Why is everybody pretending she's the first female in the MCU?

Everyone's going insane and forgetting all of the other female heroes in the MCU. Is this peak willful ignorance?

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You have to be super ignorant to be a feminist these days. this is just another sign of them having nothing to fight for, so they make shit up.

Because they've been paid to sing praises for the movie and its really hard to have anything good to say about it

>Shilling has to make sense
Dude, you're above all this shit

Scarlet Witch started as a villain, Black Widow started as an Assassin
If anything, they are anti-heroes cajoled into complex roles that straddle defending the world and protecting their beliefs

Captain Marvel is the first fullblown Hero with their own movie series who is a female

But DC did it first so who gives a shit about firsts

>Scarlet Witch started as a villain, Black Widow started as an Assassin
I mean, you could say the same for Hawkeye, and pretty much ALL of the Thunderbolts and a number of other..oh wait, you're talking moviefaggotry.
Who cares? They're moviefags, they're retarded.

No, because almost every female hero movie tend to be either cheesy or just meh. At least this movie will have a character that's taken seriously

user she starts out as a brainwashed Kree super weapon expected to commit genocide to the entire Skrull race.

>Captain Marvel is the first fullblown Hero with their own movie series who is a female
Not in this film, she's part of the Space Fascist crew until she isn't anymore.

All this MARVEL BROKE NEW GROUND AND INVENTED FEMALE ACTION HEROES!!! hoopla feels really off when Alita came out like a couple weeks before

Because these sjw, extreme left faggots are all about erasure. They scream you down with accusations of erasure of a minority or two and then go about erasing the acts of others to reinforce their own narrative.

Here is another prime example. Idiots claiming that super always being a white guy is a problem completely ignorant of the fact there was a Japanese dude playing super man, live action mind you, in a 90s TV show. Or ignoring the black superman of some alternate reality.
www.cbr.com/should-superman-be-white/amp/

After tur dude from the 90s show called them out on it they had to backpedaled and rewrite part of the article

Like it's obvious they're just leaving off the "first female solo lead movie" part but if I was Scarlet Johansson I'd be pissed. Like maybe Scarlet doesn't want a solo movie or doesn't care in the grand scheme of things but feels like at the least it's a big paycheck and publicity tour Brie's getting over her.

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Why the fuck do you give a shit. Why are you so invested in this movie? I'm gonna watch it with my friends and even I don't waste a minute on trailers or shit outside of Yea Forums which is usually /pol/ spam

Agent Carter

Because it's a marketing move, and they actually don't really lied to their audience. There was a movies about female superheroes, but they weren't a part of current MCU. And there was female supeheoes in their MCU movies but there wasn't a solo movie for female superhero.

When will marvel give free tickets for boys to see Captain America movies

>the fucking british police's twitter account doesnt phrase some pedantic nerd trivial about a movie series they've never seen right
>WHAT THE UCK IS THS FEMINIST CONSPIRACY TRYING TO BRAINWASH ME INTO FORGETTING BLACK WIDOW EXISTS REEEEEE
*snap* another one for my "incels get unreasonably mad about captain marvel" compilation to post after it breaks a billion and Yea Forums pretends no one was ever outraged about it

And Agent Carter? Wasp? Lady Sif?

>When you headlined literally the last Marvel movie, but no one remembers

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Lol Carol is a brainwashed warmonger to start in her movie you fucking retard

yawn

She's the first titular female hero in the movies, you autists

No she isn't. Even in the MCU she's the second one after Wasp, and before that there was Catwoman and Wonder Woman from DC.

Who are you talking to? You post must be answering OP-pic post on Twitter.

Tweeting at the met with a negative opinion on captain marvel will get you arrested for thought crime.

Because Captain Marvel is the movie that Leftists are propping up as the icon of their culture war. I'd just like all of you to take a moment and realize that 10 years of buildup and billions of dollars will all accumulate to Leftist propaganda. Thanos is going to be defeated by a rabid Feminist in End game, and critics are going to hail it as a historic moment, which will completely change the entire industry. 10 fucking years of waiting utterly ruined by Leftist subversion. God help us if Trump loses in 2020, or worse yet a female actually beats him.

Leftists are fucking cancer and need to lose this culture war.

Imagine being ST, SW or Dr. Who fan. They have already experienced it.

It's set in the 90's. So they are running with this 1st female hero in the MCU headline. It's dishonest, but accurate in universe.

Except for the original Wasp that existed in the 50's.

Even then you had Carter leading SHIELD and cameoing in Antman, and the original Wasp with Hank doing superhero shit during the cold war

It's just annoying, why can't they just say "Kickass action movie with Brie Larson" and be done with it?

The fantasy of being a revolutionary is very important to this ideology. For another example see how Lando hasn't been even mentioned in the Star Wars sequel movies because they'd have to admit there was long ago a character in a Star Wars movie played by a black actor.

They have to pretend their actions are new, bold, exciting instead of warmed-over garbage from the '60s which itself is congealed nonsense from the 1850s.

WW dresses like a slut

>first female hero in the Marvel Universe

BUT SHE FUCKING ISNT.

>literally the last Marvel movie
the Last Marvel Film was the BEST CBM of ALL TIME (thus Far), Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse.

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I am 99% sure they mean in chronological terms in-universe. Although that would mean they're forgetting about the original Wasp.

And who the fuck are the X-Men? How do you disregard every female member?

So it really is gonna be Dragon Ball?

It's like a sprinter running a race and staying in first place all the way, then just before the finish line he pops a squat and strains out a turd while his competitors rush past him.

Elektra for marvel as well.

Takes place in the nineties, before all the others. Also, first female hero that gets a solo outing.

Supergirl was released in 1984. It wasn't good, but it got there first and Slater was respectable in the lead despite the movie around her. Had a female villain too.

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MCU is fucking hot garbage and yes I just clicked the thread to hate fuck you all

Fucking this, are you expecting them to be super accurate in an already long tweet? And who the fuck cares about Elektra in 2019 seriously. That movie was basically direct to video (also not a hero btw).

>Debut as a lead female hero
>Gets dusted in the same movie
Did they just hate Wasp?

>Takes place in the nineties, before all the others

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>Try to invoke my long buried memories of the pile of shit that is Elektra

Fuck you, nigger

>capeshit
>culture

>10 years, 20 movies later
>They finally make a female led movie to catch up
>This is cause for celebration
Embarassing

>leftists
Centrists, dipshit. Leftist don't give a shit. Stop being retarded.

It's the first MCU movie where a woman is the lead character, stop pretending you don't get that, please.
I don't think she'd be pissed by the movie being called "the first", because like I just say, it is, but She might be pissed her solo movie kept being moved along.
Wasp is co-starring with Ant man.

saying ant and the Waps is a Wasp lead movie is like saying Civil Wars is an Iron Man lead movie. You know this off and disingenuous. Being a lead and being a co-lead isn't the same thing.

I guess black shouldn't have celebrated tthe end of sgreagation, even if it was about damn time.

It's their own fault they didn't make a female led movie before, I'm not gonna applaud them for being sexist

They aren't forgetting. They just never read any comic books nor did they see any other movies. They just ignorant.

