>An openly lesbian ex-soldier and the cousin of Bruce Wayne, Kate returns to Gotham City after being discharged from the military for coming out of the closet, and finds a new purpose in defending a city on the edge of chaos following Batman's mysterious disappearance three years prior. Armed with a passion for social justice and flair for speaking her mind, Kate soars onto the streets as Batwoman, but in a city desperate for a savior, she must overcome her own demons before embracing the call to be Gotham's symbol of hope.
>The psychotic leader of the Lewis Carroll–inspired Wonderland Gang. Swinging unpredictably between maniacal and charming, Alice has made it her mission to undermine Gotham’s sense of security, and holds a secret connection to Batwoman's past.
>Kate's closeted former lover and a high-ranking private security agent and one of Gotham’s fiercest protectors. Feisty, charming and with incredible fighting abilities and a softer side beneath her regimented exterior.
Really hope they keep her supernatural elements. This series should be more Constantine then Arrow.
Nicholas Morgan
LUKE FOX (Camrus Johnson)
>The son of Wayne Enterprises' R&D director Lucius Fox, the man who provided Batman with his equipment for years. In the Dark Knight's absence, he is the one keeping the long-abandoned Wayne Tower secure. Brilliant with technology, but lacking in social skills, Luke considers himself the guardian of Batman's legacy and symbol, but soon begins to understand Gotham City’s need for a new hero, and finds one in Kate Kane.
>Kate Kane's excitable, talkative and scrappy stepsister. An influencer-in-the-making, Mary carries a lovely and heavy demeanor, which makes it easy to view her as an airheaded amateur. But what she lacks in a filter she makes up for with her compassion for Gotham’s underserved communities, proving she has more in common with Kate than she thinks. And like her sister, Mary will have a secret life of her own in Gotham City.
I love CWDC's obsession about bringing previous DC alumni back into their shows.
Jaxon Peterson
It’s Cisco all over again. Prepare for a funny character with a passionate heart who’ll be on the sidelines a couple seasons in
Asher Nelson
JACOB KANE (Dougray Scott)
>Kate's extremely tough, political and emotionless father, who is haunted by the death of his wife and one of his daughters years prior. A former military Colonel with a grudge against Batman, Jacob now commands Gotham’s elite private security firm The Crows, and has made it his mission to protect his city better than the Dark Knight ever could. But it’s only a matter of time before his unwavering disdain for vigilantes puts him at odds with Gotham’s new caped crusader, who also happens to be his own daughter.
>Kate's knowledgeable, motivated and ambitious stepmother. Catherine made her fortune as a savvy, bullheaded defense contractor, even supplying weapons for her husband's paramilitary activities. One of Gotham’s most powerful residents, Catherine effortlessly pulls the strings of the elite to advance her frequently less-than-legal enterprises. For her, it’s a matter of the bottom line: Batwoman is bad for business.
I wonder if any of the other former Birds will show up
Gavin White
>discharged from the military for coming out of the closet Wait, is that still a thing? I thought gay people were allowed to serve now, and that it was just trans people that weren't.
Dominic James
Just make a Red Hood show
Logan Scott
all this casting is pretty good looks pretty spot on. I've dropped so much CW but this looks cool. I liked Ruby in the crossover
Left one could play Kate's dead mom in a flashback
Right one can be Selina
Samuel Perez
It's not just CWDC, it's DC in general. Hell, it's WB wide at this point, DC, CW, CBS, all of them.
Owen Bell
I thought Bette was going to be in this?
Aiden Bennett
I assume her role is being covered by Mary Hamilton
Dylan Cooper
Bingo.
Chase Brown
Why not just have Dina Meyer play Oracle again?
Grayson Sanchez
The long hair on the suit looks fuckin dumb. It's also explicitly disadvantageous so there's that too.
Cameron Turner
>Armed with a passion for social justice fuck, sounds worse than new charmed. And Ruby is shitty actress, why did they even cast her?
Daniel Brown
>how to out a casual
Luke Wright
>long lost cousin of batman who was the best soldier the cia ever had >openly lesbian is this Batwoman's actual origin this is fucking cold steele tier
it's a FUCKING WIG that comes away if anyone grips too hard. But do you hate Superman's cape too?
