Everything wrong with capeshit comics is on display in that panel.
Everything wrong with capeshit comics is on display in that panel
This one too.
That's more of a specific problem with X-men comics. It's not like every black hero is still battling the white supremacists from their early days.
It seeming to be a flashback, but saying ""two years later" is fucking with me.
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I thought he died atleast once before that
He did. A super mutant killed him but nobody remembers because Tempus made sure that mutant's parents never met.
Actually...I say nobody remembers, but Tempus does. Anyone that's immune to time warps does. Anyone that ever read his mind does. And he was explicitly told what happened by Tempus.
Mutants represent gays now, dontcha know?
It's more fitting too IMO, since your kid could be a mutie and you wouldn't even know, or you could walk past one down the street.
>It's not like every black hero is still battling the white supremacists from their early days.
I think you completely missed the point...
I'd much rather unknowingly walk past mutants or work with them than them making themselves the flaming center of attention, dressed in ridiculous outfits and being obnoxious about how the world hates and fears them whenever they don't get their way.
>I think you completely missed the point...
The point was mutants were supposed to represent oppressed minorities.
Mutants being tracked by the government, seeing no social progress, being constantly on the verge of extinction, and being the most hated thing in all of Marvel to the point where flatscans even side with the guy that NUKED NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY FOR LITERALLY NO REASON over them is kinda sending the wrong message about hope, inclusivity, and forward progress.
What should be a story of triumph is instead just fucking torture porn.
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Fuck, how isn't New York a DMZ spin-off at this point? How do they rebuild all that shit?
>How do they rebuild all that shit?
They forget what they wrote. That blast would have basically killed A LOT of heroes.
Mutants work best when they are a combined allegory of gays and guns.
They've got superpowered construction crews.*
*see Damage Control vol. 1 to 3
(it's not a good comic, tho)
The point is comic characters dying and coming back and it doesn't matter. The point is notes telling you to read another comic to get on touch with what's going on.
>Everything wrong with capeshit comics is on display in that panel.
But Cyclops dying did matter. He was at the end of decades of character development with nowhere to go but new ground.
That's why they killed him. You can' have new ground in comics.
So is Scott still dead? Or alive? Or is kid Cyclops still there?
you can't fit everything wrong with capeshit in a single panel
Tell Marvel and Bendis to stop trying.
If anything, Black superheroes are probably fighting more white supremacists now than ever before. Wokeness is just divisiveness masked as virtue.
Depends on how you want to count the merger with Apocalypse.
Why should fighting white supremacists be "divisive?"
OP here, this is it. That was literally all it was about. Hence the second pic being literally that.
Scott just got brought back to life as Nate Summers yeeted almost all the X-Men. Wolverine just got back from doing something with the infinity gauntlet or something (pic related), so now it's Cyclops and Logan brooding together angstily.
cranky cause you're supremacist aren't cha
I'm not saying it is, per se. But focusing on fighting paper thin white racists to the exclusion of other potential antagonists or narratives just feeds an 'us vs them, whites are the enemy' mentality.
The problem is that Mutants are not allowed to progress. Women got the right to vote. Segregation was repealed. Gays are getting the right to marry. Now we are onto transgendered people getting more acceptance.
All of that happened since Xmen started, and the Xmen are still exactly where they began on their social progress. Because if the X-men ever actually made progress on their goals, it would stop being X-Men. Things are never allowed to get better for them because then you would have to stop making X-men stories.
Mutants doesn't need to represent anything in real life, it's a already defined fictional universe that don't need anchors in real life since the 80s
Also, Scott and Logan acting together again made me smile
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Because that would be oppressing the white supremacist, and is therefore white genocide. If /pol/ has taught us anything, it's how fragile sexist racists are when something can be as negative about them in any way.
Are you implying that white people aren't the overwhelming majority of racists in Western civilization?
>yeeted
get out
You're right, I apologize. The past tense is yote. Nate yote the X-Men.
Thanks, yellow* box. I wasn't sure what they were referring to by "Several Months Ago," but now everything makes sense in context.
Whether or not they are an actual population majority of racism doesn't matter, they are the ones that are in a position to exercise systemic racism and they are absolutely terrified of anyone else being in a position to do the same to them some day.
