is jason voorhees inmortal ? is jason a deadite?
Is jason voorhees inmortal ? is jason a deadite?
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Depends on the continuity
I wouldn't call him immortal as much as he's just nearly impossible to kill. The few times he was resurrected was just by happenstance but he has been killed before.
The Jason Goes to Hell team wanted him to be a deadite, but it didn't officially make it to the finished product.
I'm trying to remember, was it Freddy or Jason who were at one point revealed to be powered by demonic worm monsters? Or was it both?
Is that kid supposed to be a Family Guy character?
You have to remember that the Necronomicon despite being a cursed book has several different spells, and in all the activities of Evil Dead is read by accident by the same spell in which the demons are released giving them the opportunity to possess any person and thing , But if Jason's mother took the time to study the book it is possible that she in a desperate attempt to revive a drowned child a different spell, one in which she will surrender her soul to not only mind. What is it that prevents them from seeing each other? Jason is not possessed, but it is not the same as saying, the same as when you die a vampire. on the ground, being his own body without saying that the supernatural abilities that they contemplate in the movies and even in the same game and that his mother gave his soul and use the power of the book to turn Jason into a demon that can not die and we could not even dominate other demons, remember what book seriously is powerful, as well as Jason being revived, feel like normal, like any living being, but being killed so many times, he was simply trapped in his own body condemned to rotting at least until I possess too many bodies, this would explain his irrational anger and turn his mother turn and pity others who have his own disfiguring disease, Jason IS a Deadite thanks to some spell is NOT being possessed by one
Freddy at the end last movie ? Pic related
And Jason last movie too
He ticks all the boxes of Revenant. No matter what Jason is he's not possessed by a Kandarian Demon. If "Deadite" is just a catch all for undead creatures created via evil forces then I guess he's a Deadite, but he's distinctly different from the Deadites of the Evil Dead movies.
You gotta work on your sentence structure man. I get the gist but boy that was a confusing read.
Jason can't be a deadite, he doesnt crack jokes.
Originally Jason was just a big retard before getting the zombie power up. In his own universe, he's okay, but when thrown into either DC or Marvel settings he's pretty low tier
>So yes, in my opinion, Jason Voorhees is a Deadite. He’s one of The Evil Dead.
Eh, just a guy's opinion. Goes To Hell isn't X, but it's also not the best in franchise.
At this point Jason has an immortal soul that cannot be contained in hell. It's a slasher film. They're best when they're fun and stupid and you don't think about it.
He's not immortal, he just always comes back somehow. Later movies make him harder and harder to kill, but there's usually either some way to kill or at least stop him for a while. He's a big, deformed, murder-savant and my husbando.
Freddy's Dead revealed that Freddy got his powers from the Dream Demons, who abandoned him when he died at the end of the movie (no explanation as to how he got his powers back at the start of Freddy vs. Jason).
Jason Goes to Hell revealed that Jason is cursed with immortality and can possess people and restore his body by possessing a relative. He loses his immortality at the end when he's stabbed with a magic dagger and dragged to Hell by demons (it isn't explained how he got his immortality back at the start of Freddy vs. Jason).
Freddy Vs. Jason picks up where both Freddy's Dead and Jason Goes to Hell left off, but selectively ignores some of the revised origin stuff from those movies because it was too complicated and/or stupid.
>Deadite
Only in comics.
Freddy Krueger vs Jason
Is kino
Maybe he cracks jokes and quips in his head?
I'm still pissed that Freddy vs. Jason vs. Pinhead never happened. That shit would've been fire.
Imagine an alternate universe where a horror crossover universe happened. The HCU.
Is he dating Sadako?
Well its not like Hellraiser belongs to the Weinsteins anymore...
He should be
Shut up Boco
>vs. Pinhead
I don't see how this would work. It's not like Jason or Freddy is going to solve the Lament Configuration. Unless we're just doing Hellrazer 3 and onward Pinhead were nothing matters and he's just evil for the sake of it
Well, the studio joke was that Freddy and Jason would be fighting in Hell when Pinhead chains them up and goes all "you two kids knock it off" on them.
i recently finished most of the hellraiser series and the boom comics. the comics were retarded. characters going around smashing boxes. hell vs hell...
Pic related
That was the original ending to FvJ. Concept art for the scene was made but due to licensing issues at the time nothing could be filmed.
There were multiple endings considered and a few filmed. One was that the male MC would revealed to have Freddy's glove at the end of the movie. Either hinting at a possession or son of Freddy idea.
Is this from that idea where they fight in a coliseum and the crowd is full of serial killers?
I read another ending was the male and female survivors doin' it, then he turns into Freddy and rapes her.
I skimmed through them and they were kinda silly. Of course they had to shoehorn Clive's detective character that nobody but him really cares about in there.
The only one I kinda like was the one shot where Pinhead brought back Frank for an issue.
>I read another ending was the male and female survivors doin' it, then he turns into Freddy and rapes her.
Yep. That was also considered. Another was that the girl was a family member of Jason and would become a zombie like him. Pretty much anything crazy to "reboot" the film series was considered to be possible for FvJ. There were even follow-up rumors of adding others into the sequel such as Ash (comics made), Hellraiser (discussed), Michael (Halloween), Leprechaun, and other monster killers.
Yea Forums horror thread? Yes, there's a Hellraiser comic, and yes there was a female Pinhead
But it was Kirsty, wasn't it?
Yeah. I just wanted an excuse to post that statue admittedly. Comic was good too, though
I don't remember seeing this in 'Jason Goes to Hell'...I saw some other demons, but I don't remember this guy.
i think that was a deleted scene
I can only imagine some protag solved the Lament Configuration and Freddy and Jason somehow got free'd to go search for some missing tortured souls as a process to convert them
Naturally they try to escape, Jason just wanting to kill Freddy and anyone else and Freddy actually trying to get the fuck out of dodge after experiencing power greater then his
You know we were gonna get a Pinhead vs Michael Myers movie as well but the Halloween side didn't like the idea of Myers thought process being explored
And we were gonna get a Chucky on Elms Street movie where Chucky and Freddy hit it off but realize they can't both be in the same neighborhood terrorizing the place so they opt for a "Who gets the most kills" and see who stays and who goes
We honestly are missing out on some good horror movies and potential crossovers do to corporations not wanting to have their guy seem like a total bitch or fear of lack of money
There are a bunch of deleted effects scenes that "didn't work" on film. The "Hellbaby" that Jason's heart turns into was originally that thing, but in the final film it's a small puppet you barely see. The original version of Jason getting dragged to Hell by demons was also nothing but rod puppets, including Jason, but the effect didn't work so they just went with guys in costumes.
michael myrs vs leatherface ?
>Camp Crystal Lake: Modern Day
>Another season of drunken teenage idiots trespass on Camp Crystal Lake
>Jason goes to town on all of them, nothing new, nothing spectacular.
>Rummages through their things in the hopes of finding a new bauble for his collection
>Finds a blank tape. Childlike curiosity almost excites the expressionless juggernaut. He hopes its a fun movie like the ones he used to watch with Mother.
>Turns on a generator, inserts the tape into one of the old VCRs, and sits in his shack
>The tape plays, and out comes the vengeful Sadako.
>Both are left genuinely confused. Saying nothing
>She stares at him, twitching in the air, uncertain what is supposed to happen next, already aware she cannot kill that which is already dead.
>Jason pokes at her with his machete, with no effect nor reaction.
>Both are uncertain what to do. Sadako cannot leave because the she hasn't killed the tape viewer, and Jason cannot kill her either given the circumstances and some confusing emotions running through his simple mind.
>He looks at Mother, no answer nor direction.
>And then the most strange, almost remarkable thing happens. Jason walks over to a small box, retrieving a shiny (yet cheap) bracelet he took off a victim two summers back, and hands it to Sadako.
>She takes it, twitches and groans, perhaps thanking the brute.
>The two of them begin to wander around the camp together, saying nothing, but perhaps no words are needed for what is happening.
>Sadako walks at the bottom of the lake to retrieve a long lost trinket Jason treasured years before his death.
>A new darkness has been cast over Camp Crystal Lake, one that can cause technology to fail without warning.
>Horror has now doubled on this cursed ground
Why would Sadako/Samara be in love with a retard?
>Michael Myers wondered into Leatherface territory while chasing after some teen that managed to get away
>Leatherface tries to kill the teen while also catching glimpses of Myers, who is back to keeping his distance I always assumed Myers was good at telling who could deal heavy damage to him
>Because it's Myers and he's near and around Leatherfaces family he kills them off either 1 after the other or fairly quickly
>Eventually it's a fight between Leatherface who's pretty pissed off Myers killed off his family and Myers, being myers
>Leatherface having retard strength seemingly knocks myers out and goes for his chainsaw only to find myers missing
>Leatherface gets stabbed in the back repeatedly by Myers who just showed up behind him but ends up cutting Myers arm off
>They both fall down seemingly dead
>Police show up
>Leatherface is probably dead and Myers is shown to not even be at the area where he fell
>shot of Leatherfaces eye opening up
Jason isn't even a deadite in the comics.
