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People didn't realise that paying money to say fuck you was a bad idea
Considering it got funded and released without too many setbacks, not much. It’s still mediocre.
Nothing. It was alright.
I remember being in a comic shop and the owner was talking to me and this comic was brought up and he said he hated Zach and that he's racist and hates blacks etc while I literally pointed out on this very cover theres a black guy and he went quiet, really wish people did their own research and didn't just parrot what opinions they hear off the internet
>ya boi isn't racist
wtf I hate Zach now
nothing because backers saw the preview pages and knew what they where getting.
which makes it even more confusing as to why Waid would interfere with the publishers contract or why Kickstarter banned the book for "promoting discrimination, subjugation, or intolerance against marginalized groups"
also the stalker that gets called out every thread still hasn't explained why hes so mad.
he has raged at DnC for so long he became him, autistically trying to make us think the dead industry would be better with some indie gone.
it would be better if he posted funny memes or shitposts about the book, but he'd rather whine to anons about a small niche e-celeb and his crew.
>That pic
So if theres a comic where the heroes are all white and straight males it wouldn't be allowed?
i dunno but half the time i got to the KS comics section i always see "Queer" plastered all over the thumbnails or in the description.
apparently the staff that overseas the Comics section is a crazed tumblrina, at one point they had Heather Antos as a consultant, thats why all the cg people use indiegogo.
> "I don't hate black people, I included them as a side character in my comicbook!"
Basically, yes.
Seriously, what is up with that main guy's facial hair?
90s Wildstorm ripoff
Although I'm pretty sure it was intended to be, so I won't fault it for that.
He's got whatever the opposite of a mustache is.
>I literally pointed out on this very cover theres a black guy
Did you point to all the race jokes in the comic that Zach tries to disguise as banter?
No because the issue wasn't in the store, he just brought up the cover on the pc when he didn't believe me, but I've worked with blacks and been able to make race jokes without them being triggered and them back to me, not everyone is a pussy like you may imagine them to be
Or the Tribal African Queen™ that wears a literal loincloth and makes googly eyes at the black dude the second she sees him?
He made a stupid quip about black people not being good swimmers. Y'know, the oldest and most innocuous stereotype about black people in the book. You'd literally need to put in effort to be offended by it in 20XX.
That being said it was still super lame and makes this book look even more dated than it already does.
there are still real african tribes that wear shit like that
many go topless
>The superheroes are diverse racially and sexually
>sexually
Which one of the Jawbreakers was gay?
i cant remember which but he talked about it a long time ago.
I looks like shit. Thats why.
Probably Knifehand. He's one of the good ones since he doesn't talk.
I'm guessing it's that Scott Summers lookalike considering he's the only one with a decent fashion sense.
Thank you, at least someone in here thinks.
>doesn't talk
Ah, the perfect trait for the role of the team cum dumpster.
Shops like this need to go out of business.
They're the same sort of people who order heavy on every 'diverse' Marvel title and are then angry about them not selling.
"I KNOW Ms Marvel sells well! And people LOVE Squirrel Girl! Why aren't they selling in my shop?? Huh! Probably because MY customers are cis white racist a-holes!"
^They actually think this.
>> "I don't hate black people, I included them as a side character in my comicbook!"
You're saying this sarcastically but now you need to go to the next level
and realize that the anti-CG opposition are actually so dumb and ignorant that they literally thought Meyer & co. wanted only straight white men in all their comics.
This is what they actually thought and went on a jihad for, so yes when they see a black person in a CG comic they are shocked and speechless.
This. The Mr Fantastic reaching around here to make Zach's dadjokes into indications of secret KKK affiliation are ridiculous.
>90s Wildstorm ripoff
>Although I'm pretty sure it was intended to be, so I won't fault it for that.
Eh. Jawbreakers makes Wildcats issues from the 90s seem like Watchmen.
It was mediocre, not terrible, but what Meyer was TRYING to do was something that he shouldn't've tried. He's aspiring to be stuff that wasn't great to begin with and now only appeals to guys in their mid-40s who still care about GI Joe.
Still doesn't change how shit Jawbreakers is as a comic book.
Alright come on, that was the most innocuous fucking thing in existence. A black guy and a white guy who are close friends are more than likely going to sarcastically banter one another about their race, it's just playful negging and it would probably be less realistic if they didn't.
I didn't see a point to add that dialogue, it felt out of place.
His other comic is about two white dudes gunning down evil mexicans.
At least in resident evil 4, the people speaking Spanish were white guys.
>Wildcats
Probably closer to Team 7 in terms of the whole all-male supersoldier team thing.
That's basically the " I can't be racist I have a black friend" argument
>and realize that the anti-CG opposition are actually so dumb and ignorant that they literally thought Meyer & co. wanted only straight white men in all their comics.
Cool, so instead Meyer and Malin make several pages of white people slaughtering black people, have one of the protagonists scream "with the power of 1000 slaves" unironically, have some magical negro stereotype that's always dressed in loincloth just like the T&A character that lives and dies pointlessly at the hands of the other black protagonist, a ruthless warlord that also stereotypically kills his henchmen and is used as an excuse to ramp up the dead black people quota.
He sure showed everyone he's all in for inclusion!
It was definitely out-of-place and stupid but it wasn't malicious.
Don't forget that Hitler attended the Olympics and greeted a black person.
im latino and i dont care
>black people cant be villians
bet Black Panther really pissed you off, all those guys that sided with killmonger.
Ya boi Zack love Black Panther and was inspired to add elements into his book.
whatever shut up.
Hes also fucking a Muslim who he married and is raising her daughter.
His ex is a mexican.
He lives in a super gay jew neighborhood.
His other writers had to stop him from making too much focus on an African queen in jawbreaker because he loved her so much she was pretty much his waifu.
And his channel is called diversity and comics because he liked when comics were diverse in the past without identity politics and the current year bullshit. Like storm and shit
If you still think he's racist you might need to check your koolaid or onions levels.
But aren't most Mexicans fleeing Mexico because of evil drug lords? And that's why we let them in freedomland?
>im latino and i dont care
I'm "Latino" as well (as if that were a race) and I do. Don't pretend to speak for an entire demographic.
>>black people cant be villians
That's not what was said, but I don't remember Killmonger going out of his way to kill his henchmen so you really have to be a dense motherfucker to compare the two.
Looked suspicious to me...
Nice grocery list of "I'm not racist I have a black friend" tier arguments. I guess when he makes a case for segregation and feeling uncomfortable for all the diverse aliens in Morrison's Green Lantern, that totally means the dude isn't racist, he simply believes they should keep to themselves and shit. Very progressive and diverse, just like the channel he uses to screech at Squirrel Girl.
He's actually
1. Very sexist
2. Very stupid
3. Very weird
Holy shit
it all makes sense
the retard ripped off Black Panther!
what you think is racist is really just an homage to a beloved black film.
damn Ya boi Zack really loves black people
>Don't pretend to speak for an entire demographic.
i never did. im just a POC letting my voice be heard!
>Killmonger going out of his way to kill his henchmen
Liar
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Dude he literally has nonwhite CHILDREN.
Wow yes I change my mind he's totally not racist, he just says racist and exclusionary shit but he doesn't mean it my God! I'm convinced!
>he liked when comics were diverse in the past without identity politics and the current year bullshit
He complained that it made no sense for the green lanterns to be diverse and that all the green lanterns of one species should be hanging out with each other.
black panther is retarded as ass and is more racist to both black people and white people than any film I've ever seen in my life.
well fuck zack.
EVERY SINGLE THING.
That’s not racism, that’s human supremacy.
I’d like you to point out examples of this exclusionary stuff that aren’t just petty nitpicking.
He wasn't talking about just the human lanterns, but all lanterns.
>just like the channel he uses to screech at Squirrel Girl.
the last SG vid was a month ago and most of the other SG vids are 1 year old
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>petty nitpicking
Like complaining that Green Lanterns, a xeno police corps, is comprised of aliens from every corner of the universe? And then point out that the aliens in the big space hub aren't hanging out with their own and are intermingled?
>the last SG was a month ago
Just like the last issue of squirrel girl, whoa. Is this supposed to mean anything? He still has those videos there where he yells at a comic book.
figure it out you blyat
>Just like the last issue of squirrel girl, whoa. Is this supposed to mean anything?
and how many issues have been released in the last year?
>He still has those videos there where he yells at a comic book.
and this upsets you why?
youtube is filled with Hypebeasts and Reactors yelling about all kinds of stuff, why does Meyer get your panties in a twist?
Doesn't matter, that's pretty exclusive.
Not much, it was a surprisingly entertainingly stupid SoP in an age where most SoPs are bland and forgettable.
>and this upsets you why?
Nobody is upset. Can't you follow a conversation? Why are you hellbent on defending him? It's still something that happened, precisely for the reasons you bring up, he's sitting there yelling at shit for views and I'm supposed to take him seriously?
Besides it doesn't even matter that he doesn't like SG, it's about his views and how they reflect the stuff he writes, as evidenced by both Iron Sights and now Jawbreakers. You'd think that someone who's "concerned" about minorities being portrayed"overtly positive" on the big two (as if that's a bad thing in itself) wouldn't go out of his way to do the direct opposite and then claim is diversity "done right".
And before you ask disingenuously what's the problem with what he did, refer to this post which only mentions a few of the issues with the book, not all of them.
thank you, I am sick and tired of those stupids defending zack regardless of what he does, it's so stupid.
oh btw he promised quality content and made shit.
