Overhyped

>saying how he hated articulation and how it ruined sculpts
And he's completely right. Not to mention his toys had the best sculpts in the game for a while, until the competitors caught up.
He's gone back to making articulated stuff nowadays though. Just look at the Fortnite figures. Supposedly got the license to do DC figures now too.

>Moon Knight
Moon Knight has never been popular.

>fortnite figures
its a game with no characters

Spawn is a relic of the 90s and didn't survive given how super edge/serious the material was. Lobo at least had some satirical value, hence why he's still popular and more relevant these days. Any memory of Spawn is purely nostalgia, mostly from the movie. The comics are mostly just all jerking off in an alleyway whining about WANDA. In fact I'd wager 90% of Spawn related threads are started by Todd McFarlane himself trying to get people to care

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Part of it. And everything in the early issues was what was popular at the time.

How is that relevant to anything he said?

I remember getting the wave with the gorilla for my birthday when they were brand new in like 1996 I think. And then a few years later I got the Spawn game for Dreamcast, I still play that sometimes.

That poster thought he was on Yea Forums.

People liked Spawn for mostly superficial reasons. At the time he was like The Punisher in the sense that "he's super serious/adult oriented" which allowed people to feel okay liking comic book material. That, and they just liked his costume. The "super hero from hell" thing was easy to sell, despite the fact that Al is really just a low rent Ghost Rider

>In fact I'd wager 90% of Spawn related threads are started by Todd McFarlane himself trying to get people to care
What threads? Lmao. And fuck you for making that Todd assumption. Spawn still has fans. So what if the content is edgy and serious? If everything was the same, it'd be boring as hell. For the record, "self aware" and satirical ala Lobo, or to a further extent "le epic meme meister" Deadpoolm, doesn't necessarily make the property good.
The Long Halloween is "edgy" and takes itself seriously too. It's still on of the best comics ever written. Am I comparing Spawn to TLH? Not really, but to say that a character is garbage just because he's darker is too generalized to stand as good critique.

>low rent Ghost Rider
Ghost Rider is a low rent Ghost Rider

Fuck off, Todd. The fact that you got so defensive about it speaks volumes.
Very true. Most seem to forget the original Rider though

hi todd

Yeah, still not Todd, but thanks for admitting that the Rider needs more love.
Btw, does Lobo have his own book? I can't find him on any of the charts. Spawn, being as irrelevant as he is, still manages to land top 40 most of the time.

Currently no. Spawn still has a book for whatever reason, despite no one ever talking about it

Except that's what we're doing right now. And it outsells characters like Green Arrow and Hawkman. But whatever. Not forcing you to like the character, just can't agree with the absolutes that you're presenting.

>Overhyped
>big deal

We rarely even have threads about it.
But it has a niche

nope, there are tons of other companies that also make shitty stories, i personally liked spawn because the story ans the artwork, there are some superb issues, also i was an edgy teen and all the anti hero thing was great. I guess him not being DC or Marvel property allow the writers to do some shit they couldn´t did on those companies. Just think about how Dark horse, it has some great stories and great characters not wrapped on that classic marvel/dc campy style.

>dude i kill for fun LMAO
>better than a character with actual background like Spawn

Lobofags are the worse.

Nigga Spawn is shit and hardly has ANY cultural relevance whatsoever. Oh wow, he beats Hawkman numbers, big deal.

>Actual background
>100 issues about Spawn being a bitch crying about Wanda and getting his ass kicked by a clown

i would love this
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And that's why Blumhouse is making a new Spawn flick?
And who the fuck is talking about "cultural relevance". Comic book properties outside of movies have hardly any cultural relevance whatsoever, aside from characters like Batman, Superman & maybe Spider-Man.
That's not what I'm talking about here. You said Spawn's book was dead, and the fact of the matter is, it's not.
It's fine to have a personal bias against the character, but you can't argue with factual data.