Deadites are specifically part of the Kandarian demon hivemind.
He's tied to the necronomicon but that book has evil magic from every source possible. Creating deadites is just one of the horrible end of the world threats you can get from reading it at random.
You'd either have Pinhead in a very out of place generic hell or Freddy and Jason duking it out in what's obviously Hellraiser's hell, which would kind of give away the Pinhead reveal.
reasons
You're trying to invent the horror/romcom genre, you fucking madman.
Isn't Sadako/Samara also retarded? She got developmentally stunted as a kid and her spirit never matured (Samara even younger than Sadako). Seems like she's in the same mental capacity as Jason.
Would you say mentally challenged people look up to Jason if they were bullied
>horror/romcom
Huh. How do we make Freddy less of an enemy and more of a trolling neighbour who keeps either pushing them together in awkward semi-romantic situation or deliberately causing misunderstandings to mess with their relationship?
Hey, Jason, you fuckwit, did ya take the bitch on a date yet? No? Let uncle Freddy teach ya about the undead birds and the ghost bees!
Maybe
>Chucky on Elms Street movie
Okay this one is a tragedy. Brad Dourif and Robert Englund sharing a screen
They were both in Urban Legend. Though they never shared a scene.
i kinda want a roadtrip movie with the two of them, either as their characters or as parodies of themselves
Nani?
Oh I can keep going, anons, just watch me. Shall I?
Yes. Please.
Please do. Horror/comedy is my heroin.
I have nothing to say I just want to post this
> when it's just the two of them left this starts playing. youtube.com
Autism time:
>easily spooked child
>shit my pants at the thought of chucky
>love the Halloween films, but still terrified because live in small town Illinois all my life
>decide I can cure my fear by imagining Michael Myers and chucky being captured and living in stereotypically stupid sitcom scenarios
Also I had decided back then that the only way to kill Michael was to have him permanently stored in a tank of water, cause I always thought he was immortal and reviving himself instead of playing dead
Alright
>Jason and Sadako's reign of terror has gone on for two summers now. The legends and horrors of Camp Crystal Lake have been renewed like never before thanks to Sadako's presence. It appears that staying out of the tape for this long has enabled her to enter any electronic she desires, no longer bound by the original rules. The internet debates if the ghost girl and ghoul are real, the local PD fears the camp and seeks only to contain, not kill.
>One of their favorite "games" is Sadako possessing the victims smart phones, a hand emerging from beyond the glass, horrified teenagers running from their camp to the dark woods only to find Jason waiting for them.
>Sadako gives Jason a wilted flower
>Jason responds by giving her a bag of weed he found off one of the corpses. He keeps finding it on his victims, and just assumes people like it for some reason.
>The time comes when both must rest, to start again the next day. Sadako contorts and crawls into a small television that's always playing dead air. Jason returns to a shitty mattress, clutching a dear ragged bear.
>For the first time in ages, Jason decides to rest for a while, peaceful, and doesn't even realize he hasn't heard Mother in weeks.
>He drifts off into darkness, stirred by a familiar, yet annoying voice
>"SUP, BITCH?!"
?
He's asking for clarification. I'm assuming you mean the two actors are in that movie?
youtu.be
Not Yea Forums related but eh since when has that ever stopped us
yes. Both Brad and Robert appear in Urban legend but at different times. They never interact.
>It appears that Freddy Krueger, The Springwood Slasher himself, has once again knocked on Jason's subconscious door. Freddy had long since abandoned his feud with Jason, finding it futile to fight to another stalemate with unnecessary pain. But that didn't mean he couldn't occasionally poke fun at the brute, delving into his dreams, his memories, and his desires.
>To Dream Demon's surprise he found images and dreams of Sadako, which he took delight in teasing Voorhees.
>After several nights of nocturnal mischief, Freddy soon became bored, realizing Jason wasn't really progressing with Sadako at all. The material had become boring, and Freddy HATED being bored. He was currently in the phase in-between killing sprees. After all, he needed to wait for new Springwood victims to learn his legend, and this was his only entertainment until that time.
>"Look you dumb bastard, you going to wine and dine this bitch or not? I mean even murder gets boring after a while unless you spice things up."
>Freddy has now become the annoying neighbor there to give advice. He often makes a dreamscape wherein he's Wilson from Home Improvement just to fuck with Jason.
>Jason remains unphased by all of this, occasionally trying to stab Freddy to no effect. Yet when it's all said and done, he does ponder on the things Freddy has told him when interacting with Sadako.
>One night, Sadako returns from her evening stroll by the lake to find a scene that would surprise her, had she the working facial muscles to express it.
>At first glance the table setting looked crude to say the least, but it was in fact the lumbering giant's first attempt at setting a table.
>Two broken plates, a bottle of Jack Daniels pilfered from a victim's camp, wildflowers, and a can of cooked beans
>Strange silent dinner
I'm surprised how much I'm rolling with this
Kek
Don't do this to me, it's my OTP
>Boco
Shut up
Why so one of the finals is literally girl MC becomes a new Jason and boy MC a new Freddie and then fuck?
In a way yes.
I don't hate this
It's good shit
There's a few of those already.
Awesome
>Leprechaun
HOW THE FUCK DID WE MISS THIS?
Leather face vs jason is a legit kino comic
I’m still salty no one has done jason vs predator yet, that would be the GOATest fight ever.
>part 25
what
>no Ash vs Nightmare on Prometheus ever
Yeah, but were they more or less retarded than the actual films got?
There was also that awful zombie movie/romantic comedy from few years back when they were trying to stick zombies to anything they could.
Life After Beth and Warm Bodies were fun
Just play Mortal Kombat X
>Yeah, but were they more or less retarded than the actual films got?
hm... you've got a point. i did like the progression of kirsty becoming a cenobite. "her motivation to save everyone from the inside"? not so much.
So which horror franchises share a universe?
OG Universal Monsters
jason 2 - 4 was mortal with high endurance and retard strenght
jason 6 - 8 was immortal super zombie
jason 9 was some sort of body snatching parasite
jason x was like the 6 - 8 one before turning into uber jason who was mostly machine.
FvJ jason was again a immortal super zombie
remake jason was a hillbilly with retard strenght
the second or third FvsJvsAsh comic made jason a half deadite
So i don't think Jason is cursed with immortality hes cursed with Resurrection.
You can beat his ass down and murder him to the point he goes dormant but all it requires is electricity, lightning or jean grey doing a psychic burst to switch him back on.
The soul transferring could be rewritten better to simply have him posses a nearby corpse instead of a living body.
that was never in the planning
all they had was a possible ending for FvJ where Pinhead would show up to take them both to 'hell'
>I read another ending was the male and female survivors doin' it, then he turns into Freddy and rapes her.
thats the only alternate ending they actually shot. and it's on the deleted scenes part of the dvd/bluray
sadako is also a Hermaphrodite
samara is 100 % female
Speaking of Slashers: how does this guy stack up?
>what are you waiting for you retard. fuck the shit out of her!
>Don't tell me your pecker isn't working?
>come let uncle freddy teach you all about the joys of sex
This
>Michael Myers and Chucky living in stereotypically stupid sitcom scenarios
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDrfHj3j398
I'd watch a season of The Odd Slashers.
bruh that's darth maul's dad
>At last we will reveal ourselves to the horny teenagers. At last we will have revenge.
Kino
in the Jason verse, he isn't a zombie but a spirit awakened because of a pychic women who gave him unlife. he controls his body like a puppet. The freddy,ash verse has him as a deadite
Hiw would Jason (Pre-rotting) be like as a boyfriend if he was less killing mad?
Pretty high tier with the tech of his, he was leading a full on invasion by the end of his series
Kinda weird to be talking about The immortal zombie you beat right as you’re about to have sex for the first time. But I guess it gets her motor running
Like Jason ..... Normal ?
over protective and needy. mommy issues.
freddy vs michael myers ? who wins ?
ME AM JASON WORST FRIENDS FOREVER
That might be a better way of wording it, yeah.
michael is like pre-super zombie jason. so like the jason from 2 - 4 only better at stealth
so in the real world freddy has a higher change of taking him out then against jason
dream world well freddy is in control, but seeing as they had to bullshit jason having a fear of water it will be hard to find what makes michael afraid.
I like to imagine jason gathering up trash like mechanical parts for joints for his arms and wood for legs that he absorbs into his frame when he can’t regeneate limbs and bodyparts fast enough. A sort of hodgepodge of Woodrot and junk strewn about camp crystal lake that becomes apart of him.
retard strenght jason had high endurance to pain and wounds
super zombie jason has a regeneration ability.
>deformed undead retard
Case Closed
well continue
how would sadako react to freddy?
>deformed undead retard
So your typical Yea Forums user
i think her fear was something , but idk
michael is a girl now?
or do you mean he's afraid of lauri strode?
Lauri
Michael ain't affraid of anything, he's "alive" only when he kills, so in the dream world it's Freddy that would be in trouble.
Would be nice if they made a movie about it, Myers protect a bunch of horny teenagers in the dream world only so he can kill them himself in the real world.
freddy has complete control over the dream world.
so not much myers could do to him in there.
