Why did she end up being so useless in the end?

This, but probably not the shut-in part. All the major characters that do things are male. Even those Foretellers have only one woman in their ranks.

Why did you end up being so useless in the end, bitch

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She has her hair combed over her eyes. That's usually a pretty good indication that a character is useless.

>frogposter
Go suck your own cock you faggot.

Because she has the weak heart of a woman and that's a real.thing in Japan

Still kept him alive.

So when the next spinoff comes out she can start coming into her own.

>Even those Foretellers have only one woman in their ranks.
Two, and of the 5 foretellers, the most important one was Ava.

what about Mash?

>mash
>useful
galahad was useful, mash was just a child in a f1 that barely managed to not crash into anything. the fact she's sidelined the moment he leaves is proof.

Nomura and another director have a specific idea what feminity is supposed to look like and were surprised that Aqua was popular for kicking ass.

Haha, do you see the way Nomura writes "people"? It's like he's never interacted with one before.

This. Why did anyone expect Kairi to beat any Nort after her training. Xemnas alone was strong enough to push KH2 Sora and Riku to their limits. Even Lea was beaten to shit by him in KH3.

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Isn't it that they're trying to pander to fujos with all the dudes that said fujos can imagine fucking each other?

Not to mention the fact that all Carry and Accel did was just learn to summon their keyblades and probably do some basic power shit. Not like Merlin summoned heartless and nobodies for them to fight.
Sure, it sucks that she didn't get a kill on one of the Norts, but at least she got to be there in the actual fight and not just stuck on the sidelines as in the last two mainline entries.

>when she inexplicably turned Sora from Heartless to normal
That was explained, it was her love for Sora (and probably her Princess of Heart power too)

Because it isnt the end just yet

Terra no pass!

Okay I believe you.

She was always useless. I don’t know why people expected her to do anything. She was a damsel in distress in all the KH games where she was somewhat important. She always sucked.

I thought Nomura didin't think Aqua would be popular because she's not connected to the established characters the way Terra and Ven were. (Which is bizarre, since Nomura's the one who controls that.)

What about Sora, He was asleep for a year but has been awake and fighting for probably less than 2 months. Wasn't even meant to be the wielder of the Kingdom Key and has also been Metroid-ed several times over and yet gets the job done.

Nah, otherwise they wouldn't feel the need to suddenly insert a previously unknown female character into the Saix-Axel "friendship" which Saix was in love with.

Holy shit this art is terrible

>You actually expect someone who has, at most, a month or two training
In a hyperbolic time chamber though. They specifically say she's training in a place where time doesn't matter.
Turns out it was for no reason.

>Not like Merlin summoned heartless and nobodies for them to fight.
We don't know the extent of their training because the only thing deemed important to show was them sitting on a log talking.

They've also got to pimp the mobile game since that's where their money is made.
Ntice Sora and Riku get to go on a gay road trip with Noctis? Fujos still get what they want.

Its different though, he's the Protagonist of the series and has the kind of plot armor that lets him pull off that crap.
Yeah, and all that amounted to her was fighting off Heartless, Nobodies, and Unversed. Again, she's still facing off against 13 people who have more combat experience then she has who are also possessed and or are a man who could care less whether or not you survive his crazy plot to purge the universe.

I say once more, this wasn't lazy writing, this was realism.

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Because Nomura is terrified at the idea of Sora looking at a vagina.

Fun fact: The manga and various fanfics show that Kairi can actually be a good character if Nomura wasn't constantly appealing to fujoshits

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In a story where plot armor shows up whenever it damn well wants to, it's perfectly reasonable to assume that it's being applied inconsistently and that this is a result of lazy writing.
Here's an idea. Just don't give Kairi a keyblade at all! Why bother introducing a plot point and tease it across 3 games if fuck all is going to come from it?

They could've just let her at home on the islands and she gets kidnapped again same as always instead of the bait and switch.

I really hope she somehow turns evil in the next installment. That's the only smart move to do with her character now.

Because she IS useless. God this pisses me off so much that people are so concerned about the worst character in the franchise when every other female character is just fine.

>Abducted and killed just for cheap, if not mean-spirited shock value in order to have a force bittersweet ending so you can be even more forced to buy more games.
>Her murderer ends up getting to fuck off to the afterlife with his fuckbuddy, while her husbando once again sacrifices himself for her, thus leaving her alone and miserable while every who did nothing get forced happy endings.
Well guess what Nomura, I'm never buying another Kingdom Hearts game ever again! And I hope you die in a fire too.

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This is only the end of act one, user. No one's story is over. You all need to fucking chill, we still have another 30 or so years of story coming

Except she said she wanted to do this in the last game cause she didn't want to be on the sidelines, she never said anything about being the most powerful warrior to ever wield a keyblade. She just wanted to be a fucking part of something that has nearly killed her and her friends and boyfriend for years now. At this point you're just nit picking. They explain it pretty clearly in the story that not only does she want to do this, but yeah it was gonna happen regardless of whether or not she wanted it to happen!

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Because Japan is fine with having the princess be the MacGuffin just like Sleeping Beauty.

