Where and why did the whole 'Woman with a fruit basket' thing come from? I assume it's a Latin American thing, but why is it such a staple in cartoons?
Also post more cartoon chicks with fruit baskets.
Where and why did the whole 'Woman with a fruit basket' thing come from? I assume it's a Latin American thing...
Wyatt White
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Parker Young
Carmen Miranda
David Adams
Carmen Miranda, an actress from Brazil specifically.
Easton Edwards
did grandma get fucked by the reindeer ?
Leo Brown
Looked her up, interesting. It's strange how cartoons disseminate cultural icons and ideas to people who would never have heard of the origins of them.
Alexander Scott
>Where and why did the whole 'Woman with a fruit basket' thing come from? I assume it's a Latin American thing, but why is it such a staple in cartoons?
Latin-American music was huge in the states in the 50s, Desi Arnaz, "Cuban Pete" and all that. I imagine a lot of boomers' first sexual awakening was seeing some woman with a fruit hat back-up-belly-dancing on the Ed Sullivan Show or somesuch, and it probably got parodied in some Merry Melodies short I can't remember, so the result was a generation or two of animators referring back to that imagery.
It's kinda like how cartoons used to be obsessed with the Mambo, another holdover from that era, but by the 90s even when it was referenced, it's a joke about how old and out-of-touch Goofy is compared to Max.
I don't think you see many people referencing that stuff nowadays as those older animators have retired, the last cartoon I can remember doing the fruit-bowl-hat thing was the luau episode of Phineas & Ferb.
Nolan Myers
Luke Jenkins
Nolan Hernandez
I always thought it's a reference to Chiquita Bananas logo.
Brayden Rogers
Beat me to it
Connor Clark
>OP is a filthy zoomer.
Joseph Wright
Yes, but OP was genuinely curious about older media, and asked an appropriate question, making him a zoomer that wants to expand his mind.
Levi Miller
Luis Nguyen
>tfw you'll never be haunted by Carmen Miranda's ghost in space station 13
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Lucas Mitchell
Mostly because she's doing it in space station 3?
Lucas Bell
Daffy dressing as Carmen Miranda is most likely a direct reference to:
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when you consider that the whole point of that short is Daffy showcasing the alleged talents of his child actor client.
Sebastian Johnson
The rabbit hole goes deeper it seems
David Robinson
I've actually got a model sheet from Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog which specifies Carmen Miranda, which I thought was fairly impressive.
Chase Long
hot
Justin Williams
huh, there's a whole book about it. I thought it was just a quirky song.
I kind of wonder what that'll mean for the human race when the ghosts of generations past start taking off for space?
Ryder Cook
also hot
Tyler Peterson
Popular culture/Hollywood in those days also romanticized Mexico a lot. It wasn't associated with cartel beheadings in those days.
Asher Baker
When's the last time you saw a Peter Lorre reference in a cartoon? I think it's been a while.
Michael Cooper
>I don't think you see many people referencing that stuff nowadays as those older animators have retired, the last cartoon I can remember doing the fruit-bowl-hat thing was the luau episode of Phineas & Ferb.
That was probably some Millenial animator who wanted to do a homage to oldskool animation or something.
Carson Hall
Connor Price
Hotel Transilvania I think?
That or Boo Berry.
Wyatt Price
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Didn't live too long.
Juan Cook
Kevin Stewart
Good to see those Thirteeniggers are now willing to admit that their space station's ghosts are shit compared to the ones us Threeroes have.
Gabriel Taylor
That's because this was before the US and CIA meddled with south america.
Carter Moore
I always wanted to fuck that short haired chick
Mason Davis
US and British involvement in Latin America goes back to the 19th century. Uruguay literally exists because Britain didn't want either Brazil or Argentina to control the mouth of the Rio de la Plata.
Ayden Anderson
Take anvils, for example. The vast majority of people today would only know that as some metal object that gets dropped on cartoon characters' heads.
Bugs Bunny's iconic catchphrase "What's up, Doc?" was itself originally a reference.
More people are familiar with "Groucho glasses" than they are with Groucho himself.
Jaxson Wright
>Before
You ever wondered why the Marines Hymn is called 'Halls of Montezuma'?
Daniel Moore
Dominic Bell
People still draw cartoon characters holding brown paper bags, or using them as masks, I'm 26 years old and have never seen seen them IRL, only plastic bags.
Colton Mitchell
>you've never seen a brown paper bag
This is a troll, right?
Ian Rogers
>Never seen a brown paper bag
I don't know where you live but if you ever go grocery shopping or to a market there's probably at least one fruit stand that would have brown paper bags.