Would love to see a Michael vs Jason movie. One wants to kill his family, the other just wants his only family back,
Myers isn't at all human. He's pure evil wearing a human skinsuit. It would just end up being a tug-of-war between the Dream Demons and Michael.
Jason is juicy
>Michael: So I killed my mom and dad then I spent years wanting to kill my sister
>Freddy: Ha! Nice!
>Jason: Dude, you killed your mom? I'm gonna fucking kill you.
>Freddy: Fight! Fight! Fight!
And imagine this as Michael and Jason just staring at each other standing still, with subtitles going beneath.
STOP SEXUALIZING JASON YOU FAGGOTS
>Jason and Sadako laying in bed after a long day of killing
>Jason watches Sadako. She's rolling around in her sleep, probably dreaming
>Sadako starts moaning, her hand slides under the sheets
>A really intense dream, Jason thinks to himself
>Sadako moans, "Oh, Freddy!"
I'm back, bitch
>Dinner concludes
>Jason has even prepared a movie
>It's an old tape of a children's movie. Something about a boy and his dog, it's hard to make out given how scrambled the footage is now.
>Dead stares at the tv
>Sadako gets up from seat, she walks over to the television, and inserts her hand through the screen.
>She miraculously retrieves the dog from the footage, although the end result is rather.....disturbing.
>This hyperactive, cute puppy glitches just like the old footage, and occasionally warps into a hellish hound found in the darkest of nightmares
>Jason and Sadako sit there, petting the abomination
>This family of horror just became three, and few can outrun The Hound of Crystal Lake. Whispers say it's howl is a bad omen of things to come, and that it lures people deeper into the woods with a false, cute image.
I just write cute shit unless someone WANTS me to go down that road
Nah, cute is good.
You could easily have Michael be afraid of fire due to Halloween 2.
>Jason, I'm telling you now if you don't give it too that little jap someone else will... and that someone will probably be me bitch!
I'd like to think that Freddy would see that as legit life advice and not just him messing with Jason.
depends on what version of michael
Original movie michael and the 'official' sequel that came out last year he's human
old movie version yeah he's some sort of evil in the form of man
how about adding the creature from jeepers creepers?
Sadako would make the first move, and she would be on top
people seem to forget that Sadako has a dick and a pussy
sadako is a Hermaphrodite
whatever you're looking for, you won't find it here
after FvJ when freddy was stuck inside jason's mind. all he did to annoy/torment jason was to fuck Pamela voorhees. just to piss off jason
i'd imagine he would do the same with sadako
better question would be how she would react to him
the chick from the grudge also allowed in?
the necronomicon is toilet paper at best
Maybe like thus
Jason 100% isn't in sex. He's like an extreme psa on premarital sex. But really, I can't imagine Jason not slaughter a married couple having sex, but we have yet to see that.
Next I don't think Jason even had a dick. He's 80% rot. I'm pretty sure over his many years of being under a lake or buried animals have probably eaten it.
>It's better if you read the necronomicon's lines in TF2 Spy's voice.
Isn't that only in the books and the Korean films?
so he would try and kill sadako if she puts the moves on him?
would be rather funny, jason freaking out when she takes off her clothes.
meanwhile freddy is in the background just facepalming
You came close to getting your wish in Jason X.
The ship's gynoid shoots the everloving fuck out of him, blowing off his limbs, chunks of his torso, his mask, and throws his machete into him. But he lands on the ship's medical scanner and it detects neural activity and tries to save him; 'insufficient tissue.. searching for viable alternatives.'
>Freddy is based on his remake look and has two dumb gloves instead of just switching the gloved hand when he switches sides like every other game
>Freddy fucking Krueger has no line of dialog, he just laughs and shushes
>His move-set and fatalities are as stale as piss
If they had waited just one more game they could've gotten actual Robert Langdon to voice Freddy in all the unique pre-fight interactions, he could've have a much more imaginative move-set due to the variations thing AND he would've gotten to fight Jason.
I'LL BE MAD FOREVER
That's not canon to the Japanese movies brother dude jack
freddy kicked jason pee pee
youtube.com
>ha, no balls huh voorhees
>Imagine an alternate universe where a horror crossover universe happened. The HCU.
I had this exact same idea but more so with my own original horror properties, most of which I haven't come up with yet. I think it'd be more interesting if you had a big crossover of the many different types of horror (like sci-fi horror, religious horror, slasher, monsters, etc.), instead of just getting a bunch of different slashers together.
>tfw no Freddy vs. Jason vs. Pinhead vs Michael Myers vs Chucky vs Ash
Why even live.
And face ?
Yes, of course.
Could you have saved jason?
what could be the next vs ?
Yes
>what could be the next vs ?
Honestly, they probably won't do any anymore. I would still love to see more, but the ideas mostly seem to be products of the era, and the few instances we got (FvJ, AvP) were not well received. FvJ was met with a lukewarm reception, though it was dumb fun honestly, but the AvP movies are widely considered to be trash.
I wish they had done a proper AvP that was actually good. Also wish we could have got the Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash that was kicked around for a while. At least we got the comic that was adapted from the script.
I'm not even sure which characters would make sense to fight each other. I feel like Jason vs. Leatherface might be kind of cool, but since Leatherface is just a normal guy (unless that's been changed in the shitty sequels or the remakes) it wouldn't be much of a fight.
A Freddy and Chucky crossover would actually be pretty funny, especially if it were based on the concept posted earlier.
>Huh. How do we make Freddy less of an enemy and more of a trolling neighbour who keeps either pushing them together in awkward semi-romantic situation or deliberately causing misunderstandings to mess with their relationship?
Shit man, who do you think set them up?
I assume he is on mobile, as phone speak is truly a has to sometime.
It's a spoof (albeit a surprisingly gory one) of Friday the 13th.
>Jackson is a lonely serial killer who is really beginning to question the point of all his killing. He is losing focus on why he started to kill in the first place. The future looks bleak until he meets a blind girl, Shelly, who begins to show him that life isn't so bad. It is all up to Jackson to decide if he's going to stop killing and start learning responsibility and think about finding a real job and starting a family.
Exchange Ash for Leatherface and you have the cast of Stan Helsing
>Freddy decides that he wants to be the number one slasher world wide
>Realizing he can't kill off most of his competition he gets the idea to distract them from their killing sprees
>What's the best way to distract anybody? Sex.
>Freddy goes about trying to set up slashers and other murderous creatures with one another
Outside of Sadako, what other female slashers do we have? Its kind of a sausage fest up in the horror slasher roster.
The cyborg girl from deadly friend.
The slasher genre isn't just highly sexual, it's profoundly gay. The killers all blend masculine and feminine aspects to create a sexual ambiguity akin to male homosexuality.
>Michael's mask has a placid, feminine Mona Lisa smile and eyes that are abyssal (feminine)
>Jason is primarily motivated by the influence of his mother and is heavily tied to nature (a woman)
>Freddy's weapons are traditionally feminine in design, and his catty attitude can be seen as feminine
>Leatherface is a crossdresser
>Chucky has a traditionally feminine haircut and is VERY sensitive about having it cut, [s]he's also possessed the body of a woman[/s]
And yet they all specialize in killing women via penetrative means. It's the perfect fusion of masculine and feminine, the inherent androgyny of homosexuality.
Too true. Have to go with female horror characters in general.
>Blood Widow
>Queen of the Damned
>Female Cenobites
>Bloody Mary
Because Pinhead would stomp all but maybe Jason.
The only non-one-off ones I can think of are Mary Lou Maloney, Angela Franklin, and I guess Angela Baker.
What about Carrie?
There's not a lot to work with. Emily from Homicidal is the only American one I can think of that's at the right age and isn't anybody's mum. Going more internationally, there's a number of she-Slashers and weirdo monstergirls over in Japan, because of course there is.
Freddy could do a long - medium fight
Also here's an idea I haven't seen before: Jason vs. Terminator.
>Judgement Day happens, Skynet destroys everything
>Jason somehow survives being nuked, is understandably very pissed
>Skynet throws everything it can at Jason, best it can do is just slow him down
>Sends several terminators back in time to try and kill Jason
Not Yea Forums or Yea Forums but there's a few female characters in Dead by Daylight.
If we count non-American movies then there's also a girl from the Audition and Kuchisake Onna
And don't forget
>Kyako (Ju-On: The Grudge)
>Julie Walker (Return of the Living Dead Part 3)
>Sil (Species)
>Asami Yamazaki (Audition)
>Candy (Killer Tongue)
>Leech Woman and Bombshell (Puppet Master series)
>Tiffany (Chucky series)
Also correct me if I'm wrong but aren't their female Predators? I also could've sworn one of the comics portrayed the Predator race as a matriarchy.
She hot
user horror fans are not looking for anything good just mindless violence and the feeling of smugness that comes from watching imaginary teenagers die
I don't know how the hell I managed to forget about Carrie while I was listing female horror icons but her too.
And also Baby from House of 1000 Corpses / Devil's Rejects.
We should also throw Candyman into the mix.
>Chucky vs. Leprechaun
Wishful thinking from anons on 4chen
That's just stupid enough to be awesome.
