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what could be the next horror movie ?
friday 13th or sequel to nightmare elm street
Some ideas expressed about the possible structure of a shared Horrorverse in the last thread.
>Morte Mamme and Leviathan of Hellraiser lore take the place of God and Satan in the Horrorverse.
>There are many other gods and god-like beings in the Horrorverse but Leviathan and Morte Mamme are the big kahunas.
>In this world filled with monsters, freaks and maniacs and basically ruled by a Lovecraftian abomination that feeds off of pain and torture, humanity's only true defense is the hope of survival.
>Things like prayer, crucifixes and holy water only work not because of God or a holy force, but because of humanity's hope and trust in those things that give them power over the forces of darkness
>Same law applies to weapons like Ash's chainsaw. It was Ash's drive for survival and the hope that it would work that gave an ordinary chainsaw the ability to kill the Deadites, which is why if someone tried to do the same but had no hope, it wouldn't work and they would die.
>Leviathan created the Cenobites to spread pain and torture but it will still influence other beings (like Jason and Freddy) in order to feed on as much pain as possible.
>Morte Mamme created the Harrowers to combat the Cenobites but will also influence people to gain the strength and hope that will allow them to fight against the other horrors Leviathan is influencing. And that is how final girls are made.
>If Leviathan gains enough strength from all the carnage in the world it will break free from Hell and rule over the Earth. And Hope is the only thing keeping him at bay.
>All horror films take place in the shared Horrorverse, with almost no exceptions. Classic Universal Monsters, slasher films, Sci-Fi films, Kaiju flicks etc. If it's related to horror, monsters, science fiction and thriller, it's in the Horrorverse.
Ernest is the hope
Leave Leviathan to me, hehehehe
Did they ever cross Evil Dead with Hellraiser?
Not to my knowledge but you know deep in your heart that they are related.
All horror films are.
Leave Morte Mamme to us.
Not officially.
There was this thing called the Wold Newton Crossover Universe in which fans were using Philip Jose Farmer's Wold Newton Family Tree and used connections to create a universe. From the horror parts, the book and Universal film versions of various monsters were incorporated in, along with Lovecraft stuff, Evil Dead, Hellraiser, Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th, Halloween, Child's Play, etc. I remembered there was a whole list of connections somewhere.
If all the Universal Monsters are in that universe, then Abbott and Costello would be in it, too.
There's even a book in 1998 or so that used the Universal Monsters and acknowledged the Abott and Costello crossovers happened.
>Abbott and Costello meet Pinhead
Fund It. They'd survive too, much like Ernest gag characters are able get out of most horror attacks unscathed through comedic relief. Also since we're going on that "hope is humanity's only defense" thing gag character like Ernest would be the biggest suppliers of that since comedy helps people manage the harsh cruelty of reality, which would be another form of hope.
So basically Ernest and Abott and Costello would be morale support for the other Horror Heroes and maybe even their last resort to stopping Leviathan if all Hell breaks loose. So this post is pretty relevant.
>And remember, there is no God, only Leviathan.
Reminds me of a Hellraiser comic where a dude solves a bootleg puzzle box that sends him to regular Hell, which kicks him out because the demons can "smell" Leviathan on him and they don't want to deal with its shit.
An user from the last thread posted a list of entities that would be in the Necronomicon of the shared Horrorverse and I think I'll repost it as well as add some of my own.
>The Deadites
>Leviathan
>The Cenobites
>The Dream Demons (NOES)
>Wrathful Nature Prescence (FT13)
>Damballa (Child's Play)
>It (Stephen King's It)
>Djinn (Wishmaster)
>Samhain (Halloween 3/Trick r Treat)
>Pazuzu (The Excorcist)
>Pumpkinhead and the other Seven Deadly Sin Demons (Pumpkinhead)
>Sheetar (Blood Diner)
>Krampus (Krampus)
>Gozer (Ghostbusters)
Wow this is a treasure trove, thanks user. This will be a good source when it's time to story time horror comics in October.
He Who Walks Behind the Rows (Children of the Corn)
Death (Final Destination)
The Anti-God (Prince of Darkness)
The Ancient Ones (The Cabin in the Woods)
Good additions.
This blog I frequent has a tag for religious-themed slashers and slasher-esque films, some more obscure entities could potentially be mined from it.
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I'd do it myself, but I'm going to bed soon.
If we're adding entities from other Ghostbusters material into the Necronomicon, I suggest also adding Wat and The Grundles.
Makes sense, the Real Ghostbusters is really where most of the connections people use for other horror links. They had to deal with Cthulhu once.
>Hack/Slash
Fuck yes, we can't afford to exclude Hack/Slash from the Horrorverse but how is the Black Ambrosia suppose to play a part? Are only certain slashers exposed to it but others, like Freddy and such aren't?
Meant for
Probably certain ones are but not all slashers.
I have some ideas for incorporating most Kaiju films into the Horrorverse
>The Leviathan uses radiation in a manner similar to how The One Below All uses Gamma Radiation, manipulating it to create, mutate or resurrect creatures into giant engines of destruction
>Opposingly, monsters created by or linked to Mother Earth (Morte Mamme) are good in nature and fight to preserve Earth (Mothra, Gamera, Kong, certain versions of Godzilla)
>The reason Earth is subject to so many alien invasions is because the Leviathan manipulates extra-terrestrial life to come to Earth to wreak havoc
>Related to this point, all interpretations of Ghidorah are from the same species but all mutated/grew in different ways based on their personal history before/during their arrival on Earth
>Carrying on from that also, all versions of Godzilla are related to the Legendary species dating back to the Permian, all mutating, aging and emerging in different ways (e.g. Legendary Goji is good due to feeding off of the Earth's radiation for millions of years, whereas Showa and Shin are juveniles mutated into unstoppable monsters by human's atomic testing)
>All the Kongs come from the same archipelago of islands and are distantly related
>The kaijus' immense natural instinct towards survival makes them immune to conventional weaponry, hence why only other monsters, weapons of mass destruction or beings embodying pure hope and drive (Jet Jaguar, Zone Fighter, Ultraman, etc.) are the only things capable of destroying them
Good shit, this is exactly what I had in mind.
Only the original slashers created for the comics are the ones resurrected by Black Ambrosia.
Would there be some sort of 'league of extraordinary gentleman and if so, who would be part of it?
I was playing with the idea of K.A.R.R. given a new body by the cenobites and that got me thinking about effective/not effective government responses. What other material, not horror per se, would you include?
A team of horror protagonists that fight against the Horrors (that could be the term for all the monsters and killers) I think should include the following.
>Ash Williams
>Ellen Ripley
>Herbert West
>Cherry Darling (Planet Terror)
>Ruka (Tokyo Gore Police)
>Andre Tulon and his puppets
>Anton Modrid (Doctor Mordrid)
>Toxie (Toxic Avenger)
>Brick Bardo (Dollman)
>Jet Jaguar (Godzilla)
Also I think it'd be best to keep The Horrorverse just be horror and sci-fi.
Bagul(Sinister)
The Man with Fire on his Face(insidious)
The demon king from The Gate(pic releated)
Meant for
>>Toxie (Toxic Avenger)
He's in New Jersey and so is Jason Voorhees.
That sets the stage for Toxie vs Jason.
But if they are all one universe how do the multiple apocalypses all happen?
Different timelines
Cheap cop out. Might as well call them different universe.
Also good additions.
Also correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you capable of summoning entities just by reading the pages of the Necronomicon aloud? Doesn't that mean someone could summon It or Krampus just like that?
Do the entities care about alien creatures such as Xenomorphs, Predators and Greys?
>cheap cop out
I guess but stuff like Multiverse theory is standard science fiction / fantasy fare, it's to be expected and it's the only way to make it work considering how many horror films end in the world ending, especially zombie movies.
>What other material, not horror per se, would you include?
if some non-horror thing has got sort of a direct connection with a horror or horror-sci-fi thing then I guess it could be included. But you just have to be careful not to go overboard with it.
If you want to go really far, for example you can include the Vampire Batman trilogy and assume that in this universe Batman was around for a while, then fought a Dracula and became a vampire, and then turned to dust (and ignore anything that happened after the trilogy was over).
Like would they try to possess or kill them? Don't know. Maybe demonic forces only care to mess with humanity and would rather ignore or team up with cosmic forces or they would still attack and kill aliens too as a kind of flex.
>Deadite possessed Xenomorph and vice-versa
Take my money.
Another horror related thing that's not directly horror that could be included into Horrorverse canon is the Toxic Crusaders cartoon, since it's based on the Toxic Avenger movies.
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Also Sgt. Kabukiman too because it's a Troma film and I think it actually takes place in the Toxic Avenger universe.
Also the Horror Heroes would frequently team up with other teams specializing in combating Horrors like the Ghostbusters and the Monster Squad.
>Another horror related thing that's not directly horror that could be included into Horrorverse canon is the Toxic Crusaders cartoon, since it's based on the Toxic Avenger movies.
It could, although I think it depends on how much of it you add in, since the origin for cartoon Toxie is different from the film.
Yeah, Sgt. Kabukiman showed up in one of the Toxic Avenger films.
Yeah, I would say the films happened first (with the film's version of his origin) and the events of Crusaders happen after but also before Toxie joins the Horror Heroes.
Oh and I was thinking Toxie would slowly learn to speak English as time goes on, going from only speaking in moans in roars like in the first film then talking like he does in Crusaders. It's been a while since I rematches the films, does Toxie start talking in the sequels? I vaguely remember him having his cartoon voice in Citizen Toxie.
He does talk in the first film, though. Like after he helped that cop who got mugged he talked to him. And he definitely does talk in the fourth one.
If you go for the more "horror" based version of a character does that mean the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina version of Sabrina is in this universe instead of other Archie Comics versions of the character?
