Why aren't beach episodes and fanservice in general more prevalent in western cartoons?

Horseshoe Theory.

Liberals have unironically become ass backwards and conservative now, they aren’t what they are supposed to be and that’s why I’m against the left now because it literally isn’t what the left should be anymore.

puritan ghosts

Stop saying "western" when you mean American already, you fat worthless fucks.

Sex bad
Violence good

>Liberals have become conservative
How? Because they are prudes about women being shown the wrong way in media? I'll remind you that liberalism still promotes homosexuality and loose lifestyles, they promote the smashing of anything they deem archaic just because. They are not conservative in the slightest.

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Everything is ass backwards. Fucking hell I still cringe every time someone says "unironic", because it shows the default state of people is now some gay ass distance towards earnestness.

Because they’re garbage.

>Because they are prudes about women being shown the wrong way in media?
Yes, they’ve literally become conservative in the way that they become stuffy puritans and in this sex negative culture they propagate now.

Oh no? How about coddling Islam and demanding that the female form be obscured?

I want to punish that Suyin. Anally.

>not wanting to see a bunch of 2D girls in their prime showing off their bodies while having fun on the beach
Only thing that's garbage here is your taste.

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Well, that's just the bleedin' heart of liberalism, isn't it? Contradictory ideas of tolerance for everything.

Cartoons are generally targeted towards children so you won’t be seeing much fanservice due to that

The unironic/ironic thing is the faggiest shit. People are so afraid to say that they genuinely like something that they say they "ironically" like it. No you don't. You fucking enjoy it. It's ok to enjoy things that not everyone else does, Jesus fucking Christ.

First of all, 14 year olds.

Second. Because westerners are more likely to call out a network's creepisode for being creepy.

>First of all, 14 year olds.
>Second. Because westerners are more likely to call out a network's creepisode for being creepy.
>>>>/tumblr/

This episode is the only one where I've seen it done decently

You're just mad because I'm morally better than you.

That's silly. To be morally better, you have to actually act on those feelings, and slacktivism doesn't count.

>let’s censor the media and create a nanny state
1. That’s the exact opposite of being morally better
2. Thanks for showing how your kind only does this to jerk off your self righteous self image

But hey, I don’t claim to be a saint just because I refuse to live in your Orwellian hug box police state

You'd much prefer Huxley's box, right?

No, I just don’t want to live in some terrible shithole where free expression is dead because everything is either a micro aggression or objectification/sexist. I fucking despise your kind and all the same type of self righteous yuppies with the same kind of mentality, it’s this exact kind of behavior that spawned the soccer moms and fundies of yesteryear.

If it's a police state than it doesn't matter what you choose to do, your compliance isn't a factor.

No no. You misunderstand. I'm not saying that I'm morally better in general. I'm saying that I'm morally better than YOU. In the specific.

>I’m better then you because I scream at TV execs when a cartoon character isn’t in a full body suit burqa, because swimsuits of prettier girls make me feel self conscious
Holy fuck get over yourself

Nope. I'm morally better than you because I don't put words in people's mouths or stawman other people's arguements when they disagree over the fact that fanservice (literally stated in the op) of 14 year olds is kinda creepy.

I'm also morally better than you because I'm on the side that finds fan service of 14 year old girls to be creepy. In case that wasn't clear.

Feminazis

>muh Puritan values means I’m better
Kill yourself, and you are putting words into people’s mouth by trying to say they’re creepy. You’re the exact definition of social justice scum that is destroying the media like a plague. If you want to do something actually good you’d kill yourself and rid the world of an actual problem for once, that’s the only type of activism you could eve contribute that would matter.

Not the same user but...
>I'm also morally better than you because I'm on the side that finds fan service of 14 year old girls to be creepy
I find that fanservice creepy too but i'm moral in my own way, that word has been used as a kind of social doctrine for thousands of years and people like you are the ones who fall into that game.

You're morally inferior for placing yourselves above others without merit. Until you are placed in a situation that tests your moral compass and its strength, you are no better than creeps who say they'd diddle the children but haven't been tested on it.

Signaled virtue means nothing, because it takes no effort to accomplish.

Japan has more coastline relative to its land area. I honestly think this is the only reason.

I'm also morally better because I don't deflect the argument regarding the sexualization of 14 year olds by devolving into crazed non sequitur rants. Instead I address the central point point and argue with a rational head regarding my views on sexualization 14 year olds.

