>Disney was so sure they were gonna win the Best Animated Feature Oscar
>They printed out ACADEMY AWARD WINNER merch displays for Ralph Breaks the Internet and distributed them to retail outlets
Then again, Into the Spider-Verse was made by Sony, but Spider-Man is a Disney property, so I guess they still sorta won.
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Sports teams do that to in case they win
>hugging and crying
They already knew what was going to happen, right?
Is this your picture OP? Did you see this at the store?
This is why you make sure your checks clear before the Academy announces the winner.
I'm pretty sure Laika never prints up "WE WON THE OSCAR, BUY OUR DVD" retail displays in advance. They know how it is.
The only ones embarrassed are the stores that displayed them
THE CHECK'S IN THE MAIL, BABY!
>Then again, Into the Spider-Verse was made by Sony, but Spider-Man is a Disney property, so I guess they still sorta won.
Nah, that fucked Disney over. Now that Venom made a ton of money and Spider-Verse got huge media praise, Sony is NEVER going to sell the Spider-Man rights back to Disney. If anything, they may choose not to renew their licensing arrangement with Disney for the MCU and try starting up their own Spider-Man film series again. Disney was banking on Venom and Spider-Verse tanking and getting reamed by critics.
May do even less if Nike continues to have blow back from the blow out.
>starting up their own Spider-Man film series again
oh joy.
Will Disney rethink their pursuit of Remakes and Sequels. Nah.
>If anything, they may choose not to renew their licensing arrangement with Disney for the MCU and try starting up their own Spider-Man film series again.
A third reboot? Would they dare?
Ralph 2 was such a masturbatory piece of shit filled with serious storytelling flaws and negative character development, it never should have even been nominated for the award. It was a legit bad movie that only got a Best Animated Film nomination because it was Disney and the Academy generally don't know anything about the animated movies of the year other than what was Disney/Pixar.
Seeing Disney humiliate themselves like this after their loss is just extra rewarding, though.
Ralph Breaks the Internet was literally a Disney movie that celebrates how great Disney is for 90 minutes. They thought it would win the Oscar for sure. The fact that it didn't fills me with *some* hope for the future.
Maybe now they will make something worth watching instead of shitting out mediocre garbage.
Next up on the animated release schedule is Toy Story 4, so I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
Laika's movies all look amazing but have no substance to them whatsoever. They're pretty and that's it. Maybe not as hollow and vacuous as Disney/Pixar movies, but they don't deserve an Oscar, either.
And memes. Don't forget the memes.
>the success of Venom and Spiderverse means they have the upper hand in negotiating with Disney on Spider-Man
>Jumanji 2 overtaking the Last Jedi’s spot at the box office and being a surprise hit
>being owned by a Japanese company means a foreign company like Disney means they can’t be bought out
>making Into the Spiderverse
Absolutely based Sony
>based Sony cucks Disney again
First Venom, now Spider-Verse. What's next?
But what if Disney buys out America and nukes Japan again? All our waifus will die! We should do something. But what?
What I'm betting is that Sony is going to jack up the price on licensing Spider-Man to Disney for the MCU once it's time to renew and Disney will have no choice but to eat shit and write the check. When they first made the deal with Sony, they had the upper hand because Sony was just coming off of the Amazing Spider-Man franchise failures and were desperate to salvage things. Now the tables have turned.
That said, I really don't want Sony go Full Retard again and start greenlighting shit like the Agent Aunt May movie or the Silver Sable/Black Cat movie.
Yeah but that's because they want to get the gear to sell literally immediately after the final play is done. This is just advertising for Walmart, there's no reason to embarrass themselves like this when they can get it out in a week
Sony will put out as many peter Parkers as they damn well please, 3 movies this year featured spider-man characters and none of them were connected, and one of them explicitly included half a dozen peters
But would you say yes to a Superior Foes movie?
>That said, I really don't want Sony go Full Retard again and start greenlighting shit like the Agent Aunt May movie or the Silver Sable/Black Cat movie.
Now tell us about your views on Ghostbusters Answer the Call, The Last Jedi and Captain Marvel, you sniveling little manbaby.
On the other hand, Disney was willing to support ITS with merchandise, even making a pin for their theme parks.
Sony doesn't have merchandise rights. I could see Disney cutting them off entirely and refusing to support the new movies with any merch, or vetoing the TV shows Sony wants to do. They absolutely are that petty.
Not him but what's Ghostbusters got to do with it? Paul Feig and Kevin Feige aren't related. I was shocked too.
>Sony doesn't have merchandise rights. I could see Disney cutting them off entirely and refusing to support the new movies with any merch, or vetoing the TV shows Sony wants to do. They absolutely are that petty.
