Ocean Master

He's literally perfect for a minor bank robbing villain. He's got an interesting and dynamic power for fights

Alliteration is not a superpower Pete

A gymnast in yellow tights armed with banana peels would be more impressive and 'dynamic' for 'fights' against an incompetent superhero.

Why the fuck are the Fantastic Four, a group of people altered by cosmic radiation with amazing and mind-bending abilities handling minor bank robberies?

Indeed, what comics need nowadays are more Armless Tiger Men!

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That would be cool, but eccentric hyper specific effect guns are amazing for comics

Johnny has a desire for showy public displays of his powers, and the Thing is an everyman who cares about the people and his local neighborhood. Mr. Fantastic obviously only cares about his research

Unironically I agree

It was for Stan Lee. He made bank off of it.

It his name was Master Seaman or Master Baiter then I would agree

>beats snare drum

Any character with the word master in their name has that issue these days. Mirror Master? Also gay.

You might be projecting

No but it the faggiest.

The difference is that a double amputee martial artist is a pretty good concept and a villain on-par with non-powered hero like Angel. Paste-Pot Pete is a guy with a glue gun being massively outclassed by the Human Torch. For fuck's sake, it's just an airspray gun hooked to a bucket of glue, he didn't even bother with a canister or reservoir; it's an open-topped bucket with hose attached, a bunch of it is sloshing out.

You're thinking in video game terms. You aren't thinking in comic book terms. You're forgetting that most of the issue will be Johnny losing his advantage in battle due to his arrogance and show boating. You're also forgetting that he's not going to just horrifically burn PPP to death, he has to use complicated tricks and schemes with his powers. Burning glue traps is a going to be a big part of it too

No, it's basic conflict writing. "Thinking in comic book terms," as you put it, is making your hero retarded to justify why he didn't wipe the floor with the guy. Johnny can fly, negating 3P's weapon function, Johnny can use his control over flames to destroy or weaken 3P's glue, Johnny can use his ability to project flames to destroy the giant, dangling pail of glue that 3P is carrying that is supplying his gun. Paste-Pot Pete is a poor matchup for Johnny Storm unless you're intentionally trying to make one of them a joke. Actually thinking in comic book terms would be rewriting the story to feature the Thing, who is at a disadvantage against Paste-Pot Pete.

>"Thinking in comic book terms," as you put it, is making your hero retarded to justify why he didn't wipe the floor with the guy

user, it IS Johnny Storm we're talking about here.

He's still not that retarded.

>Is Ocean Master the gayest supervillain name ever?
Not even close.

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Scourge did nothing wrong.

He would eventually attempt all of these things through numerous slip ups and set backs due to cocky behavior. Probably exchange a few rounds where Johnny is showing off by shooting Petes glue shots out of the air with his fire balls, zipping around them in the air and shit. You're holding this weird expectation that Johnny has to just efficiently end the conflict as quickly as possible

Or Johnny could just completely fucking style on him and get the same effect.

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>no grindhouse/exploitation revamp where he's a brutally violent and sadistic top going around necro-pozzing criminals

well then.

So... Why completely flip his origin?

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Because, "fuck you, I'm gonna build me a suit that lets me breath underwater and try to conquer the ocean because I'm a salty bitch about our childhood," isn't a particularly great backstory. His later, post-Crisis motivation was even worse.

What's wrong with Ocean Master as a name? How is it any gayer than Magneto or The Riddler?

>His later, post-Crisis motivation was even worse.
What's that?

"Dad didn't love me, Arthur fucked that chick I like, guess I'm gonna be a supervillain now."

It’s obvious you don’t read comics, since Paste-Pot Pete was rebranded as the Trapster with an upgraded, varied weapons arsenal within 2 years of his debut. Evidently Lee and Kirby agreed with you 50+ years ago. And yet no one can let go of “lol paste pot pete was so lame”

If Lee and Kirby agreed with my point 50+ years ago, then why were you arguing against me? Also, him originally being Paste Pot Pete has been referenced occasionally as a source of mockery in-universe.