People can still be happy it finally happened.

>all of the other female heroes
You mean female sidekicks.

>first female hero in the Marvel Universe
Did Janet get retconned while she was snapped?

Do shows count? Because Jessica Jones as much as I hate her show should count too.

See >It's the first MCU movie where a woman is the lead character, stop pretending you don't get that, please.

>It's the first MCU movie where a woman is the lead character
It's not even that. Ant-Man & the Wasp literally just fucking happened.

No, they don't. it's about it being the first mcu MOVIE where the solo lead is female.

>I guess black shouldn't have celebrated tthe end of sgreagation, even if it was about damn time.
Yes because representation in film is on the same level of importance as removal of segregation. I mean I guess your right since blacks and women had been represented in film long before segregation ended.

Also stop posting on Yea Forums if you're literally going to give everyone (you)s you fucking faggot.

>Yes because representation in film is on the same level of importance
Whether or not the level of importance is the same is of no impact to the point I made. Try again.

This is 4channel.

>I mean, you could say the same for Hawkeye
Nobody is hailing Hawkeye as the stand out hero for the avengers user

She starts out in the US military HOOOAAH GOD BLESS AMERICA They don't have their own movies

not really dude

I don't think X-MEN counted as MCU just because it was mostly a Fox thing
But even then, they all don't have their own movie

>No, they don't. it's about it being the first mcu MOVIE where the solo lead is female.
What an arbitrary accomplishment.

First MCU movie with an actual female lead ? No, it's not arbitrary.

Good to know you'd be okay with women not having the right to vote as long as they were represented at the movies. After all
>whether or not the level of importance is the same is of no impact

Thats not what they said, you fucking stoolie

>Good to know you'd be okay with women not having the right to vote as long as they were represented at the movies
Nothing of what I said can lead you to the conclusion I think that.
>>whether or not the level of importance is the same is of no impact
*to the point I made. Way of you to cut that. Try to actually come back with an actual argument.

But that's what they meant and only a moron or someone disingenuous would not get it.

>you're A
>but I've actually meant that you're AB that's C with D and E

It seems they addressed your concerns, guys

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It's almost as if context matter in the understanding of a sentence.

Mind blown.

I thought the MCU was earth-19 999.

Context is not a list of exceptions and clarifications, you fucking shill.

can we stop pretending "first female to" shit is worth discussing and isnt just forced attempts at attention?

Because people have selective ignorance. Just as with how people were happy that Black Panther was the first black superhero put on film, without actually looking into it. Fuck, BLADE was more early than BP!

Which one is older, Blade or Spawn?

>Context is not a list of exceptions and clarifications
It isn't just that, but it can actually provide some. that's literally how context work. So stop acting like you are proud to act like a moron.

It often is not. Like an other user pointed out, it took more than 10 years for them to finally do that, it was about time.

Re-read the sentence

>Because people have selective ignorance
Not in this case see >It's the first MCU movie where a woman is the lead character, stop pretending you don't get that, please.

>It often is not
Dude give me a fucking break. I'll cut this some slack because despite what they originally said being wrong, a Marvel female solo lead apparently hasn't happened before, but most of the time it's just a bunch of stupid attention shit, it also matters how they word it and how they try to phrase it like its the next coming of god that it happened.

>but most of the time it's just a bunch of stupid attention shit,
There is nothing wrong with claiming "I have finally do it". Only a killjoy would get grumpy about it.

>a killjoy
Do you faggots have to throw this kind of rebuttal around every single time no matter what the case? No fun this, killjoy that. Maybe I'm just tired of constantly hearing a fuss over women do something? It's especially in how they word it, its pretentious as shit most of the time and they pick their words carefully that makes it seem like it's supposed to be obnoxious.

>not really

>theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/12/wonder-woman-un-ambassador-gender-equality
>The UN has dropped the superhero Wonder Woman as an ambassador for empowering girls and women after a brief stint that drew widespread criticism.

>The campaign around the comic book character, who turned 75 this autumn, lasted for less than two months. Among its key aims were challenging female stereotypes and fighting discrimination and violence against women and girls.

>But the appointment prompted an angry backlash from some quarters. More than 44,000 people signed a petition that claimed to have been started by “concerned United Nations staff members” which called on the UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, to appoint a non-fictional woman to the role.

>“It is alarming that the United Nations would consider using a character with an overtly sexualised image at a time when the headline news in United States and the world is the objectification of women and girls,” the petition’s authors wrote.

>Her scanty clothing – “a shimmery, thigh-baring bodysuit with an American flag motif and knee-high boots” – meant that deploying her as a role model for the UN was culturally insensitive in many parts of the world, the petition added.

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>is like saying Civil Wars is an Iron Man lead movie

um...it is.

Nice definitional retreat, shilly. With enough "buts" in mind you can interpret any simple sentence in any way. Verbal context influences the way an expression is understood not through some exceptions and retreats but through explaining the premises, environment. So context in this tweet is IGNORED. And you dare to say it matters.

they will just jump into the next female superhero movie

Holy fuck this movie is shaking the alt right to it's core. Fucking hilarious how hysterical the incels are over a female character. Can't wait for this to break 2 billion and /pol/ to an hero over a super hero

>marketers with agenda rewriting history to sell the new products and not the old one
and water is wet

You forgot "fragile". Missed the brief?

>Among its key aims were challenging female stereotypes and fighting discrimination and violence against women and girls.
What about violence against men? "challenging female stereotypes"? Jesus

So who was the first Solo film Female Marvel Hero

It's not. it's a co-lead. you know it''s not the same.

>Nice definitional retreat
There was none.
>With enough "buts" in mind you can interpret any simple sentence in any way.
There was zero "buts". All there is to account for is the context.
> So context in this tweet is IGNORED. And you dare to say it matters.
No, the contect is not ignored in this tweet, try again.

Everyone with two functional neurone exactly know what it means and only dishonesty allow for you to ignore it.

>rewriting history
There was no rewriting, see >It's the first MCU movie where a woman is the lead character, stop pretending you don't get that, please.

Outside of the MCU ? Elektra, if I am not mistaken. For the MCU, Captain Marvel is the first.

>there was no rewitting
>ignore reality and it works
epic

Jesus Christ stop referencing yourself for damage control you twat.

You lost, get the fuck over it.

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Wrong, Captain Marvel is effectively the MCU female lead movie. Acknowledging reality, aka, contaxt, is precisely what allow you to understand this is what they are talking about.
I'll stop when people will stop being wrong.

>for damage control
Also, there is zero damage control. Not my fault you are unable to get an obvious understanding of a sentence and pretending it's saying what it is clearly not saying.

> first female hero in the Marvel universe

get out of my hobby, you filth normies!

They meant, first MCU movie with a female lead.

Double the replies, double the damage control.

You know you can actually get everything you feel out in one response like a normal person right?

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>double the damage control.
Still no damage cotnrol. the only damage control is you pretending you didn't immediately understood what they were saying.

>You know you can actually get everything you feel out in one response like a normal person right?
Or I can chose not to>You lost, get the fuck over it.
Funny how say I lost when no one has been able to provide a single valid counter argument.

