Wholesome comics

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those fuckheads stuffing their faces as usual

OK, I know everyone on this board wants to feed Dobson legs-first into a meat grinder, and so do I, but there's nothing inherently bad about this cartoon.

I want to agree with this but
>Dobson

I DON'T LIKE EM PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE SOUP THAT TURN THE FREAKIN' FROGS GAY

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A broken clock is right twice a day

He's misconstruing the issue and presenting it under a false pretense. Social justice SHOULD be about helping everyone out, but instead it's become an oppression olympics between landwhale tumblerinas and landwhale nazi larpers. The notion of everyone being able to enjoy something involves there being agreement between multiple parties, which isn't happening anytime soon.

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Sorta

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Makes me feel bad because I was the type to shoo them out of my room. I regret it.

I'll just think its not hinting at what I think its hinting at.

Except that's not how it works. The pie is as big as it gets - the amount of resources is finite - so we will have to consume at the expense of others. Redistributing this is unfair to those who already have a lot.

>You will never, ever, get this Sinfest again.

Thanos, get the fuck outta here

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No it's not, Dobson.

who is this guy and why do we hate him

someone post the screenshot about why every board hates Dobson

The Yea Forums equivalent of Arin Hanson: a run of the mill slightly dim douchbag who just so happens to have an inexplicably large internet presence. Nobody would give a shit if it weren't for his weird psudo-fame

>Screenshot
you can just post some of his comics
it's really not hard to find a reason to dislike dobson
but if you're reaching, try the calm thine tits post

t-thanks in advance

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Man, where did Pepe's life go so wrong?

But that's exactly the opposite of how social justice works.

At his core, he's a spineless attentionwhore who refuses to listen to anyone who isn't sucking his dick.

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not a comic but still

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He's a gigantic SJW, but is such a douchebag that even SJWs hate him.

Well, resources aren't acquired in a vacuum. Surely there must be SOME kind of loyalty or gratitude that ought to be expressed toward the society and the consumers without which those resources could not have been acquired in the first place.

You're going to have to walk us through your retard logic here.

>He's a gigantic SJW
No he's really not. He just pretends to be one for goodie points. Most of the time virtue signalling is a buzzword, but it 100% fits with pretty much every instance where Dobson has tried to look like a nice person.

At least for me, its similar to why I hate chris chan. He thinks WAY to highly of himself, and he refuses to take any criticism. As a result, the "quality" of his work stagnates while he continues to inflate his ego.

>He just pretends to be one for goodie points.
Yes, virtue signaling is in fact a staple of being an SJW.

On my first pass I didn't see the hand-off and I thought the punk guy was pissed because he had less happy pink balloons than the guy passing him. I kind of like that message better.

>he still thinks SJWs don't genuinely believe in anything they say
Stop projecting, son.

Stop making awful posts.
He's certainly not "pretending" to be an SJW for the sake of irony, so there's no functional difference between him being an SJW and you believing he's only pretending to be an SJW. He would be equally obnoxious either way.

>the crocodile has onions
CROCODILE TEARS

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>tfw wholesome content fills you with overwhelming sadness

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The difference is that he's again and again shown himself to be an awful person at odds with the image he tries to show everyone. He tries to project the image where he's looking out for everyone and is super-nice, but whenever ANYONE interacts with him he quickly reveals he's simply an asshole who doesn't really care about anything but himself. All the way down to bitching about his girlfriend's family having him over for Chanukka and then not understanding why his girlfriend might have a problem with him spewing that out online instead of talking to her about it.

That type of person is way more obnoxious than someone who genuinely wants to change the world. The same way your typical "DID I MENTION I HATE NIGGERS" virtue-signaller on here is way more obnoxious than the regular racists you meet every day who just go about their day without having to point it out for you.

Same.

1. Yes, that sounds like an SJW. Apparently you haven't noticed how they'll turn on each other for any reason whatsoever.
2. That imaginary example doesn't follow at all.
The difference between a silent racist and a vocal racist is that you don't hear the silent racist.
The difference between a Dobson merely pretending to be an SJW and a Dobson actually being a SJW is exactly identical, you utter retard.

lulz

...yeah

Tell that to Asian people and SAT scores.

the better way to phrase it is that the big pie has the exact same amount of filling (resources), but the baker has created a larger pie shell and only filled the absolute middle with filling, so most people only get crust while a select number of people get slices with filling, which used to be considered a normal piece of pie until everybody forced the baker to bake bigger pies without giving him any ingredients to work with
and then there are the assholes with their own damn incredibly delicious personal pies all for themselves, telling everyone that they should just get their own pie if they are unhappy with their current pie situation, not realizing most people can't afford their own pie, and you can't go to the bank asking for a loan for a pie, they'd lock you up
I think I lost my point

That's somebody's fucking fence.
As a person paying to have a fence installed, I am mad.

They eat, Jon. That's what they do.

Why u putting up a fence instead of building a bridge? U a racist or something?

I bet user wants to be naked and not be seen.
It's 'cause we're broken.

I need to raise the value of my property
so I can sell my house and move somewhere white

I mean I like the bands too but CC and MA are entry level as fuck

>tfw we'll never get a proper final Sinfest strip where Slick and Monique reconcile their feelings for one another and smooch each other on the lips, finding some measure of peace in each other's company

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Speaking of wholesome.

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Its not privilege if other people can do it too, as the pie grows bigger the piece you have becomes less valuable.

Except that privilege is not only a matter of resources but also of social treatment and opportunity.

Fuck off, that's my pie you retarded commie.

communist

>try for 8 minutes to find the actually-intended darkness of this strip, as PfSC almost always revolve around pessimism, cynicism, or outright depression
>find nothing
>oh wait there it is
>it was in me all along
goddamn it

Not pictured is the chef getting tired of gathering the materials and making the pie while everyone else mooches off his hard work and doesnt contribute anything back.

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They gotta have a good meal.

A wholesome Henk!

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more wholesome home invader

Seeing the peak before the fall always hurts...

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Mods are here, everyone abort

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Who fucking cares if its entry level.

Fetishistic rather than wholesome.

Cute
That arc where Crim fucking digs down to hell with a shovel to get Fusch was pretty wholesome

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Geez, what happened?

