ITT: Artists who blew the mainstream chances
what happened to artist op posted?
Is he actually prolific enough to have a mainstream chance? I know he gets some attention, but did he ever really get out there enough with pure work to be noticed? And he was both a little too early and a lot too late to ride any time transhumanism was trending big.
I sincerely don't know, because I only know him from a few comics he did and some meh redesigns he put out.
Got BTFO trying to sound anti-white for weird tumblr street cred but wound up accidentally making two incredibly antisemitic statements instead because he didn't know the people he was talking about (Will Eisner and Jack Kirby) were actually Jewish.
The most well-known thing he ever did was shove both feet into his mouth and make a fool of himself in front of the professional comics industry.
>The most well-known thing he ever did was shove both feet into his mouth and make a fool of himself in front of the professional comics industry.
If he did that last year he'd just be a casualgate. And while I know the gate is actually a no no topic around here, it is a fact that EVS destroyed his mainstream chances AFTER being a huge mainstream artist. Not sure if that's better or worse than just never making it to begin with.
I honestly stopped considering being an artist as a teenager because I was afraid I would never be able to handle the criticism/community and end up like a complete sperg like Dobson and Diaz
Also my art sucks, just notebook doodles
>Got BTFO
still makes 5k dollars a month on patreon doing nothing but sucking his own dick on twitter
if anything he's proof that talent, skill and hard work do not pay off for shit in visual arts.
The thing about criticism/community is that it's a bunch of shit you gotta deal with that is always going to be a distraction. But everyone wants your attention if you're good, and if you're bad they want to tell you, but none of it really matters until some sperg decides to cause you shit because you didn't pay attention to his one tweet. It's a constant struggle with the fact that the biggest selling point of being an artist is getting to mostly work on your own, ruined by the fact that you have to 'get out there' and sell your talent to an audience. At that point you're basically back to working retail, putting on a smile even when you feel like shit, and not slapping every asshole that mouths off to you even if they deserve it.
Is this the guy with the creepy crush on Ashly Burch?
I'm pretty sure that max gilardi (AKA hotdiggitydemon AKA horseshow.mov/brain dump) is blacklisted.
>literally who webcomic artists
>any chance at mainstream
Yea Forums is truly clueless about the industry
Yes. When she tweeted that she was taking self-defense lessons he went on a hilarious rant about how he is a grandmaster in krav maga and shaolin ninjutsu and wrote several expert blog posts on martial arts. His amputee waifu in the comic is clearly modeled after ashly burch, he's a fucking idiot on top of being a creep but hey, if you claim you're the shit hard enough on social media turns out that people will actually believe you and give you money
The fear of becoming popular alone sounds stressful as shit.
Is PK still state hopping, or did she and her boyfriends/dog-fucking buddies make it to Canada?
Diaz probably would've fit the mold at current Marvel if he wasn't such a creeper. Dobson had a Disney connection at some point but shat it away for whatever reason. Woods (formerly Herring) has gotten two doujinshi published and worked with the Steven Universe crew. She's got several connections in the mainstream, or at least had them.
The person that provided the chat logs refused to cooperate with the police IIRC and everything just sort of fizzled out. Can't force people to cooperate with an investigation.
PK is actually doing better now than ever IIRC, they flipped their house for double what they paid for it, stabilized their patreons and bought a new place with like $100k to spare.
I'm glad , i hated when his style was DC's house style
Didn't Hussie make millions though? I don't think he cares about making it in the comic industry anymore.
Hussie definitely just failed himself more than the market.
It's mostly just funny because he was such a hardcore company man before. After Johns left GL and EVS stayed on he gave some interview where he said " People don't wear Geoff Johns shirts, they wear Green Lantern shirts" arguing the character was more important to the majority of readers than who was working on it
Thing is those guys are always the ones with nothing to do when they burn bridges or fall out of style.
Its reasonable that you just wanted to make fun of him some more, but let's be real; he's never been close to having a shot.
consider he made like 4k+ at his peak on patreon while barely update his shit
I could say he probably get lot of commission or other stuff to do
Tiarawhy.
Exactly
I want to make at least one thing but I don't want to be popular
honestly you're better off working as a webcomic artist than at the Big 2
I want to make about 800 to 1000 bucks a month so I don't have to work at McDonalds in my 30s, but that's fucking impossible because I don't draw porn or anime.
Too true, man.
Just make the one thing and then fake your death.
>but that's fucking impossible because I don't draw porn or anime.
Yet. You don't draw porn or anime YET.
It's more about brand than it is about just putting out art.
I don't understand. They're at a conference, she's dressed as power girl, is the message that you should ask before taking an ass pic of a scantily costumed actress?
People really need to stop caring about dobson. He's a literally who run of the mill internet retard who's mediocre at art, and there's nothing interesting or funny about him besides that he drew inflation porn.
He only ever became a thing on Yea Forums because he was popular on deviantart for a time. Outside of that there's literally no reason to care about him.
He didn't really "blow" his chance. It's that he wasn't legally a US resident, so the minute the industry offered him a job, ICE had some inconvenient questions.
Why does getting a art job sound so stressful? I just want to draw and get paid for it.
Because your work is entirely reliant on a fickle audience. You could be in the spotlight one day and then the next few months you're struggling to even get one piece to get a decent amount of attention. Even if you're not trying to out draw or be better than anyone, you're in a constant state of competition, trying to make yourself stand out in an ocean of people trying to do the same thing you are.
That's why artists charge so much for commissions, and why many porn artists use paywalls: it's the least stable job on earth, and they need to wring the customers dry if they want to have a roof over their head
>least stable job on earth
Try acting mate. Though they're very close.
>making fun of Luna
She's actually quite based, desu
When was the last time a successful artist made successful actor money though? I can only think of David Choe.
as much as the 5k sounds like a lot, he would still have to constantly sell out morally and make sure not to step on eggshells to maintain that and that's never worth it
>momy wook at my epic edit!!!11eleven!
As a general rule, you should probably ask before taking a picture of anyone in general.
The message is Dobson is such a defender for women, and ladies, has he mentioned he's single?
>Is he actually prolific enough to have a mainstream chance? I know he gets some attention, but did he ever really get out there enough with pure work to be noticed?
He did... but that was like a decade ago. For a while there if you wanted anything transhumanism, his was the go-to media on the internet.
Then he started updating once per million years, blew his kickstarter, started making social media commentary. If you think about it - he managed to get his patreon up to about 5.5k per month, long after his peak. That's definitely in the higher tiers. Not everyone is a Weinersmith or Jacques.
People still talk about Dobson because he is such an exquisite example of someone who has absolutely no self awareness. He's one of the best examples to point at when people ask what not to do as an artist. He's one of the few people who were given a million chances to stay in ANYONE'S good graces, and blew every single one of them, and now he has virtually no one.
There are so few example of people like that who have such public online lives, so in absence of a better figure to point at, Dobson is the go-to "this is what happens when you fuck up" cautionary tale.
>he would still have to constantly sell out morally and make sure not to step on eggshells to maintain that and that's never worth it
He was literally already doing these things before his patreon though
EVS and Chuck Dixon still get hired by DC.
DC has more or less said after the "kill yourself' thing they have no intention of hiring him again.
>The most well-known thing he ever did was shove both feet into his mouth and make a fool of himself in front of the professional comics industry.
Well, that and stabbing his own hand.
Different guy, that was Jeph Jacques
No, there's tons of people just like him, he's just the one Yea Forums's most familiar with.
He's not even that bad at art. He's improved .0001% since he's started, but he's still more mediocre than anything
Scott Ramsoomair, AKA VG Cats guy. He had the internet eating out of the palm of his hand in an era where most webcomic art was fucking TRASH, and he let it all slide through his fingers out of sheer fucking laziness. And then he got big again with a Pokemon comic that he seemed dedicated to updating regularly, and he let that slip away too. Now he just draws shitty porn of his characters well after his style is past the point of anyone wanting to see that.
If ever there were a warning about the dangers of sloth, it's Scott Ramsoomair's career.
>Dobson had a Disney connection at some point but shat it away for whatever reason
literally because he REFUSES to take criticism. he'd turn down disney rather than work on his art.
I want to say Pan-Pizza for sleeping through his Nick pitch
That actually happened?
Then again, Pan knows a lot of industry people. I think he might just be a shitter with his artwork, because he could definitely get in some gruntwork inbetweener position for SOMEBODY's show if he really wanted to.
I made a YouTube video that's gotten popular amongst friends and is steadily growing in views due to them sharing it on their social medias. It's gotten a lot of positive feedback but I feel stressed as shit working on this next video. I burned myself out on the first one but managed to finish it and now I feel like I'm just doing what I think is "right", but I seemed to have lost my flow and passion for making it. I'd love to make it a career, but if making 1 video burns me out so much I don't think I'll make it...
I can't say he blew his mainstream chances when he never had one to begin with. He keeps an active supply of mentions of making pornography of his ugly as shit fetishistic based characters for the world to see. Also, aren't three of his main character's almost sole personality trait that they are really annoying and speak in a nasally bitchy voice?Who the fuck would like his pitch?
His style IS unique, but so was The Problem Solverz. He should stay with comics and never touch anything visual ever.
I also can't say he is worse for it. He does have a girlfriend now and according to her he has been getting his shit together. Couldn't say, I don't follow much aside from his sporadic original content videos.
I watch pan's videos regularly and even used to listen to the podcast, and even I can tell you that LOKI IRL sucks.
Didn't he used to whine about he wasn't a furry?
looks nice, what is it and what's the story behind it
>He should stay with comics and never touch anything visual ever.
>never touch anything visual
>stay with comics
I dunno, he is kinda like a Garfield of lolcows. Always reliable to deliver stupid shit, even when it's not grand or anything.