I also don't sexualize or ask for fan service of 14 year olds.

It’s not a deflection, you literally are a social justice nut with an inflated sense of morality from arbitrary and useless reasons. You aren’t better then anyone because you’re a stuffy prude, infact you are one of the most insufferable people I’ve had the displeasure to talk to on this site. Your personality is why I hate self proclaimed activists so goddamn much.

If they really were morally correct, I would find them even more disgusting. The worst of all evils is a good man who does nothing, so signaling virtue without action is patently disgusting to me.

No no no no. I never said I was morally better in general. I'm saying that I'm morally better than this guy: I don't know about you guys, you guys might be moral paragon compared to me. I'm just saying that I'm definitely better than this guy: in the specific.

Not everyone needs or wants to fap to crappy cartoons

Doing nothing except saying you're superior, thus fucking disgusting.

Alright then, I’m going to bust an especially large nut to ty lee tonight, and the thought of your seething prudefag tears will make it all the more pleasurable. Chow

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Probably since it turns out to be one of the worst episodes in the series

I never claimed to be an activist. Not once. You ascribed those qualities to me because you have the idea of what a social justice warrior is in your head. And you seem (from my point of view) to want to argue with it so much that staple those qualities to someone without actually taking stock of their argument.

Literally my argument is that I'm better than you because I don't sexualize 14 year olds or advocate for 14 year old fan service.

I'm also better than you because I don't argue against social justice warriors when the topic of discussion is fan service of 14 year old girls.

Go with God, my brother.

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See, THAT'S an argument. You're literally the only guy who's called me out without devolving into some unrelated tangent. Congrats! Run with it!

>I never claimed to be an activist.
Yet you act as obnoxious as one and just as preachy. Thanks for nitpicking specifics and semantics and missing the whole point, you social justice scum

I’m going to go blow my load to ty lees titties now, ttyl

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Yet here you are, arguing on an anonymous image board about your superior morality for not sexualizing a fictional character whose age is entirely a lore point.

You seem to be FAR more engaged in this than I am. And I'm not stopping you from fapping to whatever you want. I'm just saying I'm morally better than: because I'm not into 14 year old fan service. That's all.

>I’m literally Jesus because I refrain from smacking my meat to drawings
Y I K E S

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That is a little unfair. The claim to moral superiority is horseshit because, for fuck's sake, the 14 year olds aren't even real, but I don't think the user is going that far.

I'm only arguing that I'm superior to this guy: in the specific.

Like I said. I know nothing about the rest of you. I might be a degenerate in a den of Olympian gods. I just know for sure that I'm better than:

Never said that. I literally said that I'm better than this dude: . In the specific. That's all.

Phoneposters.

Alright then prude god, then I hope you don’t mind if post more sexy ty lee, mhmkay?

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>Olympian gods
Now you're claiming immorality, since you're apparently inferior to dudes that raped women while shape-shifted into animals or turned them into spiders because of being a sore loser.
Either way, I say you're equal, since he's not fiddling his faddle to real teens. There are no victims harmed, thus no moral victory in your meaningless declaration.

No problem. I'm just saying that I'm morally superior to you for it.

Did you actually read that post? I'm guessing not.

Nah, you’re a faggot bitch who won’t stop parroting his own egotistical nonsense to stroke his dick off with.

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ATLA was probably the only American cartoon to do a beach episode properly.

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Seethe and cope, pedo incels

Not many shows in general have.
ALTA actually made the episode have a point, and it wasnt just boring filler.

>incels
>pedo

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I don't really have to. Your claim to superiority is as empty as the insults being chucked your way, and I tire of this foolish posturing.

>t. Pedo incel

Cope

>T. Permavirgin feminazi

Seethe and cry, pedo dicklet

Stay raging that no one will ever fuck your lardass, no matter how much you check their privledge

That user seems really desperate to make sure we all know he's "morally superior", a little too desperate. You projecting a bit there user? There's no need to be ashamed of fapping to fictional teenage girls bro.

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Just start watching French cartoons.

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>seethecopeincelpedoledabdabdabdabdab XD

Based.

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I prefer Skyrim with porn mods in that case

Yeah, it felt like a waste of time for the whole episode, and the actual character development was all forced at the end in a really ham-fisted way

How about French comics?

