More Metal is always welcome.
Sonic
Thomas Perez
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Connor Gonzalez
Jaxon Morris
Brody Miller
Adam Murphy
Lincoln Robinson
Mason Howard
Julian Wood
Jace Adams
Andrew Perez
Jordan Wilson
Ryder Smith
Adam Lee
Love how cruel the comics make Eggman.
Adam Cox
Wyatt Sullivan
Aiden James
Ryder Hall
Michael Hall
Christopher Evans
Carson Sanchez
Evan Powell
Easton Moore
Tyler Williams
Jack Morales
Ethan Rivera
MOMMY
Jaxson Ortiz
A villain with portals is actually pretty neat, I'm eager what see what future fights are gonna be like between them.
Justin Wilson
If Eggman dosen't murder him first
Lucas Smith
True, Speaking of Eggman, Little sad Mr. Tinkers gone for now, maybe he comes through again in a later date?
Bentley Peterson
As if Starline wasn't enough of a Finitevus ripoff.
James Price
Wait the duck is male?
Christian Flores
No pants. It's a dude.
Owen Lopez
This is in those moments that I miss Sally.
Henry Stewart
And he’s a Platypus I believe
Luke Sanders
Was the previous issue even dumped? I don't see it in the archives.
Carter Perry
Dominic Miller
Grayson Ross
Luke Cox
Justin Bennett
Carter Allen
Camden Bell
Jaxon Hernandez
John Scott
Landon Turner
Robert Cruz
What did Strongbad say? Impressive, disturbing and makes me uncomfortable
Alexander Carter
Andrew Reyes
Noah Lopez
Christian Jackson
Ian Sullivan
Jacob Kelly
Jaxon Barnes
Michael Hall
Juan Sanders
Mason Roberts
Jace Campbell
Wyatt Johnson
Matthew Cox
Jose Gray
Nicholas Campbell
Justin Rivera
Gabriel Lee
It's a platypus. I think.
Jace Nguyen
DULLEST SONIC MEDIA IN HISTORY
Christian Powell
Reminder that Metal Sonic is the best villain in the franchise. Also, Starline looking like he's this shit's boss lol
Also, Silver AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Chase Wright
I want to like Starline but he's just discount Finetivus.
Jaxon Nelson
I think we need a new writer.
Or maybe the current one needs to stop dragging things out.
Brody Russell
I wanted to hold out hope that he wasn't just a copy, but nah, right down to his powers.
Carson Carter
Gotta write for those trades, son.
Anyway, this Eggman feels ALOT like Archie's.
Caleb Young
Pretty bad design for a Platypus, doesn't have a tail or anything.
Elijah Harris
>He's going to infect them with the Metal Virus
No. Stop. Please don't.
Wyatt Ross
Don't worry, Ian surely isn't foolish enough to once more revive an unpopular plot device that undercuts the inherent malleable strength of the franchise's premise, but to also permanently apply it to two characters he's trying to push as beloved recurring villains.
I'm only being a little sarcastic; I'd like to think he's smart enough to not do both.
Carter Morales
He'll do both but it's going to be reversed in both cases since the only way sega'd allow something like this is if it's not permanent
Austin Rodriguez
>Implying Sega cares if two OCs become robots or the comic has some nebulous original threat sitting around.
Juan Walker
the only thing i really like about the IDW comics so far is how much of a bastard they're making eggman
Caleb Morris
This. We know Sonic gets infected, but he (and any other main Sega character that gets infected) will be cured. That's one of the pains of working with an IP, you can't shake up the dynamic too much.
Liam Morris
>YEET
Michael Walker
The first issues of Archie Sonic are WAY more engaging and interesting than this.
Hudson Russell
We need a new writer, but SoJ says no as long profit continues to generate.
Carson Thompson
The first issues of Archie Sonic are fucking great and of much higher quality than what came after.
Aiden Rogers
Yes, and everyone knows that for years already because Ken Penders.