Hussie was a published artist before homestuck though
>make sure not to step on eggshells to maintain that
except he constantly does, like calling Will Eisner a "mediocre white man" who didn't deserve his success, get called out because Eisner was a Jew, then saying he actually meant Jack Kirby, get told that Kirby was a Jew too, at which point he deleted the tweets and everyone forgot. He constantly talks shit or says something stupid and when it backfires he just deletes the tweets.
Then he just keeps saying "I'm the best" and people love him. He promised to make regular updates on the comic and he still publishes like 2 pages a year and people still give him money. It's fucking insane, he's worse than Dobson but for some reason he's successful.
i wanna get into the industry but i don't have any talent or skill for it, i'm more of an writer/director, i got dozens of stories to tell and characters to create but i just don't have what it takes, can someone help
He's also a massive chode.
What does it take for someone to really blow their mainstream chances? Seems like people get away with a lot of shit these days, like drawing lewd things and sperging about politics.
>update somewhat regularly
>big enough audience
>still no support
I don't know what I should do, should I just keep working or should I just laze out since I'm not getting much out of it. I really don't know how to shill my stuff.
Does going Mainstream matter when you can make 500k with kickstater?
>he's still more mediocre than anything
That’s more damning than anything you can say about a bad artist. With a bad artist, you can point out the poor anatomy, design flaws, bad shading, etc. But with Dobson’s style, all you need is a basic understanding of anatomy and faces. It’s the type of style that is the utter definition of passable, being hard to fuck up but also incredibly limiting in it’s application. There is nothing more harmful for anyone, artist or not, than to be unable to improve and too afraid to go beyond your comfort zone. That’s what makes us hate Dobson:
He’s a fucking sniveling coward.
try havin no audience
at the same time i only update by the month and even then it's been over two. I'm trying to fit the rest of the arc into one chapter.
He'd only published one book prior to Homestuck (Whistles, Book 1: The Starlight Calliope, which was to be the first in a series of physical compilations of his then-ongoing webcomic Whistles; the webcomic was abandoned shortly afterwards, and no more books were published). To my knowledge it didn't sell all that well.
His only other publications have been explicitly MSPA-related, starting with Problem Sleuth books in 2010.
Has he delivered?
put up a patreon and make appeals via social media
maybe occasionally draw bonus art for backers to make them feel like paying you is worth it
He set out the copies of his book if that is what your asking,
the promises about updating more often and hiring a assistant... not so much.
Does he need to?
We have no idea how much money Hussie has. He's a private citizen, and What Pumpkin, LLC isn't publicly traded. He's clearly made enough scratch off it not to need a proper job, but then by his own admission he never in his life worked one before starting Homestuck either. He went to Temple, got a degree in CS, and then apparently spent the next decade-ish dicking around with his friends online and drawing ironic webcomics. His dad owned a couple lucrative patents and I guess he was okay with his son being a deadbeat.
Also I just looked some stuff about What Pumpkin up because I was curious if they still existed, and I found something interesting. They filed for the Hauntswitch (the ostensible followup to Hiveswap) trademark twice. The first time was in 2017 and it was declared abandoned in 2018. They filed it again this January. So apparently they still believe they're working on it.
God I love Meredith Gran
Chuck Dixon never actually did anything publicly stupid like that though, right? I've never seen him say anything on social media, so I almost just assume he wants to write his own stuff these days. I could be wrong.
I guess other guys who lost their chance was the guy who snuck anti-semitic stuff into his first X-Men gig. Imagine getting to draw an X-Men book, basically the road to stardom for tons of artists before you, and throwing it away because "DA JEWS!"
Yes. This is the kind of shit that scares people away from kickstarter.
Remember that kickstarter that was basically just a cooler with powerbank attached that got millions in funds and couldn't even bother to shit out a prototype?
Besides looking like he's waiting for me to finish my turn in Yugioh, who is this?
Guy who wrote sabrina online. Could've legit worked for Pixar or something but decided to draw porn instead.
I already do that but they don't react to any links. I don't know what are the shilling tactics
So he followed his dreams? Good for him.
>who is this
>google
>pony porn
>exclusively animates on the Amiga
interesting choice, not profitable, but interesting.
>tfw Octopus Pie is my favorite webcomic but no one ever talks about it here
Gran is fucking good though
Oh man, out of all of them I genuinely thought VG cats was going to be one of the big ones to make it. Then he just stopped uploading and started complaining...
...shit got old quick.
Oh shit, yeah. If he road the momentum, I'm sure I'd see cringy VG cats merch all over the place.
It is, you never know if the people who are your fans admires you for your work or if they want your blood.
Thread title was "artists who blew their mainstream chances." I assign no judgement value.
Just spam it here, eventually anons will either like and spam it or hate you and talk about you non stop. See this thread for example
Very much so, which surprisingly makes me immensely sad.
Chuck Dixon for some asinine reason thought it'd be a good idea to work with Theodore "Breivik is a saint" Beale for his Alt Hero crap
Dobson isn't single. He has a girlfriend.
Are you telling me Dobson has a gf and I'm over here jerking off into an old tennis shoe?
Yes, I'm sorry you had to find out this way.
Probably for the best all things considered.
Pictures for sad children was probably too dark to ever get real mainstream popular, but the author would probably have a similar comfortable cult status to achewood if they hadn't flamed out.
Worst thing is, I don't doubt for a second that you do jerk into an old tennis shoe.
Do you use a continental grip?
Not that guy, but what's that?
I'm not made out of new tennis shoe money!
Ah, an user with some class!
it's a way of holding a co-ehrm a racket
I wasn't in USA so I'd need an H1B work visa to go there, hence the problem. JR is a class act and still messages me sometimes though, real cool guy
I'll fite you!
Oh hey, wat up. That’s cool. Probably a larper, but fuck it.
I lurk here at times too.
Well for what it’s worth, your abilities brought me a bit of mirth which is a pretty nice set of skills to have. Thanks.
Sweet. I hope these bun things entertain a lot of people as I've been kinda juggling the story for them for over a year now. It's pretty much a problem of how the shorts play out.
Like 30seconds to 1-2 minute long shorts, or if instead more character in depth driven 3-5 minute long ones. I still dont haven answer so i'm just drawing a bunch of storyboards and seeing what sticks.
is this loss
you should submit your demo reels to some foreign studios that arent in america. places like, i dunno, england or australia or canada or something. they all need animators as well.
Maybe
Yea true, but at the same time I'm also pretty happy doing what I am right now in terms of working online with my friends (on a game and this bun short). If the bun shorts are entertaining enough and get traction on youtube I can ask my contact at frederator to pitch it around themselves and see if anyone has any interest (and/or make a game out of it later).
and really, honestly, use another handle for online stuff because even though some places are sort of lax about porn stuff, it's just one thing that might improve your chances
Honestly with situations like this it's honestly worth wondering if going mainstream is even necessary or worth the trouble. It seems much better and easier now more than ever to just self employ and y'know...make your own shit. It might not be on TV or in comic book stores, but most people don't own the former and I haven't been into the latter in like 4 years.
would the same issues arise with Federator? I dunno if they're limited to America
I will never forget the moment of surreal feeling seeing familiar regional politics (re: from a region too meh for anyone to care about unless something extraordinary happens) incorporated into popular American fiction.
I bet the Indonesian artist foolishly though X-Men's "mutants among us" premise was just random shit and not without any sociopolitical inspiration (world history education is pretty shitty in S. E Asia) which is why he thought it would be "genius" to add Ahok's case in without irony...
Honestly though, I have a number of friends in california who work in the industry, and a lot ofthem work paycheck to paycheck due to cost of living (and uncertainty in the job market).
If anything there are more jobs/work/money to make online then there is working over there (but if you want to make it as like a show runner then yeah I understand that you'd be in cali).
Maybe, maybe not we'll see. I'm perfectly happy just being able to make it how I want.
tiara why is making the bunnny cartoon?
Yep.
Originally I had them live in this kind of place but I felt it might be too generic, so instead they are gonna live on the carrot ship in more like a capsule hotel environment (and being more workers and the comedy of that).
And the place.
i'd seen pics for this bun show around but didnt know you were tiara why
looking forward to it even more now. hope it gets picked up
hey, we're all rootin for you man. i wish you the best and I really hope you keep doing what you love, because that's living the dream.
do you mind if i ask you a couple of questions about your animating ventures? feel free to skip any you dont want to answer
1. how long have you been in the animation game? was newgrounds the start?
2. do you have any advice or tutorials for animation that worked for you?
3. favorite food
4. which work are you most proud of, and which one do you think was the toughest?
yo
Yeah, but i am having a lot of fun just world building either way. Doing an OC world is a lot harder/interesting than I expected.
Sine 2012, I was bored in college and got into horses and there was a spooky story and halloween in 2 months, so I got a copy of flash from our colleges software suit and started to animate (I had no idea how to draw/animate back then, never had any art classes).
2: For a long time I animated poorly cause I didnt bother learning basics. You really have to or it will always look amateurish.
I recommend animators survival guide as a good start as well as learning storyboarding/perspective/staging/etc. Also I use toonboom harmony only now, you wont get that line quality in flash.
3. Sushi for sure.
4. I think i'm most proud of the ice cream short and the chris parnel thing I did a commission for (not posted on my channel).
I still like my old videos too however, it's really funny to see kids coming back to videos they saw on my channel and didn't understan what they were seeing and then coming back 5-7 years later and "getting" it. I got a ton of comments like that now.
also
>searching "shmorky comic" also pulls up stonetoss comics
lel
It was so good at the start, I used to wait for every update. He just got infested with the extreme SJW virus and it rotted his brain.
