Times you've disagreed with South Park?
I didn't really like the message at the end of, "Weed makes you okay with being bored, and that's not okay". Anything could make you okay with being bored, like watching TV, drinking beer, napping, whatever.
Bloody Mary's message of, "It's okay in moderation" was a lot better.
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Maybe Matt and Trey had a lot of stoner burn out friends that soured their experience on the whole thing?
"and... It's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or... being creative."
Not everyone wants to get into a creative or STEM-based field or even have those as a hobby. Some people are content with an 8-hour shift at some restaurant, then going home and smoking to relax before they have to go to sleep the next day and do it all again.
It's kind of dumb logic that you should be spending all free time learning something when usually, the time is spent trying to get it to pass with entertainment or something recreational.
>Some people are content with an 8-hour shift at some restaurant, then going home and smoking to relax before they have to go to sleep the next day and do it all again
But that's their point: You shouldn't be okay with just that. And even if you decide that you prefer to spend your free time as a passive non-entity, it's probably going to make everyone around you who isn't a fellow stoner think less of you, because living that way means you're kind of a loser.
>You shouldn't be okay with just that.
But why, exactly? Why should a person change how they spend their free time because of their judgmental peers?
It's the same problem I have when a teacher tries to shame you by saying, "You'll be working as a janitor" or "You're going to work at McDonalds" as if those are inherently shameful jobs and not because the teacher is an asshole who is projecting shame on it.
As opposed to a more meaningful existence doing something else?
Don't try to explain it. People who have been conditioned to think that your life is meant to be spent a certain way can't be convinced otherwise.
Don't even try to explain it, user. There are people who desperately want to live like bugs because the thought of putting any effort in bettering themselves causes overwhelming anxiety.
>Being an artist or aspiring to be an artist automatically makes your life better
Majority of artists are fucking depressed, the creative field is one of the most saturated fields around, and it's also shit like Hollywood that pushes the idea of being a creative looks like a super glamorous life on the outside specifically because they WANT to exploit you, and you fell for it.
A shit ton of people in the writing, arts, music, acting, comedian, or entertainment business are miserable fucks that end up killing themselves on drug overdoses regardless.
Yes, submit user. Don't stress yourself with expression user. Asking questions will lead you nowhere user. Come smoke with us before your 12 top table comes in for the next 40 years of your life user.
To all the brainlets in this thread who are missing the point.
Weed isn't a hobby, but it eats up time like one.
And a lot of people treat it like a lifestyle that a lot of their existence revolves around. Which is flat boring when the majority of your personality is based on what kind of fucking plant you smoke.
>imma th' bestest peasant ever
if you're not scheming to break out into hedgefunds or biglaw or something then you're pretty much just wasting your time slaving for a slightly higher percentage of discretionary income and a trim level on your sedan
So does watching TV, using the internet, playing video games, going out to clubs, taking daily naps, snacking.
Like, why would stamp collecting somehow be considered better than spending your free time smoking weed? Stamp collecting isn't going to benefit humanity, and if you're fine with smoking weed, why should you let other people control what makes you happy?
It's, again, why I think Bloody Mary's message of, "You don't have to do all or nothing. Moderation is the key to life" is a lot better. It's fine to smoke weed if you don't let it consume you, and obsessive consumption is not a problem limited to (Or even primarily associated with) smoking weed. Too much of anything is bad, but this episode seemed to suggest that you should never smoke weed because it will 100% lead you down a life of being a vegetable.
And between all the different vices out there like cigarettes and alcohol, weed is the least harmful to yourself and others.
Peasants are the reason why you're able to shit in your toilet without having the sewer system back up on you and flood your home with crap.
Yes, you shouldn’t work more than 12 hours a week.
>Bloody Mary's message of, "It's okay in moderation" was a lot better.
That message was also implied in this episode
>lol who els is gona do ur farming
Where in the episode? Randy specifically says:
>Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and ...it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but... Well son, pot makes yuu feel fine with being bored and... It's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or... being creative. If you smoke pot you may grow up to find out that you aren't good at anything.
That suggests a pretty "all or nothing" approach.
Yes... Literally the entire reason you're able to put food on your plate is because of people who run farms, shipping companies, and and grocery stores. Were you trying to be clever, or? You think fucking artists are more valuable than farmers?
Don't think he was mocking the peasent
>Times you've disagreed with South Park?
Musicians shouldn't care about being payedfor there work and be happy that people want to listen to it in the first place, dickheads it's not Metallica that get fucked by piracy it's smaller bands who just trying to get bye
slave morality
there's no reason to get adversarial with people over trinkets and wage labor
class mobility is a meme to keep you in check
i ate an edible once and died four hours later but have never smoked weed. what's the difference?
Yes user, work harder to make your boss' boss' boss more money!
>b-b-b-but I have a "hobby"
Not good enough user you should be working!
eventually you morph into young king dave and start stinking like deli meat
>revolutions have never happened
You will be food soon
According to that other user the dichotomy is either working at a restaurant or creative or stem field, but if you're going to shift it to being employed under someone or nothing: doing "nothing" means you're living at someone else's expense.
Did South Park ever make fun of libertarian?
That's right Wagecuck. Your expense.
Aren't neets supposed to by straight edge by default?
>social democrats pretending to be cannibal anarchists because mean drumpf
holy lel every time
i hope you guys realize that you're being gaslit on some level and that people like burney and cortez are just fucking political opportunists that are saying the Correct Things to earn your vote
the united states has no revolutionary potential and this silly kerfuffle isn't going to result in anything for anybody. americans do not have the capacity for meaningful political struggle. you guys are fucking chumps, you and the faggy neo nazis. keep marching in the streets for concessions though i could sure go for a free doctor right about now
I'm pretty neutral on marijuana. To each his own, I suppose. All I know is every stoner I've met was an annoying faggot and I hope they all lay down on a highway.
It's the whole white moderate thing that MLK brings up in the letter from Birmingham jail. They're happy to live in an unjust society that doesn't have any tension than actually go through any inconvenience to live in a just society. It's why stupid white people get mad at a football player kneeling during the national anthem. They're more upset about being made aware that injustice exists than at the actual injustice itself.
Because those people have a love of learning and exploring new things, and if you are also not learning or exploring new things in your free time they won't know what to talk to you about.
