look like an old washed up captain falcon.

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their site outlines the differences better than any of us could.
also, it's on sale today? yo, Ardi. You were just saying you were gonna buy it when it's on sale

That's really clever actually. There's even precedent for that among combiner transformers, there's a lot of them who basically turn into a long, jointed block that can be an arm or a leg
I like his design. He looks more like a washed-up Viewtiful Joe at the moment, I suggest adding some more accoutrements like epaulets and a belt with a holster

Thank you.
I had a general overview of the story. Essentially he would be hopping along between various teams such as a power rangers parody, a voltron knockoff, a gao gai gar expy, and even faux transformers (the mecha is based of combiner wars transformers)
He ends up causing chaos due to his inability to work on a team.
He never forms a mecha's head because he has a phobia of leadership which is his main character arc. Eventually he would have to use his robot to frakenstein a patchwork combiner out of a bunch of rejects from other sentai teams.

>He never forms a mecha's head because he has a phobia of leadership which is his main character arc.
interesting and deep! I assumed because.. yknow, he can't. his is a limb. Clever design, by the way. as much as obviously this art isn't exactly professional quality, you did cleverly work out how the transforming would work. I can follow that perfectly. As you get better at keeping proportions consistent, I think you're going to find you want the pelvis to be the elbow/knee hinge though.
>Eventually he would have to use his robot to frakenstein a patchwork combiner out of a bunch of rejects from other sentai teams.
that sounds beautiful.

First you need to know the general plot of the section you're working on. Then you need to know the characters.

I write my first draft scripts like you would a play with certain text formations like italics denoting actions or background information. Like pic related. Occasionally I'd add questions in highlighted text for certain groups of proofreaders to check out and delete them periodically when I send them to other people (a control group) who don't need to know that information.Then when your guinea pigs are satisfied (mine usually aren't so I'm still in the writing stage) you move on to paneling scripts which are somewhat more in detail for each panel and scene. If you're not an artist yourself this will be imperative for communicating what you want done (I'd draw the stuff myself so I don't usually go through this stage but it's better to be prepared in order to know how many pages you'd need to convey a scene and determining what to cut and what not to cut).

The only problem from experience that I have is that I tend to be a stream of consciousness writer who drags character conversations on for way too long so I recommend restraining yourself and resisting the urge to expodump. Dialogue should be to the point in conveying plot through the lenses of different characters.

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>sarcasm
"I was only pretending to be retarded!"

sardonism, then.

WIP o the next page!

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"I was only pretending to be...mentally disabled! It's different."

help I am completely unable to judge my own art despite it being clearly subpar

warosu.org/ic/thread/S3523624
>the d/ic/ks hated her, for she spoke the truth

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You do realize you could absolutely snowball to five figure views and three figure followers in a matter of months on Tapas if you just released the pages you already have (starting from chapter 1 page 1) very slowly at a spread out 2-3 pages a week schedule, right?
Every time you post a new page your comic gets bumped to the fresh front page on Tapas and since the quality of your art is very, very high for webcomic standards your readers would quicky accumulate with each bump. It's not even any extra work since you can plan out schedules weeks in andvance with just a few clicks. But if you just throw out entire chapters none of that is going to happen.

I swear to god, it's so frustrating to see the most talented hyw artists being absolutely clueless about how to properly release webcomics. I mean, you do want people to read and enjoy your comic, right? Isn't that the main purpose aside from the mere gratification of getting work done (which is nice of course)? You're now at least getting into multihosting so that's something...

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The differences are minimal, what's in EX that's not in PRO mostly comes down to extra publishing features with a couple extra negligable features you wouldn't notice were missing.

Short comparison
>clipstudio.net/en/functions
Long checkmark version
>clipstudio.net/en/functional_list
(long list has debut, which is the version bundled with wacom tablets)

Super short version, the only bonus features worth mentioning/using are multi-page story formats (with 3D print preview), Unlimited animation frames, and extra line extraction (for converting photos and 3d scenes to screentone or whatever). There's also a multi-view for the 3D doll posing you can only use with EX, but I've honestly never used it.

>lol you can't prove God with the scientific method so don't try to fool me with your "opium for the masses" I'm too smart for that, I learned about life through youtube videos and rick and morty, she's only good because her parents gave her all the resources she needed to succeed

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This but kinder. Release 2-3 pages per week. Or one page per day.

Yeah it’s on sale for 30$ for the next couple hours and I searched for a 10% off code you can use if you have never bought anything from Mashable . I’m not sure how often it goes on sale.


Thank you for the run down. I’ve always wanted to do something with art and comics for fun and it seemed like a great tool. Don’t think I’ll need the publishing as I doubt they will be internet worthy and don’t plan on trying to turn another hobby into a profession again

Even though her constant practicing must have contributed heavily to her skill I kinda love this story, she's like a cleric but with painting.

Is the EX edition on sale too? I want to buy it but it's like $100+ every time I check

Just checked and it looks like it's only for PRO this time around.
Why do you want EX?
(Not judging, I have EX and am curious)

ill judge your art user, its probably worse than you so if i say its shit then its actually really shit

I still haven't revisited the complicated fight pose in the next Laserwing page but I'm using Popkas to practice. I'm multitasking!

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No, please don't

Thanks! But my concern is more about ME not being able to discern whats wrong just by observing. Like, one gets used to the shit he makes. Also I already posted my stuff a lot, dont wanna occupy the threads. Maybe next time.

You're mirroring your work, right? When you've flipped it your brain stops recognizing it as yours and you can spot your flaws better.

Good jorb.
Kinda surprised you went with the default look for the miis.

Is there an easy way to refine a character's personality? I got one in mind, but can't refine it further

can you give an example of what you mean by refine?

>cliched character in mind
>only has basic personality traits and can't think of anything the character would do beyond that
>want to make character non-cliched, and make that character have a stronger personality that isn't two dimensional

Tell me about your character, what are they like internally, what are they heading for, how do they react to the world around them. Also don't be afraid of jargon, I can guess at them from context.

Female genie that acts like Veronica, not Betty, but even more spoiled and vain.

anyone got some story boarding tips?

floobynooby.com/comp1.html

Line art mostly done for the next page. That first panel took a solid hour to look like what it is, which is hopefully reasonably believable. Really frustrating pose for my brain. Not quite convinced with the dark cobalt text. I have to figure out what psionic rage speech looks like.

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Draw them making faces. All kinds of faces. Draw them reacting to things. Draw them reacting to YOU. Write/sketch a very short scene where they have to figure out a puzzle, like an escape room or something. Give them a hobby that doesn't relate back to the story they're in and imagine them enjoying that hobby.

Got it. depth and dimension.
Okay you have to look hard into all the whys. Why are they like that, how'd they get that way, what else does that affect
as well as questions like 'what are the limits of that tendency? what would push them to that limit, and what would make them reconsider?'

Okay but are they the main character or a side one? Does the camera follow them? Without spoilers, what sort of obstacles would they have trouble with? Are there any obstacles that they'd HAVE to surpass?

If they're all powerful an easy one would be that they can't do a thing because they don't want to break another character's trust.

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Main character, with the camera mainly focusing on her. Obstacles would mainly be magic puzzles she got into trouble with, transforming her into different creatures or objects.

That almost writes itself. She acts flamboyant and fashionable because she only gets so long out of the bottle, and feels like she has to make a huge mark on the world while she has a chance
she's been alive for centuries but nobody's heard of her, and she's worried nobody ever will.
also maybe she's worried about being dominated since that's kinda what the whole bottled djinn thing is about, so her take-charge personality is to make sure she's the one running shit, a la I Dream of Jeannie

I was going to name her Jeanie, but I should probably change the name.

I'm being harsh because he's in such a great spot and sabotaging himself needlessly. But then again he remade his first chapter like three or four times when usually webcomic artist would let the quality just naturally get better over time or add more content so he's an atypical webcomic creator in that sense and very stubborn. He's also very straighforward about all the lewd and waifu stuff in his comic which I very much respect.

Here is page one layout of my comic.

