How do you feel about anime references?

Weebs make them. France isn't the only country with an obsession with Japan.

I think anime references are poor taste and inappropriate.

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This.
The only two jokes in We Bare Bears seem to be "haha, the internet amiright?" and "lol it's that anime you like".

Today's episode had physical humor.

Here's the litmus test for whether or not an anime reference, or any kind of reference, in your show is good:

Is the reference funny as a gag even if people don't know what it's referencing? If it is, then it's good. If it isn't, then it isn't. Simple.

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Good:
Referencing an anime.
Parodying specific anime or characters.

Bad:
Copying the layout or animation sequence from an anime, with exceptions (i.e. when the reference is the sequence, such as the Akira bike slide.)
Centering the entire appeal of the show around references to anime/video games/cartoons.

Expressing love is okay. Copying someone else's work to make things easier on yourself is cheap and low-effort.

Nothing wrong about it just wish they didn’t referenced always the same shit
Makes the writers look like out of touch old men

the anime reference i hate the most is sailor moon especially with all the transformation sequences

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A good reference can be funny on it's own without knowing the source.

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Loved that whole episode.

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i know that reference...

Who else referenced Kiki's Delivery Service?

fpbp

I like it almost always. It's fitting for most shows and are ways to not just get a cheap laugh but to pay tribute to what inspires a lot of these shows.

yes but they look like shit and seem to me more like an insult to actual Anime.

Like with all references, they’re fine if they serve a purpose other than LOL WE MADE A REFERENCE1!!11!

I like it more when an artist is able to channel anime/manga influence but combine it with other influences and produce something still fits in their culture.
Like, Megas XLR has tons of references but also feels really American.
Also stop the Sailor Moon references. Its bad and you should feel bad.

References are nice, but many anime references form US shows seem to be more for reference sake than to actually have a point within the episode they're in.

One of the few reasons I have any respect left for AT is that it felt like they rarely referenced anime compared to practically any other popular modern cartoon.

I agree with Sailor Moon references. The transformation and poses are so time consuming and you know where they're going so it just drags.

fine when done good or subtly

cringe when forced and obvious

I really can't think of any AT anime references. Wow, I respect them even more now.

Does it really fucking matter

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Do cartoons fucking matter? We're still talking about them, aren't we?

I take anime reference over forced dykes anytime

Do these kids even know what sailor moon is?

What's the NEWEST anime reference you've seen in a cartoon?
Eva references bring us up to the mid 90s; anyone know of anything newer than that getting referenced, or is that the hard limit?

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I'd say WBB name dropping Polar Bear Cafe. That anime ran 2012-13.

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do they know every fucking ghibli movie?

That's anime's length is impressive for a modern josei manga adaptation

So you prey to the land of the rising sun 3 times a day and snort pockey dust. Got it

This will be the next /lgbt/GayGen/ edition.

You mom is a firced dyke

To be fair, most 2000s cartoons liked to reference speed racer and astro boy, neither of which any kids had any awareness of.

References to things from the past aren't for the kids, they're eastereggs for the adults

cringe

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It really is. Sad to see it end, but out my god 50 episodes? I'm glad it lasted for as long as it did.

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Speed Racer was an honorary Cartoon Cartoon.
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This. The show was picked up and ran along side normie cartoons.

I loved this bit but in retrospect it's odd seeing how this, South Park, and another show I forgot took a jab at the Pokemon anime for being a marketing tool. I wonder if there's real resentment built up by cartoon people who all wanted to make the next TMNT and create a toy empire.

The next what now?

A lot of the times the references aren't gags though.

Do they reference Polar Bear Cafe?

You bet your ass they do.

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Gee, you fucking tell me

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They were almost always shit but nowadays it's gotten worse since EVERYONE in the western animation industry loves anime and loves to insert "references" only it's usually blatant ripoffs of famous scenes, just a famous character from a normalfag show or Studio Ghibli movie inserted into a scene, or a callback to a normalfag entry level anime. It's better when anime references cartoons

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If they're done for comedy or as a background easter egg, it's fine.

If you're ripping off anime scenes for emotional/serious/action-scene moments in your show, like Steven Universe, then that's shit and just feels like the writers lack creativity.

Gay and AIDSpilled.

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>Tepig vs Piplup

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There's literally an entire episode where Ice Bear runs a cafe.

>What if we call it Polar Bear Cafe?
>I think that's taken.

