Can any German explain to me how this shit outsells Superman and One Piece?

Can any German explain to me how this shit outsells Superman and One Piece?

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better writing and art

1 There's tons of them 2 Less cape drama 3 Kids love it 4 Capes and weeb shit isn't available at every store. They are only available at specialized stores in big cities. Yet you can buy those Disney books at pretty much any bookstore 5 A lot of their stories are actually good

Are you guys Germans?
Is Mickey seen in Germany like Donald in Nordic countries?

They sell both of them in collection volumes at supermarkets.

Anything is better than capeshit.

if you mean that they are great comics then yes

It's what your mom would get you from the store without questioning it.
They are considered wholesome entertainment for young children and parents still remember them from their youth.
I like the story where Donald saves not- Dream Theater while shitting on dubstep.

Fun and varied stories ranging from adventures to slice of life and anything in between vs juvenile capeshit that got old 60 years ago.

They sell so much because germany has a rich history of antropomorphic children stories.
See grimms fairytales or other european animal fables.
They even have an old children series about a hedgehog, Mecki, or salamander, Lurchi.
So no wonder that Disney comics sold better.

How are they seen?
And anthologies are common for Disney comics. So both can be found in one book. But Donald is the superstar in Germany. He is seen as more interesting, adventuring normal citizin.
Micky is seen as the detective and your poster boy.
Germany is a duck land and has one of the biggest Donald/Bark fan club.

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Germans aren´t weeabos making barely disguised Yea Forums therads in Yea Forums .

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Idk how Donald is seen in Nordic countries. Both are sold together in those books but afaik Donald is more popular in Germany.

There's also a lot of interesting european ideas that a lot of people in the US haven't even heard of. Like Micky Detective stories (which often are really good) or Donald as Batman (Paperinik - Phantomias - Duck Avenger - Superduck).

long established brand gets bought over foreign capeshit and foreign battle manga? who'd have thought!

Also all the novel adaptations and spoofs.
19th century adventure novels and the likes are often the setting for these stories.

Wait, the idea micky as a detective is from italy? What Micky comics did they read than, the slice of life comics only?
I know that american disney and artists dont publish that many comics, but thinking this for me important part of micky is europe disney exclusive blows my mind!

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American comics are dominated by capeshit to an extremely saddening degree.

Wow I did t know that! I'm from Austria and I solely identify Mickey with his detective stories, the slice of life comics feel like "filler" or "oh that's what he's doing in his free time"

That being said, Donald and Scrooge are far more popular around here.

I think it's an effect of american culture.
Americans are ultimately immigrants from different parts of europe.
To understand each other they have to be extremely clear. Dogmatism is everywhere.
This polarizes everything from views on comics, politics or religion.
The result on comics is that they absolutely must be either the dumbest or the edgiest.
Euro, jap... non-american comics are allowed to have a much bigger spread.

Though, in the last twenty years or so america has been catching up thanks to Internets and weeaboos.

Germany is very much the same.
And good definition calling Mickys slice of life "filler".
The old one were just Donald as mouse, Daisy as Minnie, Scrooge is goofy (as character that made life hard) and donalds nephew are pluto with his nephews.

Maybe it came with the ww2 and all following crisis that heroes are seen interesting. Fighting crime with a little bit blood?
And Donald as well Mickey are your working force adventures that couldnt get bloody.
Thats why pulp was popular too back than.
While europe after the war wanted less blood or war stories so they diversed much more, even going historic. Not without a reason in europe fantasy is big.

The Micky Maus Heft contains all kinds of stories. From Micky, Donald, Goofy and Dagobert(the german name for Scrooge).
There's also the Lustiges Taschenbuch which is usually more Duck centric and has more pages and stories.

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There was several pages of this from a guy who made an argument about the difference in euro and american comics. Sadly I only saved two pages, which is a shame because the argument goes on further.

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SOurce on this comic ?

sadly I have no idea. As I said these were the only two pages I saved, eventhough every page made a point

While France and Belgium wanted their spunky resistance types, Italy and Germany were culturally and politically opposed to the concept of righteous heroism as an aspirational figure due to their recent experiences with big guy heroes.

The Comic Book History of Comics, written by Fred Van Lente.