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>Tats finally ruined the final thing that made Sinfest worth reading through with this.
Is he seriously trying to say the only way for a man to be good is to lose the fact he’s a man and drop his gender? Fuck this timeline and fuck it for thoughly ruining one of the best webcomics ever in its prime.

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>Is he seriously trying to say the only way for a man to be good is to lose the fact he’s a man and drop his gender?
Yes.
Where have you been for like, the last 4 years?

I know that, but they were left unscathed mostly.
At least I can finally drop this shit.

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>Wholesome comics.
Wholesome comic you say?

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...That's hot.

>Who fucking cares if its entry level
Evidently the person who was calling out fucking plebs for not having MA represented

no

oh

my god

What's wrong with having a brap fetish

He propagates his mediocre self-insert fantasy art where he kicks all the bad guy's butts, but never improves his art and never makes good arguments. To give you an example of the sort of man he is, he told Robin William's daughter over twitter to "Calm thine tits" the day after her father died.

Thats probably treated wood
those animals are gonna get poisoned

I actually did it and it has over 100 posts now.
No one from this thread post anything until maybe 200-300 posts in.

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Looks like they already fixed it, and are mostly laughing at leftycuck comics like "Assigned Male".

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>see woman acting upset
>I know what I'll do, I'll tell her to calm her tits!
Even without her dad dying it shows just how socially inept the retard is. He comes off as an edgy Yea Forumstard even when he's not trying.

/pol/ doesn't deserve Benny J Montero

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Why is burning treated wood bad?

It's toxic. Obviously.

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You just made me remember when I was a kid and did a sleep-over thing at the hospital to check some blood work continually during the night, and I met this other kid who was there more permanently because of cancer. I haven't thought about that kid in over a decade and now it's brought back by a wholesome thread? Fucking bullshit.

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Reminds me of that tv show episode where a kid finds a storage container his dead mom rented, completely filled with presents. One for every one of his birthdays that she was going to miss.

Anyone know where it's from? Because I haven't been able to find it no matter what I google.

If I saw that, it would end me. Like that damn Animal Crossing mom story.

This guy has the uncanny ability to make people feel warm and fuzzy and emotionally destroyed at the same time.

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this is a cult

because its treated with chemicals that you don't want to make airborne and inhale

These give me an uneasy feeling. Like something incredibly dark is happening just behind the scenes.

the darkness is not everyone in the world gets to feel those good feelings
more often than not, people don't get to feel those feelings

and right now
you're only feeling those feelings vicariously

So were they gay lovers or what?

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A lot of the comics deal with stuff like depression, illness, death, addiction, etc.

Good job.

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It might be one of theirs and they just decided to put it down because they didn't need it

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I feel you, man. The stilted quality of the wholesomeness makes it feel somehow false.

Like these comics aren't communist, but I can kind of see why some people would think that. The forced cheeriness of it all makes it feel like some kind of propaganda

>Like these comics aren't communist, but I can kind of see why some people would think that. The forced cheeriness of it all makes it feel like some kind of propaganda

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How depressing.

It's wholesome and good but has that feeling of something horrible just beneath the surface, like real life

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wait, this is what the comic was like before the fabled "fall"?
Wow, no wonder you guys feel such a loss

Wasn't that an episode of Bones? Well, Episodes, she first finds and identifies said mystery parents and later helps her partner find said storage shed filled with letters and gifts to him.
If it's the Bones one it's pretty brutal

>frogs are useless freeloaders

It feels exactly like PBF without the punchlines.

What? I didn't say they were communist! They aren't!
I just said they read sorta like the vapid banalities typically found in communist propaganda.
Is that so paranoid?

>...That's hot.
> #
What’s the appeal? Girl farts smell worse

was it a lawyer show or a doctor show? I might know what you are talking about.

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Yes.

Why did Spiderman leave Him on the cross

>That frog nigger took other people's food again
>From a sick man no less

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what if the guy died?

Both of them realized that the sacrifice had to be made to redeem mankind, but Jesus could at least chill with a neat hat while he was dying in the most agonizing way.

If Jesus didn't die on the cross, we'd all still be judged for our sins. As long as you believe Jesus is your Lord and savior, paradise awaits.

The thing is, you expect something other than wholesomeness from any comic you see here. You are waiting for the other shoe to drop. It's conditioned cynicism.

But that implies that if I don't believe in Jesus as my saviour it's my fault and I can't honestly hold that belief

>you have two legs!
Fucking french and their weird food.

What is up with the frogs always eating food that doesn't belong to them?

>"I won't touch anything"
>Is clearly touching a record sleeve.
What a brat.

Fuck you.

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You're suspicious that nobody can be THAT happy and positive. These characters are just smiling all the time. It's probably the same reason that coulrophobia exists.

That frog contributed nothing, and therefore deserves nothing. Your masked communist propaganda isn't getting to THIS patriot.
FUCK Barney Sandlers

OH COME ON!

>me in the top left

take me back plz

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>DON’T DO DRUGS!
Fuck you, Spider-Man. There’s like hundreds of gay men that dress like you to get themselves off.

That frog contributed more than you ever will.

Sincerely,
Your Mom

Thats like two g:s

My big brother did this with me all the time. Hell, he was the one that introduced me to Linkin Park and 311.
Oh, and also Bloodhound Gang. Hooray for Boobies is still an album he and I will belt out quotes from.

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>sjws have someone that makes them look worse than they already are
>"hes just pretending"
Amazing.

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If the whole group rejects him and his message even if normally they can't agree on anything then clearly he can't be called one of them. If you claim to be the king of England that doesn't make you one, you would need at least some support to have anyone consider that claim. He's such an asshole even sjws who normally have no standards refuse to be associated with him.

I love this comic

There's a really similar premise in an episode of Violet Evergarden.

I don't actually know what type of show it was, because I only caught that episode. I'm pretty sure it took place in california or australia though, because of the beach vibes. And it seemed to be a typical 20-something relationship etc show, but then that might just have been because the focus of that episode was on a 20-something. It definitely wasn't Bones.

Is this a light jabe at the cake of Trump's inauguration ?

If you assume they're both male, sure.

peter parker is jew

>how gun grabbers think gun control works

How ironic.