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I got a couple of questions before starting out with mine, on a "broad strokes" level.
I've been considering starting a webcomic partly to boost the IP of the tabletop RPG I'm working on, a game that's mostly about interpersonal relationships and overland travel in a sci-fantasy environment (think something like Endless Legend). But I've got a few questions first:
Should I make a single, long, plot-driven story comic, various smaller comics showcasing different scenarios and simpler adventures, or just a series of situational one-shots? What kind of exposure and interest can I expect out of these dynamics?
How many "main" characters are too many? I was thinking 5 to showcase each race and archetype, but I can dial it back a bit if that's too big a roster.
Are there any other ttrpg comics I should check out? Do they ever showcase the mechanical side or the players, or just in-game events?
I've got okay to neat art, nothing fancy or overly dynamic (pic related), but I end up taking a long fucking time to finish anything, should I dial back on style and details if I want to release things in a timely schedule, or should I adjust the schedule to my times instead?

Sorry if these are too many questions or if they get asked a lot, I just haven't really revisited the idea of making a comic in years.

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yeah that's been done sixty times plus one more time.
howbout Janey? It's almost the same joke, but hasnt been done. Plus it sounds like 'jaini' which some thing is the original etymology of jinn, a female spirit from pre-islam iranian mythology

I took your advise and tried to give him a little more character and tried to focus on his anatomy a little bit.
I added little hand and foot medallions in place of the plain circles, as well as a shoulder pad. He still feels a bit generic. I'm trying to find that little certain something that makes him pop.

I half assed the coloring with the fill tool. I wanted him to be brown because i honestly couldnt think of anything sadder than a Brown Power Ranger. I am still trying to practice my line work. You can tell i still chicken scratch.

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Well yeah, but that's more of a pitch than a plot.
Not at any specific point in time, do they have any opinions or relationships with other characters? People get weird about the possibility of stolen ideas so don't feel the need to tell me but it's good to think about.
Because I just realized I forgot to ask, what genre/what mood?
What IS her power level? Genie from Aladdin, wizard that doesn't want to be overt, whatever the joke needs? No hate on the last one.

Overarching goal? How do they start the story? Can probably spitball a lot off of the opening scene.

Dark red and bold.

Normal yellow balloons tainted with blue on one edge.

Grey, spotty balloon and the letters have stubby projections out the side, like they're speaking through radio static.

Something that evokes a raven's voice, deep and oddly synthetic
youtube.com/watch?v=rIX_6TBeph0

A visual transcription of how the Dark Brotherhood door makes you feel
youtube.com/watch?v=aK1gxBz1FtE
I swear listening to this too long will give you a headache, it's amazing.

What rules do Concord Initiative balloons follow?

long comics are best for RPG stuff. people are going to want to play their own similar adventure, not just a bunch of vignettes. that said, ... also do vignettes. maybe in between chapters.
There's a billion highly acclaimed tabletop rpg comics, I don't know how you aren't already familiar with at least 3. They usually either include the mechanics or some in-story equivalent to them
>is 5 too many
nah, but you're gonna be tempted to add more, so start with 1 and work your way up nice and gradually. trust me.
>one of each race and archetype
I suggest you play with that a bit just so it's not obvious and boring how diverse they are
>that art
snoogans. I like it. you can cut back the levels of shading to just one or zero periodically, and save the full shading for important times and closeups.

I made up a brown ranger when I was a kid. his dinosaur was andrewsarchus. 1993 was a hell of a drug.
This looks nice. I'm not going to pretend your art doesn't still need a lot of work, but I love your ideas so I'll be interested in seeing where this goes.

Im going to keep working on it. Im in a unique right now where i have plenty of time to focus and a desperate need for a hobby.
I really appreciate the encouragement.
the first arc i want to do with him is him getting hired by a power rangers knock off that have really lame dinosaurs, save the T-Rex. However the T-Rex is relegated to an arm when its obviously supposed to be a head. The Brontosaurus is the head because its the biggest and therefore the leader. All Tad does is point out how lame and wrong their mecha is in the midst of the fight with a Kaiju. Destroys the city. Then gets the T-Rex guy kicked off the team. He ends up crashing on Tad's couch and becomes his sidekick.

I would have a problem with so many of the mecha being so abnormally modular, but there have been series that actually did that legitimately, so that only gets a raised eyebrow.

I like Janey, I'll use that.

>Not at any specific point in time, do they have any opinions or relationships with other characters
I have a hard time designing characters, and I could barely sketch some out for her. So, I haven't decided yet if I wanted to add some random animal familiars or whoever summons her.
>Because I just realized I forgot to ask, what genre/what mood?
mainly visual gags, so comedy. I need to practice some animation chops with an OC, fleshing out a script and a board would help that immensely.
>What IS her power level? Genie from Aladdin, wizard that doesn't want to be overt, whatever the joke needs? No hate on the last one.
Same as Genie, but she can't escape.
>How do they start the story?
She gets trapped in the lamp/object.

Admittedly the mecha are pretty modular since i had to fit the hand foot thing as much as possible, particularly for the lead up to the franken combiner.
However his robot can fill in for literally any part of a larger one, so there are shorter more humorous arcs where he fills in for stranger parts. Like the Gao Gai Gar parody is made from about 20 vehicles all controlled remotely by a single person. When one of them is in the shop, Tad gets hired to fill in as a codpiece.
The Gurren Lagann parody has him fill in as the entire body with a Lagann expy perched on top.

There were also going to be arcs where he isnt allowed to drag along his robot. Such as one where he buys a motorcycle for the sole purpose of marketing himself as a Kamen Rider, despite being a fat slob, and not knowing how to ride a motorcycle.

Top quality idea. I've heard some appealing sentai parody ideas, but this is really sitting high.

Looks ugly as always

The writing, I feel like I write worse when I'm on Yea Forums. What sort of headspace were you in when you were doing this?
>an emotia a creature born from a human's intense emotions.
I'm not sure if there's an actual rule about this, but putting the same/similar words in two concurrent sentences feels clunky. I also think there should be a dash after 'emotia', maybe a semi colon;

>The creature bestows the human powers and becomes their companion.
>Not all creatures are friendly, though, but in the end they are stuck with their human until they die.
Functional but doesn't have a lot of flair. Possibly imagined- it does make me think of manga translations.
I also believe 'though' or 'but' are superfluous.

I feel like doing a webcomic to boost something unrelated is a bad idea does anyone care about Aikonia beyond the fact Awkward Zombie was drawing it?, but if you're committed to it:
>story driven or one shots
One shots- Variety. Bad ends. Non-standard gimmicks. Tension because characters can actually die. Recurring characters are a welcome surprise.
>how many MCs
I actually don't know! 4 is standard for fantasy, but the only time I can think of something having too many was the Dragonlance books, which was, what, 6? 8? Just give fifth ranger a simple personality and some good lines and it should be good.
>Are there any other ttrpg comics I should check out? Do they ever showcase the mechanical side or the players, or just in-game events?

darkplacescomic.com/?webcomic1=the-silver-chain-page-1
Variety! Bad ends! A tiefling teaming up with a gnoll!
I don't think gameplay affecting story has ever turned out well.
>Sorry if these are too many questions
Don't be, the big worry would be walls of text being boring and no one talking

Refining implies narrowing something down but it seems like you somewhat want to expand the depth of your character in particular. And honestly this is dependent on what purpose the character serves within a story. Do you want to use them as a metaphor? Do you just want to use them for gag-a-day comics? Do you want to use them as an expression of the human condition? A character first and foremost is a tool and a vehicle for exploring a concept and tools should be appropriately tailored to the medium and story at hand. Especially in regards to tone unless you're trying to intentionally subvert something.

To elaborate on what some other people were saying while adding my two cents I'll use an example off the top of my head;

>comic character that wants to be a doctor so he studies a lot because doctors saved his life and he wants to help people.

The problem is we only have the barest understanding of why he wants to go down this path in particular to help people and it's really just a slight explanation in his backstory. There's certainly a why and because there but it's only surface level. The more 'whys' you can answer and the further down the rabbit hole you can go the more dimensions you can discover.

So what about the doctors did he like?
>they help people
No. What did he really like? Did he like how analytical they were under pressure? Did he like how important everyone else treated them and want to emulate them and their success? Does he like the process of medicine without the humanity like a House wannabe? Is he the opposite and wants to help people without really understanding what he's doing?