Hey user, I'm here to make you feel better: Dobson's gf is a horribly ugly landwhale, so you wouldn't be able to jerk it to her anyway. Yes, she's nice, patient and very forgiving (like with that famous DA journal where she invited him to spend hanukkah with her Jewish family and he was an asshole passively-aggressively missing traditional christmas), but goshdarn is she bad looking.
I feel bad for her. Imagine being so low you think dobson is the best you can do.
thanks for the answers! again, good luck in your ventures!
the page where eve throws her drink at park got a lot of discussion here at the time
it was very angry discussion but discussion nonetheless
>Yes, she's nice, patient and very forgiving (like with that famous DA journal where she invited him to spend hanukkah with her Jewish family and he was an asshole passively-aggressively missing traditional christmas), but goshdarn is she bad looking.
Oh well, if she can put up with him, she's a saint. Ugly or not, everyone needs someone who puts up with their shit.
I know this old shoe will never abandon me.
Ethan hasn't worked for DC since his final issue on Hal and Pals in 2017. You might be thinking of reprints in those 100 page books.
I've actually asked the guy a few questions for user's sake.
Basically he's wholely uninteresting. He loves Amiga but uses normal modern hardware, he's never had a blood fued with another artist, and his porn site has been doing fine since forever. The limelight just quietly left him behind.
I guess he looked at what he made with the site and how muvh actual animators make and decided to stick with the smut racket.
Ah, there is one thing, He said he made a pilot for WB called 'geoforce' but I could never find anything on it. Thats a bit of a mystery for a guy who actually seems pretty intent on making everything preserved on the internet.
Make waifuable sexy characters.
It worked for the monster musume guy.
She looks cute in a "just rolled out of bed" way.
But she makes webcomics so she's probably a feminist dyke.
I remember your posts! Dont give up on your dreams!
Gotta be smart with that one. You can't just draw a "hot girl" and say she's a character, all the monster girls have at least basic personalities. That way it's not just an obvious, empty attempt to get readers. If you want to see some of the worst things you can do with making a webcomic come off as a cheap get rich quick scheme, look up Electronic Tigers by Mike S. Miller. He famously tried to shill Oxygen Water to his readers.
Miller used to actually work for DC, but not sure if he left on good terms or not. He's done some online stupidity that will probably mean he can't go back though, so I guess he fits with the thread.
I believe he replied to that rumor a while back. He said he doesn't exclusively use the Amiga and that wasn't why he didn't get the job. He pitched for a show IIRC but the network just ultimately turned it down and he went back to his comics. It wasn't as interesting as the gossip made it out to be.
>You can't just draw a "hot girl" and say she's a character, all the monster girls have at least basic personalities.
That's half of what makes them waifuable, user.
Look at this cow. This cow would not be nearly as likable if she wasn't feisty and easily embarrassed.
Have you been reading the reruns? It's a daily page from the very start of the comic but she puts commentary on each page with hindsight notes on her trying new art techniques, the cultural context of the time, abandoned plotlines and character insights.
I love it so much, brings a whole new layer of enjoyment to an already great comic. Plus the nostalgia of reliving following webcomics
>Look at this cow. This cow would not be nearly as likable if she wasn't feisty and easily embarrassed.
Exactly. A waifu isn't just something to look at. You have to imagine that LIFE with her.
Well those are both things I'd prefer to not look ever again in my life so that's appropriate
I know this is bad form, but name? I enjoy catching up on cringe
Thanks
Clearly, user, the struggling webcomic artist must make a comic about waifuable cowgirls with various personality archetypes.
Are you listening, fucker?
Aaron Diaz
You won't find anything on his feed though, he deletes all the shit he says
Ah, damn. At least I know. One dickless journo might have had the balls to wrote an article
Does Piro of Megatokyo count?
I wish i could sleep with you. You are great. Keep it up saw you on /ic/ from time to time. And never forget to deliver porn bunnys
Shad never had a chance at the mainstream in the first place.
I really don't like his take on detail-dense artwork. With Stjepan Sejic, there's a much nicer balance between detail and emptiness, but with EVS it's like the balance never existed. Maybe it's the colorist, who knows.
Based
she broke up with him a long time ago
It's either that or becoming a political suck up.
Homestuck has always homesucked
She didn't, he just stopped writing about her anywhere at her request.
t. Follows EDF thread where there's a stalker that posted their private photos from some family party a couple months ago.
Was expecting this thread to be about that guy. The funniest thing is that he was sneaking that into books because he was angry about a Christian politician, and he'd have continued to get away with that if he hadn't started adding anti-Semitic stuff for no reason.
bold words coming from a mediocre white man
Whistles sold badly that eventually the store started giving it away for just the shipping costs. No one wanted it, and it's only remembered because the author of Problem Sleuth/Homestuck made it.
Hussie's only remotely mainstream work is Homestuck, and even that is only getting published nowadays because he tricked Viz into thinking he still had a big fanbase.
Side note: is criticising verses from the q'ran for their anti-semitic content islamophobic?
Polite sage for off-topic
>Your shitty doodles managed to get you a story boarding job in one of the most popular cartoon of the time
>Get fucking “black listed” because you called your boss abusive on tumblr over some retarded noncanon ship
>No one wants to work with you because of how mentally unstable you are
>On the verge of homelessness because you can’t pay rent anymore
What an absolute fucktard lmao
It's less mental instability and more a complete lack of professionalism. Also it turning out you were dating a minor and abusing the fuck out of her psychologically.
>He loves Amiga but uses normal modern hardware
IIRC he made the entirety of Sabrina online on the Amiga. As someone who spent his childhood on the Amiga 500, I think that's absolutely based.
Oh yeah, MiraculousTang, I remember her specifically for her homestuck comics.
She was nice though, hope she’s doing fine and recovering from the fuckfest that was Zuke.
How embarrassing.
Has Shad ever attempted getting into the mainstream? As far as I know, he's always been comfortable in the niche he's carved out as a cult smut artist. I guess he's gained decent notoreity within the drawn smut world, which is a sort of mainstream success in that context.
Based Rainmaker making it rain facts
This looks dope
She´s doing better I think
I had a possible intro mockup from a while back. The entire writing changed since but I still wanna keep the idea that the clones are grown in the ground and their ears just stick out.
Thats not true, you can laugh at him, his horrible opinions and personality
It looks like a really cute show Tiara. Best of luck with the project
That is some really smooth animation to say it came out of a literal toaster by today's standards.
had no idea they dated each other, i used to follow them both
I follow her on twitter and she's remarkably less outspoken and heavy handed about things. More like the awkward zombie girl.
>Look at this cow
Look at her now
I don't think I ever saw the full comic, just the loss edit, and the original is actually funnier.
That's... that's actually not a bad punchline? It sets you up to make you think it's gonna be typical generic 'extreme violence on a strawman" comic, but Dobson is just a bit too clever and self-aware for that - it cuts away, and the 911 thing just highlights the absurdity and fakeness of the situation, reminding the reader that yeah, it's just a fantasy and he's aware of that. That's like... almost meta. That's not bad.
God, Dobson pisses me off so much. The dude has so much raw potential, he's often just a few inches shy of being really good... and he just ABSOLUTELY squanders it all on raw fucking laziness and being an egotistic weirdo. If he kept working at his art and shut his attitude from that point in mid-2000s when he was somewhat popular, the dude would absolutely be a respected industry professional by now, with his own decent-selling Image series or a job at an animation studio.
Yeah, he's definitely the premier entry in this thread. Wasted potential pisses me off so much, god.
I get not knowing Kirby was Jewish (I didn't know that for a while), but Eisner? Did he like... never read Contract with God? Like, the fact that he was Jewish is one of the best known facts about him, what the fuck.
She has a nice rack.
That sentiment would've made sense if the guy who wrote Dinosaur Comics wasn't now a Marvel writer.
And Dresden Codak was for a while one of the most popular comics online (despite its update schedule).
>I am superior to horsefuckers
You're here aren't you
Are you seriously fucking unable to even draw a simple swastika? That fact alone is WAY funnier than your edgelord edit, desu.
She really got blacklisted? Oh my fuck
Okay. She's knocked up right now.
absolutely based but he never even tried to mainstream
Shut up, Dobson.
Oyakado is a saint but I hate he keeps ignorning Papi
talk about an inflated ego.
>not knowing about the spaztika
No mention of this guy yet?
He told his story on sleepycast. He used shadbase as an online portfolio for college, got accepted with scholarships. His site was getting popular on its own merits, so he uploaded some of his violent smut, thinking the college would never see it.
Then he immediately got kicked out of school and almost arrested.
Since then he made his entire living off smut and never looked back.
The newgrounds regulars do give him a ton of work doing backgrounds, which he is happy to do. I think he is even working with Behemoth on Nightmare Cops right now.
Not necessarily mainstream, but he definitely getting more professional work than most smut artists. Hell, his reputation alone is such that I am surprised some edgy rock band hasnt commissioned him for a music video. He is pretty much internet Marilyn Manson.
I hated finding out he has a youtube, and hearing him. Because then the whole "rockstar" persona fell away, and I realized he's just a whiny faggot. Like, there's nothing really there, but he found a way to keep going on and not get arrested for clearly drawing real children.
>His site was getting popular on its own merits, so he uploaded some of his violent smut, thinking the college would never see it.
He gotta be retarded.
who?
Even he admits that was the dumbest thing he had ever done. In the same sleepycast he admits that he had shit grades in school.
So yeah isnt very bright. He did thrive in the military though.
The thing a lot of young artists are not aware of is that making deadlines is just as important as the quality of the work itself. It is very important to have a workflow set up so you can make art on a consistant regular basis. That is a lot of where the stress comes from, because so many young artists want to spend too much time on specific drawings to really impress people and you cant work that way. In order to make deadlines you have to establish a point where any drawing must be done by a certain point and you have to move onto the next drawing in order to make a deadlines where X many drawings are required to be completed.
