Why can't DC take a cue from the very popular cartoons and follow suit...

Why can't DC take a cue from the very popular cartoons and follow suit? Why this retarded crap with both Robin and Starfire being young adults and mentors, Raven and Beast Boy been tennagers and distant friends at best, and Cyborg being an adult who doesn't know any of them?

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DC hates pleasing its reader base. Take the current Superman books. Everybody was enjoying Superman being married to Lois and trying to be a good father to their son, Jon. But DC is trying to purposely shitting on it.

Because Starfire and Dick have to be the same age.

The problem is why they can't all be the same age like before.

The New 52 changes were retarded as fuck.

DC doesn’t want to retcon New 52 TT away even though everyone hates it.

>cartoons
>popular

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TT and TTG are popular which way you cut it.

They tried and it never sold better. Then gave up during New 52 and tried again during Rebirth.

I'm more amazed by the fact that they aren't going to make a Titans movie anytime soon and instead just made a TV show that they tried to make as another Daredevil take on superheroes and couldn't understand why everyone hated it.

>They tried and it never sold better.
They never tried to follow the cartoons cue. They tried to replicate the NTT run in the most retarded ways.

>Why can't DC take a cue from the very popular cartoons and follow suit?

Because DC is always behind the times. They never strike when the iron is hot.

That's because they regulated it to their all-ages ghetto, Johnny DC.

Watch as Doom Patrol's success throws Warner for a loop.

>people really love Robin/Nightwing, Starfire, Raven, Beast Boy, and Cyborg as Teen Titans
>i know what to do: lets put them in other teams far away from each other
>people really love Robin/Nightwing and Starfire as a couple
>i know what to do: lets keep them both as huge sluts that never settle with anyone
>people really love Beast Boy and Raven as a couple
>i know what to do: lets have Raven paired with anyone BUT Beast Boy
>people really love Cyborg as a fun and athletic guy
>i know what to do: lets have Cyborg as an angsty guy who just sits around processing information
>people really love the dynamic between these characters
>i know what to do: lets retcon stuffs so they never met each other and are all in different age groups

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Everyone didn't hate it

DC did the same stuff with the Young Justice characters. Pretty much stripped away everything that made these characters interesting and fun, then started to kill them off one by one.

Remember what happened with Blue Beetle after the New 52 reboot where the writer of the book pretty much did the exact opposite the original comic series had done, taking away all the charm and fun from the character and setting?

>people really love Robin/Nightwing and Starfire as a couple
>i know what to do: lets keep them both as huge sluts that never settle with anyone

But isn't Starfire supposed to be a slut?

>people really love Beast Boy and Raven as a couple
They do? I thought it was only retarded shippers who do that. Raven paired with almost anyone makes more sense than with Garf.

Dick should be Robin

People like Beast Boy and Raven as a couple. I don't see the appeal, but i know a lot of people are into it. If i were an comic editor i'd make it a thing simple because of it. It makes sense. Keep the readers happy.

And no, Starfire wasn't supposed to be a slut. Not even Robin/Nightwing was. These things happened as a consequence of their derailment.

>>people really love Robin/Nightwing and Starfire as a couple
From what I have seen on forums people prefer Nightwing being shipped with Barbara Gordon. It's not like neither will actually happen anyway.

I see a lot of people complaining about Nightwing/Batgirl will-they-won't-they.

Because the answer isn't "they will". Way more people have read Batman than Teen Titans.

The Nightwing/Batgirl thing was mostly developed in Birds of Prey and Nightwing, and it wasn't that well thought-out and written. If anything most people think of the cartoons, where Batman cucked Nightwing.

Why not just ask for a new universe where it matches the TT canon, and not regress the characters that already existed?

The New 52 version have been regressed and are shitty as fuck., though. I mean, are you enjoy Ric Grayson?

Cyberborg has always been angsty though, it just wasn't as bad.

Is Robin about to put on that mask and go shoot up a load of criminals?
Shit looks like it could be Hotline Miami

Bendis seems to be fixing the damage done to the YJ characters. If he can successfully reverse all of the damage done to them by Johns and Lobdell then maybe he's actually good for something.
The Nightwing, Starfire and Batgirl ship war/ love triangle needs to die. The best solution is for all of them to get together with each other.

DC has made so many sketchy and questionable decisions over the years, but they won't put three characters in a relationship with each other.

From what I understand the people running DC aren't interested in creating a new universe for anything because of the failure of Earth 2's failure during New 52 and the reception of the Earth 1 books.

At this point, most of the TT/Titans characters(the ones who are still alive,anyway) need to be regressed or retooled because of all the damage writers did over the years.
Ric Grayson was a mistake.

The only things New 52 did right with the TT was Terra being an antihero and Bunker.

Although we've reached a point where Beast Boy being red is better than whatever Abnett is doing with him now.

With all the stuff toon fans want from the animation to be in the comics, I don't think this is one of them. Most people would be fine with Toon Titans style stuff with Dick as Nightwing, so long as his basic personality and role is the same.

Raven x Beast Boy used to THE most popular ship on the internet. Most fanfics, most fanart, etc. It was like that for years. People absolutely fucking love the pairing.

They fucked up their generations with the new 52 by trying to keep Dick and Starfire unrebooted(despite the fact the only other titan member to survive initially was Roy) Raven and BB being put in lobdells titans, and Cyborg being promoted to the Justice leagues set so the league would have a black guy and hopefully keep WB from wanting to replace Hal Jordan in the eventual Justice league movie with John Stewart(instead we ended up with no GL at all because of how toxic the GL movie made a the franchise marketing wise). Also perplexing ios them trying to move starfire back to the "teen" generation the point they didn't acknowledge her as a member of the retconned Titans team restored by titans hunt/rebirth.

