The Dragon Prince

To find their mate.

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Whatever.
This fucking shit is an ATLA rip-off with a medieval theme.
Prove me wrong, ATLA widows, you suck like your lifes

yes and they have knives for ears. I also heard they drink human blood

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>his fucking shit is an ATLA rip-off with a medieval theme.
one is a story about a main character trying to become stronger so he can win a war, the other is a story about a group of characters trying to form a peaceful resolution to a war. The treatment both shows give their villains is also very different as is the role the magic system plays in the plot

>Why do Elves have horns?
Handlebars.

10 bucks says Elves are just humans that mixed with dragons so long ago that it's left everyone's memory.

>Elf Chad walks up and smacks Rayla's ass
>Callum tries to defend her honor and Elf Chad literally headbutts Callum into the ground
>Elf Chad walks off with Rayla and proceeds to breed her
Callum doesn't even have horns, how could he compete?

>spoiler text
Go on...

>people who misunderstand everything and can't read between the lines.
When people do that, though, they immerse in their own headcanons and begin screeching and lashing out when a series doesn't confirm them.

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Or maybe a way to resolve conflict.

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speaking of horns how will Callum hide the fact that he not an elf?

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Maybe horn-shaving is a thing in Xadia that some male elfs get, like a circumcision. There will be jokes about how Callum is the Xadia equivalent of Jewish.

The border squabble is a chicken and egg thing.
Both humans and elves are gathering at the border in retaliation to each other's gathering.

Headband with wooden horns. Wearing the hood over them hides the fact that they're obviously fake.

>a human fucked a dragon?
Oh, they fucked him alright

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Is there ANYONE in this show, anyone at all, that Viren is not shipped with?

He won't have to, they're accompanying the Dragon prince, so that's his amnesty, once we get over whatever the fuck Soul Raygun is gonna do to them

>Elf stacy walks up and smacks Callum's ass
>Rayla has to defend the honor of her useless human friend
>Eventually they both get tired and just decide to share

Oh my.

Rayla and the Loki queen

Wolf loli?

>Literally butting heads over a man

I just realized, if Callum connects with the moon arcanum he will be abel to use Lujanne ghost magic since he already saw it once. He could see what happened to his dad, or solve mysteries

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Cool find, care to elaborate for the rest of us?

that wont stop Callum from "falling down the stairs", it will be better if he lay low

Illusion lady elf could show up to give him horns and ears.

Are you implying that Rayla will physically abuse Callum?

Im implying that if what the other user said is true and bringing the dragon prince back will somehow give Callum a pass, it wont stop that dont like humans from murdering him in his sleep and faking a accident

I think he's implying some elves will try to kill a human in their midst and attrbute it to an accident, much like Soren's cable ride, but vicious and more thought out.

>tfw you may start getting memed into the fucking dragon folk since many humans tales has polymorphing dragons into humans for reasons:
discord.gg/S7Ecxtb

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or watch Rayla and Claudia wash themselfs, seens like a better use if you ask me

That pic looked like something else from the thumbnail, glad it's just wholesome ear rubbing.

Lol who needs polymoprhing, just skip the middle mans and fuck the dragons in their true form like a real man

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Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis.
There's a puzzle towards the end of the game where you have to walk across stones on a river of lava. There's also an item in the game called the Moonstone, but it has nothing to do with that puzzle.

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>Using Kaiba as an example when Blue Eyes is the representation of her past human self

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Pseudo elves.

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>some elves have a pinkos fetish

They're just so cute.

No it won't. Almost ever stereotype she makes is laughed at and responded to with "HAHA! THat's so TRUE!"

What the fuck is up with those hands?

There are 3 of them.

Yaoi hands

What bugged me is Rayla giving shit about picking slightly faster routes when she's the one who recommended they sail, because it's a slightly faster route.

Get twig horns, change skin color a bit with some dye... idk berry juice and solve the extra finger issue with Rayla's blade.

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The girl forms are just autistic cosplayers, Kaiba only accepts genuine dragon cloaca

S3 is Xadia and from what weve seen they are incredibly xenophobic so hitler elves might not be too far off. Rayla's casual racism might get called out when confronting much more malicious nazi elves and dragons

Rayla will just tell people he's her emotional support human.

>he doesn't have a bundle of snakes in flesh tone gloves for hands

Funko about the anime but in the manga Kaiba's obsession with the blue eyes was because his past life self was in love with the girl who summoned it.

I'm still waiting for half-elves, Ehasz

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>Rayla and Calem pass a half elf
>Huh, guess er kid would look sumthin like that?
>What?
>Wut?

Am I the only one still rooting for Calem and Claudia?
Calum and Rayla are cute, sure, but I've always favored first girl as best girl.

Finally. I dig the cute Rayla/Callum art, but they always forget about poor Zym.

I prefer the chemistry that Callum and Rayla have, romance-wise. Claudia doesn't really feel like relationship material, more like a best bro

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Too cute, and yes for half-elves!

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I do think that right now the writing is siding with the elves & dragons just a tad, but there's enough discrepancies to feel like an unreliable narrator and I suspect we'll see more of their darkside when we spend time with them.

Or at least I hope so. I've been burned many times before.

I don't know if it's a magic thing but in one of its settings, it's a Magic thing.

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Viren is just this show's Starscream with more good intentions.

Would Rayla still hook up with Callum if he was guy?

for sure; Rayla's humansexual
the question is whether Callum would be down for it or not

>we could have gotten the rare bred of reverse trap
> scenarios where Callum gets jinx because He thinking of Rayla as a dude

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That's a girl

I was actually thinking about using this design for Rayla and Callum's offspring

I think Littlefinger would be a far better comparison, but even that's slightly missing the point of the character. The overall theme of Dragon Prince is a pretty generic 'you shouldn't hate those who are different, let's all get along' liberal garbage; but the way that it goes about it is what makes it interesting. Normally, a character like Viren would be portrayed as pure evil, with zero redeeming qualities or justifiable reasons for hating those who are unlike him.

Although I cannot find the picture right now, there is a credits doodle in season 2 that shows Viren sleeping in his chair while waiting for something to happen in the mirror - and that's a good way to encapsulate everything about what this show is doing differently with its main villain. Yes, he does hate people who are different and would do all sorts of underhanded and outright murderous things in his quest to build his base of power on the corpses of genocided elves and other magical creatures; but Viren is still human. He doesn't just have children (which most similar shows would use purely to convert to the side of good), he has moments of weakness. Moments where he's just fallen asleep waiting for something to happen. Viren doubts and fails as much as he plots and succeeds. He isn't a 'Starscream' or a 'Littlefinger', although he is certainly a traitorous vizier; but rather he's the show's way of showing why conflicts like this - both in fictional worlds and in the real one - not only happen but self-perpetuate. Because that's a lesson worth teaching children. Not 'we should all accept our differences and just get along because only mean evil people stop us from doing it', but instead 'maybe the cycle of mistrust and war is too hard to stop, and we have to learn how to deal with people like Viren in our lives, especially when we ourselves are acting like Viren'.

I wouldn't call Dragon Prince a super-smart show, because it's often too irreverent to be that, but it wants to be.

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>Why do elves have horns?
They're not horns, they're handles for sex doggy style.

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>they immerse in their own headcanons
I think you mean hypothesis.

Ha, can't wait for Callum's elf impressions

>OH, YES FELLOW ELF, I DO ENJOY MY FAR SUPERIOR LIFESPANS AND INNATE MAGICAL ABILITIES. NEVER WOULD I BE CAPABLE OF IMAGINING MYSELF AS BEING WITHOUT SUCH THINGS, AS THOSE DIRTY HUMANS ARE, BUT DESPITE THESE ADVANTAGES EQUALLY NEVER WOULD I CONSIDER THAT THOSE LESS ADVANTAGED MUST WORK HARDER AND IN FAR LESS ETHICAL WAYS THAN I DO FOR THE SAME ACHIEVEMENTS

I don't get the impression Viren even hates elves. He just thinks of them as the people of an enemy nation.

Yes, but not just defensively. He also wants to plunder Xadia for magical shit to use in his dark magic.

>Oi, that ain't- yer just havin a laugh now, aren't ya?

>Elves have a sense of humour?

I expect him to have a perspective in line with most patriots in a Medieval society, that is to say anyone not of their race/culture are barbarians which seek to destroy the only true civilization on the planet. It's not very nuanced. There is nothing like ideology or scientific racism complicating things, those are all modern concepts.

Although I guess you could consider black magic an 'ideology'.

probably evolved from goats. That's why they're probably herbivores too.

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Is Pinhead going to show up anytime soon? This prequel sucks more than the last one.

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is shaped like that for a reason

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Why didn't Claudia kiss him and instead brought up his father's death at the worst time?

Because she probably felt like she was taking it too far leading him on and the guilt of her doing that + his dad being dead and him not knowing it built up inside

A hypothesis is something you try to disprove

Never watched Sailor Moon but I just figured it out

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I mean, I was talking more about the shipping/having weird Dom/Sub subtext with everyone but yes, that's true.

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Isn't that a theory, retard?

Probably because I replied to the wrong post.

Hoomans

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Best girl.

>taking it too far leading him on
Her reciprocation seemed very genuine

Theories can't be tested. Educate yourself and apologize

To be fair, Viren actually has the justification of the Elves and Dragons having forcibly displaced the human population.
His actions may be wrong but his outlook isn't irrational, especially being the Dark Magic stan that he is.

Another smiled Yea Forums failed to protect

White hair Claudia when?

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soon, since I doubt that dragon horn wiil get to Viren

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She's going to figure out a dark magic spell to restore her hair color.

>Look Callum, my hair's white now, just like that elf tramp's. Am I pretty now?
>Should I cut a finger off each hand? Because I totally can.
Broken Claudia is worst Claudia.

Alex Jones just comfirmed elves are real

it's funny because Callum probably wants to bang Claudia he just can't because of the chastity cage Rayla's been keeping him in

You mean handles so you can better direct their oral ministrations.

A five fingered hand has four gaps between the fingers. When holding hands this leaves one subject's pinky outside of the grasp and vulnerable to attack. If one subject only has four fingers, both hands mesh perfectly with no wasted or exposed digits.
Raylum is clearly the more efficient and superior handholding.