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hee

Fuck

Wasn't it a movie?

kek

....
....
CARLOS!!!

ew who the fuck just leaves their bong out on the table?

I don't get it

It's pretty amazing how long Kamagurka has managed to keep his absurd humour going. Unlike that hack Jeroom who now basically gets paid to make low effort jokes with stolen art.

Christ was on the cross willingly, if he wanted he could have flexed, shattering the wood and shooting splinters directly into the skulls of the Romans.
Probably what would have happened if they crucified that mad cunt Mohammed.

I have it in my mind, but I can’t find it.

Does anyone have an image of that one comic where the devil says he’s going to burn someone the other person cares about and then the devil ends up setting himself on fire?

loss.jpg

Does anyone have a link to that story where he talked about having the worst Christmas ever, and then we hear the truth from his girlfriend and it turns out he was being a manchild over literally nothing at all?

It’s a bad pun.

Then why did he cry and beg the Father to let him go while on the cross.
Why didn't he flex and break it then

>Then why did he cry and beg the Father to let him go while on the cross.

When Christ said 'Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani' He was not begging to be released from the cross

He was quoting Psalm 22, one of the most famous hymns amongst the Jews, the first line evoking every other that follows

if you go off and look at it you'll see how it begins with the sufferer feeling despondent, then remembering his relationship with God, and being vindicated even when everyone around him is berating him

you might also note that this Psalm was written around 700 years before Christ was born, yet it details so many aspect of the crucifixion... and even points to the means of death the Messiah would suffer, around 400 years before crucifixion was invented

Don't bring that ching chong talk to my house

Kek

The sad part is they probably already had plans irl and just complained he had them go all the way to his house before frowning and leaving him. :(

To me, this is ending. It's August before his turn, and it's got a nice wide view of most of his characters doing what they do around town.
There are some good strips after this, but none with any sense of finality like this.

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Meant to reply

What is happening here?

>around 700 years before Christ was born

It's one of the post-exilic Psalms, most likely written during the 400s when Judaism was coalescing as a religion. It's probably one of the more recent of those, at that. God's relationship was with the Jewish people in general, originally, as with any other tribal god. But by the time 22 was written, the focus is more on the community than the nation, and there's a sense of the individual having a personal relationship with God. This one, for example, is about private acts of piety that will reconcile a sinner with his community. That puts it at the more recent end of the timeline.

That's a quibble, though. The Gospel writers did certainly track the language of this Psalm when telling of the crucifixion. "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"—"All who see me mock me"—"Let the Lord rescue him"—"I am poured out like water"—"My mouth is dry"—"They pierce my hands and my feet"—"They divide my clothes among them, and cast lots for my garment." The Psalm is about reconciliation, what better language to use to show that Jesus was taking one for the team? It's a literary reference that the original audience would have gotten loud and clear.

incels took his image and corrupted it, using it for their dumbass martyrdom

the only way for pepe to be restored is to be kind.

No, you oaf, this was done years before that. Don't drag Nedroid like that.

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic - good ending

my sides

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I've been thinking about going and downloading all the strips before his breakdown, but it's so much...
But yeah that looks like a nice stopping point.

you fucker

>you will never be in a hospital bed watching season 1 of the simpsons while your friends stand nearby enjoying their time with you, as the sun sets on a beautiful city skyline and the sky fills with stars

im going to save this and think about it occasionally so when i croak i can have this kind of feel

>incels corrupted it
you mean CNN?

>CNN
I don't think they ever used pepe. Unless you're joking in that case fuck me.

((((())))))))

>I won't touch anything
>immediately touches something

So, Spidey just wanted to be absolved of the burden of causing Uncle Ben's murder. What a selfish prick.

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>how about some eggs and bacon
>bacon
>to jesus
spidda what is you doing

I regret not being more like that with my little sister

WARNING! Carry on reading! Or you will die, even if you only looked at the word warning! Once there was a little girl called Clarissa, she was ten-years-old and she lived in a mental hospital, because she killed her mom and her dad. She got so bad she went to kill all the staff in the hospital so the More-government decided that best idea was to get rid of her so they set up a special room to kill her, as humane as possible but it went wrong the machine they were using went wrong. And she sat there in agony for hours until she died. Now every week on the day of her death she returns to the person that reads this letter, on a monday night at 12:00a.m. She creeps into your room and kills you slowly, by cutting you and watching you bleed to death. Now send this to ten other pictures on this one site, and she will haunt someone else who doesn't. This isn't fake. apparently, if u copy and paste this to ten comments in the next ten minutes u will have the best day of ur life tomorrow. u will either get kissed or asked out, if u break this chain u will see a little dead girl in your room tonight. in 53 mins someone will say i love you or im sorry.

>MIGRANTS WELCOME

>women
>ever apologizing

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Who hurt you? Not even memeing, I'm asking for real.

It turned into an "Assigned Male" circlejerk out of nowhere.

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Man. With all the Sinfest in this thread I'm going back and reading the old stuff and its just making the entire situation even worse.

Reminds me of that song Death is Real

>Wholesome comics
>no Nerd and Jock

nerdandjock-comic.tumblr.com

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after a news article described pepe as being an alt right white supremacist icon, /pol/ started actually using him as such to be ironic and trigger the dumb libs.

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The only way to articulate how far off Sinfest is now compared to its golden years. Is to picture Trump embracing every far left policy and enacting it with glee.

Only then might you get a glimence of what sinfest used to be.

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This seems appropriate

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He's doing his best to keep himself in high spirits while he's fighting a serious illness.

Well I hate Trump so that would be a dream come true for me
But I can kind of see what you mean

Maybe it's because I'm a cynical asshole, but to me, it would work a lot better if the bully is giving some tough love to the nerd.

Although that would just be Nelson and Martin scenario now that I think about it.

>ironic
/pol/ hasn't been ironic since gamergate

I'm having a shitty day, Yea Forums, so thanks for this thread.

> Psalm 22
>It's one of the post-exilic Psalms

it's a 'Psalm of David'

y'know, THE King David?

pretty confident he never saw the exile, seeing as he was the 2nd King of Israel circa 1000BC

something something Raimi

Obviously a woman, idiot.

