TONIGHT

>A Big Tunnel 4u Edition
Hey Yea Forums! We're back TONIGHT with a new episode of the FINAL SEASON of Gotham!

Tonight's Episode:

5.8: "Nothing's Shocking" (Feb 28th)
>Bullock's past comes back to haunt him when he and Gordon investigate two murders at Sirens. Meanwhile, Bruce and Alfred explore the tunnels beneath the city, and Penguin and Nygma's plans to escape are thwarted by the least likely of suspects

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It's full of great stuff like our previous discussion threads, and social media accounts for our Gothamites.

Penguin's Seasonal Body Counts:
Season 1: i.imgur.com/YcJuR7Y.png
Season 2: i.imgur.com/U8VjOQo.png
Season 3: i.imgur.com/o0xYB6i.png
Season 4: i.imgur.com/n3sWSYi.png

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We finally know the big episode for you. Looks like we're skipping a week though.

5.9: "The Trial of James Gordon" (Mar 7th)
>After Gordon is shot in an attempt to establish a cease-fire, he hallucinates a trial for his life that could have deadly real consequences. Meanwhile, Ivy (guest star Peyton List) returns and puts her spell on Bruce, leaving Selina to defend herself. Lee has a life-changing moment as Barbara and Penguin consider their next moves

5.10 "I Am Bane" (Mar 28th)
>On the precipice of Gotham's reunification, Gordon and Bruce find themselves face-to-face with a newly transformed Eduardo, and discover the real mastermind behind the city's current chaos. Meanwhile, a pregnant Barbara turns to Lee for help

Oh baby, Scarface time

I'm gonna miss these threads.

OP here
me to user.
I do the Agents of SHIELD threads too, but it'll be nice to have good endings for both shows

Oh right the manor went kaboom

SCARFACE!

Damn Dix

Blood on the Dance Floor.

Assasin Creed’d!

>Meanwhile, Ivy (guest star Peyton List) returns and puts her spell on Bruce, leaving Selina to defend herself

Why does Ivy keep bullying Bruce?

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She wants to cuck Selina

Jim, you whore!

Pregnant Barbara is boner-inducing.

I'd rather suck Selina if ya know what i'm implying about her biological make up

That alarm system won't stop a sniper bullet Eddie

>named the sub after his mom

Cute

>working on Sonar for the sub
inb4 Bruce steals the tech for his future get up

VENTRILOQUIST TIME?

Puppets

Ahhhh there he is!

SCARFACE!!!
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

>Oswald's face

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So she cured Selina just to cuck her?

Revenge is a dish best served cold

Its funny, so far this episode feels like it didn't really need to be during No Man's Land. Kinda...stand alone-y.

is this clayface

Holy Mission Impossible, Batman!

It's one of the extra episodes added to the season. Next week's episode is also an add-on.

Scarface and guessing False Face, maybe just the False Face Society. Face theme for this episode, Clayface too.

Clayface doesn't wear fake faces.

Makes sense.

i wonder what the original storyline here. if this episode was standalone or just invented, did they have plans for the sub before? The water being green was an obvious shoop

It's his cousin, Fakeface.

Last week's previews showed two Barbaras so there has to be more than faces here.

Croc pls

Its Resident Evil!

Meanwhile, I'm gonna think of the new Pokemon game every time I hear Alfred.

>Mar 7th
>Mar 28th
>skipping a week
>a week
user...

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The main plot is just treading water until Bane. The initial order was for 10 episodes then they bumped it to 12 so the final count would be 100.

JANE DOE

Harper's got a nice bosom

It's a dummy, dummy.

My sides!

Yeah, I thought it was False Face. Jane seems more likely.

Well. Thats a twist.

Puppets, Crocs, and shapeshifters? This episode got it all!

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If Gordon removes that mask, will it hurt her?

Why did they do this in the spooky spinny fan room?

She said the thing.

Mise en scene.

Okay what did I miss, my asshole boss just left me off.

All of Gotham is a spooky, spinny fan room.

I loved her in Twisted Metal.

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You make threads for good shows, I only do the shitty ones.

Cloak and Dagger and Gifted were me.

Killer Croc too? They're too generous this week.

There's a shape-shifting chick who hates Bullock from an old case. Bruce and Alfred are searching the sewwrs for Killer Croc. Pen is the Ventriloquist and has Scarface threatening Penguin and Riddler.

Was that supposed to be killer croc?

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Bullock's not really evil, right guys? They wouldn't pull that on best boy right at the end would they?

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It's just some regular guy.

The girl is Jane Doe and she can shape shift. She got out of her cuffs.

There is a crazy cannibal in the sewers.

Bullock's always been shady (remember, he was fucking Mooney) but I doubt they'll make him outright bad.