>Factual data
Ha! The only reason why Spawn is getting a movie is because capeshit is hot right now, and Todd personally has been funding/pushing it for YEARS. And I never said his book was "dead", don't put words in my mouth. All I said was it was still going despite people seldom mentioning/caring about it. You can stop being a characterfag and admit that. And yeah, cultural relevance is a factor. I'm beginning to think you love Spawn because of how niche he is and doesn't fall under the big 2 umbrella.

Thats a part of it yeah. Issue like 8 or 9 or whatever is entirely about creators having ownership of their own characters. Its pretty great.

>And he's completely right.
False, Gunpla can look far superior while still providing for articulation. Gaijins just don't know what they are doing.

>The only reason why Spawn is getting a movie is because capeshit is hot right now
Then why isn't someone more popular getting a movie first. There's tons of characters to pick from. Not to say that I disagree with you entirely. In fact, studios have been trying to fund a Spawn flick for a while now, but since Todd wants creative control, he'll have to settle for a low budget.
What you said was in essence, that it's a dead property because people seldom mention it or seem to care about it. Obviously someone is buying the book so it's hardly as irrelevant as it seems to be.
>And yeah, cultural relevance is a factor
A factor in what? Overall popularity? No shit sherlock.
>I'm beginning to think you love Spawn because of how niche he is and doesn't fall under the big 2 umbrella.
Love is a strong word, but I like all kinds of characters, no matter what publisher they're coming from. Spawn just happens to be one of them.

>Then why isn't someone more popular getting a movie first.
Um, they have? Several in fact. Where the fuck have you been? Spawn getting shit now this late in the game isn't an indication of demand, but studios scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

Dude, Gunpla is anime mech territory. Articulation doesn't make a difference. If anything, it might make the final product better.
You can't compare that to something as realistic as Batman, who would look like complete garbage with the same amount of articulation.

>Um, they have? Several in fact
There's tons of characters that are more popular than Spawn, and still haven't been made into movies.
>but studios scrapping the bottom of the barrel
Like I said earlier, studios have been trying to get a Spawn film going for a while, but Todd has disagreed because he wants full creative control, and that's not something you can do on a 100mil budget. That's why he's cut a deal with a production house that makes lower budget horror movies.
I guess we'll see how much demand there is once the box office numbers and reviews are in. I couldn't comment on that with certainty, although news of the movie being made did trigger some online response, including back here on Yea Forums, and to a larger degree on Yea Forums, since you mainly seem to care about Yea Forums's opinion on things.

>There's tons of characters that are more popular than Spawn, and still haven't been made into movies.
See now you're just shifting goalposts. People hadn't even heard of shit like Ant Man or Doctor Strange and yet they god greenlit first before Spawn did. Even ignoring big two, Scott Pilgrim, Kick Ass, even 300 got to the finish line first, and didn't have Spawn's brief 90s popularity nor push. Now you're acting pissy because you're realizing Spawn isn't as popular nor well received as you thought. Let me be clear; his book is a joke. He'd probably be worth talking about if Todd wasn't such a possessive autist.

Do you see now why I called you Todd? Because your attitude is just laughable regarding the subject.

>People hadn't even heard of shit like Ant Man or Doctor Strange and yet they god greenlit first before Spawn did.
Does it matter? It's just scraping the bottom of the barrel as you put it.
Let's hope for your sake that Spawn doesn't get a push in popularity like Ant-Man & Dr. Strange had. Idk what you'd do.
>Now you're acting pissy because you're realizing Spawn isn't as popular nor well received as you thought.
I never said Spawn was popular or well received. What I said is that he isn't as dead in the water as you think he is, and he objectively isn't. This isn't about personal bias, it's about facts.
>Let me be clear; his book is a joke.
This is the kind of attitude that I AM pissy about. It's natural to be irritated by this kind of holier-than-thou attitude, since you're essentially telling me what to like, what not to like, what's good, and what isn't. That's why I replied to your post in the first place.
Here's what I can tell you for a fact, your bias against Spawn is stronger than my bias in favor of him. You're the one who is being a possessive autist, because if you weren't, you would've let this discussion go the moment I provided you proof that Spawn's book has readers.
>Because your attitude is just laughable regarding the subject.
Realistically, you wouldn't have argued with me for so long if my attitude was indeed laughable. Seeing as how serious you're taking this, I don't think you're doing it purely for entertainment.