Have a better, simpler analogy: Just imagine if a loved one of yours one day joined some cult that promises him salvation under the condition that he put all his efforts towards furthering the goals of the cult. So that's what your friend does: Preach for the cult all day long. All he ever wants to talk about anymore is the cult and how you should join it too. When you suggest that maybe the cult isn't doing him any good, he gets angry and decides to cut all ties with you. Your friend used to be great guy, he was fun, you loved to hang out with him. You would love to do it again. But that guy is gone.

In fact, many people suspect that Sinfest's creator DID pretty much "join a cult" by becoming the feminist equivalent of a born again christian.

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...
You know that feeling when you can immediately tell that an artist draws gay porn?

its more the fact that some ignorant person is going to see this comic, and think individual acts of charity somehow serve as carte blanche for a bloated federal government to be the first and last word on just who gets to have that soup

>I have salt and pepper
what a piece of shit, at least the other guy owned up to having nothing

You've got the order backwards. First /pol/ snatched up Pepe from /r9k/ who was actively trying to kill the meme by making it disgusting and creepy (don't ask.) then they started using it in public because they never go the memo about not talking about Yea Forums. Then News Networks including CNN started talking about it, because that's why they do, and then /pol/ started spewing a fake ass narrative about them retaliating against the MSM.

Why have a fence when you can have a comfy campfire?

>That fantastic feeling when my older bro was like this with me.
this strip brings all the happiness back anons.

Fuck you, maybe salt and pepper aren't readily avaible

Because you don't like random ass woodland creatures having campfires on your lawn, however adorable and earnest they might be.

To trigger the Romans with an accused who actually rose from the dead.

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There should be a term for this.

1st fucking post in COME ON.

One does not get the cold because he didn't take his cold medicine. Jesus is the "cure" from sin, not the cause of it.

I didn't know this. Thanks for the info.

>Hooray for Boobies is still an album he and I will belt out quotes from.
Hell yeah, me and my lil brother do the same.
YOU'VE HAD A LOTTA DIIIICK
(HAD A LOTTA DIIICK)

Can't even get people to denounce post-birth abortion as at least sounding bad.

The gene pools long over due for a good cleaning.

>run of the mill
>inexplicably large internet presence
I know Ego has changed dramatically but he was a fairly beloved figure once, back in the NewGrounds days.

Thanks for the comfyness and the feels mates, it's been a shitty week, and these really made me smile

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Sorry, I meant ""ironic""

So basically like Nagatoro?
Well I respectfully must disagree with it because of just how slippery of a line it is to cross into full blown bullying without the love.
Although it could just be me acting like a optimistic idiot alternatively.
I think a better alternative could be something like a Buford/Baljeet relationship where there is bullying happening, there is also poking fun at it.

Examples of what I mean:
youtu.be/_OdiN6V9W6s
youtu.be/Wy75Ys0IBgk
youtu.be/J5Jz4u8_J4U

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>y'know, THE King David?
>pretty confident he never saw the exile
You realize there was no such person in real life? Nor was there any such kingdom during the time that David and Solomon supposedly lived?

David is one of the origin myth stories concocted hundreds of years later as the Jewish people started forming their own national identity.

Not trying to shit on anyone's faith here, but the actual history of how the Jewish scriptures got written is pretty interesting if you want to read up on it.

bump, this has been a comfy thread

Cardio kills gains, though

whenever you have urge to post cunny or nigger again, think about this comic

I wear this hat of webs
Upon my liars throne

I think its the eyes, cold, button eyes

Relevant lawcomic: terrorism.lawcomic.net/pg-13-brief-history-of-judea/

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>Redistributing this is unfair to those who already have a lot.

You should be dead.

I am literally laughing out loud now.
I don't even know why.

God, I love this place.

>Looks like they already fixed it

God, they are so pathetic.

>Yahweh was a wind god

I fucking knew it. Wind and lightning is still the most balling combination of elements.

>you guys feel such a loss

I see what you did there.

>If Jesus didn't die on the cross, we'd all still be judged for our sins. As long as you believe Jesus is your Lord and savior, paradise awaits.

...Is that really what you believe? Personally?

>deserves

But that wasn't the point. He SAID "I have nothing", so he clearly was worried about that. The others shared from their plenty out of the kindness of their hearts.

Ironic, but your post makes me go 'Jesus Christ..."

...Can't you once, just ONCE keep your scholastic theology out of our silly comics threads!

Careful. They'll call you a furfag.

Source?

Yea Forums is still love.

There is.
"Gaydar".

It sounds bad mainly because it's a contradiction in terms.

>Not trying to shit on anyone's faith here

you're not?

even though you're asserting that the whole of the Tanakh/Old Testament is a man-made fabrication rather than a supernatural revelation from the Creator God, the Lord Jesus Christ himself?

well if you're not 'trying' to poop on Christianity, then i'd suggest you get an antidiarrheal because in my considered opinion you've lost all control of your bowels

i mean, you seem to have looked into some sources on this subject, so surely you understand that the Hebrew Scriptures are foundational texts to the whole of the Christian faith; their details of whom the Messiah was to be, what He would deal with, and even when He would appear, all undergirding how the modern believer should perceive Christ, yeah?

so while you may say you're not meaning to detract from the trust Christians place in their God to reveal such things from outside Time thousands of years before the events, your actions belie that and show you to be an enemy of Christians everywhere

thankfully for you, our God and Lord commands us to love our enemies, huh?

> just ONCE keep your scholastic theology out of our silly comics threads!

we're not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with us

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Just stop with your weird vendetta against people who don't think like you. Stop being a bigot.

>That one christian comic that started going down the shitter when the creator's mental health started to fade
Anyone remember it?

Nah, "gaydar" isn't quite it. Maybe "Wuffle Syndrome".

>Hebrew Scriptures are foundational texts to the whole of the Christian faith
Except most Christian religions accept that these texts are not historical fact, and understand that much of the Old Testament was never meant to be taken literally. Evangelical Protestants are the exception, not the norm.

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my art isn't consistent or good but i wanted to doodle something for this thread

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>yo everybody check out my ability to quote aramaic that makes me more educated than you and therefore right
>also imma spell "crucifixion" like a sperg

you might as well try to convince me that lord of the rings is the true gospel based on your knowledge of elvish

oh please, user -- if you don't have the Old Testament prophecies of Whom and what Christ is, then you don't have Christianity

ask any Roman Catholic worth their salt whether they can deny that Jesus is the suffering servant of Isaih 53-54, or the 'One like a son of man' from Daniel 7

if they deny either of these they are anathema to their Holy Mother Church -- and that's just the tip of the iceberg of such prophecies of Christ in the OT

I chuckled. Thanks for sharing.