They did that with X-Men and Fantastic Four and it took almost a decade for things to work out in their favor. And even then, Disney had to acquire all of 20th Century Fox in order to get those IPs back; Fox never sold the X-Men and FF back to Disney because Disney's merch embargos made those brands unprofitable.
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sony is going to do their own live-action spiderverse with all their peters
>disney pays for awards
I guess those faggets are and always will be wrong
Non-/biz/ here, how does making something unprofitable make it harder to buy? I thought there was stuff like stock holders who could force you to sell something if it doesn't make profit.
Didn't Sony announce their own supplement to the MCU called "Sony's Universe of Marvel Characters" or something last year, without any input or consent from Kevin Feige? I'm betting one of the caveats for renewing Spider-Man in the MCU is Sony is going to demand more creative input in the MCU as well as the rights to produce their own movies as part of that series/continuity without Disney/Marvel being able to do anything about it. Sony has them by the balls, now.
Shareholders don't seem to have as much power over the direction of a company's brands as people think they do. Disney actually managed to make Star Wars unprofitable and the shareholders have done nothing to change the direction the brand is taking.
Yes but that's Disney. Disney probably have their shareholders locked up under Epcot and replaced by paid actors. I mean how did Fox get away with not selling those IP's and why did the IP's becoming unprofitable motivate them harder not to sell?
When all else fails, make all else 2
What was so bad about it? How did the characters change negatively and how did the movie celebrate being a Disney movie?
Sony merges with Disney when?
>I’m wearing a rays shirt right now
Feels esoteric man.
I can't speak with any authority, honestly; and Fox had so many fucking problems going on beyond just mismanaging the Marvel IPs they owned, all of which snowballed into them having to sell themselves to the highest bidder. Could be that the trouble with X-Men and Fantastic Four got overlooked in comparison to all the other business issues that were sinking them.
But just to postulate, a legitimate business tactic is to buy or hold onto IPs so that your rivals cannot have them. Corporations will buy the rights to books or ideas all the time with no intent to develop them, but rather to make sure NO ONE ELSE can get them and potentially develop them into something profitable. Other times, they'll keep an IP from reverting back to its original owner by producing a movie right before the contract is about to expire, thus renewing it for another term. Dimension does this with the Hellraiser franchise every 7 years or so; they'll shit out a direct to video movie so that the rights don't revert back to Clive Barker.
It's an actual business strategy that's less about developing a profitable IP and more about making sure your rivals can't get it and do something profitable with it themselves.
Like with Shocker, Boomerang and all the others? That'd be great.
>Disney actually managed to make Star Wars unprofitable
Disney spent $4 billion to buy the Star Wars IP. Within 6 years they earned all of that back in box office revenue alone, not even counting DVD/Blu-Ray and merch sales. It doesn't really matter how disappointing TLJ was, the franchise still prints money.
Sony is a Japanese company and it is actually against the law in Japan for companies to be bought out by foreign entities. Japanese companies either merge with other Japanese companies when they're in trouble or dissolve entirely.
The Japanese implemented this law because in the 70s and 80s they were buying up American companies at a rapid pace in order to destabilize our economy and make us dependent on them. They didn't want any foreign entity to try the same strategy on them, so the Japanese made it illegal for Japanese companies to sell out to foreigners.
It's funny, because all the stuff they were throwing at us (except the princesses) are stuff they just bought not created. So throwing Star Wars and Marvel in the mix to broadcast how they great they were really felt shallow and masturbatory.
Only people who brag about their purchases that much are douches who buy a 2018 Jeep.
What about production and advertising costs? Those Yea Forums shill salaries must add up.
Remember how the first film was about learning your place and make the most of your situation?
The second film is about how it's okay to leave and change your life. Ralph isn't allowed to have this lesson though. His friends can choose their path but Ralph can't and he should be okay with that.
Not even shiting you.
>Sony is producing successful spinoffs
>That means they'll drop all of their plans and sequels to just try mainline Spiderman again even though they're already profiting off the MCU
I doubt that. I think Sony will maintain a relationship with the MCU to keep that money incoming, since at this point the MCU prints money even if they make a movie that is just two hours of a woman slapping herself with a horse dick.
I do wonder if Sony might try to make a Venom-centric cinematic universe. In any case, the Spider-Verse film will likely become its own series. It certainly has room for that, given the multiversal concept and the cheaper nature of animation.
Never saw Ghostbusters but it looks like shit
TLJ ruined Star Wars
Not interested in seeing Captain Marvel
Ya all those star wars toys people arent buying still print money
Don't forget there was a Kylo Ren joke that was cut for the Disney board's direct orders. Apparently it made Kylo to look like a whiny emo boy despite everybody already see him that way
The first movie explained very clearly that "going Turbo" has dire consequences not just for you, but for everyone in TWO games (the one you left and the one you invaded). It causes both games to get unplugged because the humans think there's something wrong with them, either deleting/killing everyone in the game or leaving them homeless for all eternity. It was portrayed as a TERRIBLE thing that only a horrible, selfish asshole villain (King Candy) would consider doing.
