Has anyone read this? thoughts?

Has anyone read this? thoughts?

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I went through a Rick Veitch phase like a decade ago. Read Army@Love, Bratpack, Maximortal, that Aquaman run...

Bratpack felt edgy for edginess's sake. It might have been subversive and had something new to say as a deconstruction of the superhero genre when it was published, but books like Watchmen and The Boys have done it better.

As a huge fan of the Boys I would say it blurs the line between deconstruction and parody, veering more towards parody even.

i heard about it, look weird tho

I read it two days ago for the first time while on the crapper.
I liked how blatantly, stupidly depressing it was.
It was fun, yet needlessly tragic.
The female sidekick was great fap material though.

Maximortal sucked ass though.

As usual with Veitch, the ending was unintelligible.

It was basically just ugly for the sake of being ugly. "What if all of those jokes about Superheroines being sluts, superheroes being steroidal or stoners, and kid sidekicks being gay were REAL?"

Everything it tried to do has been done before, better, and with a better storyline.

Where?

I prefer the original ending.

Do you want the "Superheroes are all corrupt degenerate scumbags" bit? Go for The Boys or Marshall Law.

Do you want the "Superheroes are ineffectual at best and do damage at worst" bit? Watchmen or probably Kickass.

The Boys and Kickiass are garbage, and inferior to Brat Pack. Superheroes in Watchmen are not ineffectual, at all. Quit bullshitting.

What did the superheroes do in Watchmen that actually worked out for the better?

I come out liking it but it's one of those stories I had to give a lot of thought to. There are some elements that will leave people confused as fuck without the context of the King Hell heroica series being a thing.

But I also say it hurt that this comic is called realistic when it's advertised, it's very cartoony in the way that comics of it's time are. It's not really Watchmen for sidekicks, it's an EC comics parody. It's more stuporman and Batboy and Rubin than Watchmen. From it's panel layouts and background jokes. It's an 90's EC comics anthology story and if you can look at it that way you get a lot out of it.

Damn, that's a really good analysis. Thanks, user!

What are the differences in endings?

>new ending
What is the new ending?

>Tfw the King Hell Heroica will never be finished

Buddy, brat pack is much better than The Boys.

>The Boys
>garbage
Ok capeshitter.

No, I want the gay sidekicks one.

Not a problem when a comic get's compared to Watchmen I often think of how clinical Watchmen as a story is, so reading Brat Pack at how lurid it is I realized early on that he was not riffing watchmen with Sidekicks but an EC comics story about sidekicks. Given how Vietch loves old comics it clicked in my head right away. I mean in Maximortal Krytonite is called Craptonite which is the most Mad Magazine joke you could make.

Nah man, Brat Pack is brutal, effective satire. Every page of it is rooted in some sort of corporate issue or storytelling nadir of capeshit. It takes influence from everything from Fredrick Wertham to self censoring writers. The damned book starts with a vote on how the sidekicks should die, every antagonist is loosely based off a writer who was chased out of the industry.

The Boys rounds out to “military good, libertarians bad”

You’re comparing a well-researched takedown to a funny diary entry.

>king of hell erotica

>The Boys rounds out to “military good, libertarians bad”

I think Brat Pack and Maximortal is better than The Boys, but The Boys does more than just "military good, libertarians bad".