Him talking in the first film was just his inner monologue though. And yeah I thought he talked for real in Citizen Toxie and I think they got the cartoon voice actor or they at least based the voice on the cartoon.
>there is no God, only Leviathan.
Wouldn't there being a God be scarier? That means he wants us here.
Sure sounds cool, Hellboy definitely needs to be in too. Maybe the Horror Heroes were even brought together by the Bureau in the first place as a first response team now that the existence of the supernatural became increasingly more common knowledge. I can see Hellboy enjoying hanging out with Toxie out in public since everyone now knows supernatural things exist and everyone knows and trusts Toxie.
But would that mean Hellboy is Leviathan's son? And does that mean he also has superiority over Pinhead and the rest of the Cenobites?
I mean at least with God he's willing to spare us as long as we worship him but with Leviathan we're all completely fucked with no way out since he doesn't want worship or praise, he just wants torture and pain and lots of it.
>that time Jason not only spared but adopted a deformed kid that reminded him of himself and acted as his protector
This is a side of Jason that I feel is seldom explored, a Jason that was once an innocent boy that was unfairly ridiculed and then killed. I like Jason as an unstoppable killing machine just one with a sympathetic side too, one that kills to lash out on a world that turns it's back on him and took away the only person that truly loved one.
They haven't, but they should.
Ernest is the pinnacle of character writing and acting.
Ya know there was a comic horror character named Mary Shelly Lovecraft who was basically trying to destroy the world by having it merge into amalgamations of other horror stories.
>as if real demons, undead killers and giant Kaiju wasn't bad enough, now we be this bitch that can make once fake monsters also real
It ain't easy living in the Horrorverse.
Based
Chucky vs Leprechaun
Michael vs Leatherface
Candyman vs Pumpkinhead
Jason vs The Creeper
I can imagine something like someone solves the Lament configuration to summon Pinhead and summons the Djinn from Wishmaster at the same time. Both Pinhead and the Djinn are either immortal or nigh immortal, so fighting each other over the soul of that person wouldn't work. Thus, they make a game to bring together the most evil people in the world to fight on their behalf, and whichever side wins gets to claim that person's soul.
So all the big and some of the small hitters would be there, Leatherface, Michael Myers, Jason Voorhees, Freddy Kreuger, Pumpkinhead, Chucky, Leprechaun, Candyman, The Tall Man, the Children of the Corn(with He Who Walks Behind the Rows as like a "special summon" ability like in CoTC 3 lol)and so on for anyone else I forget.
So what do you think would happen based on something like that opening act?
Based
>Ruka (Tokyo Gore Police)
my nigga
wish i could find it again, been wanting to watch it again for years
Fleet feet, quick hands and brotherly love shall always triumph over evil.
Okay, this idea is a little out there but.
Leatherface as an avatar of a living embodiment of murder and powered by a Bull-like entity called the Slaughter, who is the reason behind all the retcons in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre Universe, all so Leatherface can return.
You’re ripping off The Red Light entity, The Butcher, from Green Lantern. Stop that
I'm trying to remember how Tokyo Gore Police ended, and if she had any left in her to keep going.
I worry I'm mixing it up with the vampire girl vs Frankenstein girl thing.
The fucks that?
Reminds me of the Jinn from The Outing.
Like how Parallax is the living embodiment of the yellow light of fear, The Butcher is the embodiment of rage
Horror and sci-fi , good idea
The problem is if everything is in the same universe, how do you explain the multiple zombie apocalypses? Hell, there's even different variations on how Romero's Of The Dead timelines go, it could take place in the 60's (because that was when the original Night of the Living Dead was out) or the 70's (cause that was when Dawn of the Dead was out and they make very specific 70's references). And on top of that there was Return of the Living Dead which treated the original NOTLD as a movie that was "based on a true story." Honestly the multiple timelines/different universes things is the only explanation for them, or claiming that all these movies and tv shows exist in-universe but are exaggerations of what really happened.
Maybe treat it as a Multiverse that they all merge into?
Like the DC event Convergence, or the WaxWorks movies.
Eric Draven or any other Crows?
I think he's actually making a Magnus Archives reference.
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Like I said earlier, the way I see it if you're including non-horror stuff, it'd have to have a direct connection to a horror or horror-sci-fi thing, but avoid too many direct/indirect non-horror with non-horror crossovers to keep the universe horror-centric. So like you can assume Batman is in because of either the Dracula Elseworld or the Predator and Alien crossovers, but that doesn't mean Batman met Top Cat in this universe. It's not far off from what that Wold Newton Crossover Universe thing does to limit the number of superheroes being around in order to avoid being yet another superhero universe.
Here's what my "Horror Justice League" would look like:
>Andre Toulon and the Puppets (Puppet master)
The grand master who is organizing the league, uses puppets primarily for recon, support, communication, etc. The unofficial team leader due to age and wisdom, also kind of a team dad due to being a kindly old man.
>Ash Williams (Evil Dead)
The official team leader who keeps a cool head in a crisis and tries to think logically as a problem-solver, also the guy everyone else looks up to.
>Andy Barclay (Child's Play)
The crazy-prepared survivalist, always two steps ahead of the villain if not just out of sheer paranoia. Not too much of a team player though, which causes tension.
>Tommy Jarvis (Friday the 13th)
The face of the group, despite also being a loose cannon. His boyish good looks can charm all but the meanest of locals, but his deep-rooted anger ESPECIALLY for all things Jason makes him one of the most dangerous and unpredictable guys.
>Toxie (The Toxic Avenger)
Both the muscle and the heart of the team, Toxie is just the strong never-say-die motherfucker with a heart of gold. Everyone likes him, even if they don't like looking at him.
I see it more as a horror A-Team, where Ash, Andy, Tommy and Toxie are out in the field with Tulon staying back at the base and the puppets out giving them a hand.
In the comics, Evil Dead canonically includes a multiverse, and Hack/Slash does similar. Just slot everything into that, and make Leviathan the evil Rock of Eternity at the center of it all.
Actually, maybe make it a TV show like the A-Team, with the same sort of endearing once-per-episode cliches:
>Andy always has a gun hidden somewhere in advance
>Ash always gets a one-liner
>Tommy always sweet-talks a beautiful woman
>Toxie always kicks someone's ass
>The puppets (usually Blade) always come and bail the team out of a tight spot.
You could get a lot of mileage out of that formula!
Chucky
Michael
Pumpkinhead
Jason
God likes us and wants us around to nurture and grow us as beings. Leviathan doesn't want anything beyond torture, mutilation, and general suffering.
In fact, I genuinely think the latest Hellraiser movie kind of dropped the ball in having there be an actual God for Pinhead to stand against, instead of it just being Leviathan being inscrutable again.
Doesn't Showa Godzilla gain some benevolence though? IIRC he really mellows out.
people forgetting critters?
And here's another question, obviously the original Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street timelines are in cause that's where the crossovers happened, so the reboot timelines are off in some other world. But what's the primary timeline for Michael Myers?
kek
Maybe up to H-6? That’s the ine with the Thorn Cult
The films up to 6 are probably the point that fully defines the Halloween timeline.
momma could also work
Another thing: Chaos Comics (prior to Resurrection being out) went with the idea that 4-6 and H20 were in the same timeline (and then went off in their own direction with Laurie becoming the next Shape after H20. Would you go with that or just ignore H20 and the Chaos Comics altogether?
I'd consider them canon, but given the different route they take, they either take place in a separate reality from mainline, or we assume the Shape can hop bodies and forms.
Where does the Black Lodge fit in?
Everything comes down to Evil Dead. The Army of Darkness comic crossovers have kinda made it the starting point of connecting the horror movie dots:
>Freddy & Jason (with Halloween, Texas Chainsaw, and Psycho references mentioned in FvJvA: Nightmare Warriors)
>Re-Animator (the original Lovecraft version, not the film version) and the Cthulhu mythos
>Hack/Slash
>Child's Play/Chucky (doesn't have a direct Evil Dead connection, but can be connected via the Hack/Slash crossover)
>Halloween Man (again, no direct ED crossover, but is connected by Hack/Slash)
>The Living Corpse (via Hack/Slash)
>Evil Ernie/Original Chaos Comics Universe (via Hack/Slash, during a multiversal crossover)
>Dynamite's "Classic Monsters" (Dracula, Van Helsing, Frankenstein, Eva: Daughter of Dracula)
>Marvel Zombies (though that was a multiverse crossover)
>Vampirella
A lot of the Army of Darkness crossovers are independent of eachother (like the new Bubba Ho-Tep series, Vampirella, KISS, Danger Girl, and Darkman), so I've left those out, but feel free to try to make those fit.
The Black Lodge is actually the Labryinth in another form. Judy is the other side of the eternity that is Leviathan.
>There are many other gods and god-like beings in the Horrorverse
This isn't gonna be like the Pantheon stuff on tvtropes, is it?
Clearly each apocalypse happened but then they got better and rebuilt until the next one happened all over again.
None of the things Tvtropes puts in its pantheons are actual deities in any form, so I don't see why this would be similar. Only actual cosmic entities get slotted as being genuinely powerful here.
If there's no God then what's Christopher Walken from The Prophecy doing?
Morte Mamme is still a thing. She's probably the closest thing to an overall God in this setting.
How do Zombie appocalypses fit in to this? Seperate dimentions?
A zombie apocalypse is like a flu outbreak. They are common and once every decade or so there is a big global scale epidemic.
Are the dynamic duo canon?
I mean, they *could* be. But that leads to the conundrum of God and Amara, multiple Deaths, the Shadow, Lucifer, etc. Not to mention the Scooby-Doo crossover more or less establishing a connection, however minor, to that multiverse too.