>ask any Roman Catholic worth their salt whether they can deny that Jesus is the suffering servant of Isaih 53-54
Catholic doctrine isn't that clear cut. It teaches that this was a metaphor for the nation of Israel itself. Isaiah explicitly says so several times, after all. And this is in the context of Isaiah talking about Israel being returned to its land. As with many other OT prophetic scripture, Jesus is seen as taking it to a new, higher level beyond what was originally meant. He's not THE suffering servant, but rather a more awesome manifestation of the metaphor.

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>Catholic doctrine isn't that clear cut. It teaches that this was a metaphor for the nation of Israel itself.

that's a self-defeating statement, you can't have your cake and eat it pal

either RC doctrine isn't clear-cut, OR it dogmatically affirms that Isaiah's Suffering Servant is Israel

so is there a papal bull you're privy to that affirms your position that Jesus is not THE Suffering Servant?

y'know, Jesus yeah?

the very model of the Suffering Servant who obeyed God in everything, even unto death on the cross, saying 'not my will but Thine'?

you think any historically orthodox RC would say that Jesus is not THE Suffering Servant?

i think your bowels have loosened again buddy, because that is unfettered excrement you're spouting

>surely you understand that the Hebrew Scriptures are foundational texts to the whole of the Christian faith; their details of whom the Messiah was to be, what He would deal with, and even when He would appear, all undergirding how the modern believer should perceive Christ, yeah?

Seriously, PISS THE FUCK OFF.

I think I prefer the /pol/tards.

>thankfully for you, our God and Lord commands us to love our enemies, huh?

Implied threat, backed up by centuries of bloodshed. Piss the hell off, you god-bothering bastard.

>Not trying to shit on anyone's faith here
>you're not?
i am

all your knowledge is based on looking at a book real hard. a book written by some iron age people that were maybe transcribing/embellishing on some other illiterate people's oral stories, like about that one local cult leader they liked a lot. and then some other other people in power picked the stories that were most useful for them to proliferate to the masses. and when those masses were finally allowed to actually read the shit they just picked whichever ones that were convenient/vague enough for them to talk about and ignored the rest (i mean why you gotta do leviticus like that).

some people study credible subjects based in rigorous metrics and evidence to build machines of unfathomable intricacy and to predict with absolute precision the movements of the fucking cosmos.

but hey, you sure have looked at that one book a whole lot, here's an unaccredited degree, congrats.

why has this one fucking peaceful thread turned into mental illness central

>if you don't have the Old Testament prophecies of Whom and what Christ is,
that ain't how "whom" works, my dude

again, your use of what you think is intelligent-sounding language doesn't give you extra credibility. especially when you use the language wrong. how embarrassing, i feel embarrassed for you.

welcome to Yea Forums
i have the day off work
and i just spent the night with a girl that i'm too chicken shit to break up with
and i'm bored
so i'm here to party

>predict with absolute precision the movements of the fucking cosmos

oh user, you can't have induction in a Godless universe

things just happen peradventure and can't be mapped nor predicted when it's all just down to random chance

i mean, c'mon; you mock Christians for believing in miracles, but your atheistic worldview demands that they happen all the time, such as... oh i dunno... how about when absolutely nothing -- no thing at all --suddenly just becomes everything, all at once, everywhere, creating that same 'everywhere' as it explodes into being

now how can you chart that, or predict it would happen when it has never happened before

oh wait, it's all cyclical isn't it; entropy reduces everything to absolutely nothing again, and then after a bit, for no good reason at all, since there's no prime mover, it all just explodes again into everything

well hey, now you have infinite and eternal matter which exists even when it doesn't exist

... and you call us unscientific

but hey, seeing as big bangs just happen all the time, then how do we know they aren't just gonna happen any minute - or how about they suddenly create a sky full of your flying spaghetti monsters because hey; this stuff just happens sometimes in an infinite multi-dimensional cosmos of all possibilities, don't it?

eejit

Jesus gets a capital 'W' in whom

>they can deny that Jesus is the suffering servant of Isaih 53-54

Matthew took whatever he could find and pretended it referred to... someone we otherwise know absolutely nothing about, because there are no sources.

>things just happen peradventure and can't be mapped nor predicted when it's all just down to random chance

This is why people want to piss on religious folks. The absolute absence of a prefrontal cortex.

you're willing to bet your life on that unfounded assertion

that's the very definition of insanity pal

as an apology to the thread for encouraging the christfag, some actual content

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>you think any historically orthodox RC would say that Jesus is not THE Suffering Servant?
Catholicism sees Isaiah as more a dilemma than anything else. It teaches that the book has several authors, 1-39 being by or about the original Isaiah, 40-55 written by an anonymous author who lived during the transition from Babylonian to Persian rule, and 56-66 are various writings after the exile and diaspora that were collected by adherents of Isaiah.
According to Catholic doctrine, the user who wrote 40-55 was writing for the comfort of Jews living at the time, and that the "suffering servant" was the Jews themselves. He's telling them that their suffering brought them closer to God, and they'll be greatly rewarded for it.
Catholicism goes on to teach that this passage was "fulfilled" later in Jesus Christ, giving it new meaning, and for everyone not just Jews.

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>Catholicism goes on to teach that this passage was "fulfilled" later in Jesus Christ

well much as i thank you for confirming my point that any historically orthodox RC worth their salt would state that Christ is THE Suffering Servant, i don't see your point

are you saying that the Roman Catholic Magisterium denies that Isaiah 43-44 was revealed by inspiration from God to its author(s)?

>oh user, you can't have induction in a Godless universe
according to who(m)? this is a pretty baldly baseless claim.

>things just happen peradventure and can't be mapped nor predicted when it's all just down to random chance
now the egg is on my face, i'm arguing with a person unironically using the word "peradventure."
anyway, yes. yes things can be predicted. pattern-finding is literally the fucking basis for like every part of cognition, what the fuck is wrong with you. you don't need a god to understand that when you drop a thing it will fall???