>Plus she saved Sora from from going perma death, so, not useless.

Wrong

So? I wouldn't be surprised in the next saga Kairi gets raped by MoM, who ends up not receiving his proper comeuppance because "hurr I had good intentions lol". And Xehanort somehow comes back but is now a good guy for no reason at all other than Nomura's half-baked idea of "idealism".

Fuck Nomura. The series ended after KH2, and there's nothing you can do to change my mind.

I think she guided Sora and the other from death when Nomura decided to rip-off the pre-final episode of Digimon Adventure and climax of Persona 5.
Bullshit she and Sora actually did things, but the useless fuckos from the handheld games all get forced-as-fuck happy endings.

>after KH2
I'm pretty sure there were no sequels to Kingdom Hearts. Not. A. Single. One.

>grown up kairi in her old clothes

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>baseless assumptions
>doesn't know Xehanort's ending was actually set up in the BBS reports
>The series ended after KH2
Oh, you're one of those people

I like to compare KH2 to Return of The Jedi; has it's flaws, but still has some of the best moments in the series and a perfect conclusion to the story (The letter in the bottle was one of those "The adventure continues, you decide what happens next.)

Meanwhile KH3 is the fucking Last Jedi.

>doesn't know Xehanort's ending was actually set up in the BBS reports
Well maybe it'd be more believable if, you know, HE DIDN'T CAUSE EVERY FUCKING BAD THING TO HAPPEN IN THE SERIES AND MURDER KAIRI RIGHT IN FRONT OF SORA JUST TO PISS HIM OFF.

It's solely your fault that you didn't play a nine year old game, user.

its not bad

>doesn't know Xehanort's ending was actually set up in the BBS reports
Did you know Hitler originally wanted to be an artist?

Nomura seems pretty weird, wasn’t he surprised Sakurai wanted Cloud in Smash instead of a more recent Final Fantasy character?

Really, I wouldn't bother the whole "Xehanort wasn't really evil", if everytime he was on screen he wasn't eating babies and kicking puppies.

I did and I fucking hated it. Fights were completely broken and I must have spent days trying Terranort to the point I went "fuck it" and watched the endings on Youtube.

>not liking BBS for PSP
>he sucked so bad at it he couldn't even beat it
Jesus, how embarrassing for you

Cloud is pretty much the "face" of the JRPG genre.

We know they could summon their keyblades with ease, and they clearly fought with basic skills, but that's it. The hyperbolic time forest clearly offer them any enemies to grind up levels on.

>Liking BBS
>Worst story (aside from DDD)
>Worst trio
>Introduced the worst villain

>Xehanort only did awful shit because he was corrupted by darkness.
Bull-fucking-shit. Riku's entire character arc was him triumping over the darkness and even in the first game he managed to fight back more than 'nort did despite being a teen.

>thinks DDD's story is bad
>thinks BBS isn't the best trio
>thinks Xehanort was introduced in BBS
Yeah, I'm done talking to this retard.

All I can say is that as of KH3, I now know how Star Wars fans felt when they saw The Last Jedi.

That's the difference though, While Riku fought and eventually learned to accept and coexist/harness with his Darkness. Xehanort's attempts of using darkness o catch up with Eraqus and be just as good as him ended up backfiring horribly and turned him into a monster for his beliefs of balance. Then you add in the time travel aspect of his future self imprinting the result of what his pursuit of harnessing Darkness did to him unto his younger self and you realize that Xehanort was doomed from the start to be the bad guy.

What Im trying to get at is that its the reasons for why they turned to darkness that gave them the different results. Like two sides of the same coin, they are a reflection of what could've happened if the circumstances were different.

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Exactly: the thing is Riku actually had the willpower to fight against the darkness while 'nort was just a sleazy sack of shit and should've been punished severely for his actions.

I understand that Kairi wants to be by Sora's side and go on adventures, but Nomura can't be bothered to have her travel with him along Disney worlds. Nomura likes the idea of Kairi as Sora's love interests, but doesn't know to show it.

I chalk it up to Nomura trying to make a drama, tragedy in a kids game that ruins KH as a brand.

Disney wouldn't allow her to compete with their IP

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She's clearly consciously doing it.

I hate the time travel aspects of Kingdom Hearts. Pete and Merlin's methods in II were straight forward, but I can't accept the idea of Xehanort using time because of how poorly executed it was.

I get the impression that he's supposed to be a time mage, but he never really demonstrated the ability to use time at all.

Well I wouldn't say sleazy, I mean in the end, there is no technical afterlife for the KH verse (Final World is more like a purgatory before death, and the underworld from Olympus seems to act as more of a second Traverse Town when you start to think about it) and if you don't count Eraqus' spirit being there for him in his last moments; No one was sad to see Xehanort go.

I remember getting into an argument on Yea Forums a couple weeks back about Xehanort's "redemption" and I vehemently denied it was one. Lots of people, myself included would have loved to see Xehanort get fucking destroyed like a typical final boss should but that wouldn't solve anything really. In Xehanort's case, he needed to be convinced at the end of his life that what he was doing was wrong and that he made the wrong choices to get where he was. Destroying him wouldn't have solved anything for a number of reasons including the fact he could just show up and get revenge somewhere down the line (Remember, Vexen and Demyx and Xigbar are still part Xehanort). Point im getting at, Talking the guy down and handing the weapon he killed for to stop the big bang from happening again was the better idea.

