Why is Vivzie insulting her fans like that?

Why is Vivzie insulting her fans like that?

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i wish you could get banned for making threads like this.

You know, thinking about it, I don't think there's a single way she could make Satan that hasn't already been done to death. He's already been portrayed as the following:

>a hulking giant demon
>a flamboyant gay demon
>a suave businessman
>a false prophet that looks like reverse-jesus
>a shadow that mimics whoever is looking at him (man is the real monster yada yada)

I mean really, I'd be surprised if she could come up with something.

what about a loser NEET who looks like gaben and just lets all the other demons "do whatever" while he sits in his room and plays video games all day?

you also forgot 'abstract satan' and prettyboy/fallen angel satan.

also rock god satan.

What about a big guy with a mask?

If I took it off would he die?

If it isn't frozen from the waist below and gurgle bloody foam, it's shit in my book.

Like the Twain Satan?

gurgling*

anyway, I don't feel like I've seen anyone try to put a creative spin on classic Satan proper in a while

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I saw something like that in a manga.

Just make him look like an angel

Ya know, everyone in hell looks like furfag/degenerate and big boss is "normal"

Loli satan

Pretty sure angels in this setting are futuristic ASIMO-like robots. Otherwise though, sounds good. Bonus points if he doesn't introduce himself or anything, guy just shows up and you can tell something's up since he's the only one who doesn't look like a lunatic.

Sauce for pic?

It's only right.
Any fan of her's deserves to be insulted for having such bad taste.

Not only does she draw like one, but she also sounds just like one of those whiney tweeny-bopper deviantart "zomg bishi!" cunts.

EXTERLIEN for the MSX

While I do appreciate her calling twitter retards "retards" in plain english she's going to get herself lynched.

BASED

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you're the only retard here

Seconding the petition to make starting threads with a twitter post an instant ban offense.

Why did i know this was really Mephistopheles?

>are futuristic ASIMO-like robots.
That's because angels in Christianity are AIs created and programmed by God. They're not born or evolved like the former humans or later generations of demons in Hell. As a fallen angel, Satan should have some resemblance to the others.

>tick skull

Point taken. He's got at least two (biological?) kids somehow so I just assumed they weren't going the robot Satan route.

We don't have 'racist caricature' Satan yet, do we?

Hi.I work as a cleanup animator on Hazbin Hotel and I honestly have had enough bullshit.I tried to stay quiet till not but I just can't stand this anymore.
Do you guys have personal problem with Vivzie or something? Why do you keep attacking her like that? She hasn't done a thing to you.Or are you just jealous that you're not as popular or talented as she is?
Vivzie went to an art school,she worked really hard and managed to create her own animated series.If you want to criticize her,at least provide ACTUAL criticism and not just foul language and cursing.
And to all the haters of Hazbin Hotel - guess what? The show won't get canceled.Our team is working really hard and it's gonna come out soon enough,so what are your thoughts on this? Just because you're hating on it to no end,this won't stop the pilot from coming out.
In fact,you haters are only less than a half a dozen compared to those who are excited and happy to see the project coming through.
Oh,and to that guy who keeps posting fake tweets screencaps of Viv - get a life,please! I honestly didn't expect that you'd stoop so low as to make up false claims just to ruin her reputation.I can take a joke,but this is just too much .I suggest you'd stop until you get in more trouble.

>If it isn't frozen from the waist below and gurgle bloody foam, it's shit in my book.
Well your book isen't canon to the bible so fuck off with your self insert fan fiction isekai shit.

Tl;dr

What about a literal classic angel like he's supposed to be? Not girly, not villain cliches, no monsters.

The bible describe Lucifer as the perfect angel,

The bible doesnt describe Lucifer. No, King Jame's trollsubs dont count as the bible.

>106082110
When are you going to do cleanup om the noose tutorial animation?

Satan, but he looks like a father along the lines of Hugh Neutron or Dexter's dad.

is this bait?

>The bible describe Lucifer as the perfect angel,
Actually it doesn't describe him at all
"Lucifer" in the bible is a Mesopotamian king.
The Lucifer in the bible being Satan wasn't a thing until the 15th century

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So you're saying the bible is just jews talking shit about non-jews and retard goys fall for it too?

One thing I've never seen is a setting where hell and demons are canon, but Satan actually isn't, like he's just a made up religious icon concocted to explain why hell and demons exist when the real explanation is unknown or more complicated.

>Looks like you're going to the pits of suffering jimbo.

That is exactly what the old testament is. They literally have the excuse as to why they loss several battles because Iron Chariots apprently are gods Kryptonite.