>these plebs will never know the joy of having a well paid, thoughtful career position that lets them feel the joy of having other people value your contributions to a greater body of work
About 85% of the workforce won't, actually.
I thought it was less of an anti weed message and more of an anti scare tactic commercial. Anyone remember these things back in the day?
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Commercials like these were aimed at kids and teens to scare them at the idea that getting high could get you killed. Others used the threat of jail, or played up guilt by associating weed purchases with cartels and terrorism. The line of thinking being that if you frighten young people away from drugs, they'll stay away, a concept satirized by the show's use of the Future Self gimmick. I took the episode being a message of "If you want your kids to stay away from drugs, talk with them honestly" because lying can have the opposite affect.
If weed put you in a coma-like state, sure.
More often than not, people who smoke weed end up being a lot more conversational. Kind of like people who drink a little bit which causes them to relax and say what's on their mind.
But then again, back when this episode aired, people really pushed the narrative that weed was a gateway drug to crime and being a bum.
I vividly remember the "deflated people" anti-weed commercials:
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I took it more as "weed isn't really all that bad, but don't let the mystique of it trick you into thinking it's a substitute for having hobbies or a personality"
Because while that's good honest work that you should in no way be ashamed of, you should aspire to do something meaningful with your life.
If you're happy working at McDonald's, that's awesome. I love McDonald's and in glad there are people who are committed to making my mcnuggets. So go be the best fucking McDonald's employee ever, or do something meaningful in your off time.
If your life is "go to work, get high, sleep, repeat" as a means of staying at neutral-level contentment, you should probably sort your shit out.
>watching TV
Depends on what you're watching, but it can absolutely be a hobby
>using the internet
Access to infinite information and a means of socializing with people around the world
>playing video games
Strengthens motor skills, provides entertainment, can convey narratives, and in the case of multiplayer games, build a sense of community
>going to clubs
Dancing is good exercise and it's good to go socialize with people in public
>snacking
Depends on what you're eating, but it can be really fulfilling to explore culinary options and learn to cook snacks
>taking naps
Like smoking weed, is harmless (and sometimes you need the rest), but doesn't add anything to who you are as a person. That's the distinction.
If you like weed, that's fine. I like whiskey. But I don't list whiskey as a "hobby", unless I'm like going out to distilleries with my friends or making my own, you know?
Because the life you are living is completely meaningless, might as well not exist at all then. You're just wasting earths resources.
Did your daddy buy that pasta for you, user?
>it's a "trust fund baby assumes he could totally survive on his own merits" episode
I bet you're an upper-class commie who thinks the party is gonna need somebody to supervise all the manual workers.
I watch South Park not just for entertainment, but for education too.
AOC is literally the Trump of the Left
>is "an outsider" (read: is a fucking idiot)
>Lots of lofty promises
>99% image
>panders to a base of ignorant retards who don't understand politics or economics but REALLY hate people with different skin colors and annual income
>is technically right that Washington is a bloated corrupt haven of whores but assimilates and becomes yet another corrupt authoritarian whore at the first whiff of power
>black man tries to shoot police while resisting arrest, is shot
>injustice
Pick one
only retards smoke weed
Life is meaningless in large scale. The only purpose to life is to make more life similar to you. It's only when you see the forest for the trees that you get meaning out it and only the person can tell you what their meaning of life is, is that one person.
My meaning of life is to stand by the sidelines and watch others. I will not contribute nor will I leave anything behind and it will be as if I never existed, which s what I want.
What's your meaning of life?
Does any of you crackers actually watch South Park for the Morals?
I thought we all agreed that the creators are assholes and that we watch the show to laugh at their assholeness
>(read: is a fucking idiot)
She hasn't shit on the parents of a torture victim yet.
>Times you've disagreed with South Park?
The last five seasons - I don't think a single episode was funny.
Ever stop to think people deserve to be shit on?
Do onto others as they do onto you. If a man strike you on your right cheek bash him on his left. Let no wrong go unredressed.
I was going to write a huge post on why and how, until i remembered something i realized long ago.
People like you are content with your life. You're for some reason happy being like this. Other people like me, and several other anons here, are not, even if we were living the same life as you. Just like how some people like anime and others cartoons over the other, you like your unchanging life, while others need that change.
The problem is we are living in same society though. If everyone were like you, we would still be living in the stone age but we would be happy doing it. If everyone were like me, we would be living in some super sci-fi world, probably visiting other stars by now, but we would constantly be unhappy because we can never get enough.
They had absolutely no reason to target Al Gore, other than it was topical.
The whole all people should aspire to be better than low level working class only works when we can make effecient slave bots. Then we can say that without it sounding stupid.
The same can be said on Trump
The fact Matt and Trey don't support Trump is actually hilarious to me. The term "South Park Republican" was coined in their honor to describe what are today's MAGApedes.
Then one of them married a stripper with a half black son.
This episode was literally about:
1. Be upfront about problems with your children
2. You don't know how things will turn out, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
>AOC is literally the Trump of the Left
How many crimes has she been implicated in by people speaking under oath in front of Congress?
>The same can be said on Trump
Wait so how many crimes has Al Gore been implicated in by people speaking under oath in front of Congress?
Who is this Trump apologism targeted at anyway, people living under rocks?
>Times you've disagreed with South Park?
The fact that they keep making Jew jokes every episode mostly because after a while it feels less like "social comentary" and more like "boring running gag".
Samefag madfag lol
Trump can commit all the crimes he wants for all I fucking care - the Democrats would still be a thousand times more criminal
Every argument you can ever make about Trump is countered with three little words - "but the Democrats"
Speaking of trump, they find that russia connection yet?
Piracy in music industry isn't a problem anymore. Because of it we have streaming services such as Netflix and Spotify, which give better opportunities for smaller bands. It also helps them to go viral. Neil Gaiman has talked about this from author's point of view: techdirt.com
I do agree that piracy is harmful in some cases (especially websites like Ex Hentai that host pirated doujinshi, but people who use those sites most likely won't buy the stuff anyway), but as these streaming sites prove most people are willing to pay for the content as long as it's easy or even possible to obtain.
Why do people care? We are all slaves to the pleasure anyways. I personally feel like shit if i wont make progress, not because i want to, but because my body punishes me if i dont. If you are content with doing weed all day i wont judge you, in fact i am envious. Wish everyone was like that including me.