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It's funny because she actually makes Sora more retarded. He goes to save her and uses his back rather than his fucking keyblade to do it

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Japan loves drama, tragedy, romance, and self sacrifice. The idea of Sora sacrificing himself to save Kairi is supposed to be noble.

Four people there have keyblades, including Kairi herself. Having fucking Goofy save them is retarded

Pretty sure he wasn't so much as corrupted, but embraced it because he thought he could control it as much as anyone who wielded light. Hence why he was able to return to the light so easily because he wasn't enslaved by it like Riku had been.

So literal magic that still follows the same rules (Sora being the exception for Timeless river) Xehanort uses in his method that ensures a stable time loop happens?

I mean is Stopza not supposed to be a spell that stops time? I guess the only paradox I see is how Xehanort taught his younger self how to manipulate time. Unless it was something he just learned to do when he was a young Keyblade wielder...

Japanese in general are pretty crap at showing a couple that get together partway into a story and then hang together for the rest of their adventures.

Pretty sure every country is pretty shit at those stories

>BBS
>Best trio
Well they dont have donal and goofy so youre wrong, and Terra and Ven are fucking retarded even for KH characters, so youre wrong again. literally the only good thing about that shitpile was Aqua but that doesnt make it worth playing.

No, its still fucking stupid and a slap in the face.
But thats all of KH's plot.

Not that user, but it's actually
>Mickey, Donald, and Goofy
>Sora, Riku, and Kiari
>Ventus, Aqua, and Terra
>Axel, Roxas, Xion
Personally I think Axel, Roxas, Xion are the best

It really was a mistake to have her fight Saix of all org members.

Not really. You can find some stories in Western fiction that have couples who get together during a series and grow throughout the rest of it.

And you can find a lot more that go for the cheap will they won't they drama or drop the ball hard when they do pair up. It seems to just be a weakness of poor writers

That's just every teen soap or telanovela out there.

Exactly

She'll always be useless. Nomura has already said that Sora is still going to be the protagonist of future games, so the set up that this time it was Kairi's turn to save him went out the window. Now al she'll do is wait for him to come back finally live happily ever after with him.

Literally everyone was useless but terra, Roxas, and sora Donald and goofy

Did you miss him throwing axel into a mountain even when axel used his blade to block

Why didn't Sora just block it with his keyblade?

The first game literally had princesses as MacGuffins.
Except Ariel, because Alice took her spot.

Yea, but that's far more common in Japanese fiction because of their awkward as fuck mentality about romance.

I don't usually watch a lot of japanese romance but from 0 to moment by moment,how bad we talking about?

Depends on the genre mostly. Shonen/action stuff in general can have the romance wait until the last fucking moment to have it become relevant, sometimes being the thing that saves the day because the protagonist admitting his feelings gives him a power boost or something silly like that. Slice of life stuff might pepper it here and there, but still suffer from the "will they/won't they" crap as the boy and girl blunder about more awkwardly than any teens in real life have ever been. It's not necessarily true of everything for all of the genres, but just more common than actual romances that feel organic and actually develop over the course of the story. Things like Inuyasha, which was largely romantic from the get go, took way too long to really let the couples just get their shit together and would often milk dramatic misunderstandings and whatnot to the point of being insufferable for some.

>Except she said she wanted to do this in the last game cause she didn't want to be on the sidelines, she never said anything about being the most powerful warrior to ever wield a keyblade.
You're resorting to hyperbole to prove your point. I, and I really think no one, wants Kairi to be an unstoppable goddess that can kill all the norts ever.

But the hard truth of the matter is that she killed more heartless in a cut scene BEFORE her training than after it.

>>doesn't know Xehanort's ending was actually set up in the BBS reports
Only in the Japanese ones.
And that's a fucking problem. Between this and UX being behind on translations they're penalizing western audiences.

Merlin lets you fight his furniture in the first game. Kairi and Axel couldn't even get that?

I know how Diablo fans feel now.
Any time I complain about how the mobage fucks up a bunch of square dickriders go "don't you have a phone"

Basically signs of affection/flat out saying "I love you" is considered rude or something in Japan, so they're expected to dance around it with subtle clues and the like
Which is probably one of the many reasons the elevens don't breed

>In Xehanort's case, he needed to be convinced at the end of his life that what he was doing was wrong and that he made the wrong choices to get where he was
Why?
>Destroying him wouldn't have solved anything for a number of reasons including the fact he could just show up and get revenge somewhere down the line (Remember, Vexen and Demyx and Xigbar are still part Xehanort).
Who would still need to be convinced separately because they have autonomy. Especially Xigbar since apparently he's an even bigger deal because fucking foretellers.

I swear I had these same goddamn arguments with people defending Mass Effect 3.

They might have, but furniture isn't exactly powerful and full of experience

KH3 is nothing compared to TLJ. It was more of a RotS. A passable conclusion that had a few great moments, but still felt like a kick in the nuts.