Not Friday the 13th for sure
Even if the lawsuit is over no one want to touch it for sure
I can only hope the franchise gets picked back up again someday.
Jason’s got it
Comic?
There's a pretty small list of what's actually capable of putting Jason down, really.
Evil Dead 2: Dark Ones Rising. Our first real look at what the Dark Ones can do in the franchise.
Evil Dead 2: Dark Ones Rising. The creature in question is a giant Cthulhu-like monster made up of souls that fights a spirit snake.
Alternatively, there's different kinds of zombies running aroung.
The classic NOTLD/Walkers are essentially the result of a disease that has been plaguing mankind since prehistory (could tie it to Solanum from the zombie survival guide) and has been happening from time to time in small scales; with stuff like NOTLD being the largest scale outbreak in recorded/recent history.
>Mongols and huns brought the virus with them to China, pressuring the chinese to build the great wall
>Stone age civilizations used to smash skulls as a way to prevent the dead from rising
>Hadrian's wall was built to stop hordes of zombies
>there's a reason several areas of the catacombs of Paris are blocked to tourists
>The maya were wiped out by a zombie outbreak, the same as Roanoke and early viking settlements in the Americas
Now, Russo's zombies are closer to Deadites, as in they're immortal and still retain their consciousness.
There's also voodoo zombies as in the Serpent and the Rainbow; supernatural ones like in Dead Snow and rage zombies being the result of a strange virus (which makes you think about how the 28 days agent is actually supernatural in origin; considering how it is essentially weaponized, viral rage).
Imagine Ernest being so pure that Lady Pinhead falls for him.
That would Be eggcelent
NOTLD walkers are also in actual agony just from existing IIRC. Eating brains spares them from the torture that is merely being.
I like Toulun as the leader, but I guess this happens before his sucide and his evil turn in part 2?
Most likely. He was a good man before his fall.
Do you think Slenderman is in the Necronomicon?
He is sometimes depicted as an ancient evil that's been fucking around with humanity since the beginning of time, depending on which mythos you follow.
If you go by the comic book canon (like I do) the reason why Tulon was evil in part 2 is because his brain was half rotten so he wasn't in the right mindset which was why he was such an asshole to his puppets, he's usually much kinder then that. Also
>Andre and his puppets vs. the Nazi Zombies from Dead Snow
Consider that for a moment.
He only thought it was God but it was Morte Mamme, just like how the archangel from The Curse of El Charro was actually a Harrower.
He's probably in there, yeah. But the Black King prefers his forest. He likely won't come out of it short of say, the other Fears coaxing him out, or Leviathan emerging victorious. Both of which are FUBAR scenarios.
>Brick Bardo goes rogue believing that the Horror Heroes aren't doing enough to combat the Horrors
>pic related storyline ensues only now it's Dollman Kills The Horrorverse
What about Hellboy?
The movie version and his surrounding mythos blend almost perfectly under it. Same for the X-Files.
The Ogdru Jahad seem at place in a world full of lovecraftian entities, demons and dark gods. And the existence of faerie folk like Nuada offer a direct connection to stuff like banshees, the underground realm of Pan's Labyrinth, Cronos and maybe even the fairies from don't be afraid of the dark.
Also, how do vampires and werewolves work in here?
Definitely, perhaps under a different name considering the age in which the Necronomicon was written.
as far i know slenderman could be some "alien" like "the thing" or Necronomicon dude, also in real life some people give a description that fits "slenderman"
Tina Shepard, the telekinetic from the... 7th(?) Friday the 13th would be a good fit. She's a heavyweight, able to toss around Jason with her mind powers and animate a corpse to effectively restrain him for a year. It's not long, but there's nothing to indicate she couldn't do it again.
You might need to specify her limits, so that she doesn't overshadow everyone else, though.
Slenderman has been known by many names throughout his existence. The Black King, Conquest, Der Ritter, Erebus, Farstrider, The Gaunt, King of The Forest, The Being etc. any one of these can fit the Necronomicon.
SlenderMan is basically his modern name, what he's known by now.
>anyone
>overshadowing motherfucking Ashley Williams
Maybe her powers could only work to it's full potential if she's in a state of fear? Telekinesis is typically influenced by emotions. Carrie's powers seems to stem from rage so Tina's could be fear based.
What about fantasy, say like Dagoth from Conan The Destroyer and The Beast from Krull.or a least dark fantasy?
A lot of classical mythology beings are either actual or borderline horror characters. (and lovecraft acknowledges them as minor dieties within or tangential to the mythos)
The idea of dream-based monsters intruding into the realms of imagination also has intriguing possibilities to consider.
>ayy lmao?
The Hellboy universe would definitely be included. Since Hellboy is the rightful king of Hell, does that mean he's Leviathan's son? Would that also mean he has dominion over Pinhead and the Cenobites?
Or maybe all versions of Hell from horror films are real and coexist and Hellboy is from one of them? The Hell of the Lament Configuration would be Super Hell, still making Leviathan Satan-God of the Horrorverse.
jeepers creeprs what would be ?
What if Hell is similar to that of the divine comedy, with each layer being ruled by a different demon? The Leviathan could be at the bottom, being the end boss Satan-God.
The third movie points out that the Creeper is stupidly ancient, having been around since at least biblical time periods. Its method of survival also literalky involves eating and incorporating the organs and bodyparts of other things to prolong its own life. All in all, its clearly some kind of demon.
It isn't quite as Evil as someone like Freddy though. It's shown to have some standards, and even grudging respect for those victims who swallow their fear and fight back against it (still kills them though).
That works perfectly. I'm not too familiar with the Divine Comedy, how many layers of Hell are described in it? We could probably put one Satan-type character from horror fiction to rule each one, like the Deadite Queen in one layer, the Demon King from The Gate in another etc.
havent read it since high school but i think there were 9, starting with limbo then going through the seven deadly sins and ending in the last level which was reserved for those who committed treason/traitors, guys like brutus iirc but its been years so i could be wrong
also, watching this thread got me wanting to watch hellraiser and i gotta say, i love the practical effects they used back in the day, same with F13, cgi just cant compete against good practical effects
According to quick google fu:
Circle I: Limbo
Resided by virtuous non-Christians and unbaptized pagans
Circle II: Lust
The souls here are punished by being blown about violently by strong winds, preventing them to find peace and rest.
Circle III: Gluttony
Sinners lie rotting away in a never ending icy rain, overlooked by a worm-monster Cerberus.
Circle IV: Greed
The inhabitants drag about heavy weights and boulders with their chest all the time.
Circle V: Anger
The wrathful fight each other on the surface of the river Styx.
Circle VI: Heresy
The heretics were souls who did not agree to the Christian doctrine. They are lying in burning tombs.
Circle VII: Violence
The 7th circle is divided into 3 rings—outer are murderers sinking into boiling blood, the middle are the suicides who turned into bleeding trees, and the inner ring are blasphemers and sodomites who reside in a desert of burning sand and are scorched by burning rain falling from above
Circle VIII: Fraud
This circle of Hell is divided into 10 Bolgias or stony ditches with bridges between them. Each bolgia has a different kind of fraud and punishment such as whipped by demons, steeped in excrement etc.
Circle IX: Treachery
The betrayers are stuck frozen in a lake of ice. The lake consists of 4 rings, with the last level resided by Lucifer, Brutus, Cassius and Judas.
Then where does the White Lodge, and the Fireman fit in?
I had forgotten the.comics, think I'll check them out tonight.
The Puppet Master comics are kino. You can tell they were made by die hard fans, they actually explain all the retcons and inconsistencies and tie up all the loose ends. Too bad the entire arc concerning The Collector character was cancelled and they had to skip over it and just briefly went explained what happened during the badass Puppet War we never got to see.
But all in all, if you like the Puppet Master the comics are a great read.
Vampires and werewolves have evolved side by side with humanity and they were both natural enemies that are constantly at each other throats, so much so that there was a vampire / werewolf war in ancient times, things have mellowed out since then but they still consider each other rivals. There are both good and evil werewolves and vampires, some try to co-exist with humans while others just consider humans food. Dracula of course is the undisputed king of vampires and all vamps are under his heel. Werewolves act more like actual wolf packs with each pack having a "top dog" and no undisputed master of their whole race.
Thanks, I'm glad to hear they had some effort put into them.
The White Lodge is obviously where entities like Morte Mamme gather to plan their counterstrikes against the forces of darkness. The Fireman is running the show whilst Morte has been busy directing her Harrowers.
That's Return of the Living Dead.
>"We have such sights to show you, such pleasures to give you."
>Ernest: "Woah little lady I like to take things slow."
>A chain shoot out and almost hit Ernest's head
>Earnest "EwWwWw"
The Crow would work together with the Horror Heros every now and again. Other horror protags like Tommy Jarvis, Hellboy and The Monster Squad would team up with them too.
I'd throw in whatever's haunting Amityville, but I think it changes with every film.
There's the Blair Witch, though the video games revealed that she's subservient to an entity called Hecaitomix.
So where do Gremlins, Critters and Ghoulies fall in this nightmare place?
All horror creatures are either creations of Leviathan or they are one way or another related to it, Leviathan craves carnage and pain. Alien beings like Critters, Xenomorphs, Predators etc. evolved naturally and weren't created by Leviathan but they are influenced by it to come to Earth so it can feed off of the pain and fear they cause.
Gremlins/Mogwai could be anything between supernatural creatures or naturally evolved ones. Ghoulies are demons, thus they were most likely created by Leviathan directly.
If you're wondering how Kaijus like Godzilla fit in I direct you to this post
Either created by great evils like Leviathan as said, or 'naturally' evolved into what they are now.
Do Predators sometimes go demon hunting?
