Be honest Yea Forums, are you excited to watch her show?

>ryuko
more like nobita

>The Disney cartoons are always really good.
ohoho...wow

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Absolutely. I'm interested to see how Dana does with her first real show, I'm interested to see what direction they take the show, and I'm interested to see what sort of influence Cotugno is going to have as director, especially since we're gonna see what she did with SVTFOE in her final season there.

I'm looking forward to it.

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I sure am anticipating the fandom going to shit because you dumbarses let people like MishaLover infest every thread.

Is a show clearly trying to get Star vs hypetrain where every character is an anime character design rip off, do you really think there is any chance this fandom will not be fucking awful?

There is a clear distinction between fandoms like the Star VS. and The Loud House's horrible community. You can prevent it from reaching The Loud House levels of awful by shunning individuals like MishaLover. It worked for Hilda as hardly anyone wants anything to do with him in those threads.

how has this thread gone on this long without a single mention of what the fuck the show is, or any hints i could use to look it up myself

No, no.
That witch.
I can't fucking remember the Yea Forums reference... and Dana is a fucking weeb bitch who suck Alex's cock in 4 years

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It's literally an Amphibia ripoff and only approve because of who she dates

Because we assume most people on Yea Forums aren't complete newfags or have been living under a rock for the past half a year.
I know, we set out standards too high and it inevitably leads to disappointment.

hey double-moron
you were a newfag too the first time you heard about this
what the fuck happened to everyone's memory? why cant they remember the way things were for them when judging others? why do they expect everyone to instantly conform to moral values they just invented this year?

>why cant they remember the way things were for them when judging others? why do they expect everyone to instantly conform to moral values
As the ancient oldfags used to say: Fucking lurk more faggot

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no and I don't understand why should I.

Hopefully this is just the western cardcaptor sakura, granted not as kino. It's rather strange we have yet to get a PV or really anything art wise. Whats up with that the show is coming out this year right?

I don't know, man. I really don't know if I can trust Dana "Fuck Webby's Doll" Terrace who hires every extreme vocal feminist over at Disney to work on her show featuring a mostly girl cast. Especially with Sabrina "Everyone is Bi" Cotugno.

I wouldn't be surprised if a story about a girl trying to be a witch takes a backseat in favor of the staff trying to emphasize that she's a strong dark-skinned bisexual girl.

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Nah

yes.

>Show is called The Owl House.
Where are the owls?

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it's basically an isekai

Luz from Owl House.

It's hard to pick shit up by lurking when no one says the name. It's Owl House by the way. \

In your dressing you, and in the gravy.
Even in the navy.

Out of all the upcoming network shows it has the most potential, which also means it has the most potential to be disappointing so

Cubone?

PUNCH THE SCREENS FOR GOD'S SAKE

So, is Emmy Cicierega boarding on The Owl House now?

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my nigga

youtube.com/watch?v=yn6x33rJYCk

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I don't know but denim shorts with leggings/tights underneath makes me diamonds

How can it be a rip off of a show that got announced at the same time

The magic staff is literally an owl

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>Dana is a fucking weeb bitch who suck Alex's cock
Can you really blame her? Besides the (alleged) STDs, he’s not a bad looking guy and likely has a lot of sexual experience.

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What do you think they’re gonna do to the show? If you had to make a guess, what would it be?

Put some romance arc right in the spotlight, throw in some boring racism allegory like how all the witches are extremely racist against humans or mortals or whatever (Seems like women writers really fucking favor racism metaphors), refuse to have a single girl character who enjoys feminine things like make-up/ the color pink/ dolls.

And for a final bit, though I'm not actually holding my breath for it to come true, is that the witch lady constantly making aware that she is a tough lady. Like how that one girl character in Big Hero 6 would say things like "Woman up" instead of "Man up". Something like that. Stuff where she'll step in front of a group of wizards saying something like, "Leave it to a woman to get the job done right".

Basically, a lot of shit that happened in Star Vs' season 3 mixed with some hammy 90's sitcom power girl writing. I'm thinking of the most generic way they could possibly take this show.

Why should I give a fuck about this when Disney just recently struck gold with television perfection?