And if he wants to help people, why?
Does he see potential in others and wants to live through it? Does he take a utilitarian approach and not really care about individual happiness but the health of people as a whole? Is it a form of projection because he's too scared to solve his own problems?

etc etc

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I’m so close to page 20! Once I finish the next page I’ll start uploading these somewhere for the world to see

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>I was USING that!

Wait, I thought of a good one- blue text, capitalized, with no word balloons. Words are either bold or smudged out to the sides.

I can see why that pose was frustrating, it's one that's hella difficult for anyone, least of all a muscular guy that's hunched over.

Thanks guys, this helped a lot.

That's what makes these threads great

Thanks for the tips, lads

>Wanna make a bee themed robot
>Don't want it to look like a bee.
I do want a bee hive involved, where it launches bee drones.

>a beehive
That could work. Maybe a beehive on one arm, the rest of it looks like a beekeeper.
Or maybe a bee-tamax tape for a body and bee-atle boots on its feet.

Anyone else unironically miss bones?

>bee-tamax tape
>bee-atle boots
Please... no more...

Maybee

Happy to help!
You deleted something and took a while to post this, anything you want to ask but don't know how to phrase?

>DON'T want it to look like a bee
Oh, oops.
Spider with drones sticking out its back like missiles?

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Fuck no, and please stop asking- I want the time between him inevitably returning and divaing off to be as short as possible.

well the beekeeper's mask would hide a beehive hairdo, so that only leaves nice manageable bee-cups
whom do you think you're talking to? don't reply to it.

I have to keep on sketching out ideas and notes for right now. Although, It might be good to be able to play off another character. Would I just make her the polar opposite of the MC to make her interesting or someone more similar? It'd probably be a familiar if I decide to go through with that, I like Salem's personality so it'd be similar to that.

Absolutely. He hasn't posted anything to his DA for a month and a half and his twitter is just him sharing youtube videos that I don't give a fuck about. What happened to Wolf Arm Slut? I was going to give that comic a chance based on the name alone and it never fucking happened.

a jinni with a familiar? the jinni basically IS a familiar.
You could certainly make her opposite to her master (I assume that's who the MC will be) but I think it's actually better if they're both forceful Veronica types and they actually butt heads.
But another character to bounce off of? ... what if she's been alone so long she's talking to her bottle? making snide comments to it about how it needs to watch its figure, got too much badonkadonk.

>the jinni basically IS a familiar.
I know, I'm just messing around with ideas rn

That's the best thing to do. Like that John Cleese video up there says: you basically need a creative phase where you spurt copious sticky ropes of ideas, followed by a refractory period where you take stock of the results and choose which of them to wipe with a tissue and throw away, and which to raise for 18 years.
I mean that's not how he put it, but

I'm finally done with the line art for page 6. Now onto my favorite part; coloring!

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>characters
Uhh...
>Dennis Crocker/ "FAIRY-GOD-PARENTS!" type. The genie doesn't want to force them off because they're basically harmless.
>any super serious, engaging character from a series where people compete for a wish. The genie cannot take them seriously.
>Supernatural hunters who the genie is gaslighting for lols, pretending to be a monster
>A unicorn that the genie wants to catch, for reasons/ancient grudge. Despite being outright stronger they can't beat the unicorn's gimmick
>Technically, because of the story Memory, genies are canon to the Cthulhu Mythos. So there's a fun opening.
Also fun bit of trivia- Apparently there were 2 genies in 1001 Nights, the Genie of the Lamp and the Genie of the Ring. The Lamp genie's wishes couldn't affect the Ring genie because they were stronger. They actually operate on power levels.

Is that...is that a business suit with a cape attached?

Jesus christ this took a while. I might have overdid it on the environment a scooch. Hopefully I can finish the backgrounds before friday.

>What are your bad [comic] habits you're trying to change?

I notice I've been drawing a lot of my scenes as just waist-up shots. I really want to start experimenting with different angles and frame my panels in visually interesting ways. Then again most of my pages have been dialogue heavy so maybe I can branch out once a chase scene starts.

tapas.io/series/Squires-for-Hire

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Possibly dumb question, would
>What? No! I'm wearing sabatons!
work better as
>What? No! They're armored!
I know what sabatons are but it's still a 10 dollar word being as the punchline

>What are your bad [comic] habits you're trying to change?
I get stuck in the writing phase and I give up

Time to test these bad boys out.

Strangely enough, the original pose that I gave up on was far more straight forward. He was standing up and we were looking at him straight on from behind. I have a real problem with static poses, which may explain why everyone in this comic has an exaggerated way of moving. I guess it helps me with visualization.

Panel 9: Maybe have the tail come from the bottom left of the uppermost balloon in that stack of three, so it leads out of her expression. Alternatively, the top left of the bottom balloon, so it doesn't cut across the figure.

Panel 12: Have the tail of balloon 2 go over the top of balloon 3, so it's clearer it points to Gwen. At the moment it points at and is blocked by balloon 3.
Have the tail of balloon 3 actually point at Warwick's face, instead of the air above his head.

Alternatively, move balloon 3 into the space in the bottom middle of the panel (might need to nudge Gwen over to the right). That way the flow runs anticlockwise, from balloon 2, over and down Gwen, and leading out from her foot back to Warwick. Adjust position of balloon 2 so it's nearer and pointing to Gwen.

Ah yeah Panel 9 is a pretty easy fix thanks. As for panel 12 I completely forgot to change that. I definitely need to have it point to his mouth. As for gwen's bubble I was considering it loop behind bubble three and point at her but I think it'll read better if it just arcs over bubble 3 like you said.

Bamp.

>finding out you drew a hand backwards 5 months ago
god sometimes i'm so glad no one reads my comic

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I love this guy.

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lucky.

:c

maybe the story is just so good that the art was glanced at before moving to the next panel

I'm going to do 400+ hours of drawing this month. I'm sorry if I die anons. It was fun drawing with you.

Why that little amount?

The EX version has stuff for managing multiple pages of manga for publishing and you can do full animations with it, so it's just extra stuff you don't need.

>tfw someone tells you they're a big fan of your comic
im gonna make it bros

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So I was looking up Medabot designs for some inspirations and I found this. I'm a fan of the series but dam, there are some here I haven't seen before.

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And it will only compound brother!

Yeah, I try that, it helps only a bit. There is still something missing. For example, look at this art. Its one of my favorite artists. The little girl looks ridiculously simple, yet it is so effective to me. When I look at my art, I tried to draw something way more complex, yet I can feel it looks bad, or at least, it looks amateurish. And If I wanted to draw a little girl like this author, the end result would look like a child scribble. So complexity and simplicity arent exactly the things that define a good artist. This artist can make eyes with two dots look great, my perhaps-overdesigned eyes never look as good anyways. I guess its all about practicing a lot.

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I feel like knight folk would say sabatons with each other

I try to imitate the poses and movements of my characters a lot. It really helps solidfifying the mental image of poses and movements even if what you're doing irl actually looks nothing like what you're envisioning. I'm sure it could help reducing 'positioning mistakes'.
I used to feel like a total moron for this habit until I learned a couple of years ago that professionals do this to some degree as well.

This is a very typical observation. Many beginners will strive for a style like this, thinking it's more attainable than highly complex anatomical styles. But that's a fool's errand.
I think the right term wouldn't be level of complexity but level of fidelity. Nagabe could obviously create very complex, detailed drawings, if he chose to. When you take away the details, what will remain are extremely refined, deliberate lines. So really, low-fidelity styles require the same or nearly the same skill tree as high-fidelity styles. For professionals, the choice is more about economy, less about ability.
It's why comics by Nagabe, Yoshito Usui or Taiyo Matsumoto may seem like something attainable when really they're almost as out of reach as, say, Kentaro Miura or Murata...

The best of us do it
might be someone in here, i recall similar advice about the lips

an average of 12 hours a day.
user, it's important to eat, sleep, and take one day off out of 7

yeah they kept doing those, there's like 5 generations of em
is that like, Chambraigne?