>Cage
It's obviously a magic ribbon that tightens the closer he gets to orgasm. Elves are magical and live extremely long lives. They've obviously mastered degeneracy beyond human's mundane means of Sado-Masochism

Or a magical ribbon that they put about the waist of them both, pushing them closer and closer so that they can't avoid a creampie inside during the sex that results.

You don't need a ribbon for that. Rayla has been going though "assassin" training her entire life. Her leg lock is quite inescapable.

>It's customary for an elf couple to employ an oath binding around the male's genitalia during the first coupling. If the male cannot bring the female to climax he is deemed an unfit partner and the binding will continue to tighten until their member falls off.

Sometimes you want to make absolutely sure that they don't and can't pull out.

they really don't get enough humor/flirting out of pointing out how much stronger than Callum Rayla is

Something to grab onto during.

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I love Dungeon Meshi.

Lorwyn block had zealoty elves. Green Black, if that means anything to y'all. Unearthly beauty, but when someone saw under their glamour, they were hunted. Also would go out and purge the ugly folk.
Good block.

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Yandere Claudia would be better
>Don't worry, Callum. I know that elf's been working some kind of magic on you. This potion should keep you docile until I figure out how to reverse it. Your higher brain function may be impaired, but we can still have some fun, right? Just like the old days.

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Callum is going to be the most annoying fucking mage to have to fight. Every time someone casts a spell at him he'll be able to just go 'oh, that's cool!' and launch it right back

It's going to be great

Callum real dad was an Uchiha,

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Abysmal taste

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would only work if Rayla saves Callum
Claudia is a cuck

you forgot the part where either the spell hitting him or his attempt to use it back triggers another fever-induced trip with visions of dead family members to help him unlock the next arcanum

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>Theories can't be tested. Educate yourself and apologize
Get your headcanons out of this thread.

This post is probably my favourite thing in this thread.

>Aaravos' voice
W-wew

Aavaros asmr when

I love this shit, wizards that are badass by being a good student are my jam.

Callum is for Rayla

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honestly, they're the only animated ship that I've liked for a long time

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LEWD

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what if elves found the round shape of human ears sexy

Rayla's ear deeply penetrating Callum's when?
>Do elves really like this kinda foreplay?
>Aye, now suck my horns.

>Rayla why are you asking me to polish your horns so much?

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I wonder if Elf Callum will have Rayla give him facial markings. could be a fun, cute moment

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Hey did all of these guys die or just four of them?

four and a half
Rayla lived, Runaan got coined, the other four are gone forever

I think its implied that Viren put them in coins and then crushed the coins. Maybe in front of Runaan.

i wonder if elf callum will give rayla lady boners

Do you have a AU headcanon?:
discord.gg/S7Ecxtb

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In my AU headcanon Callum is friends with a kid that has great elemental powers and that kid grows up to marry Callum's sister.

Aaravos goes to rave parties and fucking kills it on the dance floor

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Do they actually become a ship, or is it just wishful thinking?

If you aren't caught up yet, I'm not spoiling shit

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>make me horns, the big horns.

Woah dude, Nickelodeon should greenlight that shit.

I love this.

So what are the odds that they pull a Starco and draw it out so long that by the time it actually happens in canon, it's been ruined?

>that amused face from callum
god I love the dynamics from this show and ATLA

Why must good people suffer?

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because Amaya's worth it

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Please don't remind be of that show. That literal cuck queen of a creator had to ruin everything.

Why not both? Why limit yourself to one kind of sex with your waifu? It's all fantasy anyways.

Well Gren's free now at least - we saw the soldiers heading down through the secret library door to Viren's hidden dungeon.

Soren is a hockey god.

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He would have the BEST drugs.

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[SNIIIIIIIIIffs]

I imagine he stays positive by picturing every night what General Pixiecut is going to do to Viren when she gets back and gets her hands on him.

It's not the main draw of the show here like it is in Star Vs. If Callum and Rayla got together halfway through the show there'd still be a plotline for them to deliver. If Star and Marco get together people lose all reason to follow the show in the first place, goodness the villains are already disposed of.

Why is she so perfect?

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Callum is for getting gangbanged by a pack of Sunelves and getting addicted to their sizzling hot cum, like the twink slut that he is.

kill yourself

Just gonna say nice to see some horned elves again. Most people settle on a different type of "horny".

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You are not worth of her love. If you truly love her you'll accept her habits but you don't love her for just that.

>Look Callum, my hair's white now, just like that elf tramp's. Am I pretty now?

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Rayla at the sea
Pretty as can be

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Aaravos could talk the pants off a straight man.

That pic always reminds me of Vert.

what do you mean could? he already has.

> that fucking final post he made
> the absolute anal reaming that followed.

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Kinda nuts how much a threat Soren can actually be when he's not being such a fucking goof.

Honestly the villains are on point in this series.

I hope Soren get's his dragon, and the adrenaline high is everything he expected it to be, but knowing the show I'll settle for it being a "Hollow" victory for him.

Likelihood of rape if left alone in dark alley:
>Rayla (0.5%)
>Claudia (5%)
>Ezran (25%)
>Ellis (30%)
>Soran (50% if crippled)
>Callum (95%)
Just sayin'

Quick question, what if the Dragon Prince died? I haven’t watched the show yet.

All elf men are twinks. Now those sun elf women on the other hand... They look very aggressive, I wouldn't be surprised to see a group of them dragging a man or two off behind a shed somewhere.

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Why is this show so boring?

Ramming a planet into another planet is really cool.

Rayllum? Cayla?

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Rail 'em.

Why is Viren so hot?

That's a bit of a twisting of the claims. People are saying that the show clearly wants you to believe these things, but portrays them differently. It's a frustrating disconnect. Everyone says how evil dark magic is, but it isnt portrayed to be evil, and that's frustrating.

We'd be back to episode one basically, where Elves are gathering to attack because they think he's dead. Watch the show, retard.

the people also think elves drink blood, I dont think is a bad thing to see the way the people think in the show and the way things actually are

It is portrayed as doing dark things for a quick fix. It is portrayed that doing things the quick way isn't a good idea and you should do things the slower, correct way. In all the big instances Dark Magic has caused more harm than it has helped. It is a slippery slope from killing butterflies and such to going for bigger things to solve your problems. If you rely on it for everything it also pigeonholes you into never looking for alternatives.

That's not really what I mean. The show wants you to believe that elves are the good guys, they're in tune with nature and magic and they defended what's right in the last war and so on. Bad things about elves like them drinking blood are proved false, but bad things about humans like when Human Rayla says humans are greedy and selfish and violent is agreed to and never disputed. The show is clearly on the side of the elves.

BUT, that's not really how they're portrayed. Humans cross the elven border and are attacked immediately by gsunfire elves. This is seen as justified, we're told a few times the humans werent supposed to be there and the elves would be mad if they found out, Amaya was attacked for just walking alone. But what happens when elves and their allies cross the border? The dragon crosses and its passed off as a terrible thing that humans attacked it. Rayla makes a huge deal out of defending it, like the humans were wrong to do the same thing the elves were right to do. That's how they're portrayed.

So you see its disingenuous to say "people say elves and dragons are portrayed as saints who did nothing wrong" when really people are saying "the show keeps tell us they're saints, but keeps showing us they're not. I want a consistent narrative and a show that wont lie to me." Its the same with dark magic, same with a lot of things. The show wants you to believe things but wont show you why you should believe them.

It's not quick. You have to study for literal years and sometimes go on an entire quest to cast one spell. Nothing about what you're saying is correct.

because he's the hero we need

WITNESS ME:
discord.gg/S7Ecxtb

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You have to study for years to do the really hard stuff, but the little stuff has been shown to be easy to do. They have said multiple times in the show that it is the quick fix. And not everything requires super hard to find spell components. Hell Claudia was using bugs and easy to find things for most of her spells until now. Even then the deer aren't exactly hard to find to bring someone back from being paralyzed.

>humans are greedy and selfish and violent is agreed to and never disputed
thats disputed by te character in the show, like the captain or the veterinary guy, most humans in the show are shown to be good people. the only perspective we have on the elves comes from Rayla. maybe thats will change after we meet more elves
> The dragon crosses and its passed off as a terrible thing that humans attacked it
Again that comes from Rayla, I like to believe the show trusts the viewers inteligence to know the dragon crossing the border was a bad thing, and Burnig the village is not justifiable. What really comes as bad is Soren getting ahead of himself, theres is a difference to attacking some group of people invading and attacking a flying fire breathing tank.

For me, it's Callis

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Rayla seducing Callum like a true scott when

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What ever happened to Soren's and Claudia's mom?
Was it ever mentioned?

watch the show man

The real reason Harrow distrusted dark magic. Viren's MPREG fetish really ruined the King's perception of his vizier.

>Rayla seducing Callum like a true scott when
So she's gonna get drunk, get into an argument with about soccer, try to confess to Callum in unintelligible, slurred gibberish, get frustrated when he doesn't understand and glass him?

yes

Then they wake up somewhere they don't recognize, bloody and bruised, and Rayla will be pregnant.

No, the quick fix is to hold an orb and say a word. This is exactly what I'm talking about, they say one thing and do another.

>thats disputed by te character in the show
If you think this is a counterpoint then you arent reading what I'm saying carefully enough.
>Again that comes from Rayla
Rayla isnt real, user. The same person writes Raylas dialogue as writes Soren as writes the narration. It doesnt come from a different place, it comes from the show.

>They have said multiple times in the show that it is the quick fix.

And shown the exact opposite as most people can't use dark magic without studying it. Also human don't have any other way of using magic so for them it's not a quick fix, it's the only option.

>I like to believe the show trusts the viewers inteligence to know the dragon crossing the border was a bad thing, and Burnig the village is not justifiable.

Then Soren should have called Rayla out on this. Especially since it would have led to actual character development.

Either that or the usual mating ritual of throwing haggis into an open fire and bathing in iron bru before screaming FREDOM and commencing the fuck fest.

Dont let the small horns get you down

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imagine

King Harrow basically spells out the moral lessons of the show. It's not about Elves=Good/Humans=Bad, its about how BOTH sides want to do things--seemingly reasonable things--that perpetuate the cycle of violence and mistrust, and our heroes, a mere handful of characters, represent the only third party looking for a peaceful alternative.