Nomura was the only person not surprised about the Cloud request. In fact, he was surprised he wanted Cloud rather than Terra, Bartz, and other SNES FF characters.

Again it all comes back to not being important to Nomura.
He was way more preoccupied with
1. Sucking up to Unchained Chi players
2. Baiting for the sequel
3. Spiteful ruminations on Final Fantasy vs 13 and how his version would've been better.
4. Showing us how Xehanort was really just a cute kid that lost his way and wasn't so bad and his intentions were good.
And a very distant fifth priority was payoff for the eight games of setup. Which includes Axel and Kairi using their keyblades with any real skill. They're literally just there to wait out the clock until their superior versions deus ex machine onto the scene and utterly trivialize the fight.

Sora broke all the furniture.

>while every who did nothing get forced happy endings.
Literally every other keyblade wielder besides Mickey went through worse shit than Kairi, and including Mickey they were also all more helpful

So we’re supposed to forgive the fact that in 2, she managed to getaway from capture by Axel yet the second Xemnas grabbed her by one arm, she doesn’t even so much as put up a fight against him despite wielding a keyblade. If she at least did something and failed it’d be one thing but she literally didn’t even resist

Seeing that first she and Sora were knocked away by a shockwave from berserker Saix, then she watches Xemnas show up and use a technique that Sora had to do a reaction with Riku just to survive in 2 on Lea. Just from the scene in question you could infer she was getting her ass kicked from the fight and probably was too tired to fight back. I mean that and the fact that Xemnas has Terra's physical strength since he's his corrupted nobody thanks to Xehanort.

Otherwise then you have Sora killing him in a matter that wouldn't amount to natural death, which would create another Heartless and Nobody that would have to be dealt with, all ending in Xehanort just coming back to life and doing this shit all over. Its a cycle that needed to be stopped man

Personally, I have a theory that Kairi actually has super-hax light powers but she used most of her energy saving Sora and the others, with Yen Sid viewing her as basically a walking light bomb to use in emergencies.

Just the fact how that FF style so absolutely clashes with Disney's gives me indigestion.

So you saying he agreed to let Kairi fight just to be a suicide bomber but with light?

Probably. Or as said before, she could go apeshit with light like Eraqus and decide all forms of darkness, regardless of if they're good or not, needs to fucking die so she can have the perfect place for she and Sora.
Basically an inverted version of Riku's character arc.

Knight Templar/Semi Yandere Kairi…. Nice

>Kairi why are you saying drip?

You know there are three new Princesses of Heart left to be shown, and I'm pretty sure at least two of them (Tiana and/or Pocahontas) are from movies not marketable enough for KH3 as opposed to stuff like Moana.

Maybe if Nomura stops being a paranoid fuck, while Sora and Riku fuck off in modern day Japan, Kairi can go to them? I mean at the very least Tiana is 99% a new POH. Moana will get her own expansive world in KH4 and Merida a shit.

Good. Fuck Kairi and fuck anyone that likes her

>Elsa is apparently a new POH
>Caused eternal winter due to mental problems
>This means that even princesses can go batshit insane when pushed far enough

So now there are nine?

The first visit to the Keyblade Graveyard is the perfect example of why I hated cutscenes in this game.
>villain appears
>every protagonist suddenly has the reaction time of a retard baby
>they just stand around not even reacting to anything going on
>these are supposed to be the people who have to defend this god-forsaken multiverse filled with shadow monsters that infest nearly every world we see
>these are the people who somehow won against Xehanort and his gang of "teleports behind you cutscene powers" villains
I feel like this game just destroyed the legitimacy of these characters. I don't need the protagonists to be badass all the time and never face any conflict or challenge in their lives, but seeing them do all sorts of crazy shit in-game but just stand around doing nothing in cutscenes is jarring as fuck.
Why does Sora slowly use his body to block Terranort's attack? Why not just attack the fucker or use his Keyblade to block it instead?
Why does Aqua use her body to protect Ventus from Vanitas' fire spell? She could have use her Keyblade which she was holding the whole time, or her barrier which is one of her main moves she starts out with in BBS. I just don't get why this stupid shit constantly has to happen.

HELP ME SORA

Nine? Wtf? How did you even get that?

-Elsa
-Anna
-Punzy
-Kairi

That leaves three left that are probably:
-Tiana/Pocahontas
-Moana
-Merida

Ansem, Seeker of Bees
>KINGDOM HEARTS!
>could you please give me some bees? i was a good boy.

Alice
Snow White
Jasmine
Belle
Cinderella
Sleeping Beauty
Pinocchio
Kairi
And Elsa makes nine.

None of the previous seven are counted in the new seven

So you're saying there are 15 princesses?

No, there's just a weak and pointless justification to include Frozen and Tangled in the world list, which does not hide the fact that holy shit are those levels a waste of time.

>Otherwise then you have Sora killing him in a matter that wouldn't amount to natural death, which would create another Heartless and Nobody that would have to be dealt with
That is literally the opposite of how it works. A keyblade can kill without creating a heartless. That's why they need it in the first game.