Fuck You!
Actually the optimal matchup for Chucky would probably be Ash. In addition to the non-stop one-liners, Chucky would probably be the one horror villain who could get the most out of the Necronomicon given what we saw in Curse.
Is she really a Slasher, though?
>Jason assaults a Skynet facility
>Somehow becomes a T-1000 in the ensuing chaos, but retains his old personality and habits
I disagree with your post good sir. Sure, as a gorehound I love mindless violence as much as any other gorehound but most horror fans that I've known \ met, including myself actually do love a good story and interesting characters and ideas. And a lot of them (including me) are also big sticklers for continuity. So I say we do enjoy other aspects of horror aside from mindless, gratuitous violence but it's the violence that makes up keep coming back.
Best girl coming though
I'd rather have Chucky vs. Puppet Master, that's been my horror fan wet dream for as long as I can remember. That and The Grudge vs. The Ring and that already happened.
still waiting for that sequel that will star the Sadako and Kyako fusion
>Actually the optimal matchup for Chucky would probably be Ash.
>I'd rather have Chucky vs. Puppet Master
Huh, these are also pretty good ideas.
I remember hearing about a cancelled Candyman vs Leprechaun movie
Pinhead vs Pennywise
Fuck You!
This seems interesting
I imagine it's more like where Jason uses Terminator limbs to replace his own injuries, the healing factor gradually integrating them into his body. Maybe at some point he loses his mask and cuts off the faceplate of a T-800 to wear
Also this isn't horror but I'd love to see Chucky vs. Robocop:
>Detroit Police unable to figure out who is committing all of these murders
>Maybe Chucky tricks someone into getting shot by an ED-209, has a funny quip about police brutality?
>Chucky's speed and mobility giving him the edge but he can't manage to actually get through Robocop's armor with any weapons
>Eventually settles on voodooing his soul into whatever new fucked up Robocop successor OCP is working on, this proves to be his undoing
>Chucky vs. Puppet Master
I'd like to see that just for the scene where Tiffany walks in on Chucky with Bombshell
>What the fuck is this!?
>Oh for once Tiff it's not what it looks like!
The burned man!
Based
Been reading it in a more scratchy sounding Bombinomicon voice
Chucky has been made incredibly more dangerous as time has gone on. By the time you get to Cult of Chucky from 2017, he has an entire army of himself in multiple forms. I'm not sure he can actually die anymore.
In Child's Play 2, his original Doll Body was refurbished by the Toy manufacturers to prove he wasn't a killer. So we learned that providing his body is repaired, he can come back.
In Child's Play 3, we see his original body almost completely melted, but some of his blood gets into the new plastic for the relaunch of dolls. This was enough to have him return, possessing the body of the first newly made Good Guy Doll.
In Bride of Chucky, Tiffany stitched together his Part 3 body which we established is enough to bring him back.
In Seed of Chucky, shit gets wild because Glen/da manages to resurrect Chucky and Tiffany in new dolls that had no biological contact with the two that were destroyed in Bride. So I guess now all it takes is for someone to recite the possession spell onto likenesses of the Chucky/Tiffany dolls. This film also finally shows us the Dolls transferring their souls into a human. Glen/da is even able to split itself into both male and female babies for each of its personalities.
In Curse, we see that Chucky was once again sticthed together by the now Human Tiffany, at the end of the film, Chucky now transfers his soul into a little girl. Hints at multiple Chucks.
In Cult, we get confirmation of multiple Chucks. Chucky can now divide his soul into any Good Guy doll, he can also transfer his soul into any human, even curing them of physical disabilities in the process. By the end of the film, Chucky is is the body of an adult female, with at least 4 Doll Chucky's roaming around. There's also human Tiffany, who split her soul back into her old 'Seed of' Doll as well as the human Glen and Glenda.
So long as a Chucky survives, he just needs to chant his way into another body.
>his subconscious somehow gets uploaded to skynets database it infects everything like a virus multiple Jason terminators
Chucky is effectively immortal. He ALWAYS comes back but as of Cult, now he doesn't have to wait, when one Chucky dies he always has magic clones to fallback on.
For all we know, their could be hundreds of Chucky clones too. I'd imagine that once he figured out he can split his soul onto multiple hosts he'd instantly go crazy with.
Jason, Freddie, Mayers...What if we fuse them?
>Jason becomes Skynet
FUND IT
It's one of the reasons why the remake is such a major-league dick move, because Don Mancini has spent decades building up a pretty clever ongoing plot with a lot of stuff going on and room for even more later on. I'm glad he got the TV series but it was such a shitty thing for MGM to go ahead with a reboot as if Mancini had just given up on it.
See I don't really like this idea because I associate Jason with nature/nature's wrath. He's like the polar opposite of skynet, and merging the two just wouldn't make any thematic sense.
Then Herbert West punches Pinhead out, because why the fuck not?
Well, it's not like fire really stopped him. All it really did was put him in a coma for 10 years or so
His real fear is d strike
No, it’s Busta Rhymes
no you guys, his writing is totally based and redpilled. Actual sentence structure is reddit garbage and only nigger jew kike cuck soibois use it.
daily reminder to dab on libtards and shit in their mouths because we are so le fucking epic also kill all femoids
You just know he'll have raided the old factories shown in the second and third films.
So I'm guessing you're not a fan of Cyborg Jason from Jason X?
>See I don't really like this idea because I associate Jason with nature/nature's wrath. He's like the polar opposite of skynet, and merging the two just wouldn't make any thematic sense.
Most of these franchises are already off the fucking rails anyway, since they all have like 10 installments, and any semblance of trying to keep it straight was usually shed by the 2nd or 3rd one.
I think as of Cult there was a reference to how Good Guys are rare collector's items, I know Chucky calls himself "vintage". So there probably aren't *too* many dolls left for him to use.
Meh.
Fuck DS shit perk for shit players
I feel like toys coming alive and killing people would kill a toy company PDQ.
I hope Andy escapes the asylum and makes a comeback. He has potential of becoming an awesome horror hero. In fact, I hope the tv series involves Andy trying to hunt down Chucky and Tiff while they go on a killing spree.
The Jason x Sadayo thing is cute but Sadayo most recently fused with Kayako.
How does that factor in?
If I ever get the budget and the crew, I'm stealing all these ideas.
Fresonyers
In universe Chucky is just an urban legend, no one ever believes Andy until they see Chucky up and moving with their own two eyes.
Also this isn't really related to anything but if It is any indication we're probably going to see a LOT of Chucky porn after the reboot drops.
>Chucky finds out that Good Guys are extremely rare and almost impossible to track down
>he still wants an army so he says "fuck it", breaks into a toy store or factory and brings hundreds of different dolls and toys to life
>interestingly enough he discovers his soul is so bounded with the good guy dolls specifically that the toys he brings to life develop their own personalities but are infinitely loyal to Chucky
The perfect man for me!
Kek
>Oh, that's cute. They have the TMNT, but pussified.
>One has a spatula
>One has a broom and dustpan
>One straight-up has a fucking bigass kitchen knife
Well....that's weird.
Wait, there was a Child's Play comic?
But they are also just as evil and fucked up as he is, seeing as they were brought to life with his soul. A ninja turtle figure can still have the personality of that turtle but he'd be just as murder happy as Chucky.
but there are some rare cases like a raggedy ann doll that's more kind and reluctant about killing as she has a bit of Chucky's soul containing a decent part of him that was lost long ago
There were tons of Child's Play comics, some made by multiple publishers.
The pic I used was taken from an issue published by Innovation Comics, their run takes place between the events of Child's Play 1 and 2. They're pretty decent if you want to give them a read.
I also recommend the crossover with Hack & Slash, which is a series about a final girl hunting down slashers.
>two horror waifus rolled into one
Lucky Jason.
>All them tapes
When Sadako has babies, are they actually VHS cassettes?
You wouldn't pirate a baby.
wew
>"That's it young lady, go to your room!"
>Ghost daughter angrily stomps into a tv and her cassette pops out of the player
>Mama Sadako then puts the cassette into it's clam shell casing, she angrily starts to point of the case
>"Just you wait till your father gets home!"
what are you talking about, I just want to rest my face on Jason's cheeks
I think this is the most English major post I've ever seen.
And I'm an English major.
>all the crazy ass lore set up
>dourif is confirmed back
>syfy can say fuck uncensored now
That show is gonna be fucking amazing isn't it?
>All of the cast and crew feel motivated because of the Reboot they all hate
It's going to be amazing
The stars and planets are perfectly aligned for the show to be horror kino, we just have to pray to the horror gods to bless it.
I heard Jennifer hates the reboot, what does Brad and Don say?
This was Brad's response
>the show is following the continuity
>tons of chucky dolls running around
>the cast and crew hate the reboot
There's totally gonna be a whole episode where a new good guy movie comes out and chucky prime fucks the production in the ass.
Sleepaway camp sort of
It'd be pretty cool if Myers never sleeps, just to see Freddy go into hysterics and enact elaborate plots to kill ol' Mikey.