In show frowns on Viren's shenanigans, but it also condemns Runaan's assassination plot.
Additionally, Viren's ideology that an omelette requires breaking some eggs is counterpointed by Harrow's assertion that if one is willing to break eggs, they should be one's own eggs. In other words, sacrifices are necessary, but you should only sacrifice that which is your own thing to sacrifice. And it is worth making sacrifices rather than taking shortcuts that lead to long-term problems.

Viren sacrificed one magma titan to save 10,000 Durenians, where Harrow would have sacrificed 5,000 Katolisans to save 5,000 Durenians. But that would have been the end of it, whereas Viren's "shortcut" has led to continued violence, and we stand at the brink of a war that may yet risk 1,000,000 human lives, to say nothing of elves and their ilk.

I feel like the thing with Soren and the Dragon is being misinterpreted. It's not that Soren's a monster for trying to murder the poor innocent dragon. The Dragon was just as guilty of brinkmanship as anyone (indeed, more than some) and is partly to blame for the situation escalating. But the narrative lesson here isn't about Soren OR the dragon, it's about Rayla's choice. She has the option to pull a "For the greater good," a la Viren, and sacrifice the dragon for her quest to return Zym safely home, but chooses instead to sacrifice (or rather, RISK sacrificing) her own quest in order to do something that will end a (not "the," but "a") cycle of violence and retribution on a small scale.

Yeah what he said.

Additionally, Harrow rejects Dark Magic, not as evil, but as a shortcut that leads to lasting problems. Sacrificing magical creatures to do what you yourself cannot, which then leads to noticeable deterioration of the dark mage.

Also, regardless of whether Dark Magic is truly bad or not, it is believed to be by a significant enough portion of the population (almost all elves, etc., and even a lot of humans) that practicing it creates problems. It's what got the humans Trail of Tears'd in the first place. It's what triggered the last war. Etc.

Callum is the one who realizes that one can risk sacrificing oneself to achieve true primal magic. A shortcut by no means, especially for humans.

The orbs do present a quick way for humans to perform primal magic without establishing a connection to the arcana but they're rare and the only one we've seen is broken at the end of the first season. Meanwhile, Claudia was able to find the reagents for her dark magic spells with ease. Stockpiling common ingredients for their alchemy is probably easier than finding a rare magical artifact. We haven't seen another orb in the series so we'll have to see if other mages or merchants would barter for them but who knows if they would do so or what prices they would charge.

Callum has shown that humans can establish a connection to an arcanum, so it isn't the only option.

>Elves=Good/Humans=Bad
Yes it is.

>our heroes, a mere handful of characters, represent the only third party looking for a peaceful alternative.
Giving a baby dragon to an adult dragon isn't going to fix any of these problems because they existed long before the Dragon King died.

>Viren's ideology that an omelette requires breaking some eggs is counterpointed by Harrow's assertion that if one is willing to break eggs, they should be one's own eggs.
Which would make sense if Dark Magic worked that way but it doesn't. You need specific animal parts to cast specific spells.

>Viren sacrificed one magma titan to save 10,000 Durenians, where Harrow would have sacrificed 5,000 Katolisans to save 5,000 Durenians.
Which means Viren can call on the support of 5,000 more Katolisans and 5,000 more Durenians than Harrow.

>Viren's "shortcut" has led to continued violence
Who cared about the magma titan and why?

>we stand at the brink of a war that may yet risk 1,000,000 human lives, to say nothing of elves and their ilk.
You're writing as if there weren't any hostilities before his happened. At best this made the war happen sooner, it didn't cause it.

>She has the option to pull a "For the greater good," a la Viren, and sacrifice the dragon for her quest to return Zym safely home, but chooses instead to sacrifice (or rather, RISK sacrificing) her own quest in order to do something that will end a (not "the," but "a") cycle of violence and retribution on a small scale.
As long as the dragon is alive it can continue to attack human settlements and cause additional problems whenever the next issue flairs up. Nothing regarding the local issues has been fixed in any way.

Also risking a mission that is supposed to fix all the problems for one that will fix local problems is stupid. Modern cartoons are terrible because they have characters who jeopardise everything for some small issue and never suffer any consequences because of this.

I feel it's worth defining shortcut here. It's ultimately not about comparing dark magic with primal magic. It's about comparing dark magic with what humans would do with no magic whatsoever.

It might take a mage years to learn how to sacrifice a deer for it's vitality, but doing so is definitely a shortcut when it comes to a human body healing from paralysis on it's own.

Or Claudia might have to take a day-long quest to find ingredients for her tracking spell, but it's a shortcut compared to finding the princes and the egg the old-fashioned way.

Switching the souls of the King and a retainer might be difficult and sacrifice the retainer, but it's a band-aid on the problem that would resume once's the King's enemies realized he'd survived. And its a shortcut compared to taking actions that would end the cycle of violence and mistrust.

He's just tied up and not allowed to go anywhere. He's not suffering by a long shot.

Dude did literally come out of a fight with 5 master assassins at their maximum moon power without a scratch.

Capping this for future reference

Something I want to add to this, I think Dark Magic is being called evil because of the sacrifice angle and how it can effect a person long term. Viren was willing to sacrifice one random monster to save thousands. No big deal but then later he's willing to sacrifice an innocent person, then the crown princes, then his own son. I know he wasn't happy about any of that but he was willing to do it. I imagine later on we'll see him start getting worse. Maybe even Claudia will do something.

>King Harrow basically spells out the moral lessons of the show
I get where you're going with this, but it's just more of the same problem. Harrow SAYS these things, and then she show DOES something else. It's a consistent issue over and over again. If this was still season 1, I'd just say they were setting us up for a change in perspective, but we're two damn seasons in now and the show still cant set a consistent tone.
>condemns Runaan's assassination plot
On the contrary, the moonshadow assassins are saints in their own right. They're allowed to kill as long as it serves a purpose, but dark magic that kills to form a purpose is evil poo poo bad. "We take life, but we do not take it lightly" and with that line it's totally ok for them to kill whoever they want! Theres even a line in season 2 where they actually have to remind Rayla she came her to kill humans because it's such a non issue forever.
>Viren sacrificed one magma titan to save 10,000 Durenians, where Harrow would have sacrificed 5,000 Katolisans to save 5,000 Durenians. But that would have been the end of it, whereas Viren's "shortcut"
No, the shortcut was to do literally nothing like Harrow did. Dark magic was the hard way. It took weeks or months of study, a cross country quest, the hardest battle of these veterans lives, and the biggest spell anyone had ever seen. In no way is this a shortcut or easy at all.
>Viren's "shortcut" has led to continued violence
No, Thunder attacking humans on sight led to violence. You may say "well they wouldn't be in his sight if not for the dark magic plan" but remember that dragons apparently think it's totally ok to cross borders whenever and it's wrong to attack people who do so.
>the thing with Soren and the Dragon is being misinterpreted
No, pretty much everyone is on the same page as you about this, everyone except the writers who want to insist Soren was in the wrong.

>Viren's "shortcut" has led to continued violence
I think you mean the retarded ruling body, read the lesbian queens and Harrow and his wife, decided go on a suicide mission themselves instead of utilizing their soldiers. Harrow wouldn't have felt the need to kill Thunder if it had been some random soldier that died instead of his wife. That wasn't Viren, that was Harrow being retarded. And even then it would have been fine if they had left the wounded like Viren suggested, but nope. One retarded decision after another they decided to slow themselves down.
Viren's shortcut wasn't the problem, it was the idiots that surrounded him.

>It's ultimately not about comparing dark magic with primal magic. It's about comparing dark magic with what humans would do with no magic whatsoever
Oh bullshit that's an asspull justification and you know it. If that were true then Callum getting the sky arcanum would be just as bad, and so would the primal orbs, and so would a lot of things. Its JUST dark magic people have a problem with.
I was going to reply to your other points but your posting style is just too annoying to continue to read. A lone break is suppose to separate overarching ideas, not every single individual sentence. I didnt finish reading your post.

Not even. Callum is, as far as we know at this point, the only human in history to have formed that connection, and he needed very specific circumstances to do so. The entirety of humanity believe that humans are incapable of primal magic sans a very rare artifact. So until Callum starts teaching people how to connect with Arcanums then the only valid comparison is magicless humans, or dark mages.

King Harrow is a case what I like to call "too good for your own good." When a person could make the best out of the situation by just being a tad less noble. Not even dishonorable just tone it back on the chivalry.

Literally what does any of this have to do with what I was talking about. Did you get confused and reply to the wrong chain?

Theres a great example of this in season 3 of The Good Place, a guy who is so obsessed with being so good that hes going to get into heaven that he obsesses over tiny things like holding funerals for bugs that die near him. "I dont name them in case they already have a name which they prefer".

>Callum has shown that humans can establish a connection to an arcanum
What if that was alo the result of him having used dark magic

Do not start with this groundless headcanon again.

wasn’t his connection unclogged after he fell into a short coma from using dark magic?
not saying correlation = causation but there’s a very proper series of events that happened which weren’t explained too well.

>kid can't use primal magic
>uses dark magic instead
>immediately after waking up from dark magic coma he can now use primal magic
>groundless headcanon
Pretty sure the two events are connected

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this is what happens when you abuse dark magic

>retarded ruling body
To be honest Viren is pretty retarded too desu, or at least has some of Harrow's "to good for there own good". The only reason why Harrow killed the dragon king was because his wife died, and the only reason his wife died was because Viren wanted to help the lesbos fight the dragon when he should have realized he is needed elsewhere.

>>Humans are portrayed as bad
>>Elves and dragons are portrayed as saints who did nothing wrong
But this is true, the main "good" characters don't care as much for human lives as they do for Xadian lives. On the same note, the characters that are being portrayed as bad, hold human lives higher than Xadian lives and the series makes them seem like terrible people.

>It might take a mage years to learn how to sacrifice a deer for it's vitality, but doing so is definitely a shortcut when it comes to a human body healing from paralysis on it's own.
That's like saying modern medicine is a shortcut for treating the diseased.