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Because its often garbage filler

protestants

Oddly one of the most recent western shows to do it was the horse show's magical high school girls spinoff.

Because we need Halloween episodes

And most likely the last.

Already binge watched wakfu user, any more suggestions?

>Nick is afraid to have them in standard bikinis because fans will photoshop them to look naked easily.
>Nick is perfectly fine with leotards and bikinis without towels or sarongs or non-nylon shorts or other shit on females in shows like The X's, The Mighty B!, Back at the Barnyard, Danny Phantom, The Fairly OddParents, My Life as a Teenage Robot, Tak and the Power of Juju (prehistoric/tribal clothing that looks like it albeit), T.U.F.F. Puppy, Hey Arnold!, As Told By Ginger, The Wild Thornberrys, The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius, Catscratch, All Grown Up!, The Angry Beavers, Rocket Power, CatDog, Rugrats, ChalkZone, El Tigre: The Adventures of Manny Rivera, SpongeBob SquarePants, etc.

what was the fanservice

Wait are you serious? Explanation is simple: ATLA has the most "realistic" looking characters of all of those shows. In all the others the characters looks significantly less sexy despite wearing more revealing swimsuits, so Nick didn't care.

Lastman.

>Nick was perfectly fine with a character in a one piece swimsuit in The Legend of Korra

The simple answer is the west, in general, is scared of sexuality

I want the timeline where Avatar was made in France. Even if it meant eventually we got Korra with massive pit bush.

>implying all the west is scared.

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>spoiler
YASSSSS

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Because anything sexy = adult content in America
And cartoons are for children

Because fanservice is stupid. If you want porn, watch porn.

What is with you idiots? Is your sex drive so high that your monkey brain tells you you can’t enjoy a show unless they devote time to sexualizing the characters instead of whatever actually makes the show great?

Thx gonna give it a watch.

there are so many cartoons with realistically drawn females that weren't afraid to show females in them.

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I mostly meant a beach episode/scene (there were several beach themed shorts and a part in a hour long special). Obviously it's not intentionally sexualized and there's no blatant anime-style fanservice but it's by far the most skin they've ever shown, with several of them wearing two piece swimsuits. Plus the characters are designed to look cute/attractive and actually have defined boobs and figures unlike many/most other modern kids cartoons.

But that's less revealing? So my point stands?

In today's episode of Mahou Shoujo Tokushusen Asuka there was a dad trying and failing to get his underage amputee daughter a job as a prostitute, then beats her while drunk, then gets killed by a magical African child soldier. Then the opening plays. Then we get a beach episode. Then a nurse theme magical girl tortures a little girl that is missing her arm.

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pretty sure is less revealing too

because it definitely isn't easy to strip someone of by accident

it still stands.

I think you're both being faggots.

pretty sure avatar had a beach episode

it did you dummy

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>TFW Sharon Spitz from Braceface is a proto-SJW and doesn't even have a single problem with wearing a bathing suit herself unobscured in public.

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Because incels aren't the target audience

this.
fan service without a point or contribution to the plot is fucking boring and useless.
and its equally useless and boring in episodic shows unless you do something creative or funny with it.

Because most cartoons you care about are made in/for America, home to one of the most conservative Christian populations on the planet. Most of whom still think the medium is for 'children'.

it is.
grow the fuck up.

Stick that stick out of your ass you gigantic fucking faggot. There's nothing wrong with fanservice being thrown in, especially in a filler episode like The Beach. Nobody is asking for softcore porn or hentai. Are you THAT prudish that you can't enjoy a show unless none of the characters are physically attractive and show off that attractiveness?

What do you mean by proto SJW?

as in given how she has spoken about animal rights and racism and such I imagine she would be speaking about body image.

most Americans don't know what the beach look like unless they literally live less than 10 miles from it.

Because western cartoons aren't supposed to engage an obsesive demographic.

Avatar girls exist to be lewded. That fact that a porn parody game pulls nearly 17k a month is a testament to the amount of people who get off to these girls.

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>Beach episodes involves swimsuits and western animation is terrified of anyone looking sexy. Can't even draw girls with breasts and not be called a misogynist and that it degrades and sexualizes women.
tl;dr I never saw a Family Guy or Futurama episode

And that fucking shit doesn't end the love route of book 3.