>Does it matter?
It does because it was relevant to our discussion, genius. Also it's not my fault you have poor taste in comics. If you want to read spooky style shit, read Mignola for fuck sake. Furthermore, you pretending to be the bigger man here is kinda hilarious, so do please keep going. I'm waiting.

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>It does because it was relevant to our discussion, genius.
You just got butthurt that I used your own logic against you. It's "relevant" to the discussion as long as it's in support of your own statements.
There isn't anything much you can do aside from tell me that the book is shit, and guide me to the masterworks of Mignola, like the biggoted faggot that you are. I've read Mignola and I've read Spawn, I like them both. I can like whatever the fuck I want, and you have no choice but to accept it, because that's how life works. People WILL hold different opinions to your own, buttercup.
That's about 150 characters more than what you deserve as a response at this point. I hope you appreciate that.

>You just got butthurt
>The rest of that post
So the irony is lost on you, no? Get back on that movie, Todd.

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>So the irony is lost on you, no?
Let me tell you where the real irony is. Spawn is jumping on the capeshit cinematic bandwagon by being a 10mil detective/drama flick with some horror elements thrown in the mix.
I bet the Avengers audience will eat that shit right up.
Post more reaction images of fat men laughing though. It's a pissing contest at this point.

There you go again acting trying act like the "adult" when it's clear your pissy someone doesn't like your character. Notice how we're the only two posting in this thread anymore? That should tell you something about how people care about Spawn. I've got a pair of shoes, does that make you happy? And I think you mean the Venom audience.

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>the comics are mostly just al jerking off in an alleyway whining about WANDA
I didn't like the hbo series for this same reason. If it wasn't for burke, twitch and violator i wouldn't look twice at it. Fuck al. And fuck wanda

>I've got a pair of shoes, does that make you happy?
Yes. Thank you.
>your pissy someone doesn't like your character.
Like I said, I was pissy with your holier than thou attitude. You might think you have some control over what people want to consume, but you don't, and it clearly irks you.
And no I didn't mean the Venom audience, but I think it went over your head completely.
Let me explain this is a more simplified fashion, like the adult that I am.
If Spawn was jumping on the capeshit bandwagon, it would've been a PG action special effects extravaganza, like 99% of all other superhero movies.
I also wanna return to what I previously said in one of my responses. You are actively caring more about Spawn than me by pure force of bias alone. All I wanted to do was enlighten you (adult style) on the fact that Spawn does have readers, and by extension people who care about the character. It's that simple. Obviously you wanna make it as clear as you can that the character is shit, but you're sounding like a broken record at this point. Like you said, it's only the two of us in this thread, so I don't think you'll be able to sway many people's opinions. I suggest we agree to disagree on the character and call it a day.

Todd the long posts aren't helping your case here, and it all boils down you having the last word so you can walk away feeling like "won" the conversation or some other weird shit.

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Gunpla aren't figures of people, you idiot

>aren't helping your case here
Yes they are.
>so you can walk away feeling like "won" the conversation or some other weird shit.
You're blatantly gonna act like you're not trying to win the argument yourself?
The only argument you've been winning so far has been the fictional one in your head. I get it, you think the character is shit, you want to make that clear, you want me to agree. I completely understand. But the initial argument was that Todd McFarlane is making threads shilling the character because people don't care about him. The fact that the comic sells should tell anyone else otherwise. that's the real argument my guy.

Are you 10?

>inb4 he calls me out on samefagging

Right because no one samefags with a phone....

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>Children playing with Spawn figures.

Those comics were for adults!

As was the Toxic Avenger. They done both of em dirty. Fuck money, amirite?