Nicholas Turner
it's too sterile, but such is life trying to work with SEGA's impossible, ever-changing mandates
Nathaniel Powell
Stop blaming Sega's licensing guidelines. They're surprisingly lax overall, just specific in a few places because Sonic is Mickey level iconic. We've already seen enough from this comic to know that this isn't Sega putting a stranglehold on creativity. They aren't stopping the comic from having new threats, new characters, intense action, wacky adventures and weird new gimmicks. This is entirely a matter of execution.
Nathaniel Hughes
The writing is weak at times but holy fuck why is it when it comes to this comic this site is an ADHD mess who continue to scream that things aren't fast enough. Every time I hop into these threads you fucks scream that nothing is happening when stuff is happening and getting set up. What exactly is "Something Happening" to you guys?
Lucas Martin
>Oh. Right. You can't talk as plain old vanilla Metal Sonic.
This line reads like ass. It feels unnecessarily meta when a simple "Why so quiet?" would suffice.
Charles Garcia
This kind of line is everything wrong with Ian and most of Archie take on Sonic character.
Austin Howard
I couldn't resist
Benjamin Hall
>Every time I hop into these threads you fucks scream that nothing is happening when stuff is happening and getting set up.
The entirety of Watchmen happened in less pages than we have right now. We're past half of Cerebus: High Society's page count. The original Archie Sonic, despite being an aimless, plotless serial comic almost wrapped up its gag era at this point and had established its core cast extremely well. Spider-Man was almost halfway through the Ditko era at this point. At 280 pages Kei had joined Kaneda and Tetsuou had broken out of confinement in Akira, aka the slowest motherfucking comic to ever be printed.
The problem is that Ian has a bad habit of setting up for no payoff. We've gone almost 300 pages with most of it being setup for things yet to come or flaccid foreshadowing for halfbaked conflicts. A ton of the first eight issues is just setting up 9-12, but then it fails to actually bother with creative fight scenes or interesting conflicts. It's the same filler fight scenes used in the first eight issues, with absolutely no stakes or unique dilemmas for characters to solve.
That's what people are bitching about. The comic is running in place. It isn't going anywhere. It's all chaff that builds and builds and builds without any catharsis. And before you even try that "oh but he can't because Sega" bullshit, it's really as simple as writing a story with a few twists and surprises. If we instead got a few one-offs/two-parters that were as well considered as some of the old comics, nobody would be complaining about the pacing. It's the absolute drought of quality storytelling while Ian continues to play setup without actually setting anything decent up. Give us an interesting location. A challenge that isn't overcome with the same tired fight scenes. A mystery, or an inter-character squabble that resolves in a unique way. These people are dying for something they couldn't write themselves on a napkin during their lunch break.
Josiah White
Doesn't work if not Knuckles.
Charles King
Boom-Tubes?
Colton Hall
Doesn't help that Ian just ripped off S&K and Heroes for his one year climax.
And no, it's no homage, it's a complete rehash.
Lincoln Cooper
>still no FFs
Aw.
Jason Hall
Never ever.
Levi Adams
Starline seems to be a legit Eggman fanboy (though odds are that's gonna be breaking as time goes on). Part of me also wonders if he also came from the future, if earlier than Silver.
>And before you even try that "oh but he can't because Sega" bullshit,
See, part of me actively wonders because of how the comic's been using stuff like settings.
Reboot Archie was basically a mish-mash of continuites and game locations. Ian even worked some of the more obscure Sonic games into the mix, like explaining that Naugus lost his powers due to the events of Sonic Advance 3 or using the similarities between Blue Coast Zone and Apotos to make the latter part of the former. This was an easy way of world building and it made clear ties with the games themselves.
Meanwhile, look at the locations in the IDW comic. Sure we get the occasional nod/callback like the S3&K zones during one of the Angel Island spreads or the base Starline has Mr. Tinker taken to clearly being Final Egg from Sonic Adventure, but how many of these locations are actually named? How many have something about them that stands out?
There's other areas of the comic that this feeling persists through, but this is one that's immediately noticeable to me.
Cooper Mitchell
If Sega doesn't want them to name locations, that's a pain, sure. Ian's said that's not the case and they'll revisit (and name) Tangle's home town, but he's bs'd fans before. Don't see why they would put a nix on strange locations, though, just naming them because brand confusion.