Lucas Lewis
I'm not blind, I see that it's a wig. I didn't know that it comes off if someone pulls it, but it just makes me wonder why have it in the first place. Capes are a tough one because they are impractical but they look cool 9/10 times.
Isaiah Wilson
Call me if we get any lesbian sex scenes. If they happened once every three-four episodes, I'll pick up this show.
Ethan Cruz
she looks like a boy. i hope she gets BLACKED
Zachary Moore
Lost interest once I saw social justice in the description.
Jonathan Diaz
Why can't anyone do one with Cass?
Michael Morris
her costume is the main one I can point to that is both practical and looks cool. Honestly check out Batwoman Elegy it's a really fucking good comic, I would also recommend the rest of JHWIII run on it but I understand if you want to stop there.
>they literally describe her as a social justice warrior Hard pass. I don't care who she wants to bone but don't make that her whole character.
Lincoln Collins
why has no-one posted that shitty car fight yet? you can tell how cheap their budget was cause she just fights two guys in a set decorated like a building entrance, no variety whatsoever.
that actually looks better than anything on Arrow and LoT. Flash had some good looking stuff but that hasn't been seen since season 2
Levi Edwards
Oh cool. She played Dinah in Birds of Prey as well
Kevin Price
ruby rose is so hot. post more sexy pics pls. I wish she'd sit on my face...
Wyatt Hughes
>fights for social justice >by beating up underprivileged and oppressed classes of citizens >all while being white and privileged herself
where is a good kek meme when u need one? I take that back, I cant wait for the rule 34 of her and Harley Quinn
Charles Rivera
hahaha so many triggered incels here, can't wait to see this show
Jack Morales
just watch Orange is the New Black she got kicked out of the military for being a lesbian. At least in this case it makes sense for her to be that character
Lucas Nguyen
user you just can't handle strong independent lesbian woman
Jayden Barnes
Beyond was the peak of aesthetic and function for me.
I respect that opinion, but it is also future time line so things can be crazier than in the normal timeline. Same thing with Ultimate Spidey, the cartoon i mean
Nathaniel Cook
Technically that IS from an episode of Arrow
Angel Price
THROW THIS WHOLE SHOW AWAY.
Robert Campbell
>An openly lesbian
WHO FUCKING CARES? Fucking identity politics. Being a lesbian doesn't make Kate Kane a better or more interesting character.
Alexander Parker
This is shitposting right because no one wants to see untalented female Justin Bieber
Julian Nguyen
No one wants to see a flat assed Carol either but here we are
Jack Fisher
I hate how people could fathom that these skinny fat actresses could possibly pull off the acrobatics, gymnastics and strength needed to be a canonically powerless superhero. It's just retarded.
Landon Jones
It refers to don't ask don't tell, you underaged moron.
Austin Morgan
>Why is this allowed?
Because she's a gender fluid woman and a gay. She's multiple oppressed groups in one package.
Luis James
I forget. Was Alice her identical twin or fraternal twin?
Julian Lewis
Why is CW still making shit when Titans has booted up a new, less awful shared universe?
Tyler Roberts
The world is not a place for such goodness.
Bentley Perry
>titans >less awful don't make me launch. Doom Patrol is great so far but lets not pretend Titans was better than the CW shit
Henry Anderson
Can’t belive Batlesbianjew got her on tv (crappy) show and Cassandra Cain (chubby flip), Huntress, Black Canary have turned supporting cast to a Harley Quinn movie.
Jace Martinez
It's not just CSI or NCIS with superheroes, so yeah, it is. Non animated CW is boring white couple shows, for boring white couples to binge watch while "staying in"
Luis Cruz
Because they're highly successful shows around the world. Why are you such an obtuse retard?
Michael Ross
Because they're bad and the new stuff that isn't CW isn't shitty boring white couple binge TV, like I pointed out before Just because people around the world are stupid normies is no excuse to use the same formula forever.
Joshua Mitchell
Sounds like they're doubling down on everything that made me drop Supergirl. I'd have to be crazy to watch this.
They must really be banking on the Batman brand if they think people are going to put up with this. I doubt it will work, but then again, there are some people who will suffer through anything as long as it involves Batman.
Cooper Sanchez
>and the new stuff that isn't CW isn't shitty boring white couple binge TV
It literally is outside of US (and I think Canada?), where you can only see Titans via Netflix.