>sailor moon is a feminist icon I loved that show as a girl
>rumiko Takahashi is one of my biggest inspirations
>no pantyshot, no fan service
>men can't be stronger than women and rescue the girl

I hate that white-gray faggot, so goddamn much.

personally I hate all reference humor, especially the kind where they actually say what they are referencing.
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I love Panda

I dislike the base level references. Anime is more than Sailor Moon, Dragonball Z, tentacle hentai, ninjas, Speed Racer and 'monster catching'

Aside from them imitating the sailor moon transformation sequence life four fucking times

Like it or not, this is casting a wider net for the overall jokes. It's why famous sports stars or musicians will be used instead of semi-famous ones. More people are going to get a joke about Kanye West than a joke about Lupe Fiasco.

>comics / cartoons constantly references anime / manga
>Anime / manga rarely do the same

Sure is inferior in here

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>tfw no nohomo bff to ride bikes in the afternoon after a session of lifting

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Sailor Moon is the lowest possible tier of anime references.
Yes, below DBZ

There was a few times, like said (though I'm pretty sure it was only like twice) and that episode where LSP had anime facial expressions the whole time.
Fionna also wore Sailor Moon's dress in the first genderbend episode but that was very subtle.

The occasional references showed up but that's like 5 or so across 280 episodes, nowhere near as frequent as other shows I feel.

Personally I think Trey Parker is best at them. Maybe it's because he can actually speak Japanese and he seems to have some other knowledge of it than just Dragonball and Sailor Moon.

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the ref should not be ha ha Kanye West, it should be a joke that makes you go "hu thats just like Kanye West" instead of spelling it out for you and then sucking its own cock about how "smart" it is

And yet he made a Pokemon episode that aged like milk and a DBZ reference at the of his South Park movie.

Yes but those were back when they hadn't been done million times yet
Care to explain why you think Chinpokomon "aged like milk"?

I wish they used more semi-famous celebrities. I love it when characters act like a literally who is a big deal, act like everyone knows who someone obscure is, or even the self deprecating cameos where they're treated like trash despite being accomplished.

Still odd when they go for celebs who aren't relevant to kids.

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The fad upgrading consumers as if the video game became irrelevant after the card game came out and they joke about bad dubs as if everything is still Speed Racer quality. Then it all being a plot to make kids bomb Pearl Harbor just wasn't timely then and is especially out of touch now.

The massive Pokemania did die after gen 1 though, and didn't come back until Pokemon Go. I was one of the kids who were hypnotized by Pokemania and majority of kids my age moved on to next fads after a while (after this you were seen as childish if you were still into it). Most of the people that grew up that time didn't even know any of the gen 2 Pokemons when they started appearing in Go.

>hey check it out bro, this VR experience brings your fantasies to reality
>but nothing changed, bro
>that's because you are my fantasy, bro
>bro...

Yeah they got that one thing right.

I didn't see that as a reference. Exchanging a flurry of blows has become as standard as super fast swordplay.

Wasn't there a Kill La Kill reference in a ATHF episode?

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Why do they love that song?

I will always love Totoro references

I only watched a couple episodes of Steven Universe, so when I saw this bit on another website, I was surprised.

I knew Rebecca Sugar was a weeb, but it's not a reference I was expecting to see.

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Sometimes I wish I could stop anime from going mainstream in a certain country

Even on Yea Forums you are seeing the "Anime should start pandering to the west" mentality creeping in

>Introducing your friend to your mom.jpg

She probably knew it from Yea Forums. She actually uses Yea Forums and Yea Forums

Lets be honest, cartoons need anime because the only time animation looks good is when it’s anime. The bears look like shit compared to the anime characters on the left.

I hate that shit. If you want shows to pander to you support your own domestic industry. Japan has no interest in pandering to other countries save for America, and even then that's under very specific circumstances

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Is that a Junji Ito reference? I never made the connection

Anime looks better than modern American animation, but if you think it's the peak of animation you're a fucking moron. There's only two active anime studios I can think of right now that can even approach pre-war american or soviet russian animation, and even then they still don't quite hit the mark

Almost definitely.

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That middle eastern cartoon with the superhero that everyone keeps defending because "muh art"

They fucked up a possible Jojo reference in this episode; Ice Bear says he needs to use his ultimate move in a fight, but then runs when he is charged by his opponents rather than running preemptively.

Movie references are fun too and it works out pretty well. It's amusing even if you don't get it.

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This one caught me offguard.

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>Ghibli
>Sailor Moon
>Akira
>EVA
>DBZ
Am I the only one who's tired of seeing these references over and over?

Fuck anime references, I want cartoons to do more Tokusatsu references. I know Powerpuff Girls and Billy and Mandy did a few, but I can't think of any cartoons that have done some recently. Like I know Godzilla, Gamera, and Super Sentai/Power Rangers still are referenced, but are there any recent cartoons that reference something like Ultraman or Johnny Sokko and his Flying Robot?