Doesn't make him any less of any overstuffed, quasi-intellectual cunt.
>webcomic writers and artists never get hired by publishers
Based retard
Weber was the guy who talked to EZ PZ, right?
Don't forget KC Green getting Graveyard Quest published by Oni Press and working on several comics.
I've said it once and I'll say it again: Mike S. Miller is the IRL version of Mac from It's Always Sunny.
Because you're a crybaby who doesn't want to deal with how the adult world works and want to cling to childish notions that you really should have let go of years ago.
He deserve to go to jail for what he did to edd the day he died, the little bitch
Oh fuck, I think I saw a piece of animation from geoforce on youtube, like back in 2009 I want to say, the really early days
Can't seem to find it now. Huh.
Being a writer for cartoons and a writer for comics is a completely different journey altogether, but either way you won't have an easy time if you can't draw
Yeah but all the internet artists with brands either started out super early or were able to corner a porn niche before anybody else
The artist never updates and instead bitches on twitter 24/7
I see what you did there
She got married to a basedboi four years ago
I really hope this comic was ironic
In that case, NEVER look him up. Just live your life in bliss.
I doubt any of that shit in those videos are real. It's way too sensationists to be believable and it's clear it's a autist making fanfiction about random artists
You need to be friends with or rub elbows with people already in the industry. Good luck doing that because none of them will even look in your general direction if you don't have at least 5k twitter followers. Basically you need to be popular to become even more popular.
Are you seriously fucking unable to perceive that the swastika get's worse by the panel? A detail like that is obviously intentional, desu.
A good snake oil salesman can make incredible amounts of money off hapless dupes.
>*mic drop*
pics
>Criticism, haha what's that? I have MONEY
Worse, he's not even embarrassed about his poor panel layouts and terrible work ethic
>Kazerad
for doing a hussie and never updating or just sticking to 1 thing.
>Weaver
creator of rubyquest who just stopped making fun things after the big boost
> andrew hussie
after the shitstorm that is the ending.
>egoraptor
game grumps
>newgrounds artist and animators like me who never wanted to post and get a boost
fuck you. send me back
I'm probably showing my age but I feel like Jhonen Vasquez and Roman Dirge qualify.
For Vasquez, I always felt like Invader Zim should have been the beginning for him. By the sound of it, though, he basically couldn't handle the pressures of working for a big company, then burned all of his bridges at Nickelodeon to boot.
Roman Dirge, on the other hand, never even made it that far, so maybe he didn't exactly "blow it." Last I heard he was working as waiter though...
The Dr. McNinja guy writes for Marvel.
I think the thing with Vasquez is that he could probably go mainstream anytime he wanted, but yeah... he doesn't like it. so he's trying to find the balance between making stupid stuff, letting people see, and then never having to look at those people ever.
Which is the true, impossible dream.
I thought it was some other girl he stalked. Not Ashley Burch, just someone who was near indistinguishable from her.
Will he ever get his shit together?
Vasquez didn't want to be mainstream and hates the fanbase his one cartoon spawned
I remember being in High School during the early-mid 2000s and everyone telling me to check out VG Cats. I went to the website the exact time Scott temporarily posted an issue where Leo is eating out Aeris while the demon character wipes the viewer's memory MIB-style.
Everyone thought I was full of shit or found Rule 34 by accident. I think he said some bullshit a few years later about it being done by a Norweigan fan when it was clearly him. Thanks for making my first webcomic experience awkward, Scott.
Based
Cringe
>insufficient supply lines
>inside their own country
>hundreds of miles away from any enemy combatants
>with plenty of food from captured agricultural regions
>after multiple nazis sepcifically stated their goal was to wipe jews from the face of the earth
/pol/tards are delusional
Wait, that wasn't R34?
I thought we were talking about people who had a chance to begin with? Even ignoring the /pol/ shit, that comic looks like trash.
The entire strip is It'sOKtoberacist.jpg
lol
define mainstream
well WOULD you hire her? its not a real black list more of a "why would anyone with a brain do that again?"
Jasonafex looks like THAT?
I'm starting to think having a harem of dicksuckers for your furry art isn't all it's cut out to be.
wow they sure changed.
You thought he was some lizardman?
the worst part its the bikini cowboy thing was lame, printing FOR THE FIRST TIME an old work with such limited appeal.
INSTEAD of selling the idea of making a new volume and shilling like crazy.
Lmao no, he looks even less human than my expectations. Well, that's mean, but I figured he looked different. I imagined more hair.
Become a drawfag. See what happens.
you are small time.
observe.
amazing how drawing fugly monsters sort of shaped like recognisable cartoon characters came back to bite her. that finn drawing was such a piece of shit.
hell, i was expecting people NOT to cry foul of that "thicklipped black man" finn drawing because of the tumblr crowd being such hypocrites, but I guess they did make a stink in the end.
what the fuck
This is a good answer, because he actually did work for Dark Horse comics at one point. As far as I'm aware, Sinfest is his only job atm.
He has been trying to push Sinfest to be syndicated since his college days in like 1994.
1994.
Let that sink in.
Hey there cham...
What the fuck
well that's sure as fuck not happening now.
That's literally when I was born.
They way things are going, it has a better chance now than ever before.
she literally got a job on another show right after getting fired from SU you retarded faggot.
and you're literally a child
Again, there's a million people just like him. Being a retarded douchebag with shitty opinions isn't an unusual thing
I hate lolcows who aren't actually lolcows but are really just popular people who happen to be assholes. The game grumps dude is the same way; if they weren't already popular literally nobody would give a shit.
I don't even have a tablet
>I don't know what I should do, should I just keep working or should I just laze out since I'm not getting much out of it. I really don't know how to shill my stuff.
How big is a "big enough audience"? The problem could be that it's not big enough, or it could be that you're not giving them sufficient ways or incentive to support you.
Does your comic have a name
You're supposed to say: "homosuck is shit"
>Weaver
Can you really launch a career off of making anonymous drawings on a Japanese image board? I like the guy but I never really thought he had any mainstream chances to speak of.
Marilyn Manson has a positive message behind his work. Shadman...doesn't. Manson has proved many times over that he's a reasonable person with an inclination toward surreality. Shadman...hasn't. Manson has the keys to the world and Shadman...he just doesn't.
Not trying to shit on Shad(I like some of his work), but the similarities the two share are pretty miniscule.
plague just talked about him on a podcast, had people who wanted to follow him and a tumblr that boomed when rubyquest got big with people. it was a jumping point and the problem was he used it but sealed himself in one thread and tumblr
I don't blame him
Pretty sure Manson can legally officiate a marriage, as he's a Satanic Priest. He was also on an episode of Clone High.
Christ, that guy fucked up bad.
The message is that Dobson wants to kill people, but despite his avatar being a fucking bear, he needs to use actual tools to do his deed.
I don't really like his style, it's a bit too 90's for my tastes.
So nothing of value was lost.
>abloo bloo bloo no u
Grow up, dumb NEET
>Because your work is entirely reliant on a fickle audience. You could be in the spotlight one day and then the next few months you're struggling to even get one piece to get a decent amount of attention. Even if you're not trying to out draw or be better than anyone, you're in a constant state of competition, trying to make yourself stand out in an ocean of people trying to do the same thing you are.
That's only how it works if you're doing really generic Garfield-tier stuff. Being an artist is miserable and risky if you're competing for the mythical "mainstream attention", but it's pretty easy and comfortable if you build a strong niche audience who loves your work.
A lot of artists intentionally avoid the mainstream game because niche audiences are more fun to work with and oftentimes better paying. Even if you ignore the 99% of artists who try and fail to pursue "mainstream fame", those who succeed are usually working for a big company that is giving them a tiny cut of the proceeds.
>almost arrested.
is this switz college or US college?
IIRC this was outside of the US but having drawn loli/shot hentai in your ISP browsing history is definitely illegal in several US states, especially if it's based on existing kids.
Their theory is that the allies bombed the shit out of their interior supply lines, cutting off concentration camps from food and medicinal supplies relatively late into the war (1944-45). After that, according to revisionists, it was mostly disease that killed inmates.
>inb4 shut up /pol/tard
>especially if it's based on existing kids.
I think that's the line where things get illegal most everywhere in the states. I've seen people present their proof that he did some pics based on specific children... and yeah. You don't do that, because THAT CHILD EXISTS.
sauce? (yes I reverse image searched)
You should always ask to take a picture of someone. As for that picture: there was a huge amount of like fake ass outrage about like women being swarmed and attacked at cons that every white knight jumped on at during that CURRENT YEAR. That was dobson's sorry attempt at scoring some coochie points
Dobson is a wonderful example of how not to behave as an artist. He is a titanic. A disaster warning to everyone out there.
A "strong niche audience" is just as ephemeral as it basically requires you to become a big fish in a small pond.
Strictly speaking in most cases the reference material would also need to be pornographic.
Of course that doesn't explain why the Nazis would be prioritizing food and medicinal supplies to concentration camps in their interiors rather than the front lines or why the death toll would be significantly different from the German civilian population.
>Dobson is a wonderful example of how not to behave
Was it in Wooli would figure it out?
Van only even set up a Patreon a few years ago while Bomango has been going for what, ten years? I don’t think he had a chance at mainstream success because I don’t think he was even aware of the possibility
>Strictly speaking in most cases the reference material would also need to be pornographic.
I'm pretty sure if someone wanted to go after him, he's been shown drawing from reference of specific children (down to details like their shoes and such) just doing all the normal stuff he draws. It would probably go through a few courts, just because the law hasn't really been tested in a high profile way for cases like this. But I doubt anyone cares enough at the moment, outside of here his biggest blip for regular people was the Waluigi thing he drew months ago.