Leo Evans
Metal be like: Get that crap outta here
Bentley Wilson
Are people actually expecting them to show up?
Nathaniel Harris
For some reason, yeah.
At best, if the book goes another 10 years, you might see Bunnie once or something.
David Lee
Did anyone manage to secure a full digital set of Archie stuff or is it gone forever?
Anthony Harris
>For some reason, yeah.
There's nothing to suggest they are coming back, but also nothing that suggest otherwise. The subject is until so is unclear and not decided yet.
Kayden Turner
It's all up on the comic reader sites. If you're paranoid you can go download it all yourself.
If you're talking about Archie's digital versions of old comics, there's probably a few missing with scans of physicals instead here-and-there. In most cases that's for the better, because the digital inks and colors were pretty bad.
Jason Green
come on Sonic.
Do something crazy
Joshua Allen
What on his design made you think it's a girl??
Noah Jenkins
>Experience you.
Its like he's straight out of those animes where all the guys have roses and the settle things by fencing.
Ayden Young
How about "we've been explicitly told before during Archie that Sega didn't allow the use of elements from franchise spinoffs that had finished, except AoSTH and SatAM since those characters had already been introduced?"
Ryan Sanchez
Yeah, I think the androgeny is kind of the point.
Lucas Evans
They likely want to see Rough and Tumble get messed up as much as possible.
Don't think about it too much or you'll realize 99% of the media you consume is the same deal.
Elijah Hill
You mean with the krud-zu and pink sally?
Gabriel Lee
>Don't think about it too much
I've already learned that when 5Ds shafted Aki for Crow because Konami wanted to promote more Blackwing cards.
Levi Myers
Calling it now, Staline is from the same future as Silver. He idolized Eggman reading about him in history. Starlines interference with the timeline is what Silver has been trying to stop.
Parker Foster
While true, I feel like it's clearly leaning towards them being barred considering what Ian has said on SEGA's feelings regarding the past cartoons. About how they do not represent the current brand and prefer them not to be brought back up.
It'd take new management for that mentality to change.
Jonathan Ross
Not that I don't believe in you, but could you please give me source of this statement?
Tyler Reed
Ian said it repeatedly whenever asked about Underground, the OVA, etc. I don't have a specific statement source right now, it's just something he said often- "we can't use this because sega doesn't want to use this old thing", "we had to fight to keep the freedom fighters after reboot", etc.
Michael King
SEGA really doesn't do itself any favors with this kind of mentality. At all.
Matthew Morgan
Bingo and bingo.
It’s very much more of a licensing/ legal issue than SEGA being ignorant with these; the OVA is somewhere in licensing limbo and Underground was going to get an epilogue by Archie until the whole Pender fiasco happened.
Brody Hall
>we had to fight to keep the freedom fighters after reboot
They are definitely never coming back then.
Jonathan Carter
Eh, I don't view this mentality as bad as some of the other things like Classic characters being barred or the entire two worlds nonsense. I think it's fine to move on from the older licensed material.
I do imagine it stings a bit to see SEGA embrace the IDW original characters a bit more than Archie or cartoon characters ever got in the later years.
Henry Martinez
SoJ, through years, has shown to be an all-around arrogant stubborn company to work with SoA, with americans. It's not surprising (unfortunately) to see SoJ attempting to forbidden anything originating from the states, such as AoSTH and SaTAM.
Chase Allen
You also can't reference Sonic the Comic or the Shogakukan mangas, user. I know you masturbate to WWII anti-jap propaganda but come on.
Hudson Scott
Reminder that
1) Issue 15 and the Annual will introduce the first (non-cover only) artist on the book that has never worked for Archie: Jack Lawrence
2) the Annual and issue 16 will mark Diana Skelly's return
Josiah Moore
A few of them seem to be fine with IDW. Didn't they get one of the Japanese artists to draw Tangle for a cover?