Not that i disbelieve that, but i have some serious problems with this.
Maybe Wikipedia is wrong:
>wikipedia org/wiki/American_comic_book
>Following the end of World War II, the popularity of superheroes greatly diminished,[22] while the comic-book industry itself expanded.
>The dominant comic book genres of the post-CCA 1950s were funny animals, humor, romance, television properties, and Westerns. Detective, fantasy, teen and war comics were also popular, while adventure, superheroes, and comic strip reprints were in decline,[30] with Famous Funnies seeing its last issue in 1955.[

Than in the silver age they revieved tham and with Kirbys F4 and Spiderman it started again.
For example Superman was printed in Germany since 61 and Fantastic Four or Spiderman since 66.
But still capes wasnt that big.
So i guess that is something that sounds more correct than the comic.

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Mickey Mouse is just as foreign as that other shit. Stop larping.

This thread sucks, I’m gonna storytime the book of basedga

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Fpbp

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It’s pretty blatantly untrue, Disney books are the euro equivalent to capeshit or shonenshit.

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Bump if you’re reading.

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Adventurer/Detective Mickey originates from the Floyd Gottfredson newspaper comics from the 1930s that were expanded on by the Italians in the 1950s by artists like Romano Scarpa.

Detective Mickey had its start in the Floyd Gottfredson Mickey Mouse comic strips.

Just so everyone knows, the parts I’m skipping are all written in Latin. I suppose I could post those when I’m done with the English. I don’t know enough to say if there’s anything wonky with the translation.

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gtfo mate we are talking comic history

I just now noticed that the name of this book gets caught up in the word filter. That’s hilarious.
Imagine explaining to an ancient Christian wizard why that’s funny.

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Nah, you’re all pretending to understand the history of foreign cultures through funnybooks. this is the single most pathetic post I’ve ever seen on Yea Forums, which is really saying something.

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Didnt knew that. Thought since its so uncommon in the us, that an italian artist had this idea. Thx user.

Never heard about this. And why do you have this on your drive?

Apparently Euro Mickey comics are really good, over there they are epic adventure stories. The character has never really appealed to me so I've never read any but yeah.

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so this gives you an excuse to shitpost? you are the pathetic one here

I’m big into western esotericism, it’s an absolutely fascinating subject.

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I’m not shitposting, I’m spreading a historical document in an otherwise garbage thread. Don’t worry, there’s gonna be another “why Japan and America stupid?” thread tomorrow.

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That second footnote is comedically worthless. Normally I really like footnotes, but this guy seems to be interjecting only to remind you he exists.

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>i'm not shitposting, i'm making up an excuse to deliberately break the board's rules because people are doing things i don't like!
>i'm not shitposting, i'm shitposting with an excuse!
lemme guess your main board is Yea Forums

I guess I could put it like this, a good footnote informs the reader about the world a text existed in, it adds context and alerts the audience to potential human error. The best footnotes I’ve ever read were in the Penguin paperback version of Voyage of the Beagle, which sounds autistic as shit, but I learned so much about Latin American history though them.

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Nope, Yea Forums, Yea Forums and /x/. Really the content of my storytime should have told you that.

>forgot the fucking picture

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>don’t try this at home.
Even if it’s all fake you’ll stare into an abyss of spergery you can’t get your soul back from.

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Now here’s a paragraph that needs deciphering ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. But of course our faithful editor adds nothing.

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>thread about comics in a sea of threads about stupid bullshit
>gets overtaken by mental illness
ok

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Don’t think so highly of yourself. This is just one kind of mental illness shifting into a more patrician form of mental illness.

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Even though this whole book is about the magic of letters I still find some amusement in “looking ahead ET driving”. If influence is supposed to rule this, that excerpt has been rendered useless.

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Not German but Polish. Still definitely same situation here. Shit sales well. From small magazines to big books sold in collection sets. Can be found in most convenience stores or postal offices. Have some from when i was a kid. Pic related

Oops

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Based grumpy old wizard.

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Not German and don’t have time to read the whole thread to see if it’s been pointed out but FUCKING idiot at the peak of Mickey AND Superman’s popularity Superman was banned in Germany by the One True God.

In retrospect I really should’ve storytimed this in an Alan Moore thread, there people might actually take interest in this and have a good time.

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Dont bother some burger that hates that other regions have different comic genres than capes.

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This has nothing to do with capeshit. I’m just sick of lowlife euros pretending to have any connection to the great minds of the past.