Jason Brooks
>/Thread
Can we go home now?
Parker Gomez
You're here forever
Jace Nelson
Latin America was always a shithole, it's just that you didn't have LiveLeak videos back then and people didn't see the slums in Rio (protip: they were always there and people like CM were upper class white Brazilians).
Liam Nelson
Anthony Thompson
It used to be joked that Bolivia ran at 33 RPM (Revolutions Per Minute).
Jacob Morris
Hah
Ryan Davis
Bugs eating a carrot was a reference to Clark Gable in It Happened One Night.
Nolan Perez
Before the CIA there was Chiquita. Or like it was called back then, United Fruit.
Nathaniel Cox
;_;
Logan Gutierrez
By that point, the US had already had a two decade long military occupatiom of Nicaragua under its belt.
Samuel Martin
The thing you have to understand about Latin American history is that the place was founded as a resource extraction economy for Spain and Portugal. The white European ruling class whipped the black/Indian/meszito masses into mining and growing sugarcane. So a real middle class and industrial base never developed.
During colonial times, they were also barred from trading with anyone but the mother country. When the Napoleonic Wars happened, local elites took advantage to declare independence so they could do business with anyone they wanted and not pay taxes to Madrid. Britain wholeheartedly supported Latin American independence so they could conduct commerce there.
Post-independence however nothing changed that much socially, the place remained a resource extraction economy designed to supply the US and Europe and enrich the white ruling class.
Asher Anderson
Austin Martinez
Chase Miller
It's strange to think there was a time when you had to explain what a banana was to a general audience.
Nathaniel Thompson
Carson Brooks
real question now:
did brazilians actually go around wearing fruit hats, was this their fashion
or was carmen miranda the only one
Sebastian Collins
Imagine being on the bridge and seeing yourself surrounded by Carmen Miranda Ghost's ghost vagina.
Xavier Hughes
>character in cartoon watches TV or uses a landline phone
>character uses computer with large cube-shaped crt monitor
>kids age 0 - 12 have no idea what those are
Really makes you think...
Owen Garcia
the word 'nimrod' is used as an insult 100% due to bugs bunny
when bugs called elmer 'poor little nimrod', he was referencing a character from the bible, a hunter
but nobody who saw the cartoon got the reference and just assumed it was an insult
similarly, poindexter means a nerd solely because of felix the cat
Joseph Clark
Nobody under the age of 65 is going to be remotely familiar with Carmen Miranda outside of asking this very same question at some point and being given the same answer, and maybe watching a clip of her on youtube or something
Logan Adams
>tfw I saw some Groucho glasses being sold as "nerd glasses"
Not gonna lie, I died inside a little.
Liam Brooks
While the noun and verb 'cringe' has been around for a very long time, the phrase 'Cringeworthy' originated as the name of a character in the UK comic 'The Beano'.
Carson Gomez
's ghost is haunting, space station 3
Benjamin Evans
Sauce?
Jace Flores
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Her name is Katella the Huntress, from the old Sonic cartoon.
Aiden Martinez
A white brazilian.
Wow.
Carson Nguyen
"Maroon" wound up being used as an insult because people missed the joke of Bugs mispronouncing "moron".
Aiden Edwards
Carmen Miranda is only tangentially Yea Forums-related, but her sister...
John Wood
>CIA
A LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A HIRED GUN
Christopher Lee
I always find the conceptualization of this film intriguing. Just the idea that in order to get the South Americans on-board with fighting that Hitler bloke RKO would just make a whole bunch of films that feature them.
>Mr President, the Brazilian ambassador is still seeking assurances from us in order to send troops to Europe.
>Tell him if they send their boys over the Atlantic, we'll send them Donald Duck.
Tyler Robinson
Well, it's certainly tribute to Disney that it worked so well
>tfw the proposed sequel was going to have a Cuban bird
Austin Phillips
Anthony Robinson
Micky Rooney was so fucking weird looking.
Jackson Brown
And despite that he still managed to temporarily be the BIGGEST STAR. IN THE WOOOOORLDDDD,
Brayden James
Their boys fought well
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Ayden Gutierrez
His cigar was bigger than he was
Hudson White
Never denied that, just pointing out the quirks of filmaking.
Angel Richardson
I love how whimsical that badge is.
Henry Gray
It's based on an old Brazilian turn of phrase
Chase Gonzalez
Which is?
Don't give a snake your smokes?
Asher Hall
Aurora Miranda is cuter and directly Yea Forums related.
Nicholas Miller
I learnt something new today, thanks /co.
Jonathan Barnes
Evan Perez