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Suyin was an annoying piece of shit and even if Zaofu wasn't rightful Earth Kingdom clay (which it totally was, Kuvira did nothing wrong) it still deserved to get razed to the ground

>wanting more fanservice in western animation

Motherfucker the lack of fan service is why I like cartoons better than anime. All fan service does is ruin character design and waste precious screen time on 'le hilarious NEET accidentally falls face first into BIG ANIME TIDDIES and she hits him' gags.
Most cartoon episode are already 10 minutes or less. Let your animated porn be animated porn and your stories be stories.

Well...

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Or for that matter why French media is cancer. The entire thing is basically one big sex joke.

If you consider that shit fanservice...
You're terminal crazy motherfucker, loudfag

did they ever finish this? I can't find the latest version.

Cry more you fucking fag.

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It's still ongoing. Latest version came out earlier in February.

does my point stand that it's less revealing than a standard bikini?

Everyone knows they like to use Lori/Leni as token fanservice because they're the only sisters old enough that you can fap to them without being a pedo.

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link?

Asshurt landwhale detected.

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Don't worry, some day you'll be old enough to look at fully naked girls online.

Also that gif isn't really fanservice.

Leela and Amy were naked how many times?

>that projecting
If you don't have an argument then just don't post user, it's less embarrassing that way.

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Don't see why it's inappropriate for a children's cartoon. Don't kids go to the beach on a family vacation? What would they see on a cartoon that they wouldn't see there?

anybody who asks "why modern cartoons don't do X" doesn't actually watch modern cartoons and should not be listened to.

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Because the beach is associated with flirting and relationships among teens, and since there's a sizeable adultmale audience for western cartoons, that sort of thing is too taboo. Can't have official sexy teens in swimsuits for all the creepy fat men to drool over.

Again, a whole lot of the US is not near the beach which isn't the case for Japan and a good portion of Europe.

Well, unless but that show is kind of pervy anyway.

New version is out in a couple weeks. It's expected to wrap up the end of book 3 love route. You can find it on f95 or I think I public build is available for free on the patreon.

youtu.be/GRyyJy1doqY
Were I given uniliateral world domination i'd have this scene play every day at 6pm during mandated food delivery and consumption.

Suki needs to have her own path.

>incel

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> this thread is old and everything has likely already been said
> I dont see how that affects me.
Western toons are specifically targeted toward children. As such, there is no need for sexual content of any kind. Even romantic content is generally silly and is mostly added to improve female viewership. The few people looking to target an audience beyond children are tageting adults who, presumably, nver grew up and, thus, can't be trusted to pay attention to anything that isnt just flopping sex around or isnt constantly attempting to pass off a laughtrack as jokes. This highlights the inherent stupidity of a culture that expects children to remain pure and righteous until the moment they turn [arbitrary adult birthday] at whichpoint they are encouraged to become sexual deviants, economists, political experts and highly productive employees.
> Stop your ranting.
Yeah, ok.

>why do people always call me an incel?

Because you can’t stop projecting your own insecurities into strawman argument, feminazi

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Gib sauce

Yeah. Everyone calling you an incel because they're a virgin, sexist, sex-maniac and you aren't

Ty lee is the only one with boobs in that show
fuck spoilers

different target audience
like how in the original pokemon, Misty is pretty blocky looking despite wearing short shorts and a crop tank top, and in the recent re-imagining of the original series, they put a ton of effort into outlining the loli main character's entire crotch
they expected different people to watch

Yes, I know how mad you are that no guy wants to settle for a misandrist landwhale like yourself, it’s no need to become a megaprude from your own seething rage at any female prettier then you, which constitutes 99% of the population. Nor does it excuse your putriatin crusade against sexualization because you can’t control your own immature and rabid jealously of women with a figure, it’s not our fault you can put down the fork and act like a healthy human being.

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So what's with incels and thinking anyone calling them out is a trans lol.
Do they really believe this or is it a desperate attempt to cope?
No woman will ever have sex with you because you're a toxic piece of shit and you become perpetually more toxic by the day.

You're both faggots, now shut the fuck up.

>misandrist
This isn't a thin, you goddamn babyman.

That's more likely because the new stuff was made by animators who were kids during the Pokemon 1st gen and they decided to draw the Misty fanservice they'd always wanted to see.

Did you only just now realise that leftism =/= liberalism? Underage get out

Proto-Eska with short hair was perfect.