Woolie will*
same. I uploaded a clip of some random thing I was watching & a few days later it has almost half a million views. I don't know how youtube works.
Ian jones was a webcomic author who worked on Venture Bros. Adventure time, helped produce Steven universe and now has his own show.
>Woolie never finished END OF THE WORLD in college
>missed his chance at the big time
Winner of thread.
Based as ever, Vasquez
in youtube podcast
>I don't know how youtube works.
You're not alone. Nobody knows. Well, I guess the Youtube staff knows.
>Well, I guess the Youtube staff knows.
They probably just make sure it has enough gas and isn't getting to hot.
>completely unable to hide her necrophilia and pedophilia
Poor Ashley Cope. Could have worked for Disney if she had been of age back in the 80's and 90's, but in today's "tweet everything no matter how bad idea it is to do so" atmosphere, she's basically committed career suicide.
I don't think he can even reveal his own name without getting blacklisted out of working in everything
So you're saying twitter was a mistake?
I think everyone agrees. Back in the day guys like John Byrne would have to make his own forum to openly spout off about wanting to fucking teens. Now everyone has a facebook and twitter, and will tell you every fucked up thought you never wanted to know they had.
Sort of
If someone quoted them, you criticise them for being antisemitic
Otherwise you just put on your blindfold and pretend they don't exist, like the Old Testament laws where everything results in stoning those still apply, according to Jesus himself.
It's not Twitter's fault that people use it to advertise their very worst qualities. Nobody did this when phones or the radio were invented.
it was, that dude is an idiot
You call a specific person on a phone.
You have to work at a station to be on the radio, legally.
Even Facebook is really only aimed at your friends.
Twitter is shouting from a rooftop about what you're eating or jacking off to. Videos and pictures optional.
>You have to work at a station to be on the radio, legally.
False. Amateur ham radio is a thing, you just have to stay off commercial frequencies.
Thanks
I'll be honest, I forgot ham radio was a thing. Shit, even when I was a kid in the 80s, that was niche nerd shit. Like, nerd nerd, super niche. I guess you could tell people you were jerking off to shit, but like 2 guys on Earth might ever care.
Amateur radio has licensing and takes effort. Twitter requires an email address.
FALSE. Stop talking about something you clearly know nothing about, and accept that modern culture is just degenerate as fuck.
>Oh well, if she can put up with him, she's a saint. Ugly or not, everyone needs someone who puts up with their shit.
Apparently his family is pretty wealthy so maybe shes just playing the long game
>tfw you stopped trying to be a creator because you're afraid any work you create will be misread or some shit and the woke or redpilled crowd is going to hunt you down for saying something wrong
How dare you! As an extreme centralist, I'm gonna hunt you down and FORCE you to make a political statement that pisses off both sides!
You can't blame social media for being a retard
He would have been blacklisteed for being un fucking-bearable to work alongside in no time at all.
Oh yeah, Jim lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines Lee was so much fucking better.
>Got BTFO trying to sound anti-white for weird tumblr street cred but wound up accidentally making two incredibly antisemitic statements instead because he didn't know the people he was talking about (Will Eisner and Jack Kirby) were actually Jewish
It's even funnier that he himself is a mediocre white man that went nowhere in the industry
No, but I didn't have to be aware how many people were retarded before they had the means to tell me. Even here I can pretend most of you are pretending.
I've noticed even the shittiest of artist still manage to gather some dedicated fans
Haha
Bear-able
>Disliking X means you like Y
Based retard
He's actually into the subject material. It's a well-known fantasy of his that he's been drawing for years before serialization.
The redpilled crowd will probably just meme you on Yea Forums, /cow/, or kiwifarms. All of which are places you shouldn't care about as a creator even if you roused their ire.
The woke crowd won't feel betrayed enough to go after you unless you start by catering to them.
>regular patreon at 260
>porn one at 2k
i guess he makes money off of shirts and other shit but damn, now he just does porn.
The third options is furries
He does sort of run the edge of Cautionary Tale. But really not many people act like him or would ever consider thinking about acting like him. It's just against human nature to be like that.
He really takes anything but genuine praise as absolute hatred in his direction. Half the time he is not physically capable of handling positive reactions from people and lashes out at them.
Haha, no. "Sonic comics writer/artist" is not a plus in your resume.
Why is it there is a never ending supply of pasty white nerds willing to on social media with the same
>Lol white guys amirite?
If Stonetoss weren't a nazi he wouldn't be anything. He can't draw, he lost all his money on Bitcoins, and half his comics are "ew gays". He never had a chance because he never had a clue
He is possibly the only man on earth that can actually put sonic art in his portfolio and have people accept it.
Him getting BTFO by Mary Cagle will always be great.
This just never makes sense to me. Why can't some people just try keeping their politics out of their work? Just have their own thoughts and opinions but don't put it in your work, I see no benefit to divebombing one's career like that for no reason other than
>I think a thing!
And then it's all gone. Especially in a job that has a near endless supply of others really REALLY wanting to take their position the second they have a chance at it.
>be me
>22 years old, live near Los Angeles
>drew a webcomic with a small but decent following
>made some musical animatics that have thousands of views
>have been in on/off contact with an industry person (most recently boarded for Close Enough)
>submitted a show pitch to Comedy Central for their Animation Program
How do I make the most out of my situation here, Yea Forums? What steps can I take to help myself?
>stonetoss was actually noda skywalker the whole time
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>he lost all his money on Bitcoins,
Jeez, that's pathetic.
>Why can't some people just try keeping their politics out of their work?
If he was writing the book, he could talk about his politics and an editor would have the option of shooting him down. But here he just said "I have a regional thing I want to shove in, the inker and editor aren't from my country, and NO ONE WILL NOTICE!" It's idiotic and it reflects badly on the rest of the team, for something they had no reasonable chance of catching.
Because why would they assume the guy would pull this shit on his big chance with an X-Men book?
>Jeez, that's pathetic.
user forgot the best bit. He did this comic at it's peak, right before it crashed
That was a magical thread where we learned Tats was a 90's cartoonist that burned bridges with everyone.
BUY HIGH AND SELL LOW
When did he buy BTC? I only made like 5 grand before it crashed but only put in $100 bucks. If I were a big brain I'd probably have run off with like 100 grand but I played pretty fast and loose with it since I was in the green the whole time. That was during the 2016/2017 bull run. If he was an old holder from 2009, he's still sitting pretty even after the crash from 25k.
>The redpilled crowd will probably just meme you on Yea Forums, /cow/, or kiwifarms
I see you have never been on twitter
Pathetic
He was a johnny-come-lately, one of the ones who got into it when it became mainstream
That's fucking GOOD. That's probably even better than Mike Miller's Evolv Oxygen Water shilling comics (which I can't find anymore).
Generally this is the main reason people are blacklisted. Not really politics or history, but being a complete fucking asshole that no one can stand being in a small room with.
I see no use for Twitter and don't visit it accordingly.
Oh, that's unfortunate. There's still money to be made in Crypto, but only if you're a neet with the time to watch the market at the moment.
To be fair. Only an autist would catch something like that just glancing through.
>I see no use for Twitter
I use it to follow a bunch of creators
Since it was so long ago I just checked it out online. It was R34 by some furry named Daniel "San" Renard. The style was close enough to fool a first-time viewer like me, I guess.
But yeah, "Along Comes Monday" happened to be the comic up on the front page during school hours in the UK all those years ago, hence the awkward memory of it.
>Comic about failed webcomic artists
>Not a LOL thread
>Not a SJW/pol/ thread
>Stonetoss still finds a way to get posted
>Almost always the same couple comics too
I'm 90% sure he has a program that auto posts here when it sees certain key words
Vasquez gets all the freelance work and does a lot of shit like storyboarding individual episodes of Warner and CN shows all the time. He stays in regular work. But the one thing he seems to not ever be able to accomplish is pitch another show to a network and be in charge of it again.
>To be fair. Only an autist would catch something like that just glancing through.
Even on slow months, any X-Men issue will sell tens of thousands of copies. It only takes one autist to say "you the artist slipped in some anti-semitism, right?", and that artist threw is career away for nothing.
Though I'm surprised he wasn't picked up by some indie company that either doesn't care or also just openly hates Jews. Maybe he'd still ask for a sizable page rate?
ABC Kids in Australia is always looking for stuff, particularly if you don't mind your stuff being re-dubbed with aussie accents
>some furry named Daniel "San" Renard.
Speaking of artists that could have made it big, that guy was pretty prolific in the 00s and some of his non-furry memes even caught on. I don't blame you for being confused, it looked damn close to Scott's style and him posting it on his website caused a LOT of rumors back then.
kek, that was a good one
Yeah, a lot of cartoonists are now in working in animation. I guess it's a sign of the times.
I'm a pretty good artist with some crazy ideas for a comic I wanna put out.
Any suggestions on how to get eyes on me so I don't release a comic literally no one sees?
I really wonder just what is it about twitter that makes people do this. They will blaringly post shit that is just career ending. And people old enough to damn well know better do it. Roseanne should know that if you post something racist and insulting, people will not like it. It's common cause-effect here that should be understood. But it still happens.
Some people are just stupid.
Now that tumblr is walking-dead it's an OK way to get artist's new work.
pay for youtuber shoutouts? Launch a kickstarter? graffiti your works around the city? Somehow get in touch with Timothy Zahn to write a good script? call yourself a feminist and say outrageous things on Twitter?
1. It seemed funny at the moment
2. It's right there on your phone
3. You've pressed tweet before your brain even says "wait, should say this public?"
shitpost on twitter
This makes for a real fear when ever drawing a single black person. you never know if someone somewhere is going to take some aspect and start shouting how you are making up caricatures.