That's an opinion.
No it's fact dipshit, you never read it, if you did you would know it.
>Nobody is upset.
doubt
>Why are you hellbent on defending him?
defend what?
all your points are retarded and overblown, maybe its just an opinion we will never see eye to eye on.
>he's sitting there yelling at shit for views and I'm supposed to take him seriously?
its youtube, you dont have to watch if you dont want to
>it's about his views and how they reflect the stuff he writes
and that matters why?
your not being forced to read or buy, no school is going to put it in their curriculum
>wouldn't go out of his way to do the direct opposite
thats your opinion, i think most people aren't as sensitive as you are.
you strike me as the kind of person who bitched about RE5 for shooting black people in africa.
>And before you ask disingenuously what's the problem with what he did, refer to this post
>what he did
oh no he made a story you found "problematic"
Mercs in Africa encountering an evil warlord...
you know warlords exist right?
you know they do fucked up stuff?
>but all the black people
yea there's black people in africa.
he promised the same quality as what was in the preview pages on the campaign page, backers got what they signed up for.
holy shit you're dumb, come back on the internet when you're not stupid anymore.
It's actually really good, don't write off something just because you don't like the creator.
His die-hard fanbase refuses to critique the garbage parts of the writing and art. I don't know why they love sucking cock at every opportunity.
>i-if you don't like it don't read it
Pretty much this. Glad I didn't pay a cent.
Explain why you love it so much, go into details. I'm fucking gonna love this.....
And no it's not "cuz I hate the creator", what kind of insult is that? You're horse shit.
you missed my point
its
if you dont like it why spend all day raging about it?
its not even that popular or well known
I'm sure you won't mind explaining what the whole huge gorilla and magical portals shit was about either, that was a big head-scratcher.
You mean all of it?
>all day
This thread was made 4h ago.
........... You retard.
>guy that writes Rags has to continually explain he wants nothing to do with CG anymore cause they kept using him as the "I'm not racist, I have a black friend" scapegoat
Why is Meyer making angry videos about a comic that sells 8k issues?
Meanwhile he whines that SJWs do the same thing...
Turns out
>DUDE OWNING THE LIBS LMAO
is not a good basis for a comic. Or anything. Who could have seen that coming.
4 hrs = about 11 episodes of Seinfeld
how long you plan on staying in this thread?
>Why is Meyer making angry videos about a comic that sells 8k issues?
ad revenue
he also uses every vid to shill his stuff.
just like every other youtuber
>Meyer is a bad writer
>Malin is a bad artist
>Funded by people that won't outside the US for their comics and care way to goddamn much about culture war bullshit (which is hilarious because Japan is pretty much taking over markets internationally)
the future is Slime!
Turns out it was. The guy made like 400,000. Enough to sue some ginger virgin hack.
he had a seperate fundraiser for the lawsuit
>IT'S OKAY, HE MADE MONEY
So he's the Justin Bieber of comics?
>What went wrong.
A carpetbagger that knows nothing about comics scammed a bunch of peopling into paying for shitty comics
The 400k went towards alimony payments?
What is 'owning the libs', if not making more money than them at their own game?
Bieber has undeniable talent, the guy can really sing
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Diplo and Skrillex really screwed him
alimony is dependant on how long you have been married to the person and how much you where making at the time.
he often talks about how broke he was so if anything its child support.
he could make bank off of superchats if he wanted to stream again.
God I love you Zach please destroy my boipussy
actually no there aren't and does that do have the ability to wear/make sufficient clothing if need be.
Things that definitely didn't happen.
>actually no there aren't
bruh theres vids on youtube of topless tribes
surprise surprise Black Panther bastardized african tribesmen for a PG-13 rating
>and does that do have the ability to wear/make sufficient clothing if need be.
yea but most dont feel the need, most are content to be naked, the only ones that wear clothes where told to by christian and muslim missionaries
Everything, it started with Marvel and DC being shit at what they do, then autists started Twitter tantrums because their feelings got hurt by those "damn SJWs", opportunists like Meyer saw a business opportunity and made a quick cash.
TLDR; the comic industry was a mistake
>opportunists like Meyer saw a business opportunity and made a quick cash.
Pointing out how pozzed media and entertainment are when they won't do it themselves is now a grift somehow.
Acting like the comic industry is all Squirrel Girl and America Chavez to get outrage bucks from people that don't read comics is pretty much a grift.
That wasn't the point weirdo, he was trying to say he sucks at comics.
>Acting like all he reviewed was Squirrel Girl and America Chavez
lol. And big leaguers like bill sienkiewicz getting his panties in a bunch over Trump every day on Twitter. Yes, squirrel girl and America ARE indicative of most of the industry
Of course he didn't review only those comics, that's not what he meant.
and then everyone clapped
His comic is proof he ONLY cares about culture wars.
he meant meyer only read low selling stuff nobody would buy anyway
but that's not true either
>two comics that barely break beyond 12K issues
vs.
>an industry that favors countless of variants, one-shot & minis fatigue, drowning the market with a lot series at once within the same franchise (X-Men), and bad writers like Cates, Aaron and Bendis pushing retarded ideas onto the audience
Sure, the problem with the industry is that America, an already cancelled comic, is badly written.
But the negative reviews was the main focus of his channel.
t. cucks
not an argument, you twig.
A DIZZYING BLOW TO BODY AND BRAIN
Yeah I'm sure YA BOI ZACK was just trying to present an accurate representation with his african witch doctor in a loincloth.
Point to a comic in the top 10 like squirrel girl or America chavez
You are a fucking retard my man
Not only that but she had zero character and she was wasted so much and written like shit.
It's like you've never read a funny book before.
Can I have a Nigger in the thread to cool things off. Too many onions drones here.
not knowing the image I can tell its just a punisher guy in front with hitler hair.... guy on the right has a gun, half the audience will cry about that... there's a token black guy, there should be two if they don't want the cliche and there's a KNIFEHANDS KID
the guy in the top left looks out of place, like he's supposed to be some sort of contrast
Can you tell me why the book is O so very funny Mr. Iknowmyshit?
not really
if anything the main focus was twitter beef with pros and indies
and in the past few months he stopped getting into shit with pros and even apologized to mags, also promised to never make mean spirited personal insults at the pros when reviewing their work.
it only seemed like those books where the focus because the pro or indie would get mad and call him a nazi on twitter, so he would review the next issue as a "fuck you il do what i want" also the pro would be receiving glowing articles by shill sites.
Well which is it user? Was YA BOI ZACK showing an accurate representation of africa or was it a joke?
Because either way he failed.
>her daughter
What did he mean by this?
>zach
Is it a grift to tell your fans Valiant only publishes stuff like Faith so they won't check out their books that fill the same niche you're trying to target?
bro you should have told him Zack has a muzzie kid, a jew kid, a mexican, and currently is working on getting a negro one. Ya boi Zach doesn't discriminate
Don't get technical with me smart alec, you know exactly what we're arguing about. Comics and how shit this comic and particular was.
That just makes me sick.
You mean Richard "everything I dont like is ess jay double you" meyer?
so did literal slave owners, I guess they weren't racist either.
Yeah that guy.
> you know exactly what we're arguing about.
some kind of "grift" conspiracy
Ya boi zack has always been honest about his stuff
>how shit this comic and particular was
ok?
everyone knows its shit
Judging by the thread clearly everyone agrees with us.
"Funny book" is another term for comic book. If you're going to express opinions on this at least have the minimum amount of brains.
as far as i can tell everyone agrees its shit
but not in agreement to what degree of shit or degree of offence to take.
What the absolute fuck?
Well you're right on that one user.
Do you seriously not know that funny book is a term for comic book?
>it's just a comic book
It's a shit comic book is what it is.
you're so fucking stupid to assume people would fall for this attempt at looking smart, obviously you meant funny as in comedy.
You have a retard on the writing and a retard on the art
Culture war faggots should choke on asbestos
I fail to see how that excuses YA BOI ZACK racism.
You have to go back.
No m8, any comic book is a funny book.
No you are retarded for not knowing the term funnybook but the other guy is equally retarded for using "it's just a comic book who cares" as a defense of a shitty comic.
Most comics are.
No, I didn't. I said it to be dismissive, because anyone with half a brain know that most comics are disposable trash. It's not my fault you're a dummy.
You're retarded, yeah you, you're fucking retarded, I'm gonna ignore you.
Fuck you.
t. Dan Slott
Hey zack try not to have a coughing attack when we all call you a youtube hack.
It's a sarcastic/tongue in cheek term for a comic book
>this superhero movie isnt like my funny books
How new are you to comics?
But how does that excuse the blatant racism?
He's working towards his 4th wife? Being a racefetishist are weird.
No one needs to defend what some cry-baby liberatti thinks is racism.
I think the most racist bit is how the main villain dies.
Just gunned down by a Helicopter pilot who had nothing to do with the story, and is taken out so easily despite being a cyborg, is like the Jawbreakers killing solider while not being in any sort of danger. Kind of sign that says "these people where never a match for us because we're superior."
Ignoring that we have two characters who actually had some reason to kill him (Knock off Blade and Xaxi) Just proves what a shitty loathsome writer Zack is at the end of the day.
Funny in the context of the term "funny book" doesnt mean humorous.
But just a moment ago you were praising YA BOI ZACK on an accurate representation of africa.