Randy isn't exactly the voice of reason in the show
>I didn't really like the message at the end of, "Weed makes you okay with being bored, and that's not okay". Anything could make you okay with being bored, like watching TV, drinking beer, napping, whatever.
That is the message. No one does, weed can make you lazy and comfortable with extremely boring activities. South Park has a bittersweet way of delivering the message.
Nope. There is absolutely nothing there.
First post user is probably right, it comes from a real place and just because some smart or inspirational people toke doesn't mean there aren't burnouts and sponges that do just what Matt and Trey said.
I mean just because there are some reasonably smart or wise people that guy high means that there aren't blazing idiots out there.
Source: Your ass.
Coffee is just white collar meth.
Jesus user, you're saying that as if there isn't a coming thing all working peoples don't contribute indirectly that advance the common infrastructure.
While I agree, purpose is a driving part of an individuals like, people still go to restaurants, cafés, hardware stores and get courier services. Those are all "grunt" positions probably meant to change faces every couple of years, they still are places people work that a lot of us depend on and we're always going to have a need for those services even if the people working there aren't necessarily in a favorable income/work situation.
Point I'm making is the sky isn't falling just because a 58 year old man with a family of 4 is working at Lowe's because he's still a taxpaying consumer so his monies still advance another business and his tax dollars still help fix roads or go to business or tech grants.
A coffee drinker can still have all their teeth.
people in white collar jobs do cocaine
Sometimes a hot cup of French Roast Amaretto is just what a man needs to get him through the day.
You can make meth in a lab with the right chemical sources.
Coffee is shit you gotta harvest and roast. One type of blend is from literal shit.
Think Ron Paul was in one of the episodes too, not not directly mocked.
The message was for parents to explain how they feel about things isn't of forcing their kids to act a certain way.
Why didn't Cartman's Revenge Business make him rich in the future though?
Democrats commit obstruction of justice and treason?
>But I don't list whiskey as a "hobby"
But you could
Sampling alcohol is basically it's own industry
Brewery tours, wine country, hell even making your own alcohol if you want
Weed can be a hobby, a stinky smelly one nonetheless, you're just mad because you've been conditioned to view it as bad and you're struggling
Worse.
Basically every episode about gays. The authors of this show are sooo gay.
This
>ask a legitimate question
>UR MAD LOL
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>Trump can commit all the crimes he wants for all I fucking care - the Democrats would still be a thousand times more criminal
So you don't actually care about crimes, you just use the idea of crimes to villify one side like it's a football team.
I disagree with Southpark all the time. They're pretty heavily libertarian, and a lot of their episodes are about how we shouldn't fix various problems. Like Manbearpig and Two Days Before the Day After Tomorrow.
Yes, over a dozen people in his campaign were already indicted based on connections with Russia. Mueller works by going from the bottom up, like he did with Enron and like he did with the mob. Right now he's up to Roger Stone on the basis of his connection with Wikileaks. But you don't need the Russia connection to impeach him as he's committed much worse crimes than previous presidents who were faced with the prospect of impeachment.
Most of those things you described are hobbies and are far more nuanced. You're deflecting the point and also ignoring that hobbies are meant to be personal which is why it's rewarding to find common ground with others.
Stamps you can at least talk about the history of them or what they depict. Some might be rare or out of print which adds to the value. It's like having a tiny art gallery.
TV you have stories, character drama, themes and some level of investment to talk about with others. People have favorite actors or characters as depicted by said actors.
Videogames do not all play the same or at the same quality, like TV some have different themes or concepts to work around for gameplay. Some even get influenced enough to reverse engineer them or make their own games inspired by the ones they loved.
Weed, cannabutter, edibles, hash and all that is just different means for the same end.
>Every argument you can ever make about Trump is countered with three little words - "but the Democrats"
No it can't.
Future self and me is great and implied moderation is fine, weed isnt as harmful as anti-drug people say it is to scare kids but people do get way to into weed/alchol/drugs and it take sover their life and thats all they are, a waste that likes "feeling good" but doesnt really do anything else.
bloody marys a shit episode one of the worst of its time easily and the message is ruined by the episode being so horrible.
ikes wee wee i'd say is the episode i disagree with the most, circumcision is in fact fucked up and would never be socially acceptable to cut the genitals of children without "tradition" behind it. legitimately weird ass african lip stretching is less fucked up than forced child genital cutting yet our modern society is ok with the child penis mutilation. south park essentially said ti was no big deal and ike barely cares when it happens, totally fabricated and biased portrayal of something horrible forced on a child. I give them a bitof a pass though as its a really early episode before they were heavy on "morals" and more just pushing the envelop with what they could say and show in a cartoon, i feel if the issue was brought up again it'd have to end like the nambla one "we are all for acceptance and all that gay stuff but you guys have sex with children, fuck you", forceful unnecessary cutting the gentials of children falls into that tier if you can remove your cultural bias.
:^)
Advocating for singlepayer payer healthcare isn't exactly what I'd call "revolutionary," considering that's what most of the western world does already and it works out just fine for them. They've been doing that in Germany since the 1800's, where it started as a Bismark policy. I tend to be pragmatic when it comes to politics, so if for a change a politician is actually in favor of healthcare reform and has a credible rationale for the policy changes it would take to implement the new system, I can overlook whatever their personal motivation is in the matter. Donny has never done that, he just talks in sweeping generalities and vague promises like a used car salesman. Politics is a dirty game at the best of times and progress only happens becase people respond to tangible incentives. For politicians, it's a a tenuous balance between insurance business interests and voting constituent interests, which in this case includes mounting frustration towards healthcare being useless. If we're lucky, the latter will become severe enough to change voting behavior and outweigh insurance interests, thus motivating some measure of policy change. This is a controversial issue as is, so there will be legitimate cause for some politicians (the shrewd and pragmatic ones anyhow) to support reform.
I get tired of people making it seem like healthcare reform is too "radical" or "idealistic" just because the standard for healthcare in America is so abysmal. It's like they think this is is how it has to be (IE, inefficient and borderline fraudulent) just because it's always been like that. Pardon me and the rest of America for being displeased with how most healthcare expenses go to finishing off the payments on an insurance executive's yacht. I don't work my ass off while studying every night just so I can eventually contract tuberculosis and lose all my savings on medical bills. It's a legitimate concern for most people, unfortunately.