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I can definitely be sure that this bikini would be more modest than a standard bikini that Ty Lee would've been in

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Japan has a whole industry that is focused less on telling a story and more in shoving them full of a waifu grab bag in the hopes one will win lonely guys over and they'll thus buy soundtracks, figurines, etc.

The West doesn't really do that. There's certainly cheesecake merchandise but not really any blatant attempt to put out waifus.

Even the focus evolution is different. Japan kinda thinks nothing of giving a female character a sadist angle and having the voice actress play up to it. Western media instead has focused more on representation of gender issues.

Americans are just too busy putting naked little boys in cartoons, Since they are all gay pedos.

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Damn Finn is thicc, glad he is not wasting those buns with a dumb girlfriend

>toxic piece of shit
Holy projection Batman, it’s like you know why you can’t get dicked but can’t accept it without projecting those feelings like the irrational being you are

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>babyman
You’re not on tumblr anymore, get better material roastie

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What bothers me is that Lolirock couldn't even show the main fucking girls with fully exposed standard bikinis yet everyone else was fine with bathing suits being fully exposed.

>Burgers are hilariously prudish which is ironic given the general culture in the US.

That explains why you don't give a shit about rapes.

>Oy that girl is naked, bleeding and crying!
>WIPE THAT BLOOD OFF YA YE SCARLET WHAT AR YA?
>Bloody yanks corrupting our town, kid be thinkan it ok to hav em wounds be bleeden all ova!

The meme "don't need to tolerate intolerance" isn't all that much of a meme.
Calling Hitler a piece of shit who deserved to be gassed, isn't very hypocritical

I have porn for that. I’d rather have an actually good episode than fanservice which is nothing more than a shittier version of what already exists.

But that’s just what you are, a miserable cunt who wants to use strawman and projection because your temper tantrum hasn’t gotten you to get everything you want.

The only thing I want is to point and laugh at you incels for being miserable cunts and going into a downward spiral

>literally parroting my response
So retarded and a projecting permavirgin feminist, how laughably pathetic

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Thank God this wasn't made in the 2010s then.

>boobs aren't even jiggling

Well first off, I've been in the same relationship for 6 years.
And second, HAHAHAHAHA
Go die in a ditch incel cuz no woman will ever want to touch you

>Well first off, I've been in the same relationship for 6 years.
No you haven’t
>And second, HAHAHAHAHA
Not an argument
>Go die in a ditch incel cuz no woman will ever want to touch you
No one would ever want to fuck a pasty overweight man hating fuck like you, your argument has no power because I would never want to be with a detestable subhuman like you. Keep screaming impotently at men because they won’t bend over backwards for your bullshit, because newsflash they still won’t even if you threatened to close off your smelly fish hole.

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>No you haven’t
Don't believe me. idfag. You're going to be the one who's going to have to take a trip to Thailand so you can pay a hooker to take your virginity
>Not an argument
Not meant to be one. Just pointing and laughing at your despair

Also, I'm not a woman, a transwoman or w.e. other label you're trying to project onto me.

Now go get your shine box!

>Not meant to be one. Just pointing and laughing at your despair
>Also, I'm not a woman, a transwoman or w.e. other label you're trying to project onto me.
Oh, so you’re even more pathetic. You’re the cuckboi Uncle Tom licking the dirty clam of your obese roastie master like the gutless sniveling traitor shit you are. You are lower then dog shit, you’ll never be anything but the hated token male of your feminist circle, and they will never fuck your scrawny ass either.

I find it ironic you claim projecting.
That's also very funny

Because that’s a quite accurate summarization of your entire lot in life. White knight allys cucks are with out a doubt one of the most revolting beings on this earth.

When other people call you out on your inceldom(which you clearly haven't refuted at all so I'm clearly accurate in that assessment), it's projecting, but when you do it, it's an "accurate summarization".

Have you thought that your "accurate summarizations" are so shit and that's why you're an incel?

>Think decency and strict family life style is only a thing for shitskin life form that slice people's throat and shoot people at café in france
I like how you have no conception of the past, back in the 80's or the 90's, saying the kind of retarded shit in your post would have gotten you a well deserve face in the pavement.

tl;dr tell your 2 dads that they should have fucked you in the ass harder.