Sorry I haven't uploaded any Eris and Alley lately, Ive been busy working on my first actual animation. Don't worry though, my next one will feature them. FROM THE MAN WHO GAVE YOU ERIS AND ALLEY, COMES THE HARROWING TALE OF A YOUNG MAN TRYING TO SURVIVE ON THE MEAN STREETS OF POSSUM HOLLAR...."LEEROY: A TRAGIC TALE"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyGUTe8SyKw

romanpenscomics.blogspot.com/
romanpen.newgrounds.com/
romanpen.tumblr.com/
twitter.com/TheRealRomanpen
or search "eris and alley" on FB

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just tear my lines up senpai

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Time to make merch?
Libs did that for roof girl around this time last year and didn't do too badly. Some people kept getting angry, saying his art was bad and he didn't deserve any recognition. But he absolutely did.
I miss Libs, I wish he'd post more often.

I do the same thing, i'll move my hand around to see which thumb it is in that position.
On the other hand, I think mastering a simple style helps you out with the more complex ones too, gives you a foundation.

Huh. Well, I'm not gonna say I enjoyed it, but I do think it was good and I want to see you doing more
Keep an eye out for sales on a better quality mic too.

iirc he got conscripted by the south korean army

...

Well, okay. I guess I'll have to give you that one.
But really, Nihei's change in style is just a symptom of him going more commercial. Look, he's already at volume seven. And he still vastly outclasses most sci-fi comic creators in Japan. At his peak he was probably the best sci-fi comic artist in Japan and only rivaled by Jodorowsky, Moebius and maybe two or three Americans internationally. So he's declined quite a bit but still making excellent content by comparison.

Reminds me a bit of a couple of prodigious American directors who went more commercial over the years. Aronofsky, Tarsem Singh, Villeneuve and a few others. Their works have become more accessible and arguably less intricate but they're still made in the same spirit for the most part...

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>I think mastering a simple style helps you out with the more complex ones too, gives you a foundation.
I'm not so sure about that. I guess it depends on what you mean by style. I'm pretty certain the vast majority of artists known for 'simple styles' such as Schultz and all the previously mentioned Japanese artists learned how to draw 'complex' before developing their own styles. It's a repeating pattern. Top-down switches are probably much more easier than bottom-up switches. It just seems reasonable. But I could be completely off and a professional or art-professor might tell you the opposite.

I'm looking forward to this so much!

Not that my skill is anything to cough politely into your krelbow at, but I don't think my path is uncommon, a lot of us grew up trying to draw like cape comics, and all the focus on muscle lines distracted from good proportion perspective, etc. Once a simpler style was attempted, it was easier to recognize the limb lengths, how to widen things as they get closer to the camera, etc. Then those same skills transferred right back to more detailed drawings.

i've had to start doing that
i've also being using 3D model posing software

it annoys me when people can draw like shit but make it look nice
dude probably isn't trying

what's up hyw, I inked three pages in two days and my hands hurt, tell me it was worth it

1/3

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2/3

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Is /ic/ a good place to get critism or is it just a bunch of crabs?

and 3/3, share your opinions

nightmare

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it's really not good
I love how kooky this comic is while still feeling like a believable setting. I think the grey guy has done too many drugs. like 3 or 4 too many drugs.

"I smell coochie"

It's crabs. It's very rare that anyone will actually dissect a piece of art and point out the flaws. Responses are typically insulting and vague, a whole lot of "give up". Some of the standout garbage I've seen is people refusing to critique sketches or incomplete drawings, because "If the piece isn't worth your time to finish then it's not worth my time to review". That's fucking retarded because mistakes can still be identified and corrected in the early stages of a drawing, and identifying piece ruining errors right away saves a lot of time that could be spent creating something better. I've had friends draw well shaded, excellently detailed drawings that looked like shit because the neck was too long, or the eyes were off center. Mistakes that should have been caught in the very beginning.

But just the smugness of the place is pungent. It's like everyone there is Bill Maher and they just have to bust out one liners in lieu of having a discussion. I saw someone write a typical venting message, omething like
>tfw haven't done X in months and am trying to get back in the hang of it
Can't remember what he was talking about, but I remember his only response was "If you can forget it then you never really knew it". That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. That person's never heard the expression "He's forgotten more about X than I'll ever learn".

I could list more and more petty examples, but you'll just have to take my word for it: every thread is like that. It's just artists getting told vague, unhelpful things and told to give up by people who don't post art of their own. Not saying you have to be an artist to have an opinion, but there's rarely a reason to trust what you're told on /ic/. I've never seen anyone on the board demonstrate what they're talking about, and I've never seen anyone fix anyone else's art. I've seen people on Yea Forums make simple edits to proportions and shit like that, and that isn't event this board's purpose.

that'd be after going under the table

I agree with everything you've said. Once in a blue moon I'll lurk in /ic/ and a vast majority of what goes on is exactly that belittling petty bullshit. The ever rare instance of someone offering help gets immediately shut down and told to "post your work" as if knowing how to art professionally is mutually inclusive to knowing when something is off. It's stupid.

I'm trying to remember the exact word for it, but the entirety of /ic/ as a board is a bunch of people trying to proclaim something is out of reach while simultaneously pulling anyone down trying to reach up. The mentality and actions of the vocal majority is unhealthy. The way they force it all onto others is (surprise!) incredibly unhealthy. It's outright abusive.

About the memory thing:
People with depression, ADHD, anxiety, etc. all have a common factor of having memory issues, even more than than the general population. It's not something you can control. Sometimes you remember, sometimes not. It's not, nor has it ever been, a symptom of "not knowing" something.
Hell, I'm absent minded and I've literally forgotten my own name and age more than once. Doesn't mean I've never had my name down pat or not know my age, it's just a derp thing.

A while back I did do a couple of minor redlines and fixes for the /beg/ thread and the questions not deserving their own thread (or whatever it was called) and you could really tell which people would appreciate it and which just wanted pats on the head and called a good boy. I don't do it anymore not just because I'm mediocre in art, but I could actually feel the stress of some the expectations there. It was like you either had to be perfect or not exist. I have my own problems, I don't need to add that board's mentality to my list.

This post is Coldfusion

that castle is very pretty. Really amazing detail

that's not untrue
straw stop fucking spoiling my comic

Swing and a miss.
You can tell because I call it 'ADD'

>tfw misunderstood genius
>tfw my writing is too complex and vibrant for webcomic fans

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privilege*

Post writing bitch

Does anyone have advice for drawing female faces?
I read loomis and its made my faces noticeably better, however i can only seem to draw dudes. Seems like no matter how hard I try, my faces are always overtly masculine. Even when i add tertiary sexual features like eyelashes, lipstick, etc, i just wind up with a drag queen.

I even tried to go super anime and wound up with a down syndrome child. How the fuck do feminine faces work?

>Even when i add tertiary sexual features like eyelashes, lipstick, etc, i just wind up with a drag queen.
Probably because those are masculine
Make the chin and jaw taper. make the nose and lower face small, and the eyes and cranium large.
>I even tried to go super anime and wound up with a down syndrome child.
pointy nose, not flat.

- less details, not more
- reduce mouth-to-chin vertical distance (

Maybe just show us what you have. We won't make fun of you even if the faces are uggs.

heres a better question
how the FUCK do you even design a female character at all? from scratch too

Gee, Togashi! How come Jump let's you take two hiatuses?

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>cute
>plain
>has energy but tires out
>nothing particularly stands out unless you look closely (this is an important thematic thing)

i should have clarified, im talking about actually drawing them out, how do they look like in the first place?

You uh, like, imagine them in your head from nothing but later realize it's actually just the main actress from that movie you really like but it doesn't matter because you're so bad at drawing nobody recognizes her :^)

Draw the lines shaped like them! Or just show us what you got, because I don't understand the problem
This also works for coming up with original character voices and mannerisms.

i dont have anything
there is a female character that exists in writing only and needs to have some sort of visual design

Give her a short green dress
do you need some more? instead of answering me, answer yourself.

im not an expert but first I draw a circle, then I add the eyes, and then the hair
the hair is really important

I was so engaged in discussion, I forgot to shill, how about that.

tapas.io/series/Inkspill
Here's the latest episode. I might have posted this before, maybe. My backlog works kinda weird and things get parked pretty long sometimes.

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1) Draw circles
2) Add hair
3) new finished design!!

Pretend you arent popping a boner at this design.

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my new waifu is lovely

Who are the best /hyw/ waifus?