Not to mention Benghazi was a waste of thousands of dollars while the Russia probe's seizure of Manafort's assets have caused it to turn what may be thought of as a profit.
replace drugs witth farts
everyone likes to fart and lots of people fart and there are eveb some times when farting in public can be funny
but you should waste all your time farting because then you will smell like fart constantly and only people who smell even worse than you will want to be around you
>You shouldn't be okay with just that
There are over 7 billion humans. To think that every human must think and act the same way is retarded.
obama 2: pussy game ridiculous
nationalized healthcare is fine
i'm not into progressive stack forced labor
That's every life when you get down to it.
government organizations can just do whatever they want without consequence. i don't know why it's so hard to accept that for some people
You sound like a pretentious cunt
this
They apologized about that.
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>mad about being told not to be a stoner
I kinda disagree with the whole "Douche and Turd" stance. In most situations, I feel like you should care who you're voting for.
God what a Gen zoomer thing to say and I'm the kind of person who shames teachers for being losers who are stuck teaching instead of working at an actual respectable well paid job.
If you want to work low wage jobs 8-12 hours with shifts then go to China or go ahead, but I know you're a delusional self-lying faggot who only says that because he's too lazy and stupid to enjoy anything but cooking and cleaning, just like every dumb woman born in the 40s and 70s.
Look if you love being automoton(which I doubt) then go to China. They are automaton city. Same for Japan. Nothing but a lot of effortful MEANINGLESS work.
But don't feel pressured into being indifferent and tolerating and enjoying life as a housemaid and a cook, a cleaner, a babysitter, primitive women/gatherer jobs.
Death is a solution considering there's 12 billion years behind you which you didn't experience before you were born.
You're not even in control of what you enjoy. Your subconscious/family traits guides you into loving to be a minion who hates giving orders around, a minion who loves his comfy simplistic brainless job as a farmer/gatherer/store clerk supplying everyone/taking care of everyone.
Look back at your parents and judge, why couldn't you be born to enjoy intelligent jobs and be good at them? Why not? Just because 2 stupid assholes decided to breed you with their traits so you can be Store Clerk Junior, the clone? I'd fuck over the entire family and then kill myself.
>following the teachings of a jew
Pretty much this.
I didn't have health insurance for three months and was deathly afraid that I would bankrupt my entire family if a drunk driver plowed into me.
Who hurt you?
Why do you hate cooking? Do you only eat nuggies.
>if you don't strive you're a piece of shit
>it's okay if you don't strive because you don't have any real agency
make up your mind
hot tip: the correct answer contradicts causal-mysticism
There is nothing wrong or illegal about filesharing. Fuck Lars Ulrich and Fuck St Anger. That album was utter shit
So i hear people talking shit about St. Anger and that band was never my thing so what was bad about it?
To understand what he’s really saying, replace “Democrats” with “Bible”
“...but the Bible-“
Same principle.
Metallica tries to be new metal and fails at both
Shitty tuning, a very questionable drum timbre, awful production, songs that don't really go nowhere, it's a real fucking mess of an album.
Also Newsted left leaving Metallica without a bassist, plus Lars was still salty over Napster
The whole point of this episode was to give the message to the kids watching at home. Matt and Trey didn't give a shit about the 20sumfins getting high and turning this crap on, but when you're a ten year old presented with the idea that smoking this loudness will keep you entertained by itself, it's fucking dangerous ideology. Kids should never have to resort to smoking dope to find something to do, because they've got nothing but unchecked time to pick up hobbies, talents, and skills before they have to wage slave the rest of their lives
If you're a 14 year old and your ambition is to get high, that's all your going to do until someone drags you to NA to waste time about all the time you wasted when you were getting high
hating on the worker class doesnt mean you're intelligent, you're just a cynical asshole. get a job and stop grumbling at the masses from your ivory tower you retarded millenial.
I'm sure there's some newer episode I'd probably hate, but most of my experience comes from the first decade of South Park.
I did like that one message that maybe people shouldn't be taking the bible so literately. It's a guide, not an answer to everything. It's why I wish people would delve into other religions and see what they can find
>Stealth /pol/ South Park thread
>It's about "we live in a society" and not "DRRUUUMMPPFFF"
Well... I wasn't expecting that.
I get high and make the best fucking pizza in a 100 mile radius. I make a living doing this.
This is hilarious
edgy
>Times you've disagreed with South Park?
I don't think they went far enough with Stan's emotional troubles
>didn't even read the post
Whiskey can be a hobby if you're going to distilleries with friends, doing tastings, making your own, etc.
If you come home from work, smoke a bunch of weed, and go to bed, that's not a hobby. That's the point the episode was making, because it released at a time before state level legalization, so "weed tourism" wasn't really a thing.
>Yea Forumsmblr this riled when sometime compares a socialist bartender to orange man
Kek
>I don't smoke weed so we'd be terraforming mars by now if I was in charge
You're not wrong that people should have drive but fuck me it's not a bad thing to find contentment in the little things.
Any time an episode has been about the whole "preserve the status quo / don't rock the boat" bullshit. Pick a side, you spineless fucks.
You're not wrong but you are retarded
This isn't a hypothetical question?
>t. Doesn't know how to cook or clean, lives off daddy's allowance
>ook ook centrist methodology boring, me want conflict so me team win!
I mean, I agree to a point (it does make u ok with being lazy) but you still do stuff on it like read comics or magazines or vidya which are hobbies
>dude smoking cigarettes is for hard working people who just need a break every now and then
>weed is bad tho
The point was that weed in and of itself isn't that harmful, but it's a time sink that retards self improvement. From their alcohol and cigarette episodes, they also say that moderation is needed, and to not overreact to drugs either. All of these are good lessons.
I fucking hate nu-Yea Forums, everything is a false dichotomy either-or now.
that's not what disagreeing is mate, it actually is more of a running gag than any form of social commentary.
Nah, as a pothead I agree with that episode. Weed comes on top of the rest of shit that makes you okay with being bored, you're more likely to "waste time" in front of the TV or playing vydia.
That being said some people handle it better than others, and yeah moderation helps but not everyone has the disciprin.
Weed is like video games, it tends to make a person quite lazy and often serves as an excuse to not pick up and do something meaningful. As a hobby it is one of those lazy hobbies like watching sports on tv.