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The judge from Nothing but Trouble?

There have been a couple Pink Floyd references in Gumball

This judge, from The Wall. Gumball likes their Pink Floyd.

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I just want a Western show to reference SamFlam.

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that I could be watching something better

I'm so tired of seeing the same few Toonami, Ghibli and just well known stuff referenced. But at the same time I'd rather they reference something they know and like. When someone references a show they clearly know nothing about it is always painful to sit through. Some people's interests end at the popular stuff, but if you care enough to reference shouldn't you also care enough to dive deeper and really understand what you are referencing?

I just can't help but feel it is lazy to throw a character in a Spike Spiegel costume, like if you really love that show enough to reference why do something so surface level? References a specific thing that actually sticks out to you personally, rather than just hey look this character is transforming like sailor moon. Anime in itself is very referential, especially stuff like mecha where if you want to parody it well you have to trace shit back. If you just want to throw in some random junk you thought looked cool when you were a kid I can't hate that, but you just can't help but feel like they are fishing for cred a lot of the time despite doing nothing special.

Guillotine Gorilla was that moment when some boring anime about a toku-autist doing vigilantism turns into one of the best rides of my life.

SIT DOWN! SIT. DOWN.

This one is especially daring.

lazy

having too many references is just an excuse for the creators to be unimaginative

also fuck weebs

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I prefer Westaboo references made by anime. although, we probably don't deserve the positive attention.

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There's something very endearing about it.

>Hayao Miyazaki films
>Sailor Moon
>Eva
>Utena
>shonenshit
>fad anime
I'm not impressed unless they make the effort to reference something different. Too overdone. Instant A+ if it's a Leiji Matsumoto reference.

Mighty Magiswords referenced Kamen Rider. The creator has a boner for Fourze

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sensible chuckle

Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated had that episode that was based on War of the Gargantuas. There was also a nu-Fairly Odd Parents episode where Poof became Ghidorah for whatever reason(something related to fairy babies or something) and Timmy and his fairies stopped him while wearing Science Patrol uniforms from the OG Ultraman using a baby bottle as a maser cannon.
Really surprised shows like Steven Universe don’t throw in any references to stuff like that

I hate it when they are superficial, but I like them when they are more in-depth or subtle. Kind of like memes.
for example, I fucking hate the JOJO POSE and OH! MY! GOD! meme shit from JJBA, but I love stuff like duwang and other jokes were cursory knowledge of the franchise isn't enough.

Anime is trash

>Really surprised shows like Steven Universe don’t throw in any references to stuff like that
Different age ranges. Rebecca Sugar is in the age range where she would've seen something like Sailor Moon on TV as a kid where Butch Hartman is in the age range where he would've seen Ultraman or Godzilla on TV as a kid

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Cringe.

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whoa pedo bear

>wetbacks
>cringing at anything
Now that's a good one.

I thought it was sitting cool that South Park got heavily referenced in FLCL. It remains my favorite reference/visual gag.

How do I delete anime from existence?

Delete system 32.

Donny Osmond on Johnny Bravo is definitely my favorite example of this.

Who the fuck was Mad TV even for? As an adult I didn't get half the celebrity references so I'm sure as a cartoon watching kids I'd get even less. Grey's Anatomy? 91210? What portion of the CN audience has any interest or point if reference for these things?

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goofy shit for kids
references for mom and dad

like animaniacs

The references aren't even clever, they're just extended mash up word puns.

Samflam has absolutely everything and its gay to boot.
A true masterpiece

>chinpokomon episode
>aged like milk
It captured perfectly the overblown pokemon, and other japenese fads of the late 1990s. Just because it's no longer relevant doesn't mean it aged badly, you dumbass

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That was 100% a mere coincidence. The joke is way too ambiguous, and Ito is so far away from the kind of anime Sugar, or pretty much anyone else in the show watches for it to be on purpose

Also, this one

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Anime is forbidden! Anime has always been forbidden!

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Dipper is obvious, but
>mabel
>connie
Tf?

The TNG production crew were uberweebs and couldn't go five minutes without sneaking in Dirty Pair references. They made an entire episode about Nanmo

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Only acceptable when they aren't drawn like shit.

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lots of anime fights are frame-for-frame copies of kung-fu movie choreography. boondocks isn't necessarily copying naruto, it's copying whatever kung-fu movie that fight is based on.

Mabel and Connie are just as obvious

Based and barapilled

what really when?

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Googled it. Couldn't find anything but this.

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Source?