Nolan Wright
The way Ian talks about Sega's relationship with IDW (as opposed to their relationship with Archie) came across as Sega letting Ian do stuff that he wouldn't have gotten away with back at Archie
My vibe is that the only aspect of IDW that's hamstrung compared to Archie (outside of the whole Classic/Modern split) is the setting, and that a lot of other aspects are free-er than Archie was
Sega also seems to be more directly involved; they had direct input on Tangle, Rough, and Tumble's designs, and Ian's mentioned that they've actually suggested ideas on how to go about some of his story pitches (Ian mentioned being surprised that they went with his pitch for year 2)
Dominic Morales
Yuji Uekawa did the A cover for the upcoming annual
Wyatt Miller
>I think it's fine to move on from the older licensed material.
The recent 3D Sonic games move on from the older serious material, and yet, look at how they turn out, and how they were received. Moving on from the older things is not always a good thing.
Austin Parker
>Didn't they get one of the Japanese artists to draw Tangle for a cover?
And Naoto Oshima tweeted he shows appreciation for SaTAM. Your point is...?
And by the way, didn't Yuji Uekawa drew the whole cast of FFs in Adventure 1's style, AFAIK?
Nolan Hill
No. You're thinking of some fanart, if I had to guess, E-122 Psi's.
Adrian Diaz
No, not fanart.
Here, I found this picture. This is what made me assume that Yuji Uekawa may have at some point draw them.
Kevin Cook
they probably got Spaz to do those, given how he can easily imitate Uekawa's style
Jaxon Martin
Ah. Guessing that's Spaz
Brody Torres
Are the robot designs a reference to these skins...?
John King
I think that Nicole is just taken straight from a panel.
Aaron Stewart
I think Ian knows most of the boundaries by now from SEGA's side from his time dealing with them at Archie. The fact that they're more apart of the process now is interesting.
Parker Martin
Ah, my mistake, then.
Yes, true.
Henry Morris
fucking adorable
Austin Morales
>My vibe is that the only aspect of IDW that's hamstrung compared to Archie (outside of the whole Classic/Modern split) is the setting
Still pretty damn stupid, though. This whole "human world/anthro world" thing especially.
Brandon Reed
Amy is cute! CUTE!
Lucas Brooks
Why doesn't the comic just have self-contained stories? Maybe only having miniarcs. That would feel more like Sonic.
Jackson Roberts
Ditto. But I also like how he treats Metal like a precious boi.
Brody Garcia
The platypus tail isn't really a tail. It's storage sack for fat.
Hudson Lee
Because that would be a good idea; and Ian can't write anything Sonic that isn't a SatAM rehash.
Josiah Diaz
Cute pages
Isaac James
Neither Finetivus nor Zachary were Eggman fanboys though
Daniel Martin
>and Ian can't write anything Sonic that isn't a SatAM rehash.
True, and even in that matter, it doesn't feel like SatAM, so what's the point?
Luke Adams
>Ian can't write anything Sonic that isn't a SatAM rehash
He's been rehashing classic and heroes this time.
Ethan Edwards
If people would call out Ian for lying, on several occasions, and pointing out more that there's a fucking higher-up at Sega who has a framed SatAM poster, then we could get them back. Ian's tried to pull "SEGA doesn't own the Freedom Fighters lol" 3 times now, I think.
Carson Nguyen
SoJ doesn't even fucking LIKE Ian. He constantly rubs their balls and they never give him any love.
Tyler Robinson
This. Other people who worked with the franchise have had more freedom than him. Ian must have said something nasty that somehow reached SoJ's ears.
Cameron Sanchez
Hell, it's not even that, I bet. Ian doesn't understand the Japanese work place culture where they won't call you out directly, and he's too autistic to understand that his attitude probably rubs him the wrong way.
"IAN HAS NO FREEDUMBZ"
Bull fucking shit. The mandates that sega puts on him are so small, it's laughable. He has all the freedom in the world, and yet he rehashes the same fucking stories over and over with the same basic elements, and he can't even do it well. How many times has Ian lied or mislead us? How many times has he been a snide prick for no reason? How many times has he promised shit as if it was happening and then it just feel through? Penders had no fucking problem saying what he was going to do with his comics, but it's been
FIVE
MOTHERFUCKING
YEARS
and Ian can't finish lost hedgehog tales? As sad as it fucking is, the only content that ian wrote well was Pender's and Boller's.
Kevin Flores
Wouldn't the mandates be not a huge issue if the comic was more story-centric and self-contained?