>marketers
It's the fucking police
Dude you're denser than uranium, everyone understands the context of the tweet yet somehow you have to get into this stupid, NDT-level minutiae about how this movie and that other movie "were first" as if regular people weren't aware they mean MCU.

>You lost, get the fuck over it.

>people make a point of not understanding what was very obvious to get
>some point it out that they are very obviously ni-picking on something they know what the article is actually talking about
>y...you lost
sure

Great. Now I want chicken and biscuits. Thanks a lot.

> There was none.
There was one about definition of context.
> There was zero "buts". All there is to account for is the context.
There were three "buts" which ignored the context: but not all Marvel movies, but not ones without own big films, but not titular one.
> No, the contect is not ignored in this tweet, try again.
As you can see, shilly, your denial has no substance. You just calling black white.

Jesus Christ I think you need to see a proctologist for the level of butthurt you're experiencing.

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> everyone
Like three different anons wiped the floor with you in past 10 posts already. Your bonus depends on denying reality or something?

>There was one about definition of context.
Nope, there still wasn't.
>There were three "buts"
There was no "buts" at all.
> but not all Marvel movies, but not ones without own big films, but not titular one.
Those are not buts, those are implied and obvious pats the context clearly imply.
>As you can see, shilly, your denial has no substance. You just calling black white.
Nope, I didn't.

The context make clear that they are talking about the MCU, and only YOURS denal allow you to make some excuse of rebuttal.

There's like two at most and I have yet to see any coherent argument that isn't a retread of "why is Black Panther the first black superhero movie if Steel, Blank Man and Spawn exist? Oh hello, Blade? *snaps fingers*"

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>Like three different anons wiped the floor with you in past 10 posts already.

>lose
>pretend to have win
nice try.

>and I have yet to see any coherent argument
The context make it clear they are talking about the MCU.

it doesn't mean anything

Dude I'm on your side.

It means there is nothing wrong with celebrating it.

Sorry, my bad.

Dude, I am so on your side, context also make it clear no character including Wasp don't count because reasons. Because with "lead female hero" narrative wouldn't be complete.

Aw, was I not worth two separate replies this time?

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No u.

>agent Carter
>superhero
What are her superpowers?

Had they made a Wasp movie, you could consider her the first solo female hero, but they didn't. In fact they could've made a Black Widow movie and they didn't because of Ike Perlmutter, it's why they're now doing one way after her prime.

Why? What makes the first MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE female led superhero special, that it warrants celebration with the fucking british police? It's a brand achievement, not a female representation achievement.

Please tell me there are replies in that tweet calling them out.

Satisfied ?

They all know damn well she isn't the first female, but saying she is gets more attention than saying she isn't.

It's not willful ignorance. It's lying.

>Why? What makes the first MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE female led superhero special
Like pointed out out, it's the first in more than 10 years. It was about time. People are happy to have what they wanted.

>It's not willful ignorance. It's lying.
It's not. It's very obvious that they are talking about CM being the first MCU movie with a lead movie. Don't pretend you don't understand that.

Movies like these not only make a lot of money, they also attract a huge amount of attention. It's only natural that there's interest in what it represents and the sort of portrayal the characters have.
Were it simply a "brand" thing I doubt there would be sportswomen doing campaigns associated to it, for instance.

Thanks sweetie, I was worried you actually we're cured if your autism for a few brief moments.

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> Why is Black Panther the first black superhero movie if Steel, Blank Man and Spawn exist? Oh hello, Blade?
Same reason why Captain Marvel is the first female hero in the MCU.
Narrative. Without narrative it will be "first lead female hero in the MCU" and "first LEAD black hero in the MCU" respectively.

Oh good, it looks like it's finally sinking in for you retards that this is going to make a billion and all your endless retarded bitching did was make people MORE interested

Lets ask them than to be sure. "Hey guys, if you know well she isn't the first female, why you don't write "lead female". Do you have twitter?

You will not get a bonus, man. Deal with it. Get the real job.

If you want to be obnoxious as fuck.

>someone disagree with me
>must be a corporate chill.
not how it works.

She has two of those.

modern westerners or whites have made nothing new. everything they make is garbage or recycled generic trash.

so they desperately want to get credit for something new. this has happened everywhere. which is fucking getting ugly. its nothing but junk from white mindset/experimentalism/pride.

yeah and this warrants inviting the police and the military to shill for your movie

>what is Marvel sponsorship
they're paying a brazilian singer to wear a captain marvel outfit in carnaval for fucks sake

Who else can do Facebook comment instead of post?

Obnoxious? Come on, we are not working for them or something.

Oh how awful! Promoting a movie with the help of celebrities

Thank God DC would never do anything like that

you were implying it's the celebrities/public figures that have an interest to latch onto Captain Marvel because of her """"popularity"""", shill

1. That was a co lead
2. That movie sucked
3. you're dumb

No I'm not you fucking moron I'm saying studios do all sorts of things to promote their movies

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racist assholes forgetting Shaq's oscar worthy portrayal of John Henry Irons in dc's Steel masterpiece from the mid-nineties...

>first female hero in the Marvel universe

The tweet itself doesn't even specify the marvel cinematic universe, it generally states marvel universe, which captain marvel is most certainly not the first female hero. And even if they meant the MCU it doesn't even specify that Marvel is the first female lead, just the first female hero in general which once again isn't true.

Your argument is completely unfounded.

Hey, free movie. No reason to complain.

Anyone with two working neurones know they are talking about the MCU.

My argument is that anyone who know the context, which you do, will understand that. stop pretending you did not get it.

Slut is misogynistic language user. You’re supposed to say “She dresses in a sexualized manner”. Basically means the same thing but is more PC

So you're saying that if you went up to the person that wrote the tweet to point out that Black Widow or Wasp already existed they'd call you a liar? There's no need for all these mental loops, it's the first MCU tom film with a woman as the main/only lead, that's it

The context of the tweet is still not strong enough to warrant the lack of specification. It's a marvel movie premier for which multiple female hero's have been a part of prior to this one. The context isn't enough to simply gloss over the existence of previous female heroes in the series of films that preceded Captain Marvel, in fact it complete undermines all of the actresses and female characters that have helped make the MCU the powerhouse it is. You are basically saying that all other female characters in the MCU are worthless in comparison to Captain Marvel, and that's pretty fucking awful.

Define "modern"
And sure if everything is invented, it will be hard to invent something new.
Thats why many blacks complain science is so white, because everything is already invented by a white or asian scientist.

Fuck off retard.

>Leftists don't give a shit
You are either baiting or haven't been paying any attention whatsoever to the current state of political correctness run amok. It's entirely Leftists responsible for this bullshit.

I live in the uk and I’m planning on joining the police when I finish with university...I’m really having second thoughts you know

What are Iron Man's superpowers?

They should've specified:
>The first female solo superhero movie non-affiliated with pre-MCU, Fox or Sony properties yet to be acquired by Disney

A female co-lead which also introduces the original wasp back into the MCU sucked?

It was a fine standalone film

Yeah, even if you assume they mean the MCU, that still fails to acknowledge all of the female heroes that have shown up there.