>now how can you chart that, or predict it would happen when it has never happened before
wow there sure is something instead of nothing. this definitely proves that the specifically christian god is the one that made that happen, hoo boy the whole water into wine thing really makes sense now.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
i'm sorry but the universe has no obligation to make itself known to you. sometimes complicated important things can't be explained so pithily, let alone to a psychopath. so read i guess.

>then how do we know they aren't just gonna happen any minute
we don't. have you noticed that scientists don't actually like talking in absolutes? priests and shit talk in absolutes because having answers makes you feel good, and it's in their best interest to make you feel good and to rely on your emotions first.

but scientists don't care about your emotions (often to their detriment, because it leads to dumb discussions like this), they care about accuracy. and if you want to be accurate, you literally don't know what will happen next. the best you can say is that you have extremely high confidence in something based on previous tests and emergent patterns.

trust me, if i could believe i would, because life is a lot easier in a church for a straight white boy like me. but i unfortunately can't just abandon reason and ignore evidence for the sake of my emotional wellbeing.

>according to who(m)? this is a pretty baldly baseless claim.

i see your who(m) and appreciate the callback

still, Induction is the very basis of SCIENCE ain't it - y'know, giving you an educated opinion on what's most likely to happen because of what has happened before, yeah?

but user, if the whole cosmos is left to peradventure which is a perfectly cromulent word, then we only have our limited faculties to rely on, and what has happened in the small time-scale of human existence, and the even shorter time of recorded history, has only been observed and meditated on for a couple of hundred thousand years at most... and since much of our species' collective intellect used that time cogitating on how to catch something to eat, or was otherwise distracted, we don't really have that much reliable data, do we?

but hey, a couple of hundred years ago some christians came along and said; "y'know what lads, the God of the Bible says that His heavens declare His glory; we should observe our surroundings to better know Him", and so such boys as Galileo and Newton operating on the presumption that we live in an ordered and observable universe, made by an ordered and observable God, went about the task of observing Him by His handiwork as well as His recorded revelation in Scripture

and so we get the formation of the SCIENCE-terrific method, which holds that what has happened in the past will happen again the next time we stick our hands in the blender

but... if we live in a God-less reality, where nothing is certain to repeat itself, then we lose all ability to predict what that blender will do in EVERY instance, cos well... y'just never know eh, and maybe this time you'll discover an ability to fly, or better yet: how to reattach fingers

and if you can't predict what's gonna happen next, you destroy the whole foundation of SCIENCE so you might as well take up post-modern basket weaving

The mere statement of having a peaceful thread is enough to attract people who are, for better or for worse, only on this site for the sole purpose of starting shit with everyone else.

It like a legendary contradiction. Positive threads attract negative people.

Hitler Paradox.

This Tatsuya is long time dead. STOP dropping his shit here.

i swear i'm gonna get off this juice, i can quit whenever i want to, just one more stab.

your argument is that humans were dumb and the first scientists were christians? what the fuck? does aristotle mean nothing to you? what about literally all of these boys???
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science

scientists have come from every possible background for literally as long as humans have had the cognitive capacity to test shit out and iterating and telling their progeny who tested shit more and figured it out better. none of this is related to christianity beyond maybe some of the ones in the past few hundred years were christians. but then WAIT einstein was jewish ok everybody stop what you're doing judaism is the right one after all. or WAIT actually i just looked it up, he was into the pantheistic God of Baruch Spinoza ok that's the one we got it boys

wait and then your argument is that patterns exist because god put them there? again: what the fuck?? where are you getting this from???

how are you jumping from the existence of patterns to "patterns can't exist without a divine thing deciding for there to be patterns, oh also that divine thing looks like a bipedal ape with a penis and there was this time when he used to just straight up talk to ancient people in their native language but he doesn't do that anymore and then he broke his own pattern of entropy to make a boy come back to life after being dead for a hot sec"

there is no evidence of a god. you can use that to say "absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence," fine i guess (for this purpose anyway). but you cannot use that to mean "patterns = god." let afuckinglone "patterns = god = christian god." this. is. ludicrous.

and why the hell am i not entitled to like the old comic better?

mate, you're trying too hard

tl;dr if you deny God you embrace a universe without constants -- if you deny constants, you break SCIENCE

i'm sorry i made it too complicated for you with bits about blenders and stuff, but that's all there really is to my argument

dwi

Because that's the patriarchy controlling your tastes. The old comic was sinful. It didn't adhere to the principles of the cult. That way lies damnation. You do want your soul to be saved, don't you, user?

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You seem to be holding on to the belief that a loving skygod exists when nothing in this world suggests that. If a god does exist he is beyond us and apathetic because we are nothing more than a speck across the sands of the cosmos. Assuming that souls even exist and there is something beyond death. Which is hard to belive considering how much our brain and it's functions determine how sentient we are

I love Benny

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>if you deny God you embrace a universe without constants

Retard.

ever had food without the right amount of salt? horrifying. there's a reason people used to be paid in salt.

> You seem to be holding on to the belief that a loving skygod exists when nothing in this world suggests that

i would argue that the existence of reliable witness testimonies from the 4 Gospels as to that God becoming a man to live a perfect life, die a redeeming death, and resurrecting so that all who put their trust in Him will be rescued from eternal death, doesn't just 'suggest' that God exists

it positively yells it in your face

proof mi rong

>Sequel

whooo this comic didn't age well.

We live in a sick world where kindergarten-level morals about sharing are attacked with accusations of communist propaganda.

right lads, i'm gonna make a cup of decaf tea and wind it down for the night

catch ya later

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exactly. we've been taught that the world is such a miserable, cold place that any genuine happiness or contentment MUST have some untold evil lurking behind it.

Raven pls go

It's pretty frightening to see how oblivious and unaware of reality people have become. The chemical castration is real.

How many millennia of theological debate do you want me to go back?

I hope your need to believe in something that doesn't exist makes you feel better.

its called "being able to recognize bara"

YOU'RE the one making the claim, retard.

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Isn't that the guy who got like a dozen people killed by throwing a hissyfit over "muh book"?

...How? What's the story there?

>his natural defense negated, the dolphins then proceeded to rape Larry to death

Who IS this guy?
Why does he draw these?