Some people are pretty hot for Sasha.

the female elf on ice

oh god oh fuck I've never been so aroused. user please, tell me, does she have a body?

post picture

From the comics I read: Kage, then probably Zo. Also the eyepatch mom from Rococo.

Though to be honest Kage looks more like friend material than love material.

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She LIKES you user.

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>goal is to make waifu for other anons
>nobody noticed her

>strong arms
Gee willickers. Oh golly. Hoo boy. I'll be right back, I have some business to attend to.

Who is the unlucky girl?
Tfw some anons lust on my main girl and she is a lesbian
But ill never tell them cause I dont wanna break their hearts

Been a while since I posted in one of these threads.
I was hoping to start posting a short 30 second animation every weekday (maybe start an ongoing narrative) but most of the feedback I've heard suggests people would rather have longer videos on a weekly basis. What do you think /hyw/?
youtu.be/4HlqaXcueWY

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You mean like, make 30 second animations every day? Is this even possible?

preciate it

I like all of what you put out, as long as you give a fuck, I enjoy watching the fucks getting gived.
This one makes sense as a short video. It's a simple premise: don't do anything online where everyone can see it, including your gramgrams.

No, he'll just burn out if he does that.

Finished this page!

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I use a sort of digital puppet for a majority of the footage. It only takes me about a day to make one of these puppets so I can make sure the videos don't get too stale.
On most days I rely primarily on the puppet with a few additional elements to keep things interesting:
youtu.be/lglo_-goCMU
I usually make these less animation intensive videos so that I can spend more time on more complicated shots like the one in the Facebook video I posted or this one:
youtu.be/-WHkjmEV5go
And I guess it's technically just 4 times a week as I'm trying to spend one of those streaming.

What is your comic about?

fag

I see, that makes a lot of sense. I am going to do a 3 times a week schedule from now on, although I was thinking about doing the bulk releasing because my comic is a long form story and its better to read multiple pages at the time. That and my hang ups about organizing them into chapters.

On a practical side though, is it better to upload individual pages as individual episodes or is it ok to just edit the existing episodes and add pages?

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don't want to say

Oof.
What made you think that?

did I just spend an hour drawing her when I could have just shown you another picture or a comic screencap?
Meh, good to stay in practice.

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It's an episodic story about a bunch of kids going to school to become heroes.

Basically the story is structured like a kingdom hearts game, where the disney worlds are there own story, and then the epilouge advances the main story, until the end of a game where the story advances a lot.

The comic is divided into parts, part 1 goes from chapters 1-20
This part basically introduces the characters.

If you don't want to deal with shitty art, then read the west tree recap that comes right after chapter 20

Part 2 goes on from chapters 21 to right now on chapter 32
Mainly focuses on developing the character sarah, and dealing with the serial killer known as "The prohibitioner"

But right now the story is on it's annual "background characters" chapter where all of the background characters little plots move foward, some of the plots are tied into the main story, some are just for fun.

A combination of several things, I don't want to give it away because it might make CF more self conscious instead of posting naturally. If your post isn't CF, I'm betting the post you replied to is.

Anyways, it's not so bad, you two would probably make decent friends.

>I'm betting the post you replied to is.
strike two!
What was that argument the other day you thought I was participating in?

God I wish CF would just consistently keep his fucking trip on

Were both me, not CF.

>Anyways, it's not so bad, you two would probably make decent friends.
I don't associate with pedophiles.

You probably do

got a billion dollar idea:

Instead of oni girl and demon hunter guy, oni kid and demon hunter lady. Maybe for the next time.

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I'm sure they'll meet up with someone like that down the road.

Trillion dollar idea:

Oni girl and Demon hunter lady.

I'm gonna do some shilling of my own shit.

etkcomics.tumblr.com/post/183230175664/the-devilfish-duo-art-by-iacopo-calisti-letters

I made a site to post comics I'm writing when they're done. I found someone to do the art for a short 12 page story, and my friend's doing the letters. I actually don't know what I'll do next and maybe I jumped the gun.

Please roast my horrible lettering so that I can be motivated to try harder.

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Turning every single one of their interactions into a cat fight.

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>horrible lettering
you used a font..

I clearly don't even understand what lettering actually is. I need to try harder.

Fund it.

It can't be every single interaction or the bit will get old.

Just have most of them go slightly awry.

>lettering

Did you make that word balloon in MS paint?

Seriously asking.

You did fine.
Or rather, the person who created the font did fine, and you chose it well.

100% Yes.

Looks good. Not my type of story, personally, but it looks professional and clean.

the bubbles are hurting the art - give the bubbles thicker borders with anti aliasing on. do it on a program with layers so it's easy to plan and move them around.

> give the bubbles thicker borders with anti aliasing on. do it on a program with layers so it's easy to plan and move them around.
Very useful tip. Thank you.

If you post pages individually, each page will be designated as an episode automatically. The most common approach is to utilize the Title of each episode as a page count.
First Episode. Title: Chapter One Page 1
Second Episode. Title: Chapter One Page 2
And so on.
Once a chapter is concluded you can compile it into one episode, so it can be read in one go as intended. So then you have:
First Episode. Title: Chapter One
Second Episode. Title: Chapter Two Page 1
And like so you continue indefinitely. I agree that reading comics in chapter bulks is preferable from an artistic point of view but it's completely impractical if you want to reach people via hosting, unfortunately.

In fact, I'd recommend you to scrap everything you posted until now and completely start over on Tapas with the schedule described. It will annoy the few readers you have so far a bit because the content will be gone and only replenished slowly, but it will absolutely pay off in the long run.

Thanks, how's the writing? Shitty question to ask since it's not your thing, but it's the only thing I actually did myself.

>I don't associate with pedophiles
Statisticially, this is extremely unlikely. And if we apply American pedophilia the chances of that statement being true are virtually zero.

Does the Scott McCloud book actually help anyone here?

It did for me. Not life changing, just a lot of "Oooh, I get it now".

What is this comic about, user?

Trying to figure this page out. Not sure how to render the gorgon head/face "special effects." Not coming out as eerie as I'd like. Perhaps I should just go and do some bombass lineart instead of focusing on color and other whimsy.

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Try making the head lineless, go right for green tentacles.

You're going with a pure one-color glow. What you usually want is for teh color to be the aura, but the glow itself to be done in lighter and lighter until it's white. It won't look white in the final product, it'll just look like intense cyan glow. If that's not eerie enough, have the hue shift a bit

It's less of an instruction manual for making comics and more a compilation of very detailed, comprehensive explanations for comic related things you kinda knew intuitevly already. It explains how comics work, not how to work comics.
I'd still recommend it to anyone even vaguely interested in the medium. As well as Moore's Writing for Comics which is super condensed, cheap and an entertaining read. It also has a semi-ironic afterword which basically says that it's all outdated junk and you should make up your own mind which is refreshing and honestly hilarious.

What have you been up too?

But he did just say "we go to mars"...

practicing sucking less, commissions, a super secret game project, and drawing a buttload of zelda monsters for fun, then practicing using soft shading on them to mixed results!

That might work. I hesitate only wondering if having something line-less sitting among many strongly defined lines would seem awkwardly out of place--but I suppose there's an easy way of finding out.

This sounds like a core piece of the puzzle, thanks. People who know color and light are like God damn wizards to me.

I just learned it from deviantart, a lightsaber tutorial. it blew my mind that you start with a white beam then add a colored aura

Nice, glad you come back here and can you say what kind of game? Are you part of a team or is it solo

a team, and it's it's a game within a game, so if I mention it's a lewd game that won't be very exciting since my part isn't. I'm just excited to finally show off this art I was pretty proud of a year ago when I made it (less proud of it with each passing month)

first issue/episode of a comic me and an artist are doing.

>i wrote the script and he drew the script and is a co-creator of this character.

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Lotta emotion on that guy. I really buy his germ phobia.

im really pleased about how he drew him.
im also pleased about how you picked up on his germophobia

That is exciting, hope all goes well with it and you get back to some comic stuff too

Not trying to be an asshole but as the writer on this project you should probably avoid having spelling errors on your very first page. You quite literally had one job...

>two

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That doesn't look too ba- Oh the red one's the hiatus. Oh no.
Not a single chapter in 2015, holy shit.