Isaac Jackson
Supergirl's pretty good now that they dropped the muh Daxamite/Kryptonian global invasion threat plotline and made it into an allegory for immigration instead.
Well i guess eurotrash and britbong boring white couples have better taste than over here in the tundra and neighboring borgerland
Kevin Campbell
It’s finally happened. They actually made a meme into a tv show.
Luis Brooks
I love her hair style here... man I wish guys who are average to ugly looking can get cool hair styles liek that
Christopher Sullivan
>Armed with a passion for social justice So, wait She's a warrior Armed with social justice I swear there's a name for this
Evan Flores
>Geeky nerd Luke and not Chad Batwing Boo
Gavin King
Arrowverse has a Chad black guy maximum. It's filled by Diggle and Bronze Tiger. Even Alpha Chads like Mr. Terrific have to be downgraded to "gay best friend".
Alexander Ortiz
He can always become Batwing down the line. If he's part of the supporting cast it makes sense to not flood the show with numerous capes from day one. Isn't that one of the core complaints about Arrow and Flash, that it's got too many capes in it?
Joseph Morales
That sucks Jacob and Kate's relationship is one of the best things about Batwoman. Being typical CW angry dad is a step down.
Isaiah Walker
their falling out was pretty interesting too. I hope they start with him supporting her and them move to this version
Jayden Scott
It's going to be the opposite. Like Lance first hating Oliver and then becoming his BFF.
so, what you are saying is, superior in every way. Hell even porn parodies manage to string a better plot than Snyder did. And better costumes
Anthony Moore
You should give it a chance. It's very nuanced and complex issue done well in the show.
Jaxson Cruz
>>An openly lesbian ex-soldier and the cousin of Bruce Wayne, Kate returns to Gotham City after being discharged from the military for coming out of the closet
In that one line I no longer give a shit
Jace Anderson
So you object them doing the character accurately? What a weird thing to complain about.
Daniel Edwards
Yep too much pushing the gay on tv as it is
Jace Stewart
>calls him a moron >complete ignores his valid point
You ever notice that the people most likely to name call perceived stupidity do it in the process of saying stupid things?
Angel Smith
It's not weird for him to do it at all. Batwoman is a crappy early SJW character and not worth adapting. The accuracy of an adaption doesn't give the source merit.
Isaac Jackson
>Batwoman is a crappy early SJW character and not worth adapting.
I'll have to disagree with that. Kate Kane show has promise to it, and crying about her being gay is stupid.
Dominic Edwards
It's not crying about her being gay. It's people being bored to tears with stories that pretend being gay is still note worthy. No one cries about Shoreleave in Venture Bros.
James Johnson
>valid point
It's a retarded point. Kate is openly gay and that's what got her kicked out of the military and sent back to Gotham. All they're doing in the blurb is recapping her goddamn origin story, and it triggers this moron to cry about identity politics simply because it accurately describes Batwoman's background.
Benjamin Green
oh, now you are full SJW crying she isn't gay enough.
Jeremiah Hernandez
Do you have autism? I don't know why you're having trouble grasping this. If someone writes a crap story and a crap character and they make a perfect adaptation and someone says: >this looks like crap They have not said anything wrong.
Chase Jones
I bet you're a comics pro for you to be this obtuse.
Jaxson Cook
The comics were cool, but 90% of the reason why was JHW3 art. Plot was interesting for a bit until there was that whole kerfuffle and DC just fumbled her character and left her for absolute hacks to write. Don‘t really think a low budget TV series could capture any of that.
Easton Barnes
Kind of dated. When is this series supposed to take place? They're gonna give gay people a persecution complex pretending they're still facing prejudice.
Cameron Green
well I certainly am not a casual who is getting angry over her being a lebian or nor lesbian enough.
Lucas Hughes
>Social justice They're pretty much coming right out saying Tumblr is the target audience, nice.
Easton Allen
Elegy might be Rucka's best work ever, that's not saying a ton cause he had a lot of crap but still.
Aiden Wood
It's not about her lever of dykitude it's how dated it is to have stories where someone is gay and it's a big deal. That's like an 80s to mid-90s story and it's tedious today.
Joseph Morris
This show was written 20 years ago and it does gays better.
>It's people being bored to tears with stories that pretend being gay is still note worthy.