No, the previous princesses are no longer important
Blame Disney for that, Nomura was very open about Frozen getting the most restrictions

You want to know something? Sora did not have formal training in KH1 yet he was amazing, Kairi not only had formal training, but a lot more time than sora did. Kairi had so much more time to prep up than Sora did, we did not expect her to be amazing, but we did expect her to contribute more than she did and actually feel like a character. All of the training she did was actually pointless a waste of time, and most importantly a missed opportunity to actually develop her character.

So no it is absolutely not a realism thing, its just bad writing and poor use of their characters.

>84130▶
she's a woman

Stop saying "So you're saying"!

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You forgot best boy.

Best spy.

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Then why are Xion and Aqua fine?

Anybody else think it's weird that Mandy Moore has voiced two different characters in Kingdom Hearts?

So they don't have pure light hearts anymore? Did they go goth or something?
That's dumb, Ariel isn't one of the original princesses in the list and she's a princess, plus Alice isn't a princess at all, if you want to include worlds with princesses you don't need to make them part of the original lore, you can just have their worlds be a thing, they didn't make Jane or Sally princesses, and most of the princesses didn't have their worlds as levels in the first game, and TRON definitely doesn't have a princess.
And Xemnas still has a voice that came from nowhere, so unless the idea was that his voice LITERALLY came from NOWHERE because his element is nothingness/emptiness/void, which is really dumb, there's no explanation for why he has a voice that no other Xehanort has, since Ansem's voice was retconned from Billy Zane in English to Richard Epcar and was always the same as Terranort's voice in Japanese and both languages have Xemnas voiced by somebody who didn't voice anybody else involved in the convoluted web of Norts.
That's not

-David Bowie.
Sorry, I got cut off.

Xemnas is shown to be more muscular than Axel due to being Terra's Nobody, so he's strong enough to maintain his grip on Kairi's arm. Plus, he can conjure lasers and energy blasts to thru his hands to shock Kairi if she resists.

Aqua isn't.
Xion is half Sora.

Unless we get DLC showing her and Axel fighting Data copies of the Org XIII, it is realism that she would get her ass kicked by people who have years of experience against her.

I mean she would have gotten rocked by any of the Org members except maybe Luxord

Aqua is a good magic user, but lacks the proper offense and defense to handle the Osaka team's autistic programing.

Xion only looks female to some people, for some reason.
And Xigbar saw her as Ventus, so when Roxas and Xion are both in his field of vision it's probably at least slightly confusing. Just like everything in Kingdom Hearts.
The key words weren't "slightly confusing" they were "at least"

I mean, technically Elsa's a queen, but if Alice gets to be a Princess, I guess Elsa counts too.

>liking that thing

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>Xion only looks female to some people, for some reason.
That was the case in 358/2, but I think she's locked into one face now.

>Demyx
>Best boy

That's not Luxord.

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Princess of Heart is pretty much just a title, Kairi's not a princess, just some random girl who lived in Radiant Garden.

Xion looks female because she's fueled by people's autistic desires to have a character who looks like Kairi, but has Sora's way with Keyblades.

>Data Org becomes canon
>Kairi and Axel continue to train to git gud as keyblade wielders for the next saga by practicing on them

That would be pretty cool actually

Speaking of which, why is it /2 and not *2?

Better than doing nothing. Even fucking Belle from Beauty and the Beast wasn't having Xaldin's shit and Xaldin is canonically one of the strongest of the old org members

Because she is a grill.

Has he ever used his time powers for anything other than adding a time limit to his fights?
Also, how many people WEREN'T surprised by how his name was pronounced?

Because you experience the 358 days as 2 people, rather than twice.
It looks like a retarded title, and it kind of is, but it's not nonsense.

Better, yet, have Aqua train Kairi so they both have something to do and we can get whatever the female version of /ss/ is.

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Well it doesn't make complete sense either.
You mean the lesbian version?
Unless you're saying Aqua was a man this whole time.

No, Aqua doesn't know how to fucking block

Actually now that I think about it, they all seem to forget to fucking block when moving to defend someone and instead to decide to tank it full force

A Birth by Sleep/Days style game where you play as everyone but Sora for a sequel would be pretty fucking rad, could even be about how they're all scrambling to get a trace on where the hell Sora has vanished to before whatever plot shenanigans send Riku to Shinjuku.

Y'know, while true regarding Kairi, I did find it weird that they kinda treated Axel like he barely knew how to fight. Sure he only just got a keyblade, but it's not like he wasn't already really strong. Is wielding a keyblade really that much harder than his old fighting style? Or did he lose all of his fire powers when he stopped being a nobody.

>everyone
Ohhhhhhhhh noooooooooooo...
youtube.com/watch?v=zO1sB0sEROU

I assumed it was because

A.He shifted to Keyblade rather than using chakrams like he was used to. He was basically respeccing from level 1 in a new class

B. The ones he got into direct combat with were Terranort who is arguably the strongest of the org members and was fucking everyone up, Xemnas who is one of the strongest, and Berserker Saix who he may have had hold ups on fighting all out

All of the previous princesses of heart, save Kairi, are no longer princesses of heart. They pased on those titles to 6 new ones, 3 of which we saw in KH3 and 3 left to be revealed.