Ralph Breaks the Internet opens with Vanillope going Turbo and the movie justifies her choice as a good thing and Ralph trying to stop her as him being a selfish asshole. It completely ignores the ground rules of its own universe that the first film established and then proceeds to have the protagonists do everything the villain from the first movie did. It tries to muddy up this terrible writing with non stop pop culture references and Disney characters cameos. LOOK, STAR WARS! LOOK, PRINCESSES! LOOK, GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY! LOOK, ZOOTOPIA!
It was legit one of the worst-written sequels this side of Highlander 2.
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>A Burns for All Seasons: WiFi Ralph/Black Panther
TFA, TLJ, R1, and definitely Soio's combined box office profits do not equal $4 billion. Maybe half that. Unless you're one of those retards who thinks all the money a movie makes at the box office goes to the studio. Even though Avatar made $2.8 billion at the box office, Fox didn't make $2.8 billion in profit off the movie. More like $1 billion probably.
If anything sony will ask for a sweeter deal. Maybe tv rights? Merchandise rights? Going solo again would be risky, and my idea sound more sure fire profit.
Is it possible to sue Disney for false advertising?
Every retard forgets about Q*bert
Corporations are above the law in the land of the free.
>Sue Disney because a retard used the wrong promo material
His game was already unplugged so there was nothing wrong with what he did
It established that moving into a different game isn't an automatic death sentence by itself. Ralph invited Q*bert, Whatsherface invited Vanellope, neither went Turbo or caused the destruction of their games or the ones they visited
I genuinely think one of these days Disney is going to fall into an Enron-like scandal. They have the MCU but they're bleeding money everywhere and they bet all their cards on Captain Marvel. The system not only allow but encourage fraud but speculation can only take you until some point.
This is just so sad. I love it
Any source on OP's image? Not that I don't believe it's real, just curious as to where it originated
Google only points to this thread and another one, still Yea Forums
Its not about inviting someone it's about humans realizing the game has something wrong with it
It worked out for qubert because his game was already unplugged and he was part of a "secret level" thing
The other is the most popular character in a racing game
"Sweatbox" (a doc about Kingdom of the Sun that the Mouse notoriously keeps locked up, but a few interns manage to leak it online every once in a while) should've been Disney's "Smartest Guys in the Room."
Sue Disney?
Have you noticed that whenever anyone talks about Mickey Mouse slipping into the Public Domain, they always add "if Disney lets it". The Public Domain and Fair Use laws always change when Steamboat Willy is about to lapse in trademark. The government has to get DISNEY'S PERMISSION to keep the law as-is, otherwise they change it to Disney's specifications.
Do you know how powerful the Mouse is?
People have tried, but the Mouse has a lot of resources up their sleeves to screw whistleblowers.
If you sign an NDA, you actually can't report crimes your employer is committing to the authorities without breaking your NDA and therefor being liable for serious financial consequences. EVERYONE who works for Disney has to sign ironclad NDAs. No one wants to risk losing every penny to their name just to report Disney's crimes to the authorities (who will just issue Disney a fine that the Mouse can easily afford, anyway).
They ended the ban. Apparently the LA Film critics association made them kneel by drawing up statements of agreements with other critics associations that they would not consider any Disney film for year-end awards.
Apparently threatening the comfortable status quo of giving Disney anything but glowing accolades was enough to do the trick.
>Be Phillies fan
This is based
This wasn't an employee. This was a reporter for the LA Times revealing that Disney and Disneyland was giving bribes to the local Anaheim government. In retaliation Disney blocked the LA Times media division from any future screenings of their films.
I believe their excuse for that was literally along the lines of "We can't trust the LA Times to give unbiased critique of our movies after this story."
Or: "We can't trust the LA Times to give our shit movies positive reception."
>The other is the most popular character in a racing game
...that was missing for 15 years before the events of the first movie, with apparently nobody questioning that despite the fact that she's printed on the side of the cabinet and any quick internet search could reveal she's supposed to be playable and King Candy shpuldn't even exist
It's a fantasy movie, it makes no sense to try to inject reality into it so hard. If players will question the events of the sequel they should question the events of the original too, so either you're against the whole concept or you accept it due to this funny little thing called suspension of disbelief. In this series they established that players don't question Sugar Rush's roster because of a randomization mechanic, this is an excuse for pre-movie Vanellope as much as it is for sequel Vanellope
I mean, the first movie ends with players thinking glitches are something intended by the developers and that you're supposed to cheat your way to the finish line. That's not realistic at all but it's what the movie establishes, it's not our reality but it is theirs.