The argument is theres more constructive hobbies. If you can do them while youre smoking weed, all the better of course. I know I can't draw or animate for shit when I smoke up.
Look, I'm not gonna tell you guys that life is better lived one way or the other. It isn't. But, do me a favor. Don't act like you don't matter. Don't act like what you do doesn't matter. Whether you sweep floors, flip burgers, or run a Fortune 500-- you matter.
So by all means, have fun when the shift is done.
If your content with yourselves then you have no responsibility to explain yourself or your way of being to others. Just don't forget that everything around us only works because someone else acted like it mattered. Something somewhere works because you are there to make it work. Something somewhere works because you act like it matters.
It matters. It does have meaning.
Eh, that's how most people live, stoner or not. Not saying it's good but it is how it is.
That's kinda dumb though, you don't generally smoke weed and do nothing else, practicing your hobbies while high is very common, the issue is it might make you overindulge in hobbies even at times where you should be doing something else. Even at times when your hobby would otherwise bore you.
Hating Teachers is the most pathetic anti-intellectual, privileged thing I can imagine.
Even as centrist, they've been against the status quo more often than not.
They're just really pragmatic about it.
>implying a mind altering substance isn't better at putting up with boredom than watching TV
i feel that public education institutions are deeply flawed and have failed generations of people across the world
polster reasoning around this sort of thing is retarded, obviously, but i cannot in good faith defend the american education system or the people they end up hiring
>In earlier seasons: Alcoholism isn't a disease/addiction, just quit on your own dude lmao
>Later seasons: Wait actually addiction is a disease its biological you need to keep that shit in check
Which is it M&T?
I've never smoked pot and I grew up to find I wasn't good at anything. You just can't win, bud.
What the fuck makes you think that?
And there were dinosaurs on Noah's arc, my mommy told me that too.
That's because you don't know what it's like if these things didn't exist. Quit trying to come to the conclusion that basic government services have failed when almost universally things like public school have been a net good. Could they be better? Sure. Does that mean teachers are awful people or some garbage? No. It means you had one bad teacher. But kids having to learn math is still a good thing.
Its almost like as science advances, views change. But even then its not absolute, we aren't at the mercy of our biology, but some people are naturally predisposed to addictive behaviors but with that in mind they can avoid said behaviors by not doing them in the first place.
>Actually doing things that you can talk about and getting stoned so you can watch a couple hours evaporate while you do nothing of note to anyone but yourself are of equal value
Why are stoners so defensive
Why do you care how others spare their free time.
As long as they bring you the food you ordered, what do you care what they do when their shift ends.
>doing things you can talk about
Why do you think that matters? Do you select your activities depending on whether they're conversation pieces?
Not defending weed as a hobby (whatever that would be, most people smoke weed and do something, not just smoke weed and sit there giggling to themselves), but this is a really peculiar criteria.
I miss when stoners were chill. Now stoners get all antsy and bitch about everything.
i didn't come to that conclusion or say that
it's not a blanket failure but there is 100% room for improvement and we need to take it more a lot seriously
public institutions have shitty hiring practices and that's most apparent in law enforcement and education. teachers are not awful people. shitty teachers are being hired and good teachers, well meaning ones, get stuck in bad situations and burn out. that's just the way it is. we need to do better by these people and better by the children they're educating
I think you just don't notice stoners who don't bitch, because people who don't bitch aren't noticeable.
OP either missed the point or choose to be retarded to make a thread.
Either way, I haven't really.
Menial workers built the pyramids. When we look at these great works, our first question is most often "who did this?" Human achievement is more than just individuals making more. Go out and work and you'll have my respect. People doing something most would rather not do have my respect.
>Menial workers built the pyramids.
But the pyramids were useless bullshit tomes meant for kings and royals.
I get what you're saying but it's not the best metaphor.
>HEH HEH, OP SO RETARDED
>Proceeds not to explain what the intended message was
This leads to burnout. It's actually considered healthy to set aside time to do nothing and that includes resting your brain. It doesn't become a problem until it dominates your life. Just sitting and looking at things for an hour can be revitalizing.
Global Warming isn't real.
Second hand smoke isn't real.
Christopher Reeve is an asshole for supporting stem cell research because he doesn't want to be disabled anymore.
>Say something wrong
>Someone says you're wrong
>WOW YOU'RE SO RILED UP LMAO??
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Anecdote time. Non green text because I suck at it.
I'm 33 years old, I've had the same group of 5 friends for 15 years. Early on, smoking weed was something we bonded over, going as far as making it a joke cult, complete with rituals. We very much identified as stoners. Of course we didn't *just* smoke weed together, we played music, sports and vydia, we threw parties, all the regular teenager stuff. We had a pretty big social group, which eventually dwindled. At one point one of the core 5 decided to quit weed and was worried he'd get pushed aside, which didn't happen, we kept doing the same shit together except one guy didn't smoke. Our core identity wasn't weed smokers, it's not what actually brought us together, we were friends because we entertained each other.
Tribulations of life, yadda yadda, skip to nowadays. Every one of us still smokes weed to varying degrees. One is an investment banker for the biggest bank in the world and about to get married, 2 others own a tech company each and have a kid each, one is a guitar teacher who's pretty comfortable leaving a relatively mediocre life as long as he has free time to play music and vydia. And then there's me, the procrastination specialist. I'm a security guard after dropping out of college, I've never had a girlfriend as an adult, my financial situation is fucked, my health is fucked and I might be on my way to end up homeless. I spend way too much time on my hobbies. I'm the typical underachiever that this website is filled with. But then even as a kid my models were Garfield and Gaston Lagaffe, I've always liked leisure and trying to get around having to do shit that bored me.
Moral of the story: weed doesn't fail people, people fail themselves.
They didn't imply that second hand smoking isn't real.
I thought the Christopher Reeve joke was more of a joke than a message.
Bumpo
>Their stance on Global Warming
Kinda says something that characters in-show defend the theory of evolution despite holes in it but Matt and Trey point and laugh at something that has even MORE concrete scientific proof being thrown desperately at the rest of the world.