Meanwhile if you do not have any in your portfolio you will be labeled as the same level of racist.
The best thing about this is that the dude doesn't look at all like Diaz and the girl doesn't look at all like Kim Ross and yet Diaz INSTANTLY knew this was about him and flipped the fuck out at Cagle over it
Have social media at least twitter !specifically for! the comic. Post updates and make sure it's easy to find and accessible
Shill yourself. Talk on popular forums and storytime on imageboards Don't go overboard and become annoying.
Start with a backlog so you can update frequently. People will keep up too date with pure shit if it updates fast.
VIZ clearly thought homestuck would be this huge money making property but act 6 was so bad, even diehard fans disappeared
That's a goal I can work towards, thanks user, that was actually really helpful.
I believe it's just picture related evolving because people are just more open with themselves on the internet now more then ever.
>yet Diaz INSTANTLY knew this was about him and flipped the fuck out at Cagle over it
He'd actually just released some shit that was pretty much exactly the third panel. It was Kimiko naked doing generic tech stuff
>This makes for a real fear when ever drawing a single black person
That's why you don't draw ONE black person. If you can't draw two that are clearly black AND different people, can you do that for any race?
>7000 backers
>500k monies
What the fuck? What Saudi royals did he scam into donating that much?
>There's still money to be made in Crypto, but only if you're a neet with the time to watch the market at the moment.
Yeah, but Stonetoss and a lot of these guys aren't buying now to sell later, they're full HODL types who believe that society will collapse and everyone will switch away from using dollars and use their sudokus instead. They'll HODL and HODL until quantum computers become a thing and suddenly bitcoin is hackable and worthless.
It is so hard getting that first bit of notice on twitter. People look to see how many followers you have before looking at what you got.
Just getting the first 200-300 is impossible at times.
please tell me this pic is newer and is older, cause otherwise OOF
bingo.
Is this an American thing? If I go to Disney World and take a picture of Goofy will he beat the shit out of me?
I only look if some idiot comes at me with their political opinion, like I give a fuck what a stranger has to say to be to begin with. If they have no followers, they're just some asshole's new account cause he got banned.
If you want to get some basic notice, draw an artist's OC or something. They tend to find it flattering, cause who wouldn't, and will at least repost that one image. Then people will check your feed sometimes, so have a few pics just up, without worry if they're liked yet.
Nope. He's one of those "I'm right because I'm right. And also you're wrong." His mind is a closed box: nothing gets in at all.
Not Goofy, but an upstanding citizen come to defend Goofy's honor from your evil male gaze
Goofy is paid for you to take pics of him. Are you seriously saying you don't know the difference between paid mascots and regular people?
No, because in that case he's literally there for you to take pictures of him. But if someone's going about their business, you should definitely ask before taking a picture.
Yes.
You don't fuck with the Goofster. That's how I lost my brother.
could have Yea Forums users support up and coming Yea Forums artists on twitter.
>they're just some asshole's new account cause he got banned.
This is true of any account made after 2015. If your account was made after 2015 then it is 100% an alt from a banned member. I do not give a shit what they have to post at that point.
I'm not touching Twitter with a 10-foot pole.
I always wonder if he's butthurt that undertale stole his thunder. Especially since he influenced it in the first place
i never thought i'd see sonic underboob and it actually do anything
Wanna see something cool? Here's page 25 of Dark Science, the page posted while that kickstarter was running
dresdencodak.com
Here's page 26
dresdencodak.com
Take a closer look at those URLs. Literally once the kickstarter ended Diaz went on a *three and a half month hiatus*. He only posted six pages in the entirety of 2013. And even though his Patreon was over the $4500 "A guaranteed Dresden Codak page every other week" for a while, he posted exactly five (5) pages last year, and only has one out so far for 2019.
because you're not drawing for yourself, but for someone else
Yeesh, this assholes make trusting kickstarter impossible...
She's dressed up as a slutty superhero. Seems to be fair game to me.
Plus I'm sure everyone at conventions has their phones out taking pictures and videos and uploading them to social media.
>could have Yea Forums users support up and coming Yea Forums artists on twitter.
docs.google.com
The /hyw/ thread has a shared google doc of all Yea Forums webcomic artists and their social medias
Follow me at @LOTHComic, etc., and you will see bad political statements so maybe I can't judge.
Most cosplayers are happy to pose for pictures if you ask them, but if you sneakily take photos without asking it's a little weird.
This was hilarious. But hate how Mary screeches whenever any character with tits appears in any sort of media she's reading. Then "redesigns" them to be as boring looking as possible.
>She's dressed up as a slutty superhero. Seems to be fair game to me.
What are you even saying, incel? You think Goofy is a slut?
Sounds like people won't want YOU taking pictures of them, because you're some whiny weirdo. It's normal to ASK to take a picture even if you assume someone is fine with it, because being a normal person in public isn't that unless you're autistic. If someone says no, so what. They might be rushing somewhere, or something on their costume broke and they'd rather fix it before pics. Eitherway, why are you being a spaz and potentially ruining it for everyone else? Because you being faggy edgelord in public just makes things worse for normal people.
>You think Goofy is a slut?
Wasn't that obvious?
>but if you sneakily take photos without asking it's a little weird.
It's a little weird to go out in public with most of your ass exposed
Quid pro quo
Just cause he fucks?
Second best thing Penny Arcade has ever made right after Dick Wolves. Also Penny Arcade is the perfect example of how mainstream success can be a detriment to artists, they sold out and it shows
>It's a little weird to go out in public with most of your ass exposed
No. You should respect and applaud that, because that encourages them to do it MORE.
I mean, we both know you're never getting laid, can you not try to make it harder for the rest of us to just enjoy skimpy cosplays? If cosplayers tell YOU specifically not to take pics of them, there is a reason. I've never once been told no, because cosplayers tend to enjoy getting pictures taken.
The dickwolves incident was totally a sign of the internet changing for the worse
>implying normal non-autistic people attend comic conventions
Before dickwolves, being the "big webcomic" was still niche as fuck. When it happened, pretty much everyone read some webcomics, so it got mainstream. They could either be mainstream (which provides for the families they both started up around then or soon after) or buck at their own growing fame to "keep it real".
Who the fuck cares? Boo hoo, I can't say penis or rape as often! Those fuckers GOT PAID. They had a FUCKING CHARITY. They ran a FUCKING CONVENTION. If any one of you would give up that level of wealth just to keep making a few edgy jokes, you've be straight up retarded.
Dickwolves are kinda funny though. Hehe... raped to sleep...
her comic is also so boring now
Go to bed gabe
I'm pretty sure the point that user was making was that dickwolves having such a massively negative response, when it was honestly pretty in line with what PA had done for well over a decade at that point, was a sign of the internet as a whole changing for the worse.
Her adventures in japan were cute and fun. Her attempt at making a serious webcomic is very bland. Agreed.
Which one?
As long as you aren't an ultra far right Nazi I don't have an issue.
Sleepless Domain. Aka; watching paint dry
aka; waiting a week to watch a character do a single action
I'm not trying to sound like a hipster, but I wonder how many PAX attendees even know about Penny Arcade the webcomic.
sleeplessdomain webcomic
the moment the art changed due to the artist drop around chap 2
everyone turn into midget, Mary Cagle only style
also it is at the same time the twist happened - and after that we have 9 chapters of almost nothing happen
Ah, I thought you were talking about Kiwi Blitz.
just target the furries, they pay oodles for basically nothing. like my buddy limebreaker, has gotten popular enough he can sell a random character he just made up for between 100-200 bucks.
Try spending a while on /ic/, they will shit all over you there
He doesn't count exactly, I just really hate fred and everything he has done.
Didn't Penders fuck up by thinking he was some kind of god among insects simply because he had fans? Somehow his ego was fueled to rock star proportions and forgot he was a comic artist on a video game based comic from a #4 company?
>Nice artstyle
>Funny writing that manages to squeeze in some pretty heartfelt moments
>Fun characters
>Neat ghost world done right hinting at some interesting plot threads
>Entire webcomic community paying attention to it
>EVERYTHING AFTER THIS PAGE THROWS ALL OF IT AWAY
This shit legit had a shot at being one of the all time classic webcomics, but holy shit I have never seen a comic careen into the side of a solid granite wall as hard as this did.
Didn't he recently think that Avengers Endgame's title was based on the title of a series of Sonic comics he did back in the day? Dude's off his fucking rocker.
Oh god this page is just the turning point isn't it? How long ago was this? Four years?
He definitely fell victim to his own ego. He likes to claim he is the single reason Sonic is even popular or known in the west. Then wanted to take complete possession over every character that appeared in the comic as his own.
What happened?
Twitter is odd since it's simultaneous you basically shouting from the rooftops for everybody but if you use it, the tweets and content you see is catered to you so you're stuck in a bubble of people with your opinions and interests. I think a lot of people(especially older) forget that you're still saying things fully in public and not among friends
Explain.
>Dude's off his fucking rocker.
You say that, until Tony teams up with the echidnas to beat Thanos
but user, quantum computers ARE a thing now.
we're literally living in the future.
Just wait until Carol goes Binary on screen, he will point and yell that is totally Super Sonic and his idea.
>Be me
>Webcomic artist with moderate following, get small sum from Patreon each month
>Nowhere near enough to live on but enough to treat myself with
>In school for STEM to hedge my bets
>Hoping someday one of my comics or art will blow up and and I'll be able to make it for real, but trying to stay realistic
Anyone else trying to make peace with the fact in all likelihood, they're ngmi?