Then again, it would kind of cheapen Myers as a whole if they started getting into what makes him tick, which any encounter with Freddy would ultimately end up doing.
The original plans for sequels after Halloween 4 was to have Jamie as the killer, with Michael's fate uncertain so they could always soft reboot it, but they pussed out and retconned her murdering her adoptive mother
Shit, all I have are Halloween, F13, and NOES comics so someone should storytime those.
Don was very polite in his statement about how he feels insulted/fucked over, but you can tell he's a lot more angry than he's letting on. I feel bad because apparently Don Mancini is one of the nicest guys in all of Hollywood and deserves so much better than this.
Freddy's always been my favourite slasher. Too bad they completely dumpstered him in dead by daylight. I still like playing him though.
Based chucky
Myers doesn't really work in any crossover that explores him as a character. After all, Michael is the void, the abyss, just a shape.
So... nobody remember Candyman? How does he stack up and fit in?
>just to see Freddy go into hysterics and enact elaborate plots to kill ol' Mikey.
Michael would be harder to trank than Jason, because he's not retarded, just autistic.
Rather than ask questions, why not wish for answers?
If I wished for answers the wishmaster would just blow my head up for having too much knowledge or some shit.
>Freddy enters Michael's dreams
>There's absolutely nothing
Or
>It's identical to the real world, with Myers just killing and creeping in suburbia
>It's not that he's afraid of the world or anything, it's just that this is all what reality is for Michael, and this is all that he is.
I'd reckon he'd put you in a position where you found out the truth for yourself.
In the case of "is Jason immortal", he'd give you a weapon and put Jason there next to you.
Hope you're prepared to use up another wish to get out of that one.
Why hasn't a 'Jason vs The Mask' ever been made?
So what happens? the thing doesn't dream.
Because Jason getting wearing the Mask for the pun would be too obvious.
How do you know? We just don't ever see it sleep.
Big Head is way too OP for any of the horror villains ITT, if you believe that he doesn't actually want to kill Walter and is just fucking with him.
So macready was infected ?
Nope. In the Thing video game (considered to be a canon sequel), it is revealed that bith MacReady and Childs were uninfected.
>Jason puts on The Mask of Loki
Everybody is just fucked from there, the only worst combination would be Freddy and the mask which I'd imagine would work out similarly to Emperor Joker.
Neither of them were, but they had no way of confirming it to each other. So they froze to death, unable to even approach each other and risk an uglier death than hypothermia.
He’s pretty tough, he once had a swarm of bees assault a city IIRC
Their true form is some disgusting tentacled abomination of raw impurity after they fuse though. One that promptly ends up killing countless across the world following its birth.
Sure, it would still make a good waifu. But Jason would become obsolete to it, since it would essentially kill everyone as a starting action. What's the point of being a Slasher if you have no victims left?
>The Mask of Loki
I want Yea Forums to leave
Go into outer space and fight Alien and/or Predator.
Speaking of DBD, it's odd how the Entity works. It's completely omnipotent (basically the strongest Slasher villain yet conceived) and has unlimited access to any reality it so chooses, and yet it purposefully depowers and limits its killers instead of making them as mighty as can be.
I know that it feeds on hope and a pretty specific stew of emotions, but it's still odd how it's never made its killers stronger to try and milk more from its victims.
The Entity has is subordinate to balance.
It's the worst off of all of them.
True so does he scale above Freddy?
Also his movie was pretty good...
It's seemingly trying to change this though. With each new victim, each new killer,and every morsel of hope and emotion, it gains more influence throughout existence and can further its reach.
The fact that it's going from taking one or two people at once to taking entire groups like Legion is already a fairly big change on its own.
>that jason and leatherface comic
why did i fap to it so many times?
Yeah but the Legion sucks so clearly the Entity's influence is being budgeted poorly.
>legion
such wasted potential
what were you fapping to?
This is the same being that immediately changed its mind from its original target victim for someone else on a dime, and continues to use n inherently inefficient system for gaining more power.
The Entity is basically what happens when you make a particularly unpleasant magpie all-powerful. Sure, its unlimited in its power and influence now, but it's still a magpie. It has no capacity for understanding certain things or making decisions that reap the best benefits. It just takes whatever catches its attention, despite better options being readily available.
I imagine if it made the killers too powerful the victims would lose hope to soon. It wants them to escape once in a while so they can build up into a better meal.
>unpleasant
>magpie
A little redundant but I'll take it.
At any rate I guess it explains the nestle of thorns imagery, a big disgusting nest with flashlights and perks in it.
Wait WHAT?
Please try harder to use periods in the future. Otherwise, solid post, chum
Magpies are just the type of suitably "scatterbrianed" creatures that came to mind that make for a good comparison with the Entity. There are probably better examples.
he, or it or whatever, is a multi-reality threat.
whatever happened to Jebediah when he went through the tuning forks turned him into some sort of death obsessed multi-reality destroying tyrant.
Well you see voodoo is seen as just a religion now, and one practice by brown people to boot, so a voodoo bad guy doesnt fly any more.
SO YOU need an evil corporation accidentally making killer robots
In the show Ash vs Evil Dead it's shown that at least one other kind of creature can be manifested by the necronomicon. Doesn't seem likely he's a deadite, but whatever he is might be related to them in some so far unseen way.
If you're talking about Eligos or Baal, then those are full-fledged demons, and not a hivemind using corpses and people puppets to interact with reality.
The Dark Ones were the rulers of ALL demonkind back at their height. Not just the Deadites/Kandarian Demon. Rituals to summon terrors unimaginable are contained within that book.
I would be way into the porn version of this. Thanks for spankbank material
We know that every piece and part of the Thing is in itself a 'creature'. Even something as small as blood is aware enough to attempt to escape the hot wire.
Throughout the movie, it is implied that any amount of the creature is capable of taking over a human. Fuchs discusses this with MacReady during the scene where he suggests everyone eat separate food out of cans.
In the start of the film the Thing in 'dog' form is running from the Norwegians. Eventually the 'dog' Thing runs up to Bennings and the camera shows us the 'dog' licking his face. Bennings is then shot in the leg and falls. MacReady walks past Bennings and hands him HIS bottle of Scotch, which he takes a drink from. We later see MacReady drinking from a nearly empty bottle in a later scene when he is recording his thoughts.
My theory is the 'dog' Things saliva was left on a human Bennings and Bennings unknowingly transferred that saliva to MacReadys bottle of Scotch. It is unknown but implied (I believe) that MacReady drank from that bottle afterwords, thus getting some of the saliva onto himself and opening up the possibility for the Thing to take over MacReady.
I know this theory has issues, namely that we do not see MacReady drink directly from the bottle we know Bennings drank from. However, no one else is ever shown to drink scotch (Blair is shown drinking Vodka, for example). The timeline is very short as well, so I believe it is not likely that the bottle Bennings drank from would be emptied before anyone else got a sip.
The other issue is we never see a small amount of the creature take over someone. Bennings may of gotten some saliva on him, but it was the 'corpse' that turned him later. However if Fuchs theory is true then it is very possible MacReady could of been turned due to the saliva.
eh, its shit booze, it probably killed the thing tissue.
Ahem
My Pretty Pet
I still think there's going to be some sort of twist, if not just because Curse of Chucky did the "ha ha you thought it was a reboot" thing. My guess is that they're going to do some sort of stealth sequel to the first film, where due to some bullshit Charles Lee Ray's soul enters the Buddi doll some 30 years after the original where everyone's forgotten him.
I mean, do you really think anyone gives a fuck about the portrayal of voodoo in films?
My nigga. Find a decent artist and get some scripts going. I'm not a major fan of any of these canons but I'd pay money for this in comic form.
If he got infected that early, why would Macready blow the thing up later on? why would it fuck itself over like that?
MacReady isn't the Thing, because if he were the opening scene with him playing computer chess wouldn't make symbolic, or foreshadowing, sense.
MacReady loses the game of computer chess, because he's just not that sharp, but he gains a 'stalemate', or even a Pyrrhic victory, over the machine by pouring whiskey into it and destroying it. Nevertheless, he still lost the game, and destroying the machine gains him nothing. This mirrors the ending, where his plans fail, and he destroys the camp, gaining nothing.
That's why I don't buy your theory.
The whole nature vs technology meme is a pretty long lasting one. It fits into the analysis offered by pretty well too(nature being feminine and tech/change being masculine). I think the idea flows pretty well both for story and philosophy. Plus like other anons have said most of these titles have gone way off the tails by now anyway. Even if this wasnt done as a 'what if' story it wouldnt really be upsetting the paths of any involved canons by all that much.
How can Sadako resist?
I'm still genuinely amazed that Victor Salva is still making movies and people go see them.
I don't know much about Pinhead but I know that Pennywise is a lot more fucking scary than people realize. For one thing, the clown/spider are just its physical vessels on earth and his true form is much much much bigger. He's twice the size of the physical universe at least. He could legitimately eat entire worlds easily.
>Have you ever wanted a girl so bad but you can't have her?
No one knows directors. Buzzfeed could publish an article on this guy tomorrow and everyone would forget within an hour because he didn't direct a blockbuster.