>Transgenderism
Having Garrison be the sole example of a gender changed person, who swaps orientations like cards in a Yu Gi Oh deck on whims, and his eventual "reversion" into a straight guy was horrifically condescending, again, especially since the show came to the defense of suicidal kids at Conversion Camps and flat out made a statement that it was wrong and fucked up to tell children they're aberrations for being homosexual and how Jesus can heal them.
>The 'Murderers' in Butters' Very Own episode
Trey and Matt have admitted they fucked up as Gary Condit and the Ramseys were eventually exonerated of the murderers they were accused of.
>Trey and Matt have admitted they fucked up as Gary Condit and the Ramseys were eventually exonerated of the murderers they were accused of.
They still totally did it though
There's a big difference between being gay and having a sex change operation.
Lay off the weed kid.
Happy and emotionally stable people don't smoke weed everyday.
Mr. Garrison has done both.
Is not funny.
They rolled back on those first two in that Al Gore 2-parter last season, and Fractured But Whole.
Well yeah,but wasn't there an episode where there was something to the tune of "Garrison is just a freak, he's not representative"?
Pretty much.
Lots of the messages of South Park are fucking stupid. Like the one where the lesson was "Voting is gay and it doesn't matter". Or the one whose message was "Al Gore is a moron and global warming isn't real". What the fuck?
The alcoholism episode
I'm sure it just gave excuses to drunks around the world to destroy their livers and ruin their families because stan's dad gave an "inspiring" speech at the end
>Like the one where the lesson was "Voting is gay and it doesn't matter"
That wasn't the message. It was that forcing someone to vote for candidates they don't care about is a farce. And the characters who say that voting's gay and doesn't matter were fucking PETA.
>the one whose message was "Al Gore is a moron and global warming isn't real".
They admitted they fucked up in those Al Gore episodes last season.
>you matter.
Shut up faggot.
>Stan's emotional troubles
He drinks, what emotional problems.
>dude smoking cigarettes is for hard working people who just need a break every now and then
>>weed is bad tho
No one make this argument and no one thinks smoking cigarettes is healthy, cool or good for you.
Are you 15? Cannabis and Tobacco is bad for your health.
The cigarette thing is pretty much word for word from the episode though.
You'll notice how it doesn't say anything about it being cool or healthy.
>The cigarette thing is pretty much word for word from the episode though.
I know and no one says this.
Out off all the cigarette smokers I've met including me, we dont care.
If anything cigarette smokers get more shit.
As an alcoholic, no, I understood it quite the opposite way. The message as I understood it was that your drinking is your responsibility and you don't get to distance yourself from the solution because it's a medical condition you can't do anything about.
I'm not sure how you understand an "inspiring speech" about moderation as an excuse go get drunk anyway.
Alcoholism is addiction and disease in Western medical field (like many other things because we love to medicalize everything), but still the only one who forces you to grab that bottle is yourself and you are the only one who can stop it. This is literally what we tell first to alcoholism first at rehab. You can get rehabilition but then you need to commit to it if you want it to work.
>If anything cigarette smokers get more shit.
Which was also in a South Park episode when they go to the Museum of Tolerance and then moments after the tour, all the adults start screaming at a smoker standing outside the door calling him disgusting and to get the hell out of here.
I want hayley williams to sit on my knee and play with her pussy.
I think they’re a little hypocritical with their message that using the term retard is not a big deal but then treat the n-word as a sacred thing no one should say. They’re not as hypocritical as Seth McFarlane/Family Guy though and at least have characters like Timmy and Jimmy playing prominent roles which is more than you can say for a lot of shows.
They don't really treat it that way though, I mean they both say it repeatedly in the episode as a variety of characters.
The only thing is if you say it people get cranky, and they'll get cranky whether you agree that they should get cranky or not.
>including me
Oh this is you being so defensive you forgot this is a thread about south park. As in how south park depicted smoking cigarettes vs weed and not how you wanted to look cool in high school and got hooked for life
Don't forget 'faggot', faggot!
'salright, language evolves and attitudes change, 'cept for when the darkies are involved
They only really use the n-word in the nagger episode though. Then compare that to the times they use the term retard and their whole jimmy centric episode where they have him using it. I mean can you imagine an episode where they had token in jimmys spot and the show was arguing the same point but for the term nigger? Again they’re not the only people who do it but it is a double standard.
It's almost like how people talk in real life or something. One word is obviously more taboo than the other. You just don't get it, Stan.
Also do you really think all double standards are unjustified? Do you treat literally everyone the same way regardless of any form of context?
Buddha Box seemed kinda disrespectful.
Yes, because the usage of the n word by white people clearly has evolved beyond any racial meaning.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic but it has. The era of edgy humor came and went and proved that just because someone says "nigger" doesn't mean they're racist, it just means they're trying to be offensive, and some of those times it's funny.
They've been backpedaling on everything. And Global Warming as it was promoted is a farce. They've only dumbed it down to the an encompassing "climate change" to dodge scrutiny. Al Gore is still making tons of money from his scam.
BEEFCAKE
>Times you've disagreed with South Park?
1. When Matt Stone and Trey Parker threw a hissy fit and killed Chef in a humiliating fashion. Isaac Hayes was being childish, but they should've been the bigger men and let his character leave the show gracefully.
2. When they thought Kenny's shtick was boring, and tried to replace him for a few episodes.
3. Whenever they decide to derail an interesting episode (like The Cissy) by giving Randy way too much spotlight.
4. The time they called the Benet-Ramseys murderers.
5. When they broke up Wendy with Stan.
6. Whenever they contradict their own libertarian values, such as whining about Jeff Bezos for being too successful.
8. The idea in the last of the Meheecans that we need more immigrants because NO ONE ELSE would do menial jobs.
9. Throwing a hissy fit over Trump for two seasons.
10. When they used live-action in the ziplining episode. Everything else in that episode was funny.
11. When they stopped making Christmas episodes.
12. When they proved the point about Islam correct by censoring Mohammad.
>If you constantly attack, belittle and ostracize people for making a poor decision (or simply one you personally don't agree with), don't act surprised when they eventually 'double down' and become even more extreme in their views and behaviour
Then, a few episodes later:
>"What about the Whites? Nobody else in South Park but Tru-I mean Garrison has ever done anything good for the White Family! Fuck Hillary and fuck your liberal Agenda! Garritrump all the way!"
Those aren't shameful jobs....when you're a teenager.