But how does it excuse the blatant racism?
RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
We knew what you fucking meant by funny bitch.
It's a villain. It's like you want to be offended.
nothing
it was a decent book
A 90s throwback
sjws are insane and the big 4 are just publishing crap these days
It's not even a stereotype, it's somewhat scientifically accurate: rates of black American children learning to swim/being enrolled in swimming classes are statistically and proportionally much lower than the rest of the population, and black people typically have denser skeletons than any other race, making them less buoyant.
I bought it and enjoyed it. I'll be buying more of D&C's books in the future.
It's not because he was a villain, it's how he was written as a villain you dense dense dense dense mother fucker.
Okay so why does he have to go down like Zack AKA a bitch
Go to a library
lol why u so mad
why u such a bitch?
Because this is a shitty comics that highlights how much of the anti-sjw attitude in comics are a scam.
There are way too many problematic comments in this thread.
I don't understand how someone could type something like that on a public platform tied to their persistent identity, being completely self-serious about it, hit the "post" button and be completely OK with it.
>Divorced men are evil
>War veterans are secret fascists
>Why couldn't this man who fought for his country have been blown up by an IED and died in screaming agony
>*sips tea*
Imagine the reaction if you said something similar about her. "Michelle Perez, deranged cat lady so of course she's a piece of shit. She's a latino so of course she's a crypto-illegal immigrant. Unfortunately she didn't drown swimming over here..."
I don't even like the D&C guy and thought his own comics were shit
>a decent book
>big 4
L O L
Except it's absolute shit and it makes liefeld look amazing.
im anti sjw but it was cringy. i think he knew it. he just tried to do kinda meta shit as nu-diversity, like "racial jokes should be more frank" and failed. if he put banter to whites in this comic as well, it would work tho. but he ofc couldnt. it really showed his limitations.
>Imagine the reaction if you said something similar about her. "Michelle Perez, deranged cat lady so of course she's a piece of shit. She's a latino so of course she's a crypto-illegal immigrant. Unfortunately she didn't drown swimming over here..."
That is what comicsgators say all the fucking time though.
Liefeld can at least entertain.
If they did it was after she proved herself to be a vitriolic cunt.
That... That doesn't make them better.
As this thread proves, you can always find someone willing to defend your bullshit if it aligns with your own cult mentality.
Oh my god yes.
And we're not even done yet ladies and gentlemen, the Maga hats and pussy hats are just starting to roll in this thread.
It was fine. What went right was all the retards freaking out about a guy who made a comic books. Stop being jealous and do something with your pathetic life.
I'm just saying IF they did. I saw no source, so I can only assume it never happened.
Why the fuck would we be jealous over shit writing and art you faggot?
Good for them then... I don't care.
But it's a top down shitty book that only got funded by casualgate to stick it to the industry. This is a 25 dollar book that only has 57 pages in it bad story poor dialog and awful art. It is worthless.
>I don't understand how someone could type something like that on a public platform tied to their persistent identity
it gets worse
her original account was banned for saying she would make him a quadriplegic, she started using an alt but twitter didn't care.
she allegedly contacted his son on Xbox Live, there also this other tweet
The real outrage is that people paid almost half a million and an average of $25 per copy for that garbage, where a lot of great series and OGNs that aren't even big two already exist. That's what people find bizarre, but ultimately everyone understands that this is the product of outragebucks, not actual interest in that product.
In the regular market, no one would even consider paying a dime for that shit.
>Which one of the Jawbreakers was gay?
Well, they're called the "jawbreakers" so I assume they all eat cock.
They should've definitely given their money to some creator who openly hates and derides them and their beliefs on social media
This dude got grifted lol
How about.... Some one who knows their shit AND is respectful? You DUNCE!
Or they could had keep their money and wait for decent books
Like whom? I mean, for less than half the price, you can get Morrison & Quitely's We3. Did either of them "deride and hate" their fans as you claim?
So many OGNs and miniseries that aren't even political with diverse topics. Meyer's main interest was to create the false narrative that ALL the industry looked like America & Squirrel Girl and fomenting the idea that all pros were against them, with the final purpose of selling them a comic book that allegedly catered to their interests. That's all there was and pretending otherwise is delusional.
Now can you be specific on which of your beliefs were being derided?
lol. People have a right to spend their money on whatever stupid trash they want, but for some reason you're focused on this one guy
You're going in circles. Of course people have the right to spend their money however they wish, but we can still say it's stupid. What's wrong with that?
>People have a right to spend their money on whatever stupid trash they want
You are absolutely right, then Comic gators should stop whining about what people support.
No! You're only allowed to say its stupid if it's an sjw book!
Because you're arguing like bad books are some anomaly when they're the norm.
Why you think we're jealous of this you moron? The book was utterly shit. Everything about it is completely with characters who were clearly rip-of of an existing one. And done by a shit writer who is a complete utter fag that can't write. And by mentioning the 90's he pointed the exact main problem with this book and what he's after. He can't grow up. The man literally cannot grow up from the 90's. His mindset is stuck there and he can't do anything that's more grown up. It's essentially a book of mindless stupidity and autism filled with stereotypes and weak jokes that are not even funny. And nothing about the book made any sense. It's just pure stupidity made by someone who can't grow up. And the fact that people donate and paid money for it show how much of a complete manbaby his viewers are. It's essentially a mindset cults of fags who can't grow up
If anything he just justified why the 90's need to die off
Define what make a book bad.
The majority of comic books go in one ear and out the other. A good book, something that actually engages you, and makes you anticipate the next one, is the minority.
>And his channel is called diversity and comics because he liked when comics were diverse in the past without identity politics
I assume he's never read most of Superman's Golden Age stories. Like the one where he abducts the leaders of two warriing nations to end a war. Or when he he took a stand against reckless driving. Or when he tore up a ghetto to force the Government to rebuild it into something vaguely liveable, which got the FBI after him due to the massive destruction of property.
Okay, so they're "the norm". By that logic, Comicsgate and DnC's entire reason d'etre is moot, because if they want "good books" and they think they know what would make them better, yet keep releasing these awful books that are proper parodies of everything that was precisely wrong in the past.
I mean it's not like people are expecting Larraz, Kuder, Brooks or any of the other Marvel's Young Guns tier quality in art from them, but at least some decent writing, with solid ideas, or at least coherent ones... Not stuff that would be rejected by any editor looking for pitches.
Shit art, Weak writing, Racist and sexist sterotypes and this horrible feeling that this is what someone like Zack wants, people who don't care about wirting but just about making a point.
"Comics have always been political! They've always been race-baiting, gender studies diatribes!"
>he took a stand against reckless driving
Someone please storytime that please that's fun, the opposite of this.
he changed his channel name 3 months ago
its obvious the only stuff you know about him is from people raging on twitter
To try and slip under the radar, but he spent at least 3 years as "Diversity & Comix".
That requires effort and actual desire to read good comics rather than bitch about SJWs.
t. too lazy and dumb for any social or political engagement.
Oy vey just feed me my superhero books!
Exhibit A.
No shit, this is something that many comicsgators tend to somehow forget to do.
I don't know what all the drama surrounding it is about, but just from what has been shitposted here, it seems to be a medicore comic made by someone who is not all that creative story wise but also not that good at character writing.
Also I'd like to shit all over the character design, which resides beyond the point of medicore to genuinely godawful.
I didn't say they did not have the right to spend on what they want, are you so blatantly stupid that you can't read comments much less comic books at all? You stupid ignorant sonovabitch.
>It's OK when we do it!
You can't really claim to hold a moral high ground over some edgy Twitter trolls if you'll excuse behaviour like this just because it comes from someone whose socio-political views happen to coincide with your own.
Jesus. I'm so glad I opted out of social media years ago. Instinctively on some level I guess I could see the writing on the wall.
>A black guy and a white guy who are close friends are more than likely going to sarcastically banter one another about their race
This is true, but you can't expect these retarded SJW types to know that, seeing as how none of them ever have any black friends.
I love We3, but it's over a decade old at this point. If you can list anything of equivalent quality Marvel or DC have put out in the last twelve months I'd honestly like to see what you can come up with.
What the fuck? I didn't say I was excusing comicsgators, nor am I on their side you twat!
YouTubers make money just existing while you losers complain on a message board about their success. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
I have black friends, we normally don't talk like the way portayed in this comic and they are normal.
STFU you sheep.
Is her username a reference to her ancestors country?
Lurk more idiot.
God I love Zack. Not only is he smart, strong, proudly served his country, and realized his dreams of creating and making a living from comic books, he also gets a bunch of dorks on the internet to waste their time arguing over him. Truly a man among boys.
But I was actually arguing that you don't even have to support big two, since there's independent comics out there.
And I don't know about "equivalent quality" considering the wildly different subject topics, but sure, I can give you some good comics from the last 12 months:
>Immortal Hulk
>Avengers No Surrender
>Avengers No Road Home
>The Green Lantern
>Ant-Man & The Wasp mini
>The Sentry mini
>Infinity Countdown: Darkhawk (bonus points considering this is a 90's character)
>Infinity Conflict & Siblings by Starlin
>Infinity Wars: Sleepwalker
And for stuff that isn't big two:
>Seven To Eternity
>Infinite Dark
>East of West
>The Last Space Race
>The Seeds
>Relay
>Cemetery Beach
>Terrible writing
>Proliferation of ugly 'experimental' art styles from technically inept creators, or alternatively slavish devotion to 'house style'
>Cringeworthy, misjudged attempts at contemporary social relevance
>Terrible new costume designs for characters on a near-monthly basis
>Outrage farming in the form of killing off/turning evil/replacing cornerstone characters, having characters align themselves to real-world causes and issues that don't make sense in the universe they inhabit, etc
>Endless slew of #1 issues, alternate covers, retailer incentives, etc to artificially drive collector's market
I'm talking about both the 1990's and the 2010's. In the fullness of time this current era of comics will be equally as derided by the cognoscenti and forgotten by the masses. At least the 90's had some hidden gems and mass appeal going for it, I guess.