Goofy will beat the shit out of you in Kingdom Hearts 3 if you don't ask for permission before getting him into your selfie
True story
Zack made a dodgeball game that was a parody of shitty shonen anime battles, including the part where they're absurdly long. He then followed this up by introducing half a dozen plot threads, and while they did mostly come together at the end of the chapter, it took a loooong time to get there, leading to a stretch of a few years where the plot didn't seem to be progressing.
In his defense, he blew out his wrist and keeps going back to drawing without letting it fully heal because he needs the patreon money to pay the bills, causing him to blow out his wrist again. If he was able to consistently update three pages a week, stuff like the hitball arc wouldn't feel as endless.
This is Paranatural guy?
I would rather
spend time grind my art while refined my story
than just post comic randomly on saturated market
I know, I been following him before Monmusu become a legit manga
>Archie
>#4
Archie fell down so many tiers after the 50's they're not even relevant anymore other than as an IP farm for TV shows, even more so than the Big Two. Even back when Penders was around there were a ton of companies that were much more talked about and relevant (Image, Dark Horse, Valiant, Malibu, fucking CrossGen)
I have to pay an artist to draw my comics for me, and if I ever hit break-even I'll consider myself to have made it.
If comics is paying you enough that you can treat yourself a little while progressing on your day job, you're not doing that bad. Even if you can never quit your day job, an extra few hundred a month put away could be the difference between Forever Renting and owning a home one day.
but that's not goofy. That's Mr. Wheeler, MOTORIST!
Don't you do most of your drawing with your wrist locked?
Floraverse. Previous pokemon artist started their own comic for more creative freedom than doing fanworks. It's not particularly good and there's a lot of drama IRL, but the colors appeal to middle school webcomic nostalgia pretty hard.
The house of cards basically all came crashing down in the span of a grueling 55 page dodgeball arc called Namekball. It was plagued by constant hiatuses due to the artist's reoccurring wrist problems and when it did update it didn't look nearly as good as it did in the early chapters cause the artist was pushing himself. The main story for the chapter, which was a mind hijacker ghost invading the school, slid to a screeching halt to focus on character development for random school classmate characters that did nothing.
The blend of jokes and serious moments that the series had been so good at evaporated and started stepping all over each other. Particularly in scenes with two of the chapter's central characters, Dr. Zarei and Isaac. Lots of needless exposition dumps. Just fucked it up basically
So a parody of shitty shounen become one in the end?
Can someone explain to me why Mass Effect 3's ending was so controversial? I was never into the series.
>kickstarter people love that
>post it here Yea Forums might hate it but you never now, any publicity is good
>Youtube Videos, Episodes with Voices
Tell us the name or something so we know it's you once you put it out, goodluck
Pretty sure very few of your choices are reflected by the ending, making decisions you pondered over every game feel pretty pointless.
1) they hope to win favor and esteem by leveraging their white voice in a humorously self-deprecating way
2) they hope to demonstrate their woke-ness and intellectual authority by leveraging their white voice in a humorously self-deprecating way
3) they hope to get their pp touch by the girl they've been crushing on (creeping on) by leveraging their white voice in a humorously self-deprecating way.
There are two major factors:
1) At the end of an RPG series full of all sorts of choices where the game director himself says every single major choice will play a part at the climax, you're faced with a color-coded A-B-C choice
2) All the endings you're given are somewhat grim and utterly lacking in detail to boot, leaving an immense amount of unanswered questions
Folks were usually bothered by one of the former more than the other, personally I hated the latter more because it was such a baffingly lazy ending that says nothing about what happened to the universe you played in, and more importantly, the characters you met and storylines you experienced.
It got so bad that greedy-ass EA had to release an expanded ending DLC for FREE, which did expand a bit more on the endings and gave one more choice to the players (which was basically a suicide/fuck everything option, so not much better)
He hiucks.
god I wanna learn to draw so bad
Nearly all webcomics have pacing problems exacerbated by their update schedule, but none more so than Paranatural. If he was consistently updating 3 pages a week, the Hitball game would've been done in a four and a half months, which is still a long time, but it wouldn't have killed the comic and the "it's an endless anime battle except it's a dodgeball game" thing would've gone down a lot better.
Instead, it went from April 14th to December 15th, which is seven months. If you were to archive binge Paranatural now, the arc's pacing is actually pretty good and it ends right around the time you're getting sick of it and the joke is wearing thin, because you can read the arc in like 30 minutes. Doesn't work as well stretches out over months, but that's webcomics.
Well, get on it! Stop coming to this shithole, and focus on drawing!
What do you want to draw user? Because I can tell you now.
You're going to suck. Hard. But that's okay, everyone does. The idea is to enjoy it and know that as long as you keep at it, you will eventually find yourself asking " How do I improve from here?
The answer is simple, just draw more and get to reading and constantly thinking about how you can improve
>those mastery drawings
kek
user go on they'll whip you into shape
thanks, cirno!
Most people forget that Twitter is "public" and that anyone and everyone can see it.
>have a small following, not too huge but better than where I started
>all my social media tweets are just related to my project or other people's stuff, rarely ever tweet about my personal life
>work a decent paying job to support it
>recently rejected publishing deal cause I felt I wasn't ready yet (don't really have time to subscribe to deadline)
>cancelled crowdfunding plans in order to just release work as a webcomic for a few years
>people are telling me to start up a patreon, tip jar or something
>I'm mostly content with people just enjoying my comic and confused as to why people want to give me money when it's all for free
I mean I'm not dying for profit and I'd rather hear more 'I enjoyed this' than the 'where do I buy this' stuff. Maybe I'm doing something right or maybe I'm too humble, I don't know.
>mfw she's skinny and actually looks decent now.
And people say bullying fat people doesn't work.
Words of wisdom from /ic/
You and I both know /ic/ will tell him to pirate How to Draw, How to Render, Loomis, Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, and another 200 pages of books and have him grinding circles and boxes for 100 hours before telling him in /beg/ that he should quit because he doesn't have a palmaris longus tendon to channel "The Spark"
Mary in general is a a pretty big hypocrite and and a total no fun allowed bordering SJW.
but user
his gamemaker earthboundgbtq is sellin
post it
Is it really? I thought it flopped since most players had already paid to receive it from the kickstarter.
>How to Draw, How to Render, Loomis
This actually works tho. The board is shit but it's the only decent art community on the internet where people don't just circlejerk and praise each other. My only gripe is that it's so heavily anime centered.
Drawing boxes is cancer though, I can't believe people fall for that meme.
Let's Speak English is still kino though. I try to make it a point not to find out too much about the lives or opinions of my favorite creators so I'm not disappointed.
If you just do the 250 challenge it's fine. It's like 5 minutes of warmups for a week to keep your line consistent.
I just wanna chime in on this: ME3 would have been a lot better with a simple tweak that would have tied things back to the first game a lot better.
Instead of introducing some random fucking ghost kid that the player has no developed connection to, just a brief meeting and then "oh the casualties of war", the form the crucible chooses should have been whoever it was you had to leave to die on Virmire in the first game. That would have been impactful, far more so than what we got.
Most artists don't and often have to use a brace to keep themselves from using their wrist.
ME went to shit right after the first one. First one was a diamond in the rough and the setting had incredible potential, but they wrote ME2 like shit and cornered themselves with the retarded fleet of Reapers at the end. When I think of the squandered potential of ME I just get upset. It could've become so good and so great. Fucking Bioware and EA.
Cagle doesn't have an issue with sexy anime ladies per se, so much as really hating impractical sexy costumes. She likes Darkstalkers, and even when she was doing the Fate GO redesigns that made everyone mad, she liked Shuten.
More importantly, though, she doesn't go around attacking people for drawing sexy girls, unless it's Aaron Diaz and then it's okay because fuck him.
It still wouldn't have changed the fact that the ending is more or less the same regardless of what you choose or that, if you had been paying attention to the lore, said endings are basically, "Yeah, you're pretty much fucked."
I enjoy her NSFW art. She's bad at it but she knows she's bad at it and there is a general sense of fun about her drawing it.
A lot of the game itself sucked. A lot of ME2 was confusing in hindsight. The closer we got to the ending, the more confusing it all became, the greater the pressure to have the ending wrap everything up and answer all these weird, confusing niggles became. And then, in the final seconds, they throw all those questions out to present us with an even bigger, more confusing question that renders all the other questions and all the other games moot and then wraps that up within 2 minutes. All these subsequent "endings" being huge, confusing downers didn't help either.
And then, when Biodrones start to revolt, the devs claim it's "artisitc integrity" and refuse to change the endings, offering instead to "explain" more in free DLC. It was like offering to polish a turd for free, it was still a turd.
Jollyjack/Sequential Art
Oh boy, he coulda really done something if it wasnt for the MACRO FURRY PORN
Although I do admit that 2 had some weak moments in the writing, I still point to it as one of the best games I've ever played. And yeah, the reapers were... questionable. Not the originally planned ending, from what I understand.
I agree with you completely. However, one of my gripes with the game was how they were all "LOOKIT THIS KID OOPS HE DED" and then you're having these trauma flashbacks about him through the whole game. I don't care. I don't care about this kid. My Sheperd was a sole survivor, THIS of all things is not what he's gonna be having flashbacks about.
What if those scenes were, instead, memories of times spent with the dead-on-virmire teammate came up? That death was the direct result of your choice, arguably one of the more powerful moments in the whole series, and it would have been a far more interesting point to use those periods to focus on.
I loved the hell out of 2 for the most part, and while I wanted to love 3 just as much it didn't feel like it had any of the heart of the series left, like they went with a too-early draft and just didn't give a shit enough to work over the story enough to get it where it needed to be.
Isn't she asexual herself?
I didn't join Twitter again until 2018. I have an old one but no one replies to me on it, ever, even though it has more followers.