It's a bunch of medieval Europeans taking ancient greek and israelite texts and rewriting them to suit their insane lust for power and violence

I think nobody ever did Satan the Dante way
>Immensely huge
>Alone
>Encased in ice from the waist down
>Three faces, each weeping
>His mouths devouring Judas, Brutus and Cassius for all eternity
>Enormous wings that beat glacial winds all around him and freeze the waters and sinners in the last circle of hell
It's so fucking awesome that all layers of hell are fire and brimstone but at the very bottom it's just ice and isolation.

But I like the way the Constantine movie did him as a sharply dressed man in white with filthy feet.

>this obviously mentally unstable individual is in charge of an animated series

Ill give it another year before the entire project falls apart because of her alone.

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Aku and Charlie have a meeting. What happens.

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The thing is that short of our boy Sprout, Satan was said to be an upper tier angel but not exactly what kind of angel he was. For all we know he could have looked like the angel that appeared to david with a face of jade and a body of electrum.

Other timesmhe is a serpenr or a multiheaded dragon, at least if revelations is being literal. Still, there is the reptillian theme going on.

As the only angel to directly wuestion god I imagine there is some majesty going on there.

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Wasn't Dracula like that in a Marvel comic or something?

Nah it will make a ton of money. Visual arts is a field where the least you deserve success the higher you get

Any criticism will be deflected with "it's muh style" bullshit. Star vs is a cringe fest and still better than this show.

>her

awful LARP

What about have him live in radio and television, entertainment in general.

If true how the fuck could an anonymous person on Yea Forums get in trouble for posting edits? You expect to dox him or sue him?

>And to all the haters of Hazbin Hotel - guess what? The show won't get canceled
Of course it's not. It'll get cancelled after having a miseably bad single season. Your drama queen boss obviously lacks the creative talent and emotional maturity to handle the media pressure as making a show on television isn't same as trying to cater furries or fursonas on internet.

I know this is just bait but I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually real.

Wheels within wheels with six wings and eyes all over?

YHWH functioning as a war-god actually helps justify a lot of that. They lost that battle because they lost God's favor.

Wow, an hazbin employee has shady bitcoin money to buy a tripname. I wonder why

Nobody is so supportive of their work.
This shit is bait.

This would be far better than Pan the most Harmless of all greek deities.

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Satan but he's a Loli.

Because they deserve it.

Well, there's only the one part that has fire and Brimstone. Overall it gets colder as you go deeper, as a metaphor for being further from God's light.

DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS

you are not supposed to tell your fans you haven't even bothered starting to design one of the most important characters
nor tell them
>i won't do the job, it'll be a mistery teehee

it would be extremely painful

Sure, I'll offer constructive criticism.

Concept - Hazbin Hotel has a very shoddy concept, it doesn't seem to make "sense" to make a rehab 'hotel' for demons in actual hell. When ever depiction of hell seems to relish demons interfighting,torture, despair and all that jazz.

Hell is a glorified monster-city that has some nice demon designs sprinkled in but nothing is coherent. It doesn't mesh things like say Amazing World of Gumball does well.

Charlie is some revolutionary yet there is little to any kind of world-building as shown yet in the shorts. Just Hell is a monster-city with a crime/gang problem and everyone is a mini cartoon villain.

Characters - I get its a zany over the top cartoonish comedy but so many of the characters seem to be a blender full of rando traits and personalities. Angel Dust is probably the worst offender of this, he's just all over the place personality wise. Along with that, many of the characters have eye-bleeding over-detailed designs that I imagine as an animator is absolute hell to deal with. Vizie has a past history of ripping off other people's characters/designs to boot.

Charlie is a bit too perfect, Vaggie is a TERRIBLE name and kind of an annoying character, Alastor is so obviously the big baddie - ect. Dont even get me started on that eye-sore snake demon.


Vizie - She has had her share of drama (lol who hasnt) but the whole stealing/tracing doesn't look favorable on her part. Along with the lack of emotional maturity and PR ability to sustain a long-running internet series.

Honestly her first hell concept with the dog-demon boy was way better then Hazbin Hotel but I can see how it ticks off desires of alot of tweens/teens on social media.
All in all, the concept and characters seem really rushed. Things don't seem polished or even finalized and visually it can be painful to watch. Having colors beyond hot pink,yellow,red,black and white would be nice.

>Do you guys have personal problem with Vivzie or something
i'm just mad she isn't breastfeeding me right now

Are you that furry who likes to pimp on the fact that you're dating Angel's voice actor?