Yeah he's so smart that he can't write worth a shit and get you embarrassed in front of the entire thread, how stupid are you? LURK YOU FAGWAFFLE.
I wasn't as impressed by Immortal Hulk as some people, I liked the art style though. I'll be sure to take a look at Darkhawk and Infinity Conflict, and the non-big two stuff.
"when the HRT hits you"
Social Media has completely eroded peoples ability to think before they leap that or she's being and edgy shitposter but forgets she lacks anonymity
>Instinctively on some level I guess I could see the writing on the wall.
I figured out social media was a bad idea around 2006-2008 when there were countless news stories of people saying stupid shit and incurring the wrath of an internet mob well before that became a regular occurrence
not an argument.
If you like Zack's comic, what were your favorite moments in the book?
>Immortal Hulk
Stopped reading there.
I will. Be more jealous, idiot.
Get woke go broke.
>I'm so glad I opted out of social media years ago
i deleted my facebook and all personal social media over 10yrs ago, made sure to remove all friends and change all info before deleting (some social media sites just deactivate and you can reactivate them years later even when they say theres a 60day time limit)
I even contacted forum admins to delete all my posts, some admins thought i was in some kind of trouble but i just linked them a documentary about how in the near future social media is gonna fuck us all in the job market. (it was true)
glad i did cuz all i ever see is people getting fucked over for something they posted on a whim years ago.
these days there's always 1 asshole who will use a 3rd party site to archive your public posts
Fuckin "Geeks + Gamers" will make a video on you if you sneeze in his direction
Did you read DnC's comic book? Because I did, tell me what you liked about it in detail, I want to hear your thoughts.
>Fuckin "Geeks + Gamers" will make a video on you if you sneeze in his direction
Did make a video on the Captain Marvel theatre bullshit or not.
I have never read his comics and I don't plan to. I like his videos though.
So you got nothing, I see.
Wait, you must be one of the comicsgaters who "boycotted" the book after #11. How did that boycott go btw?
>41°) Immortal Hulk #11: 41,010
>40°) Immortal Hulk #12: 41,331
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO!
I totally can since I'm judging Zach and his posse based on the content of their character. unlike them who only do it by the color of the skin.
Having read the SoP, I liked the scene with the giant runaway eyeball.
Alrighty then. :D ~You just proved my point idiot~
Actually, I boycotted the book when it turned out to be generic trash, and that was obviously the correct move.
Continuing to read it after the first few issues is embarrassing; continuing to read it after that shitshow is just downright pathetic.
Okay that's fine.
no
but he did jump on a livestream and tell the same story multiple times in a row about CM fans raiding his websites poll.
he also milked the James Gunn thing as long as he could
then there was those retards he boosted who thought the Last Jedi stole their fan fic script
I'm not sure what's worse, the fact that it made the Two Minutes Hate a reality, or the fact that an alarming number of people will adjust their behaviour simply to harvest likes/retweets/whatever because they enjoy the dopamine rush in much the same manner as a heroin addict.
I don't think you have a point.
I'm sorry about your shit taste.
>inb4: "I'M ACTUALLY SORRY FOR *YOU* BECAUSE I DON'T SUPPORT MARVEL!"
Well good for you! Too bad I'm still the one who posted recommendations while you sat there making blanket criticisms without offering alternatives.
Dumbass it's "Take the pill, pay the bill"
No, you're judging them by a label that you've applied to them, so you can treat them as one lumpen mass you perceive as "out-group" and can dehumanise them accordingly. That actually makes you even worse than someone who judges based on racial prejudice because they at least went the mile to learn something about the individual targets of their prejudice. You just see a label and bark at it, hoping it'll get you some approval from others of your "in-group".
Congratulations, you're worse than a racist.
My point is that you are a hypocrite, you don't want to read it to prove I'm wrong yet you sullied this thread by telling me I'm jealous when clearly I am stating my opinion.
Two minute hate no doubt, all it takes is one bad actor to come up with some bullshit to ruin someone's life or spoil the pot for people who actually need it
lol Yea Forums is more than one person homie.
Zack's fans be like "everyone I don't like is an SJW"
wrong idiots, we're fans of comic books. Try harder.
Well that's obvious, but you really know how to make it clear that you're someone else or not don't you?
He did it because he thinks the it'll look better on his lawsuit. Which isn't going anywhere.
The latter is going to have some serious ramifications in the future, hell we're seeing hints of it now.
When SJWs make a shit comic
>goddamn hate this book
When Zack make a shit comic
>lol like ur.. ur ur just JEALOUS, THAT'S ALL!! REEEEEE
I think you have genuine autism. I have a pretty good autism radar and I would bet you have it. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I'm not putting you down for being autistic, it just makes for a weird conversation that's hard to engage in.
>I'm "Latino" as well (as if that were a race) and I do
Are you a real latino or one of those born out of Hispanics parents in New York, never has visited a country, and still believes he has Hispanic pride?
When an SJW makes a comic it's backed by a multi natural billion dollar corporation. When Zack makes a comic it's one guy doing things out of his own pocket. They're not really equivalent.
strongly agree, before we know it, people with critically thinking skills will soon make Zack and his fanboys look like an idiot by using logic and reason.
>his own pocket
You mean he scams retards.
I bet you suck balls!
Well when you've been wasting months and money supporting something that fails this hard, of course they're going to double down out of spite, cope and get angry at the wrong people.
You're right, we should leave scamming retards to billion-dollar corporations.
You mean he gets special treatment.
No, they're just not equivalent.
>people with critically thinking skills will soon make Zack and his fanboys look like an idiot by using logic and reason.
Like it's been happening already, beneath the screeching of the people you don't like to see on social media?
>Are you a real latino or one of those born out of Hispanics parents in New York, never has visited a country
That's racist quite honestly, typical coming from a elitist SA with an inferiority complex towards white americans.
>Actually, I boycotted the book when it turned out to be generic trash, and that was obviously the correct move.
so you stop reading during red hulk saga?
Billion dollar corperations don't force you to cough up money months before hand and take a year to sloppily shit out a product.
You have the option to look at ir and the choose to not buy. The worst part of this is that this just another example of crowdfunding that's just a mistake on every level.
Nope, I don't even live in the US, nor Mexico (because that's all Americans think about). Try again.
4 hours ago
History is full of good writers have done more with less. Zack isn't one of them, and even with a billion dollar company behind him you would still get a poor product.
Okay that second part was wrong because I forgot about doomsday clock but still it doesn't excuse this shit.
He is not exempt from criticism just because of that, there are dozens of lesser known creators that do much better, and to top it all off Zack said he would save comics with Jawbreakers and he made Mexico.... I mean... He made his followers pay for the creation of it.
I haven't but I don't care. A guy made a product, marketed it, made some money. I see no problem with that whatsoever. This thread is full of losers angry that they are not as successful as someone they don't like. Petty, yet hilarious.
What are you talking about?
No... We are fucking not, we are criticizing the quality of a comic book, we don't care how successful he is.
>Zack said he would save comics with Jawbreakers
he was referring to the fundraiser model combined with social media and not the actual book
speaking of Zack hes got a new vid out
youtube.com
The comic book wasn't successful. It sold to the 12k people who spent hundreds each in order to back a book that wasn't good. He just scamed his followers.
Do you really think Meyer and the whole movement hasn't been fully and thoroughly exposed for what it is by many people beyond losers on Twitter dunking on retards to prove a point? A lot of what many have said here has been the result of years of material compiled against CG, not something that required the expert eye of Yea Forums posters to decipher.
Do I have to spell it out for you?
L-U-R-K
More like they seeing a bunch of suckers play damage control and cope after shitting up the board for months about how Comicgate was going to change things and stick it to SJWs. Petty, but hilarious.
But only 4 books made money and the rest have failed.
Hey maybe you can spend two years cultivating an audience on YouTube. In fact I'm sure you can. I'm sure you're very charming and interesting to listen to.
>EXPOSED
My god, the delusion.
I'm sorry, but you'll have to excuse me user, but...... I LIKE QUALITY OVER QUANTITY!!
>people backed this
how embarrassing.
>but he did jump on a livestream and tell the same story multiple times in a row about CM fans raiding his websites poll.
So basically Only CM fans will stoop to that behaviour but every single people who down vote the movie on Rottern Tomato's is perfectly innocent.
I think the movie looks meh but honestly hate the "movement" more
Meyers sounds like a retard and his cough makes him obnxious to listen to. He got his views by getting people who wanted another GG.
Liar
do you really want me to list all the fundraisers?
>he was referring to the fundraiser model combined with social media and not the actual book
Except crowfunded comic books have been released from way before he arrived, he wasn't doing anything new at all.