Ayden Myers
What stories did he rehash in Archie?
Henry Thomas
By re-hash, I mean the same basic plot elements over and over. This is very noticeable post-reboot; everything is so basic and feels so flat. "Go here, do thing, oops, go here, do thing, oops, go here, do thing, oops," with comedy thrown in.
That's one way to go about it. They shouldn't be an issue regardless, since they're not that strict.
Hudson Martinez
Here's a good example: He did the same crossover with the same basic bitch plot twice.
Brayden Russell
Why did Ian add Tangle and Whisper? What did they even add to the story?
Dylan Moore
Details?
Owen Howard
To be fair -- if you'e talking about Worlds United -- he didn't want even want to do that story, that was something his former editor, Paul Kaminski wanted.
Elijah Brooks
Lesbianism.
Easton Smith
I think he means the genesis wave BS.
Easton Ortiz
That doesn't excuse the direction he took it in.
Correct.
Angel Baker
Simple: he's a yurifag. Remember Sally and Nicole?
Samuel Phillips
That's really cute.
Camden Allen
Do you think this is why Ian Flynn has been stuck in the same position and hasn't been promoted to editor already?
Caleb Phillips
That wasn't even a thing. Ian said it was a thing, but the "threads" were so minuscule and even he admitted that you had to hunt for it...after the fact... Probably because they actually weren't more than friends?
Evan Cruz
Well, I like Whisper well enough - she adds a bit of mystery, and her actual personality is neat and stands out nicely amongst the rest of the cast.
Tangle on the other hand doesn't have much in terms of setting up for the story, and her whole thing is that she's out of her league and she's kind of enthusiastic about everything. I'm less fond of her because she veers a little too close to Sonic at times because her base personality isn't very enjoyable, and unlike Whisper she doesn't have the benefit of having a potentially interesting past or some other neat character gimmick that makes her interesting like having a relationship with Wisps or being a loner.
Julian Perez
strong independent female characters (lesbian)
Grayson Wright
This post created hellfire in the Sonic General on /vg/.
Alexander Cooper
For real?
Adam Carter
Good. May it continue to ruffle feathers. Ian Flynn is a fucking hack.
Wyatt Gutierrez
>Someone pointing out that the emperor wears no clothes makes his sycophants freak out
Who'd have thought?
Owen Evans
>SoJ hates Ian
Where do you guys get this stuff?
Zachary Richardson
Because they won't acknowledge him despite his constant pleas for attention?
Lincoln Diaz
Jason Bailey
>and Ian can't finish lost hedgehog tales?
He's said multiple times he's holding off on it because of several reasons outside of time.
Tyler King
Is that why he said they've been receptive of his story pitches and have been involved with the creative process on the OCs?
Xavier Kelly
Such as?
And yet, according to him, in action, they've done the opposite.
Cameron Smith
>calling Barneyfag
FOR WHAT PURPOSE
Tyler Carter
>unpopular plot device
People say this but I only see that here.
Evan Murphy
Sounds like a Japanese corporation. Say one thing, imply another, do a third.
Austin Davis
How can Flynn-chan make Sega-senpai love him?
Ryder Mitchell
Brandon Wilson
He can't. That's just how most Japanese corporations work. Set off the wrong people intentionally and there's a 50/50 chance they'd never bother noticing you even if you did everything they asked.
David Adams
>And yet, according to him, in action, they've done the opposite.
On some things user. Just because they push back on some things and allow others doesn't mean they hate him, just that they want what they want and don't want what they dislike.
Chase Turner
>Legal concerns
Knew it. His excise when he wants to give the illusion of giving a fuck but doesn't want to do it. Like the "Legal concern" of who owns the freedom fighters.
Colton King
Jason Gonzalez
Ian blames all of his problems on Sega, man. How many times has he impotently screeched "MANDATES" when confronted with his shit writing?
Jeremiah King
Congrats you read two words
Aaron Reed
That's not necessarily a bad thing.
Nathan Stewart
>Ian blames all of his problems on Sega
No he doesn't. When someone asks if X can be in the comic, he tells them Sega doesn't want them in. That's not all his problems according to the people in this thread.