>really hating impractical sexy costumes
I hate that shit too. I'm getting old and I'm tired of being titillated by ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING
IDK, I still get a kick out of Penny Arcade every once in a while.
I'm gonna put wanted posters and cryptic shit all over my town
People love that shit
Me in the back
I doubt EA would have gone for the dead teammate from ME1 due to them thinking a good portion of the players were hype bandwagoneers and they'd be confused by such a callback.
i gave up because i'm studying animation and vfx which includes 3d modeling, rigging and animation on mexico even though i was born in USA because i barely pay 500$ a year so i'm just drawing furries on the side for around 70$ each and hoping to get work after getting out with autocad or some 3d mobile shit
Just whore out and make tons of fanart of whatever is popular right now then put lesbians in your comic
You may well be right. Still makes me mad over the missed opportunity.
By all means I loved ME2 to bits, I was cheering like a madman when I got out of the bug base and nobody in my crew died and I enjoyed the fanficcy romance with mai Quarian waifu. The part on the Quarian ship was kino. But in retrospect, it was written like garbage. The main plot was really really bad and characters like Miranda and the black dude, can't even remember his name, were carboard cutouts of the highest degree. Jack was a terrible character too, it's like a 14 year old wrote that shit.
Some furry's pokemon knockoffs. I'm surprised they still have fans considering all the evidence of bestiality and pedophilia she and her cohort has been involved in.
>PK is actually doing better now than ever IIRC, they flipped their house for double what they paid for it, stabilized their patreons and bought a new place with like $100k to spare.
Life is really unfair sometimes, isn't it.
Quarian waifu is best waifu. I liked to run exclusively with Tali and Garrus, regardless of the practicality of that. You're right about Miranda and... JACOB I had to sit and think for a good 20 seconds there (fuck looking it up) though, and Jack was... middling. Some cool moments, but eh.
One thing I'll point out though, and it's a minor thing, ME2 had really fun load screens, with way more variety than I've seen in a lot of games. It made me not mind that it had them.
>Went from landwhale to cutie nerd with fat tits
>Censoring the author's url.
stonetoss.com
:^)
>implying that this inbred chud had any mainstream potential to begin with
post it here retard worse case scenario the call it gay and leave you alone
That's what happens when people would rather not get embarrassed by Tumblr meanies than report an artist's husband for felony solicitation of child pornography. It's not that person's fault that PK and her posse are creepy, but it's 100% her fault that they got away with it.
>I liked to run exclusively with Tali and Garrus
The one and only team I will ever need. My bro and my waifu.
Hey, children can't post here! Wait a minute...Oh fuck, OH FUCK!
DAMN IT user, DON'T DRAW ATTENTION TO WHEN THE 90S WERE!
good thing I'm into both of those things, so I'm glad her comic exists.
>Does Hazbin even count?
>posting a video I made to a taiwan sock stock exchange
pass
>necrophilia and pedophilia
I thought she was just into guro
>5K
I teach high school and make more than him. He's only a success compared to abject losers.
Does he even have a kid and a family?
Not that I'm aware of. Hard to tell since he shares a name with a model.
>He's only a success compared to abject losers.
Most artists with a work ethic don't make 5k a month.
I mean if EVS gave up on being a youtuber to focus solely on cyberfrog and mostly did that for a few years, he'd probably be able to make a comeback because corporate doesn't give that much of a fuck about E-drama and there's probably plenty of guys willing to work with him on a professional level. But the youtube stuff (which is a career in of itself and arguably necessary in order to market cyberfrog) keeps him in the drama limelight longer and longer which makes it harder and harder for him to make a mainstream comeback.
Yeah but he never verbally endorsed Vox Day's goofy-ass bullshit and no one really read alt-hero anyway so he's got plenty of plausible deniability in regards to all that.
whats the worst that can happen im pretty sure no one would make a big deal out of iit and would probably be forgotten by most anons here
worse case scenario we laugh at you for a bit and some fag screen caps it
I know the main comic is a better example for the thread, but goddamn if Adventure Log wasn't way better. It's a shame he only made ~10 of them.
>focus solely on cyberfrog
Wasn't that only like a double issue, and supposed to ship sometime last year? It feels a bit like Might No. 9: if he could have delivered it at a good pace, he wouldn't have made sure to get paid up front.
If I decide to publish a novel independently, Shad is on my shortlist for who to commission the cover from. The gleeful childishness at which he crosses boundaries is kind of endearing, it reminds me a lot of old Yea Forums and in turn makes me feel a good 10 years younger.
Yea Forums-goer here. The problem with ME3's was that EA took the series lead writer (Drew Karpyshyn) off the project and moved him to The Old Republic (craptastic KOROT-based MMO), and let the character writer of ME2 (Mac Walters) take over ME3 following an argument between the two. Karpyshyn left a plot road-map he wrote while working on ME2 related to dark energy and the reapers trying to curtail it's effects to keep the galaxy from dispersing. The plot was meant to culminate in the player choosing between joining the reapers to try and save the galaxy from it's eventual destruction or reject them and try to solve the problem yourself, with various previous decisions you made factoring into how successful that was. However, Mac Walters is a spiteful hack, so he scrapped the majority of the original plot Karpyshyn laid out and made up his own thing involving "AI ALWAYS EVIL" nonsense. The end result is that your decisions in the first 2 games wound up effecting nothing, and the reapers' motivations and origins make no sense because Mac Walters knows how to write dialogue and character arcs, but not plots.
Yeah, I want details
Before we tell you, why is your dick in your hand?
HA
good one
IIRC EVS is doing the pencils, inks, coloring, writing, and lettering all on his own, so when you factor in how he's also become a "full-time" youtube personality you have a very understandable schedule slip.
Though again, I would rather he not spend so much time hosting IBS-lite and focus more on his books.
>A 90's cartoonist that burned bridges with everyone.
>Daniel "San" Renard.
Now that's a name I haven't heard of in long time, a very long time
what were the statements?
I figured the same, until this week. Turns out he doesn't even have script or finished layouts. Which, I would assume you'd at least do layouts for every page if your style is to skip scripts and just go to roughing out the whole book. I've done that, it's fast and loose and fun way to hash out an idea. And you know how many pages and scenes you have when you're done, and then you start drawing the book in detail.
He seems to be drawing it page at a time, and just finishing a whole page, without knowing what the next one will be. And since he's the one who set the shipping date for his own book, it feels like he had no idea this method would take so long. If he wasn't "that Green Lantern guy", I'd assume he never drew a finished comic in his life.
But yeah, all the youtube shit isn't going to help anyone finish a book. Hopefully anyone in this thread who wants to get into comics keeps themselves focused.
Beautiful
what comic is that? i've seen that cyborg girl before
is it good?
>is it good?
it's shit
it's shit
shitty panelling, shitty plot, uses big words to sound smart, updates rarely
it has some popularity because it's old and it fulfilled a niche
I remember going to a convention in the early 2000s and the dude forgot he had his own panel and showed up 15 minutes late purely because other congoers reminded him of it.
whats going on with him
>implying Vivzie won't become mainstream on the back of HH success
>implying studios won't bend over themselves to hire her
This, she's going to have the next Invader Zim on her hands and probably play her cards opposite Vasquez.
He updates very slowly so there's not a huge amount there. I feel like Yea Forums hates him because of his personality and following more than the comic itself, which looks pretty but he's a terrible storyteller. Some of his early one shots were funny.
>which looks pretty but he's a terrible storyteller.
I really don't understand why he thinks he's so above just a normal, simple panel layout. I'd have read a lot more of his stuff just because it looks nice, if the layouts weren't just pretentious to the point of barely readable. And I'm a guy who spends times thing about doing a book where the panels spiral into the center of the page. But there is no finesse to his stuff, it just seems to have a weird layout so that it won't have a normal one.
>I really don't understand why he thinks he's so above just a normal, simple panel layout
Because he has hardcore fans who suck his cock
You overestimate how many people actually want real feedback and how many just want sycophants to tell them they're right.
Yes Men exist for a reason
Like I said, he's only a success compared to abject losers. Compared to guys that work at McDonald's? Yeah he's a success. But that's a pretty short bar for success.
You're pretty much saying that 99% of artists are abject losers.
>because of his personality and following more than the comic itself
The comic is a masterclass in what not to do in comics. it's total fucking garbage, the paneling is awful, it's horribly written and the art is mediocre. the only reason why it's gained any sort of traction is because he dedicates a big panel to his waifu's detailed tits and ass in every page.
It definitely didn't permanently fuck her reputation but what Tess Stone did with HiNABN definitely ensured that she'll probably never enjoy large scale success again, and certainly never in the actual industry. I can't imagine anyone wanting to actually hire her for a professional project with her reputation for quitting halfway. I know she's running another webcomic that I'm sure she'll abandon like the last two, but it seems to be a lot less well known and enjoyed than HiNABN. The art is somehow a lot less refined than it used to be as well.
It's a pity. She probably had potential but she really shot herself in the ass.
Just think it's funny that 98% of what gets mentioned is his redesigns of other people's characters, his feuds with other webcomics, etc. The comic itself is exquisitely bad maybe, but it's not memetically bad. In a weird way artists like the QC guy have one over on him.
>but it's not memetically bad
that's because there's way too little material to make memes out of it, the faggot publishes a page a year
I....there's no way this isn't intentionally terrible. Holy fuck.
>Inside their own country
Poland is part of Germany. American education, everyone.
That isn't a stand-out one either, thats just how the comic is most of the time
I get the feeling he could go for another 100 years and there'd be nothing memeable there.
>100 years
Yeah that's about 8 pages
I got my rewards, but I only pledged for the book.
It's a decent job, I don't regret having a copy of his earlier strips.