This

It's disgusting how people pretend superhero movies outside the MCU don't matter!

Yeah, doesn't sound so damn special does it?

Probably because it isn't.

God damn I hate Yea Forumsmblr

since like 07, the first big SNS myspace became popular. im not talking about anything but art/entertainment. they havent made anything new literally. since mid 10s, everything has become sjw trash or recycled garbage and self-deconstructive. all "standards" and traditional values have been melting. games, cartoons, comics, music, films, everything . shoehorning sjw stuff into preexisting old popular media or style isnt anything new.

Yeah I guess a meh action movie s right up there with segregation ending.

>The Met is run by moronic Common Purpose-appointed diversity shills that can't even be bothered to do basic research
Wow. Who would have fucking thought? I am amazed by this staggering revelation.

>The context of the tweet is still not strong enough
The context of reality is. The whole point about context is that you don't need to specify it.

Literally everyone, including yourself, know the are talking about the MCU and you are purposely ignoring it. You immediately understood what they meant and yet you still pretended to not get it.
> in fact it complete undermines all of the actresses and female characters that have helped make the MCU the powerhouse it is. You are basically saying that all other female characters in the MCU are worthless
No, I am not, and you know it.

Captain Marvel is effectively the first MCU movie with a female lead. and acknowledging this doesn't deter previous female actresses.

>first female solo movie after 11 years of franchise
So progressive

Don't join them. Police officer getting to see a movie giving you doubt is a clear sign you shouldn't be a police officer. One motivation shouldn't be that weak not be deterred by something that trivial.

captain marvel has the most shambolic and fucked up history of all thise heroes and is explicitly the least heroic of all of those throughout her entire comic history. shes a complete fabrication and a whitewashed "hero" who was chosen and propped up for culture points from women.

despite the actual good and worthwhile female heros w good comics and good backstories, women chose this fake one w trash comics bc carol is a representation of their horseshit. they just want to be number 1 so they can be the bitches they want to be. a bitchy female protagonist isnt a mistake, its a feature. none of these "fans" read carols comics or know anything about her other than "yas queen" "you go girl". thats all they care about but theyll pretend they gaf bc thats what they do. pretend they arent shit

Don't worry bonganon, they wouldn't have accepted you anyways unless you were a woman or muslim

I am not from tumblr, I have been here since 2007.
>can't even be bothered to do basic research
You are mistaken, it's very clear they are saying it's the first MArbvel

Because that's how marketing works, ya dumbo

Well then here's a crazy thought

Leave

>can't even be bothered to do basic research
You are mistaken, it's clear they are saying it's the first MCU movie with a female lead, which is true.

You know there are people who actually enjoy the character, right ?

>none of these "fans" read carols comics or know anything about her other than "yas queen" "you go girl"
This is where you are wrong.

Hence why they are celebrating it. About time. Penultimeter is the one to blame as he kept nixing a black widow movie.

Same reason every Marvel shill forgot that Blade was a thing.

It takes 5 minutes to scroll through a wikia. They didn't even do that

It's not about forgetting anything or not doing research. It's clear they are talking about how it is the first MCU movie with a female lead.

Come on, you are fully aware of it.

Because she's the first Marvel female hero where she's the lead in the current MCU and to write that all out is too much work for twitter normies.

They didn't forget Blade was a thing. Not only is Blade not part of the current MCU, it also barely registered as a proper super hero movie because it was about blackula hunting. Yes it was overhyped and there were idiots treating it like a historical first, but the actual articles written didn't treat it as such, one of the most zealous calling it historically important because of how well it did globally.

>how it is the first MCU movie with a female lead.
Didn't they make an Electra movie before this?

She isn't part of the MCU.

I don't think you understand what MCU means

They don't actually know anything about the comics or the character, they just like to feel validated by tweets and headlines.

It's not about that, it's just that they meant to say it's the first MCU movie with a female lead.

They could just say it then to not sound ignorant.

She isn't even the First Captain Marvel from Marvel comics.

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Why does that matter?
Why does it matter when specifically one studio does something if it's already been done before?

It's still quite obvious and it was less of a mouthfull.

user, it's a popular franchise that's been running for more than a decade. You can cry about it but normies will absolutely care about its "achievements"

neither is that one, casual

Cuz ScarJo is box office poison now.

>Space Fascist
Hey, I can at least appreciate they’re maintaining one of her most defining traits from the comic. She doesn’t have many.

Wow...kill yourself.

Because the disjointed mess that fit in Elektra in 2005 is nothing compared to the eleven years old franchise where each movie is a global event.

Every single fucking female in DC and MCU is "the first ever female", because female accomplishments mean so incredibly little that they won't even recognize one another.

They're obviously talking about protagonists. The irony of OP talking about wilful ignorance.

the current character is just bitchy no consequences, no responsibility wish fulfillment where she gets to feel awesome no matter what happens and all her drama and sadness is purely performative and easily handwaved just to show how #brave and #resilient. just cheap bullshit.

i know there are people that enjoy new carol. they arent worth a damn.

>They're obviously talking about protagonists

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There have been female protagonists in the MCU for several years now

What are you talking about lol

That or it's been 14 years since the last female super hero movie and none of them have ever been part of the current cinematic universes. Also it makes better clickbait as not only are they more sensational, they attract those who know better and wish to correct misinformation. It's a win win for them and they know.

> Wasp and Scarlet Witch, the two classic Avengers women, will have very small cameos, which may even be non-speaking roles, in Endgame, which may be the last Avengers movie.

Deuteragonist at best, more realistically sidekick.

thats all current carol is. and no one liked past carolli this

*like this and these werent her fans

Source: my ass

her character and story have been completely hijacked by that. go read old carol and then this new shit. the change is glaring and grating

The Disney princess treatment. You don't count if the movie is not a hit

Thats awfully sexist of you to discredit a character's achievements like that, just because she's a women

>first TITular heroine
>no tits

What did Marvel mean by this?

Irrelevant

>the current character is just bitchy no consequences, no responsibility wish fulfillment where she gets to feel awesome no matter what happens
wrong.

>no one liked past carolli this
Yes, they do.

Being co-star and being the lead aren't the same thing, user, and you know it.
No, it's not.

Yea Forums is not Yea Forums, the distinction of it being a specific series of movies should not matter in Yea Forums-related discussions.

It's not a matter of counting or not. It' clearly about her being the firt female lead in an MCU movie.

She gets second billing on someone else's movie series. We can argue the semantics, but it's factually much different than to be your own solo hero unrelated to someone else's movie

It matter in understanding the meaning of that article. That article was not written in consideration of the Yea Forums board it would be talked on. You are not making a point, there.

Is this a Yea Forums-related discussion or is it actually a Yea Forums-related discussion? If people want to defend or get butthurt over things related to a movie, just how far removed from Yea Forums content are we getting?

How long until this releases and /pol/ kills itself out of pure despairing rage anyway?

>Is this a Yea Forums-related discussion or is it actually a Yea Forums-related discussion?
It's Yea Forums related. Captain Marvel is a comics book character.

It's not about Captain Marvel though, it's about a twitter post about a movie about a comic character. Is it really worth space on Yea Forums and your time?