>Iron Circus Comics is an American graphic novel publisher founded in 2007 by C. Spike Trotman. Based in Chicago, it is known for publishing the Smut Peddler line of "lady-centric porn"[1] anthologies and graphic novels, and for its pioneering use of crowd-funding sites such as KickStarter to finance graphic novel publishing, raising over $1 million through the platform in its first decade.[1][2][3]
And that's only one of the most remarkable examples, a full decade before Meyer and CG, even.
The only ones that made money were two of meyer's books and cyber frog and the rest of his "friends" got fucked. Unless you mean in general because crowdfunding books isn't new.
400,000 DOLLARS retarding all the way to the bank nigga. God what an inspiration
>inb4: "I'M ACTUALLY SORRY FOR *YOU*
Why on earth would anyone have sympathy for a marvelcuck? You deserve the terrible comics that Marvel shits out, because you'll defend literally anything with the word "marvel" on the cover.
Conversely, normal peopel thought Jawbreakers were merely okay. Psychopathic SJWs are trying to pretend it's the worst thing ever written.
With 3 alimony payments and a 4th one coming I'm sure it'll matter. I guess if all you want to do is scam people than fine. It's not hard to do that.
You losers will spend the rest of your lives crying about other people instead of focusing on your own. I'd say that's sad, but people like you are a predictable demographic. I like dividend checks. Keep on keeping on.
>You deserve the terrible comics that Marvel shits out, because you'll defend literally anything with the word "marvel" on the cover.
Weak, predictable retort. The pic seals the deal.
>Conversely, normal peopel thought Jawbreakers were merely okay.
And well, this is sad. The self-delusion is outstanding.
Have you read Jawbreakers? I wanna hear your opinion. :)
No it was shit and you'd have to be a retard to think it was decent. The only people whonare okay with it are people suffering under buyer's remorse.
>400,000 DOLLARS
of which was likely taxed, spent on shipping, paying for high quality gloss printing, paying for poster and various other milestone goodies and paying for a hack artist.
Probably the only one who came out ahead of this was EVS.
Bad shit deserves to be called out. We did it with america (which was still more entertaining) amd we'll do it with you zack.
You sound like a sad person.
posting that pic just proves that you are trying to sway away from the fact that your argument is invalid.
>Probably the only one who came out ahead of this was EVS.
And that's because he hasn't delivered the product, so technically he hasn't spent a dime yet.
>A lot of what many have said here has been the result of years of material compiled against CG
based retard
Yea Forums, LCS, and the general readership has been shitting on SJWs ruining comics before "comicsgate" even had a name. It's only in the last year that you retards came to Yea Forums with your insane cyberstalking of youtube ecelebs.
We'll call out all of Zacks bad comics together friend.
Doing what he believes in, putting his money where his mouth is––if only all of us could be so ambitious.
Even if he does, he'll be less retarded about shipping. I still can't believe how much of a retard meyer is.
>Yea Forums, LCS, and the general readership has been shitting on SJWs ruining comics before "comicsgate" even had a name.
Know how I know you're a crossboarder?
Speaking of which... I wonder where he gets all the money to spend on all of that Star Wars merch?... Could it be the comic book money?
If only he had the talant behind that ambition. Instead he wasted everyone's time and money.
>The only people whonare okay with it are people suffering under buyer's remorse
But nobody here actually bought it, we read it because it was storytimed a few days ago. The general opinion on it was pretty neutral, until EVS' crazy stalker started flooding the thread with his usual images, and subsequently getting called out (again).
Try again, sweaty. :^)
How many Rose Tico dolls he bought to behead on video? That can't be cheap, even if he buys wholesale.
Because this is Yea Forums, and nobody exclusively sticks to one board?
Know how I know your an offsite tourist?
I was in that thread and only 3 shills were okay with that shitty comic.
>wasted everyone's time
> arguing about it on Yea Forums
Let's not delude ourselves in the idea we value our time
>he made a shit product
BUT HE MADE MONEY
>he probably didn't
BUT HE DID WHAT HE BELIEVED IN.
You keep moving that goal post; are you having some kind of buyer's remorse?
Not only that... But he also bought this huge Jaba the Hut decoration item and a bunch of other shit.
>Except crowfunded comic books have been released from way before he arrived, he wasn't doing anything new at all.
what Meyer did different was the way he used his social media, its all him, its not some kind of professional front or act
>The only ones that made money were two of meyer's books and cyber frog and the rest of his "friends" got fucked. Unless you mean in general because crowdfunding books isn't new.
all of these books where successfully funded
Brutas The Badass - $34,360
RED ROOSTER: Golden Age - $180,762
Jon Del Arroz's Flying Sparks - $31,201
Detective Dead: Crimson Moon - $30,710
LONESTAR: HEART OF THE HERO - $113,366
SOVEREIGN - $24,435
LADY ALCHEMY - $36,625
Stealing Solo: A Captain's Parody - $52,074
BIGFOOT BILL - $196,711
GRAVEYARD SHIFT - $106,096
Black and White - Remastered - $54,673
Brand - $58,563
MEG-SixGun Samurai-Deal with the Devil - $44,451
dont forget that an anti-cg twitter sperg linked the storytime on twitter to raid it
The point is, dear retard, that Yea Forums has always called out bad writing wherever it is. But it's only with CG that dumbasses like you have an issue, because they're "sticking it to SJWs" like you said. But no, based autist, Yea Forums is an equal opportunity board and this also deserves to be shat on.
>what Meyer did different was the way he used his social media, its all him, its not some kind of professional front or act
The difference was that he openly attacked other creators while pushing his own comic, That's all there is to this.
Do you even hear yourself? Did you even read Meyer's comic? Were you even there for the story time?
So he's just a genuine huckster who couldn't put out a decent product?
>Yea Forums, LCS, and the general readership has been shitting on SJWs ruining comics before "comicsgate" even had a name.
except most of knew it was a phase that wouldn't last. Especially since no one gives to fucks about legacy character and just want to read stories about OG characters. The only thing people like you did was fan the flames and stall this shit out as long as possible. Marvel thrives on nerd drama from shit heads like you, if it isn't for disney wanting to pull the plug on marvel, they would have been farming your outrage for another decade.
You guys don't like to admit you're wrong do you?
>expecting anything from the beginning
Not really. Lots of white americans think they’re Hispanic because their second great grandparents came from Panama or something
>The difference was that he openly attacked other creators while pushing his own comic
lol you clearly have an agenda here so don't play this equal opportunity bullshit
That's not moving the goalposts. That's pointing out that every argument you have is stupid and petty
It showed that he knew he wasn't going to get traction otherwise without exploiting angry fanboys, the book or the channel, where the real money is.
he only "openly attacked" the creators when they tried to call him a nazi and a white supremacist for saying their books sucked.
the creators told him to make a comic or shut up so he did and they still tried to get it canned!
>Were you even there for the story time?
yep
so was EVS's stalker and other retards from twitter
there was even a screenshot of a twitter sperg tweeting the post number
What agenda?
>all these pros are shit because they hate their costumers! But here's my comic, funded by OURSELVES, to prove them and the entire industry wrong by making exactly what we've always wanted
>unsurprisingly it's all shit
This guy gets it.
>The only thing people like you did was fan the flames and stall this shit out as long as possible.
>"UHH, ACTUALLY IT'S THE FAULT OF COMIC BOOK READERS THAT WE MADE ALL THESE TERRIBLE DECISIONS THAT THEY HATED"
Sup, unpaid nuMarvel intern.
Except rather than defend the quality of his work you shift to how much money he made. Thats moving the goalpost friendo.
Right and him naming and shaming all those stores that dared to say they wouldn't stock his book were wholly justified because... they dared to exercise their rights as a private business?
I consider it more like baiting butthurt trannys
Its not fucking secret marvel likes selling drama. But go ahead and keep acting that they haven't playing you like a damn fiddle.
I don't need to know your sexual preferences user.
You're a shitposter, you do not care about US or COMICS.
>actually pretending Sam Wilson was gonna be Captain America forever
>actually thinking Iron Man was gonna be dead and shelved
>making a fool out of himself by assuming Cyclops and Wolverine were gone forever
>his absolute idiot face when they all came back within the year
Hell they pulled the same exact bullshit in the 90's so it shouldn't have been a surprise to him. More likely he probably wasn't and was just him baiting the causals.
Look, aside the point of the whole comicsgate drama and wokecrowd this book is still pure shit.
>More likely he probably wasn't and was just him baiting the causals.
or he's an outrage babby that born after 2001.
Yeah? And how's that working out for you guys?
>haha, you fell for our sneaky trick of releasing comics so bad that they upset fans that we're going out of business! JUST AS PLANNED!
>I wonder where he gets all the money to spend on all of that Star Wars merch?... Could it be the comic book money?
he makes a decent amount from superchats each livestream
1 guy even donated money for Bolt Cutters so he could destroy the metal Tico toys
he also sells merch of his own and gets decent money from ad revenue since all he talks about his PG13 content (the original adpocalypse mostly hit gaming and politics channels)
also ad revenue, this past month hes gotten 2.69mill views so you can estimate about 3-6 thousand every 1 million views
>dared to say they wouldn't stock his book
they said they would blacklist Antarctic Press and shit talk them to anyone who would listen all because they where publishing Meyers book.
>I haven't but I don't care. A guy made a product, marketed it, made some money. I see no problem with that whatsoever. This thread is full of losers angry that they are not as successful as someone they don't like. Petty, yet hilarious.
