Aladdin can still tell the truth to Jasmine. But what would Jafar do? Just hide the rest of his life? Possibly stage a coup after Aladdin becomes the sultan?
What if Aladdin had wished Genie free here?
He could probably prove he's a phony prince quite easily, shame the royal family for mixing with plebeians, and get some sort of "make Agrabah great again" movement going.
More importantly, why didn't Aladdin just give the lamp to Jasmine in the end so she could wish for food and resources to solve the city's poverty problems and then wish the genie free?
>phony prince
That's always bugged me, Aladdin's wish wasn't to be made a phony prince, it was to be made a prince. Thus he should be an actual prince. Like, when Jafar wishes to become an all-powerful sorcerer or genie, he doesn't become a phony, he *is* those things, thanks to the genie's phenomenal cosmic powers.
So it follows that before Jafar's now all-powerful sorcery takes it away, Aladdin's an actual prince, and being phony is all in his head and wouldn't ever be a factor. It can't be proven that he isn't a prince, because he is.
So Aladdin just was being a huge dumbass and a huge dick to the genie.
>More importantly, why didn't Aladdin just give the lamp to Jasmine in the end so she could wish for food and resources to solve the city's poverty problems and then wish the genie free?
Because she wants to keep the poverty going; poverty is the only thing that keeps the people from rising up and overthrowing them, as they depend on their occasional alms.
discovery of the existence of a brand new nation of Ababwa and a couple million subjects would have been an interesting bit to explore in the cartoon.
Anyway, one of the points of the movie is that Aladdin had to deal with the fact that there was nothing new or better about him for being "made a prince". Just a bunch of swag to shake around, without nothing fundamentally changing in himself
General theory is that because of Genie's wish Aladdin's dad became the King of Thieves making him the Prince of Thieves. So he is a prince, just not one of those poncy fuckers in a palace.
Its not like Genie's created people/animals are lasting manifestations, the whole parade rode to town on don't appear anywhere else.
I don't think he can create an entire nation that will continue to exist on its own with a snap of his fingers.
Abu remains an elephant until before undone by Jafar, so as far as evidence is concerned Genie's magc is lasting and the parade guys were just chilling elsewhere while their lord and prince was busy extending the kingdom by trying to seduce the daughter of that sultan guy.
I like this theory because Genie was clearly still miffed with Aladdin tricking him to help him out of the Cave of Wonders for free so did a half-wish that Aladdin benefitted from but one that didn't give him the royal station he was actually looking for with Jasmine. The pomp and pizzaz was just Genie showing off while his cosmic powers essentially made Aladdin a Prince of Thieves by elevating his father to that station. Not that Genie seemed to know that at all, his magic could have filled the blanks there.
Well, Jaffar WAS made a Genie for reals. The exact scope of their powers is imprecise
That's different though, that's Abu modified into another form, while the parade seem to just be formed out of thin air and manipulated by Genie's will, like the dancers during his first big musical number.
There's an episode of the show where Iago becomes a genie and makes everyone in Agrabah rich in jewels, but it also decreases the worth of the jewels.
Misery is more likely to cause revolt; comfort tends to lead to stability as people fear change if they are already satisfied
That was a great episode.
Iago tries to prove that genie is an idiot by using magic to solve all of Agraba's social problems, but everything he does makes the people worse off in the long run.
Moral of the story is that Genie is right to do jack shit all with his powers.
What sort of magic they try? I can't believe something like "make everybody get a loaf of bread every day" would backfire
If Genie had the script right there then how come he didn't know that Al would free him at the end of the movie?
The script doesn't tell him to spoil that reveal so he couldn't.
He does make food for everyone, but the merchants who only know how to make food now have no marketable skills, and the abundance of food also ends up attracting monsters from the desert.
The user you're responding to is, I think, using the logic you hear on Fox about how the Democrats want people to be poor, but also they support welfare because it controls them.
In reality, the way it works is somewhere in between. North Korea is a really interesting example. They live in horrible poverty and rely on the government for rations, but when the government can't provide they turn to black markets. At one point, the black markets began to really rise and certain groups were starting to accumulate wealth, and through wealth, power. NK then decided to reform their currency and wiped out everyone's wealth, saying you could only exchange a certain amount of the old cash for the new. This reasserted reliance on the government and prevented new factions from gaining power.
In terms of control, the trick is that things have to get better before they get worse. The hungry make good soldiers but the starving can't lift a sword, so things have to improve enough that people can pick themselves up out of the gutters.
The common poverty across Agrabah wouldn't apply to this comparison because there's a broader variety of social strata. It also doesn't apply to America for the same reason. Additionally, most similar regimes have already collapsed and reformed after a well-meaning dictator fed his suffering people a little too much and let a few too many others hold some cards.
>monsters from the desert
user, please, the Arabs are a proud race
How big is a loaf? Can you eat a whole loaf in one day?
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To be fair, even if Aladdin was a real prince, he still wasn't raised as one. What worried him was the prospect of becoming a Sultan one day and we're talking about a guy who's spent his entire life out on the streets with a monkey as his only companion. He doesn't know shit about ruling a country and would likely get everything fucked over and probably get murdered by someone.
One of the deleted scenes on the dvd showed that Genie transformed all the servants from a bunch of rats and roaches that all got changed back after Jafar undid everything. It makes sense and nothing in the final movie suggests that this couldn't be the case so I'm going with it.
He knew Aladdin was going to eventually make the right decision and just played along for the fun of it and so he could learn the lesson.
Didn’t they say in the musical that Genie just turned some animals into human subjects to worship Aladdin?
there was a cancelled song about it too