Fair, it's not like Axel ever stood a chance against Xemnas even using his chakrams.

I know, Luke-Sord makes no sense, they use Lux for god's sake in KHuX and that's pronounced Lucks... or at least I thought it was.

Playing through UX now and while it's mostly trash and genuine gacha hell, it actually made me realise that a proper game set in that era where you can, say, make your own custom keyblade wielder, choosing from a handful of different fighting styles, and go on co-op multiplayer missions could be really fun. Kinda like a Days mission mode that isn't horribly broken.

Xion is just "What if Kairi was competent and interesting"

I wouldn't be surprised if Nomura remakes that game into some kind of single-player affair so the people who skipped it can catch up on the whole thing. Of course, the dingbat should have just done that with Back Cover from the get go as some people speculated before realizing that was just side-story to the mobile title.

Literally the only justification I can think of is the Japanese syllable system where u is always u, but there are names that don't follow that rule all over the place, so for all we know his name might have just been designed to fuck with people from the start.
So it's a good concept weighed down by a shit system/design? Is that what you're saying?

Pretty sure his name was previously said the right way (with the Lux sounding like Lucks), but then for whatever in that one scene, Sora says it almost like he's saying the last part of Lelouch's name (the Louch part)

KH3 was pretty much the MGS4 of the series. Not exactly a terrible game, but just paying off for the years of hype, and almost as many dumb explanations and contrivances as the latter.

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Nomura is absolutely a shut-in, he's even had his cats stand-in for him in videos. He has no family and limited non-mandatory social interaction. That man exists only to work.

I don't remember it ever being said out loud before 3.
But the thing is, Metal Gear tends to follow its own rules.

Did MGS4 also spend huge chunks of its time baiting for a sequel while complaining about the games Kojima didn't get to do?

Not like KH betrayed any of its rules, it's just always been very simple ones like "Light can save pretty much everyone, and darkness is evil nasty incomprehensible"
MGS4 and 5 really dropped the ball by explaining away things with nanomachines and parasites (which were just "organic nanomachines for that game). Hell, didn't help that one of the most popular female characters in that series, Meryl, ultimately ended up being largely useless and handed a crappy epilogue that disappointed many.

Might not have baited for a sequel, but it was pretty clear that Kojima wasn't giving it his all. The man didn't even to be the director until a bunch of cunt fans sent him death threats like some liberal pussies.

>worlds that still just retell the movie's story
>no Moana
>no hilariously stupid Star Wars world with a lightsaber duel against Darth Vader
>I'm actually a misguided good guy ending for Xehanort
>Xigbar is Luxu
>box is still closed
>characters job and you play as Sora instead of the other characters for their fights etc etc

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I'm one of the few people who didn't have a big problem with nanomachines. They didn't get rid of all the supernatural elements, and during the previous games I thought they could do more with the nanomachines, because I like the idea.

>Not like KH betrayed any of its rules, it's just always been very simple ones like "Light can save pretty much everyone, and darkness is evil nasty incomprehensible"
You didn't read the secret reports in their original japanese so you wouldn't know this like the real fans but there's no such thing as darkness it's just misunderstood light.

It really only Vamp's explanation with nanites that was stupid.
>He's got cancer, so the nanos make him immortal or something
I mean, maybe if they had at least explained it with something like "The nanomachines take his cancer cells and make them into healthy, regenerating cells", that might have helped, but as it was, it just felt like a crappy way to handwave why he had the power to survive bullets to the head, and even then it doesn't quite explain how he did other things like run on water.
But goddamn, those parasites in MGS5 sounded retarded as hell, especially because it was apparently why the Cobras in Snake Eater had powers.

Because Olette is best girl

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oKaY, I bElIeVe YoU

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>axel gets thrown into a mountain
>goofy blocks it perfectly and launches terranort like 10 feet in the air
HOYLE

Yeah, there are better girls in the series.

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That's the power of shields and blocking

Okay yeah, I hadn't thought about the nanomachines having to cover him running on water.
The only weird part to me before about Vamps nanos is if they were so good why didn't any of the major villains give themselves an immortality injection?

but it's really all just friendship. Except when you find out it's really all just hearts.

When did you realize Olette is more competent than Kairi?

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>Not exactly a terrible game

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Because they probably didn't have cancer like he and Naomi did, so they couldn't get haxor eternal life through the nachos. Beyond that, the idea of the nanomachines being used to keep Big Boss comatose and controlling soldiers wasn't that bad a concept, given the set up in the game's first act. But then Kojima just went full retard with other things, and then really shat the bed with Phantom Pain. Granted, it's hard to say how much of that was him not being able to take more time to refine the story due to Konami dogging him during development, and how much was just him clearly not possessing the writing skills to make a more comprehensible plot.

youtube.com/watch?v=SSDFZi6zqOc
Is he in the right?

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>gee, I wonder who's behind this post

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>Two past protagonists are fully capable of beating a third rate antagonist
I'd honestly be pretty pissed if Roxas couldn't solo Saix alone.