This of course doesn't mean you're not allowed to criticize WIR or the sequel, but trying to use real life logic to do it makes as much sense as arguing that Toy Story is a stupid movie on the basis that statistically speaking it's impossible that no one has ever seen a toy move or speak
Remember Ozymandias, I mean the Shelley's poem. Disney is growing too much, spending too much and not making enough money to sustain such a big empire. Also daddy America won't be around forever to protect the mouse. Xi Jinping criticized the Fox merging and Chinese theaters rised their shared on the box office.
I remember reading that due to smart buisness deals with international licensees on Cameron’s part Avatar had turned a profit before it even opened
That shit shouldn’t have even been nominated. Ruben Brandt was robbed, ROBBED.
>at this point the MCU prints money even if they make a movie that is just two hours of a woman slapping herself with a horse dick
uh
when does this open
Is this the Yea Forums equivalent of Nintendoomed? I mean yeah, it's a faceless corporation, do criticize them when they're sleazy, but this makes you sound stupid if anything
The toy sales are down, and disney doesn't get 100% of all thar record shattering box office money.
You are deluded.
They aren't announcing the next slate of MCU films until after "Spider-Man: Far From Home" comes out.
Spider-Man is owned by Disney so if it "won" something is because of the money Disney put. They had admitted they didn't watch other films, if it's Disney the film wins just like that.
Black Panther won garbagy Oscars too
Nothing will change; next year Frozen 2 or Toy Story 4 will get the Oscar no doubt.
It completely breaks the rules of the first movie and bends backwards to make Penelope get what she wants, all while Ralph gets shit on for having the same ambition in the original movie. (When Ralph logically goes, "Hey you made me learn my lesson, don't do this" they then twist into him "being selfish" and ultimately has to apologize to Penelope for her going Turbo.)
Also, the entire movie is a borderline Disney commercial instead of an actual story. The entire second acts basically becomes Disney asking which corporation wants to throw money in to get advertising space.
>try starting up their own Spider-Man film series again
God I fucking hope not.
>this delusion
Spider-Verse was a great Miles movie, but not a good Spider-Verse movie.
It literally tells the audience that Penelope can do whatever she wants after slapping Ralph down hard for wanting the same thing in the first movie.
It's basically the: "All men/dad's are dumb trope" but wrapped in a "He needs to let you go narrative."
Once you realize it, it's a really cynical movie.
hi limited edition pin, i'm dad
>"All men/dad's are dumb trope"
I thought that was Incredibles 2?
My wife Peni is dabbing on Disney.
No, not really
OK, then please provide something more than "lolz no".
Yeah, and then add in the movie's monstrous box office success, and Cameron and Fox knew they had a mega hit on their hands way before December 2009 when it opened.
And then proceeded to wait over a decade to follow it up with a sequel? Without the new 3D glasses/projection tech to propel it with a trendy gimmick, I'm curious to see how well Avatar 2 does on its own merit as a film.
It's absurd to argue that the first movie's message was "accept your place and shut up". Ralph and Vanellope didn't have the same issue, Ralph was insecure about his role as a villain while Vanellope wanted to explore something new
At the end of the first movie Ralph's lesson wasn't that he learned you should give up your aspirations, he realized that his existence/person wasn't defined by the roleplaying of his job. He never aspired to forever move into a different game, he had an identity crisis and eventually worked it out
Yeah, I honestly think Avatar 2 won't make it close to $2 billion like the first one. I predict a TFA to TLJ drop, where the sequel made $700 million less than the first one. Except I think Avatar 2 will drop more than $700 million from the first one, and probably closer to $1 billion. Cameron's going to need to pull off a miracle to top Avatar with the sequel.
>Disney can't sustain
>They had 3 separate movies make $1.2billion or more last year
Yikes.
Disney didn't distribute or make Spiderverse so this comment is false
>they bet all their cards on Captain Marvel
Even if Captain Marvel fails, they still have Endgame which will make 2 bil easy.
Endgame is going to end with Captain Marvel defeating Thanos singlehandedly, Captain America, Iron Man and Thor dying, and Captain Marvel taking their place as the icon and backbone of the MCU (7 movie deal 7 movie deal 7 movie deal 7 movie deal).
Just like how Civil War was a stealth Avengers movie, Endgame is just gonna be a stealth Captain Marvel movie.
>Endgame is going to end with Captain Marvel defeating Thanos singlehandedly, Captain America, Iron Man and Thor dying
Jesus christ, people believe this?
>(7 movie deal 7 movie deal 7 movie deal 7 movie deal)
You realize that's normal for the MCU, right? Hell, even Sebastian Stan has a NINE movie deal.