I just can't understand how anyone could side with the elves and dragons when the series literally opens with them banishing all of humanity to the other side of the continent because of a few dark mages. Not to mention the first elves shown are literal assassins out to kill a ten year old kid.

Never though I would see someone agree with Harrow, I can't believe people are agreeing with you. He was an (hypocritical) idealist with no critical thinking. In the end Viren's idea saved everyone, and it was Harrow's decision to kill Thunder that continued the cycle of violence.

"too good for your own good" mind

Harrow had a martyr complex. Viren has a messiah complex

The fact that elves could force all humans to the other side of the continent tells me humans were small fries at that point. I'm thinking the elves felt threatened that a group they could push around if need be could suddenly push back.

>On the same note, the characters that are being portrayed as bad, hold human lives higher than Xadian lives and the series makes them seem like terrible people.
Oh, like Aunt Amaya, the valiant protector of the border? Who hates Xadia and its inhabitants?

And you’re conveniently forgetting that, sure, Harrow killed Thunder, which he himself admitted was an action made out of rage and therefore wrong, but Viren also decided on his own to steal the egg - a child - to use as a sacrifice for dark magic and a dangerous artifact in pursue of more power, therefore exacerbating the already precarious situation, and at no point has he shown regret for that.
Bottom line being both of them took active part in the cycle, but only one of them did any retrospection on their actions and tried to dissuade others from committing his mistakes.

They had dragons...is all easier with dragons
(and also Aaravos)

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>tfw no Dragon Prince: Total War

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its a fit since the usual retarded diplomacy mechanics would fit right in for this entry

this.

Right, I didn't consider that.
>steal the egg - a child - to use as a sacrifice for dark magic
Don't forget that was also the heir to the dragon-throne. And it's not like we know he would use it to"pursue more power", from all we've seen Viren does things for the good of his realm (except for the killing the princes thing, but that's was a stupid, out-of-character choice imo), so maybe he was saving the egg for an emergency.

Why the hell there's so little Soren/Callum art? I've looked everywhere and this is the only half decent thing I could find.

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>stupid, out of character choice
He's always been a power-hungry maniac willing to sacrifice anything, even his own children to get what he wants

Be it for his version of the Greater Good of Katolis, or humanity, it’s still all about power and what he thinks he needs it for. The fact that he did so without consulting anyone and at odds with Harrow’s wishes tells us Viren knew what he was doing was fucked up, but that didn’t stop him. Never does, actually, which is what makes him ultimately a villain.

Anyway, on more interesting things.There was an interview with the writers: hypable.com/dragon-prince-season-2-interview/
Some of the stuff although there's more:
>They’re kinda vague when asked about Callum’s magical abilities
>Runaan will have an important role later and Viren's in hot waters for using the mirror
>Amaya vs. Sun Elves confirmed to be about the elves getting back the post on Xadian land humans used to trespass and the ending of that arc had to be pushed for next season

On Sarai’s death and the flashback:
>JR: She’s dead. She’s really dead. That is the truth of what happened. We’re not playing any games there, I don’t think.
>AE: There is one scene, I’m just going to cause trouble, where we don’t know everything that happened in the scene.
And on Aaravos and Star Elves:
>They’re kind of the most god-like, in the sense of they span much more time than more Earth-bound or Xadia-bound elves. So yeah, he has this thousand year perspective. This kind of mythic role.
>JR: And obviously, he’s bad enough that they tried to literally erase him from the books.
>AE: He’s complicated.
>JR: He’s interesting enough that they tried to erase him from the books.
>AE: He’s disliked. That’s not the same as bad.

Guys, you arent seen the biggers picture, the clues hidden in plain sight, what the overall plan of them and their infiltrated agents that pass like regent kids, do elves actually are born with a conection to magic or it was give to them? who give it to them then? Im not saying its it was the ancient dragons, but it was the "ancient" "dragons":
discord.gg/xEAw25

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guys here me out
what if Rayla raped Callum

>What if.
>If.

the true secrets of a magic are in the pinkos, the elves theached the humans dark magic so they wouldn notice the power laying dorment in their hands and that knowledge would be lost for humans, but they didnt predict the dragons would ban a whole species from a side of the continent, so unlucking the power of the 5th finger has been difficult without many test subjects

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is Callum english and Rayla scottish ?

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Do you think the different kinds of Elves have different english accents?
Moonshadow have scottish accent, Sun elves have australian accent, etc.

No, that would be forbidden love.
Like, really forbidden love.
The only time is acceptable is if the English in question is from the north. Manchester or further.

>Crying about stereotypes that exist to be funny.
I have crooked teeth, love tea and since it rains so much I'm fucking semi-amphibious.
Chill love. Nobody takes stereotypes seriously.

>pinkos

So dark magic is communism?

Personally I'm happy about the depiction of the Scottish as loud, violent and frankly hilarious. It's all my relatives have going for us anymore really.

Beyond having the worst diet of any country that actually has food.

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Some modern day clothing

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>Who cared about the magma titan and why?

I did love Sarai having a PETA-tier spergfest over a giant rock monster.

"Does it have a family?" Bitch, what do you think?

fuck the lives of thousands of humans, think of the gentle magma titan and it's life instead

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So is this show actually good or worth checking out, or are waifus the only thing it has going for it?

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Pretty good if you look pass the choppy animation until season 2

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Both.

wonder twins activate

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>form of Callum's book
>now i'll be fondled by those sexy 5 fingered hands all day

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How bad is the S1 animation? I remember when the show first came out there were threads after threads about people talking about just how bad the animation was (granted it was the first few weeks of a new show so that could have been like 90% shitpost considering it's Yea Forums), how much does it improve later on?

>you should only sacrifice that which is your own thing to sacrifice.
>Viren sacrificed one magma titan to save 10,000 Durenians, where Harrow would have sacrificed 5,000 Katolisans to save 5,000 Durenians.
That only works if you concede that those 5,000 lives where Harrow's to sacrifice. Otherwise he's a massive hypocrite.

Pro-monarchy or not, I don't think the show wants to be a love letter to tyranny.

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Season 1 starts of choppy, and some of the scenes improve later on. Season 2 somewhat starts slightly better, but got alot better later on. I think they're getting use to the 3D animation to get it right

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They made the mistake of doing the most egregious examples of the choppy animation style in the first episode. Action scenes aren't as bad, but it's a bad precedent that they set, and rightfully fixed it in the second season. It's not so bad as to be unwatchable, so give it a shot.

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Cool, I've give it a shot when I have some time.

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>Xadi-os.
Kek.

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I believe there might be a variation even within the elven groups. The moonshadow elves with pink hues, Rayla and the guy who said no to letting Rayla use his whetstone, have Scottish accents. The deep-purple moonshadow elves, Runaan and Lujanne, have English accents.

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Gaaatoooraaaade

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Im gonna do it bros and sis, witness me

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Last modern day stuff

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it's obvious that Claudia is going to seduce Callum into using the dark arts
and in bed

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>dark arts
more like dark farts amiright

Best boy is getting some

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I feel there should be a Rick & Morty parody based on pirate dude as Rick, and Callum &/or Rayla being the Morty-like

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Think he'll have developed a fetish for being chained up after that?
If he didn't have it all ready.

lol no thanks, dont need to put willingly cancer on this show if possible

You will never tongue kiss your waifu elf under a hot summer rain user. Don´t even bother saving it.

Let me dream

S3 Preview

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Thanks for the link, user.
>he’s bad enough that they tried to literally erase him from the books.
>He’s interesting enough that they tried to erase him from the books.
Good. That's the impression I got initially, but then I read several anons absolutely convinced it was a trick Aaravos was pulling on Viren for some reason (?). I was starting to doubt who was the speedwatcher.
>I think we did not know as clearly what Ezran’s choice was going to be until we got there. Because at first we were like, obviously we thought they were all going over the border. Then we got there and were like, no man, Ezran is growing up and he’s going to want to face this.
Not very good. "We are just deciding crucial plot developments as we go along!" is how stories and character arcs fall apart. I hope it doesn't happen too often.

I had thought that Aaravos was erasing history about himself to keep Viren from learning too much about him. I felt it made sense because he's so far the most powerful mage given a name yet.

she left Viren since he was being y'know, Viren.

Is it weird that I want the dragon to have an obnoxious Australian accent?

imo sending Ezran back to Katolis was a good call. He's been overshadowed by Rayla and Callum to such extent he often came as an afterthought, and his connection to Zym wouldn't allow them to develop individually. Having a protagonist deal with the human side in an imminent war opens up for far more possibilities than if he didn't. Personally, when he decided to go back was the first time I actually became interested on him.
It's true that giving characters too much power can be counterproductive in the future, but sometimes it's better to bend a bit instead of stubbornly following the first draft. That's just another way to have the characters falling apart.

>What? You've nevah tried vegemite? One sec I'll fix ya up a sammy.

>Callum has shown that humans can establish a connection to an arcanum, so it isn't the only option
Callum is special, it's established that magic is "his thing". Majority of humans probably wouldn't be able to do magic.

I'd love it if BOTH Aaravos and Viren where morally grey antagonists.

I'd love it even more if they became genuine allies. Allies with manipulation and a serve power imbalance but allies nonetheless.

He can't help being chained up, but suffering is a choice here. Also, If he's actually doing Amaya, then even now he's still winning.

If the moonshadow elves are Scottish, maybe the dragons should be oirish
>Well well well, waaat chucker we 'av 'ere! sum elven shoite an' 'er pet 'uman. yer better not be tinkin av bringin' dat in 'ere.

Yeah, you don't want to be too rigid, either. But they obviously had crucial interactions with Ezran and Zym planned out for the future, so Ezran had to conveniently pull a new telepathy power upgrade out of his ass so he could keep talking to Zym and seeing what he needs to see from afar. I agree Ezran going back home seems like the most interesting outcome, though I'm a bit afraid of how it will affect the show's already slow-ish pacing.
It's still early enough into the story that these kind of script changes are excusable. I just hope they won't write themselves into a corner because they let the characters "take us to wherever they want" a bit too much.

Im not that versed in English stuff, how much difference is in Scottish and Irish?