>bootlicking the police
>bootlicking the military
Marvel has no shame

At least Scarlet Witch and Black Widow are entirely their own characters and didn't originate as a female expy of a male title.

>It's not about Captain Marvel though,
Yes, it is.

>britbong policewomen
are constantly getting raped because noguns

I legit saw someone on my facebook saying Captaib Marvel was the first female action hero on a post about Alita. This is a bitch who was going on the same tune with Ghostbusters and Wonder Woman. Are NPC's being made with less memory storage now?

When will you incel retards realize women are beautiful perfect beings and every form of representation on them deserves celebration. I'm sorry the salt of Stacey rejecting you in high school makes it impossible for you to see that.

The marketing has doubled down on the whole "A woman has never been able to do anything significant" nonsense.

Marvel could've avoided this if they just made a fucking Black Widow movie.

FPBP

Jesus Christ, do you have anything going on in your life that you can't relate back to American politics?

>The correction still gets it wrong

Amazing

Is that a Dr. Katz homage on Arthur?

how is a co-lead any less important than a single lead? You keep saying it like it’s a bad thing

So I guess Storm, Sue Storm, Emma Frost, and mystique are nothing now?

>The marketing has doubled down on the whole "A woman has never been able to do anything significant" nonsense.
No, they haven't. it's clear they are talking about how this is the first MCU movie with a female lead.

It's a fake.
>how is a co-lead any less important than a single lead?
Not what I said.

If it's not an Avengers or GOTG property, Marvel's not counting it. This whole ad campaign is a mixture of desperately trying to pander to feminists/90s kids and nuclear butthurt that DC beat them to the punch.

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>No I'm not
>Movies like these not only make a lot of money, they also attract a huge amount of attention. It's only natural that there's interest in what it represents and the sort of portrayal the characters have.
>Were it simply a "brand" thing I doubt there would be sportswomen doing campaigns associated to it

Sure sounds like "Captain Marvel attracts attention and there's interest in what it represents so it's only natural sportswomen are doing campaigns associated to it"

Instead of Marvel marketing this shit everywhere

>comparing having a female lead in a superhero movie for little kids to the end of segregation

Alita is a villain. She's literally a super assassin

so is Carol

That those tow arne't on the same level doesn't affect the point I made. Learn to logic better.

Carol is at least cute and sexy

>I guess black shouldn't have celebrated tthe end of sgreagation, even if it was about damn time.
the appropriate comparison would be saying we finally ended segregation even though it happened decades ago just to sell a product

They had that one commercial that was Carol being told she can't do anything because she's a girl which was fucking ridiculous.

That's not a working comparison at all.

People are happy an MCU movie is finally getting a female lead. That's the point, that there is marketing around it is of irrelevant.

They are celebrating it because Disney is paying them. Kevin Feige was scared the shit out of making a movie with a female hero before the success of Wonder Woman, but criticizing Disney/Marvel is taboo among journalists.

No, it's not. There is no reason to find it ridiculous.

>all this revisionism
Some articles called it the first superhero movie with a black lead.

when they say first they mean first solo headlining, which sounds a lot less impressive than it actually is

for example this decade's only attempt at starting a non-superhero tentpole franchise with a female lead was Jupiter Ascending, which started and ended with the titular space princess scrubbing rich guy's toilets for a couple bucks plus tips

film is hard, getting it right is harder, twitter isn't really the place for jumping onto people for speaking in shorthand where you're supposed to be smart enough to fill in the gaps yourself, it just makes you look dumber than you really are

I can't believe we live in a world where the media is otherwise forced to only say good things about Disney.

The movie isn't set in the 50's

>They are celebrating it because Disney is paying them
Disney is not paying the cops.

>Disney is not paying the cops.

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>which sounds a lot less impressive than it actually is
It is when you realise ti took more than 10 years for it to happen. About damn time.
The practise of mysoginy by people in position of power didn't end after the 50's.

Just because you don't do it doesn't mean that people within the position of affecting other people's life aren't doing it either.

Not forced. But most journalists who cover movies and 'need stuff' are a bunch of Disney-obsessed manchildren and womenchildren. I don't know how this phenomenon started but it's real (I know it because my brother is one of them)

Go on, user, crack it up, make it the next big case of corruption. You might gain a Pulitzer, showing how Disney bribe the cops so they can serve as promotion devices.

>superpowers
Does the characters having superpowers even change anything, given that the writers just have them punch everything instead of actually using their powers?

Gender discrimination was already a crime in the 90's. The movie is going into full revisionism mode to teach people that western women were still oppressed just 2 decades ago.

Maybe when you learn to spellcheck you dumbass phoneposter

Doubtful because Blade isn't a superhero and he was always sold as a vampire hunter. Most people don't even know it's a Marvel property.

>Gender discrimination was already a crime in the 90's
Thieving was also a crime in that time. I guess there were no thieving in the 90's either.

Blade and Spawn were both capeshit.

Big fat titties

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Ask ANY black person if they consider Spawn to be representative of black "heroes" in comics, see what happens.

Is Carol is a mindraped weapon that is about to start an intergalactic war between 3 alien civilizations. On a scale of fuck-ups and negative impact of their actions, Carol's is significantly worse.

The first female fighter jet pilot only came up in 93. I guess that's rather on point.

>thieving
>not stealing
Jesus Christ this is awkward phrasing. Are you ESL?

yeah.

Hayley Atwell is such a slam piece

lol

Gross

is the blonde in the middle trans ?

Not just MCU but first female superhero IN THE WORLD, user

and yes, your rat faced jewess will never count

>The first female fighter jet pilot only came up in 93
Huh, that's something I didn't know. Curious considering Carol did that in the late 70's, and I figured it was inspired on someone.

Nobody in the 90's West were telling women to stay in the kitchen. They should've set the movie in the 50's or in a Muslim country if they wanted feminism.

>muh deecee
poor bastard
when will they learn?

They should, Spawn is an important comic book character.

You got distracted by the tits and meant to quote me, didn't you? That's okay, I got you.
Anyway you barely ever see Spawn in human form so I don't think it counts.

But not the first female pilot. The movie is 50 years too late.

You come here and push your autism then expect the original users to leave?

>Nobody in the 90's West were telling women to stay in the kitchen
>nobody
wrong.

>They should've set the movie in the 50's or in a Muslim country if they wanted feminism.
Just because you don't want women to be barred off from certain activity doesn't mean everyone act the same. there are still people in position to affect other people's future who think less of women and will act in ways that make it more difficult for them to succeed.

nobody will care about a forced female character after the merger

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>The movie is 50 years too late.
How so ? You are not using logic, here.

Just because there were female pilot beforehand doesn't means it's impossible for people in the 90's to have thought women shouldn't pilot fighter jet.

Carol Danvers is not just a female pilot, she's literally a fighter jet pilot after enlisting in the Air Force. It's a relevant part of her story.

There is nothing forced.

that's like saying the "all it's connected bits" of each MCU movies are forced.

Captain Marvel is pretty forced. No one asked for a Captain Marvel movie nor do they want her terrible comic that they continuously relaunch.