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Also
>he thinks American comics are limited to just capeshit

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Sorry, we are not like burgers who still say "my european heritage!!1!".

I’ll be honest I wasn’t actually doing this out of spite, I genuinely hoped some people would be reading along. The general aura of smugness radiating of this thread made it seem like a prime place to do something eclectic and bizarre, but I don’t think anyone is enjoying this. It’s kinda depressing actually.

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I’m miffed by euros in general mate, I’m a fucking spic.

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That’s actually a good point, eurofags wouldn’t be such obnoxious bastards if Americans didn’t help foster their egos by going on about they’re five generations removed from France. Fuck that shit, you’re a mutt like everyone else around you.

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I stg these pages are in order, 125 is just before 124, the text lines up and everything.

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...

???

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Also American comics were always undercut in terms of pricing.
There were more affordable offers for children and more mature comic albums for adults.
Also serialisation proved a hurdle for the money-starved kids in post-war Europe.

I can see I won’t be gathering much goodwill here. Bants aside I’m pretty sad it went this way, I expected more people to jump on this bandwagon and enjoy reading some bizarre Abrahamic grimoires with me. Does anyone know a place that would be receptive to this? Yea Forums bans storytimers.

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>mexican ruins a thread with offtopic shit
what a surprise

>we made the crazy American warlock sad
Truly, this is a wretched website. Hes probably preening burger crumbs out of his scepter now.

Nigga what did you expect. We euros just wanted to talk about comics popular here. One thread isn't much to ask but you just had to fucking jump in derail and takeover the whole fucking thing. This is not a good way to convince us to read your shit you moronic fucker

Just start more threads m8, there’s no fucking limit on how many Disney Duck threads you can make in one day. Moreover, this thread wasn’t really about the books themselves, it was just pseudoinellectual posts about why capeshit exists in America as written by people who had never spoken to an American without the protective barrier of a computer screen.

>just make more threads lmao this one is reserved for rants from a schizophrenic patient from the 1500s
>but also you have to stay here and reply and enjoy them or i'll be sad :((

Still doesn't justify absolute autism level of posting this shit just to spam

He works pretty well when they're doing epic fantasy stuff where he's the straight up good guy too. Star Wars, Neverending Story...you name it.

I said I’m done, go forth and ignore me. I just really wanted to talk about alchemy but I couldn’t find an audience. What do you want be to do, apologize? I’m sorry, it’s an imageboard, this is simply the nature of the beast.

You lot can talk about Mickey Mouse in peace.

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>I just really wanted to talk about alchemy but I couldn’t find an audience.
Well no shit, this is the fucking comics and cartoons board you dumb fucking beaner. Go get yourself raped by some cartel fuckers.

What are you going to do next, spam Yea Forums because you want to talk about cooking? Want to go derail threads on /g/ with documentaries about eusocial insects?

>wants to talk about /x/ shit
>insists on doing it in a completely unrelated thread on a completely unrelated board
I know spics are amerilard levels of retarded but there's no fucking way you can be this kind of stupid and still manage to get past the captcha.

That would explain that its not that widely popular if there is cheaper comics.

Not epic in scope, they are rather short.
But they are grand adventure in terms of setting and themes.
Maybe a bit much colonial romanticism for CURRENT YEAR Americans, but in the end good short stories completely contained within themselves.

Based Mexican witch doctor.

Bump

>who had never spoken to an American without the protective barrier of a computer screen.
Why should i speak with one? Thats why there are articles or books or wikis to read that. When i speak with one they didnt lived in that time nor do they live in europe to be able to compare.
What you propose is just the another coat of paint.
Stay mad. Find the real board. Maybe you are just uninteresting thats why your threads/points sage.
Hope you find your audience.

You talking about the Once upon a time in America comics?

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More like the adventures in British colonial holdings in Egypt or India.
Which is not usually getting into any criticism of imperialist doctrine or British treatment of local populations because the story is focused on entirely different things.
Like one time it's a desert expedition, then it's to the poles or up a mountain or the French revolution, or anything you can imagine, really.
Naturally all focused on the characters and not too concerned with historical accuracy, if actually referencing historical occurrences.
The appeal is in the wide range of stories and immediacy with no barrier of entry.
No one world, no real continuity from other books, just an adventure with familiar characters taking on new roles for this story.