You need to wake up and realize how terrible vivzie is. She rips off designs and acts like a dramatic entitled cunt. Noone will care about hazbin years from now. Also you sound alot like vivzie if you can’t handle anyone talking badly about hazbin. Heavenforbid anons talk about it away from social media. But vivzie’s ego is so fragile that she has to silence anyone who talks about her.

The projection is strong with this one.

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Nice fake tweet

Devilman did it

She knows her audience.

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what a cunt

what the fuck are you doing here posting real tweets? get the fuck out

Wow. That’s harsh
Make Satan a manlet. That’d be hilarious.

How the fuck do you know they're real?

So,who tf do you think you are?
Did you know that Maxwell Atoms himself (creator of Billy and Mandy) approved of Hazbin Hotel and even provided voices for some background characters.

14 hours late but the best possible gag would have him just look like a really shitty, generic costume-tier satan
give him the shitty pitchfork and full-body red suit, just to contrast with how overdesigned every other demon is, and have everyone scared shitless of him despite looking like the bargin-bin costumes at the halloween store

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Judges 1:19 directly contradicts your interpretation.

Satan is this guy

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They'd have to have Judas be a main cast regular, with guest appearances by Brutus & Cassius.
Like a typical "smart guy with two big lackeys".

>one of the most important characters
Satan would probably be important to the history of the setting, but there's no indication that he would have anything to do with the current story. For consideration, God would be even more important in that sense.

Pretty much this lol. Even the animators are getting lots of Youtube/Patreon buxs for leeching off the series and it's drama. If anything she should embrace the publicity, good or bad because she's just gonna get attention for it.

DESU Billy and Mandy had alot more cringe then golden moments in it.

>Namefag
You seriously wasted money to create this fucking stupid bait post?

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>Imagine being a namefag
>Imagine caring about what any namefag has to say
>Imagine writing all that shit without a TL;DR
>Imagine wanting others to read all that shit
Yeah, whatever you say retard

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>Written like a child
Obviously bait

How about a wolf in sheep's clothing? I don't think I have ever seen Satan be portrayed as such? I mean it's even biblical.

>"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's. clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."-Matthew 7:15

But then again I doubt Vivzie is that clever.

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Thats a damn good idea, but what if Satan appeared in a myriad of different forms but is never stated until the end that he does this? It would mean he could travel Hell, without people freaking out or trying to suck up to him.

>106082110
This is totally incoherent. Not even a (You)

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Most people ITT don't seem to know this, but OP has been making threads with fake Vivzie (and other Yea Forums people) tweets for a while. I don't know what the fuck his endgame is but the mods don't seem to care because these threads never get deleted.
I'm just here to remind you to report and ignore.

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because this one is actually on her twitter? holy shit you're fucking retarded and so is everyone else in this thread

That costs now?

>it's a "Yea Forums whines but will still watch the show" episode
RWBY
Summer Camp Island
Hazbin Hotel
Steven Universe
are all on the lines of "Shit shows that only get attention on this stupid fucking board because retards watch it and praise it despite it being literal garbage pumped out only to make money off sad saps"

>Hi.I work as a cleanup animator on Hazbin Hotel
Sure you are I completely believe you. And I work as a moderator on Yea Forums and I've seen post similar to this one on other threads like these. I suggest you'd stop before you get in more trouble for spamming.

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There isn't a show at this point, user. It's not even a question of watching.

A broken wheel.

How about making him like the usual skyscraper sized hulking demon but cover his skin from head to toe with repulsive rashes, have his lips rotted of so his jagged bloodstained teeth and inflamed gums are exposed,and cover him in noticeable scars.

>His mouths devouring Judas, Brutus
I honestly don't believe those two deserved it. How would Jesus complete his mission if there wasn't a "judas" to betray him? I don't blame Brutus for being afraid of Caesar's power either and feeling the need to kill him because of it.

You'd like Jesus Christ Superstar

She's actually acting more respectful here than the creators and actors who work for giant corporations though.

>tfw the standard for respect and professionalism has fallen so low that openly calling your audience "fucking retards" doesn't even register as a big deal

Brie Larson and all the showrunners of modern Star Wars don't even consider the target demographic for their movies to be human.

t. seething incel

Yea Forums is incredibly fucking retarded they always fall for fake tweets
>sage

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>Best friend abuses public favor and military power to establish himself as the permanent dictator of your country.
>Entire culture and history defined by misuse of power by kings and emperors; literally fought wars for centuries to establish a semi-democratic government designed specifically to limit the amount of power a leader could practically impose.
>Against your better wishes and powerful foes, go against your friend and assassinate him.
>Forever remembered as a traitor by people who read one-half of a play by Shakespeare and forgot most of it.