FUCK

He's married to the woman that made Sailor Moon too. He's living the dream.

I'm loving all the characters so far in Squires for Hire but these 2, Morgan and Betty have a fun dynamic and can't wait to see which of the two wins the Robin bowl!

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Happens to everyone, that's why we post here

Isn't that a fake marriage? Togashi is obviously gay or at the very least bisexual. Doesn't have to mean they're unhappy of course.
People marrying within their professions is so quaint.

how do you feel about the 9 panel format for a webcomic?

don't overuse it, read how watchmen handles it

It's a classic format, webcomic or no. But hard to pull of for beginners since it tends to slow down the pacing. You have to be very deliberate about what to show and how much to progress with each page. If you're stuck with a 3 page dialogue scene, good luck keeping that from getting boring... But then again, a non-static format has its own problems.

As I wrote the script, I decided that the 5th or 9th panel on the 9 panel format was the "climax" of the page and since the story will be released page by page, o should make page it's own story, so theres alot of charcater moments on each page.

>why make the 5th the climax?
Its physically the middle of the page, so the first 4 panels should be buildup to it, and the subsequent 4 should be the charcaters reacting the 5th panel.

9th should also be the climax because is the natural ending, and it can be a good cliffhanger hanger.

>panel five: paranoia becomes visible through tick.
Huh, I guess it does work. It's good you have a plan and didn't just choose this format at random.

Again, give Watchmen another, more mechanical read. Especially Fearful Symmetry.
The 9-Grid is a format, not every page has to have exactly 9 panels, but the corners have to fit in the grid.
You can double, triple, and so on, and even use two page spreads, but the corners are absolute.
And the other thing you have to pay attention to is pacing. Watchmen can be read set to a fucking metronome, if I can ever figure out the right beat. That said, I'm not expecting a webcomic to stand shoulder to shoulder with Moore and Gibbons. The point is, this is where Doomsday Clock and other uses of it fail.

i have one watchmen reference in my story a couple characters walk down the fictional "gibbons avenue"

yeah. sorry for all the typos and shit
>was phone posting while tired and taking a shit
but yeah. im doing the 9 panel in a very deliberate panel. i can post a page i wrote about the 5 stages of grief a character experiences and uses the 5th and 9th panel as climaxes or cliffhangers

fuck im tired sorry lads.

should i just give in and make a souless 3-4 panel webcomic that focuses on memes and shit normies can relate to?

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soulless 3-4 panel comic like this?

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terrible anatomy and cringey humor

tiny crossover with strawduds' merchant & pike

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it would relate to any on-going anime and i would just toss out something new like twice a week. it would only take a few hours of my time and if it becomes popular is a coin toss, i'd just post it on a reddit meme page and hope people like my sense of humor or can relate to what i'm posting.

I like how the nature of the scabbard is left unsaid, beyond a fantastic baabhabhiat reference.

Here's the thing man- you don't have to just do one or the other. Use meme's and popular topics to draw in an audience and then sprinkle in the kind of stuff you really want to make.
You may lose some of the normies but that's OK because what you're really doing is building an audience who appreciates your work.

Try harder fag

I would rather pic related

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Art isn't meant to be fun.

Try a webcomic called "Those Unknowable/The Shadows Over Innsmouth".
I don't like what they're doing with the story (It's a Lovecraft story following two groups of humans and monsters, where the author about admitted they found the humans boring and unlikeable, and then kept writing about the damn humans) but the special effects they do are pretty top notch.
tsoi.thecomicseries.com/comics/120/

Also darken up Dazirak's hair-this panel makes it look like he's sprouting tentacles

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thick upper eye line, round or small chin.

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Who are the best /hyw/ husbandos?

Nice try. I've been to /ic/ before. You'll definetely make fun of his work

finally finished last update. been having bad coughs which make it hard to work. update has nudity.
seluda.cfw.me/comics/
tapas.io/episode/1347240

>something that surprised you
not really surprised, but i find myself extremely embarrassed of the pages i've done even a short while ago. it's tempting to go back and fix them but i can't let myself do that, but i plan to in the far future. i guess if i were to be surprised it would be how often it happens... now that i think about it, i wonder what happened to me when i worked on chapter 2... i think i got into a phase...
i've never run a project this long and consistently before, so it shows changes in my mental states or acuity.

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GaiaNex’s Sammy, mostly because I love big women.

Me.

mfw ill never produce a waifu. i guess people want what they cant have. more incentive to not draw a porn comic.

I believe in your ability to create waifus, user. You can do it.

Soon i will be the right skill level to start my webcomic
Any day now...

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Mad Magic Flashback Day.

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i keep trying to make this character look chubby cause i want her to be the one slightly chub RG character but i just dont see her looking like it when i draw her, thoughts?

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Tangent with the left side of the caption box and the dangling spider; move it left a bit. Should be a crossbar-capital-i for "I may be...".

Speech balloon has tangents with the window on the left and bottom sides. The tail should be larger and clearer. The borders of both the balloon and the caption box could be thicker.

what should i make if 80% of my audience is female?

The best comic you can.

Bones

>tertiary sexual features
>lipstick
holy shit

the new milf from laundrymoms comic is a goddess. I want her to dom me.

So where do i go to get honest criticism that isn't a hugbox like reddit?

>shading
Please tell me your next comic will look like this.

get 500 patreon bux thats literally it

I dunno, being able to draw characters in all perspectives and also good backgrounds I guess. All I want is to make comics or something else I can showcase my characters and their stories in, what medium it is doesn't even matter to me. If I can give my characters a good home, my job's done and I can die in peace.

desuarchive.org/co/thread/105311926/
I have this bookmarked under the name "tough love"

Link me- if it's good I'll share it, if it's not I'll give crit if it doesn't exist I'll laugh at you

Good question, I don't know. All the places that used to give good critique have either stopped being as active or were nixed.
Your best bet might be to just do a google search for "art critique forum" and give a good once-over before joining.
When I just did it wetcanvas came up and it seem active and helpful.

My goal is to create a waifu

is stuff like this welcome?
I want to create short stories and collect them in a zine and print it.

This is my first fully rendered comic.
@tirlio

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Sure, while this thread may say "webcomic" in the title, we're not going to rule out print comics. Some people here make their comics for both web and print.

My only quibble with that strip is the last panel can easily be read as
> Somehow drifted
> We have apart.

Like the Walking Dead's warning "Don't dead, open inside".

vanilla missionary is frustratingly hard to find references for. (throws pencil at wall)

Just launched my and my partner's webcomic, actually! Gonna shamelessly shill godsblood.smackjeeves.com while it's hot

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I read it but I don't have much more to say than, "I don't like thing"- hate anime, modern tech in stories always feels weird, divine knowledge=iPhones makes the gods look lame (and underpowered if they were actually aliens with clarketech), and the prologue looks much more interesting than the story it's setting up.

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>we just launched a comic, after probably spending a really really long time plotting it out just how we like it and working on art and designs and everything
this isnt really the stage of a story/project where its polite to express disagreements. but perhaps they appreciate the honesty?

well the art looks great in that page

FYI to those who had issues with the recent CSP update, they did another update with bugfixes. It's now version 1.8.8.

this is interesting so far, ill try it

>this panel makes it look like he's sprouting tentacles
surely that was intentional

Absolutely, yes!
Webcomics are sequnetial art, posted on the web. There's a case to be made that illustrated short stories are the most essential, primordial form of comics.
Wilhelm Busch lässt grüßen.

Placing textboxes over panel borders is a very bad idea, especially when they're transparent. Other than that, fantastic page.

I love the pof smoke, I love their different drawings' personalities... I love this comic.

you've made her broad at the shoulder, not actually chubby. her shoulders are wider than her hips. she has one soft cheek, but her head overall is narrow and compressed, which makes it hard to look chubby, more the female version of skinnyfat e.g. kristen schaal
Basically instead of chubby, Tazzie here looks healthy.

You made it to the third sentence before the first spelling error.
That's not so bad for webcomic standards, but still.
Imagine spending four to eight hours drawing the intricate details of a page and god knows how long on the presentation and design of the site but then you somehow can't be bothered to take five minutes to proofread the text or 30 seconds to run it through a grammar program.
This applies to the vast majority of hyw artists, especially those who are actually talented. I will never understand it.