This guy gets it
you know its true because all 4 of the anons bitching about Meyer responded
they seem to be enjoying themselves. Are these you friends user?
It's okay user, you don't have to be ashamed of being homosexual, we all support you, it's okay.
>they said they would blacklist Antarctic Press and shit talk them to anyone who would listen all because they where publishing Meyers book
As they are well within their rights to do as a private business.
Yeah, proving once again that you weren't even a regular comic reader. It's not a new trick, it's old as balls, and it's not just Marvel, DC does it too. It's not a tactic to "trick readers" even, at least not always, it's all meant to allow for more stories and legacy characters to exist.
Only someone who thinks legacy characters are something new would be offended by this.
and hes well within his right to call them out for it
Were still the biggest share of the market, I'm genuinely curious about savage avengers. It looks like what jaw breaker's could have been if it were made by competent people with a cooler cast to choose from.
Was this the most embarrassing of the muh SJWs happenings?
>Bunch of writers take a picture
>Idiots start aimlessly crying about the death by vagina of the industry
>they said they would blacklist Antarctic Press and shit talk them to anyone who would listen all because they where publishing Meyers book.
And the problem with this is...?
They're retailers, who are in no obligation to stock a product they don't like, or even a product they're aware it won't sell. They have to pay out of their pocket to order these, and if they don't know if the product will move, it's pointless to even invest in it. And given Meyer's tactics, you can easily assume the product wouldn't move in the regular market because the only people who paid for it were well invested in "owning the SJWs", not regular folks.
>Only someone who thinks legacy characters are something new would be offended by this.
I don't think there has ever been a crop of legacy characters as bad as the one's we got this decade, and certainly not so close together, so that's definitely something new.
> he's never met a white woman in America
He's within his rights to call to his fans to harass private businesses for practicing their right to not stock a product they don't agree with?
>Dumb fucking fat white incel nerds gatekeep and industry
>Industry is slowly dying and loses in sales to Japanese manga
God you all are fucking awful
>I don't think there has ever been a crop of legacy characters as bad as the one's we got this decade, and certainly not so close together, so that's definitely something new.
With the gift of hindsight I can say that MC2 was pretty goddamn awful with the exception of Mayday.
>to call them out for it
If only that was all he did, but we all know that's not how it went down.
user, a good deal of them were criticizing that Thor "was a woman" and that it was bad for sales, even though Jane Thor sold way more than the entire previous run with Thor Odinson.
If you were a youtuber I would sub to you. Your points are solid.
What fucking business do you know that engages in social media out rage mobs? You assholes crow about rights when it suits you but when someone doesn't want to bake your faggot cake you OD on your HRT
>What fucking business do you know that engages in social media out rage mobs? You assholes crow about rights when it suits you but when someone doesn't want to buy your comic you OD on your HRT
I think you have that backwards
>someone makes offhand joke about how terrible Marvel's editors are
>"STRONK INDEPENDENT WOMAN VICTIMS OF VICIOUS MISOGYNISTIC HATE HOLOCUAST CAMPAIGN, OY VEY!"
And their editors still fucking suck.
> make the rules
> get mad when someone plays by them
It's bad when I can't tell if you're agreeing or arguing. Fucking horseshoes man.
>Reply to a social media post with apocalyptic accusations that have nothing to do with selfies sprinkled with occasional "she looks like a good fuck" type comments
>"I-it was just a prank, bro!"
Well, you're technically right on that one
all i saw was a post by a guy who said he'd fuck Antos
then she cried harassment to the press and people started flooding the post
mainstream picked it up and the posts got even worse
>And the problem with this is
Meyer didnt like that this small company was getting pressured into dropping him, thats why hes suing Waid
>harass private businesses
oh no someone MIGHT have called their store and told them they suck
someone better call the FBI!
>practicing their right to not stock a product they don't agree with
no, for how they where treating AP
> Wants diversity of thought
> Gets mad reading one opinion
>It's only 'just bantz' when I do it
Too bad I don't really like Youtube outrage culture or else I'd be rolling in cash...
Or not, because I probably would be focusing on what I like, not pulling conspiracy shit.
>What fucking business do you know that engages in social media out rage mobs?
As far as I'm aware, the retailers were gathered in a PRIVATE Facebook group, which Meyer leaked. At no point there as a "mob" because for that to happen, it would have been public, and directly against him. Instead it was all about them simply saying they weren't gonna stock the book and were going to notify their costumers against it. Is that a "rage mob" to you?
>What fucking business do you know that engages in social media out rage mobs?
It was a private facebook group you mong. Meyer only found out about it because one of the members leaked the chat to him.
You'd be great either way.
>Private group
that they used to plan their public condemnation of AP for working with Meyer
and to think AP is owned by a POC
why are white people so racist?
Yes but they're people I don't like so it's a secret cabal that colludes\ to conspire against truth and justice and all that good stuff,.
You're still going on about something that it's perfectly legal. These are brick and mortar stores for the most part, not Walmart. And to top it off, here's the double-whammy: They said it wouldn't be a loss because AP's catalog barely even moves anyway.
I mean, argue whatever you like (including that random mention of the CEO being a POC because that's totally relevant), but retailers are within their right to stock the product they want in their store, and you can't force them to order something they know it won't sell.
Part of why these same retailers complained about overshipping, REMEMBER? Were you here for that? It's a very similar issue, to the point Marvel stopped overshipping because many complained about the extra product they couldn't sell.
I think the actual thing people had an issue with is people screeching "I don't care how many people ask for this completely mundane comic, I will never order it on my bizarre moral grounds!"
As a customer, I would kind of want to know if that's the kind of shit they do, even if in "private", so I know to no longer do business with them.
>Part of why these same retailers complained about overshipping, REMEMBER? Were you here for that? It's a very similar issue, to the point Marvel stopped overshipping because many complained about the extra product they couldn't sell.
that's only wrong because marvel is sjw
>You're still going on about something that it's perfectly legal.
and so are you
IT IS PERFECTLY LEGAL FOR MEYER TO SHARE A BUSINESS NUMBER
>I think the actual thing people had an issue with is people screeching "I don't care how many people ask for this completely mundane comic, I will never order it on my bizarre moral grounds!"
Did that even actually happen or are you conflating it with Waid's autism to make a point?
Not when he also engages in tactics that insite a mob to harass people.
You have no idea how LCS's work do you user.
Only female character dressed sluttier than a stripper and had no real purpose other than to be the love interest of one of the guys.
How can we have shipping wars with only one girl?
more info on retailers
bleedingcool.com
the speech is really interesting
>insite a mob
hey guys these people suck for trying to block my book and threatening to blacklist all of AP
>harass
...
maybe people got some messages on twitter? even though they are mostly on facebook and Meyers followers where mostly on twitter.
maybe someone called their stores but none of the owners even complained about callers
not that user but here ya go
>maybe someone called their stores but none of the owners even complained about callers
I don't think you should judge the severity of an action based on the lack of consequences. He still went and posted full addresses for the stores that weren't gonna stock his book, as if THAT was a good strategy to get other stores to do it. Think about it for a second: a retailer who happens to see his tweets about how all the mean retailers don't want Jawbreakers isn't gonna feel compelled to do it. Meyer had a large follower base that received those messages, there was a responsibility to carry there.
Had I been him, I would've promoted the retailers who DO stock my book, while ignoring the rest. It's what a pro would do. If you have 5 signings in a city while 3 stores in another rejected you for X reason, spending time talking about these 3 stores instead of the other 5 is asinine.
Shit story, shit art, shit characters, shit design, shot plot and an even shittier sense of humor.
0/10 Now if you exscuse me, I'm gonna go on deviant art.
heh
stfu
i agree with most of your post
but he had only 16K followers most of which did not interact with or retweet him.
it was still unprofessional but hes retard what do you expect.
>Had I been him, I would've promoted the retailers who DO stock my book
and those stores would have been targeted by people who hate Meyer just like AP was
Peter Simeti isn't even cg and he got shit for retweeting customers who used Meyers hashtag. he was even recently swatted.
>deviant art
Yikes. Enjoy your tranny/furry porn.
go fuck yourself
Well I don't justify what happened to him, for sure. I just think it's better to promote positivity if you assume yourself as the leader (or representative) of a movement that allegedly wants to be better.
Attacks and conspiracies against retailers who are simply picking a product shouldn't be tolerated, although it's a bit of a nuanced view because, for instance, there's actual music stores promoting and selling literal nazi stuff (I'm not talking Trump Force or whatever, I mean real deal, eagle/wolf/swastika shit), and then there's metalheads justifying it because "freedom of speech", then cry about boycotts. There's many examples of this but that's offtopic.
In any case, things like these don't happen in the comics industry as far as I'm aware, these shitty CG comics are often pretty mild anyway and don't warrant these fierce backlashes, but comic fans are super petty and get hung up on menial shit.
Rather do that than jack it to tranny/furry porn. Don't you have an animal to get aroused by elsewhere?
So the "moral grounds" part is inferred?
Because I remember during that debacle it got out that people were preordering it from outside of the country in order to force it onto shelves, and in light of that it does make sense to change how special orders are run.
Yeah posting fake pull lists from a comic that wasn't even listed because meyers thought that would be a good way to #movetheneedle. What a fucking idiot.
°) Immortal Hulk #11: 41,010
°) Immortal Hulk #12: 41,331
That's pretty good sales considering it's very rare for a mid-list book to be stable like that. I haven't really picked up the book on a regular basis, though.