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no, but maybe get more frames of reference, like they seem to be written in a way as to evoke unconscious organizations and conclusions, like leading questions.

The only joke I can find here is maybe they prefer the metric system?

awh man this is sad

I do this with my dad

bjennymontero.com/
>Why does he draw these?
He has powerful emotions I guess

>The only explanation for consistent laws of nature is the Judeo-Christian god.
What's wrong with "this is just how matter and energy and shit happen to work"?

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Bike cuck

Why do these comics freak me out so much?! Nothing creepy is happening but they fucking put me on edge everytime I see them. Why!?

Even if I accept that the universe cannot exist without god, why would I believe in the christian god or even a singular god? If one god can exist why not a billion? There a other religions with less internal contradictions than the mess that is the gospels, aren't they more likely to be true because they're more internally consistent.
Argument is retarded. We don't need a theory of constants, we can observe what we see and trust that our observations are as correct as we can make them, and that's the best we can do. You don't need a correct theory, you just need one that consistently explains the phenomenon and makes sense based on the other observations.

The Big C. Mom has cancer and kids being a little shit to her because he hasnt come to terms with it yet. Suffice to say seeing all that kinda breaks him.

there's something about the art style that makes it unnerving

Frogs are niggers?

looking at this and comparing it to the strip now makes me think that the guy has never had a balanced view of women as flesh-and-blood humans
it's either "women are cute dolls here to enrich a male's life" or "women are godly beings here to cleanse the world of evil evil males"

it's a common problem with male feminists; all they hear is "you gotta respect women!" and basically only reskin their behavior; that pedestal-placing and infantilizing view of women is still there, just stripped of slurs and fluffed up with meaningless "empowering" language

Yeah but you need cardio or you aint ever gonna gain cause you be ded

Enjoy random dogs shiiting in your lawn

A freeloading frog in MY kitchen?! NO SOUP FOR YOU!

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>As Yahweh gained such authority, he grew in importance in the pantheon. By 750 B.C., El's wife Asherah was being depicted as YAHWEH'S wife.
I mean, do i even need to say it?

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>Trans regret snoopy
What?

>do i even need to say it?
Say what?

C U C K E D

That's it. Turns out I remembered the C, for years I've been wondering why the fuck I was remembering a The OC episode that never happened. Cheers man.

Man, for the topic to be about wholesome comics this thread is a shitshow.

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think its a reference to the pervert, that comic people keep getting banned for posting

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Haha. You had pleasant experiences

That doesn't work because Jojo is the straightest thing ever. A variation of -ovision works better.

Heh, the family picture

>the green blob clearly can't speak
>some fuck takes his pizza
>they won't let him rest
Look at his face, it's a forced smile with pain in it's eyes

Did he fuck his brother?

That was an excellent comic. Maybe I should stroy time it some day.

(You)

There's something to be said about looking at someone's non-porn work and saying "Man, this dude is a gay furfag."

Like A Fox in Space. Fine enough little web cartoon. But, man. Something about that show screams "I am a gay furfag" on all open radio frequencies.

Isn't it exhausting to live like this?

I've actually gotten that from reading a random tweet. The tweet wasn't about furry stuff and the profile image wasn't a fursuit, but it was about something adjacent to furfaggotry and everything about the way it was written made me think of a furfag and it turned out true. Made me think twice about what you can tell by someone's text.

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is it really?
i skipped most of the drama stuff to the sex pages and the ending and thought the bit at the end when he re united with his dad was sweet

Yahweh was, functionally their God of War. This is a time of a pantheon of gods, but generally people worshiped a patron. So, low and behold, let's wonder why Yahweh became important during peirods of extreme warfare.

>There a other religions with less internal contradictions than the mess that is the gospels, aren't they more likely to be true because they're more internally consistent.

while i would dispute your claim that the Gospels are self-contradicting, i would remind you that for most of this thread i've taken the position that the 4 Gospels do not exist in isolation, and the Old Testament which constantly points to the coming Messiah has a consistent narrative which was revealed to men over thousands of years -- each recording the progressive revelation of God as and when it was given them -- and this harmonious 'whole' is evidence of an Author outside of Time and Space, who knows the end from the beginning; so that when we finally reach those Gospels in question, we see the fulfilment of every promise about the Messiah in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ

not only that, but from His earliest works such as the book of Job, we see God demand that men look to the handiwork of His creation as evidence of His goodness and right to rule their lives -- something that no other religion lays claim to; the Dualisms of the East taking that more relativistic view you've intermingled with your science, or like most false belief system elsewhere, simply leave it all to mystery, encouraging a blind faith rather than the Trust based on evidence which God fosters throughout Scripture from the very start

thus i counter your claim that any other religion is as internally consistent as the Christian Faith, and i include in that your atheistic belief system which denies the reality of God; for while it proclaims itself reasonable and rational, if there are no objective laws such as Logic and Reason which exist whether man observe them or not, there can be no reasonable grounds to expect reason and logic to operate

... and objective laws demand an objective Law-Giver

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If it's anything other than a joke at Reginald's expense, it's mocking how those fancy cakes on TV are borderline inedible.

> What's wrong with "this is just how matter and energy and shit happen to work"?

the problem is when we deny their constancy, we undo SCIENCE and can no longer make reasonable claims as to the nature of reality

What cake? The only thing I know about the inauguration is how the inflated numbers are a cover for all the blatant money laundering that went under it.

Every time

It's like The Santa Clause but with demons

heh

>and objective laws demand an objective Law-Giver
Why?

Natural law isn't imposed. Nobody needs to tell nature how to behave. Matter and energy and time and all that shit just do what they do. What we call natural law isn't some RULE that photons and quarks are compelled to obey. We simply spot patterns and make our best predictions that when A and B happen, C seems to happen. We call those inferences "natural law" but they are merely a human supposition, not a supernatural command.

"Natural laws" are not "laws" in the legal sense. They're just our best guess about how things already are. But even in the realm of "legal" law, you don't need a lawgiver. The English Common Law, for example, came about by observing how people generally behaved without formal rules in place, and tried to infer general patterns and principles that could be applied by courts.

Nature doesn't need a lawgiver to tell it how to be. It just is.