It's description of the character in a character blurb, and her being gay is highly related to her backstory. It's not making a bid HEY GUYS SHE'S GAY! deal of it. It's simply stating her character and background. Yet certain people take this to be a massive issue in itself and start crying about SJWs.
Jason Turner
>That's like an 80s to mid-90s story and it's tedious today.
Uh, Don't Ask, Don't Tell only ended in 2011. And if you think gay people are universally accepted and never face adversity due to their sexual orientation you're living in a bubble.
Landon Flores
It's not a biopic, it's a fictional story. It was written exactly for "HEY GUYS" reasons. People receive 10x as much abuse for being ginger as any gay person has in the last 20 years.
Dylan Williams
>Some guy didn't want to bake a gay cake, although the government made him do it anyway, so we're totally oppressed, brah
Julian Price
They literally used the term 'social justice' in the synopsis. That's long been code for far left politics. No one would care if she was just a cool girl who happened to be into chicks.
Joseph Reyes
k, it is clear you are just baiting now
Joseph Cook
i read this and thought it was fake
Thomas Butler
That's still 8 years ago, when is this supposed to take place?
Luis Cox
sometime after Batman leaves Gotham
James Jenkins
It sounded pretty good until the 'armed with a passion for social justice' thing... why would they include that?
Hunter Hall
You're right. Flaming fag drags happen every day, right? I nearly got killed the other day from a gay person crashing into the pavement because I forgot Tuesday was when they chuck them off of the roof of that building.
It's not as if 99% of their problems are self-inflicted and lifestyle related and they all report that homophobia isn't a factor.
Charles Cox
Batman's been missing for three years, so that would leave like five years worth of training time for Kate, but as in the crossover episode she was already operating as Batwoman, it's probably closer to four. Plus you can always fudge details with the book of destiny
Leo Moore
Nuh-huh.
Asher Lewis
Rule of cool > practicality. Most capes wear shit that would get them killed for what they do.
Justin Baker
The worst thing to happen to gays today is they have been so normalized that their progressive stack position got lowered and they get less benefits for being gay. Still, if you're a gay woman in the military now it's a fast lane to promotion and success.
Ethan Carter
sure is casualgate in here
Ryder Rogers
It's a matter of how it's written. Her origin comics handled it pretty well. It was understated and her being discharged was just treated like a shitty thing that happened to her for a shitty reason. Kate didn't immediately go on a rant about evil white men or whatever. It wasn't pushed in your face, it was one of the themes of the character, not her sole defining trait. Hell, I never really saw her as some sort of outspoken social rights activist in her comics. Sure, she's gay, but she was much more interested in literal combat and sometimes partying than marching down the street to fight the power.
Nathaniel Watson
>Projecting this hard over a simple casting blurb
Hudson Anderson
Yeah, it's not like they'd ever completely ruin a caprshit franchise by pushing in social justice lesbian stuff too hard... Oh, wait.
>Hell, I never really saw her as some sort of outspoken social rights activist in her comics
She's going to do the same thing Bruce Wayne did before. Is Batman a bloo bloo bloo SJW character ruined because he cared about social justice and funded programs to fight it, as well as go after crooked cops, etc.?
If you weren't casual you would know the character isn't especially SJW, but they are explicitly painting her that way in the synopsis (social justice).
Aiden Anderson
you don't know anything. she specifically went against Don't Ask Don't Tell policy
Wyatt Roberts
>is gay >loses her military career because they find out she is >is against don't ask don't tell Gee, I wonder fucking why? Why would someone possibly be against a policy that ruined their career? I can't possibly fucking understand it! How in the fuck is it 'SJW' to shit on a policy that fucked you over?
Yeah, because it interfered with her life. She wasn't a social justice activist, as the synopsis says she is now.
Luke Powell
>She's going to do the same thing Bruce Wayne did before. Is Batman a bloo bloo bloo SJW character ruined because he cared about social justice and funded programs to fight it, as well as go after crooked cops, etc.? Yes, he just just beat up thugs (including corrupt cops). I've never heard the term 'social justice' used to refer to Batman. It's a communist-affiliated far left term.