You're missing the point of what that guy said.
user he was replying to said "Sony screws up all their franchises" as if no-one else does.
i think federal law superceded private contracts.
>Madam President
IT WAS RALPH'S TURN!!!
isn't it because it's the same movie as before? just like Incredibles 2.
You would be laughed out of court.
It's many things.
It's kind of illegal to have a contract that makes you do anything illegal.
It's less about dropping plans and more about having weight to swing around when it comes time to renegotiate the agreement with Disney.
>LOOK, ZOOTOPIA!
I thought Dsiney was inexplicably unwilling to push Zootopia's success.
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"Without saying this is a feminist film, this is a feminist film. We have a lot of strong women with strong voices on our crew from Josie Trinidad to Kira to Pam Ribbon—all of whom were really pushing us to be true to that.”
"Ozymandias" is about the passage of time erasing even the greatest of accomplishments, not about suffering failure due to overreaching one's grasp. The actual Ozymandias (i.e. Ramesses II) was a highly successful king.
Yea Forums has a love-hate relationship with Disney. There are just as many threads worshipping their movies as there are screaming about how they ruin everything.
exactly. its so fucking stupid
>vanellope gets tired of her place in her game and simply leaves despite ralph not being allowed to in the first movie
>she hypocritically goes turbo and breaks the most emphasized rule in the video game universe
>she stays in some game she thought was cool, abandoning her place in her original game and leaving all the people who relied upon her to just accept her permanent departure
>even kids are probably starting to question the movie at this point
>HAHA LOOK RALPH'S FLOSSING
Wrong, fucktard.
>not even counting DVD/Blu-Ray and merch sales.
>I thought Dsiney was inexplicably unwilling to push Zootopia's success.
It seems that way. I was just at Disney World for a weekend and Zootopia had LITERALLY zero presence. I don't think I saw a single piece of merch, and there certainly weren't any characters from it out and about.
Meanwhile, Tangled and Frozen shit was EVERYWHERE.
>have made back 1/4 of their purchase price in just 5 years
Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Even if merch and toy sales are declining, they're still objectively making money on Star Wars. They still have Episode IX coming out, and two theme parks opening this year.
They're going to make their 4 billion back no question.
I don't think you can send display stands as donations to 3rd world countries.
kek. guess I'll finally watch spiderverse by pirating it just because of this then
it's pretty good
>Within 6 years they earned all of that back in box office revenue alone
Shut up, retard.
They don't want to just make the 4 billion back, they want to multiply it. If they do it more slowly than they wanted than it's a failure by their own standards.
If you make only the 4 billion back, you're just breaking even. Do you even understand how finances work?
Fucking this, it wouldn't nearly be as bad had they stick to actual Disney stuff. Hell, House of Mouse pulled that off years ago. But them flaunting the stuff they own just felt tacky and disgusting.
Star Wars is supposed to print money. Marvel has done that plus more at this point.
>that was missing for 15 years before the events of the first movie, with apparently nobody questioning that despite the fact that she's printed on the side of the cabinet and any quick internet search could reveal she's supposed to be playable and King Candy shpuldn't even exist
And that people discovered and is the most popular character in the arcade now. Everyone's going to notice if she goes Turbo NOW, because she made a name for herself.
>It's a fantasy movie, it makes no sense to try to inject reality into it so hard.
No one is asking for reality, just consistent fucking logic.
They are supposed to make back the acquisition money PLUS marketing AND production costs for five movies PLUS a big fat profit. If Star Wars was printing money then Disney wouldn't had cancelled films and toy companies wouldn't be canceling toys that have gone so far into production that they were in preliminary catalogues. The boat is sinking.
>this is a feminist film
>the only thing that matters is what a woman wants, not matter the cost
>responsibilities are oppressive
>apologize, shitlord
Checks out.
>"Without saying this is a feminist film, this is a feminist film."
Nah, I'm pretty sure it made it clear it was a feminist film, niggasaurus.
>Have you noticed that whenever anyone talks about Mickey Mouse slipping into the Public Domain, they always add "if Disney lets it".
No they don't fucking retard.
>”accept your place and shut up”
Wasn’t that also the message of this movie?
Hawhaw, you said ducking!
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Oh my, don't you have quite the egg on your face, ho ho, most embarrassing.
Had Battlefront 2 not been plagued by micro transactions along with that not so subtle inferno squad story this game could've had a good start. Been good ever since Disney told EA to quit their shit when it came to said business practices.
Why was that Spider-Man film so ugly-looking
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>PRESIDENT
Bob ended up getting his shit together though, why do people ignore that?
>but not a good Spider-Verse movie.
And that's a good thing, because Spider-Verse was fucking shit.
>just kill everyone for shock value the fans love that shit
I can see the flip too and they churn it out for more profits.