>it doesn't count because mask!!!1
Lol. Also, did you watched the Spawn movie? He wears no mask most of the time.
Nothing you say can change the fact that Spawn and Blade came before Black Panther and the media went full revisionism mode to increase the movie's value.

I'm gonna be honest. There's no such thing as "forced diversity." This BS criticism was made up by Trump supporting bigots who need something to cling on to in order to justify their bigotry. The alt right would be the same racists back in the 70s complaining about blacks being added to a show or the same parents complaining about The Simpsons destroying traditional family values in the 90s.

No one asked for Doctor Strange or Ant-Man or Guardians or Black Panther, yet there they all are. This is a lousy argument that always falls flat.

>Captain Marvel is pretty forced
Not really.
>No one asked for a Captain Marvel movie
Irrelevant, no one asked for a Guardian of the Galaxy either.

A creator don't have to always do what the audience expect of them.

>female character stronger than thanos comes out of nowhere to save the day
seems forced

>This BS criticism was made up by Trump supporting bigots
This existed way before trump, but yeah, it's BS.

>stronger than thanos
No one has stated that.
>comes out of nowhere
Her character has existed for Decades, she does nto come out of nowhere more than Dr. Strange did.

1/10 for getting me to reply, nice samefag

>did you watched the Spawn movie? He wears no mask most of the time.
Because it was released in a time where CGI was super expensive and effects were godawful so they had to keep it to a minimum. And anyway it's a terrible movie from a 90's Image property so yeah it doesn't count.
Meanwhile Black Panther IS technically the first black superhero and I don't mean movies only, but in the comics. I'm sure you'll go and look for a literal spear-chucker comic character and claim otherwise but technically yes, BP has that going for it.

I am I am not

>My headcanon says she'll save the day so no matter how illogical it would be, it's gonna happen!

>Doctor Strange
He actually have fans.

>Ant-Man
Pymfags.

>Guardians
People that read DnA's run.

>Black Panther
Black people and woke white people.

And Captain Marvel has fans too. You are not making a point, there.

wegotthiscovered.com/movies/kevin-feige-says-captain-marvel-will-be-stronger-than-even-thanos/

user, everyone has fans. Your only angle here is that some fans don't count for whatever arbitrary reason

When were people using the phrase "forced diversity" before?

Holy shit you must be brand new

But Wasp was a female lead.

Her name was literally in the title.

>It's another "Faggot posts the same one article without realizing he fell for clickbait with no actual quote to back it up" episode
This one airs way too often lately

>>Doctor Strange
>He actually have fans.
So does Carol, you'd argue that only hardcore Pink Floyd fans were remotely aware of it anyway.
>>Ant-Man
>Pymfags.
Okay what? You really think there's more than 10? Barely anyone cared about Ant-Man before the movie.
>>Guardians
>People that read DnA's run.
So basically none? That run was basically a cult hit, because it sold pretty badly during a time when Civil War was a thing. If that run happened in the present it would've been cancelled pretty early due to its pitiful sales.
>>Black Panther
>Black people and woke white people.
He was really not well known, Black Panther was synonymous with the group, not the character for a long time.

Co-lead, if the movie was "THE WASP" then it would be true.

Most likely meaning "protagonist".

One of the Key point of the Russo Brothers in infinity Wars (who are also doing End Game, btw), is that Thor failed to stop Thanos precisely because he wanted to defeat him solo.

It'll most likely take a team-up effort to defeat Thanos in End Game.

Motherfucker a lead is a lead.

cosmicbook.news/captain-marvel-thanos-kevin-feige
>Captain Marvel is a character in our comics and in a mythology whose got one foot on Earth, one foot in the cosmic arena. And now that we have made a number of movies that take place on Earth, and now a number of the cosmic adventures with Avengers, and with Guardians of the Galaxy and with Thor, we thought it was the right time to finally introduce Captain Marvel to the world. She's one of the most popular characters in our comics, she's one of the most powerful characters in the comics and will be the most powerful character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
With this level of denial I'm assuming you're either a shill or some Yea Forumsmblr retard

Nop. i ma here since 2007.

You're either some pajeet mouse shill or a phoneposting tard then

Because headlines are just as good as facts to them. Be prepared for the final step where they blame all liberals for misleading headlines and take no responsibility for how they function of knee jerk reactions and prejudice.

Wasp is a co-Star, not a lead. Not the same thing.
see Most likely meaning the heroes, not the villains.

>Quoting Cosmic Book News, an ACTUAL clickbait site
And they quote doesn't say anything about her being stronger than Thanos, it's right there: being one of the strongest doesn't mean she will upstage Thanos.

>i dont know what words mean but i'll keep saying them anyway.

Wasp is a fucking lead you retard.

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Nope.

Taking in that he's listing off heroes and hero groups I'm sure he means "main character".

>Kevin Feige actually meant something completely different than what he said
Wow

Evangeline Lilly is a lead in Ant-Man & The Wasp, but she's not THE protagonist of the movie. There's a big difference between those two concepts.

Its nowhere near as big a difference as you're claiming it to be, dipshit.

He flat out said she will be the most powerful character in the MCU.

It pretty much is when she shares the title of the movie and has equal air time as her partner. Pretty different that a movie in which a female character is by herself.

Lack of information or lying are literally the only ways to be oppressed now.

>completely different
"most powerful protagonist" and "most powerful character" are certainly not "completely different". No to mention, the Russos's comments are more significant to take in account than Feige, when it come to guess how Thanos will be defeated.

It is. Being an co-star and a lead is not the some thing. it's like trying to convince people Iron Man was the star of civil War movie, you know that's not accurate.

You can read between the lines do you? That means until that point, after Thanos is defeated. Because the Eternals are coming as well as other Marvel properties and it sure as hell won't mean she will remain the most powerful.

Now, i know you're a retard, but you're aware a movie can have more than one protagonist right?

The Wasp is both a lead and a protagonist in Ant-Man and The Wasp.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Widow_(Claire_Voyant)

she was first but muh agenda

fucking stupid bitch realized her racist comments against White people fucked up her career and is now trying the "i-if you don't like me then you're sexist"

Except he said she will be the most powerful character and for some reason you can't understand the difference between what he actually said and what you wished he had said

LMFAO!!

She's not. She shares the movie with her partner, it's not her fucking movie and she's not the sole focus, not to mention it's a sequel of the male character, a fact you seem to keep ignoring.

Garbage

The movie makes it a point to highlight how important she is to the plot and how the movie is essentially about her you fucking idiot.

And yes, she is a protagonist, because a movie can have more than one protagonist, you raving fucking retard.

>she was first but muh agenda
Missing the point. it's about how she is the first female lead in a MCU movie, which is true.
>The Wasp is both a lead and a protagonist in Ant-Man and The Wasp.
Being a co-star and being a lead isn't the same thing.

An incredible display of mental gymnastics, your shill bucks are well earned

Oh hey, it's the quote that shows Feige never mentioned Thanos

I mean, what are you bitches even trying to argue here? Endgame is fucking 3 hours long, you think it's going to be 2 and a half waiting for Carol and then she punches Thanos once? Give me a break

>Except he said she will be the most powerful character
And most likely
-He meant most powerful portagonst
-The russo will be the one to set things up and they have already expressed they want his defeat to be a team effort.