Imagine cute and wholesome waifus in a KH TV show.

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>a woman is weak
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SEXISM NOMURA IM ABOUT TO SUE JAPAN FOR YOUR IGNORANCE THIS IS UNACCEPTALBE HOW DARE YOU DEMEAN WOMEN LIKE THIS I CANT EVEN TYPE THIS WITHOUT SHAKING IM GOING TO CRY AND HIDE IN MY CLOSET NOW FUCK YOU NOMURA

>3 replies damage control within 30 seconds of each other

The absolute state of kh3 copers

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I've noticed that Kingdom Hearts 3 is so easy that nobody asks for strategy on how to beat it. We're the other games like this?

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Still sucks they canned that proposed KH cartoon
>they would have reused some background art from the movies each world was based on
>Sora and friends would have had their appearances styled to match that of the characters of each movie/world

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Cringe

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Fuck off barry

>s-s-s-s-s-samefag!
Keep crying, Barrykun.

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Post more cute KH girls art

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That was dumb, but Goofy blocking and Donald's zettaflare was the tightest shit ever.

What?

If the only prerequisite for being an immortal superbeing was having cancer, I'm sure Liquid, or Ocelot, or Solidus, or one of Zero's caretakers could have achieved success with enough time outside without sunscreen, unless they wanted to speed the process up with some stronger radiation.

>this plan actually worked

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This looks like she's taking him to a van filled with rock CDs.

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Olette and Namine' are the only girls in KH3 that didn't job in some shape of form.

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Seriously though man, if all you want is useless party members, outside of that brief part you spend the entire rest of the game with "on second thought don't bother healing me, I got it" Donald, and "oh your triangle command is up. Neat, I guess" Goofy.
You'd think this franchise would be your absolute favorite.

Ansem clearly didn't care much anymore. It was kind of funny just how fed up he was with all this nonsense and actually considered face turning until it turned out like a third of the this true org betrayed them already. At that point he just went "fuck it" and rode the trainwreck to the end

Well, I'm just going off from the best logical answer I can build from how Naomi's explanation about Vamp and her being sick and needing the nanonmachines might have worked if given more explanation than "we're sick and practically dead, but not because of the nanomachines"
It very well might just be as Armstrong would say "Nanomachines, son!"

People actually enjoy this?.

Kairi became useless when she lost her original design and slut outfit.

Yes

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Fuck off barry

>going to a cafe to get literally murdered by your waitress

Come on, that was pretty fucking badass to see DONALD FUCKING DUCK blast one of the villains like it was a scene out of Dragon Ball Z when one of the weaker characters get a chance to do something cool to the big bad.

Nah, she'd probably just talk shit about your taste in drinks/foods, spill stuff on you "by accident", and make sure you got stuck with a huge bill.

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>Not like KH betrayed any of its rules,
>In the first game, was it clear that the Heartless were hearts engulfed in darkness?
>How does Sora get his normal form after becoming a heartless without Roxas being destroyed?
>Remember how Organization XIII's goal was to get hearts? Well it turns out they could grow new ones all along.
>Sora is the only one who can wield THE keyblade. (not even counting the thing about Riku being originally meant for it but caught by darkness before he got it, this is broken when Mickey shows up at the end)
>Oh, this Ansem isn't actually Ansem, he was a Heartless that kept a human form and sentience.
>In this castle you need to use cards to attack.
>Time travel has these rules, but don't worry we can just forget about them when the plot says so.
>light is good and dark is bad, except darkness can be used for good, but nevermind it's teerrible, but now these Pokemon things are creatures of darkness and there are good ones, and now Riku can use darkness without worrying about losing control and becoming evil and/or possessed.
Yeah, never betrays its rules.
MGS retcons things, but at least the new rules that replace the old ones don't break themselves automatically.
The first game was the only one that actually stuck with its rules, and later games made changes that break themselves, for example, 2's changed definition of heartless and addition of the concept of a nobody creates a rule that is retroactively broken in the first game when Sora stabs himself, giving himself a nobody while Kairi returns him to his normal form, and with Namine being created even though Kairi's body was right there and didn't vanish or disappear, so it doesn't even take another game to fuck with the rules, it does the opposite by fucking up itself and a previous game. When you take all the retcons into consideration with Metal Gear, the plot, while complicated and not always very smart, makes internal sense when you apply everything.

Sora already has Donald following him around most of the time.

>How does Sora get his normal form after becoming a heartless without Roxas being destroyed?
How was that a rule break? Kairi restored him, but it was established that he wasn't properly restored, hence why Ansem the Wise had to capture Roxas in order to recomplete Sora. And speaking of, Ansem the Wise not being Ansem Seeker of Darkness is not a rule break either.

What does that have to do with a bitchy girl being rude to you in a restaurant?

Sora is stuck with a big bill because Donald is with him, he doesn't need to have a bitchy waitress for that part.

I couldn't crack an egg for shit in the Bistro mini game. Even with 2 Gourmet rings on.