I meant those weird shaky fuckers Lucy Lawless summoned at the end of season 1. They crawled out of hair-do's mouth when the book was stuck to his face. Havent seen it in a long while so I dont remember too well but they seemed to be something below the likes of
>Biil
Blu Ray or ultra violet hd
You can go "down that road"
>You know Creeper, I don't get this Jason and Suk-uh-yoo or whatever her name is thing.
>Here's this deformed fucking retard and this tight little piece of Asian ass.
>I mean, I guess she kind of passes as retarded herself since all the can say is those weird groans but like Asians are supposed to be smart.
>She's with him while a fine piece of mass murdering dream slashing man like myself is stuck playing with his dick it just doesn't make any sense.
>*Cut to the Creeper sitting in a chair during his hibernation*
>Always good talking to ya buddy. You're the only bitch around here I can put up with. Mostly since you don't talk back.
Those were demon spawn of Ruby and Baal. Presumably, they'd have grown even more powerful had they totally matured via Necronomicon, but that didnt coem to pass.
Where are ypu getting thia info from? Pennywise never seemedall that interesting to me, but if this is in the book or a comic or something I'm def down to indulge
Good
Freddy's just mad he got his ass handed to him by Kayako after he tried pulling some shady shit on her kid ghost sidekick.
>Where are ypu getting thia info from?
The book and the Dark Tower series
Pennywise is basically a Lovecraftian entity
I just hope It 2 doesn't give him the same stupid spider form from the TV mini
Kino theme coming
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Jason isn't retarded. He has psychological problems, but clearly has a level of intelligence high enough to have built and maintained a crude shack with a toilet in the middle of the woods. He's self-aware enough to cover his horribly deformed face. He knows to take out phone boxes and electricity when needed. He thought to change his clothes early on in Part 3 because people knew what he was dressed in after the previous movie ended with at least one survivor. He also has enough of a dark sense of humor to often troll his victims once we're down to the final ones.
I do Love some good Craft I'll have to check these out. Thanks, m8
When Jason was in MKX they pretty much confirm he's a revenant.
Dunno if that counts for anything but I'll take it.
>Jason responds by giving her a bag of weed he found off one of the corpses. He keeps finding it on his victims, and just assumes people like it for some reason.
I lost it, you're pretty good user!
It's from the original IT novel. Canonically, IT is a Demon Elemental opposed to the Turtle Maturin, one of the Beam Guardians of the Dark Tower.
I'm not as familiar with Friday the 13th as I am Halloween or nightmare but every one of your guys "Jason vs" scenarios is just him absorbing and becoming part of whatever he's fighting
>By the time Tommy arrives I'm the last person left alive.
>He keeps Jason busy rest of the match
>Police were called
>I hide while Tommy distracts Jason
>2 minutes in the match left
>Jason finds me
>Run for the police exit
>Tommy's there
>Just as I'm about to escape, he shoots me in the face and gives the thumbs up
I'm glad they removed teamkilling from the game, but that was still kinda funny
t. hellraiser
What the actual fuck?
That shack has electricity?
I think somewhere John Carpenter himself said that you need to pay attention in some scenes to which characters who's breath you can see. The thing doesn't need to breath, or doesn't breath like we do, so if you don't see a person's breath, it means they're a thing.
Now, take a look at the final scenes of the movie, both when MacReady and Childs meet up in the tunnels after the alien's makeshift spacecraft is destroyed up until the two get into the the Helicopter, and tell me who's breath you don't ever see between the two.
childs was the thing
Well in the 2009 yeah. Jason pretty much has the camp on lockdown with traps, alarms and floodlights along with electric lighting in the shack. Plus it's not like he can't hook a generator up.
I think you're vastly underestimating how smart retards can be. I've done volunteer tard wrangling before and they can be remarkably perceptive and clever if left to their own devices. And remember, Jason didn't have downs (the most common form of retardation), he had hydrocephaly which works different, and that appears to have been "cured" as his healing factor gradually developed.
Uhhhhhhhhhh
Freddy should have turned Jason into a bug and crushed him in the movie. Pure pis
What would the end result be?
I was under the impression he was a zombie reanimated by a spell cast by his mother before dying.
Big Buff xenomorph with machetes for hands
>Jason isn't fazed by the bursting of said chest and promptly squishes the thing
Demon in flesh clothes powered by the hatred in child-Jason's soul as he drowned to death while his camp counselors fucked nearby.
>weed stash catches on fire
>both get high and wander around aimlessly around the campsite in a daze
>it's caught on camera by a stoner camper and goes viral
>it doesn't last long and he's quickly killed as the devil's lettuce doesn't stop them from not wanting to kill people
>stoner Jason becomes a meme, one that the camp managers exploit with t-shirts and other merch
>Ghost daughter fancies a particular camper and kidnaps him to be her boyfriend
>Despite their concern they allow her to keep him, and he agrees out of both arousal and fear
>Jason drags him out of bed for silent fishing trips at random points in the year
>Sadoko keeps catching her trying to sneak him into the TV to make out with him privately
>they make it work, somehow
>three daughters and one son,
>all variations of cassettes/discs
>VHS, Laserdisc, Betamax, and Blu-ray
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2. Suck cock
3. Die of AIDS
Cute
What exactly am I reading?
Chestburster embryo crushed by Jason's regenerating internal organs, probably shat out or just hangs around like ugly-ass turmor.
Ki-ki-ki Ma-ma-ma...
What is..?? This ?
New Blood Jason is best Jason.
The horror threads are always the comfiest on this board
Yeah, something about the horror genre that really opens it to interesting and surprisingly civil discussions.
I've got two more.
Someone I guess decided to write a fucking novella for the wikia entry on the girl in the remake who's longest scene is a gratuitous sex scene that lasts way too long
I choose to believe now that Jason X, after the movie, went and got Sadako a hard light hologram body. I know he gets dropped off on Earth Two at the end instead of the original, but you just know some smartass brought the Ring curse with him somehow when they switched planets.
All that would put their relationship at being over 400 years old. God bless.
It’s fun speculating about the relationships the slashers would have because some of them are near blank slates you could do anything with them and it might work well within what they already are
That’s why Jason is always seen as a big dumb guy who’s a softy for his mother and Freddy is a shitposting troll and Myers occasionally does a weird thing and shows mundane emotions in fanart of them
Or it could end like the fatso from the comics and don't have any effect.
Source ?
Based
Nothing, an undead host would not produce an embryo
Lessee, mother Voorhees, bride of chucky Tiffany, Carrie, the girl from let the right one in, possessed girl from the exorcist, the twins from the Shining, the vampire girls from queen of the damned and interview of the vampire, annabelle the doll, species female, maybe the xenomorphs?
i remember a few videos like that
He's been undead since the 6th movie.
The 9th movie has a different crossover canon that implies the Necronomicon was used like he is a special deadite.
wew
Basically, it is around MacReady. I agree to the gasoline bottle that he gives to Childs. But, I have some hints of why Childs is the Thing.
First, MacReady loses his chest game at the very beginning of the movie.It may sound like nothing, but he rages and puts alcohol in the computer. Ragequit. We see him as easily frustrated, and also that HE WAS CHECKMATE. He lost beyond his control.
Second, when he appears again with the dynamite stick, we see him cold, very cold. After like two-three minutes, we even see him moving his fingers still icy. If we consider that the thing doesn't feel cold, it can't be him AT THIS MOMENT.
JUmp to the end. Childs appears, MacReady and him both survivors, and Mac gives a bottle of alcohol (or gasoline) to Childs. As he starts to drink the music theme starts. Meanwhile, MacReady has steam coming from his mouth, Childs doesn't. MacReady smiles.
I think that you can see it both ways : either MacReady improved, learned no to be frustrated and take loss with some detachment, assuming Childs is the Thing. Either MacReady isn't the same because he doesn't behave like he did before.I still think it was Childs.,Let's debate on it.
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>I wish they had done a proper AvP that was actually good.
I will forever hate Hollywood for completely ruining the potential of this. How? How do you fuck this up ffs?
DeadByDaylight suffers from the similar problems
It's the remake Freddy and he's also considered fucking Z-tier killer compared to everyone else
He need to put you to sleep before he can actually hit you and it takes a while too so the survivor who is aware of what's happening can just bail and hide somewhere
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So this final imply he became a new freddie or that was just freddie?
It was Freddy ,becase she was dreaming
>One day the creeper just waku up during one this little venting Freddy does
>Freddy says goodbyes like he always do, the creeper just stare and wonders what just happened
It's funny how I remember being 5-12 years old and being SCARED SHITLESS by Freddie and Chucky. Nowadays they are the most endearing and fun characters to root for when watching their movies.
Ah, okay. I was drunk at a con when this was on in our hotel room. So my memory is a little hazy.
Jason Takes Omegle
Freddy and Chucky talk and have identifiable personalities
They're foul-mouthed, quippy, somewhat self-aware, and are enjoying themselves just as much as we enjoy them
They're essentially the MAIN characters of their movies despite not being the protagonist
I think It was : Ch Ch Ch Ah Ah Ah
kek
You and admittedly most licensed media of Friday the 13th would be wrong.