Sorry for being so obnoxious. I like your comic.

next kiwi day, yeah. next comic I'm not sure, probably not? I wanna try a CYOA and that means speeding things up

Made a Twitter header / logo for the comic

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Also this thingy?

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Jesus Christ CF, again with the kiwi? At least do one other short-time project before committing for another half decade or longer. I swear to god it's like watching an adult eat spaghetti and ice cream every day just because he swore he would as a kid.

Nice. Can you post the table of symbols again you showed a few threads ago?
I love stuff like this. What would you call it, photo-collages maybe? I think the first time I saw something like it was when I got into Sandman and it had those amazing covers which looked they were part of a movie or theater set design.

Photomanipulation or something? I wanted to make a thing that looked like the World of Darkness RPG books.

Now I've got hundreds of symbols to use, and the first few scenes are fully written, minus a few things I have to fix. The themes are super hard to write and I hope I don't epic fail.

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Sup peeps, how are you doing?

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>somehow drifted
>We have apart
I like this a lot! a lot!

Right? Lots of cowgirl refs though.
Looks okay! Reminds me of another comic we had in here once, but I can barely remember anything about it.

>At least do one other short-time project before committing for another half decade or longer.
Literally what I just said Ima do, and for that exact reason. We are on the same page.
>it's like watching an adult eat spaghetti and ice cream every day just because he swore he would as a kid.
I have had bosses, family members, and friends' family members like this. It's so silly and sad at the same time.

Good gravy, that is a cool pose and some rock n' roll damn colors going on.

I feel like I'm only constructing waifus and then getting bogged down trying to write them into the comics.

well I guess that is kinda what i meant? just most my girls in RG are quite slim, but thank you i will increase her hip width!

i tried a bit more what i wanted in another pic i momentarily forgot about but i dont know if its appealing, i personally didnt like it.

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Chubwise, she's perfect above the waist, though I'd still pull the eyes down a bit and spread them apart. Just the legs are disproportionately tiny now. Girls definitely carry plenty of fat in their thighs, so she'll need wider hips and chubbier thighs.
Remember elbows generally go down to the ribcage and hands down a bit past the crotch

oh yeah shit i gave her monkey arms, im just real bad at drawing fat so thanks for the tips

>I have had bosses, family members, and friends' family members like this
Do you live in an alternate dimension made entirely of cliches about the American southwest?

I don't know what to do Yea Forums

I've always wanted to write comics but I'm worried about just jumping head first in with stories I care about without any experience and just ruining the product due to inexperience.

I have a script written out for a story I don't care too much about and would be fine running as a test. Only on the second draft but I have it written the whole thing out and was thinking about hiring an artist to work with on the pages

However I'm 14 pages through the second draft and I'm worried it's too boring and is taking too long to get to the exciting parts.

I could really use some feedback:
docs.google.com/document/d/1eOPhXfsa0VwvJu1VnXhlswMBb2WY6BUuCL6IEXN9ev8/edit?usp=sharing

The story is a subversion of the RPG trope of climbing a tower and fighting different monsters to get a wish at the top. One of the characters climbs from the oustide, another tries to blow it up to bring the bottom to her and the main hero goes through it traditionally and has action scenes. None of this is covered in the pages I have down.

I also intentionally keep some of the writing super vague and corny to emulate Super Nintendo RPG storytelling but I'm not sure if that's a bad move in general because it just makes me seem like a bad writer.

I also worry that I write too much but I'm not too sure if that would be noticeable in the final webcomic format.

Should I scrap this and work on a different story I have out that's a bit more interesting despite the fact that this current one is done? (I do have other backups that I could convert)

Are there any ways I could salvage this?

Damn, these are great. Intricate but very consistent. Do you come up with them from scratch or do you assemble them from existing symbols and pictographic languages?
Many creators think you just have to throw together a bunch of random lines to create appealing symbols, but somehow you can always tell which ones are lazy and which ones are deliberate. It's like the old problem of maps in fantasy novels.

One of the friend's-relatives in question does live in Vegas and is, I think, originally from Tennessee, so maybe.
She is an old-ass lady and if she just wants to eat ice cream from now on, who's to tell her she can't?

My biggest issue now is figuring out backgrounds. I just bought a book on architecture and design to study, but I wanted to know of there were any other references I could use.

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>None of this is covered in the pages I have down.
Sounds like step 1 is add that, it sounds great.
>vague and corny writing
As long as you're good at it, I'm all for that kind of thing. Po-Mo has gone a bit too far in places, it's nice having something generic and cozy.

Your writing's not bad, I can tell from the panel descriptions. It's also not a detriment to be very detailed in your instructions. Moore is known for doing that. But man, this is the classic case of starting out with a magnum opus as an inexperienced beginner. You're setting yourself up for failure unless you have enough money to hire a very experienced artist who also gets involved in the project.
My advice would be to shelf this project for the time being and to start with something small, a 5 to 15 pages self-contained story. Something that has a beginning, middle and end and enough going on so it can stand on its own. Then learn from the process of making that small project and you'll have a much better grasp on what is achievable.

I went through a few tests and tried to keep the angles simple, they're loosely based on sacred geometry and goetic symbols.

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It's alluded to? The guy who climbs up the tower sates from the get go that's his plan while the girl blowing up the tower does so right at the end while the other two are inside starting off the final action sequence.

I also don't know if I should keep the vague bad writing because of the plotwist... I'll just post the plot twist
The Mayor of the town made up the shit about the wish granting bell at the top of the tower to get free labor to clear out the monsters that infested it during winter. All he vague writing is because of inconsistancies in their promotional material.

The girl is actually sent to demolition it by the government because it doesn't meet safety standards for an "attraction"

Mayor has a whole rant about how young people want Free rides by just searching for macguffins when each of them reveal that their wish is somewhat impossible without magical means especially Hero who is actually a mute and wants to have their own voice back

Hardly my magnum opus. This is something I came up with as a self contained story that I thought would clock out at clock out on 30 pages but I just write too much.

My magnum opus is My own super hero universe told through interconnected webcomics, videogames and animated series I've been writing since I was 5. They're coming of age tales for 20 somethings who are receiving the world on their shoulders as the most influential generation

Dig it. That sounds like a nice ride.

I'd recommend shooting for a lower page count. Hiring an artist - as in actually paying them - is pretty expensive. Even if you have a relatively inexpensive artist, shaving off 10 pages could save you like $500.
Just collaborating with an artist is also probably more likely to succeed if it's a lower, more reachable goal.

I think you're completely right friend. I just don't know to simplify my stuff.

Do you know have any advice on how to cut out the fat for someone who hit character limit in each of his posts?

>tfw you've been drawing for almost a decade and you're still shit and your comic still has no fans
What the fuck is the secret? How do people do it?

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Be self-interested enough to draw for You,
but not so self-absorbed that you think you're the only one of you. There's at least six others.

i wanna try back logging since i felt like posting on a schedule won't do me any good.

>but not so self-absorbed that you think you're the only one of you. There's at least six others.
Can shizophrenia cure loneliness?

>There's at least six others.
What did he mean by this

that pic is me

I think setting hard limits help.
They make you think twice whether something is necessary. When not cutting the fat means that you'll have to leave out some more important part of the story, you'll be a lot more mindful of it.

Also, try iterative condensing to practice.
Write a story and then continously reduce its page count, until you feel nothing can be removed without ruining the core of the story. Just so you have an easier time identifying what's actually important and what is essentially just details cluttering up the story.

Not like schizophrenia, that's the opposite. That's one person being lots of people.
I'm talking about thinking you're so unique there's only one of you. With 8 billion people, there's lots of duplicates.

There are people who structure their stories top down, but if you're not that kind of person and just let the story grow, just do a bunch of rewrites. Combine and cut parts, even when you feel like you're losing something valuable. If something's a really good idea, vault it and you can just use it another time.

>bones gave up on his webcomic dream
>dewd is going to graduate from college
>all the old comics that stopped being posted
Stop time. STOP

> Sll the new comics that are being created
Continue. Don't stop.

youtube.com/watch?v=8zXRk69a7-c

>>dewd is going to graduate from college
how did he even get into college in the first place? If his comic is any indication I wouldn't trust him to assemble a sandwich. Do American colleges not require top or at least high grades?