If you're 30+ years old and still a janitor/fry cook/retail cashier/[choose low-skill entry level job here] and are OK WITH THAT, that it becomes a problem. Part of happiness in life is finding something fulfilling. Those low skill jobs do not entail fulfillment, nor does being a stoner.
I'm all for free agency. You do you. But don't complain about it or rage against society years later when you're still stuck at the same dead-end job that you can only get through because of the drugs that you take at the end of the shift.
People who are genuinely content with having a low wage, low skill job their entire life are pretty goddamn rare.
Demshits have been saying this for 3 fucking years now and there has not been a single shred of solid evidence in that entire time.
The Cohen Congressional hearing was absolutely laughable.
Trump should absolutely be impeached if there is tangible evidence. To that end, there has been nothing but rumors and baseless accusations repeated by news "sources" in slightly different ways ad nauseum since he was elected.
Live under a rock if you want too, but Matt and Trey have really nailed the thoughts and views of hardcore Trump supporters. If it bothers you that much, you might be one of those people.
>When they proved the point about Islam correct by censoring Mohammad.
comedy central censored the episode, not them
>1. When Matt Stone and Trey Parker threw a hissy fit and killed Chef in a humiliating fashion. Isaac Hayes was being childish, but they should've been the bigger men and let his character leave the show gracefully.
It's even worse. Hayes wasn't being childish, he was incapacitated by a stroke and Scientology's agents intervened to quit on his behalf, and M&T proceeded to shit on Hayes in revenge while Hayes was slowly dying.
>12. When they proved the point about Islam correct by censoring Mohammad.
That was forced on them. They even wrote a "I learned something today" speech lampooning by saying how Islam won in censoring them by threatening violence, only for CC to censor the entire speech without their knowledge.
They're still incredible feats made by impressive menial workers. Sure the villains that "forced" them are in our history books and the middle men in obscurity, but the point is that purposeful menial labor has it's value. America may not be the cleanest place, but what separates us from third world shitholes are people working sanitation. Who keeps them fed? Burger flippers. But yeah study hard and maybe you'll be a diversity officer in the video game industry.
>9. Throwing a hissy fit over Trump for two seasons.
It wasn't that bad.
I don't think you understand the world in 2019, the majority of new jobs are those low skill jobs. Those high skill jobs are dying and are not being replaced. You're living in a service economy, start serving.
>visit old high school friend
>house is in shambles, he can hardly afford food and utilities
>asks me to drive him to the store so he can save like 50 cents on gas money
>asks me to stop by his dealer's place on the way back, buys $80 worth of weed
>accidentally drops a little bit on the ground when we get to his house
>scrapes it up and puts it in with the rest
dude weed lmao
>Demshits have been saying this for 3 fucking years now
You think that's long for a federal investigation of an international conspiracy? Watergate was a fraction of this and it took even longer than that to be seen to its conclusion. You're not working off reality, you're just saying things that sound "correct" in a vacuum of your vacuous knowledge.
When said asshole was the only one who got said torture victim back. It's his own damn fault for going to NK.
It's really pathetic americans follow these lowbrow cartoons like a religion. If you take your life views and references from shows like south park, family guy and simpsons you might be mentally retarded
He's not the only one who got torture victims back, are you honestly that retarded? Oh look you're being an apologist for an illiterate reality TV star of course you're fucking retarded.
Everyone of them should be in jail for life.
It's really funny that there's an investigation that proves that crimes have been committed by Republicans to the point where several of them are literally in jail already but all you care about is pretending as hard as possible about what you imagined happened. It's not productive, it doesn't convince anyone who isn't already convinced, it just makes you look as stupid as you are.
Exactly.
Keep proving his point right buddy.
I mean I try to treat people with the same level of respect. I try to treat slurs with the same level of non usage. If something is fucked up to say and another thing is equivalently fucked up to say then I don’t say either thing. Is it really that foreign of a concept to treat marginalized groups with an equal amount of respect and empathy? Also why are you getting pissy about me pointing out the double standard? Is the thread not about times we disagreed with how the show handled shit?
>MUH WEED HOW DARE ANYONE SAY IT'S BAD
Sometimes I forget that normie shitlibs still believe in magic Russian hackers.
>10. When they used live-action in the ziplining episode
That was literally the best part of that episode and what saved it
There's nothing magic about it. Trump asked Russia to find Hillary's emails. They found them through hacking and arranged to release what they found at an important time before election day.
Some people take the hacker claims too far.
They literally just cleared Trump in court of that investigation witch hunt last month, which is why the libs are trying to cling to the disbarred liar Cohen's testimony now, while retards like you swallow whatever conjecture they can drum up.
>Some people are content with an 8-hour shift at some restaurant, then going home and smoking to relax before they have to go to sleep the next day and do it all again
nowadays fuckers would just jerk off to a deflated girl
>6. Whenever they contradict their own libertarian values, such as whining about Jeff Bezos for being too successful.
I saw them as supporting more private businesses (Tegridy Farms) instead of larger globalist ones like Amazon that receive funding from the government. Amazon isn't free market capitalism for shit and Jeff Bezos is in the same line as George Soros.
Russia doesn't fucking take orders from Trump. He didn't ask the Russian government to hack her emails. They were already doing that and they were simply coordinating the release timing of the emails with campaign dialog.
The point of that episode was that parents talking to their kids about drugs is a lot more effective than letting drug scare programs tell kids they're going to be horrible people for even touching drugs.
It really wasn't about weed.
Wasn’t the message of the episode that parents shouldn’t lie to kids?
You're the kind of person who forces women into jobs they don't want to be in.
Daddy issues? That poster's point was that you should strive for self improvement, and then a bunch of people got defensive because they had to confront that they were not, and it made them unhappy.
>hacking is now magical
>Mueller is a "shitlib" instead of a lifelong Republican war vet
???
You're supporting a New York elitist who thinks you're stupid for believing anything he says.
No they didn't retard rofl. Are you talking about Trump's tweet saying "Totally clears the president thank you"? Are you memeing me right now?
Hi yeah, lemme squash your shit senpai, i'm a pipeline welder, currently making 60 dollars an hour. I literally went to school for 1 year, learned everything I could then went to work in a shop earning 12 dollars an hour starting and bought my own rig.