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>lesbian creator

no

>Lesbian
She's bi.

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so indecisive and greedy gotcha.

Nope, because Dana sucks, Alex sucks, her crew is full of terrible people who all talk shit about each other, and she only has her show because she fucks Alex and because she stepped on other women who worked harder to be where they are. This is not an unpopular opinion among other disney employees.

AMA

Who's the voice cast for the show so far.

Bisexual, user

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literally the same thing

Unless you can prove you work for Disney TVA, you can’t expect anyone here to fully believe you.

I don't know, I don't talk to anyone directly on the crew anymore. I know she was looking for a woman with a lower voice, probably for Eda I guess.

>When you're so devoid of personality you have to fall back on what turns you on to define you

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Why do you say that?

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I'd rather not be believed than lose my job lol

I posted part of my ID in one of the threads, but afaik everyone across the company has the same ID, so i don't really have anything

>"I'm always the one like, 'Oh, here's the queer feminist, gotta say her social issues again."
Maybe the storybros were right, Sabrina, and stories about kids visiting their uncle or a girl trying to save her kingdom aren't the right platforms for you to shove your queer morals down everyone's throat.

There's a time and place for everything, but unfortunately, you seem to think that's "all the time" and feel attacked when people try to tell you this kid's comedy is not the place for you to start bitching about lesbian oppression.

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Dana makes fun of Sabrina behind her back

Well, then tell us things about DTVA (or people who work there) that only an insider would know. Who have you worked with?

Tell me anything and I'll believe you 100%.

Tito, while I'll grant "Lurk more" is generally the best advice a person can give on Yea Forums, I don't think you can apply it to a situation where nobody is talking about a given subject.

What was the psi of the punch Dana used to destroy her Cintiq?

In previous threads, people have absolutely said the name "Owl House". If you paid just a little bit of attention to animation news, even if only exclusively from CartoonBrew, you would know some of the upcoming shows like Twelve Forever, Infinity Train, Amphibia, etc. Lurk moar is supposed to be more than just this thread or just for today.

I'd prefer to remain vague, just because I don't want to be at the center of any of their vapid drama. Also, there are some good people that have been fucked over by Alex or Dana to varying degrees. I don't really want them to get found out for telling how they feel about her. It just seems like the two of them have a lot of pull at DTVA.

But as a vague example, I do know some people who worked for her while the show was in development (doing freelance boards and designs) and she used their work in the final product but did not hire them for the show, which is technically okay, but she also unfollowed a bunch of people she was friends with on all social media with absolutely no explanation.

One of those people, who worked on development and also got ghosted by Dana, worked her ass off to get a show going at another network and got passed on after Dana's show was announced because they were too similar. That project was in development for like four years and Dana's got through in one.

I'm glad that story stuck :^)

>she used their work in the final product but did not hire them for the show

Was it this person?

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Why did Disney let Alex go?

Nope. I assume that was a test. Everyone I talked about actually worked and did freelance.

But since you mentioned tests, OH sent out so many tests that the Animation Guild was considering regulating the amount of tests one show could send. That's a ton of free work and wasted time. I heard it was something like 70 tests for three or four board positions?

>Big Shitty Sneeds
>perfection
You're not serious, are you?

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Based Dana sending out almost 100 tests only to hire her friends.

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Probably because he's disgusting

He kept one of his CalArts girlfriends blocked from getting a job at any big studio because she caught him cheating and freaked out, so he went on and told a bunch of crazy shit to everyone he knew

He cheated on Manzi with Dana while she was a storyboard revisionist on GF (she got promoted to board artist within half a season!)

and was okay with Manzi eating cotton balls to stay thin. He also met her while he was cosplaying Wendy, I don't know if that's common knowledge

Also, he doesn't really have a good relationship with his twin like he pretends to

And I mean "disgusting" as in physically disgusting. He smells like tonsil stones.

I really can’t find any fault in Dana reading all this. So she unfollowed some ppl and decided not to hire others. What happened to this girl’s dev project at some other studio has nothing to do with Dana

From the outside looking in, Hirsch really does come across as an arrogant scumbag. I heard one of his "crazy exs" was the inspiration for Giffany which seemed like somewhat of a childish "take that!" effigy.