>tfw can't crack an egg for shit but can flambe like a champ

>bragging about beating the second easiest of 4 cooking minigames

All of the cooking games were pretty easy, just annoyingly precise with how you had to get excellence in them. Same goes for the notgame&watch games, only really challenging one of that would be the track and field game because you had to pretty much hold the controller upside-down to mash the triangle and square buttons when it should have fucking been triangle and x as a more sensible alternation.

Roxas and BBS trio got their own game

What does KH have to do with Yea Forums?

She held her own against Xion and Saix long enough for Sora to show up.

youtube.com/watch?v=yqPLswCvU_Q

Some interesting stuff about Frozen and working with the movie team behind Frozen from Yea Forums.

>Disney provided the original polygon shapes of characters from its properties, with guidelines for how more detail was to be placed on top. Square Enix designers then added hair, clothing materials and more. Essentially, for characters like Frozen’s Elsa, there’s a tiny piece of the original digital model in your game, hidden under layers of added pixel-paint.

>Disney was very concerned with what Elsa's hair looked like”, says Yamazaki. “Of course she's got this beautiful golden-white hair that's always flowing and beautiful, and when we got the data, her hair was just sticking straight backwards.”

>“So we used animation initially to bring it forward, but no matter how we did that it didn't quite look right, it always kind of looked a little weird, and Disney wasn't happy with that. Ultimately, what we had to do, we told them, 'with the data you guys gave us, and what we're working with, we can't make it look any better than this'.

>“What we ended up doing was remaking the hair, not from the model they gave to us. It was the one part that was like, 'oh this doesn't make sense, we're not supposed to be changing anything, but we have to change it to make it looks like it looks in the movie itself'."

Also pic related is from the movie Frozen where they had a technical error with hair clipping.
You can see here the game actually fixed that error recreating the scene.
youtu.be/0Zahz4iGaZw?t=182

ign.com/articles/2019/02/11/kingdom-hearts-3-the-challenges-and-rewards-of-working-with-disney

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Not too surprising. Given the massive leaps in tech, I can imagine if more game tie-ins were being down these days, especially for Disney's stuff, they'd be able to just rip and dump the characters from the films in many cases with whatever tweaks needed if the engine wasn't 100% capable of accepting the data.

>There were some teams that were like, ‘Ooh, if you make a new story, you're going to kind of ruin the world that we created,’ whereas there were teams, like Toy Story, who said to us, ‘Well, we can't have it in that world, but if you want to make a new story, that's fine.’”
How fucking pretentious did they have to be to say that?

>The solution became to place the plotline between Toy Story movies (specifically 2 and 3), satisfying Nomura’s vision, Pixar’s restrictions and creating a strange extra consequence: “I said, ‘Okay, so is it fair to assume that Woody and Buzz, and friends, remember Sora and everybody coming? Is it part of the story now?’ and they were like, ‘yeah,’ and I was kind of like, ‘Oh! Okay.’”
Kingdom Hearts 3 is canon to Toy Story movies.

Maybe the Disney stuff?

The first statement? Probably Disney not wanting KH stuff to get in the way of their precious Frozen and Tangled properties, even though only the most autistic of fans would make the assumption that KH's plot was actually meant to tie into the movies it featured.

Huh, I had kind of figured it was between the first 2 movies, since they didn't mention Jesse or anything about the second. Wonder how that'll work since if they ever return to Woody and the gang, it'd either have to be just before TS3 again, or shortly after and have Woody break the news about Andy's departure.

Reading the article sounds like Toy Story were far more strict but much more constructive and competent making a much better world than the various Disney teams.

Also small children who don't really get the difference between all this bullshit. So their main target demographic

Seems weird that any of them would worry about the stories. It's not like KH is actually canon to Aladdin, Alice in Wonderland, and so on. If that were the case, then clearly the prince from Sleeping Beauty did a shit job at killing Maleficent.

>Be Kairi
>Spend 2 or so months training to manifest a keyblade properly, at most some light sparring afterwards
>Be sent up against 13 time-traveling superpowered freaks
>You're not able to do much against them

>Be Sora
>Spend most of your childhood beating the shit out of your friends on Destiny Island
>Be given a super-powerful weapon, use it to beat the shit out of a bunch of fucking demons that range from the size of a small child that can scratch real good to the size of interstellar battlecruisers that can throw buildings at you
>Get put up against several of the aforementioned freaks, both in real life and simulations, and beat the shit out of them
>Have a total of four hearts inside of you at one point in time, surely that plays some factor in everything
>Also, you're basically keyblade jesus

You're arguing that someone that had a few months of training that never saw real combat is useless while someone that had no formal training but years of combat experience isn't. Kairi might have learned how to use a keyblade, but that doesn't mean that she learned how to actually fight with it. Unless Yensid brought some heartless for her to fight against into the hyperbolic time chamber that she sent Axel and Kairi to, all she had was some light experience sparring at most. That's what Sora had when he was a literal child. She's at child Sora's level at best. How is that not realistic?

yeah the dude must have had a really protective life.

it's because she cant look too competent and is a lover is power type. which means all she has to do is like someone and she makes things all better. She actually doesnt really have any physical applications other than the maiden in distress.

She is a character. Don't b ethat user and try to make it sounds like KH has more than just shounen-tier writing.