Given how much connection has been established between Ezran and Zym (both had their fathers killed, both are the princes, they will be both responsible for fixing the war) the telepathy made sense for me.

Essentially nothing, but it's very important that they never hear you say that.

It's the same kind of difference between Jersey and New York accents.

Cute gag. Horrendous art style

Irish has lot of Oys and Eys.

Scottish is more about Arrs and Errs and pulling words apart as far as possible.

At least that's how I hear it.

True, and being so early in the story allows them to expand on the telepathy thing as they see fit.
To be honest, the 'characters will dictate us' seems more directed to shipping stuff and whether it'll be present or not, which is fair, I think, since people can get extremely stupid over it. They're already in a tight schedule with the rest of the plot as it is.

Aside from geography?
Tone, accent, colloquialisms, standard idiolect and typical patterns?
The major difference would be the pace of speech, Scottish people tend to have a faster pace of speech than the Irish when you think of typical accents.
t. Scott.

Highland Scottish and Irish are largely indistinguishable as being fairly fluid but lowland "Glasgow" Scottish is considered to have adopted a few English traits like skipping over some hard consonants with glutal stops. Though typically mick characters possess more of that nasaly sound you hear more in north Ireland. Kinda doubt the dragon will have that. The Sunfire Elves being seemingly mute up until this point are interesting.

My money is on them going totally left field and making them full on ARABIAN KNNIIIIIGHTS tier or something, with each of the Elf types getting some accent from some corner of the world.

Is there a mega for all the episodes?

Did we ever get the spine breaking Red Dragon's name yet or do we only have Soul Raygun so far?

Im getting flashbacks to Chris Redfield threads.

Chris posting is like the best thing to that shithole had these past weeks

Those are fun stereotypes.
As a German I don't get shit that isn't mired in tragedy.

>precocious child ruler cliche
That little bitch is no Lady Mormont.

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The fuck is happening
I dont go to Yea Forums so enlighten me

>be welsh
>Get forgotten every time
We could have had a Valleys!Elf. Or a Gog!Elf.
We even have Dragons!

>Viren sacrificed one magma titan to save 10,000 Durenians, where Harrow would have sacrificed 5,000 Katolisans to save 5,000 Durenians

He sacrificed one barely sentient magma monster to save the lives of 50,000 humans. There was enough food for 50,000 people for the winter, King Harrow was willing to let 50,000 refugees - who didn't prepare for the winter like his own people did, possibly because their dumb lesbian regents put half the budget into arts funding - intro his own nation knowing that there was only enough food for his own 50,000 people and that if they shared the food 50,000 out of the now 100,000 people total would starve to death. This is probably the exact opposite of what a king is supposed to do by the way and would have led to an immediate insurrection as soon as the populace found out that half of the population of the nation were going to starve to death in order to feed people from another country.

Anyway, after the King made the most retarded decision in this history of Kings, which the show writers probably think was the wisdom of Solomon because it's an analog for accepting refugees into Europe, Viren basically said okay the King has put is in a situation now where about 25,000 of our own people and 25,000 of the refugees are going to starve to death so in order to save us from this fucking nightmare he has created I'll come up with a plan where we use the heart of a monstrous beast to not only save 50,000 humans from starvation but also to turn the entire kingdom into an agricultural paradise going forward where everyone can be fed.

And then they don't listen to him calling for an immediate emergency evac which if they had done would have saved the lives of three queens and prevented the chain of events that led to the death of the Dragon King in revenge for the queen's death, at the sacrifice of the general and a few troops whose entire job description is to die so that royalty will live.

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>refuses to send aid when there’s a literal army on the border, and they’ve already shown they aren’t above sending elven assassins
She’s a traitor to the human race.

>Welsh people
>Existing
Just admit you're all just Scots who want to be different

More like she's written OOC and is skeptical of Viren for no reason whatsoever, but somehow she's supposed to be so much wiser than the other 'adults' because muh innocence.

I hate this shit. Here's a better idea: her father and Viren's former cockslave - I mean, King - hated each other. And so Queen Lolithot hates Viren, and wants nothing to do with his crusade at the border. Nice simple politics.

We where here first damnit

AND THEN when he sees the lesbian queens are going to die, he turns his horse around and rides back to help them, when he knows he's riding into what is almost certain death to save two queens he holds no allegiance to when he very easily could have just ridden his horse into the tunnel.

And this courageous, brave, visionary who saved more people in one day in the kingdom through one spell than the entire army did in this history of their existence gets harassed and shit-talked by everyone in leadership for the rest of his life.

AND THEN when he tries to rally the kingdoms into stopping an invasion of enemy troops who are clearly massing at the border preparing to invade and would require all the kingdoms united to even have a chance of stopping he gets shut down by a 12 year old girl who won't agree to the plan because "some soldiers might die" when dying to save their people from invaders is literally their entire job description and through that decision she potentially dooms the entire human race to extinction since the elves are clearly not invading for territory but for extermination, theirs is a war of genocide, of holocaust. And still no one will listen to the only man making any sense and instead listens to a 12 year old girl.

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the durenians weren't "prepared for the winter" because there was multiple years of famine you dumb cunt

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God was punishing them for accepting a 2 queens as their rules rulers

There are clear logical reasons for Welsh, Irish, and Scots to all be different cultures; namely the geography of the British Isles. Originally, the whole of Britannia was just a bunch of Celtic tribes, and all three groups are survivors of those original inhabitants. The Welsh used to occupy pretty much all of what we today know of as 'England', but a series of conquerors (Romans, Anglos, Saxons, Danes, Norwegians, French Normans who were also Norwegian but they lived in France for a time, etc) drove them to the Cambrian Mountains, which acted as a natural defensive barrier in much the same way the Scottish Highlands did. So the Welsh were able to retain much of their original identity, while pretty much everyone that was living in what was becoming 'England' started to identify as - surprise surprise - English, regardless of whether they were descended from Anglos or not (but given the amount of intermarriage, who is to argue that they weren't Anglos in some regard?). In a more modern context, there's probably very little benefit to being 'Welsh' beyond keeping your culture alive; as nobody speaks or reads Welsh and most people probably don't even know the language exists. So they're kinda the Quebec of the UK.

Oh wait, that brings us to the Scots. They're a completely different story; the long and the short of it is: the Picts. Who were around alongside the ancestors of the Welsh, so nobody was here 'first' user. You both were, as the original Celt settlers, who then diversified as time marched on; then got conquered and forced to drink tea and eat crumpets. Thank God the USA saved itself from that awful fate.

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What if that titan had lived for billions of years? what if we could talk to it and learn about the pre-history of our natural earth? how things formed and what stalked the ground beneath us before we did. That magma titan might have lived for a few billion years yet. A time capsule of information for the far future of civilisation. But no instead of saving such a precious commodity you decided to save a handful of people who will have all died of dysentery or measles in a few years.

Why would you honour the fuck heads who got themselves killed, in turn leading to political unrest and inevitable civil wars after they left a literal toddler in charge of the nation (probably leading to to thousands of deaths anyway) when you could honour the friendly giant who gave up its millennia long life to perform a miracle and deliver your people from darkness.

If they built statues in recognition to the magma giant the elves would probably change their minds about the whole ordeal rather quickly.

Wow yeah, the same famine and weather conditions that affected the Kingdom of Katolis seeing as their regions are directly adjacent to each other?

The one that the people of Katolis managed to prepare for by saving just enough food to barely feed their own people over the winter? While the durenians somehow managed to save enough to feed literally ZERO people and then used their fallback plan of flood into Katolis in a wave of refugees casuing half of Katolans to starve to death to feed them?

What Katolis needed was higher walls, manned by men with crossbows, pikes, and swords to protect their country from invaders that through their very presence would result in the DEATH of half of the men women and children in Katolis because the Durenians didn't prepare for the winter. What they needed was walls, soldiers and a King who actually cared enough about his people to make the right decisions to defend them, instead of literally murdering half of them so he could feel good about himself.

Why should any of the other nations risk the lives of their own people when's there's no proof Xadia was going to invade anywhere other than Katolis? They're the ones that picked a fight with Xadia, they can suffer the consequences on their own

>a handful of people

50,000 people. Half the population of the entire Kingdom. Which had flooded to 100,000 people through, uh, some questionable refugee policies.

Basically Plague of Gripes fueling again into memehood No Way Fag 2.0 Electric Boogaloo
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Why should Catholic England and Catholic France go on crusade because the Byzantine Emperor (who is not Catholic btw) asked the Pope to help defend Christendom?

Same answer, user. Those who do not stand together, hang separately. Or, that's the idea anyway. Just ignore that the Crusaders sacked Byzantium on their way to the Holy Lands. It'd be hilarious if that happened to Viren

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So if elves want to fight a genocidal war of extinction against a region that contains 20% of the entire human population of the planet, the other human nations shouldn't come together to defend them because that's "their problem".

But if Durenians don't save enough food for the winter the King of Katolis should let them into his nation even knowing that means a death sentence for half of his population because "Human Lives Matter", and then a decade later have the Queen of that nation veto a plan that would have saved the lives of the people of Katolis.

wont lie, I like that shit too

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>Those who do not stand together, hang separately
Right, which is why the other four kingdoms should team up and attack only after the Xadians when they're weaker after Katolis gets wrecked

Backstory?

>Viren telling the story about how he bravely charged into certain death trying to save the lesbian queens only to sadly fail
>then how Queen Sarai, the only other person with more influence over Harrow than he did, draws her last breath tragically in his arms
Nothing suspicious here, nope. Sounds complete legit.

With how they didn't show Harrow's death I'm half expecting it to be revealed that Viren killed him eventually

Were you here for the Legend of Korra threads? Before and way, way, way after?

Shit's riddled with screeching autists "confirming" things or establishing other things as fact because of their head canons.

For Dragon Prince, some autists the other day kept arguing how Dark Magic is totally evil. Didn't matter if you approached them civily or reacted just as autistically, they kept screeching "HURRDURR SOUL SUCKING HURRRDURRR CORRUPT HOOMANS" despite the show never once saying any soul sucking happening, and the only issues seem to have is discoloration and exertion of the body to be just a little bit tired (but that part's understandable when you defy the science of medicine and biology to unparalyze your brother using sheer energy).