> for some reason you can't understand the difference between what he actually said and what you wished he had said
You seems to have an hard time grasping the concept of "He most likely meant", funnily enough.

That's the point - she's desperate now beacuse she's aware her career is tanked after her racist comments against White people so she's get non-whites to publish this agenda

Don't get me wrong, it could have been great like Gal Gadot but nah, she fucked up famalam

You are beyond stupid jesus chris.

Yes, a co-star is a fucking lead you retard, and the wasp is one of two protagonists in the movie, stop being retarded.

Also, since i forgot to mention:

>not to mention it's a sequel of the male character
The Wasp is her own original mantle while Captain Marvel was a male identity that Carol co-opted.

She isnt even the first female Captain Marvel, she's the third. And while Hope is the second Wasp, it started as a female mantle.

So good job retard.

Not the user you are quoting, but missing the point here.

Captain Marvel Is effectively the first MCU movie witha female lead. youcan't deny it.

In ant and the wasp, ant ant-man and wasp aren't lead, they are co-star. It's not the same thing as being lead.

you are quite disingenuous if you don't agree with that.

IT FUCKING IS THE SAME THING AS BEING A LEAD. WHAT IS THE ACTUAL TANGIBLE FUCKING DIFFERENCE?

Last (You): the movie is called ANT-MAN & The Wasp, not The Wasp alone. She's basically a sidekick despite being better than Scott.
It doesn't count. Captain Marvel is the first and if they hadn't chickened out, Black Widow would've made it the second. But it's not how it went. Deal with it. Embrace it.
The origin of the name is irrelevant to the discussion at hand and bringing it up just shows you have no leg to stand on. Being first doesn't mean better, as shown by Phyla holding the title for a very brief time before coopting Quasar's mantle, and Monica Rambeau taking the name because "it sounded cool" while having zero affinity with Mar-Vell.

>she's desperate now beacuse she's aware her career is tanked after her racist comments

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>after her racist comments against White people so she's get non-whites to publish this agenda
It wans't racist.

>Yes, a co-star is a fucking lead you retard, and the wasp is one of two protagonists in the movie, stop being retarded.
No itsn't.
No, its not being a lead mean you are the most important. when there is tow, it's co-starring. Not to mention, Ant-man has a more prominent role in ant and wasp.

THAT SHE'S NOT BY HERSELF AND SHE NOT SHARING THE MOVIE WITH A MALE PARTNER, WHY ARE YOU STILL DANCING AROUND THIS? DID WONDER WOMAN SHARE HER MOVIE WITH ANYONE ELSE?

To be fair it also makes it a point to call Hope Scott's partner. He's still the protagonist, the movie is told from his perspective

>beacuse she's aware her career is tanked after her racist comments against White people
Dude nobody fucking gives a shit aside from angry white gamers with an axe to grind

First, Captain Marvel isnt a solo movie either, she's the co-star with Nick Fury, so by your own logic she isnt a solo female lead.

Second,
>Deal with it. Embrace it.
No, i want good female characters, not shit female characters. Carol is an objectively terrible character, give me a good character like She-Hulk instead.

>The origin of the name is irrelevant to the discussion at hand and bringing it up just shows you have no leg to stand on. Being first doesn't mean better, as shown by Phyla holding the title for a very brief time before coopting Quasar's mantle, and Monica Rambeau taking the name because "it sounded cool" while having zero affinity with Mar-Vell.
I brought it up because you're a fucking retard who tried to make a point about The Wasp being a lead in a sequel to a male-starring movie you fucking moron.

> her racist comments about white people
is this another episode of "retards dont understand the concept of target demographics" ?

>Ant-man has a more prominent role in ant and wasp.
Not really.

Its Hopes memory that helps them figure out Janet is alive, Hope does a lot of the heavy lifting, and Hank is the one who actually goes into the Quantum Realm at the end.

>IT FUCKING IS THE SAME THING AS BEING A LEAD
No, it isn't. Being the lead means you are the main one and Ant-man is more prominant than the Wasp int hat movie. she is a co-star, not the lead.

And also, you are bing an disigenuou nit-picker because you know damn well that what they are happy about Captain Marvel is that it's the first MCU movie with a solo female lead.

You keep dancing around it, trying to find loophole, but you know that And and Wasp and Captain Marvel doesn't treat their female star the same way.

I must've missed the part where the movie was called "captain lesbian and the one race swap people arent angry about"

Is her movie called "Captain Marvel & Nick Fury"? "Captain Marvel & The Howling Commandos"? No? Then shut up.
>Muh she-Hulk
Oh it's you again, it's not gonna happen and the sooner you deal with it the better, specially not fucking Byrne's run LMAO

>Not really.
Yes really. Ant man do most of the action, while most of the time Wasp assist her father. Not to mention, the movie title is more about her father and mother.

>Its Hopes memory that helps them figure out Janet is alive, Hope does a lot of the heavy lifting, and Hank is the one who actually goes into the Quantum Realm at the end.
I didn't say her role wasn't important but Ant man carry the movie more than she does.

You're so fucking stupid that the logic you've created to invalidate The Wasp as a female action lead now means that the concept of an ensemble movie cannot exist.

>Captain Marvel isnt a solo movie either, she's the co-star with Nick Fury
He is a support role, not a co-star. So, wrong.

>>Is her movie called "Captain Marvel & Nick Fury"? "Captain Marvel & The Howling Commandos"? No? Then shut up.

>Abloo bloo dont point out obvious logical flaws with my argument by citing elemnts of the film in relation to its sister films oh abloo abloo bloo bloo

The name could be fucking anything, its about the content of the film you fucking idiot. The Terminator isnt the protagonist of The Terminator, its Sarah Connor, it doesnt actually mean anything other than indicating the subject of the film.

Im trying to keep up with the shill dictionary here, can you define the primary difference between the two because Nick looks like a co-star to me.

I am not stupid. Quite on the contrary, I seems to actually be able to figure out that being a solo lead and being part of an esemble cast hasn't the same signification.

I am aware to perceive that Captatin Marvel having a female lead is not the same as Ant and wasp having wasp.

All you seems to do is play on the meaning of the words to insist that somehow it's the same and that what Captain Marvel is doing with its lead is the same as what ant and wasp did with Hope.

but only a moron would actually concludeis the same.

So no, when someone point out that Captain Marvel is the first MCU movie with a female lead, you are not clever poiting out Ant and Wasp, all you are doing is making the need to say
So no, when someone point out that Captain Marvel is the first MCU movie with a female SOLO lead, something that absolutely EVERYONE had already understood, including you, but you had to go and nitpick, because you are THAT guy.

>Im wrong but if i keep saying im right it'll make me right

Keep sucking that mouse cock.

Nick is more of a support character, he is absent of most of the cosmic part of the movie and assist CM as a sidekick rather than fulffulling an equal role.

Nick Furry is Captain MArvel's boy.

Those are British police officers, they are the ones who are 'super ignorant'

>>Im wrong but if i keep saying i m right
I was rigtht from the beginning and all I did is point out your obnoxiousness at not recognising that co-staring and solo lead aren't the same thing.