Ryder Hill
>She wasn't a social justice activist
She also wasn't in a situation where Gotham was now in a freefall where only the rich can afford to live securely and there's no Bruce Wayne to help the needy. All she's doing is literally replacing Bruce who is missing by taking on his function as the city's lifeline, both as a vigilante as well as a social programs advocating elite.
Leo Morales
she has been an activist of Gay rights since her origin. And her acting in Gotham is just as SJW as Batman has always been
Chase Robinson
I meant he SHOULD just beat up thugs. I know he funds hug a thug programs, but that's dumb.
Jack Moore
Batman funds social programs, gives prostitutes and people in need jobs via his charities and company, he sends people to Leslie's clinic to get treated and get help, etc. That's literally being a social justice warrior unless you think it just means the narrow internet boogieman definition of the word.
Christian Allen
>is gay >is an activist for gay rights Woah, color me shocked! That totally came out of left field! I didn't see it coming!
Isaac Roberts
Batman is a total anarchist and Yea Forums doesn't care cause it's fucking Batman.
Robert Ortiz
I'm tentatively interested. DC's been fumbling with her character since J.H. Williams quit and I've always wanted a satisfactory conclusion to the Alice storyline.
Justin Cook
fumbling is an understatement. Having her repeatedly raped is more like it
Ryder Allen
>discharged from the military for coming out of the close >Armed with a passion for social justice >she must overcome her own demons
Didn't she almost literally get raped by that vampire bitch who mind controlled her? What the fuck was that shit?
Brody Mitchell
I really hope they keep the supernatural stuff.
Dylan Evans
SO DIVERSE
Christopher Gray
The new Tynion series doesn't look like complete garbage but I haven't mustered up the interest yet to see for myself. Any thoughts on it?
Liam Clark
Figures. Women can't be expected to make their own shit.
Nicholas Allen
One man grabs that fucking loose hair and it’s rape city. Stupid whore.
Grayson Brown
They did a storyline which was basically what Dini and Timm were going to do on BTAS.
Benjamin Hughes
It's a wig, and one that comes off really easily. It's a distraction for whoever thinks they can get an advantage by grabbing it. Why don't you try and learn about a character before insulting them, so it at least makes sense?
Asher Davis
Sounds like stupid Mary Sue SJWshit for soicüx like you and faggot OP.
Zachary Barnes
Sure he does but he should just beat them up instead.
Grayson Hall
>whole argument is buzzwords and using different letters to avoid the filters Kek.
Charles Wood
>Supergirl's pretty good Fuck off.
Alexander Johnson
Or as we humans call it, truth.
Lucas Stewart
No, it's not truth. You're fucking retarded if you think Kate Kane is a mary sue. She's a party addicted fuck up.
Connor Brown
Does Ruby Rose not take a role unless the character is a lesbo or trans? God, she's the worst. How she manages to be such a shit actor and be so uppity boggles the mind.
Don't Ask Don't Tell was legit part of her origin, which will become trickier and trickier the longer ago it was abolished.
Lucas Baker
In the Midwest, that's just being a good Christian. An SJW is just some twat who is angry about everything and does nothing to fix the problem but virtue tweet and protest. Technically that's exactly what happens in leftist regions too, except fewer people who actually help and more SJWs being twats and doing nothing. It's called being progressive.
Mason White
>read the descriptions >wonder where the white male is >he is the abusive father
Lincoln Lee
Remember when Liberals said Ruby Rose wasn't gay enough to play Batgirl and tried to shame her out of the role. I remember.
David Turner
Congratulations, user with no long term memory loss. Clearly you haven't drank away too many brain cells yet.
Angel Brooks
She meets all the requirements you fucking moron.
Alexander Wood
I'm wary of the show because MUH SJW, the boogieman already took Supergirl from having potential to utter dog shit, but I hope against all hopes they can do shit with the ancapistan/pmc run dystopia setting they're attempting to build.
Jordan Reyes
>openly lesbian ex-soldier >Armed with a passion for social justice and flair for speaking her mind BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
man, look at that cape, holy fuck. I wasn't reading it when it came out, was this book constantly delayed or did JHWIII managed to deliver shit like that constantly within 30 days? Yeah but "crazy do literally anything tech" has no functionality whatsoever, it's a way to focus on a good design and handwave it's practicality. Nothing wrong with that, I love that costume, but it's not "funcional" if it's virtually a deus ex machina.