Disney has no issues with Sony. They hate Fox's and Paramount's gut though. They had no issues with WB until the Marvel buyout then things got personal after BvS shit.
I love TNBC. Jack was like, "well I screwed everything up, but what the hell, I had fun. I'm way better at Halloween anyways"
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Only two characters died and only one of them was a spiderm'n
The movie's called "Spider-man: into the Spider-verse" not "Spider-team" or "Web Warriors". Another appropriate subtitle would probably be "Intro to Spider-verse"
I mean dad's a billionaire. Nike could go under and still have billions. Plus the limited edition shoes are nice.
It sounds like you're thinking of Spider-Geddon, not Spider-Verse. Also, two Spider-Men and one Inheritor died in Spider-Geddon, and said Inheritor was the only one that wasn't an edgy prick (but it turns out that they were abused as kids, so they can't be held accountable).
Spiderverse deserved to win.
Yeah, they're going to make back the money they spent in the first place. That's a given.
The thing is, how long will it take? You don't just buy IPs and then stop once your balance is no longer negative. You have to make more money from the purchase of it to be a good deal.
Disney doesn't just have to earn back the $4billion they spent purchasing Star Wars. They have to earn back to production and marketing costs for all the movies and media. The production and distribution costs on all the merchandise. Etc.
If one of the movies only earns back slightly more than they spent on the production and marketing, and it a toyline shelfwarms and gets clearanced and doesn't even earn back the cost of production and distribution, than Disney isn't making a dent in that initial $4billion purchasing they have to earn back.
I think he meant that if you criticize any of the big six(-1) studios you are automatically a racist and a sexist.
>but not a good Spider-Verse movie.
And this is bad because?
actually, ozymandias is about dropping a psychic squid on new york, killing thousands of innocent people.
Don't forget this
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Actually it's about getting rid of all these stupid stoners and their stoner logic.
You guys are losing track of things. Disney's current model is to zone out all competition. They don't have to make a profit if no-one else is making money at all, they'll basically define the domestic economy. Then they can lock out foreign companies like Sony at will.
That's why we need to do more than not buy their shit, we have to keep the cash flowing away from them while we build our contingency under-ground bunkers and network the NSF.
>killing thousands
To save millions, we've been over this, get a life basementnigger.
Spider-verse was a bad Spider-verse comic.
People just don't learn, do they?
I'm not going to pretend the original first film Wreck It Ralph was good, but does anyone find it disgusting that Wreck It Ralph 2 earned MORE money at the box office?
That was Lucasfilm's doing, not Disney themselves.
So Hunchback II all over again, right?
Incredibles 2 was better
Well, tell me what you think about Wonder Woman, Alita and Bumblebee.
(Not defending Alita, went to see it. Too wordy and expository, could use a serious trim.)
Not even Disney believed Incredibles 2 should have won.
That's not embarrassing themselves autist, it's called hedging your bets. Any company in that position prints "Winner of the Academy Awards" shit even if they think they'll never win, because if they DO win they want to advertise that they won the next day, and spoiler alert: They couldn't make and then distribute that shit in 1 day, so it's done in advance.
You're fucking retarded, they made this shit so if they DID win they could bank off of it, it doesn't mean they knew they were locked in. You just don't fucking understand the basics here. Let's say they are up for 10 different Academy Awards on 10 different years, and win just 2 of them, or 20%. If they make stickers and shit for all 10, it will easily pay for itself from just the 2 that actually won, and then profit as well. If they don't ever print stickers just because the autistic concept of "duh... but they lose 80% of the time!1?!", then they lose money because they don't capitalize on the 2 times they DO win. Therefore, they print stickers for all 10 times, and make bank the 2 times they actually win.
Sorry, you're autistic.
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Lego Movie 2 is literally the opposite of Wreck it Ralph 2.
Lucy learns that she was wrong trying to change Emmet to her liking and that she was actually the one that was being childish.
You can't expect to be right just by girl power alone.
It's fucking cocky to even print them out for a movie that was garbage. Incredibles II had a better chance of winning the award but you don't see Pixar trying to pull that self-stroking shit.
Don't they always print both versions to be prepared? Like the superbowl stuff they pre make and donate for a write off?
Tell me about it, everyone left the theater confused and disturbed.
Buzzfeed/Insta/Tube lady was bizarrely the best character.
Corporations don't have to answer to the law. Are you a commie?
There is no concept of "cocky", autist. They do what makes them money. If they make more money from printing stickers than they make from not printing stickers, it's the right choice because that's free money.
This, yes. There are 3rd world countries full of people wearing clothes with the loser of big sports competitions/presidential elections/ect claiming they won.
IT HAPPENED SOMEWHERE ELSE
Why are you throwing an autistic fit? This has nothing to do with Disney, really.