Technically true, but she claims to be a feminist and shits on other women all the time

Someone told me she said she hoped the other project failed so she could hire the would-be showrunner, then didn't hire her anyway

She also talks an unbalanced amount of shit about female showrunners, including one she'd never met before.

I haven't watched GF lol but I wouldn't doubt it.

>OP makes a thread for one of the most promising and highly anticipated original series premiering this year
>it immediately devolves into an EZ PZ-tier roasting of Alex Hirsch
Sometimes I fucking hate you, Yea Forums

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Be honest, was one ofthem Nefcy?

You'll like OH then, because Alex wrote all of the pilot and most every episode

Dana has lots of women in her writer's room but Alex is basically rewriting all their work

You didn't hear it from me, but Rachael Lillis is voicing Eda.

Byeeeee.

Yes :^)

Care to refute any of these Dana claims, user?

I bet she is the one that started the "horseface" insult too. Thanks. This is good ammo for the Star s4 threads.

> I don't know if that's common knowledge
Manzi talked about it when she used to tripfag here

Where does Emmy Cicierega fit into all this

What's the deal with Luz's mouth anyway? She looks retarded

I don't know her personally, haven't heard anything weird about her other than vague statements that she's an asshole. I don't think she lives in SoCal?

I'm just happy to see GF alumni working on their own major projects. The future's lookin' bright, y'all

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>I heard one of his "crazy exs" was the inspiration for Giffany
Giffany is a Yuno Gasai rip off
just another western weeb ripping off the japs and calling it a "reference" or "homage"

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No /ll/ no watch. Gib me that representation Disney.

It's like Rabbit House (Cubone is actually an owl).

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I feel like it's redundant to ask, but how many people ITT actually want to watch the show for reasons other than wanting to have sex with the characters? I can't even just say "female" characters because you guys would pork anything if it had enough holes in it.

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For women, bi might as well mean straight. You only identify as bi when you date a guy, but want to be seen as a special snowflake (see also: Rebecca Sugar). It's a disservice to women who actually date women (like who dates She-Ra showrunner).

What is she eating? Bird seed?

I think it's supposed to be oatmeal but it looks like rice and beans in a paste?

will this be another one of those "show looks great and promising from the pilot and general artworks but if it gets greenlit we are gonna give it to the cheapest korean studio run by blind, hungry, mad people and never review the product because we are busy sucking our own dick in social media to actually care about what happens to the cartoon" kind of shows? because I really it's not that kind of show, please don't be that kind of show.

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See now, making claims like this is pointlessly stupid since there's no way Hirsch would be rewriting a bunch of crap for his girlfriend's show without getting credited and paid for it. And judging by all the nice things he's had to say about working for Disney, I kind of doubt that whenever the show airs we'll be seeing Hirsch's name anywhere in the credits. At least stick to shit that's impossible to disprove rather than stupid garbage like this.

Kys you porn raised incel

Considering the studios they've hired are:
>Rough Draft Studios (Zombie Simpsons; Steven Universe)
>Sunmin (Avengers Assemble; OK KO!)
>Sugarcube (Disney's newcomer who only worked on Star Vs. and Big City Greens)
I'd say don't get your hopes up on the animation front.

They are the same show

I'm just kind of bored of waiting around for it to be honest. I've lost all interest for the time being.

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How so?

Anyone she/Alex are currently fucking over? Also, what’s going on with Cotugno, like what are your thoughts on her? And is there any one on crew who is cool or you’re cool with?

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Do Alex or Dana had disorder or mental illness?

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Both of them have the brain degenerating disease known as "California Liberalism".

Alex deals with an acute case of "Angry Manlet Syndrome" which often leads to his outburst at fans via twitter.

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Anyone have the rest of the Nefcy, Hirsch, Dana Charity Drawings?

Tell us more!

Based Ben Holm chillin' in the back

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I'm gonna judge this show so harshly

when did you realize you grew up to be exactly like the kind of people who gossip about celebrities and watch tmz, except for literally who e-celebs and hollywood hasbeens?

cubone, wuya, the ultimate generic Yea Forums FOTM feminine-tomboy, titular structure and associated magical weapon macguffin (which will never be used as a weapon). this show is a farce.