You are fully ware that saying that Ant and Wasp already did it before Captain Marvel is dishonest.

the content of the movie nobody has even watched yet?
are you from mongolia?

More like
>what I said as very obvious from the begining and didn't need a more lengthy expression, as everyone understood what it means straightforward, but here is the spelled out version for you to stop being a moronic nit-picker.

>all these hoops and loops to justify something that makes no sense
Unless the movie is stealthily a Nick Fury movie, Captain Marvel is still the protagonist and the one it's focused on. And yet, in your example it's still The Terminator the main threat Sarah Connor is fighting against.
He's the support character, holy shit. The official synopsis of the movie literally focuses around her, not Nick Fury:
>The story follows Carol Danvers as she becomes one of the universe's most powerful heroes when Earth is caught in the middle of a galactic war between two alien races. Set in the 1990s, Captain Marvel is an all-new adventure from a previously unseen period in the history of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Hell, it doesn't even mention him.

Stop samefagging.

You too.

>the content of the movie nobody has even watched yet?
The content of the movie that has a cosmic part and an earth part and whose Nick furry is only in the Earth part.

Doubleposting isn't the same as sameposting, it simply means I have more things to say.

Ran out of arguments?
>Nick furry
Now, I know he seems to like Goose, but let's not go overboard.

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Fucking go back to wherever yuo came from faggot you're too obvious.

> multiple people are calling me on my bullshit
> they must be the same person!

>DONT POINT OUT MY FAGGOTRY

Yep, confirmed for not having anymore arguments. Have a nice day.

stop projecting you closeted dick sucker, i am very proud of my faggotry

Are you from tumblr or twitter?

I'm from Yea Forums(nel). Look, I even bought a pass after 12 years of coming to this shithole.

> le tumblr boogeyman

Did you seriously just buy a Yea Forums pass to try and own me?

Im gonna need a minute to process that.

>he bought a pass
i am now insulted this faggot thinks us the same person

... No, I bought it for storytiming. Don't flatter yourself.

stop replying to yourself

It depends. there is forced diversity in historical pieces for example where it logically does not make sense, you only need to look at BBCs take on historical pieces such as Saint Joan, Rome etc.

That's not forced. No one is forcing it. It's like if someone makes a historical event a musical, they aren't forcing singing and dancing.

Ok so if I decided that majority of people in Africa is white for my new historical show, this wouldn't draw huge backlash no?

A musical isn't a retelling of history, it is a parody of it. If you are saying a historical tv show/film is accurate then it has to be the correct people or it is forced diversity, you are telling me you wouldn't raise eyebrows if someone decided to do a race reversal on american slavery and said it is historically accurate?

Source please. We've had this conversation before and those articles were so rare they weren't posted.

>A musical isn't a retelling of history, it is a parody of it.
That's not what parody means. Musicals are specifically a format genre, it could be serious or theatrical but never parodical unless explicitly framed as such.
>Ok so if I decided that majority of people in Africa is white for my new historical show, this wouldn't draw huge backlash no?
Africa is pretty diverse in itself but unless you were referring specifically to primarily white populations within the continent then yes, it would be a misrepresentation of the content. Not sure why you jumped at that because adding a handful of "minority races" to historical adaptations where they weren't as prominent doesn't really change their context, whereas changing the entire race of a country would look off.

The backlash and the accusations of inaccuracy has nothing to do with the concept of forced diversity though.

Jean Grey (2000)

I have never seen /pol/tards and incels be this triggered over a braindead capeshit movie. I thought the spergout over BP was bad, but this is a new level of pathetic. A 400 post meltdown because some police officer on twitter are excited to see a capeshit movie...at this point I'm convinced over half the anons here are false flag Mouse shills, trying to keep the conversation of CM alive and making the people critical of CM look like mentally ill monkeys.

Absolute cringe

>I'm convinced over half the anons here are false flag Mouse shills, trying to keep the conversation of CM alive
It's like you haven't seen the retards clipping pieces of the teasers and posting them to try and show how bad it looks, and making specific threads about every piece of marketing is published:
As usual, they don't understand that if they don't like something, they should ignore it instead of giving it more attention... Although at this point I am sure they'll all go see the movie anyway.

Reminder that the first people to talk about empowering women were communists who beleived it was essential to destabilizing nations.

Was that before or after historical presidence of female leaders?

>is the first female lead in the MCU in February of 2019
And next year they'll do the same but just adding 2020. Regressive left have the memory span of a gold fish...

Its international politics now, wake up and smell the roses goy

>because adding a handful of "minority races" to historical adaptations where they weren't as prominent doesn't really change their context
So to use that anons example...American slave trade you'd be okay with scattering a few white slaves in to the mix?

It wouldn't be forced diversity though we can talk about how accurate it is.

Why is this movie making all of you retarded and crazy? It's just like when She-Ra broke your brains.

>though we can talk about how accurate it is.
Which I think was other user's dissatisfaction. Call it forced diversity or something else it's, as you say, not accurate and it's also sanctimonious.

Let's not call it forced diversity because that implies that something happened against someone's will. In historical context it's just inaccurate.

Disney is definitely putting something in the water supply.

yeah. where were all these people when Alita tanked, or when Annihilation got buried away while Ghostbusters got all the attention?

It's stuff like that that make feminism look like rich people lighting their cigarettes with $100 bills.

Ghostbusters and Captain Marvel are about women doing things men usually do in pre-established franchises.

>Captain Marvel
You're reaching hard. What is she doing that was done in a preestablished franchise?

So apparantly they've spent $152 million for the budget of movie...

Any consesnus on how much they've spent on advertising for it, including all the tours and interviews that they now have to counteract because of the actress trying her best to piss everyone off?

Same as the budget? MORE than the budget?

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Are you already looking for excuses to say why it "bombed", because it needed to make "three times its budget"?

>celebrate women in policing

no thanks

They hate super qts, which Evangeline is.

I'm interested in if they had to spend more on damage control than the actual movie itself.

But hey, you can try adding to it for free if you want to.

What damage control? lmao
This is regular marketing, as they do with every other movie. Don't flatter yourself thinking a bunch of clickbait articles about things she didn't say and retards complaining about women deserve more money to be poured into publicity stunts.

I think it rather means being forced upon rather than against someone's will. You're absolutely right diversity doesn't happen against media companies will they love pushing diversity because it's in line with the progressive agenda.

Who cares? Who honestly gives a fuck about Carol Danvers, let alone the MCU? I'll bet not a single one of you are actually going to see the movie and you're just shitposting with the other retards here to pass the time.

All live-action capeshit is awful. Every bit of it.

Fuck off to Yea Forums and let the people with taste read comics in peace, holy shit.

Wonder Woman

You mean Perlmutter, not Feige.

Imagine Carol pegged by Peggy.

It will be Tony and Steve who save the day.

Only an idiot would think otherwise.

Why are blue eyed blonde women so consistently ugly?

The same Russos who made Vision weaker than Hawkeye and Black Widow.

Antman AND the Wasp.

When "AND" proceeds something it often means the thing before the "AND" is more important than what comes after.