I think he stood by while the other cops did something shitty and didn’t speak up.

Gotham is too good for us.

>not replacing "B"s with "G"s

Awww...

Really Riddler, you're siding with the dummy?

Geez, Harv.

AAAAAAHHHHHHH HE'S CHOCKING HIS DIX

I'm sad Gordon and Sarah Essen will never hook up.

Thank god Harper is back!

This Scarface is horrifying. It's really unnerving staring at a guy puppeting a dummy with a gun.

Oh please tell me they're going full blown zombie apocalypse.

So its not Croc?

Back in the day, Gotham would do three plots at the same time and two of them would always be shit. Bruce's plot was always shit and Gordon's plot was boring. Now all three plots are interesting and I would hate for them not to be there. Oh how times have changed.

As usual the Bruce plot is the worst one.

Gotham's Essen was an old lady so it's just as well.

WHICH ONE DO I SHOOT?!?!

Lol it's the Spider-Man episode

That took faster to resolve than expected

>The classic shoot the other one scenario

hilarious

Both, would it really be that bad?

Look at Penguin's hair spikes.

I love these motherfuckers.

No!

NOOO!

Aw, how dare you Eddie.

NOOOOOOOOO!

UPDATE THE CHART!

Oh fuck you Riddleman, Mr. Penn was the best.

Noooo, not Pen!

Stone cold, that Eddie.

I guess he repaid his debt

>perhaps we are meant for each other

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My ship isn't dead!

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I know this episode is filler, but they didn't need to kill him off.

Thank god that well adjusted gentleman ended that psychopath's life.

Despite all of Pengy's slip-ups, it wasn't Arnold.

he survived getting shot once. he can do it again.

My mind is blank on this girl, is she an OC?

Ah, the Calendar Girl twist.

>Jane isn't disfigured
>only her psyche is
Geez

Jane Doe.

'Cept in the comics she didn't have any powers. She just skinned people and wore their flesh.

Aaaaaaaaaand we lost another one.

No, I think you need to shoot her.

She'll be fairly attractive.

This particular interpretation yes, but Jane Doe is a character Slott created for his Arkham Asylum mini.

She's from BTAS.

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Hahah, anyone see the ORIGIN OF THE BATARANG?

Jim, you've done a ton of crooked things these past five years.

Gordon you're shacking up with Barbara, you're not fit to judge.

It was years ago and Harvey is obviously a better person.

So this whole episode was pointless right?

It was fun and I'm glad we got it.

Yes

Kinda. But we got three villains, and they did it better than Batman and Robin ever did.

Still no Joker Fish.

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I remember when almost went full anti-hero/punisher. Didnt notice he lhis high horse galloped back to him.

You guys remember when Gordon was fucking a mob boss' daughter and he pounded it so good she gave him commissioner? Harvey should remember.

It's pointless filler because it wasn't supposed to exist. Originally, season 5 only had ten episodes, but then Fox granted the showrunners two additional episodes. This was one of them.

But no Man Bat...damn.

Or Lady Shiva.

Or Calendar Man, who was teased since season two by the producers.

Or even Toymaker, who was just some random toy-themed assassin's son.

We got live-action Scarface out of it, so it wasn't worthless.

They didn't even have the budget for a Croc in this episode, gotta take what you can get.

The "Oh no who's the real one" scene was funny

>Ask 1 question
>Jane immediately gives up

They are showing every Batman villain ever tonight cause the series is ending.
We got Croc Scarface and probaby Clayface.

Dead thread for a dead show

bumpin

Still in the middle of watching the episode.
Pretty good so far. lots of 'fan service'.

Popped hard for Scarface. God damn I love Gotham I wish it could continue.

He's gonna be alive. That puppet is magic.

Someone explain to me what was wrong with the girl's face. Is it just her being delusional or I just don't get white people?

The point was that nothing was wrong with her face.

we literally had oswald bring back butch from being a zombie just to screw with tabitha.

people go on great lengths for revenge/mind games in gotham.

So when is oswald moving to britain to get his fake accent and fat?

>Turns out Oswald's Number One Guy was The Ventriloquist all along!
>*Kill Him*

>Turns out he ressurrected without a satisfacting explanation and found Scarface!
>*Kill Him*

Death or Logic doesn't apply to this Shit-Show ever again, so probably that's why a lot of Brain Dead Imbeciles love this show so much, since everything can happen and will happen.

"Gotham" is what happens when you mix Burton and the 60's styles in one take. This can be mixed and work, but you need talented writers to make it work.

I'm glad this show will die soon. I would love, tho, to see it return ONLY if Good Writers take over the project.