Everyone gossips, bitch. The difference is whether or not you take that shit to the dinner table as a conversation point with your friends and family.

I doubt anyone here actually talks about Dana Terrace gossip during their lunch with their co-workers.

Interesting, that explains some things I heard.
Did the production go on a break recently?

How gay do you think The Owl House will be?

Wrong.

Who were the coolest people there? Who were the shittiest? Why?

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>A story about a young girl going to an all-girl witch school whose mentor is an older lady
>The only known boy character is a Cubone
>Creator and half the staff working on it constantly talk about the importance of gay representation

What do you think.

Not a defense of Cotugno, but there have been so many forced straight storylines in adventure shows before. Throwing in a random lesbian or gay dude isn't really that much worse than the random "oh, now these characters like each other" thing that has been a part of cartoons before Cotugno was in the industry.

>He kept one of his CalArts girlfriends blocked from getting a job at any big studio because she caught him cheating and freaked out,
who was it?

>Perfection
I don't mind Big City Greens, but you need to realize you're only lying to yourself.

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The problem is not just inherently having a gay couple. No one bitches about Pearl/Rose as being forced, for example. The problem is that Sabrina seems to think that EVERY show she works at also needs to have a B-plot about some gay romance that she made up by taking two random characters from the cast, then she feels like she's getting attacked when her storyboard partners tell roll her eyes because all she ever wants to talk about is gay representation while working on something like Wander Over Yonder.

And people have mentioned shitty straight romances before, they just call them shitty romances or "fuck that love interest, they're annoying".

>>Rough Draft Studios (Zombie Simpsons; Steven Universe)
I like how their name perfectly reflects the quality of their product.

>>Needs to be cucked.......very hard

>>Bisexual?
>>Who bf is GF creator

>dates She-Ra showrunner
Nigga, they MARRIED

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I know he got his sister college fund but what other dramas he had with his sister?

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Both of the Cicieregas are almost definitely undiagnosed autistic which can mean they come off cold, I’ve heard people say both positive and negative things about them but nothing that leads me to believe they’re intentionally jerky or bad people

Interestingly, the first two still do their drawings traditionally (but digitally colored of course) like most outsourced animation while the last one has a fully digital production method. Wonder how noticable the inconsistency will be

Cute drawing/pose but why is my little Luz so sad?

The Owl House. Western isekai.

Why does Dana look significantly less attractive since she changed her hair? Her red hair was cute.

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Someone stole her shoes

No lesbian romance, no buy.

>his sister college fund
i'm still laughing about that. that's fucking brilliant that he got her money and she had to take retail jobs. it makes the rumors about him being a drunk mess in college even funnier.

>lesbian
>attractive

pick one

kys

What are the chances they at least bait a romance between Eda and Luz. Also, would that sort of relationship benefit Luz as a person and character or would it be detrimental?

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Why the fuck does Dana attract so many EZ PZ rumor gossip bullshit? Kate Leth doesn't even attract this much horseshit and she actually deserves to be shat on.

god that at style i just gravity falls lite. the backgrounds could be swapped and you'd never know the difference.

What's the story here?

Why do you think it got fast tracked to be a series? Disney is desperate for their next GF. It's why nuDucktales even exists.

>muh "Every new cartoon is 'Gravity Falls!' comment
It only took about 140 posts, but here it is, folks

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It feels like you’re projecting your hangups with Star Vs. really fucking hard.

>Two shows on Disney about magical girls where Sabrina is at a high creative position

Gee, I fucking wonder why.

Speak for yourself faggot.

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Magical girls are literally just the 2010s meme aesthetic for Millenial women who grew up in the pre/early Tumblr era of the internet. It doesn’t mean that they’re literally the same show, or even vaguely similar at all between the obvious surface level *watches sailor moon once* comparisons.