>people were preordering it from outside of the country in order to force it onto shelves
that was 1 guy on twitter saying he wouldn't go to the store because it wouldn't stock the book.
the owner replied "you dont even live in this country." or something like that
there was no "preordering"
>Get based Finch to do the cover
>Mike Deotraceo is doing the actual art
Blech. There goes my interest.
Despite the horrible ass comic book and stuff he did over social media.... Is it bad I want to fuck him?
I meant Richard Meyer, as in have intercourse with him.
Why are you such a bitch...... Are you on your hormones or something.... Jesus cool off.
>Is it bad I want to fuck him?
He's not ugly, but he looks pretty bland.
Why are you crying about your hormones here? This is for comic discussion. Go away. Shoo.
Devildog (the one in the red armor), if I remember correctly.
Having a black guy doesn't make you not racist.
a decent guy wanted to break away from the shitty industry and make something not marred in clumsy political propaganda.
This asshurt Mavel. A lot. So they launched a social media campaign of bullshit and ended up getting his comic pulled from the published despite the contract while they patted themselves on the back.
Then it came out anyway and was ok.
go to bed Zack
>Lol if you don't like the way comics are right now why not go publish your own loser
>ok.
>WTF YOU CAN'T DO THAT!
basically
Based Marvel and DC should be the only ones making and distributing comics !!!FACT!!! They have a little something I like to call uhh QUALITY CONTROL that this incel internat loser doesn't even know the first thing about! I mean how pathetic can you get that not only do you not like the amazing stories and epic characters Marvel and DC both lovingly put out week after week, but you walk out to poorly try to insert your own right wing retard agenda into a book and it doesn't even sell and it's generic trash! I'd laugh if it werren't so pathetic
The comic was okay, but watching Waid get destroyed in court is going to be far more hilarious.
>comic was okay
How much did it cost you?
Learn how to read
And learn how to make a better insult too...
Exactly $00.00
How can you read that shit?
I was smiling and this post made me stop smiling.
So you shill for free. Because it was terrible and boring mostly boring which is worse than terrible though.
By being literate and making sure I put my contacts in.
who cares
if by destroyed you mean walk away scott free because he did nothing wrong then sure
Jawbreakers is a fucking mess from a writing and art standpoint, but Meyer has an actual passion for comics and truly wants to see them shine in a time where the Big 2 are dying horribly and the industry about to become Japan's bitch. Yes, there are other publishers, but they are also doing horribly.
>IDW lost 90% of revenue from the year before and just had a CEO resign after 7 months
>Dark Horse is just Hellboy and Beserk
>Image shambling along with Saga and Walking Dead
Jawbreakers and Iron Sights were probably the easiest sell of all time despite its obvious flaws because the American industry is THAT BAD.
>"BUYER'S REMORSE!"
>No one here bought it, we just read the storytime
>"FUCK, SWITCH TACTICS... UHHH... YOU DO IT FOR FREE!"
Still doesn't work, because I'm not singing it's praises. It was okay. Not sure what your panties are in a bunch about.
I think you forgot those contacts when you read it.
I'm gonna change that.
Because it was terrible. The art was bad and the dialog was written by someome who stopped learning in middleschool. I don't know how dumb you'd have to be to think anhthing less of it.
Admit it you fanboy, the book was dumb.
So what's your plan.
>I don't know how dumb you'd have to be to think anhthing less of it.
Because unlike you, I'm not a butthurt discord tranny with a bone to pick.
Go dilate, or something.
>he actually shills for free
>fanboy
You got me. I've secretly been a fan of "black shirtless guy in an armored vest" for years now, and I'm glad that he's finally getting included in a team book.
I'm gonna plan a script by deciding what stuff I want to work with and check if I want it, then go over it to see if there are any flaws and then fix them, then I will decide a medium for my art and then start making design concepts then when I think I want it I will add that to my graphic novel by taking my time to make sure the graphic novel turns out right. Then when I am done making the novel I will have someone to read it for me to give me their review on it to see if it works, in fact I'll let more than one person review it, if I like the results I'll Either sell it or let people read it for free.
X doubt
>discord tranny
I'm guessing this is a Yea Forums or /pol/ thing because it sounds stupid.
>currently is working on getting a negro one
Will he have the power of a 1000 slaves?
Honestly, if Waid had done NOTHING, if everyone had ignored Zack, Jawbreakers probably would have fizzled out and no one would have given much of a shit.
>Those sales
Noice.
It's a /r9k/ thing but it's spread and yes it is stupid.
You're asking far too much of these people.
These are the kind of people who are trying to SWAT publishers for printing a comic book.
It probably still will fizzle out anyway considering how these guys can't seem to stay consistent in putting them out monthy, and the only ones talking about the comics are the fanboys and outragefags that don't buy anything.
"Oh noes, that guy is a raisist and saxist!"
The state of /co fags.
There was no swatting. There'd have been actual news reports about it.
It literally happened in the middle of a livestream, you psycho.
Can we just fucking agree both sides of CG are spergs? It's really getting tiresome that we're trying to pin it all on one side.
coward faggot.
No, because one "side" ruined Marvel and DC comics, including characters people used to give a shit about, while having a strangehold over the industry, and are now actively trying to harm smaller publishers and independent creators.
The other side... makes youtube videos, apparently?
The worst thing is those oldfag comic fans praise this obvious trash like an sjw cult. If they are really satisfied with it the industry doedn't need to be saved at all.
I'm gonna start working tonight on my graphic novel, even if it's a small portion, I'll try my hardest.
Good luck user.
If Ya Boi Zach can do it, so can you.
>with less
He has EVS a professional artist on his side, fuck off
Thank you.
Don't namefag when you shill it here. We know you will. Godspeed.
Thank you, this means a lot to me.
Maybe he got quiet because he didn't want to bother arguing with you not because you persuaded him.
>t. owner who got owned
Bruh i think D&C is an ass mostly but you seem very upset
fpbp
He'd not even a good youtuber, why did anyone assume he could write a comic? Malin's also a shit artist, so at least no one wasted their talent.
>Jawbreakers and Iron Sights were probably the easiest sell of all time despite its obvious flaws because the American industry is THAT BAD.
Jawbreakers and Iron Sights were the easiest sell of all time, because their target audience is that stupid and tasteless.
It's crazy how much he could whip idiots into a frenzy. It probably helps that he's mentally not all there, so his core audience will never feel talked down to. But he was able to scam them out of tons of money, and basically leave EVS as the "face of the movement". He'll probably lose all his money in his lawsuit, but he was exactly as smart as he needed to be to get paid at least for now.
I am curious if there is enough "own the libs" money left if he tries another book. Jawbreakers is the most units any CG book ever sold, about 11K.
Oh look, EVS' crazy stalker is back:
desuarchive.org
>Implying you wouldn't hire an indonesian child to draw your dream comic for pennies a page
Yes, we know what a psycho you are.
desuarchive.org
Look at this psycho!
desuarchive.org
Chill out, guy.
You chill out, you lib piece of shit!
desuarchive.org
Fuck, ignore that, wrong image!
desuarchive.org
Do you follow EVS on Twitter or Youtube? You should send him those links. Apparently he's started documenting "anti-comicsgate threats and harassment" after the previous two swatting attempts against people, and this guy seems obsessed enough to fit the bill.
Nothing wrong with a dude reminding people what a piece of shit EVS is when a thread pops up every few days. Defending him obsessively on the other hand is outright autism.
>which is hilarious because Japan is pretty much taking over markets internationally)
What market?
completely same with amerimutt animation companies. even meyer, whos anti sjw, is this lazy even though its old
no wonder the comic and cartoon industries are collapsing and totally inferior to manga and anime ones
He just wants some more of the gofundme money for lawyer costs. Watch this develop, he'll start one and never offer receipts of the expenses. He's an experienced hustler and he knows how assblasted his community is over those two,three twitter randos who have nothing else to do than "oppose comicsgate" on twitter. I like his style, you retards deserve to get scammed over and over again.
>LOOK JUDGE
>THEY'RE MAKING FUN OF ME ON A TAIWANESE BASKET WEAVING FORUM
>Both eye and the artist our veterans
Maybe they rejected it because they didn't believe an actual writer could write this poorly.
>^They actually think this.
>they actually don't
There are a million reasons why comic shops are failing, and the diversity push is more of a side effect than a cause. Diversity pushing in comics is just one of many last ditch efforts to save a dying animal.
Oh no! Not gunning down evil people! We need to be more like the Austin police and let criminals get away with their crimes because of their skin color
Since that was months ago, and you're sharing this with no comment, I'll assume nothing happened. Did no one notice Meyer, or did his bitch ass just not go?
not sure
i know he went to several cons and gave out extra issues of his old books
its funny how angry he makes people.
B Clay Moore and others got exposed for fantasizing about triggering Meyers and then punching him at a con.
Richard Pace has been raging about the fundraiser "scams" for months and kept saying the books will never be shipped, wich is funny cuz hes years late on his own fundraised book.
>not sure
So nothing fucking happened. He'd bitch about it if it did, and he's boast about going to the con if he did. It's embarrassing seeing people talk up these faggot youtubers, as if Meyer didn't suck cock his entire time in the service.
Yea Forumsmblr.
No, the other guy's the gay one. The one that used to draw Green Lantern.
yea he has now taken the title of "God of Gays"
i think hes embracing the meme now
Won't Miller sacrifice him to God if he comes out of the closet?