From several interviews with Harry Manfredini, he based the sound off the 3rd act in the movie, where Pamela says "Kill her, mommy. Kill her." Broken down to the consonants 'Ki' and 'Ma'. This is meant to be the auditory hallucination she hears and interprets as Jason telling her to kill. Harry then spoke the consonants harshly into an echoplex and the rest is history. In subsequent films where Harry wasn't the composer, the intent was lost and muddied the sound, but Jason is meant to similarly interpret the sound as "Kill for mommy."
So now it makes sense
Pinhead was female in The Hellbound Heart
>jason comes home to his shack after a night of killing
>sadako left a note earlier noting she whent to visit 'family'
>jason hears sounds coming from a different room
>gets closer, hears moans and Freddy's voice
>peeps through a hole, see's freddy with a long haired woman getting it on
>jason thinks it's sadako, bursts into the room ready to kill
>both freddy and the women stare at him
>it's kyako from the grudge
>jason just stands there confused
finally freddy shouts "GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE RETARD, YOUR GIRLFRIEND ISN'T HERE, or does it turn you on watching?"
>sadako later returns and attacks kyako
>freddy and jason just watch
Freddy has his powers because everything prior to New Nightmare were simply films based on an urban legend.
New Nightmare implies that "Freddy" isn't really Freddy but a demon who manifests as "Freddy" based on fear of the urban legend.
this one where kirsty and pinhead swap places?
i remember that new nightmare implies that a demon whent to 'residence' in the movies because he loved the character of freddy and took his form
Gentlemen, what seems to be the problem?
She Hot
>ywn created a fictional character so good that extradimensional like him so much to make him, his avatar on the physical plane
The Hellbound Heart is the original story the Hellraiser movie was based on.
>the weak should fear the strong
No. It was genderless. I own it.
Kek
Jason does this almost every year for halloween and Bruce is sick and tired of it
Thicc
Also why at the midpoint, and especially the end of A New Beginning, when Tommy is holding the mask, the chant changes to "ki ki ki ta ta ta", for "Kill kill kill, Tommy Tommy Tommy"
>Chucky in Jason's body
Imagine the fucking carnage.
He'd go on a killing spree realizing Jason is far stronger and far more durable then any human could ever be
Then get himself killed
Perfect time for this!
DELETE THIS
Oh shi-
What did he mean by this?
Was it an evil spirit that possessed Michael on Halloween all those years ago and hasn't left since? Or did he just suddenly go crazy?
it was the first (rob zombie version) and later the sequel to the first movie says that it's both
Jason still sits through the same Zorro movie every movie night so even trade
She was a great sith lord.
>Chucky immediately begins to regret it after realizing he can't form coherent words with Jason's mushmouth
>Can't adapt his style to account for new physical limitations and so finds himself constantly outplayed
>Has to deal both with Pamela's ghost and Freddy's general bullshit
>Now has to deal with Andy AND Tommy Jarvis
>Desperately wants a new body but can't articulate the spell anymore because mushmouth
>All the other Chuckys are making fun of him
>Just ate like nine bullet's some of them straight through the palm
>better pepper spray him
If you have sex with Jason does that mean he has to kill you and then himself?
depends , but maybe... yes
Well, whoever has sex with me usually ends up wanting to kill me and theirself anyway.
Only if you don't marry him first. You probably also need to be a woman first, Jason's mom strikes me as the kind of person who would denounce her son if he was gay.
>when your game gets canned because of lawsuits
The novelization of the original film had something about him being possessed or influenced by the spirit of an evil ancestor.
Leave Pennywise to us
The game has been going strong in the nearly year since the lawsuit killed future content.
Devs for Mortal Kombat said they werent specifically going for the reboot Freddy, but actually couldnt use the original due to actor licence or something.
might be bullshit, but thats what they said
I like to think the first series of movies and the New Line movies are completely different canons. Far as I’m concerned, he stayed dead in New York.
Imagine the possibilities, New York level, space ship level, characters from the films.
No, he is just so retarded, that can't understand how to die.
>Not Jason continues attacking
>Out of habit
>Freddy realizes he should've seen this coming
Choose Your Fighter! (Hillbilly Deluxe, Classic Slasher, Revenant Stalker)
I recently rewatched most of the Nightmare films, and I don't think the quips are as big of a part of Freddy's character as people remember. He doesn't really get into it until the fourth film, and the quality of the movies starts dropping at the same time. By the time you get to Freddy's Dead it's complete garbage and he won't shut up.
the fourth film is the best
Do you think the era that allowed Jason and Freddy to get popular is unique to them? Or rather, unique to that time period? I can't think of anything as popular as the silver-age horror classics that have been released sense.
Maybe silver-age is the wrong term, but I think of it as the following:
Golden age:
>MGM Classics, 20's-50's and a little after.
Silver age:
>Begins with Dawn of the Dead, ends with Jeepers Creepers. The Grudge?
Modern Age:
>Starts with Paranormal Activity, is ongoing
I know there are some outliers but that's my general guidline for horror movie generations.
I am disappointed in 3 and we'll never get a 4.
Guys GUYS! What if,like, now hear me out, guys. What if,like the Predator hunted all of the slashers? What if instead of subverting an action movie the Predator subverts a stereotypical slasher flick? Something along those lines?
a Single predator being tormented as he miserably fails on each slasher like Sylvester being thwarted by Tweety but (more?) sinister
Would it want the Slasher's Autism?
Only Michael's. God I'm still fucking pissed. You just KNOW some writer has an autistic kid and put that in there and was like "look what daddy did for you,son! The predators WANT your autism! " and the kid probably just stood there and squinted.
Kind weird that they only use the spins to collect DNA but have trophy case because?
There's I big gap between your golden and silver age. I definitely believe the best years for horror flicks were the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Culture hadn't been pussified yet and while horror movies weren't made for kids I believe it was expected that kids were still going to watch them. As a kid in the video rental store I used to love going in to the horror section and just looking at the box art.
Yeah, I admittedly don't know what horror came around during that gap.
I'm fully aware that neither these gaming companies could not have used the original look because they couldn't afford it
It's probably why we got stuck with Amanda in Dead by Daylight rather then Jigsaw himself because he'd cost more then a character who died and was forgotten for the rest of the franchise
DBD chads win once again
Universal got this right with their monster characters.
ONCE.
Classic Slasher
>Jason has an immortal soul that cannot be contained in hell.
That's kind of the whole entire point of Hell. No matter how bad you are, there's a pit low enough for you and an enteral torment that will make you suffer. No exceptions. You don't just get a "Get out of Hell free" card and waltz out of it like it was nothing more than a revolving door. Hell was created by God for a purpose.
Anyone getting out would imply God is not all powerful and can be defeated. And that simply isn't how God and the afterlife work. If you're a fiend, you burn in Hell. Forever. No exceptions. That's all there is to it.
No. They're from two entirely separate properties in to different countries. And no licensing is on record that connects the two properties.
Heh
I feel like Jason would just be like a big brother type to her and would just stare off and nod occasionally to Sadako while he does something like sharpening his machete or just finding stuff on walks through the camp when nobody is there
Well I mean it's Jason. He's got the brain of a coddled idiot boy. He has no sexual desire.
I agree with you
Nice
Based Jason
I want to snuggle with Michael's big powerful chest!
Damn it Freddy get your shit together!
Michael killed off the entire Haddonfield police force. Twice.
How does this look with the new Halloween movie that came out last year? Doesn't seem this chart counts retcon.
At least Jason has some sort of explanation for why he comes back
The Halloween movies never fucking explain how Meyers comes back after 2
He's powered by the evil origins of Halloween.
The same evil that inspired Halloween 3's idea.
Think of him as inhumanly evil. It's never the main focus but there is more often a supernatural work behind inspiring the evil deeds of the Halloween franchise. Even the remake had the sequel where the white horse symbol is something not exclusively seen by Micheal.
I can't be exact off the top of my head but I think Micheal killed less than 10 people in the new reboot sequel.
i can see jason brining back random items that he tries to give to sadako
who doesn't understand what to do with all the stuff
>Jason bringing in random things from his victims like broken phones and sunglasses
>Can't talk so just does the motion "This is a hat, it goes on your head, like this" "You hold this up to your ear, I guess, people like that"
Jason our hero
i can see freddy budding in and just laughing at all the useless crap jason keeps brining back
>yeah a pair of boxershort is really gonna impress her, hahahahaha
He delivered at least one taunting line per dream sequence in the first movie. The quips were what always set him apart. Sure they only go overdrive in the later movies, but it was always part of Freddy.
I’ve always found Freddie Krueger captivating and horrifically interesting so it was about time I watched a nightmare on Elm Street.
she hot
Him and Solomon Grundy.
Original flick still holds up, 2 is okay, 3 is better, 4-6 steadily decline with 6 being the worst, New Nightmare does some good meta plot, Vs Jason is fun nonsense, and remake has a stupid plottwist idea that ruins it more than even the badCG.