Carson Richardson
Ian always uses those excuses, They're like 85% of the reason he claims he can't do things.
Dominic Gray
Connor Lopez
Uh, yeah, but like, uhhh, Watchmen isn't, like, owned by Sega or anything, so like...yeah.
Easton Campbell
>They're like 85% of the reason he claims he can't do things.
Almost like he works for a business or something. Sometimes I think you guys give Ian too much credit.
Lincoln Nguyen
He's more professional than that. It's his dickriding fans that do that.
Samuel Nguyen
Ian shouldn't be involved with the legal issues anyway, it shouldn't be hard to get an answer back from the company's lawyer, and he uses the excuse way more often than he has any right to.
Parker Rogers
You're right, he just says "Legal issues" and "Behind the scenes stuff, big deal, and I know big deals, complex. Very complex."
Liam Myers
And when he gets all the Emeralds he'll become Boostarline Gold
Nolan Scott
>someone else other than Sonic becoming super
TROO
FACKING
FAR
Adrian Lopez
Just because he gets an answer from legal doesn't mean he can share it with the public. He's not going to jeopardize his job just appease whiny people. If a fan asks him something you want him to just ignore them if he can't give a satisfactory answer? You would be shitting on him for it regardless.
Kayden Butler
Then he could simply say "The legal team said "No." End of story... But it never ends there, because Flynn DOESN'T ask the legal team. If he can say "Legal issues," he can say "Lawyers said no."
Bentley Gonzalez
Sauce? Or just shitposting like usual?
Easton Carter
A distinction without a difference. You're just looking for an excuse to get mad.
Brayden Anderson
Ignore him
he's just a hater
Grayson Reed
Whisper is a cute!
Henry Cook
There is a difference. "Legal issues! Maybe!" is different from "No, I cannot do this." One implies it can be done, the other does not.
Henry Wilson
>Not liking Ian makes you just a hater
Lincoln Carter
>"No, I cannot do this."
And when he does say that but then he does it later, you'll call him a liar. There's no winning.
John Cook
No, making up bullshit does.
Isaac Reyes
Tangle is for the waifufags and Whisper is for also waifufags.
Samuel Kelly
Whisper is really pretty and I would hold her hand if she let me.
Wyatt Long
Because SoJ hates America and everyone in it.
Matthew Hill
Here's my take (I'm the guy who posted ): Year one being a bit bland IS mostly on Ian playing it too safe, year 2 is only 2 issues so far and is already a lot more interesting.
Does this make Ian a terrible writer? Fuck no; his quality ranges from great to mediocre
Caleb Edwards
BLUE
BOOOOOARD
Alexander Robinson
But user, if you bring up something reasonable, admitting Ian's fault for year 1 but acknowledging year2 has promise, what will shitposters have to work with? Try to put yourself in their shoes instead of being so damn selfish.
Xavier Powell
Wish she was an actual character.
Brandon Foster
I always was a fan of skelly's art. Champions was one of my favorite arcs in the archie reboot and that was.mostly hers in the art
Matthew Martin
Hopefully their upcomng miniseries will give Tangle some more to work with.
Also I know people just wanna forget about Sonic Forces, but you know which I feel would be something to tackle in the idw comic? What the hell happened to the rest of Infinite's old squad.
Dylan Fisher
It's a shitposter who's replying to himself, and his stream of misinfo is drowning out actual discussion and criticism.
Jeremiah Wood
Whisper is one of the Jackals. She has a fave that doesn't abide by what Forces says girl wolves look like, she wears a mask similar to Infinite's, She's a trained assassin, she has an extreme hatred for Eggman and she gives Shadow (the guy who sent Infinite down his crazy path) the evil eye.
Aiden Rivera
>their upcomng miniseries
Do we know how many issues it's going to last?
Nicholas James
I hope this is true
Thomas Flores
It's a mini, so between 3 and 5.
Thomas Davis
Infinite was a mistake.
Lincoln Sullivan
Did anyone even ask for this game?