Superman go on Chapo
lovely comic
Again, people get mad at them when you sick fans on them. And don't play coy that's been his deal the entire time and if he hadn't done that with his twitter wh'd never have gotten the views.
shut up
>Again, people get mad at them when you sick fans on them.
Meyer: I think this comic sucks, they dumped a bunch of the old popular characters in favor of random minorites so they can brag how woke they are.
Pro: fuck you its not wrong to want more diversity
Meyer: hey this pro is angry at me on twitter heres the tweet and why i disagree
Pro: YOU NAZI PIECE OF SHIT!
Meyer: wtf is wrong with pros? look at this new tweet
Pro: NAZI NAZI NAZI, this is harassment!
Meyer: i dont know why they are acting like this
Pro: Nazis are tweeting at me that i suck, all his fans are NAZIS
Meyer: fuck you im not a nazi and neither are my fans.
Pro: (Spams his real name with a bunch of outrageous accusations and colludes with news site writers to smear him.)
Meyer: fuck you too
Pro: why is everyone so mean to me?
>that comic
school has failed this man
>ignoring his habit of directly engaging these people on twitter
> it was so bad because of his retarded lawsuit he got rid of over 10k tweets because he knew how bad they made him look
Do you not remember when argued about neil gaimans career to neil gaiman. Or his retardedly named dark roast in which he engages in full on defamation with the people he's harassed. Meyers is no harmless actor in these and I wouldn't bother to know this shit if his garbage wasn't spammed on Yea Forums.
this goes for all of your posts here: you're either a talented baiter or one of the more neurotic tumblrinas out there. either way it's pretty entertaining, so I don't really care.
The only comicsgate threads allowed should be storytimes. So the next one should be in 2021, when CYBERFROG: CHINESE DEMOCRACY ships.
That's a surprisingly hilariously accurate summary.
>dark roast in which he engages in full on defamation
roasts are deliberately hyperbolic
all he said was the fat old comic pros are creepy and Antos is a cumdumpster who got hired for being a chick.
>lawsuit he got rid of over 10k tweets because he knew how bad they made him look
> the people he's harassed.
>Meyers is no harmless actor in these
Meyer: your books sucks
Pro: NAZI NAZI NAZI
just because you call something "harassment" does not make it so.
>I wouldn't bother to know this shit if his garbage wasn't spammed on Yea Forums.
Bullshit you use the same talking points as all the circlejerking retards on twitter
yout throw out stuff like "harassment" without any concrete proof and when confronted you throw out more nebulous stuff.
I don't go on twitter and that "roast" was blank face calling writers pedos. It's harasment because he goes out and seeks these people and actively engages with them. I get meyers shill. He can
Weird I got cut off oh well. Point is, I don't care enough about this to save twitter screenshots.
dont forget
tumblr/co/: Why are you posting about this person? I don't even know him or follow him. Yet for some reason I hate him and can list every fuck up he had in the past 2 years along with references
I know him because you faggots kept fucking spamming him here for over 2 years.
>tumblr/co/: Why are you posting about this person? I don't even know him or follow him. Yet for some reason I hate him and can list every fuck up he had in the past 2 years along with references
It's not /tumblr/co; it is quite literally just one psycho stalker.
>I don't go on twitter
i doubt that
>blank face
obviously hyperbolic and laughing at his own dumb jokes throughout the vid
just because you say it wasn't a joke doesn't make it so.
>It's harassment because he goes out and seeks these people and actively engages with them.
they talk shit about him and he responds
stop lying
>I don't care enough about this to save twitter screenshots.
because you dont really have any to back up your claims
all he every really said was that mags looks like a man in a wig and he said that on his youtube vid (since then has apologized to her)
Why do you think the stalker only posts random dumb tweets about EVS?
because Meyer hasnt done much but tell people their books suck, when they get mad and call him a nazi he responds.
Forgot this link
youtube.com
It's shit. Comicsgate is shit. SJW's are shit. Capeshit is shit. I shit on the United States.
>it is quite literally just one psycho stalker.
This guy? twitter.com
this, his misogyny and racism is very blatant, nice to see fellow progressives who will take a stand against this hate in our hobby!
I don't know twitter faggots, I only know some guy has been randomly showing up into threads, posting the exact same images and the exact same retarded talking points for at least months on end:
Laughing at something doesn't stop it from being blank faced defamation and proof that he harasses people. He engages with them first because he knows his fanbase likes that shit. That's all he ever does. I saw them when that cuck spammed Yea Forums tonget more people to join him. Meyers doesn't do that shit anymore because if he pretends he didn't than the judge will favor him in his retarded case with waid. That's why he deleted over 10k of his tweets. which is a fact I only know because someone brought it up months ago when people were arguing about the fucking lawsuit. I'm mad because this shit doesn't belong in Yea Forums and I'm sick of seeing this shit spammed. I'm also glad his book is shit because he has no talent. Now i just wish you'd stay on his discord and stop bringing this fuck up.
Comic book.
Comedic book.
What do you think "comic" means?
nobody knows which person is the stalker shitting up Yea Forums, everyone noticed a pattern and anons started to bring attention to it using desuarchive as evidence.
there are several suspects
Lauren Cooper aka Ranfamous a landwhale who self inserts for attention pic here -doxxed a Meyer supporter
-has tweeted out the Yea Forums Storytime links to her retarded fans on twitter
-obsessively stalks EVS's twitter and yells racist and harassment at every turn.
-plays the victim
Late Night Comics
-shit talked a widow even after EVS told everyone she is a good person and should be left alone
-sent death threats to Billy Tucci and random EVS friends
-threatened to doxx random people on twitter
- eventually banned on twitter so went to farms to sperg
Meyer's gay German Stalker
-stalking meyers for years on facebook
-convinced meyers is gay and will marry him if he met him
-leaked the "dark roast" vid
SJW spiderman
-clips vids out of context to make Meyer/EVS to sound racist and homophobic
Susan Auger
-tried to get Meyers Patreon taken down for harrassment talked about it with ANtos
Joe Glass
-filed false DMCAs against Meyers youtube channel to get it nuked, bragged about it so youtube reversed the strikes
Melissa Morgue (not real name)
-legit crazy
-would talk about Meyers daughter
-posted dead bodies on their twitter
-faked being a woman, turns out its an old fat married man
-got so creepy Meyer called the police
youtube.com
EVS's creepy irl stalker
-became irl friends with EVS's wife to get closer
-lied about sick kid fans to get EVS's wife to give his phone number
-sent art to EVS's house unsolicited for him to sign and got mad when he wouldnt
-wrote a weird hit piece on ign forums about how EVS ignored his friendship and was a terrible person for not doing what he wants
EVS's other stalker
-was a real friend
-got mad for some reason and wrote a giant ass blog smearing him
there are more stalkers but post is too long
why are there so many mentally ill people in comics? this is just bizarre.
>why are there so many mentally ill people in comics?
It's been a genre popular with social rejects for decades, no surprise there. The internet just gives them a voice.
>Laughing at something doesn't stop it from being blank faced defamation
obvious joke was obvious, just because you where offended doesn't make it harassment, get over it faggot.
>that cuck spammed Yea Forums
he talked about Yea Forums once when a post talking about Waid being crazy got a bunch of replies
> if he pretends he didn't than the judge will favor him in his retarded case with waid
The truth is not a defense in a tortious interference case, meyers being a dick dosnt matter.
>I'm mad because this shit doesn't belong in Yea Forums and I'm sick of seeing this shit spammed.
your so full of shit
your spewing the same trumped up claims against meyer that all the other oversensitive retards use
it all boils down to "i dont like him and he was rude, so he shouldn't be allowed to make money or a comic!"
Meyer is a Yea Forums creator now whether you like it or not
>Now i just wish you'd stay on his discord and stop bringing this fuck up.
you mean "stop challenging me on my bullshit claims"
face it all this bs happened because a bunch of hacks in comics where too sensitive
one retard reviewing comics on a cellphone in his closet triggered an entire industry and got him over 500K for his shitty books
even before he was big many pros where trying to get his patreon and youtube shutdown over false claims,
...How the fuck does he have this many stalkers?
He's a fairly unremarkable individual, and hasn't even been involved in mainstream comics for a long time now.
i forgot to add
most of the random posts where about EVS's little fanclub called "The War Campaign"
you would see the same random twitter screenshots and the poster bitching about EVS in random threads, even when the thread had nothing to do with EVS.
eventually people realized that the poster would go into threads on topics that EVS or his friends where talking about in recent vids.
why are there so many mentally ill people in comics? this is just bizarre.
this the problem with comics is how close the pros and indies are with the comic news sites.
DC told EVS to delete his youtube, he refused as it was the only way to defend himself without having to rely on comic sites that wrote the hit pieces on him.
Gaiman said he thinks Dnc and EVS are wrong, when people told him not to read bs he said he read 4 different articles!
but all the articles are biased
since then EVS and Meyer helped boost right leaning comic book sites so even if they left the pros still have to deal with comic sites that don't blindly support them and will document their spergings.
youtube.com
Antos was didnt want to be interviewed for the show, she then raged at Comedy Central for making fun of Meyer instead of treating him like a serious threat to WOC
>Immortal Hulk
yes great comic, I especially loved the nuanced discussion about white privilege in it! nice to see comics that tackle the important issues of our days