Predator vs Hellraiser
Definately. Predators flex by hunting, always going after bigger and badder prey, makes sense that the Predators would go after the legions of hell next.
>The Predator race finds the Necronomicon
>proceeds to summons demons and Deadites specifically to hunt them
I think it makes sense that it's always the same entity haunting Amityville. It's such a powerful demon that it makes a whole town it's haunting grounds. And by going by Amityville Dollhouse it looks like one bad motherfucker.
Opens a lot of possibilities. Ever read The Light at the End by John Skipp? It presents the argument of classic vampires a la Dracula being annoyed/amused at how the american vampires behave (think the Lost Boys).
All in all, there could be a coven of different vampire families/clans/breeds under Dracula. An amalgam of the houses of Blade and the covens of Underworld, along with the stylish vamps from AHS and guys like Lestat and his crew.
Usually opposed to more 'modern' or insane vampires like the bloodthirsty fuckers from 30 Days of Night, the Lost Boys and whatever Salma Hayek was doing in Dusk till dawn.
also
>yfw Vigo the Carpathian probably went toe-to-toe with OG Dracula at some point in history
Do the King Novel characters exist here? Because I could see The Mother of the Null from Revival as a rival to the Leviathan
Necronomicon aside, the Tobin spirit guide in the Horrorverse has to be the most amazing shit ever.
Based
>Circle IX: Treachery
Lucifer and Judas I get, but what the fuck are Brutus and Cassius doing on the same level?
>Ernest isn't scared of the Cenobites at all and starts using the box to drop in on them constantly just like he does with Vern
It keeps altering history and reality within the town's limits or beyond, explaining every inconsistency.
I refer you to this post
Actually disregard that post, we have included all other horror properties as well. Basically if it's related to the horror/sci-fi genre, its part of the Horrorverse.
add tommy jarvis and the psychic from the 7 movie
How would fit vampires or gargoyles un the universe ?
BRAAAP
See now I wonder how Ernest, Abbott, and Costello together handle each horror film.
Countess Maya (Dracula's daughter) probably runs shit when Dracula isn't around but is constantly trying to revive him because she knows he's the rightful Prince of Darkness.
Also the Dracula from Monster Squad was just an imitator no way that the king of vampires could be taken down by a bunch of little shits, maybe when the kids are older and have more experience in taking down monsters.
>Freddy vs Jason vs Ash tried the horror movie survivor squad idea
>killed most of them
Lame
Isn't Toxie as durable as Jason? I mean I don't think Toxie could rip off Jason's limbs as easily as he would do to regular humans.
Could Devil May Cry fit here?
>the Cenobites are both confused, angry and aroused. All at the same time
Post scenarios happening in the Horrorverse.
>Jason is taken in by Ruth and her family of mutant freaks from the Basket Case films and feels right at home with a kind woman that reminds him of his mother and the entire family of freaks like him. Ruth of course uses Jason to enforce her message of treating freaks with respect to the public.
>Chucky rallies nearly all of the killer dolls, puppets and toys of the whole Horrorverse into a massive army and Andre Toulon and his puppets now have to stop them.
>Ernest vs. the Killer Klowns from Outer Space
>Leviathan is so impressed by the amount of torture and pain that John Kramer has caused that he turns him into a Cenobite after his death.
Yeah that sequel comic was so shitty that I wouldn't consider it canon, especially since Freddy vs Jason vs Ash was actually a really good comic.
Alice Johnson is the best final girl and should be on the team
>Sam from Trick R Treat picks fights with Michael Myers
>Tiffany Valentine ended up dating several slashers during Chucky’s death, including Freddy Krueger, and he brags about fucking her to Chucky whenever he can
>Leatherface and Baby Firefly get married in order to unite the Hewitt and and Firefly clans
>Good ideas
>Sam from Trick R Treat picks fights with Michael Myers
I like this idea
kek
Ernest vs leviathan
How would Be the vs?
>Tiffany Valentine ended up dating several slashers during Chucky’s death, including Freddy Krueger, and he brags about fucking her to Chucky whenever he can
I like this idea, but it needs the twist that it never actually happened, Tiffany made it up to fuck with Chucky and Freddy took the ball and ran with it.
I like Don Mancini's idea for the Freddy vs Chucky movie:
>My idea for the movie is to do it as a horror movie version of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. It’s called Child’s Play on Elm Street. Chucky ends up in the bedroom of a house on Elm Street. And Freddy meets him there. And they’re, like, fans of each other. So they have this rapport. But then they realize Elm Street isn’t big enough for the two of them. It only can contain one killer.
If you keep that idea in as a backstory I think it just makes Freddy and Chucky's later interactions funnier and Chucky would be seething over losing to Freddy and finding out that Freddy may have fucked Tiffany.
Freddy and Chucky have great chemistry, but the problem is that Freddy being primarily confined to dreams and Elm Street are huge creative limits for this kind of story.
Does Chucky even Sleep?
That's a good question, would he even need to? I can't remember since I haven't seen the films in a long time. I wonder how Mancini would've addressed that.
That actually could be a good point, maybe we resolve the issue by having Chucky pull Freddy out of the dream realm via voodoo (he consults Tiffany's book or the internet or something) so Freddy can't play by his bullshit dream non-rules.
That sounds ideal
well if chucky can "bleed" , if means that maybe he can sleep ?
if it's freddy that took/stole all the powers from the necromonium he can do reality warping outside of the dream world also.
regular freddy in the real world would just be confined to his own craftiness and his knive glove
>regular freddy in the real world would just be confined to his own craftiness and his knive glove
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Yeah but that involves Mortal Kombat shenanigans. And does it count since it's the reboot version?
>"A malevolent spirit of the Dream Realm, Freddy Krueger preys on the souls of the living as they sleep. When Shao Kahn began to steal Earthrealm's souls - souls Freddy considered his own - Freddy battled the emperor in the Dream Realm. But Shao Kahn's will was too strong. He pulled Freddy into the real world, where he was mortal, and defeated him. A badly injured yet determined Freddy fitted both his hands with demonically enhanced razor gloves. Once he has killed Shao Kahn, he will find a way back to the Dream Realm, where he will torment Earthrealm's souls for eternity."
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child's play 1 stated that the longer his soul resided in the doll body. the more 'human' like the doll body would become.
so he can bleed/die and probaly can eat and shit also.
hell he got Tiffany pregnant in bride of chucky and jerked off in seed of chucky so they could artificially inseminate jennifer Tilly.
he can sleep
>Holy Numerals
Trying to Hypercrises dark universes like this together seems like a bad idea, but it looks like Hope burns bright even here....
Could Scooby Doo (at least one of the less crazy incarnations) be part of this? How about Keanu's Constantine or Buffy?
>The mutants of the hills have eyes have the tables turned on them as Graboids being to show up in their desert
>The vampire women Santo fought in the sixties are actually Satanico Pandemonium and the vampires from dusk till dawn
>There's an annual witch congress, the different covens dread the Great Witch of England showing up because she's always ranting on how they must kill children
Mystery Incorporated for sure.
"Hypercrisis" ,Guys! guys.. What if OP is Grant Morrison
What exactly is Hypercrisis?
Connecting / mapping-out a multiverse like this and inevitably running into crazy synchronicity along the way. Since all this shit is 'real' in some Platonic way and represents true Cosmic Intelligences / gods, of course our minds would become doorways for their influence. Capital-H Hope (the Superman Though Robot) keeps most of this shit at bay, though, so it's not too dangerous. Keep Surviving, don't vent your hate and anger on innocents and everything should be Groovy.
meant for
Holy Shit, you are right.
It does burns bright.
>Mike just ignores the little shit completely, shrugging off everything thrown at him
Jesus.
How many of these are actually worth watching?
>777
"Deep Breaths"
Freddy isn't the best dad around, gotta say.
he can be nice. it's just he has little patience
and jason being a literal retard isn't helping things.
but he did keep his end of the bargain and made jason intelligent. and in the sequel comic he even fixed jason's body after he was nearly falling apart from all the damage he had taken from FvJ to that point.
Leviathan would probably be interested (in so far as something like it can be) in his abilities to retain hope in even the worst situations, and to survive said situations.
It probably sets him up as a means of drawing annoyance and frustration from the other Hell denizens.
>Your oversized retarded cancerous noggin.
Holy Fucking Shit.
Mystery Inc as "real-life" Scooby-Doo while there's a cartoon based on their stories that Supernatural crosses over with.
The TL;DR is that stories write themselves.
>Predators keep a cube puzzle as one of their hunting trophies
Hot take: Robocop belongs in the horrorverse because of the thematic parallels between him and other movie monsters
Well he has crossed over with Terminator which has crossed over with Aliens and Predator, so probably
>They forbid magic in any way in order to stop evil magical shit from spilling into their planet. Main reason they hunt humans is because they don't fear magic, they see humans as brave and stupid as shit.
hell predators and aliens have also crossed over with witchblade and the darkness
>Leviathan's morse-code beeping shifts slightly from "G.O.D." to "S.O.O.N."
>Mulder and Scully investigate an alien encounter in the jungle with a navy seal that may be connected to a later incident with a cop
That's a sexy predator.
>every horror movie a week later is X-Files crew showing up and going what the hell happened here?
Imagine the sheer amount of work Cigarette Smoking Man must do to cover all this shit up.
all hail the queen
>hey didn't the statue of liberty come alive yesterday
>no statues can't do that
>but I saw it walking around towards the museum
>parade float by Macys
Freddy does not mince words.
You could take the idea that "Every town has an Elm street", the dream verse and dream demons and allow him to go anywhere there's teens and children dreaming. The dream verse is so underdeveloped you can easily flesh it out to fix that limitation.
Freddy's daughter siding with him was so stupid and forced.