Only fair port that Dark Magic is too dangeorus to the body was callum's PHYSICAL reaction to it (and not that fucking fever dream where even he stated in it that it was just whackazoids crazy), but I'm not all too convinced it wasn't just a first time bad reaction akin to using VR systems for the first time (where you get a cold sweat and fucking nauseous for a week)

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Is he in pain?

hes being pegged

Why fight to reclaim land when you could fight to defend it? Defender always has an advantage. Also, this is medieval era warfare, which means supply lines are SHIT. The best way to fight is in friendly territory, because there you can get food (which was not easily preserved, stored, or transported at the time; mind you) directly from local producers/markets. If the four kingdoms go to war after Xadians get wrecked by the elves, then they'll be fighting in a territory which has burned out and/or looted farms, destroyed/robbed markets, and roads which have more ambushes set up than a hiking trail in Nam. Also, they're fighting against Elves; who can probably magically preserve their food supplies (which humans could hypothetically be capable of too, but using dark magic; which a certain Xadian seems to be the biggest or at least most experienced practitioner of) and if not that more capable to live off the land via hunting and foraging (which humans could do too, but elves would be naturally better at it and thus exhaust the local supply before human armies could even touch it). And that's not even bringing up things like curses, which could be used to plague or impurity water supplies or just the whole local farmland in general.

And what's even worse, humans seem to not really have an accurate understanding of the disposition and capabilities of their elven adversaries. Even if elves were incapable of or unwilling to perform a 'salt the land' curse, jingoistic xenophobes like Viren have probably been blaming crop failures and epidemics on elvish magic for centures; so they probably think that's how elves operate anyway, which factors into their pre-war calculations of where to fight and when. Overall, far better to help an ally defend their territory against Elves while you are able than to try and retake lost land which may be magically turned against you or made a desert before you can prevent it.

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The show's biggest writing problem is how it presents the whole famine situation as a binary choice between killing the magma titan or letting 50,000 people die. Is there any chance the writers might go back later and reveal there were more options that could've been taken?

>if our aim is true
What did the captain say to the queen after that?

Cau dy geg, can't you allow me this on st.david's day at least.

Not likely
>AE: There is one scene, I’m just going to cause trouble, where we don’t know everything that happened in the scene.
>JR: Okay, that’s fair.
>AE: There’s a little more information than right now.
>JR: But, overall, other than that one shot, everything you see it what happened.
Having Viren murder everyone would kind of undermine the whole grey morality they're going for. Chances are, the one omission is that last shot of her dying quietly. Sarai probably confessed something Viren chose not to mention.

That's just dumb. Harrow was literally waiting to die, there would be 0 point for Viren to go out of his way to kill him. Anyway, Ruunan's ribbon thing didn't fall off till after he exited.

He probably did swap his soul with the bird's though.

I keep seeing people compare it to the trolley problem and say that Viren and Harrow offered the two sides.
Except Viren bought up both. Either let the event take course and watch many people die, or take action to save the many by deliberately killing one.

I honestly don't know what Harrow's suggestion was. Throw some bystanders in front of the trolley so that the momentum would slow it down enough to only kill the bystanders and half of the people in its way?

Viren's plans are dumb but Harrow's are just nonsensical.

>Runaan's ribbon thing didn't fall off
With how Rayla used her ribbon as proof Ezran was still alive after going under the ice, shouldn't that mean the assassins don't need to actually kill their target to get it off, just the target needs to die?

>Implaying Humans come first

Why? What if Humans come to be when Elfs fucked monkeys. Have you thought of that?

They are worse than nonsensical. His first loyalty as King was to his people and he committed to a plan that would directly lead to the deaths of half the population of his nation in order to save half the people of a foreign nation. He was literally a traitor, a genocidal traitor. What he needed to do was protect the border.

Elves act like they ae noble and composed, but inside they are all horny bastards. Just leave then without it for long enough and you'll see

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What kind of pick up lines will Rayla use on Callum?

moons full. lets mate

....Jace?

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Right but it would have fallen off before then if Viren had killed him.

oh yeah

TDP made me see how cool mages are

How could anyone hate chrisposting?
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Is killing millions of whales for the oil to help millions of humans a shortcut?
Is killing millions of cows and pigs for the insulin to help millions of humans a shortcut?
What backwards thinking.

Harrow wouldnt do the snake thing to let a soldier die in his place, even though the soldier has already pledged their life to him and would die anyway in the attack. It's clear Harrow would not say those lives were his to sacrifice.

But that's the problem, unless Viren was lying or Harrow came around to that way of thinking later on, he was making the decision to sacrifice all those people.

Isnt Katolis at the border? If so, once Katolis falls it's a staging ground for all of Xadia's forces to come in and the humans are fucked.

And yet he still offered up the citizen's of Katolis as sacrifice.
So hypocrite it is.

Why on earth does it have the symbol of Jas on the lava?

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>This shit again
Your example doesn't work because it is implied that the Magma Titan was a sentient creature just like the dragons, who are intelligent but aren't show to talk, and that it was important to elves or at less to the dragon king.

If you want to do a comparison with the real world you would have to say that to save 10,000 Americas you should kill 10 Canadians and you would see that this shit would not fly.

>Is killing millions of whales for the oil to help millions of humans a shortcut?
Yes, it's largely unsustainable and resulted in massive degredation towards the marine ecosysten
>Is killing millions of cows and pigs for the insulin to help millions of humans a shortcut?
Yes? It's massively inferior method of producing hte stuff compared to modern synthetic methods.

The problem with that analogy is many of the magical creatures used for dark magic have human or near human level intelligence. We know dragons at least are sentient, and Claudia was talking about chopping it up for spell ingredients like it was nothing

There are magical creatures besides the Magma Titan. That may be an actual person, but what about everything else? Using grubs, deer, and other dumb magical critters is evil dark magic when it's no different than taking the sinew off a deer.

The other human kingdoms were still in conflict, that kingdom wasnt even his ally. Harrow thought in the long term and knew his sacrifice would buy him a useful ally in the future. The fact that his people didn't riot despite knowing their King fucked them just shows he had control of the situation because he knew his subjects were submissive. How was he supposed to know the effort would be in vain because both lesbos would get killed and their 12 year old brat would be making the decisions?

If it had been Harrow ge wouldn't be asking the loli to go to war and even if he did, he'd likely be much better at convincing her. Viren is dogshit at dealing with kids, as well as people in general.

Ezran is going to show up with news of hopeful peace, smack Viren upside the head, and get in that Queens panties within a week of showing up in Katolis.

>his sacrifice

He didn't sacrifice anything, he knew his family and his children would be fed first since he was the king. He sacrificed half the civilian population of his kingdom, men women and children he was sworn to protect, to get a "useful ally" as you put it that was the only kingdom that vetoed a military alliance to protect his kingdom ten years later.

>The fact that his people didn't riot

The only reason his people didn't riot and instantly depose him, including his own soliders and guard who would be watching their families slowly die from starvation to feed strangers, was because the writers wrote it that way. He would have been instantly overthrown and executed and the refugees forced back out. The only reason it didn't happen this way is the writers use the crisis as a thinly veiled analog of the current refugee crisis going on in the first world and because of their personal politics guaranteeing refugees right of entry must be done in any scenario, even one as extreme as this where it literally results in half the people in a country dying for it. Because they support it they wrote the people living there into supporting it.

>Oy, get this fuckin uman some fuckin stubbies and some smokes

>Claudia was talking about chopping it up for spell ingredients like it was nothing

The same dragon that incinerated half a town resulting in who knows how many civilian deaths?

>to save 10,000 Americas you should kill 10 Canadians
Literally nothing of value is lost in this scenario

>He sacrificed half the civilian population of his kingdom
Not even close. What's her tits talks about being able to send "A million people to die" in the potential war. Aside from that the sentiment of the action is a powerful step in a unified humanity. Even if the act itself doesn't change the baseline negative consequences, it shows solidarity in the face of hardship with their neighbors. Given the history of the Pentarchy it's an important move to establishing long term peace.

Who the fuck ever mentioned refugees?

If your president won't kill 10 citizens of another nation to save 10,000 citizens of his own nation then you probably need a different president and guaranteed most people would vote for the other guy who says he will.

I hope a Moose rapes your dog

Except the other nation is 5 times the size of yours and everyone and everything living in it is much more powerful and dangerous than anything in your nation

There are 50,000 refugees from Lesbania (the entire population). There are 50,000 people living in his Kingdom. The entire population of Lesbania trudged across the boarder and said "feed us", making the population now 100,000. The king had saved enough food to just barely feed his own people for the winter, 50,000 people. By saying feed the refugees he was saying let 50,000 of the new 100,000 total merged population die. He sacrificed half the civilian population.

It wasn't solidarity in hardship. Solidarity in hardship is sharing food and everyone eating less in order to make sure that everyone lives through the winter. They were not in that kind of situation. They had just barely enough food even with rationing it to feed their own people through the winter. By choosing to give half of it to the refugees they were not showing solidarity, they were sentencing half of their civilian population to death by starvation in order to feed foreigners who didn't save enough food for their own people.

>sacrificed
He didn't though, they went for the magma titan before that happened

Literally none of this is true, what hte fuck are you talking about?

There was no talk about the magma titan till much later. At the time Verin told him if you make this choice half of the people living here will die of starvation, and he still made that choice. Verin only came up with the magma plan later after the King agreed to let half his people die.

You should watch the show. Literally everything in that post happened in the show verbatim.

Will there ever be an animated series that goes with a polygamous relationship when multiple characters are interested in each other, instead of a love triangle rivalry? Even so called "harem" anime is usually just a bigger clusterfuck characters fighting over each other.

Stephen Universe.

Not even a little bit. The only facts given are that at the rate of the Famine which Duran had been enduring for 7 YEARS beforehand 100,000 people would die the coming winter. At no point does this population follow the queens anywhere. No one ever says that this would be the entirety of the population of Duran, or the population of Katolis. It's an estimated statistic.

Deciding to help each other in the face of hardship even when it starts having negative personal consequences is exactly what solidarity is.