Yeah they combined Jane Doe with same ending.
Leaked pics of the finale show him still thin, but looking a lot like Burgess Meredith. At some point in the final two episodes he's going to get an injury that requires him to wear a monocle.

Hugo Strange did it, I ain't got to explain anything!

>Turns out he ressurrected without a satisfacting explanation and found Scarface!
Look, it's Gotham. Coming back from the dead happens so frequently there that it's really not worth asking anymore. For all we know lazarus water/strange chemicals/joker juice/grundy mud got into the water supply ages ago and now everyone needs either a bullet to the head or a rocket to everything to be put down for good.

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Fair enough. I know Comics Don't care about Character Deaths, but I'm not used to read a Batman Story, see Joker get killed 3 times, and make him come back in the Next story just because "Hugo Strange Did It".

If The show had good writers, people like Jerome, Ventriloquist and Theo Galavan would only have One Death per character.

Truth is Gotham improvises a lot of stuff. They Don't have real plans besides ending The Show with Batman, since this was a Day 1 idea.

This Ventriloquist Debut/Death scene IS The perfect example. You Kill this dude before because FOX didn't give you enough time to develop him, but later They give you 2 extra episodes, so you bring him back without a real explanation, reveal that he is The Ventriloquist/Scarface so you can get more Batman Followers into your show, and then you Kill him again 4 minutes later.

Saying "This show has shit stuff like this on It because It's Gotham" doesn't fix anything. It makes It worse.

How to fix this? You not Kill this guy The first time. He escapes The explosion trying to escape from Oswald. He finds Scarface. He comes back in a 2 Episode Mini-Arc for Oswald and Nygma where They Fight Scarface. They Kill him at The end OR They Kill Scarface and Gordon sends The Ventriloquist into the GCPD.

So. Fucking. Simple.

How boring

I'm actually fine with them killing ventriloquist, his shtick always got old very fast. That Killer "Croc" was just awful though

T. Reddit Gotham Fanboy When Someone Calls out his Bullshit and he doesn't have other arguments to fight Jack besides "It's an Elseworld" or "How Boring".

By your logic, every Batman Villain should die in the comics already because their Shtick got Old and predicable.

Jesus, Thank God this show will end soon and every single one of you will be left on Oblivion.

>people like Jerome, Ventriloquist and Theo Galavan would only have One Death per character.
>Truth is Gotham improvises a lot of stuff. They Don't have real plans besides ending The Show with Batman
But that's like half the fun. Having 3 Ivys and the Thing out there as a fugitive judge with weapons for hands reminds us we're watching a bunch of crazy people.

Death has less consequence in Gotham than DBZ. This is nothing new, it's stupid to complain about him it now. I'd rather villains by shot and inexplicably fall into a coma or die and be revived than not die at all. If the fucking Ventriloquist can escape Ed and Nigma it makes the main characters look inept

It's useless to have interesting concepts in your hands if you never execute them like they deserve.

Imagine if "Batman Returns" left Catwoman and Penguin Behind The Scenes, and only mentioned their actions across the movie with dialogues. You know what I'm saying?

Thing is Edward and Oswald are not the main characters. It's supposed to be Gordon and/or Bruce, not them.

But they fail by making them interesting. The only times we cared about Bruce was when Jerome and Jeremiah were messing around with him. Can someone proof me wrong on this?

Just wanna say thanks for making these every week, they really completed the episodes for me.

I don't want to "proof" you wrong I just don't understand how after 5 seasons you could think that Bruce and Gordon are exclusively the main cast. Gotham has a ensamble cast with several characters going in and out of the spotlight depending on the storyline. In season 4 after Ras was killed Bruce basically disappeared out of the story for several episodes at a time (save for the occasional scene of him being an edgy teenager peppered in). Season 2 and 3 featured Penguin, Barbara, and Ed significantly. Season 4 was centered around Penguin and Gordon for the most part. Season 5 goes back and forth between the villains perspective and Gordon's.

The older Bruce gets and post-epilogue scene in Gotham's final episode, the more it will become Bruce's story-----but for now it's Gotham's cast's story.

Bruce vs Order of St. Dumas was pretty cool

>I know Comics Don't care about Character Deaths
>I'm not used to read a Batman Story, see Joker get killed 3 times, and make him come back in the Next story

You aren't making sense. Batman comics, the source material, retcon deaths constantly, with less explanation than this for much less plausible comebacks.

Gotham has established that any character with more than one episode is nigh indestructable, and can be shot and thrown in the river only to be back next episode. The next episode revolves around Jim being shot and not dying again.

I think it's best to just assume anyone relatively well known won't be getting retroactively killed in the prequel.

There'd be no bad guys if they all died

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>Gordon sends The Ventriloquist into the GCPD.
Okay but for what reason, he is literally doing nothing wrong yet.

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