>user finds some old posts from a CalArts forum
>one of the people in the thread is Hirsch
>Hirsch shit talks his dad and talks about how CalArts is shitty on financial aid
>Hirsch's mom uses his sister's college fund to put Hirsch through art school and Ariel (his sister) has to go work for money so she can pursue her college degree

This is mostly from memory, though, so it may not be 100% accurate. Some user might have the actual screenshot of the post. That's basically the gist of it though. Hirsch used his sisters money to go to art school, while Ariel had to work her way through school. This is made all the more hilarious considering how Hirsch apparently fucked everything that walks and drank to excess at CalArts.

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But based on who the crew is, there absolutely is the possibility that it's just going to go down the road of "Let's pander" more than "Let's tell a story".

who on the crew worries you the most?

holy shit, you really expect us to believe this?

its interesting because the more i look at it the more im puzzled over why i hate the style so much...but now i think i may have cracked it.
its not because theres no angles or points, its because theres an absence of organic shapes.
in nature, exact parallels and perfect shapes are uncommon-- thats why circles and squares and triangles looks so sterile by themselves. A lot of modern cartoons seem to do this thing where they take inorganic shapes and "soften" them so they look less artificial while still keeping the lifelessness.
This might have something to do with the process the shows are animated now, since computers tend to make lines rigid, as well as for ease of reproduction. this is also why off model shots look SO BAD, despite off model shots being pretty normal in cartoons.
older toons had a more fluid, organic feel, so slight changes or off-model instances were less noticeable.

i tried to sketch out what i mean, idk if it makes any sense.

Its even funnier when you remember the Manlet didn't even finish CalArts. He sent out a short and was hired by Disney.

Wait you telling me he didn’t graduated with BFA character animation?

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Dana Terrace
Sabrina Cotugno
Emmy Cicierega
Molly Ostertag

You know, the ones I've already mentioned in the thread.

Eda wants to touch her private parts and won't take no for an answer.

>its the Ezpz twatter drama squad highjacks a cartoon thread to bitch about liberals thread.

I miss the brief periods when Dana threads were about new porn content.

it was posted here before. long time ago.

THAT WASN'T THE FUCKING QUESTION YOU FAGGOT

Not that guy but /gfg/ knew about "Alex hates his dad" thing way before Hirsch came out and talked about the alleged abuse his family suffered (ie they were put out onto the mean streets of Piedmont CA). Specifically the shitposts of Bill being a "rebel" against his evil dad (usually personified as that rough around the edges blue collar dad from that one Ren and Stimpy episode).

I don't know about the Ariel rumors but they existed in /gfg/ too, specifically the bit about the college fund. Connecting the dots, a single mom probably wouldn't be able to afford to pay for two kid's colleges, I'm surprised she even managed to pay for one. Ariel currently holds a degree-mill tier "massage therapist" job.

All EZ PZ did was take /gfg/ hackposting and make a video on it. The only thing I don't recall /gfg/ knowing about was the "shitting in trash cans" bit but it was generally rumored that he slept in the office and was often smelly and unkempt.

I know some industry insiders (Hirsch himself even) frequented /gfg/ in its prime so it makes me genuinely curious if some of the hackposting was started by resentful coworkers. A few people in the industry (Joe Pitt and Luke Weber mainly) have been name dropped but I've seen no outside evidence they actually did it.

*unzips dick*

Actually they're engaged, but not married yet. Their wedding will be pretty epic from what I heard.

What's the problem with Misha? He seems to be a cool guy.

The things with the owl house is we don't really know anything about the show. All this kind of threads always get derailed because there's nothing to discuss about

it's for her benefit.

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Why do boring white people thing nattering on and on about who or what they fuck makes them more interesting as opposed to more obnoxious?

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In the Owl House in the Owl House
One shack three members
Hope you don't assume their gender

yeah sure, just give a damn release month or something, at this rate w'ell see a trailer at sdcc, and a release in fall, which thematically is ok, just the wait is killer.

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Guyz! Guyz!
Can we stop complaining and just post brown loli lewds

More like The Foul House

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the "shits in trash cans" thing did indeed come from /gfg/

i want to lick that armpit

100%. Look at what happened with Adventure Time. This is targeting the same demo, just with an androgynous, agender main character. Eda would be a mother figure and a lover, the best of both worlds for Luz.