>John becoming a cenobite.
>already hints of a Jigsaw cult in the last movie.
This works way too well.
How does Judy fits all this?
We're not going to talk about Judy.
She hot
Judy ? The blonde ?
>talking about Judy
>tfw every horror piece just continously gets proven to be more and more canon to each other
>the OCP came up with Robocop after reverse engineering the tech taken from the ship and the monsters in Virus, and eventually discovering how to fuse living tissue and machines.
>Tech that is still used in the far future, as seen on Jason X
Who is judy ?
>Predators vs. the slug zombies from Slither/Night of the Creeps
>This Friday only in a mask vs. mask match: El Santo vs. Leatherface vs. Jason
>The Leprechaun is constantly bugging the Djinn from Wishmaster to grant him more gold to the point where the Djinn is desperately looking for someone to wish for gold to no longer exist
>At a small roadside bar, a man named Duncan MacLeod tells his stories of his encounters with vampires throughout his long life to a man named Edgar Frog
Might wanna add Michael in that Santo fight. Trinidad de Terror is just too appealing.
I hope this whole thing gets compiled into a single document with timelines, connections, summaries.
Biggest bad in the Twin Peaks setting. Real fucking bad news.
Forgot all about Michael. Guess El Santo is taking 3 masks.
Best part is that he can still be called Jigsaw since that is a very Cenobites sounding name.
>Cenobite Jigsaw is doing so well in pleasing Leviathan with his torture that Pinhead starts becoming jealous, thinking he's his master's new favorite
I want to make a pastebin but my device doesn't let me copy and paste large amount of words and I'm not dedicated enough to type down every single thing everyone has said. I do suggest that someone saves all these ideas in a pastebin or something though.
I would imagine that at some point in this universe that supernatural shit would become common knowledge since shit happens globally every single day and there is some shit you can't cover up, like how the hell are you gonna write off say the events of Destroy All Monsters as mass hysteria or weather balloons?
The Bureau of Paranormal Research and Defense would become a publicly known organization and The Horror Heroes would most likely be formed by the world government. Teams like the Ghostbusters and the Monster Squad would also get backing from the government.
Speaking of X-Files, there was a comic from IDW where the Lone Gunmen encounter the Ninja Turtles, Transformers, The Crow (a different version made for this event though), and Ghostbusters.
The Transformers in that universe were the Hearts of Steel versions (where Optimus fought an Elder God in Infestation 2), but they don't really explain how their conflict was so secret that the Lone Gunmen weren't aware of them.
the ending of Conspiracy erases the events of the crossover, but doesn't erase that all those characters exist in that universe
Do the Men in Black exist in this universe?
name?????
H.E.A.T from the Godzilla 98 cartoon would be the Horrorverse's first response to a Kaiju attack in the states since Japan already has Jet Jaguar, multiple good Godzillas and other benevolent Kaiju to defend them.
Well now, we’re not gonna talk about Judy. In fact, we’re not gonna talk about Judy at all, we’re gonna keep her out of it.
Shit dude, I forgot all about El Santo. He'd be the one of the Horror Heroe's newest recruits, along with The Crow, Tommy Jarvis and Andy Barcley.
I would pay any amount of money to see Ash and El Santo in the same place. The interactions sound SO GOOD
Yes
No thanks, get fucked retards
>when even other demons don't want to deal with Leviathan
Just how bad is Leviathan amongst the demonic circles to warrant such a response?
How do you have Vampirella on here, and not Dawn?
He's a really, really fucked up God. Like if God and Satan had a baby, it'd be Leviathan.
Doesn't help that he's essentially indestructible. Even the only thing ever shown to harm him throughout the entire franchise (completing the Lament Configuration whilst in Hell) only stuns him for an instant.
Busta Rhymes could beat him
I'd pay to see Ash paired up with most of the major horror heads.
Leviathan is a very very very bad dom. Who will find out what absolutely, positively is not your fetish and subject you to it, ceaselessly, because that is Leviathan's fetish. Because Lev's the only one who gets to have fun here. There's a reason Frank wanted out.
I like the idea that Night of The Creeps and Slither are the same alien slugs. That's canon now.
>You now have the fetishes of vore and male lactation (of blood), courtesy of Leviathan
>What? You don't like those fetishes? Well too bad. It doesn't matter what you like. Leviathan likes this, and you'll learn to like it too
she hot ? who is ?
Morrigan Aensland from Darkstalkers, a horror-themed fighting game by Capcom. She's a succubus.
El Santo would be off doing his own thing along with Blue Demon and ocassionally team up with the Horror Heroes.
I like to think that the Night of the Creeps slugs are Slither's slugs that some dumb ayys were experimenting on and unleashed by accident.
God, that sped up run shit freaks me right the fuck out, I just find it so goddamn unnerving.
From what movie this come from?
Amityville Dollhouse. It's the 8th Amityville film and I think it's the first film in the series that actually shows what the demon looks like.
What about the Tommy Westphall universe?
Is Tommy basically Azathoth?
have you seen the movie? its pretty fucking creepy. movies called mama
shame konami aborted silent hills, a horror game with the expertise and drawing skill of del toro and juni ito with kojima directing would've been godly and saved the franchise
That'd be a universe more focused on the TV side of things, wouldn't it? I think it'd have a different setting compared to the Horrorverse.
I assume for having been responsible in killing Caesar, I guess?
Yeah, that could work seeing as how, though they're similar in a lot of ways, they're also pretty different in how they tend to operate.
We've pretty much decided that the whole Horrorverse encompasses all things related to the horror and sci-fi genre movies, books, television etc.
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So where does The Event Horizon link in
Yeah, so I think it should be separate from the Tommy Westphall universe.
There was a demon in 3D but it looked kind of retarded.
But Leviathan is a Fallen Angel. You have to have God for that
>guy moves into the Amityville house
>all the usual sheningans happen
>somehow the guy manages to survive
>he decides he needs a vacation after all that, maybe a nice place whit a lake where he can go fishing
>"Hey look at this small tourist town: Silent Hill, now that's a relaxing name!"
>the trip is very long by car, bul luckily he can just stop at the Bates Motel down the road.
I always liked the idea of someone so unlucky he just happens to accidentally move to every haunted house/town in existence.
I don't really remember I Know what you did last summer but whats that dudes deal
the car he's driving is Christine
also the tv in the Bates Motel shows nothing but Videodrome
The blackboard from Freddy's Dead could be fun to use through time travel shenanigans.
Pic is shit but there is some fun stuff in there, such as Freddy discovering America, fighting in the war of 1812, preventing the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and maybe killing Elvis (Freddy vs. Bubba Ho-Tep ?)
I think he ended up being a zombie around the last movie
i think .....
the same timeline of prometheus
the dimension the ship whent too is basicly a sort of hellraiser hell.
so it would be a easy to link hellraiser and event horizon.
>jason wakes up from a nap and walks passed a broken mirror and stops
>notices various things scrawled on his mask along with a big heart
>takes his mask off and around what remains of his lips is red lipstick
>storms into another room where freddy is sleeping on the sofa, trows his machette and impales freddy.
>"aaggh what the fuck did you do that for?"
>jason holds up his mask and points to it and his face
>"so your girlfriend finally kissed you?"
>jason points at freddy and taps his own face
>freddy looks in a mirror, sees various things scrawled on his face also.
>"which motherfucker did this!?"
>they hear a noise from behind jason, it's the tv with sadako being stuck because someone put transparant tape over the screen.
>cue to outside a distance away, chucky sitting on michael myers shoulders laughing his ass off
Could a Hotel transelvania style horror style serie work?
Pinhead and the other cenobites run the place
Pinhead - owner
butterball - chef
lady cenobite - reception
chatterer - bell boy/piccolo
freddy, jason, michael, chucky etc could be guest or employees
oh i like this idea
damn it's been ages since i saw that movie
Aliens and Predators have shown to exist in the Mortal Kombat world along with Freddy, Jason, and Leatherface, Aliens and Predatots have shown to also exist in the Capcom world that has the Darkstalkers
skynet was reversed engineered from robocop...
you wanna open that can of worms?
Just a reminder that Lev is actually scared of God and is ready fo His judgement.
and aliens and predators have crossed over with dc universe like batman and green lantern. and they also have crossed over with mortal kombat world
There's multiple Aliens and Predator crossovers:
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There was also a Predator miniseries that involved Mycroft Holmes, too. I forget the title.
>Thought Robot was made specifically to beat the shit out of entities like the horrorverse.
So what ships happen in Horrorverse?
Alien predator
The thing in virus was an extraterrestrial intelligence that wanted to propagate and assimilate all living things on Earth. Robocop could have been reverse-engineered from it; same as other movie cyborgs and androids.
Turns out the alien intelligence was dormant or its 'code' was the basis for Skynet. In a world full of horrors, vampires, demons, zombies, werewolves and other creatures; the most logical solution for self-preservation was nuking the whole planet and then scooping up the remains.
In an alternate post-apocalyptic horrorverse, you could have the likes of Ash waking up in the destroyed future from Army of Darkness, Tempus from Ghostbusters ruling a destroyed NYC full of ghosts; things like Metro or Mutant Chronicles.
jason x sadako seems rather popular.
or are you talking about actual ships? like that haunted ship from the movie Ghost Ship
Hey speaking of post-apocalyptic alternate timelines, how would the Terminators deal with Tempus from Ghostbusters?
>>"Hey look at this small tourist town: Silent Hill, now that's a relaxing name!"
So, which other fictional places exist aside from Silent Hill? Was Raccoon City a thing in the horrorverse?
Pairings
I don't think Skynet could deal with him. Unless they somehow managed to find the ruins of the Ghostbusters' HQ and find a way to engineer an army of Terminators with proton guns. Or probably leaving him to his own, since machines aren't technically living things and Tempus wouldn't mess with them.