Besides the Teen Titans cartoon I think DC should take cues from the Static Shock cartoon for Static. His supporting cast and villains and a lot of other things are better in the cartoon than in the comics.

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This is another big one of DC just not taking a huge opportunity to push a character. It's like... for example take all the current comics they produced with Batman Beyond. What the fuck were they thinking? They launch the BB comic with a convoluted as fuck event - Futures End - and who's starring the BB comic? Not Terry, that's who. It's an unrecognizable version of Tim. Why? Just fucking why? Eventually they realized that nobody cared for what they were paddling and introduce Terry quickly to the comic, but the setting remained unrecognizable because Neo Gotham now is some apocalyptic nightmare instead of a dystopic one.

It's like how can you fuck something so simple, DC?

What's the appeal?

>how can you fuck something so simple, DC?
Hire writers who clearly just want to do their own shit and have no respect or knowledge of the canon to write established properties

It still kinda is considering how popular Gabriel Picolo got. Thing is, DC kinda dropped the ship. Remember, Beast Boy and Raven didn't appear on New 52 until ONE YEAR after the relaunch, and they decided to ship Beast Boy with Terra anyway. DC is more interested in remaking The Judas Contract as much as they can.

You know, regarding the Nightwing, Starfire, and Batgirl thing, i wouldn't be against Nightwing and Batgirl being a couple, but whoever right these characters like to write them as a toxic friends to lovers thing where they're constantly cucking one another with other people where they hurt themselves and set their relationship back, all so they can later reconcile again and try to give each other one more chances, before cucking one another yet again. And why? What's the goddamn appeal?

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And shipping Raven to any Robin - Dick, Tim, Damian - or any Kid Flash - Wally, Wallace.

Nightwing and Batgirl was built on cuckoldry. You can't escape it.

The John Stewart thing just goes to show how DC editors and writers are pretty much undermining DC with their stupidity. Lots of normies still think of Green Lantern as that black dude from the JL. Why go against it? Now They've not only fucked the JL franchise, because nobody likes Cyborg there, but also the TT franchise, because everybody miss Cyborg there.

The appeal is just "it's how it should be!" faggotry from nostalgic batfags who would prefer that the DC universe was just Gotham and all other characters ceased to exist.

You are ignoring that Hal Jordan was selling around the same numbers as Batman during that time. From their perspective it was easier to kick Martian Manhunter our of the team and replace him with Cyborg using the popularity of the Teen Titans cartoon. Plus, Johns liked him.

They have a fun dynamic. Their interests aren't aligned and their personalities aren't similar, but they compliment one another well. And beneath the veneer of cheer, Beast Boy has a lot more in common with Raven than any of the other Titans. It's pretty simple really, it's not a ship I can say I care about, but I do think most of the detractors are simply suffering from advanced stage waifuism.

>everyone hated it.
It has certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.

>You are ignoring that Hal Jordan was selling around the same numbers as Batman during that time
Let's be honest that was almost entirely due to the world-building and The Supporting Cast

There is no middle ground for the TV show, people either love it or hate it.

Cartoons are more popular than comic books 100% of the time. I don't know how you haven't noticed this by now.

>And no, Starfire wasn't supposed to be a slut.
Wasn't she? I never read the 80's Teen Titans comics, but from what I've gathered they were all very different from how the 2003 show (which made them popular with normies) portrayed them.

At it´s absolute peak, a comic book may sell around a million prints (golden age superman/captain marvel), while even a reasonably sucessful cartoon will have millions of viewers on tv and many millions more on video clips. There really isn´t any doubt there.

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He's way more popular as Robin. None of the other Robins makes sense

Well it´s probably hard to understand what she is if you are a puritan, but I guess the bottom line is that she is confortable with her emotions and revels in them rather than repress them. In that sense, 2003 starfire is very much like her comic version if you take sensuality out.

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Why?

Dick outgrew the role and is better as Nightwing. People want to see Nightwing leading the Titans, not Ric or Damian.
Tim makes sense with the YJ crew and could work with some members of the Titans.

Damian only works when the team is designed to suit him(the current TT run)and even then he manages to alienate everyone.

I really feel that Damian works better as a solo act or part of a duo and not as a long term member of any team.

Jason has the Outlaws. He should get a bigger team though. All he has is Bunker, Bizarro and Artemis.

Then again, DC has killed off so many Titans/TT characters that putting together a roster will be difficult. Especially if Abnett decides to kill someone before Titans ends(which is soon).

Honestly I think the best way to make a Titans comic (as opposed to a teen titans comic) is to have each titan having their separate lives and the comic being about those moments when they need help and call upon their former teammates.

So you could have nightwing in bludhaven, raven exorcising demons, beastboy searching for exotic species and places, cyborg working with the league, starfire rebuilding her civilization, etc but then maybe bludhaven gets attacked by a techno virus so nighting asks for cyborg´s expertise, or maybe starfire encounters some cosmic aberration that needs raven´s insight to be dealt with, or even gar decides to hire deathstroke to help against some paramilitary group, that kind of thing.

This also avoids the unconfortable feeling of them being adults who stick around each other because didn´t manage to move on. And they should NEVER be seen as inferior to the JL, just as a completely different setup. The JLA/titans special got this right, for example..

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In fact, if they revert Dick back to Robin people will be EXTREMELY furious.

>He's way more popular as Robin. None of the other Robins makes sense
Let's never forget all the iconic not-Golden Age stories he has as Robin, like...
Teen Titans Year One? All Star Batman And Robin?

>DC hates pleasing its reader base.
Pretty sure that's not the case since they've got no problem of giving their fans an overdose of Batman crap. Which is what their reader base wants essentially.

Didio hates the Titans.