>agender
Fuck off with your rumors.

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>agender
It's a girl faggot, it's literally a brown Usagi.

god this image is cluttered. that background needs way less saturation and detail

this is gonna happen at some point in the show, right?

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like Sugar, she could be a non-binary female.

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>reminder this show is /ll/ propaganda
I'm okay with this

Fuck that shit, I just want a regular tomboy for once.

why not fall in love with a nb tomboy? same thing except they don't identify as a straight up male or female.

Typically, someone who says to call them "they/them" or calls themselves non-binary comes with baggage that's not worth dealing with.

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>non-binary female
What does this even mean? Isn't the whole point to be neither male nor female?

Leggings + shorts is a design choice that bothers me more than it should. Can't really explain why.

The difference being these are cartoon characters. Your cartoon tomboy crushes are not at all like real tomboys, sorry to burst your bubble.

It makes me highly aroused

Any cartoon character who is labelled as non-binary by the creator is most likely a shitty character not worth liking to begin with.

Not really - I'm just hoping THIS AND AMPHIBIA can BOTH be better than Star Vs. Only because I can't stand Star Vs., honestly... Unless it's Ludo & Toffee - and they're not enough to save said show. I'm hoping THIS AND AMPHIBIA can hopefully be enjoyable in all areas and continue to remind me of why I enjoy most of Disney's cartoons in general over most others as of late.

I like Big City Greens and I agree with this based motherfucker right here! Whoever thinks it's God's Gift to Man ATM is fucking lying to themselves. This show and Amphibia (hopefully) will replace it and overshadow almost immediately, once they come out!

Somewhat based and agreed, m8.

Fuck you, I was actually OK with that (and Penn Zero, too - because I'm like the only person who will proudly ever stand up for that show, honestly.); but yeah - I know this and Amphibia will be far superior products, to tell the truth to myself.

>and Penn Zero, too - because I'm like the only person who will proudly ever stand up for that show, honestly.
I liked the villains, I guess. They were the only reason I ever watched any episode.

you're female presenting and identify with many female aspects but you don't feel like you fit into the female mode or traditional feminity

I knew a few like that. They looked kinda cute, but were definitely like an irl expression of Tumblr

>you're female presenting and identify with many female aspects but you don't feel like you fit into the female mode or traditional feminity

It just sounds like people who want these terms to catch on themselves live in a limited world.

Female can just refer to what you are biologically and femininity can refer to specific traits that can be described for both men, women, and as a general noun.The latter just helps describe concepts that have roots in truthful stereotypes plus historical context, but it should just be easy to desperate "female" from "feminine".

But whatever. I guess people would rather give themselves a ton of labels than say, "I'm a girl who likes baggy jeans and wrestling". Tomboy was a shitty term back in the day and all we've done is replace it with "non-binary female". Can't wait to see what the next term will be in 20 years.

how does this make you feel?

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why is that? i think it looks pretty cute.

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I knew a few. I had a crush on one. They introduced me to anime. They also named themselves after a Steven Universe character. Very cool person, I miss them.

Nothing.

Because leggigns alone or shorts alone would look better. It's just one of those socks+sandals kind of thing for me.

same user Guess I'm the only one who liked most of the main characters on that show, not just the villains - because yeah - they were pretty damn funny themselves (Boone was pretty crap, though...). Simply enough, I can understand thoroughly what you're getting at, now that I pointed that one out.

Anyway - post more Luz and Eda. NOW.

I don't know dis is but she looks coyote af

>are you excited to watch her show?
Let me put it this way: I'm more excited to watch Mexican Gravity Falls than anything coming out of Disney right now.

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I think they'd probably argue that they're the ones who are not limiting themselves to strict and binary aspects of "male" or "female" but I get what you mean.

I actually think it's pretty good, overall. I'd rather people assign themselves labels like non-binary than feel stuck in a label and being compelled by others to conform to their idea of what that should be. Maybe it sounds sorta lame, but I just want people to feel happy about who they are.

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What sorts of styles or fashions appeal to you, user? Like what styles do you find cute or appealing?