Bentley Long
Hudson Edwards
Ryder Hernandez
Oliver Nelson
Cameron Thomas
Nolan White
Gavin Smith
Austin Watson
Wyatt Flores
David Barnes
Mason Wright
Sebastian Clark
Andrew Johnson
Caleb Adams
The dialogue is a liiiittle clunky because
>advertisement
But I really like how this new writer approaches characters and page pacing.
Jonathan Perez
Kayden Hill
David Myers
Ayden Rodriguez
Blake Moore
>BRAZZERS.jpg
Sebastian Cooper
Jack Lopez
James Edwards
Cooper Campbell
This scripting style really reminds me of old school stuff. Very heavy Bronze Age influence.
Thomas Campbell
Apparently Sega doesn't want them to use Infinite right now.
Zachary Gutierrez
In what way?
Isaac Thomas
Cause it's an unsubtle advertisement filled with corny dialogue
Grayson Rodriguez
Austin Adams
Julian Turner
Jayden Scott
Andrew Hughes
Austin Davis
David White
I was talking more about the story beats, the pace, the way characters are written (supporting cast is snappy, lively, but ultimately pointless and almost act as a chorus; Eggman is much less about menace and is chewing the scenery as hard as he can), the style of intermingling spoken and visually presented writing, etc. It's very pre-Crisis teamup in style, which is an interesting change.
Or we could just chalk it up to being an advertisement despite Ian's own adver-comics reading nothing like this, because why bother trying to think when we can make blanket statements?
Joshua Martin
Daniel Young
Gabriel Price
Julian Miller
Lucas Morgan
bump
Jason Kelly
>despite Ian's own adver-comics reading nothing like this,
Because they're barely advertisements.
Jordan Flores
Yeah, those game tie-ins that recap a game's intro and then tell you to play the game sure don't read like ads. This absolutely isn't a longer version of the exact same thing.
Lincoln Cook
>those game tie-ins that recap a game's intro and then tell you to play the game
Exactly. They don't actually talk about the game's premise or mechanics. Just a cutscene.
Elijah Martinez
Anyone know what happened to Cybershell??
Caleb James
>They don't actually talk about the game's premise
Except the part where they're literally a recap of the premise. Acting like they're not blatant ads done in a different style is disingenuous.
Anthony Ross
>Except the part where they're literally a recap of the premise
Except not. They don't tell you what you're going to be doing most of the game or the main goal, just a story hook. And I didn't say there weren't ads, just poor ones that barely advertise the games.
Kevin Roberts
Thanks a lot fucker, you ruined her for me.
Ian Morris
Good. Go away, Boco.
Adam Kelly
That still sounds dull for a dull character.
Brayden Wilson
And this all happened because Sonic pulled a Goku and had Metal leave when he could been held prisoner and offline.
Landon Rogers
I have trouble seeing this when Ian said Infinite is barred from the comic. Unless he's not going to actually appear, but only referenced -- if that's allowed.
Jaxson Jenkins
yeah I hope his annual story turns out great
Jackson Perry
Rereading one of Flynn's issues from Sonic X. It is quite good, I actually think stricter mandates would help him.
Kayden Barnes
Is it wrong to wish for another Sonic RPG that doesn't end in a cliff-hanger?
Jason Wood
And yet it's probably better than the truth.
I don't know if it's about mandates, I think he's saving all his good ideas for the hope that IDW picks up Archie postboot and until then we're getting "B team" Ian.
Anthony Sanchez
Nigga every time he tries to build something up he gets screwed over by penders either by retcon or reboot. I would be lying if I think this comic wasn’t running in place, but there’s several ways this comic could or now is building up to:
>whisper backstory
>robotization virus
>egg man fanboy betrayal or breakup
Wyatt Gutierrez
maybe he should've learned the lesson by now of "in a licensed comic, don't spend 2 or 5 years doing buildup"
Aaron Adams
>during Archie
>"Too much character drama and bullshit, Sonic should be about action!"
>now
>"Why is everything a fight scene?"
Anthony Murphy
>Either shove my head underwater or never let me have a drink
Noah Carter
But everything isn't a fight scene. I'm just pointing out that people here will bitch no matter what comes up.
Liam Green
bump
Andrew Rogers
What will happen when SEGA tells Ian to stop referencing Forces and start referencing his newest game?