>also, that stupid post-apocalyptic wasteland from the Resident Evil movies could be totally a thing; with underground Umbrella acting as a deterrent to Skynet
Bubba Ho-Tep took place in the early 00's, right? So Freddy definitely didn't kill the real Elvis.
Also Bubba Ho-Tep makes a reference to Tana leaves, which comes from the Universal Mummy series.
The humanity of the Horrorverse must be one tough sob.
This is also what I'm wondering about, how do all the other monsters and ghosts and things deal with the apocalyptic worlds. Like for instance suppose the Romero timeline happens, what do the various Draculas do? And does Freddy die out if Terminators murdered every human on the planet?
>Do Terminators Dream Of Electric Sheep?
I believe James Gunn drew inspiration from Night of the Creeps. Btw, here's a few other fun things that could go on in Horrorverse that I just thought up:
>Freddy and Chucky run a podcast with ocassional guest Scott Steiner, who only does the show because him and Chucky worked together in WCW
>Christmas is actually a more feared holiday than Halloween thanks to the Krampus, numerous killer santas, and the evil demon Santa Bill Goldberg
>Thanks to Pennywise, the Killer Klowns from outer space, and Art the Clown, all clowns are shot on sight in most cities
>Indian burial grounds are kept under extreme security measures to avoid people burying their dead relatives there
Vampires are easy. A few years ago, Romero and Marvel made a miniseries called Empire of the Dead. It takes place 30 years after the original NOTLD, and reveals that not only vampires were real in that universe; but also ended up taking the reins after the zombie uprising and established small fortress cities full of human cattle.
Werewolves are a tricky one. Either they survive on small packs living off wild animals, or the zombie virus does a nasty work on them and we're stuck with zombie werewolves.
Other monsters are easy to do. Leatherface goes down after he's mobbed by zombies. Jason is ignored by the undead. Pennywise starves. Chucky might be trickier, since he's a living doll but filled with human flesh; and zombies might try to go after him. Freddy goes to that weird dream limbo/hell, since there's always pockets of human survivors even in the bleak future of Terminator. Ghosts and other supernatural entities wonder what the fuck happened and continue with their unlives.
silent hill how would fit in the universe ?
Chucky would be even trickier thans to Curse of Chucky and being able to inhabit multiple dolls now. An army of Chuckies vs. a zombie horde would be neat.
>killed his wife for cheating on him
>killed his daughter's boyfriend because he blamed him for her death
>went after the kids who nearly killed him, along with anyone who got in his way
>became a weird ghost thing in the final film
What if Andy survives the zombie apocalypse and Chucky finds out? Chucky rallying an army of himself to storm the community or compound where Andy lives. The commotion also causes a zombie horde to crash the party.
>Pennywise starves.
Would he travel back in time to warn himself? He's a cosmic entity, right?
What can it do to prevent a zombie apocalypse or the rise of Skynet? It's confined to Derry (or a small rural region of Maine if we consider how he was capable of taking Bowers out of jail), and even then, it probably does not know what or who exactly triggered the world-ending scenario.
I imagine Andy, being the insane prepper motherfucker that he is, planned to be found and has the whole place rigged to blow.
The first one.
>Hello, McFag, you in there?
Here's another question, which movie monster would be smart enough and so badly affected by the post-apocalyptic timelines that they'd be willing to go back in time to prevent the zombie apocalypse or Skynet or whatever?
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goddam eddie deezin
It is a game ?
>realizing all the murders from the machines and the zombies mean they won't have a humanity to scare/feed of anymore, monsters and humans put their differences aside for the very first time to fight their common enemy together.
>human soldiers and Ghostbusters do most of the military work while monsters handle more difficult/high risk
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And, since it's sci-fi/has monsters, we can have the half-life games taking place in this apocaliptic wasteland.
And if we have half-life, we have portal.
So now we can stage a final IA battle between Skynet and GlaDos, because robots just aren't the same as humans when it comes to test subjects.
Derry is a literally a part of IT. IT doesn't need Derry to survive, because Derry is just a piece of it constructed to snag food for IT, one formed when it crash-landed on Earth and wiped out the dinosaurs.
The main body of IT is a cosmic entity of terrible proportions existing outside the universe. It's up there with the other cosmic demons in terms of threat.
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There's no indication in the entire franchise (outside of Judgement) that there's any form of supreme power in the cosmos outside of Leviathan. Sure, there's Morte Mamme, but it's implied that she's weaker than her brother overall.
>games
>yfw Deathclaws were engineered by private military contractors before the nuclear war, taking a cue from both Ingen and Umbrella's gene splicing work, as well as the papers on the creation of Dren
>The Incredible Melting Man was, actually, the first reported case of ghoulification in human beings
>in the wastelands, survivors tell stories of impossible reptilian predators strong enough to fend off werewolf packs and tearing Terminators apart with their claws.
Weaponized Deathclaws against the demons sounds likr a great idea.
how powerful is he
Wouldn't Pennywise just do whatever he did in The Stand? IT and The Stand are already King universe canon.
so he was some monster ?
I like the idea of the Horrorverse having most of the horror unknown to the public by massive insanely huge government cover ups. The unknown aspect and not just being able to call 911 and say, "Hey, Jason is out again." is one of the big parts of horror and the respective horror works.
Also its kind of amusing if the government is out there covering up Godzilla from existing. And all the heroes have to work out of public eyes not as celebrities.
>Men in Black send Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones to Tokyo to deal with Godzilla's mess.
>Tommy Lee stands on the roof of a building scolding Godzilla about his mess they have to deal with as Smith in the background speaks poor Japanese to civilians.
No, he was just a human psychopath, at least in the first two movies. Part 3 was initially a script called "The Hook" about some urban legend that was (badly) rewritten to create a cheap DTV sequel. So he is some killer prior to the movies, he survive the event of Part 1 (but lose a hand), try to get revenge in Part 2 with his son only to be killed for good and become a ghost in Part 3 for some stupid reasons and got his hand back somehow.
At this point, most government and intelligence agencies have access to the MIB's mindwipe tech to prevent monsters and world-ending scenarios hidden from the public.
Vampires and witches probably have their own ways to remain hidden. Same for the faerie folk and monsters, they have their ways to remain out of human sight. Places like the troll market from Hellboy are hidden under major population centers, tho.
>Hey, Taro is that the guy from Boss coffee?
>Could all of you kind Japanese folk look right here for a new coffee line announcement
>*flash*
Wonder if the Cabin in the Woods branch of the government gets along with the MiB.
I suspect that the Japs would have common knowledge of him though. To everyone else, he's some kind of conspiracy theory. To Japan? He and his buddies are an average Tuesday.
The different Godzilla continuities when Japan first encounters Godzilla are the results of the US government cracking down on cover ups and getting the Japanese government to wipe the citizens knowledge of him. That's why occasionally nobody has heard of him before.
Which explains why Americans and the French mistook the giant iguana from Polynesia, calling it Godzilla during the 1998 incident.
>reboot origin stories are the MiB erasing all evidence of the first movie happening and then it happening again seemingly for the first time
I like this.
>There's this demon hunter that the various demons hate and/or fear.
>It's mostly due to the fact his dad betrayed them some centuries ago.
>It doesn't help he's the biggest smart ass in the universe.
Pennywise is completely and utterly lazy, caring only for eating and sleeping. IT won't do anything other than use Derry as its equivalent of KFC unless something *really* pisses IT off.
So what did Pennywise do in The Stand when Derry would have been killed off?
chucky vs annabelle
it'd be fun to have Chucky, Jason, Michael, Freddy and someone navigating the Final Destination universe and constantly being upended by a invisible grim reaper playing mouse trap
Predator Nemesis
what was the engenieer (prometheus) ?
Maker of man
Turns out they don't like us vary much
So, where does he fit in all of this? Is he simply just a blip in the grand scheme of things?
So has anyone seen the "story Mod" to this, most of them are all intertwine
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There's the Boom comics, including the ones written by Clive, plus The Scarlet Gospels.
So long as you can hide any direct evidence of them it can be explained as oh its an urban legend.
Jason doesn't really exist thats just some local story occasionally someone goes out and scares some kids for fun.
Larger stuff like Godzilla is harder to cover up but pre smart phones it would still be possible. All the west would hear is oh a big earthquake hi Japan and fucked them up.
I feel like things like the Ghost Busters proving ghosts are real to NY and the shit that happens there actually would be where shit starts to fall apart. Like oh fuck we can't cover this up anymore its getting out.
Teleports, manipulates technology, shrugs off things like being blasted with a shotgun, re-materializes if somehow killed.
As a ghost thing he's seemingly limited to only killing the people whose actions summoned him, though, plus those aware of whatever secret/cover-up the summoning involved.
Ghost Busters are a bit of celebrities right? They could be like those real world reality tv shows we have now like Ghost Hunters and most people assume they are fake performances.
That would require more than you and I to have seen that movie.
It's also not a horror movie.
There's several government branches dealing with specific kind of supernatural beings. Mulder and Scully investigate things at first, only coming into contact with the different departments if the situation escalates into supernatural, extraterrestrial or otherwise beyond the CIA and the FBI's reach.
>The B.P.R.D. deals with demons, monsters and potentially end of the world creatures.
>The MIB monitor extraterrestrial activity on Earth, which has been on the rise since the Roswell incident. (We taking the cartoon or the movie canon?)
>And the Cabin in the Woods dudes must commit their ritual to prevent the Ancient Ones and other horrors from rising. The cubes are just a prison of many things captured by the other branches and employed as assets for the ritual or other purposes.