It's Luz from the upcoming Disney show "The Owl House"

Also, coyote? Is that some new term I'm not hip to or did you misspell cute?

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Any of you feel bad for Ariel?
She sacrificed her future for Alex and works in a dead end job
What does her brother think of this?

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Do you just not want to ever have a threesome, user? These blessed people make it possible.

Has anyone in this thread ever had an honest threesome before? Or got close? It’s such a common thing in media but I’ve never met someone who actually had one before.

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Probably not in this thread.

But I know it's feasible based on who you know. Like, Be friends with sexually libertine/bi women + Have social status in your friend group + Go party with your friends = eventual threesome.

I aint the type who can accomplish that shit but I knew a girl who was in a couple of sexually libertine social circles. The guys and girls there did that sorta stuff on the reg.

Also, it's worth noting I've heard threesomes are pretty overrated. In that it's not really better than one on one sex, some people found it worse.

What is my wife doing on this board?

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how do you become friends with these people/get in their social circles?

>I knew a girl who was in a couple of sexually libertine social circles

what'd she say about it?

Also being with someone who is bi you could never trust them to NOT cheat on you.

>I was actually OK with that
Shitty taste.

>what'd she say about it?
I mean, she had some fun stories. Some people were kinda flaky (hook up with you then be super avoidant/ghosty) but that's inevitable with any group.

Honestly I was stupidly reserved when we lived in the same town so I never dug into it too much. (never slut-shamed her or anything, I was totally cool, just didn't pry too much.)

>How do you become friends with these people?

Well, she probably had an easier time getting in because she was woman who wasn't bad looking. Personally I knew her from HS

Though from what I gather in her new town is that she met people through dating sites and parties. After one successful connection with someone it sorta self-perpetuates from there: If you meet a sexually open/active person they will know other sexually open/active people most of the time. Best advice I can give is make an open minded friend who has a social life and try to find outings like house parties and stuff through them.

As for meeting people in general, that's hard, and there's no real way into it. Just do stuff outside, group activities, local hobby shit, ect. I suppose -and key in on who's less socially conservative, ie. open to partying. Having just ONE friend who gets invited to parties opens up a whole world for you. Imagine having, three, or five. If you maintain those friendships you'll often have openings to go to social outings and will probably start getting invited to them yourself eventually.

Anyway, I'm not the best advice giver for this, I'm not successful in that sort of thing, I just know people who are. Either way, good luck.

why do you say that? has it happened to you before?

Not really, a bi woman isn't more likely to cheat on you because she could sleep with girls too.

It really depends on how you treat her hooking up with women. A lot of guys will have a bi GF and encourage her to hook up with girls and treat it as not cheating because "lol its hot" but thats a huge fucking mistake. There's nothing wrong with an open relationship but you have to treat her hooking up with girls and guys as the same or else it just muddies the water and instills a weird uncomfortable set of rules for the relationship.

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I once knew a MF couple where the girl was allowed to fuck other girls when the guy was away but not allowed to fuck other guys. The reasoning was that FF apparently didn't count as cheating because it wasn't "real sex", but MF was.

I have

I'm a woman married to another woman. I'd say we're both bi, but it's more like we're both 8/10 lesbians. Had a threesome with one of our closest female friends, then a foursome with her and her hot 46 year old daddy bf

it's pretty easy to fall into if everyone is kind of relaxed and casual, but smart about sex. communication is key.

I remember art history. That concept's older than the Cold War.

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Same, people treat it like that a lot. But honestly there's no real difference in my opinion.

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>Had a threesome with one of our closest female friends, then a foursome with her and her hot 46 year old daddy bf
how'd you pull both of these off? i mean, i'm sure it's super awkward to propose it to someone, especially if they know you're married. how'd they both react when you asked them?

>people treat it like that a lot
i wonder why? sex is sex. just because there isn't any penile penetration doesn't mean it's masturbation with another human body. plus, it'd be kinda messed up to basically tell someone that they're your human sex toy (unless it's some bdsm type stuff).

how did JK manage to piss off all her fans and trash any goodwill she still possessed with former readers?

You're disgusting

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