Reality check, here's what happened:
>Disney printed stickers for this event because if they win it's a surefire massive amount of money, IF they advertise it.
>Disney sent these stickers out to stores in boxes probably labeled "Display on shelves on X date IF Wreck It Ralph 2 wins Academy Award"
>Autist shelf-stockers are too retarded to care and ignore the box words, just seeing the date part
>Autists put labels on shelves
>Other autists pretend this is somehow a bad thing for Disney, and that they screwed up?
I love how sad they look. I get that it's supposed to give the idea of a heartfelt family story, but it takes on a whole new meaning after they lost the award
and Travis himself is worth $4 billion
It was a lousy gamble. They could have saved money & this public headache if they didn't bother with the prints. It is like banking on the white kid in a Maryland high school track meet. Yeah, he's good, but the black kids are faster.
I'm still really bummed WiR2 was such a mess. I thought it would continue the trend of being about arcade/vidya culture but the more we learned about it the worse it became. I guess it wasn't a shock that it was bad, but still.
Most uninspired Disney movie ever, yet somehow did very well critically. The story is flimsy, and it’s clear that the movie was more about the advertising than the film itself. They literally invented the Pancake Bunny and Milkshake Cat trailer JUST to sell merch of the characters. It’s not even if the movie.
Everything about it points to the possibility that it was rushed and had too many rewrites.
It will also age more poorly than any Disney feature to date. Mark my words.
Having worked in retail, these look like pre-packaged corrugates, likely set up by an employee or 3rd party sales rep. Either way, setup is just "take the whole display out of the outer box", and the chances of the person who set it up being aware of the Academy Award winners, especially in animation, is incredibly slim.
When they make great pseudo original animation (see Disney renaissance) they really do set the standard. But modern Disney is riding on coattails of prior IPs and not doing any heavy lifting themselves. It's easy to see the shift.
There WILL be no "public headache" autist, you won't see this on the news or in real life, just on Yea Forums and retard facebook posts. There's no "saved money" either, stickers cost pennies to print.
Let's look at the Academy Awards for Disney's animated movies recently in this image. Huh, most of them win! That means even if they barely double the cost it's still profitable, since they use most of the ones they make. In reality they make fucking TONS of money from this shit, when a parent or grandma wants a kid's movie for a gift, they'll go by the advertising 9/10 times Ithe cheapest movie for the poor people) because they don't know shit about kids movies most of the time. That's a fucking LOT of money they make off of these stickers costing pennies to print.
Ha, thats marvelous.
Bout time they got knocked down a peg.
The mcu is free money for them tho, they get foreign box office rights and do almost nothing for it
So don’t send it out to retail in the first place
Sports teams got away with it for years. It’s no excuse to send the ads out beforehand
You're fucking retarded, the entire point is to have the ads in retail stores where grandma can see them when deciding which movie to get your underaged ass for christmas.
Considering things like Oh My Disney originally being Disney Infinity; Kylo Ren and Mario's appearances nixed because Lucasfilms' autism and Illumination (respectively); and the whole Feilix & Calhoun subplot receiving both a rewrite and then a near complete axing. It's safe to assume there was a lot of forced rewrites and executive tampering with the film.
A new Spider-Man 4 - A dad Spider-Man (Tobey Maguire) fights a new threat in New York while raising his kids and learning to be a responsible father like Uncle Ben was to him.
Yeah, but if they don't win they just send the T-Shirts off to Africa or South East Asia.
>it took almost a decade for things to work out in their favor
It still worked out. If anything, buying Fox was just an opportunistic move. They bolstered the foundation of their streaming service by acquiring Fox's entire library of IPs, got more of Marvel's stuff back, and did so in a way that not only trolled Comcast but spurred them to act like total idiots in back to back bidding wars.
having worked in retail that is not how it works at all. these sort of displays usually come pre set up.
So you're under the impression that the glass cases they store the games in came with a Wreck it Ralph sticker pre-stuck to the glass? That's fucking retarded, this isn't a "display", it's a single fucking sticker. It came in the box with Wreck it Ralph discs with a clear date, 100% chance.
>Dewey Defeats Truman.jpg
Yeah, I have a feeling a lot about this movie wasn't what the creators originally wanted.
is this real? why does it say 2018?
Because this was the Oscars for films that came out last year
Oh that makes sense..sorry, I'm clearly a brainlet.
>yet somehow did very well critically
Disney power is strong
Why do you think that? Doesn't make sense in context.
It's not like Zootopia or Moana had huge rewrites.
Zootopia had one massive overhaul of the entire premise, that's not the same thing as choppily rewriting third's of the movie, scrambling your selection, rewriting a third again, and so on five times.
Frozen
In Disney's defense, the award for animated feature film was literally created for Disney since the Academy refuses to treat animation as real movies and would never give any award to any animated film otherwise.