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Next time make the thread "GOOD and wholesome comics"

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Nobody's denying that "matter and energy and shit" are consistent in how they behave. They're denying that the Judeo Christian god is necessary for such consistency.

By the way, that god's own believers didn't imbue him with powers of creation until the 400s BCE. For a thousand years before that, he was just one of many gods in the Canaanite pantheon, gradually becoming more prominent in Judah. In the 700s BCE, as the tribal peoples were forming small ethnic states, each identified a god from the pantheon as "our" god, and Yahweh became the official god of Judah. But he was still one of many, and not at all a creator. From the 700s to the 500s BCE, the Yahweh religion began to separate itself from the general Canaanite pantheon, but only gradually, and largely as a way of distinguishing "us" from "them." They were still polytheistic by the end of this period, it's just that Yahweh was the only god THEY were allowed to worship. During all this time, they'd been conquered and exiled several times by the surrounding empires, and now they were people without the roots and common culture necessary to bond as "A" people. And so they made one. That's when Yahweh transitioned from being "the only god we worship" to being "the only god," with all the supernatural powers of the old pantheon plus every other power that gods hadn't even been given before. Such as creation of the universe and setting everything in motion. This new Yahweh was a good story, and it did the job very well! But that doesn't make it TRUE. A Yahweh worshipper from only a couple of generations before that wouldn't have recognized him as the same god.

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>Nature doesn't need a lawgiver to tell it how to be. It just is.

is that statement true?

does it remain true, whether i subscribe to it, or even observe it?

if so, that's an objective reality, ain't it?

similarly, are the laws of physics constant whether we observe them or not?

yeah?

well then what if our Singularity had had a slight twist to its big bang, so the laws of physics which currently apply to our continuum got warped a little and had become something altogether alien to our current understanding -- would we be able to even observe them, let alone imagine them?

or how about Logic -- does Logic operate in all spheres, extant of the laws that govern our Cosmos, or is it relative to the sphere it operates on?

if our current laws of Logic only apply to this frame of reference, then we can make no reasonable claims as to what goes on outside our experience, and it's all relative maaaaan, and anything we are discussing here would bear no relation to truth, so it would be pointless to continue

but user, neither you nor i think Logic is relative, because both of us are implicitly presupposing an objective standard or 'truth', and arguing that our perspective is the correct one

so my position is that we are both innately subscribing to a Higher Law - something greater than ourselves - and such Higher Laws demand a Higher Law-Giver

>By the way, that god's own believers didn't imbue him with powers of creation until the 400s BCE.

are you the user from earlier ITT that holds to the conspiracy theory that the OT was written 400 BC?

bbl gotta GO OUTSIDE

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>and such Higher Laws demand a Higher Law-Giver
You keep saying that, but you never explain why they demand one. You spend a lot of words saying there is a higher law, but no words explaining why a higher law has to be ordained by anyone.
There is zero reason why a law-giver is required. The way things are is just the way things are.

>low and behold
Is this some earthly realm pun or do you actually think that's the saying?

they should, its awful.

What? No. Mom's just a big ol' satanic slut.

>similarly, are the laws of physics constant whether we observe them or not?
According to some tests, not really.

Maybe your religion is made up. Maybe it's not. However, the fact of the matter is that the bible was written by humans. Even if you believe god gave visions to its various authors, at the end of the day it was still humans that transcribed it. Fallible humans who we have no way of verifying actually had a vision or not. For all we know the Book of David is completely true and god truly was speaking through that one, while Leviticus was some shroom induced dream.
Just take some of the scriptures with a grain of salt? They contradict each other at varying points and the important thing is to understand the underlying messages. Stories and allegories can still impart religious lessons of god's love while being completely inaccurate from a historical standpoint.

>Well they SHOULD receive a reward in the form of resources.
Payment, it's called payment in the form of salary, it is a resource that has the agreed upon property to acquire other resources.

This one makes me feel good for some reason. Probably the thought of having friends.

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where's the joke

It's Gedda.

>if there are no objective laws such as Logic and Reason which exist whether man observe them or not, there can be no reasonable grounds to expect reason and logic to operate

The fact is that they do operate, whether you are absolutely sure of all observations. If I gave you a graph you could draw all kind of objective conclusions based on observations, and notice patterns even if the graph is bullshit or describes nothing at all. Same way with the observable world. Its what we've got and it doesn't matter if our eyes are objective as long as we can describe it in a consistent way.

Is this Garfield.jpeg?

>the conspiracy theory that the OT was written 400 BC
>conspiracy theory
>evolving consensus of scholars from multiple disciplines, though still an area of active research

722 BCE: Assyria conquers Israel.

Afterwards: First books of OT written in Judah, as a response. First version of Amos.

649-609 BCE: Yoshiyahu makes Judah's religion an official state religion. First versions of Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Samuel, and Kings.

609-587 BCE: Babylonian destruction.

Afterwards: OT books rewritten in response.

520-515 BCE: Many return to Judah.

500-400 BCE: Returned Jews compile, revise, and edit most of the OT to create a national identity. Start building Second Temple. Anti-iconic, so statue of the god replaced with an empty throne (the Ark). Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers written. Deuteronomy revised to predict destruction to come, and added as a conclusion to the Torah. Torah an origin myth for the new nation. First stories of a messiah, a human king to rule Israel at the end of time.

400-001 BCE: The remaining several books continue to be added and revised over subsequent centuries, all the way up to 1 BCE. In other words, if Jesus was born in 4 BCE, he was born before the OT was finished being written.

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It's those beady little eyes.

Bullshit.

The Dark Son Rises

Stop Capitalizing Random Words and get your lips off the cocks of dead men.

>the OT was written 400 BC?

Heavily edited, more like.

What's up with religious/philosophical/whatever discussion?

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Me obriga.

Holy fuck lmao

castrated snoylifornians telling the world acting like a programmed communist toddler devoid of individuality and emotion is good and desirable. It's like bikefag but worse.

>Yea Forums Posting wholesome comics while debating theology
>/pol/ complaining about some black kid crossing the street
I chose the right board

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>JoJo is the straightest thing ever
no homo

Why is this so cringe? This honestly seems like manga fan service. Sexy sexy succubus makes awkward nerd boy feel awkward with her sexy sex flirting, all the while SJWs get btfo

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