I don't think he's literally saying 50,000 people died, just that Harrow made the decision to allow that to happen

I don't care about that, he's saying 50,000 people is HALF the entire population of Katolis when that's never stated and that the estimated 100,000 Duran that are potentially starving are for some reason refugees who have come to Katolis when that also clearly never happened at any point

Calm down there RCMP, there no need to kill a dog over this.

>Famine which Duran had been enduring for 7 YEARS beforehand

The same famine both kingdoms had been facing. One prepared for it, one didn't.

>At no point does this population follow the queens anywhere. No one ever says that this would be the entirety of the population of Duran, or the population of Katolis.

Verin literally gives those numbest to him. He says we have enough food for 50k people, they have 50k people who want food. If we share the food 50 thousand people die.

Of course the starving refugees crossed the border to get fed. Imagine the only other scenario if they didn't; a kingdom full of people who are slowing watching their families and children die of starvation sends massive caravans full of food that they grew in their own kingdom overland across the border in order to feed strangers in a foreign nation while their people die. Even in a show with dragons and magic this scenario shatters the illusion of this story being plausible. In any nation on earth the people would turn against their king and stop him from killing them by sending away truckloads of food that would save them from death so he can feel like he's 'good'.

> now Callum I'll teach how to connect with the moon arcanem but you have to trust and and ask no questions
> ok Rayla I trust you
>good, now close yer eyes get on ye knees and stick out ya tongue

>Verin literally gives those numbest to him. He says we have enough food for 50k people, they have 50k people who want food. If we share the food 50 thousand people die.
You are completely missing the point that user made

>Of course the starving refugees crossed the border to get fed. Imagine the only other scenario if they didn't; a kingdom full of people who are slowing watching their families and children die of starvation sends massive caravans full of food that they grew in their own kingdom overland across the border
Sending foreign aid is way more plausible than mass immigration. The show never implied refugees, only offered food.

>The same famine both kingdoms had been facing
Never said anywhere at anytime. You're still making shit up. Katolis never had a famine, yet STILL somehow managed to not have enough extra food around to help. You don't survive seven years of famine with no casualties up until that point by not being prepared.

>Verin literally gives those numbest to him. He says we have enough food for 50k people, they have 50k people who want food. If we share the food 50 thousand people die.
And at no point of time were those numbers ever said to be the entirety, or half of all of Katolis' population.

>Of course the starving refugees crossed the border to get fed
Except no theres no reason for that to be obvious, Katolis has no reason to accept or help them given their history and they have no reason to think otherwise. The people who might end up starving have no means to be certain they'll be the dying ones and it being worth leaving their homes yet. Even if there was a refugee crisis we somehow know nothing about there are three other kingdoms and Duran is farthest away from Katolis.

Your whole stance is based on made up information.

>Sending foreign aid is way more plausible than mass immigration

Not when that "foreign aid" is resulting in half the population of your nation slowly dying of starvation as you watch caravans full of food that could feed your children slowly rolling out the castle gates.

50,000 people leaving their homes and traveling across the continent to take that food directly from them is better how?

No human is illegal.

>He says we have enough food for 50k people, they have 50k people who want food. If we share the food 50 thousand people die.
Not a single bit of this was ever said

You're wrong on all points. Viren says Katolis has SLIGHTLY more food than they need to get their ENTIRE population through the winter. Duran is ALMOST depleted of food. SOME of the Duran population (The est 100,000) may die. Harrow decides to bolster Duran's stores of food reducing the total casualties of Duran while creating risk for his own people. You're taking the word "Half" and applying them to completely unrelated components of the crisis to create a completely ridiculous scenario that has no basis in what the show showed.

To me, the way Aaravos said "my name will mean nothing to you" suggested he knew he had been given the Hatshepsut treatment.
I wonder how successful and thorough they were in erasing him from history. Runaan knows what the mirror is, but Rayla doesn't recognize the key. Harrow (someone who seemed to have very little interest in magic) knew about him, Viren knew exactly where to look as soon as he got the name, but he wasn't expecting the pages to be blurred. There doesn't seem to be much of a pattern.

>half the population of your nation
It's not half the population it's 50,000 people. The Queen of Duran implies the War would have much greater casualties than the 100,000 the famine could have took implying a significantly high population than 100,000. You're being retarded.

>Katolis never had a famine

He literally tells the king because of these conditions we just barely have enough food to feed our own people through the winter.

>And at no point of time were those numbers ever said to be the entirety, or half of all of Katolis' population

You can dispute how much of the population it comprises, but that really is not relevant to the deaths and doesn't change them. They have enough food to feed their people over the winter with zero people starving. The citizens of Lesbania have not saved enough food for anyone. Not even a sausage. By sharing half their food with the Lesbanians the end result is fifty thousand civilian deaths by starvation, half the deaths shared by each population, so twenty five thousand civilian deaths for the populations of each kingdom. Fifty thousand total. This is what the king agrees to. The magma golem plan is developed later after he agrees to this.

It's not better. But its easier for people accept when the person right beside you is also starving. I mean they would still turn against the kingdom anyway in reality, but sending truckloads of food to foreigners as your own people starve to death... no people in history of nations real or imaginary would permit something like that to happen without open rebellion.

>creating risk

He is not "creating risk" Verin gives it to him straight; they have barely enough food for their own people over the winter, sharing it will mean fifty thousand deaths by starvation shared between the two populations.

He is not "creating risk" he is creating genocide.

Doesn't change the number of people dying, it's still fifty thousand civilian deaths.

>people starve to death in the US
>the US sends food to foreign nations
I don't see any militia storming the white house gates at the moment.

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>He literally tells the king because of these conditions we just barely have enough food to feed our own people through the winter.
No he fucking doesn't you fucking retard. At no point is it ever stated that Katolis is suffering any sort of famine like Durand. If they were why the fuck would the Queens be looking for handouts? They're simply stated to "only" have enough food to feed their own population through the winter.

>The citizens of Lesbania have not saved enough food for anyone.
Again you're wrong and fucking retarded. They had saved enough food to survive seven years of famine, and still had some stores and resources available to assist their population, it is simply stated to not be enough and that some casualties will be inevitable. You can't even remember the given numbers correctly and your'e acting like all the shit you made up is relevant. The queens say 100,000 people will die. Sharing food will potentially result in 50.000 duran deaths and 50,000 Katolis deaths. And again all of this is irrelevant, because you're standing on the fact Harrow is somehow holding a nationalistic viewpoint where he has to think about the Pentarchy competing, when all his actions, including giving the food, show a humanistic outlook that desires a united Humanity.

>Kick the ball

Subhuman

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Except he's preventing the disproportional death of another culture due to natural or man made events by standing aside and doing nothing. Literally the opposite of genocide.

It's not genocide to simply not help a population with a problem you yourself did not cause. Right now there is someone dying of starvation somewhere in the world. Why are you not rushing off to help them? Oh yeah, because if that was what morality was based off of, everyone would be rushing off to help someone they don't know solve a problem they probably cannot actually fix. Nobody is inherently obligated to help anyone else, we do that by choice. And if we choose not to help someone, well we might have good reason for that. A good number of drowning deaths are the result of an untrained passerby trying to help someone else who is drowning, ending up dooming them both. And the current African food crisis is partially due to international aid flooding the local markets by dropping the price of food to uneconomical levels and completely fucking up local farmers' ability to continue to operate their pretty shitty but better than nothing current farmlands; which results in even less food being produced locally and causing the hunger crisis to get even worse.

Also, this is medieval times. How exactly is all this food aid going to be delivered to the affected population in a prompt and well organized manner? If the local king hasn't done a census in a few years, they might not even know where most of the starving population is located to begin with. They could vastly underestimate their own population, and thus the amount of food needed, and create a major crisis for local farmers that will already be struggling. This is called fucking economics, and it isn't some theoretical bullshit. It's better to not get involved with this sort of crisis, and let it resolve on its own. If it was a mudslide or flood, which affected a small area and had identifiable damage that could be cleared or repaired; then that's a better scenario to give aid in. But a famine in medieval times was like a plague; it could easily spread to other areas and thus must be contained.

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>At no point is it ever stated that Katolis is suffering any sort of famine like Durand

If you have the exact amount required to feed your people through the winter and you have absolutely zero surplus and zero stores after the winter is over and the person explaining this does so while the camera ominously pans over a break grey snow-swept courtyard you are in the middle of and I don't feel like the writers should have to hit people over the head with it anymore than that just for people who are functionally retarded.

>They had saved enough food to survive seven years of famine, and still had some stores and resources available to assist their population, it is simply stated to not be enough and that some casualties will be inevitable. You can't even remember the given numbers correctly and your'e acting like all the shit you made up is relevant. The queens say 100,000 people will die. Sharing food will potentially result in 50.000 duran deaths and 50,000 Katolis deaths. And again all of this is irrelevant, because you're standing on the fact Harrow is somehow holding a nationalistic viewpoint where he has to think about the Pentarchy competing, when all his actions, including giving the food, show a humanistic outlook that desires a united Humanity.

Absolutely none of your blather changes the essential facts of the situation; 50,000 civilian deaths in Kayolis because the king made a decision to give away their food. People that would have lived if he had not given away their food. It's easy to talk about a humanistic outlook when it isn't your children dying a slow death by starvation. The king knew his kids and his family wouldn't go hungry. The people he sacrificed were his citizens. They died so he could feel 'humanistic'.

Correct. Well, half correct.

The people he genocided were his own people. 50,000 of them.

are we posting meme now?

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>Oh yeah, because if that was what morality was based off of, everyone would be rushing off to help someone they don't know
Except that's not what's occurred. The Queens came to Harrow and asked for help, to which he responded. For millenia across many cultures, hospitality was one of if not the most important virtues someone could display, and disadvantaging yourself in order to assist a total stranger in whatever way you could was considered extremely honorable and good. Not doing so was grounds for divine retribution. Morality isn't seeking out wrongs to right, but ignoring wrongs when they show themselves to you because it's not you "responsibility" is the root of evil deeds.

