What exactly is Mystique's deal? She's been a bad guy, a good guy, a mercenary, a mutant-freedom terrorist zealot, a government stooge that hunts down mutants, a member of the X-Men, a teacher in supervillainy, a Hellfire Club goon that helps them in their plans to foster mutant hatred to sell more Sentinels, a psycho that just likes killing people, a rapist, Sabretooth's mortal enemy, Sabretooth's lovey-dovey lover, a good mother, a bad mother...
Seriously, the only consistent thing about her is "blue chick who can shapeshift and usually antagonizes the X-Men".
ITT: Villains with inconsistent motivations
Ryder Lopez
Mason Smith
Are you saying the double-crossing, anti-hero shapeshifter doesn't have clear enough motivation for you?
Sebastian Rivera
Don't forget when she was an alien spy.
Daniel Kelly
Xehanort from Kingdom Hearts
Grayson Perry
Has Mystique ever been a Skrull? Has a Skrull ever been Mystique?
Anthony Howard
Double-crossing anti-heroes usually double cross people because it serves in their best interests. But with Mystique, you never know what those interests actually are. Sometimes she wants to help Rogue and Nightcrawler, other times she tries to kill them. Sometimes she wants to help mutantkind, other times she doesn't give a shit about anyone but herself.
Lucas Cox
She's old, she gets bored.
Has she had anyone really serious since Destiny died? Mystique is a crazy old lady, physically still at her sexual peak. I wouldn't put anything past her.
Jason Moore
Kree-Skrull hybrid
This
Jeremiah Green
Mutants just need to die
Asher Taylor
She is purely pragmatic, her loyalties lie with however helps her with her own agenda, which usually boils down to having power
Eli Cook
She's mostly just super conflicted about wanting that ice dick. Stupid hay retcon ruining a great makeout then attempt to kill eachother dynamic.
Charles Morales
Lots of Spider-Man villains. Sometimes they're simple crooks trying to make ends meet, sometimes they're evil bastards, sometimes they're mass murderers, sometimes they want to take over the world, sometimes they just want to kill/fuck with Spider-Man...
Liam King
Her character used to be "very shady old lady who did some very fucked up things in the past and adapted to the new world through the love of her life and her mutant identity -so she has no qualms about double-crossing people to reach her goals which usually lie in Destiny's visions, so as a consequence she antagonizes the X-men and Xavier's vision through manipulating others in long cons, except she has a softer side usually related to Rouge"
Her participation in Freedom Force was always intended as a means to an end, as a continuation of her brotherhood days (also she was half-forced into it). Since her post-Singer movies days she's been in fact all over the place -Austen, Milligan, Aaron, Remender -none of them had a clue.
Cameron Lopez
>Stupid hay retcon ruining a great makeout then attempt to kill eachother dynamic.
She can just be a dude around him. Then people can lust after boy Mystique.
FUCKING HIRE ME, MARVEL, I GOT THIS SHIT.
Connor Miller
thats gay and trans gendering so thats a trap
Marvel will love it
you're hired they/them/ze/xe
Carson Watson
>no Carol x Raven hatefuck ever
Sad.
Hudson Johnson
Good, now I can retcon in the original idea that Rogue was Destiny and Mystique's baby.
Fuck it, I'll make EVERYONE Mystique's baby!
Christian Price
>ITT: Villains with inconsistent motivations
Lord Tirek
Jose Cox
She's Marvel's version of The Joker: pure evil, completely unpredictable, and with almost as much plot-armor.
And now that she's officially turned her back on Destiny (after Wolverines), what little moral compass she ever had is completely gone.
Ian Wright
Loki is the worst offender
Jacob Harris
Mischief is its own reward!
Christopher Baker
Thanos is completely inconsistent.
Dylan Foster
Michael Powell
He's just a very volatile person who can't decide if he loves or hates Asgard and his family. I like that about him tbqh.
Landon Ward
She can change her appearance, so why is it strange that she can change her mind?
Anthony Hill
she is the original eve
Samuel Hill
I wouldn't be surprised if they ret-conned her to be exactly that.
Robert Butler
Eh, with him it makes sense since he's the OG trickster archetype.
Carter Smith
What's so inconsistent about wanting kill spider-man who you see as your son because he foils your plans of becoming a crime lord, while wanting your actual son to man up and become an evil businessman like you, by killing Spider-man.
But it's all good because he's insane.
Grayson Ramirez
Don't forget the part where he was all MUH NATIONAL SECURITY ONLY I CAN SAVE THE WORLD for a while despite never actually doing anything that actually helped and only made things worse, then went right back to fucking with Spider-Man and didn't care about taking over the world anymore.
Chase Wood
Yeah,even if you only read Jim Starlin's Thanos and ignore everything else, he's still pretty inconsistent. Some of it is character development, but most of it isn't.
Jace Williams
Yawn.
>don't you get it carol? Im notbinf but a walking plot device muahahahahahahaaaa
William Hall
How old is she?
Jonathan Jackson
Pretty old, she was already an adult in 1921.
Asher Wood
100-200
Eli Ortiz
Doom changes goals and personalities every other weekend.
Jayden Adams
>Victor Von Doom will crush us under our foot in his last mad gasp of air
Then why the fuck did you free him from prison, give him his country back, and let him sit in your round table of villainy?
Ethan Reed
>who you see as your son because he foils your plans of becoming a crime lord
Wait what? When was this?
Owen Hill
Introductory Goblin.
Lots of villains basically just wanted to unite all the criminal gangs in NYC to form a crime empire.
Blake Lewis
This is so asinine and self-satisfied that you MUST write for Marvel. Is that you Aaron?
Robert Taylor
Everyone in this thread works for Marvel, and we're all going to use Mystique in our books. Deal with it.
Joseph Bennett
Because Normie is a businessman, and can guide Doom AWAY from having to end everything. He knows how to DEAL with villains, not just punch them repeatedly until they go too far.
Elijah Gutierrez
No I remember the OG stories of Goblin trying to form a criminal empire. What I don't remember is Norman saying that made him see Peter as his son.
Kayden Cox
I don't think anyone even cares about what her motivation is supposed to be, and even her fans seem to be fine as long as she's an anti-hero lesbian with Harley.
Luis Collins
You think Raven gets off on Carol beating her up?
Joshua Rodriguez
Who wouldn't?
Isaiah Hill
What is the Hellifire's deal anyway? Are they run by mutants? Are they run by people who hate mutants and want to sell Sentinels?
Ryder Martinez
>hate muties
>love redheads
>female "Nazis" are the hottest thing on earth
What should I feel towards Mystique lads?
Ayden Murphy
Angry arousal.
Henry White
>kraven gets two books
>doom only gets one
Dylan Evans
Doom said all he needed to say in ONE BOOK.
Kraven probably has a series of exciting adventures to share, though. Stories that put hair on your chest!
Aiden Green
Fair
Owen Long
Still waiting for the Ms. Marvel story where Mystique shows up and makes Kamala's whole life a living hell out of spite.
Carson Nelson
>Goes to fuck with Kamala
>Takes an odd liking to her
>Becomes a better mentor than Carol ever was out of spite
Jason Myers
Because some asshole writers who don't read comic books treat him like he's a dime-a-dozen evil dictator whose only goal is to conquer the world
Aaron Mitchell
You mean he's not?
John Myers
That pretty much sums up the X-Men franchise in general though.
Very few of them have a proper motivation much less a sustainable narrative purpose. They exist because they have powers and...thats about it...
The whole line needs to be scrapped
Ryan Gray
You can probably put almost every Batman villain in this thread.
Eli Lopez
They're just a bunch of crazy people. What do you want?