Disney was too powerful in Hollywood to ignore, so they created a token award in a ghetto category.
What edition of Spider-Verse are you getting on Blu-ray, Yea Forums?
and what? What is your point mentioning this?
Is there a GOTY Edition?
The first animation award goes to Shrek by Dreamworks
So, yeah, who else got SJW male hating vibes from this shit movie, honest injun question?
Watch Lego 2, it's the literal antithesis of this movie.
>But just to postulate, a legitimate business tactic is to buy or hold onto IPs so that your rivals cannot have them. Corporations will buy the rights to books or ideas all the time with no intent to develop them, but rather to make sure NO ONE ELSE can get them and potentially develop them into something profitable. Other times, they'll keep an IP from reverting back to its original owner by producing a movie right before the contract is about to expire, thus renewing it for another term. Dimension does this with the Hellraiser franchise every 7 years or so; they'll shit out a direct to video movie so that the rights don't revert back to Clive Barker.
>It's an actual business strategy that's less about developing a profitable IP and more about making sure your rivals can't get it and do something profitable with it themselves.
that really needs to be made illegal
If you make enough wrong things in America illegal it will just be a crime syndicate paradise instead of a legal corporate (crime syndicate) paradise.
To be completely fair it didn't really become the Disney category until like five years ago. In the first six years Pixar took two. Spirited away kinda counts but only tangentially. 2012 kind of starts a bunch of BS picks that didn't deserve to win at all. The absolute most horse shit year being 2012 when Brave some how won when literally every other nominee was much better.
If you are defending those ideas, you aren't worthy of hearing his opinion.
Hard NOT to win when you essentially control 90% of the competition.
Shareholders are focused on the Fox deal and hear nothing but good news from the upper echelons.
I thought the point of the Oscars was to recognize smaller films so they would be seen by the public, not be extra publicity for blockbusters created by corporations.
>image
reasonable fella.
As the Dutch say, “Even Apelldoorn Bellen.”
(Aka “Let’s ring the insurance company in Apeldoorn, NL.”)
Pretty much this. In order to have them ready to use on a display after the results were announced, they would have had to design, print, and ship these well in advance. There was probably instructions not to actually post them in stores unless they won the award, but clearly this location ignored it. The cost and resources spent on these signs were no where near as high as making victory t-shirts, and thus they wouldn't need to send any to Africa to gain tax write-offs in order to recoup any losses.
>first film, villian is a character who invades another game when his is no longer played
>second film, hero is a character who invades another game when hers is no longer played
In the fiscal year 2018, the Walt Disney Company generated a total revenue of 59.43 billion U.S. dollars, up from 55.14 billion in 2017.
I think they'll be just fine.
good post
Never underestimate the ability of suits to miss the entire point and make retarded choices.
Ralph was less insecure about being the "bad guy" and more uncomfortable with how his co-workers literally treated him FOR being the bad guy; the Nicelanders essentially created the situation that ultimately catalyzed Ralph's venture into Hero's Duty. Ralph even inquired "Is it Turbo to want more out of life?", a phrase which is extremely similar if not exact to one Vanellope used in the beginning of movie 2.
The difference between Ralph's situation in movie 1 and vanellope's in movie 2 is that Ralph's world changed for the better when the nicelanders came to the realization that "Without Ralph, we're doomed!" and stopped treating him like shit: Vanellope is the one that had an identity crisis the moment she hit the internet, there was even a song about it. Vanellope was ultimately allowed to go turbo despite being the main character of her game and leaves Ralph's journey in the first movie in a completely defeated light; it's one of the reasons I hate the second film so much, Ralph and Vanellope are unrecognizable.
That explains Pocahontas.
Well, it gets worse, in that many of the rights holders sign contracts wherein they don't receive any payment until the movie or show based on their IP gets made. So they'll often sign away their IP to a corporation with no intent on following through with the adaptation, losing their creation and getting nothing in return.
Underrated post.
They really shouldn’t have assumed that because the movie wasn’t even as good as the first one
Toy Story 3 wasn't as good as Toy Story 1 or 2, but it got nominated for fuckin BEST PICTURE.
It's made even funnier when you realize that Vanellope left all the other Sugar Rush racers to die.
What a bitch
#believeallwomen #blacklivesmatter #metoo #proudcuck
>people still shop at Best Buy
>that's normal for the MCU
Nope, and these kinds of deal is meaningless. Huge Weaving has sequels in his contract and nothing ever happened with those. Likewise, Brandon Routh.
He killed "half of New York"; about four million people.
That's never been the point. It's just the movie industry (usually retired types with time on their hands) voting on what they think is best. They often vote for horseshit.
Moral bankruptcy is fashionable.