Dominic Evans
When they get a new game.
Blake Allen
Man the art looks the best it's ever been. Props to guys like Yardley and Herms, they've both improved quite a bit from like ten years ago, especially with the page layouts.
Art looks uneven on the Team Sonic Racing one though, went from lookin great to lookin iffy page to page.
Charles Torres
After a certain point, Finitevus was just too vague in what his goals were, and he had a lot more nebulous evil magic besides just the warp stuff. Starline seems much more definited so far.
Jace Barnes
Tina episodes can be good. It means a higher chance of Zeke showing up.
Jordan Garcia
>during Archie
No, that's during Ken Penders.
Benjamin Johnson
i love amy
Lincoln Hill
jeez sally how how mighty have fallen
Carson Gutierrez
Well Bunnie has always been physically stronger than her
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Cooper Morales
>emeroodoods
Zachary Campbell
...
Andrew Myers
Do they sell multiple versions of the digital releases with the alternate covers?
Cameron Thomas
>Vanilla won't be in Team Sonic Racing
John Harris
Vanilla's not in anything. She's forgotten.
Brody James
and it's a bad thing!
Zachary Gonzalez
>I miss Froggy
There's no reason he couldn't have brought Froggy in the car so I assume he's dead. RIP Kermit.
Henry Nelson
More like someone frognapped him.
Ryder Morales
For shame.
Luke Davis
Froggy's just invisible. Plunk your magic twanger!
Kevin Moore
Chaos 6 is the final boss.
Angel Rivera
Best chaos form. Kinda annoyed how perfect chaos throws the transformation pattern in the trash bin just to go full kaiju.
Parker Davis
These comics are shit, but duller than Sonic X? Not possible.
Christian Cruz
Reminder the games never even named her, Vanilla comes from Sonic X (although obviously referencing internal Sonic Team documents anyway, probably same with Chaotix' HQ since Archie got to use it)
Andrew Taylor
Not even Cream is on that game, the roster is a mess but I'll still play it
Jordan Garcia
>Not even Cream is on that game
Something is going one there, Sega has been avoiding Cream for a while now.
Anthony Rodriguez
they're afraid of the cub porn
Austin Scott
The last time Sonic and Silver were in a hospital room Sonic was ready to kick his ass.
Brayden Walker
>Nigga every time he tries to build something up he gets screwed over by penders either by retcon or reboot.
Maybe he should stop focusing on building up to stuff years away when most writers are lucky to get 12 issues before cancellation. Nothing wrong with planting seeds, but it should be secondary to making your $4 comic entertaining on its own.
Jayden Myers
>Nigga every time he tries to build something up he gets screwed over by penders either by retcon or reboot.
Archie Sonic this time didn't got abruptly terminated because of Penders, though.
Juan Carter
>Finitevus was just too vague in what his goals were
He wanted to take Mobius back to a pre-technological age.
Xavier Stewart
He's the one who influenced Scott to pull the same shit
Oliver Cooper
Flynn's a mediocre writer, which was nice in an era that gave us writing quality fluctuating from good to abysmal, but we've had since issue 200 of Archie all the way up to now for him to "git gud" and present a single compelling narrative out of the dozens of arcs he's put together, and he hasn't delivered whatsoever
Oliver Gonzalez
>since issue 200 of Archie
I question why you're still reading at this point.
Nolan Diaz
Ian was only good when he had concepts already built from other writers. That's why nobody noticed his flaws in Pre-Reboot Archie.
Parker Clark
no? She come from Sonic Advance 2.
Mason Brooks
I'm waiting for this mythical "good arc" that all of Flynn's followers have been eagerly awaiting, the one that he'll surely deliver on when all those pesky mandates and meddlers and publishers and other roadblocks aren't in his way
Levi Stewart
explain the people who dislike his prereboot stuff but like the reboot and IDW then
David Hernandez
Yes, but she wasn't named there. Nor anywhere else she appeared in game-wise. The name Vanilla the Rabbit was first shown in Sonic X.
Jackson Stewart
This. It’s why I loved that fucker and Mammoth Mogul
Connor Moore
>Mammoth Mogul
Shame what they ended up doing with him.