You don't have to go into a STEM field to make big money, in fact people like construction, plumbers, carpenters, ect. on average, factoring in benefits and their pay, make WAY MORE then an engineering job of some type. Without benefits, tradesmen usually make 40 dollars an hour average, with uncapped pay and if you decide to join, union benefits. Which means theres always work for you, and your family never goes hungry if your suddenly out of a job.
You don't have to go into an engineering field to make big money, and the people who are content with Mcdonalds are either impoverished people who life dealt a shitty hand, or people who are lazy and are content with working at a Walmart being treated like shit because learning a new skill is too much work.
Back in highschool, I ended up in some sort of 'Political' class during the elections with Obama and Romney. Let me tell you, The teachers went out of their ways to put Obama in a good lite while Romney was completely ignored or joked about.
I can only imagine what teachers did during the elections with Trump and Hillary.
It problem involved these 'Russians E-mails' the most.
>>I didn't really like the message at the end of, "Weed makes you okay with being bored, and that's not okay". Anything could make you okay with being bored, like watching TV, drinking beer, napping, whatever.
False equivalence.
Last of the meheecans was just a massive left wankfest. The Idea that America would’t have people ready to fill those fast food jobs is horse shit. Worse, the thought that Mexicans would just up and leave the country to go back to Mexico. First of all, they must have gone through hell just to get here and second, the obviously left for a reason. Even if they all got back, unless they handed to Herber and put down the cartel for good and felt with corruption in their government, things would be the exact same as when the left and they not be having a fiesta.
tl;dr, Mexicans arent going to leave the country just cause some white kid told them so.
Romney was legit a joke though. What point were you trying to make with your post?
>It problem involved these 'Russians E-mails' the most.
>This mangled English
I wonder who's behind this post...
Ah fuck I can't believe a parody episode of South Park has an unrealistic premise. Ah, shit. I can't believe it.
>Teachers telling future voters who to vote for is OK
You said it, not me.
Frankly Romney was worse than Trump. Skeevier as a businessman, and with none of the common appeal and scope.
The most unrealistic part of the episode?
Mexicans eating American-style tacos.
>telling
Remember, you can't ignore an order citizen.
The only real problem I have with South park right now Is the increased amount of spotlight Randy gets.The best thing about South Park Is that 10 years old who have the mentality of poking dog shit with a stick or whatever shenanigans a kid does nowaday Is brought up in a stupid dilemma in which their small world is conflicted,so they do something drastic and affecting on a wide scale to fix things(ie.: Whale spoke to me,so I'll send it to the moon,Bike race has tough contenders?plead to the desires of Jeff Bezos so he gives us pimoed out tricycles,etc)
It works well,because as much as the kids are trying to do mostly right, with the exception of Kenny and Cartman who legitimately believe they are entitled of doing wrong,they haven't fully developed a proper moral compass. Randy,on the other hand,feels nothing more than the studio's /ourguy/ where they validate in a very weird manner their disproportionate weed consumption,sex urges and failed resolutions. Sure,seeing him here and there Is alright,but as of latter episodes,he has WAAAAAY too much screentime.
No, it's been known on the hill that the probe is for all intents and purposes wrapped up and AG Barr's brief to the special council is the non-ending of the Mueller Probe, which is why the left changed tactics to demand the release of the full report, and backing liar Cohen. It's a tactic that the left has been using for years to go for fucking anything, and the same witch hunt like Scott Walker's multi-year John Doe investigation to drum up anything, just anything about him. Surprise, surprise, they turned up nothing and it took a federal judge to call the probe unconstitutional and make it stop.
These are the same people who tried to slander the last three conservative appointed justices, with the latest being he's an alcoholic serial gang rapist, and even moving the goalposts after the FBI said there was no evidence whatsoever and they were holding things up until the testimony, then the FBI report, etc etc next goalpost.
It's an authority figure that you're governmentally mandated to be educated by during your formative years. This coming from the same side that says the president should be impeached because something something facebook news.
>appeal to emotion and then non-sequitur so hard that he can't even finish it without actual babbling
Yeah, I can see how someone like you would be touchy about the issue of teachers failing their students.
>state two logical fallacies that don't even apply
How is the first sentence an appeal to emotion? And they are direct comparisons of "swaying voter opinion." Indoctrinating children who are forced by law to sit there compared to news blurbs on social media. I'm starting to think that you are too stupid to even comprehend English.
Someone has to work all the janitorial and customer service jobs in the world, and those jobs way outnumber the ones that contribute something intellectual or emotionally fulfilling.
>"Sometimes it's more important to be morally right instead of factually wrong"
She really is Trump 2.0
True
Based and CIApilled
Popular to contrary belief, there are actually people that enjoy those professions.
That'd be a more compelling comparison if she was in the running for president, but she's not, so why are you so obsessed with her...?
>Write one post on a board that references a stupid sentence someone said
>"Why are you obsessed?"
Following that logic, why are you obsessed with me?
>tradesmen usually make $40/hr
I always hear this but everytime I look up the job stats the salary ranges from like 20-30. Even the stats for Pipewelder only reach $40/hr on the highest percentiles
>Implying I don't hate Trump more than you do for his failure to be the right-wing candidate he campaigned as
If this is the first post I made to you, then how am I obsessed with you? Unless it's not, in which case I was right about you being obsessed with AOC since that would mean we were conversing over multiple points and not just this one. Either way, your post is nonsense.
When they put Terrence and Phillip into the show. The only time they ever made me laugh was their buddy, friend, guy joke. They drag down everything that they appear in, and should've been killed off years ago. At least Parker and Stone show some self-awareness by aging them up.
Weed can be a creative and intellectual outlet if you are, say, growing your own. Growing weed got me into gardening in general actually.
Was it really not enough for you that they spent 99% of the episode shitting on overzealous, hysterical anti-drug faggots? Even just 1 or 2 lines of anything vaguely negative to say about drugs at all, even in the context of a parent trying to talk to his 8 year old son about drug use, has you on the defensive about muh weed just the same as if they were like "marijuana leads to terrorism" or something
>This leads to burnout
Are you legitimately so fragile that the thought of doing anything outside your comfort zone just carries the risk of you burning out? Moreover, do you really think that's a realonable message to send to an 8 year-old?
Weed is a mixed bag. I've seen it exacerbate a problem in a person. I've also seen it help a problem in a person.