>Thinking God exists in the horror universe
The fact that guys like Freddy, Jason and Chucky can in fact, just go in and out of hell whenever they want is indication that either God doesn't care, doesn't exist or isn't all powerful at all. And Satan is just as big of a pussy.
That whole weird creepy thing with Freddy being trapped in his mother's womb does imply that God exists
The fact that Freddy managed to escape and never have to deal with his Mother again also implies God either doesn't care enough or isn't that powerful
...but most slashers don't go to hell that often. Jason went once, maybe twice, both times he left because of someone else. Freddy went once then came back somehow. Chucky not only has never canonically been to hell, but his universe has the voodoo god of Damballa which is much more amoral and less likely to send him to voodoo hell.
This design beautiful
why is michael myers strong?
The Curse of Michael Myers, indicates that Michael Myers comes from some cult that worships Thor, and that it is through this cult that Michael Myers gets his powers.
No, the spirit possessing him is though. It moves through the family.
so Ms Vorhees kinda fucks up with what she is doing with the Necronimocon so Jason is in a weird form of stasis under crystal lake. Then the murders she performs and her eventual death accidentally fully activate what she was trying to do. Reanimating Jason. He then ages forward at an accelerated rate and is kind of a meta human until he dies then when the lightning resurrects him hes a full on super zombie deadite.
thoughts on 28 days later?
Probably didn't have much to do other than work out in that asylum. I can't imagine him doing painting.
>Michael Myers staring blankly at the wall, through the wall, to that night, Halloween 1978 in Haddenfield while doing power squats with huge weights on either sides of the bars
>that one part in Bride of Chucky where he looks at the dad character with nails in his face and says to himself "why does that look so familiar?"
I know that's just a cute little reference but being someone that buys into the shared horror universe thing, I take that as a fact that Chucky met Pinhead while he was in hell.
As for Damballa and other horror gods, I see it working the same way that things work in the DC universe where just about every kind of god exists but the Abhramaic god is the top dog.
I haven't seen it myself but it has some of the most split reactions I've ever seen for any movie. Some people really like and some really hate it.
In Part 2, it's understood he was living in the woods the entire time, so let's say Pamela found the Necronomicon within a year of his drowning and tried using it, killing the two responsible, as a blood sacrifice. Then she had to flee the scene and couldn't go straight back to the lake, where Jason had already risen and seeing police cars, runs off into the woods out of fear and distrust of them.
In a shared horror universe, Leviathan probably takes God's place. And we all know that Leviathan gives absolutely no shits beyond milking pain and suffering.
28 weeks is meh , the soundtrack is good
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>Leviathan is the one true God of the shared horror universe
>Leviathan feeds off of pain, carnage, fear and despair and the only thing that can combat any of these things is hope, hope gives humanity the power to combat the many terrors of the universe.
>Things like prayer, holy water and crucifixes work not because of an actual God or holy force but it's humanity's hope and trust in those things that give them actual power.
>Leviathan creates and allows the existence of monsters and killers to destroy hope and envelop everyone and everything in darkness and pain but humanity, uh uh finds a way.
Am I the only one that thinks this sounds fucking awesome?
Based Freddy Krueger
Its pretty dakn neat. Though as it so turns out, Leviathan DOES have a good counterpart (though overall weaker thsn he is). His sister, Morte Mamme, opposes him and creates beings called Harrowers to act as counters to him and his Cenobites.
Really? That's cool. If Leviathan represents despair then Morte Mamme would represent hope. And sense Leviathan feeds off of pain and fear then Morte Mamme could gain power in humanity's hope or maybe she is what gives humanity that power in the first place.
>all final girls (and Ash Williams) are the result of Morte Mamme empowering them with some of her power
comicvine.gamespot.com
She's actually pretty fucking weird, despite being purely benevolent. Which seemingly stems from her being a god of benign chaos to her brother's soul-destroying order.
Hey, he has open wounds, man.
she hot too
>Missed a F13 thread
rip
I've actually been reading this exact page sense I'v become aware of her and she seems to fit in perfectly with the "hope gives humanity power over evil" theory. She is Leviathan's opposite after all, it would make sense that she would want to lead people into becoming survivors to counter Leviathan's monsters.
She's got the Harrowers to combat the Cenobites, but Ash and others blessed by her intervention are meant to counter just about everything else.
This impromptu discussion over a shared horror universe got me interested. Should I make a thread to discuss this idea after this one dies? It could be fun.
Yes
That would be a good idea. Slasher threads are up there with Animorphs threads in how much they generate good discussion on here.
Actually thinking on it, I can seecLeviathan and the Dark Ones from Evil Dead providing aid against their respective enemies from time to time. So instead of a Cenobite infestation, the Harrowers could meet a horde of Deadites and vice versa. And if we slotted the DBD Entity into this, then it might provide another avenue for villain interactions.
The Thing would absolutely fuck Jason and any other horror movie antagonist it will come across. The only other entity I could think of that could be a perfect counter to it is The Blob.
Just imagine the banter between Freddy, Ash, Chucky, and Leprechaun
Only downside is that no matter how good it is and how many people watch, syfy always kills their shows at 5 seasons.
Something about at 5 seasons their shows can be syndicated along with all the cast and crew getting higher salaries on anything past 5 seasons
Guys , Guys, thoughts on project blue book?
>Ayy ?
The Entity would work separately entirely and just snatch up unsuspecting Cenobites and Deadites like it did Freddy
2 things to factor in
>Myers mainly ever only operates on Halloween
>Freddy and Jason both kept killing off screen between movies.
Freddys Nightmares is pretty much Freddy fucking with kids and experimenting with his powers and still racking up a body count.
Jason just kills everyone that comes to Crystal lake and for some reason people just cant stop going there. When he traveled to Elm Street, Manhattan, and when he left the morgue are the prime examples of him killing outside the area and then he usually just leaves a trail leading back to Crystal Lake.
Freddy and Jason both could easily be in the 300+ category
Asking this question now since I've never actually done this before. When putting a link to another thread, do you just put the thread number and it will be a link? Is at how it works??
Yes just copy the QUOTE i mean the >> and numbers
I see it as more lovecraftian, because horror. It's a pantheon of different extremely powerful entities, and they're all catalogued in the Necronomicon. My list:
>Deadites (duh)
>Leviathan/The Cenobites (Hellraiser)
>The Dream Demons (NOES)
>Damballa (Child's Play)
>Unnamed Wrathful Nature Presence (F13)
>Djinss (Wishmaster)
>It (It)
>Samhain (Halloween 3/Trick-r-Treat)
I'm not counting any of the Halloween 6 stuff because that movie sucked ass.
Thank you.
What about Damballa (Child's Play)?
I always liked the idea some of the Evil Dead comics played with
>multiverse and there's a necronomicon on mostly all of them and they're connected
>tossing Ash between em and the multiverse as they individually get tired of dealing with his chosen one ass
He already did
What about it? I listed it.
Could Ernest survive in the shared horrorverse?
I mean he did defeat an army of trolls
Oh sorry, my retard eyes didn't see it.
Yes, he'd be able to survive purely on dumb luck. And hope, because that's thing now
See
How many slashers actually feature benevolent supernatural beings or imply that God or angels actually do exist?
The only one that I can think of right now is The Curse of El Charro.
Ernest is a gag character. The laws of the universe bend to accommodate gag characters. Ernest could be sprayed with viscera from a guy that was assimilated by The Thing and remain unchanged because his grossed out reaction is comedy gold.
There is no God, only Leviathan.
And Morte Mamme
nightmare in elm street ,evil dead
Now I have the mental imagine of Ernest canoing at Crystal Lake and never encountering Jason the entire time.
Every time Jason goes for him he falls into something Ernest was just doing.
>ernest digging a pit to shit in
>turns his back and Jason walks up on him and right into the pit
>Ernest goes to sleep in his tent
>Jason gets caught and shot up into a tree Ernest out out for bears
>Ernest bends down to pick something up and runs over Jason as hes leaving all while complaining about the rumors of the crystal lake killer being fake
>Comedy brings levity to the harsh cruelty of reality and thus brings hope
Ernest is going to save us all.
>Laws of the universe bend to accommodate gag characters
So you're saying that it's just Hypercrisis?
>Ernest bends down to tie his shoe just in time for Jason to miss trying to tackle him into crystal lake
>Ernest only sees the splash and says "Golly that must have been huge Bass"
I would spend good money to see that.
They both work in the same way
Freddy needs people to remember him so he can invade dreams
Candyman needs people to remember his legend so he can keep doing shit
Candyman stacks up higher then Freddy because he is already affecting the real world
See you guys soon.
>Eventually, El Charro kills every one of the girls except for Maria, who races toward a shrine of the archangel Michael (James Intveld). Using his heavenly abilities, Michael kills El Charro, and the curse is thus destroyed as well.
Huh.
>Michael is just a Harrower
I read it with Merasmus voice i think it's funnier.
I'll remember this when the thread dies.
Seems good
>Still flays her nipples open
That is surprisingly lewd
>Spikes protruding from heels turn feet into makeshift high heels
Also surprisingly lewd
Why can't we get Tapas comics of this kind of things?
Yea source.
>CyJason and Cortana Sadako