Other organizations (both private and government funded) dealing with horror all over the world include the Center from Martin Mystery, the vampire hunting squads from Underworld, Jack Crow's vampire hunters, the Bioterrorism Security Assessment Alliance from Resident Evil, Red Shield from Blood+ and the Ghostbusters, among others.
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What do you count it as?
Who is your Horror waifu and why isn't it Blood Widow?
After a point, it becomes impossible to coverup what the GBs fight. It was already difficult enough with Gozer's first manifestation, but with things like literal boogeymen trying to devour the souls of all of New York's kids, multiple Stay Puft re-manifestations, Saint Puppy and other in a fucking with whole cities, Tiamat, etc? Yeah, you'd need to erase the memories of everyone on a global scale to cover that shit up.
>we taking the cartoon or movie canon?
Both, the events of the MiB cartoon take place between 2 and 3. J was reinstated sometime after two as well where she became a scientist rather then a field agent.
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Men in Black 2 do almost exactly that at the end.
That she is.
They do? I haven't really seen the movie in a long time, so I couldn't exactly tell you.
Yeah the Statue of Liberty torch is a giant memory device they use.
>Aliens and Predatots have shown to also exist in the Capcom world that has the Darkstalkers
Whaaaaa?
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The human woman has popped up in the back ground of a Street Fighter game
Near as I can tell, he'd be just another victim of the old Faustian contract routine- hardly uncommon in a universe like this.
The real question is who or what Paul Williams' character was under contract to.
How do cryptids like Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster fit into all this?
I say we go Legend of boggy creek
Horror film versions, like Abominable and The Loch Ness Horror.
>among others
Does the SCP foundation collab with the others or are they a wild card?
Good question
Ok so what if things have mostly been isolated enough to be unnoticed or covered up.
A few things get out but they are so absurd nobody really believes it, Its all urban myth shit.
Then suddenly these asshols in New York expose that Ghosts are totally real. So they come in and try to discredit them and they are busted down to some kids act. THEN they fucking do it again. But this time your kinda fucked and can't cover it up.
So ghosts are known to exist but there still are some sceptics. Now as technology moves forward and the world gets more and more connected there are consistently growing incidents in which people are finding this shit.
Society starts to grow into a panic as they realise that at any moment they could stumble into some shit like this and its been secretly surrounding them since mankind's existence.
I think modern day would be at the point where most people don't believe it but can then believe quickly after seeing once. As well as sustain all those instantly find info on the internet scenes about shit horror movies have for background exposition.
So while most are ignorant and don't believe in any of it they are one personal event and an internet search from being knee deep in it.
Definitely a wild card. The Foundation would be the guys who remain on standby for the worst case scenario happening. Shit like Leviathan gaining more power in the material world and crap like that.
No. The SCPs are too ridiculously OP and they throw the whole thing off.
I think the SCPs work so well because they are contained. The fear of them is the idea that this op shit could escape and cause way more damage. But for now its contained within here.
Most of the truly OP SCPs are either imprisoned, in containment (typically at their own volition and only barely, but still), asleep, or will take so long to get here and fuck us that it doesn't matter. Most are also in other universes, and we've already established that multiverse theory is pretty firmly in effect for the Horrorverse.
You could just make it so that all the truly overpowered anomalies are rumors to all but the Foundation and maybe some people with scraps of intel.
>Ghostbusters do their thing
>immensely popular
>The world is slowly realizing monsters and other supernatural beings could be real
>Tenagers start emulating their heroes, and going around the country to solve misteryes/finding monsters becomes a routine akin to forming your first garage band with your friends
This way we can explain the Scooby Doo gang and all of its knockoffs existing inside this world.
>Leviathan screeches in geometry
the orginisation that Rayne is part of could also be in.
she's a dhampir that hunts vampires and other monsters
The Brimstone Society. I don't think they were ever really fleshed out besides hunting supernatural threats so we can make it work.
Chucky
Someday I'll catch that filthy animal
predator team up with lara croft or something could work?
Yes something. Like AvsP
If we're throwing video game characters into the mix, then Dante and the rest of Devil May Cry would fit very well but they'd also be super OP.
Predators stay busy
Annabelle probably has more hax going for her, but Chucky has all sorts of bullshit of his own. Along with clones. He can probably swarm her.
annabelle is a simple puppet (and the actualy real life puppet is a raggedy ann doll) it's the demon behind the doll that carries it around.
but chucky has op voodoo powers these days. he can take out that shitty demon easy.
they could work but they would indeed be very overpowered.
This setting would have so many things to hunt that any Predator clan or whatever they had would constantly have to defend their hunting right to the planet from other clans who want to take it.
>Hers and Jasons territory is right next to each other so they keep getting into arguments over who gets to kill who when ones victim runs into the others territory.
Well if we got Vampirella we can fit Lady Death in if we want.
>that one time Wario made a deal with a high demon to gain control of all the monsters and killers of the world as well as the 10,000 demon armies of all the Hell Dimensions in exchange for his immortal soul
>he then uses his dominion over all the evils of the Horrorverse just to make money off of movie deals
They stay real busy. Vampires, werewolves, demons, immortal serial killers, no wonder the Predator race love hunting on Earth, it's a goddamn smorgasborg of very varied prey.
Also, do the Predators have an actual name for their kind? I could've sworn one of the comic universes actually gave them a name. That and the Predator race is a matriarchy and the reason males hunt is to please the stronger and more bloodthirsty females. Or was that a fanfiction?
>Also, do the Predators have an actual name for their kind? I could've sworn one of the comic universes actually gave them a name. That and the Predator race is a matriarchy and the reason males hunt is to please the stronger and more bloodthirsty females. Or was that a fanfiction?
They know themselves as the Yautja, though you'll hardly hear them say it aloud. And you're right on the matriarch thing. Their hunts on worlds are both partly for their own pride and honour as "true Yautja", and for impressing their females through their accomplishments.
Well brotha , I think Chucky because he's much more proactive. If I recall correctly Annabelle wouldn't even move if you're watching her, Chucky will get up in your face. So I imagine Chucky would dismember Annabelle pretty quickly and given his knowledge and skill level with voodoo and magic, he'd be able to neutralize any "powers" she might have.
Quick question, if these guys can fit in, what would they be like? How would they stand?
Oof, forgot pic.
I mean he died at the end of his own movie, so maybe just ... being dead.
There's one thing about Freddy that makes all scenarios with him tricky: Is he really just what we see in the movies, or the ancient entity that New Nightmare implies he was. The latter really opens up the character's limitations.
Not exactly horror but Jane Doe from the Batman comics is great.
Something about a kidnap level obsession wanting to be with you or be like you crazy is a bit of a turn on.
They'd be the equivalent of that one guy who has a metric fuckton of weaponry, far beyond what any person should reasonably possess (or could possess), but almost never uses it unless a worst case scenario is already unfolding.
They'd be the Horroverse's nuclear option. You only call them in when shit has well and truly gone FUBAR. And you'll still be left wondering if the cure is any better than the disease when they're done cleaning up.
Quick question, is Jaws part of the horrorverse?
If you count this book, it implies Hellboy had to deal with a "shark thing" in 1975.
Vary much
Gremlin are part Too ??
>Same law applies to weapons like Ash's chainsaw. It was Ash's drive for survival and the hope that it would work that gave an ordinary chainsaw the ability to kill the Deadites, which is why if someone tried to do the same but had no hope, it wouldn't work and they would die.
or maybe ash is like fry from futurama. hes such an idiot he thinks himself as a badass, therefore it must be true! that and being the chosen one
>>Ash Williams (Evil Dead)
>The official team leader who keeps a cool head in a crisis and tries to think logically as a problem-solver, also the guy everyone else looks up to.
you clearly dont know ash...
>horror verse
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>doomguy
i want this NOW GIMME
Obviously. Also Gremlins has a connection to The Howling: News reporter Lew Landers.
Who would win? Jason or Mr. "In PUBG" X?
if we include horror games that adds
>Umbrella Corporation
>Freddy got Fingered Fazbear
>Silent Hill
>Pious Augustus
>SHODAN
>Necromorphs
>A.M.
>Slenderman
>The Entity from Dead By Daylight, probably pisses off Leviathan somehow
X is a bigger jobber then Jason
Mr. X wins because of how fucking strong he is. Consider that he can lift helicopters with his bare hands.
>Manhunt
Half life could Be considered ?
Put Valak from The Conjuring in there.
So...
When does good ol' Shin show up? Concievably, if he's not stopped quickly enough, he could ascend to a level that would be almost near to that of Leviathan.
Do we include the Legendary and Earth Counterparts? Cause always wanted to see Legendary and Shin together
When happens when Slendy ends up in the forest of Moder?
What about Earthbound
Marvel did a Jaws 2 adaptation.
What about it?
The Yautja and the Bounty Hunters from Critters are basically the only thing keeping some of the aliens that could fuck everything over like the monsters from A Quiet Place and the aliens from Rakka.
>the aliens from Rakka
But user, they're not a threat, besides, they built a conservatory.
How would fit in the horrorverse ?
Is it horror related?
Yes , aliens and the final alien(final Boss) was some Sort of demon
no it's not faggot get out
just because a game has SPOOOOOOOOOOOOKY elements doesn't make it horror
it's like saying god of war is a horror game, it isn't
How powerful would a Predator be after harvesting his Autism?
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ya seethe? ding-dong diddly
>it's like saying god of war is a horror game, it isn't
Yet Devil May Cry earlier was ok?
Listen, if you wanna do this right, keep vidya the fuck out unless it's an actual horror game like Silent Hill or started out as one like Resident Evil. Earthbound and Devil May Cry can fuck off, who even suggested DMC?
basically just keep it to horror, we don't wanna go too off track
But comedies like Ernest are ok?
