'Superman should be the first hero!'

JSA would work very well if they used it as a starting point to make a legacy continuity using many of the newer themes and characters. We could have thomas wayne be golden age batman followed by his son who is followed by damian. Hell, all the broody style stories told with batman would fit him well.

Similarly, You could twist superman so that jor-el is the first superman. You could also use the year a character was introduced in the real world as the year of their in-universe debut. On the editor side of things, you could essentially have an empty timeline with any single comic having to happen in a specific set of dates which are then taken and not reused. So you would be filling in the contibuity as you go rather than create everything in one swoop.

Modern technology means you would be able to create a database for consultation fairly cheap.

He's supposed to be. It's in the fucking name: Superman. Not Averageman.
What do you want? Superman's not only DC's first superhero, but he's the first superhero period. Without Superman there wouldn't anyone else. Capeshit wouldn't exist. So i'm sorry, but yeah Superman IS that important.

You're an idiot, he's super man not omnipotent man

He doesn't need to be Omnipotentman. He just needs to be Superman. Better than everyone else that's a who, but not all powerful so there can't be any villains to pose him a threat. The point is that nobody should outshine Superman in anything. Ever. Everyone is just flavor material. When Superman shows up, you should feel as a reader that the day is saved, because that's a job for Superman.

What Superman are you talking about? Not the original.

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So typical. Yes, Superman originally wasn't so powerful in his early stories, but that quickly changed and by his own creator hands. During the 40s Superman was already doing all kinds of incredible stuffs. You people are as bad as casuals that tries to argue that Batman used to kill once.

What matters is that Superman should be special. He should be the first superhero as well the perfect hero. He should be the inspiration and moral guidance to every other hero. When everyone is down and the day seems to be lost, that's when Superman shows up to save the day and remind them why they do what they do. Everyone else do and should own him for what they are. Everyone. And the existence of the JSA kinda robs that.

>but he's the first superhero period.

Depends, one could easily argue that the Phantom was the first character who can be considered a "superhero".

Superman is just a wannabe jumping on the hype train of comicbook heroism, too slow by half.

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I think the JSA and Supes could coexist as different forerunners of movements. Make superheroics die off after the JSA disbands, and then let Superman lead and inspire the new generation of heroes. It ain’t that hard.

Only if you take away the superpowers of every JSA character, so they're not super-heroes, just random masked vigilantes.

Don’t know where you’ve been but Batman has been DCs protagonist for the past 30 years. I agree with you about Superman but it’s hard to make an argument when his own company has relegated him to “dumbass ubermench who’s always proven wrong by Batman”.
But he SHOULD be treated better. The JSA as well too.

OP and Superfags could do so much good if they actually teamed up against DCs frat editorial

And i fucking hate it. I fucking hate everything DC has done with Superman. The situation with Batman is so fucking out of ridiculous that it's like as if Wolverine had become the defacto leader of the Avengers and was constantly giving Captain America moral lessons. It's that crazy and dumb. Batman was supposed to be the loner that doesn't work well with others and is constantly pulling some stupid shit. He's supposed to be the Wild Card. But because of the unchecked Batwank Superman has been relegated to a side-character.

Too bad that superhero comics didn't follow this style but went with gay skintight bodysuit and pants combo (cape optional but recommended).

>the JSA work best as a WWII team

Not anymore they don't.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR A SUPERHERO TEAM TO ALL BE 100 YEARS OLD.

Who cares?

They all have valid reasons you jackass. Read comics.

I also love how that guy you're responding to assumes everyone in the JSA is still alive from the 1940's onward. Pretty clear he doesn't read comics.

This could all be solved if DC brought back the original Earth-2 Superman in a Powergirl-like role (displaced survivor). That way you'd have Superman as the first hero, the JSA AND also a modern young Superman

It's kind of bizarre to me that with all the Silver/Bronze Age love DC's creators show E2 Superman is ignored.

That was essentially what happened post-crisis. The main issue is that it still leads to incongruous scenes where Superman talks about the JSA being his inspiration.

>i really like the idea of a modernized earth 2 in theory. but it hasn't worked out so far.

Me too. New 52 Earth 2 had the right idea with an interesting premise but the execution was trash.

Shit, you’re one of those Superfags that hate the Justice League and think Superman should be faster than Flash.

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There are two ways that the JSA should be approached.

If your going to go the alternate universe rout you need to 1) Keep them as having beenm active during the 40's and 50's. Have so because of "Earth 2" being younger universe compared to "Earth 1" WWII occurred only a couple of decades ago. 2) Don't erase their continuity and legacy characters. Keep Obsidian, Jade, Stargirl, Maxine and the rest. This is what DC should have done with the New 52 Earth 2. Have the JSA and their asociated characters continue on directly from where they were before flashpoint, just on another earth. Instead they gave us an Ultimate-ified JSA, while relocating some of their legacy characters divorced of their legacy, like Mr Terrific and Stargirl to the main N52 continuity, which no one wanted.

Or you can have them in historical role in the main universe. They existed and were active during the forties and retired in the fifties. By the time of the modern day stories most of them are dead(with a few exceptions) and represented by legacy characters who would probably have to gain a generation or so removing them from the originals(example; the current Black Canary being the golden age black canary's granddaughter in stead of daughter). This of course means Superman has to settle for being the first superhero of the modern age instead of the first superhero period. I personally don't see why Superman needs or should be the first superhero in universe period. It seems like an artificial way to make him see more important. You also may want to consider the alternate universe implications of what our world's culture would be like for the concept of a Superhero to not exist until 5,10,15 or however many years ago sliding timeline we're suppose to be on. The JSA existing historically during the forties helps plug that hole and allows the DC universe to more plausibly resemble our own culturally.

How is than any worse than The Legion of Superheroes meeting Clark as a teenager?

Superman isn't even the first hero in the DC Universe. Please give Doctor Occult the respect he deserves.