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Hospitality ceases to exist when the guest leaves, and only applies to that guest.

except he didn't genocide anyone

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>If you have the exact amount required to feed your people through the winter and you have absolutely zero surplus and zero stores after the winter is over and the person explaining this does so while the camera ominously pans over a break grey snow-swept courtyard you are in the middle of and I don't feel like the writers should have to hit people over the head with it anymore than that just for people who are functionally retarded.
THATS AFTER HARROW AGREES TO SHARE THE FOOD YOU RETARD

You're whole viewpoint is what Harrow is challenging. There is no Katolis or Duran. Theres humanity. There is the Pentarchy. Nothing changed.

He knowingly made a decision to genocide 50,000 of his own citizens.

Great Hero Verin came up with the magma plan much later. The genocide decision had already begun by then, only Miracle Verin stopped it from grinding to it's merciless conclusion.

You look at this sign and explain to me why anyone should give a damn about you freaks.

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>There is no Katolis or Duran. Theres humanity.

Easy to say unless it's your family dying before your eyes of starvation so a Duran family you have never met can feed themselves.

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Except his decision was in no way shape or form inspired by causing harm to any culture. You can't just throw around Genocide because a bunch of similar looking people died. The Titanic sinking wasn't Genociding a bunch of rich english people.

Genocide doesn't mean "causing a lot of deaths"

Genocide is a targeted act against a specific ethnic group. It's not genocide unless he specifically deprived food from a specific ethnic group.

Except Harrow can clearly see the hardship it inflicts up his people and clearly takes that badly during the courtyard scene you just mentioned. It clearly wasn't the easy thing for him to do, but it was the right thing to do.

Wrong, because the world is a home we all share.

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>Except Harrow can clearly see the hardship it inflicts up his people and clearly takes that badly during the courtyard scene you just mentioned. It clearly wasn't the easy thing for him to do, but it was the right thing to do.

Again, he's not inflicting "hardship". He's inflicting death. Fifty thousand deaths to be exact.

I'm not letting my kids starve to death so some lesbian kids in a foreign nation who were too stupid to save food for winter can stuff their lesbian mouths with bratwurst. And any king that would suggest such madness is no king of mine.

>too stupid to save food for winter
Again, they've been through seven fucking years of famine and hadn't completely depleted their food stores, and no, Katolis was not also experiencing famine

Hey, awesome. He gets to "take it badly" while his children are warm, safe, and well-fed. Meanwhile, Todd and Margo get to watch their own two sons wither and die of starvation because Harrow literally took their food away and gave it to someone else.

That's precisely what he did though; he deprived food from a specific ethnic group - Katolian citizens - that he specifically sentenced to death by starvation. Those people would have made it through the winter and been alive if the king had not taken their food and given it away to strangers in another country. It was quite literally murderous targeted genocide.

Meanwhile you think Viren marching a million humans to their death to fight Elves and Dragons for literally no reason except that they bully your grandpappy once is fucking fantastic and that he should be king

And another family survives thanks to his actions.

>Katolis was not also experiencing famine

It's almost like you didn't watch the show and see the transformation of Katolis from a beak winter sustenance landscape into a bountiful harvest garden of eden as the spell was cast.

Regardless though, if you want to pretend they were not also experiencing famine that's fine, knock yourself out, it changes nothing about the fifty thousand death.

That has to be the most onions thing I ever heard. I love it.

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Katolis clearly counts multiple ethnicities as its citizens.

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I'm sure that thought put Todd quite at ease while he was digging two tiny graves.

Except it's not because not a single one of his actions were performed with the intent of removing or harming the Katolis culture. Hitler wasn't genociding Germans when he declared war even though he knew there would be German casualties and their loss resulted in 5.3 million sour krauts.

It should, the cunt.

>beak winter
Yes, it was winter. A perfectly normal, non-famine winter. You do know what seasons are, right?

>no reason

They are literally massing at the border for invasion, this was confirmed by angry mute General Pixiecut who Yea Forums considers a reliable narrator. Seeing as this is a revenge invasion for the death of the dragon king and not for territory which they don't need or want the goal of their invasion is simple; extermination.

The only question is will they stop at holocausting only the population of Katolis, or continue on to the other human kingdoms surrounding in a final solution to the human problem.

>Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious or national group

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If you want to save Lesbianian kids by sacrificing your own maybe you should chop yours up and make em into sausages and ship em over the border, and those of us that want our families to live can feed our children from the crops we saved up for the winter that we grew in our own fields.

No they're reinforcing the border because the humans just murdered the Elves most important defender. General pixiecut sees it as otherwise becuase she's clearly unreliable source of info, distrustful of elves to the extreme.

Maybe if you spent more time growing food instead of whining we wouldn't have the problem in the first place.

>and their loss resulted in 5.3 million sour krauts.

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That isn't a word. That's someone chewing their tongue while having a seizure.

"Katolian citizens" are not an ethnic group. It isn't genocide unless he explicitly directed his troops to only take food from the black citizens or the white citizens. When you do it indiscriminately it's just murder.

Right. It's a bunch of sentence.
Saint Mary's Church in the hollow of the white hazel near a rapid whirlpool and the Church of St. Tysilio of the red cave.

>>Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious or NATIONAL group

You can see the faint smile on his face when he finished without fucking up

Build the Wall, High King Verin.

Build TWO walls, one to keep out the begging lebians, the other to keep out the elves.

Make Katolia Great Again.

They don't need to appear as Rick & Morty. The setting itself will have them in a position like Rick & Morty

The elves already built the wall. You don't get much more of a "stay the fuck away" border than a river of lava.

Reminder and 20000x hours in MS paint

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There's something incredibly unsettling about that Ezra picture.

I'll be honest 99% of ezra fanart is gay or in groups

Literally have no idea who the rebel guy is. Is he some nuStarWars OC? Should I have assumed xirs gender like that?

The Aunt general and loliqueen?

>lets cause a famine in our kingdom to save the lesbian kingdom
is this nigger fucking serious? what the fuck?

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The Welsh get a lot of love from Ni No Kuni and Xenoblade
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god Xenoblade is cringeworthy, japs are really 0-100 with humour either being great or the worst you've ever seen.

Welsh accents are 10/10 though, scots are fine too, Irish and *people* from the Norf can go home, Southlanders don't deserve a mention

Yeah, there's either really good writing or fucking horrible stuff.
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>"We remember him as the worst king ever, we actually celebrate the day the elves assassinated him"

Poor laphi getting bullied.

>peasents give over your hard earned crops to me so I can give them away while half of your familys will starve
uh....no
>what, no how could this happen, take their grain by force! How dare they not agree to starve for foreigners we were at war with a few decades ago.

Harrow really wanted that goullitne huh

Good thing the kingdom will soon have a sexy new Startouch Elf king.

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This is the first time I've laughed at an image in a long while. Thanks, user.

I miss that show.

>local gay pragmatists kill idealists, usher in new age of peace and prosperity.

Aarvos could be a 12/10 demigod but those handlebar horns make him look like a cheap 6 blowjob queen

>Beyond having the worst diet of any country that actually has food.

Batter Fried everything. Its like State Fair food.

for those unaware, VirtualOptim was a notorious tripfag on /tg/ often popping into tabletop RPG threads talking about his hatred of elves and a deep love of seeing them slaughtered gruesomely.
he also had some of the most contrarian opinions ever seen on /tg/, so in all, the perfect tripfag.

back in 2015, he finally met his end due to a public execution by redpost ban, for saying that "FATAL", (AKA: the game where you need to measure the circumfrence of your anus in order to make sure you dont split yourself in half if you get taken from behind) was "worth playing"

of course, theres a whole lot more to the story than that, but it's up to you to find it all out.

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God I love batter fried anything.

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Such a charmer

Wrong, the greater utalitarian good is the most important when ruleing a principlaity, Harrow was a trash person who was more interested in stroking his own stark teir chivilary than look out for the people under his jurisdiction.

A leader must make moral choice FOR his people, not his own self.
A leader must lead for his country not his sentiment, nor his personal feelings.

>Claudia and Soren return to the capital
>the streets are littered with corpses and there's a full blown civil war
>Viren is sitting on the throne with Avaros in his lap, wearing the Leia slave bikini and whispering in his ear
>"Hello children, things got a little out of hand while you were away."
>*laugh track*

as a scot, yeah using any kind of voice recognition is really annoying

Ah Royal Woolie

Aarvos has got to have at least 12 different slave costumes, he seems the type.

>tfw your friends break up
>tfw your youtube channel breaks up
>fw your soul gets put in a bird

Royal Woolie had a hard life

He'll figure it out.

He's still got WoolieVersus.

woolie could beat them all.
but can he beat his biggest enemy: himself?

And Castle Super Beast, with Pat. And they will be doing a DMC5 LP on WoolieVersus much like they are airing their RE2 stream there right now.

His Podcast and how he's getting things rolling is inspiring.

Just hope he doesn't somehow fall into taking up Facebooks Patreon "challenger" Which takes six times the profits and steals the creators content

Oh for sure, he's got a podcast dedicated to that.

Avaros has closets filled with revealing dresses and fetish gear and he's just WAITING to spring those on Viren.

Callum is gonna be a strange freak, like "half-elf half human". Probably his mother fucked an elf before marrying Harrow or something

Imagine being such a power bottom and being stuck in a magic room for over a century.

Dude needs to get laid more than slannesh in a chasity cage.

nah they shared a pic of callums dad and he's just a pretty generic human, maybe a little meaty with a beard, not elf like at all.

Maybe his a full blow El Monstero with a great great grand-dad that banged an elf once.

>King "I've decided, hand over half our food stores to the lesbian kingdom"
>But sire, we won't have enough for our own people... t-thousands will die
>King "Tens of thousands"

Worst king ever.

Happy St. David's Day, Welsh user.

True, I remember when Siri came out and no Scots could use it.

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Who's going to be able to stop a WR who can leap 3ft up into trees with a single effortless bound? Or she plays RB and simply jumps over the line and linebackers to land in the secondary...

Soren since he dumped everything into Strength and vit like a real man.

Give him the ball and he cannot be stopped, he is the poisetank we need and no amount of knife ear dexfaggotry will disuade it

Viren will have to keep him away from his kids. Given half a chance, he'll turn Soren gay and Claudia straight.

Hell, Callum will have a hard time facing him too. He's already elf-sexual and he only interacted with an unrefined bumpkin instead of a smooth glitter god.

And, in addition, she's an asshole.