>he doesn't know about ernest scared stupid
That depends on how much horror-related stuff it has.
I've seen it. And it is a comedy first. That's why I am asking why comedy-horror is ok but not action-horror. Please try to at least keep up with what is going on user and at least attempt a discussion.
Keeping it straight horror works better, some games have spook in them, hell Mario has ghosts and skeletons but it shouldn't fit into the Horrorverse. Things like Silent Hill, Clock Tower, and even Dead by Daylight fit and are more revolved around horror
That's what I mean. Silent Hill and Resident Evil are fine because they are focused around horror, but things that are only superficially horror because they have some small element of horror aren't.
At most, the Ernest thing is a joke made purely for laughs and giggles instead of something to actually insert into the universe that is currently being made.
That being said, has anyone seen the Phantasm comics?
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>the universe that is currently being made.
user, I hate to break this to you, but nothing probably is being made. This is just a thread of people talking about fun stuff unless there turns out to be an user writing up a big thing or making artwork they have chosen not to upload yet.
Round 1: Jason is faster than Michael, slightly stronger (I consider this slightly more impressive than this), I think he hits harder, and he's shown better combat skill feats. The main difference however is that Michael is hilariously more durable than Jason: 1 2 3 4 5
Now Myers can still flinch and he can be incapped after taking enough damage, but Jason will be hard pressed to take him down. All of this while any damage Myers inflicts on Jason will do notable damage and could slow him down significantly (as shown in F13 Part III with the leg wound). I favor Myers due to this, but it isn't by much. Like 5.5/10 as Jason can overwhelm him through his superior physical strength and speed
Round 2: Jason is so much stronger that this isn't even fair. Every single feat Myers has done is either replicated or overshadowed by Jason. It'd be pretty one sided
Round 3: Deadite Jason is just a smarter, possibly stronger Zombie Jason. Thorn Myers while stronger attack power wise than most of the other versions, isn't on Deadite Jason's level
Round 4: This is actually very similar to round 1. Jason is faster and more skilled, but Myers is stronger, hits harder (without weapons), and has comparable durability. Jason can win if he gets off an early barrage, but if Myers gets a hold of him, it's game over in my view. Myers would win a majority imo.
Round 5: Composite Myers is pretty comparable to Zombie Jason in almost every area and slightly superior in things like lifting strength if we don't count comics. Uber-Jason is superior to Zombie Jason in every single area, sometimes by a horribly large amount. Myers is incapable of breaching Jason's armor, cannot overpower him, has to try to damage him through his regen, and must avoid being killed in a few hits. This is a really bad stomp in UJ's favor
Round 6: This is Uber-Jason but smarter and will sprint in-character vs the guy he would stomp last round. Jason crushes.
>Michael is hilariously more durable than Jason: 1 2 3 4 5
>Jason: 5
Well yeah he was dead in that one
>There was this thing called the Wold Newton Crossover Universe in which fans were using Philip Jose Farmer's Wold Newton Family Tree and used connections to create a universe. From the horror parts, the book and Universal film versions of various monsters were incorporated in, along with Lovecraft stuff, Evil Dead, Hellraiser, Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th, Halloween, Child's Play, etc. I remembered there was a whole list of connections somewhere.
depending on which version the connections can go rather far and into rather odd places, one version I saw included stuff like Hellsing and Serial Experiments Lain
Guys ,guys guys...... calm down ,lets hold our hands and let's sing
Moder would probably try to stay the fuck away. If the Black King is wandering around, you don't try to antagonize him. Not unless you're looking for the most elaborate method of suicide ever.
>The problem is if everything is in the same universe, how do you explain the multiple zombie apocalypses? Hell, there's even different variations on how Romero's Of The Dead timelines go, it could take place in the 60's (because that was when the original Night of the Living Dead was out) or the 70's (cause that was when Dawn of the Dead was out and they make very specific 70's references). And on top of that there was Return of the Living Dead which treated the original NOTLD as a movie that was "based on a true story." Honestly the multiple timelines/different universes things is the only explanation for them, or claiming that all these movies and tv shows exist in-universe but are exaggerations of what really happened.
I'd assume that Zombie outbreaks do occasionally happen, but they rarely ever reach beyond a couple hundred victims
also Return of The Living Dead should be one of the only films we explicitly exclude from this universe, truly unkillable Zombies is a bad idea for a shared universe
speaking of Halloween, we should definitely include the stuff from Season of The Witch in as well
definitely a lot of non-Kaiju stuff from Japan we can fit in(though personally I feel a lot of the Ghost stuff like Ringu or Grudge should be left out, they'd fit rather awkwardly with the rest of the universe)
I assume that in the Horrorverse that whenever an apocalypse happens, some time travel inevitably happens that undoes it, though there's usually some sort of aftereffect
>I assume that in the Horrorverse that whenever an apocalypse happens, some time travel inevitably happens that undoes it, though there's usually some sort of aftereffect
I like they manage to rebuild and return to civilization and the Men in Black mindwipe the world to think it's the year before the aocalypse happened.
2019 is actually 2089.
The J-horror was talked about last thread, and the only thing that would hurt Halloween 3 stuff from fitting in is the commercial for the first Halloween was in it
>speaking of Halloween, we should definitely include the stuff from Season of The Witch in as well
That can still work considering that the movie takes place in the 80's and we see a movie based on Michael Myers' story, which probably means in the Horrorverse, Carpenter tried to adapt the real-life story about Michael Myers.
>The J-horror was talked about last thread, and the only thing that would hurt Halloween 3 stuff from fitting in is the commercial for the first Halloween was in it
the problem with a lot of J-Horror is well the stuff in it is a tad too OP, most of the stuff we've talked about in this thread is stuff that is either killable or at least can be stopped normally, J-Horror ghosts are just boringly invincible
as for Halloween 3, well see
It honestly wouldn't hurt; Halloween 3 was released in 1982, right? So events would either take place then or 1981 (unless someone has evidence otherwise).
Assuming Michael went on his rampage in 77 (if you want to pretend the movie was released in 78) or 78, there's enough time for someone to think "hey we can make a movie based on this." They only filmed the original within 20 days.
No, they and the other Xmachina/Eibon Press comics have never been scanned.
Then we have our White Whale gentlemen
Kayako and Sadako are fairly limited in terms of range in the starter movies. So long as measures are taken to limit the spread of their power, they'll only be killing anyone dumb enough to fuck with them.
Well, if anyone wants to shell out for the latter, eibonpress.com
I'm really surprised they haven't, are they just really hard for the scanners/rippers to come by?
I was not ready for this
Also Maniac Cop two was going to have the killer from Maniac in it
Speaking of power limiting, what about oddities such as whatever the hell caused the isanity in Pontypool or the spirit world madness in Frequency?
They're pricey, non-digital indie-underground comics that are only available for purchase directly from the creators, so it's unsurprising that nobody's gotten to them.
Oops, I meant White Noise, not Frwquency.
Goddamn it, I'm still remembering the wrong horror moviem Anyone know the name of that one horror movie where spirits keep coming out of electronic devices and killing pwople which ends with the spirits taking over modrn cities?
Didn't both the killers in those movies die? (I know resurrection is common with what we're talking about here, just curious)
Have to read the comic and find out
The movie you're thinking of is Pulse.
There we go. How would we be able to explain that movie in terms of this horrorverse?
Eldrazi again?
Leviathan is far worse than any Eldrazi.
>Also Maniac Cop two was going to have the killer from Maniac in it
Wait, what?
Who is eldoggo ?
>$10 for each standard issue
Goddammit, that's like $30 to get the whole story there
Return of the Living Dead zombies could be explained as deadites, tho. Which is why they retain memories and knowledge, whereas the average viral zombie is a shambling corpse.
Could make sense
Joe Spinell was supposed to play the serial killer in Maniac Cop 2, but then he died.
Dunno if it was supposed to be Frank from Maniac, though.
And now we see why no one's scanned them.
We don't have enough very badass demon warriors in detailed art in comics.
The zombie apocalypse could be explained like in the Image universe crossover thing they did. Basically what is depicted as a world wide apocalypse in The Walking Dead is not worldwide but a big tristate area region thing sectioned off from the rest of the world that characters in The Walking Dead assume is worldwide from being cut off.
What the fuck even IS Slenderman? I thought he was just le spooky ghost. What's this Black King shit I'm hearing about? I never followed this stuff years ago when it was starting so I'm way outta the loop.
He is boogeyman
Which crossover was that one?
Some Image promotional thing. Not actually canon to anything. Think it was the free comic book day I Hate Image comic but I might be wrong.
His origins vary depending on how you ask, but common views on him are;
>is considered one of the Fears, and amongst the most powerful of their number
>can exist in multiple realities simultaneously
>is very very very old. Probably inspired a major portion of Earth's myths and horrors
>is completely unknowable in thought-processes and behavior. Might not even have a 'mind' as we understand it
>cannot be destroyed or really harmed in any way. Merely avoided
>fucks with space-time just by existing. The timeline gets really messed up just by him standing in one spot for a portion of time
>a whole fuckton more that I'm forgetting right now.
One of the more interesting theories I've seen is that he's essentially his own personalized multiverse unto himself. The only reason why everything isn't already him by now is because our reality opposes his mere presence.
He is humanity's bane. He exists to cause fear and pain and has been doing so since the dawn of man, he's been sighted all around the world and is thought to be Omnipresent.
As for "what he is" nobody really knows, he could be a god, a demon, an alien. He's just kind of his own entity.
Kzath umuul, y'gonalac?
All in all, this was a really good thread. Lots of discussion and comfy talk of slasher and horror stuff
Anyone going to make a continuation after this one archives?
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go to bed, son
i won't tell you again
Just a fairy.
Well someone has to do It , wink wink
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