Being Brutus is suffering

>whiteknighting your scene girl deviantart princess

Satan is many things, but he's man's constant companion. His best friend, if you will.

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Seriously, this is by far the best depiction of Satan in animation.

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I'm not whiteknighting shit you absolute fucking faggot, this is a garbage bait thread and there's no reason it should be up for this long. It would be bad enough if the tweet wasn't fake.

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Uh oh, isn't retard a no-no word in the Hysterically Politically Correct States if Orwellian Mind Control?
Will she be jailed for this hate crime?

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Hell's closed due to AIDS

>Satan is so far removed from any other demon that he should logically stand out the most and have a unique, creative design
>This faggot looks like basically any and every other jackoff in this godforsaken show and reeks of fujoshit pornbait

I'm still happy this exists so I can watch it with my friends and laugh at how fucking awful it'll be, but fuck the designs are so bad. What does this tell you about Satan that makes him different from every other fucking retard in this abortion? Absolutely nothing. This is actually even worse than the other designs, it looks like a shitty HH fan character instead of an actual one.

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can it extend to instagram and other social media

That is Dracula in the Netflix series, he just wants everything to be over lol

No one's topping Mark Twain on this one.
youtube.com/watch?v=BpaRouocBes

That sounds like Forrest Kaysen. What a fucking piece of work that dude was.

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READ NIGGA
READ

actually wait i get what you're trying to say now

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This game is horrifying.

He would actually look like the Simpsons comic book guy. Remember, he's completely convinced he's superior to God despite getting kicked the fuck out of Heaven and has spent this whole time being petty and fucking with God's toys in defiance.

In visual arts the more of a hack you are and the shittier your product the more money you will make. Work ethic, professionalism, quality and original ideas will give you minimum wage if you're lucky.

which show/anime/comic is that?

spoilers:satan is god

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>retards
wow what a specialedphobe

youtube.com/watch?v=Iw9BF5SXJvs

make satan this normal looking human just to contrast with how overdesigned every other demon is. Make him super chill and helpful (maybe thats where Charlie gets it from) but everyone is scared shitless of him

The one type of Satan I wanted to see was a neurotic salaryman trying to keep everything working right but every once in a while goes full rage mode like Aggretsuko. Officially he’s a figurehead since it seems Vivzie’s hell is laissez faire in politics. All the other demons and evils own their territories but he’s the guy that keeps the general infrastructure up such as demon conversion, official death tallies during culling, keeping the numbers in check etc. If they wanted to throw some Dante’s Inferno refrences, have him be a Dilbert looking milksop glued to his desk in an icy blue office chair, chewing on a silver 3 Color pen with named Judas/Brutus/Cassius souls being used as ink as he keeps his office room chilly to prevent his supercomputer from overheating. His tears and sweat is actually from the hard labor of trying to keep hell efficient so he can prove he’s a better micromanager than God was or ever will be.

Not The Devil in biblical way but a japanese demon.

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Fucking Demiurge, i hate this guy!

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>Satan as a depress man that just want to have a break.
I could see that working.

fpwp, r*ddit's down the hall.

>Hi.I work as a cleanup animator on Hazbin Hotel
Well you aren't really doing a good job because it looks like shit.

Poor user

Thats not constructive criticism, thats just bitching.

Her style is the worst fucking shit. It’s everything I hate about the “quirky and zany nerdy tumblr art girl” cliche

Yeah, but she seems very ambitious. I wonder how far she'll go.

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I could make a better show and I’m still in college. Hell, I guarantee Yea Forums would like whatever I could shit out a lot more than this boring ass Tumblr shit

She’s already pretty far as far as internet animators go. She’s in like every reanimate collab. As much as I dislike her style, she has a following

This is actually fucking clever.

>ripping off
now I remember why I saved this...

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Cus she is still a furfag from furranity/deviantart

>Still giving a fuck about this plagiarism when both are trash
C'mon now, at least be angry if she traced over something GOOD.

Obvious bait aside, you don’t need to work all that hard to get an animated show. Hell, I’ve pitched a show out of morbid curiosity and I have no college or education to speak of. I can’t even draw. The experience taught me just how easy it is if you just find the right email address on corporate websites

>Hell, I’ve pitched a show out of morbid curiosity and I have no college or education to speak of.
>I can’t even draw.
Ian Jones-Quartey, is that you?

Fuk u demiurge

This is Charlie's original design

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Judas never redeemed himself like based Peter.

Fuk u demiurge

>you retards
Based and redpilled.

Best satan is mark twains satan

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Cinnamon roll Charlie's better, IMHO.

then fucking do it and stop complaining, faggot.