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It isn’t accurate though, because again anything that comes from a pathetic suck up virgin like yourself is flawed because why should I take anything from a gender traitor cuck that looks like pic related, and calls everyone that doesn’t bend over and emasculate themselves into your bidding an incel, a strawman by the way built upon projection from your own being you miserable pile of filth.

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>Damn Finn is thicc
Yup, He's thicc alright.

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Nah, that same behavior that shitskins want is what feminist prudes want now too, so it should be condemned

I don't usually replies to schizos.
but What "behavior" are you talking about exactly?

Holy shit you are so far gone.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you became the next mass shooter

/pol/ is the fucking worst. Your enemies are entirely fictional because you can't even understand that there are factions in politics and that almost everybody with influence acts in accordance to their own self-interest.

There is no fucking culture war. Society at large is not going to turn gay just because She-Ra fingers a cat girl. You don't have to care about whether or not Star Wars has a black actor in it, because whatever it's doing is the most shallow, inconsequential, corporate, money-driven shit and it's not going to advance nor influence anyone who doesn't already agree with the surface-level message they promoted on Twitter. The battles you fight are actually the LEAST important ones, and that's what self-interested people want you to do: waste your time sqaubbling over an actor's penis or whatever, so long as you keep voting for the right penis team and validate that gerrymandering.

>Let me tell you how the Liberals are!
All you know about the Liberals is that one is named Hillary, one is named Obama, one is named Nancy, and the latest one is named Hernan Cortez or something.

you're retarded to ignore the impact of propaganda in entertainment media and to assume if people hate these or those it's simply because they don't understand it.
Wich ironicaly, is also a narrative encouraged and promoted by propaganda in media.

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YOU'RE retarded.

Black Panther didn't advance black people. I mean I don't see Flint, Michigan with clean water yet, do you? And that's because a movie about magical black people doesn't do anything for real black people.

She-Ra didn't advance the gays. They don't live in Eternia. That shit doesn't mean anything. She-Ra barely even has any personality and this is supposed to inspire people to - what? Not work for Hordak and his blatantly evil toy line?

No, retarded user. I'll tell you what this IS about.

A D V E R T I S I N G.

If you want to look at who's spreading this controversy, look no further than yourself. Whether you're praising it or whining about it, you're promoting the product on forums and across the internet. Google, being retarded as it is, will then find whole gaggles of like-minded people and show them your posts or posts like it to let them know She-Ra is out there, and Black Panther is on the way, and you really need to see it so you can develop an in-depth opinion and REALLY refute that show or movie on Youtube!

You're a fucking corporate shill who doesn't get paid and who has no real impact on society, because in real terms these cartoons and movies have no serious impact on anybody.

>advertising
Ah alright, just one tiny question tho, what is being advertised exactly?

In your autistic screeching and your tears of confusions, I noticed you don't really understand how advertising work and somehow you believe that showing niggers or carpet munching dykes count as advertising.

The show itself gaining a bad reputation for not being family orianted is a not advertising btw,

>white knighting for fictional cartoon characters

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>Ah alright, just one tiny question tho, what is being advertised exactly?
Their brands your retard.

Better question: Why aren't Ty Lee all over my dick episodes more prevalent in western cartoons?

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Says the mentally deranged emasculated soi sucker

>Their brand
You're gona have to go a little more into details if you want to be taken seriously.

how is including niggers in unfitting settings, decadent fags into family shows and all the other crap of the sort that are off place and context as fuck, promoting a brand in any way or form.

This should be easy to answer, even a retard would understand if it's explained properly.

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les kasos

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Jesus Christ, will you two faggots just fuck already. Goddamn, you're so fucking autistic it's gone past being hilarious to just fucking sad how autistic and stupid you both are. Go fucking chimp out somewhere else.

Because user, we in the west try not to promote pederasty(save for the French), while the japanese are ok with it.

>more prevalent in western cartoons?
Do you have brain damage? K-On didn't even wait until the second half of the season, they gave up and had their fourth episode be the dull fanservice episode.

Turns out I'm the one with brain damage. Fuck.

>now kiss

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FUCK

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>le tumlor meeem
>better material
>roastie

Ironic, or retarded?

>implying
Both of you have shit arguments.

No they don't.

Only 2 or 3 more years for this shit to finally be done
fuck

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I swear despite Dan Schneider's shows having that foot fetish the females seemed so afraid to not have towels or non-nylon shorts covering their bikini bottoms or one piece bottoms sometimes.