No one really cares about, for a hypothetical example, Chinese racists in western civilization. They are around, but they are not the ones writing the rules so their racism doesn't have far reaching consequences. White racists are, so their racism does.
Not even close.
What racist politicians are there and what racist laws have they passed lately? Please explain how said policies are racist.
Would you prefer we start with voter suppression, gerrymandering, immigration or travel bans? There's a lot to unpack for each one of those, so I just want to know which you want to hear about the most.
Travel bans aren't racist, you're being Islamophobic.
>There's a lot to unpack
>There's a lot to unpack
Yea Forumsmblr detected, opinion instantly disregarded.
>hurrdurr ur not falling for my trap in which I play stupid and ask you to define, describe, and relate everything together while I sit back and just say "no it isn't/doesn't/won't" instead of any actual refutations.
>ACKCHUL REFUTATIONS
There's nothing to discuss you're Yea Forumsmblr your opinion is worthless.
americans were a mistake
I'm not even the person who said unpack, I'm just pointing out the common non-debate tactic.
Oh, and I'm a gamer that hates women and minorities, so nice Yea Forumsmblr radar you got.
I hope you never realize how bad this makes you look to instantly scramble away from an actual discussion like this.
No it's quite simple, I do not interact with libshits nor do I permit them to interact with me. This interaction is concluded.
>I do not interact with libshits nor do I permit them to interact with me
Golly, that sure doesn't sound like someone who is secure in their ideologies. Almost as if they are held for emotion instead of reason, and one realizes that debating them (or just thinking about them too long) would expose you to cognitive dissonance.
Whatever happened to the open marketplace of ideas?
Keeping out third-world criminals isn't racist.
>Whatever happened to the open marketplace of ideas?
It's more that my time is valuable to me.
...then what the fuck are you doing wasting hours a day on Yea Forums?
Shh, don't challenge his ideas, you'll make him feel small.
Morrison got booted out in part because he was trying to do that, with mutants becoming like gay popstars people emulate and being a mutant being cool and so on.
...And now Nightcrawler is a tv star.
But Jemas is also out, and he seemed to be the guy who made Morrison decide never to work for Marvel again, so maybe it was his fault.
>somehow the NuHumans are considered good guys
>Golly
>(You)
That's the problem with all long running comic books desu. E.G. there's been 80 fucking years of Batman comics and he's still fighting the Joker over and over and over again no matter how retarded it is for both to still be alive. Spider-man needs to be a young man with relatable young man problems forever and if he dares advance in his life and lose his elderly aunt and get married or anything like that it's deal with the devil retcon time.
>The First Time Scott Summers died
How to drain away all tension: 101
>assuming everyone from a certain ethnicity is a criminal isn't racist
hmmmmmmmmm
>anything other than open borders is racist
hmmmmmmmmmm
>assuming everyone from a certain ethnicity is a criminal
That's not reflective of reality and you know it, but pretending otherwise lets you be smug so carry on.
>the only bad racists are white racists because...reasons
stupid nigger
Racist Chinese aren't a western problem... For now.
Meanwhile, racist Mexicans are really a problem kek
white people are the overwhelming majority of people in western civilization
You're so close to an epiphany it's scary, just connect the dots.
There isn't a single racist person who doesn't believe their brand of racism is justified and everybody else's is wrong.
"Every X-men story is the same"
I thought that was funny too.
How does a ship half a mile wide, weighing tens of millions of tons, travelling at several thousand miles per hour, leave buildings intact just a couple of hundred yards from its impact zone? This shit would make tsar bomba like like a firecracker.
X-Men post social progress is My Hero Academia
Can you explain? I dont watch cartoons
Not even true.
Scott died in the Bendis run. Scott died in the Whedon run. Scott died in The Twelve. That's just in the last 20 years I'm sure there was some 90's fuckery that I've forgotten. Scott has died again and again.
Writers don't count most of that. It's like how in Endsong Wolverine kills Jean like 15 times on one fucking page, and X-writers say she only died twice.
In that anime, people who are basically mutants started appearing, civilization effectively collapse and rebuilt itself and now everything is back to normal except 80% of the population has a superpower that most never bother with.
Magneto was right but still would be in prison.