Initially I didnt want to give this a try because the description sounded like nothing, but this is actually great! One of the best comics I read so far for sure.

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Dewd succeeds for one simple principle, he finishes shit.

He's gonna deliver trash, but he finishes the shit he makes. That already puts him above like 50% of the people in this thread

Fair enough.

what the hell user you just made me envy dude fix this right fucking now

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Hey guys, I've just got over a day left in my Kickstarter. If you could take a look and maybe even throw a couple bucks my way, I'd really appreciate it!

kickstarter.com/projects/805169961/rikomenci

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This
Also legit animation skills including lip sync and comedic timing. And voiceover.
Though the common thread through all of this is speed. Good art takes time, but sometimes getting into a groove means you start churning out work. Churned-out work is different from work that had care put in.

Rushed work has no substance and can be easily forgotten, nobody cares how long you took on something, what matters is the quality of the output, do your best.

Dude is competent but is held back by his aspergers and inability to back off a bit and see his work as a whole. If he ever actually dedicated time to his craft he could be decent

It's so weird, I've been looking much more carefully lately at old media, and realizing how high a level of accepted mistakes they had. Like when I was a kid, I noticed TMNT and Garfield were shoddy as fuck cartoons, but I didn't notice the obviously rubber shells in the live TMNT films, nor did I realize BTAS was a stylized cartoon, to me it was total realism the same as x-men and spider-man. A lot of it was the way old TVs worked, they nicely hid things that look obvious when you watch them on TV now. Like stuntmen.
It's really hard to tell exactly how much precision and refinement are going to be necessary until someone tears it apart later on.

Nothing besides math and technical problems are supposed to be over analyzed, hell not even human behaviour.

We live in an age where it's common to see on youtube how a critic tears apart a cartoon or show to a pulp just for his own entertainment, and we creators live with a constant cloud upon us fearing our work will have that same fate and we're trying to patch as many things as we can.

Thing is, you shouldn't, let yourself be and commit mistakes, let those people outrage and destroy and shit on your work, you need to create because it makes you happy, because you want to see your creation come to life. and that should be the driving force and your soul. It's the only thing that matters when it comes to creating. To have a goal, and pursuit it.

Work in progress for my next page.

But ill go slowly because im studying the evil dark wizardry known as perspective and because the page has a position thats very difficult to draw for me since I cant find good references.

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thank you for giving it a chance!

the description i put on tapas is a short summary to a very long story without giving much away, haha. the description i have on the main site's "about" page will be updated when i reach certain parts of the story. glad you enjoyed it!

You might benefit from one of those virtual pose dolls. they're building those into some art programs now, i wanna say clip studio comes with em

>Do American colleges not require top or at least high grades?
lol, no

Sometimes I just take pics of myself with a timer to use it as reference.

Anyways, I wanna say
>How do I stop sucking at action scenes?
But there is so much I have to improve on my list and I dont wanna start crying now.

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gesture drawings, study from action movies, learn how to dynamic poses,

At least she gets cuter with every appearance.

I hope to god that I can just get better in a big way soon. If that means a lot of studying so be it.

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Thanks dude, despite the short run, I'm glad people liked her.

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>mfw I'll never get better no matter the amount of practice

We should make it a competition see which girl wins. One per comic.

>It's an episodic story about a bunch of kids going to school to become heroes.

Uh hasn’t that been done to death?
and the art quality hasn’t improved either

Start with the impact and work your way backwards, one body being pushed bac and another body putting its full force into it

Oh god this brings back memories

In the first panel she is actually dodging him by a hair.

Second panel she is pulling the chain that binds his arms so he falls front.

I was already bad at normal scenes but having a dodging scene is difficult. That said once I ink I think its gonna be more clear.

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dodges are realllly difficult. Don't feel bad about having trouble.

Yeah, clip studio has them but there's the caveat that you have to have the software. Honestly I'd recommend some free phone apps like magic poser or easy poser. Or download Design doll, it's got a free version that works fine.

Say I wanna draw a 4-6 page little story comic (for starters at least).
How do you start that? I know it's different for everyone but I figure some perspectives might help.
For example, do you write out the whole script and then storyboard from that, or do you storyboard first? Or some third option I'm not considering?

for a 4-6 pager? yeah, script and storyboard the whole thing.

seems like to much work for me desu

i try to read the words before continuing to make sure it sounds right, ive edited sentences on the fly before and then realised afterwards that caused a missing.
this generally works except for the off chance spelling errors slip by.

Your effort shows when you make comics. If you aren't going to put any effort in your comic than why bother.
With 4-6 pages, every page needs to be precise to make up for what little space you have.

Finished this page!

Really proud of the coloring on this page.


>Uh hasn’t that been done to death?
When i started up my comic the only thing people would compare it to was that one movie Sky High

Then My hero academia came out...

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Alright, thanks. Sometimes I just benefit from being told what to do.
What about something longer, like a 20 pager or however long the average Poppy chapter was? Same deal?
the 4-6 page comic is mainly to see if I have it in me to get a comic off the ground

It's not like MHA is good

get The Noble Approach by Maurice Noble, it talks about designing backgrounds, props and even choosing the colors for a composition, it's an amazing book and i can't stop recommending it.

just the simplest of sketched figures.

Yea Forums I need to be hit with some inspiration. I'm swapping tracks since my current project isn't working too well.

I want to make something short and sweet and feel good about myself again

>20-pager
break it up into 4-5 page chunks, storyboard and finish them a chunk at a time. Unless you're doing something Weismanesque where there's a million tiny bits of continuity.

SOL about dragons hanging out in a dungeon

>Then My hero academia came out...
Comparisons will happen, hell if I didn't already come out and say what mine was partially inspired by, I'd have people telling me it's like Medabots, as if I already didn't know.

adapt the 1981 matthew robins film Dragonslayer, without watching it
If you have watched it, do the opposite.

I was disappointed when adventure time came out, my dot-eyed zany fantasy shit WASN'T compared to it
putting the dates on it helped I guess, but I would love to have been called a ripoff.

You could start a comic diary. Just write and draw what happens in your life or funny stories you remember.

user I'm a neet

do a less autistic version of a self-insert fantasy by writing what you think would be someone else's fantasy they'd insert themselves into
someone very different from you

watamote, ellroy the shark, and neet comics exist

Yeah, it kinda went to shit during that whole yakuza arc.

Is that the most recent one where he introduced Deku having nine latent OP powers

I just had the thought, would WHOMP! be considered a fictional neet comic diary?

No, its the arc that comes after the UNITED STATES OF SMASH one.

why would that change anything? unless you lived the most interesting life ever, nearly everyone has to read outside material, fiction, biographies, literature in order to write better
being a neet excuses you of nothing, if anything you should have plenty of time to read books

New thread waiting, get those last nine posts in fellas.

Why is Yea Forums somehow so much more helpful than /ic/?

Because Yea Forums is more forgiving, and accepts lower artistic standards in favor of a good story.

the ronnie character is a turbonerd but he's not necessarily a neet.

What's the difference? I'm not sure about what crosses the line here.

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actual artists post here rather then whoever the hell at ic. and people here aren't dicks for no reason (mostly)

Who /has weird dreams often and turns them into short story pitches for writing practice/ here?

A neet is someone who's not employed, in education, or training for employment. They're often represented as nerdy shut-ins, but those are separate descriptors that just happen to be related.

They always sound really clever in my dream and then I wake up and they're dumb or I forgot them

good job guy. all ready

I wish I could add dream stuff into my comic. Too bad the vast majority of my dreams are either nonsense or nightmares. And not the fun nightmares, either.

I do, on occasion. Keeping a journal really helps to keep remembering them.

Nice. Once this one hits page 10, new thread will be up.
Gentlemen, ready your comic pages.

Yeah but you don’t have any audacity to criticize anything considering your awful comic

Wouldn't me having an awful comic make me an expert in shitty comics though?

The difference being that at one point MHA was considered good while you’ve never been good at anything

MHA was never good weeb

I like it.. it's like my favorite anime in the last 15 years. Not that that's saying much.

Zach put your trip back on

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