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He was unironically the coolest character in the movie. Spiderverse's rendition of Prowler was such a huge upgrade from Ultimate's, actually giving him an identity beyond "using stolen villain tech." And man, that costume design — just so cool. And his theme is pure kino too: youtu.be
I usually hate it when comics change characters to match movie adaptations, but I would be 100% on board with Prowler getting changed.
He also wasn't a complete piece of garbage like Ultimate Aaron. His death came about his protection of Miles rather than actively engaging fighting Miles.
the character really wasnt that different. He was just less of a piece of shit
Loved those horror movie sound effects following him around.
>"don't listen to that hobo friend of yours, Miles. go fuck that jap girl you hang out with. Now, If you'll excuse me, I have to go meet this fine redhead who just got out of a rocky relationship."
My favorite part is how the elephant noise was incorporated into What's Up Danger.
I've seen fanart of Uncle Aaron kissing MJ's ass but I don't have it, anyone have it?
I kind wish his mask was more form fitting instead of occasionally getting baggy and bunching up at the bottom.
You're right about his theme song though. probably one of the better villain leitmotifs I've ever heard.
>cock like a fuckin' elephant trunk, Miles. how do you think I make those elephant sounds?
>the character really wasnt that different. He was just less of a piece of shit
Humanizing a villain can automatically make them endearing enough to cause people to invest in them. What that means for prowler is that he goes from a total asshole to an understandable one. So when he gives himself up for miles you understand his motivation unlike ultimate where hes just a pale imitation of villains who make sense to be irredeemable.
This guy's facial proportions reminded me of Mr. Rzykruski from Frankenweenie.
It also makes the scene where he learns Miles is Spider-Man more tense and the character overall more narratively engaging, because the audience doesn't know what he's going to do. Is he enough of a scumbag that he'll kill his own nephew? The way he pulls Miles' mask back on almost seems like he's covering Miles' face up so that he doesn't have to look at it as he kills him.
Why are you retards obsessed with cuck fetish?
>this MJ is single and her man is fukken dead
>cucking
I loathe miscegenation but literally what are you talking about?
Same. Underrated character whenever these threads are made.
I mean, I know why, but still.
why the fuck are you so upset? insecure faggot.
Looks like I struck a nerve.
What did you guys think of the post-credits scene?
How's it hanging, Frozone? Like a moose?
>The way he pulls Miles' mask back on almost seems like he's covering Miles' face up so that he doesn't have to look at it as he kills him.
Do you think this scene was more or less tense to people familiar with Ultimate Prowler?
>trailer shows Miles chasing Prowler
>entire movie is Miles running from Prowler while scared shitless
I've said this before, but it was a good call, definitely made him stand out a hell of a lot more.
Huh I read the feel as him covering Miles' face so kingpn wouldn't see it
>implying Peni isnt lusting after Boomer Peter and his cute belly
Hope they play a big role in the sequel
The marketing was amazing in how much it didn't spoil things. I wasn't even thinking about how obvious it was for Peter A to inevitably die until it happened, and this was partly because the marketing didn't even acknowledge him. The Olivia twist was surprising, because they marketing featured her just enough to let you know she's important, and the "quirky female scientist" shtick makes it seem like she's going to be helping the protagonists out, but instead she's Doc Fucking Ock.
hey wouldn't it be cool if the Spot was the villain for the next Spiderverse movie ha ha
Stop flirting with your nephew
God, this made my boipussy so moist.
It's going to be Ock. Gwen was fighting OCk when she got snatched up and Liv is unaccounted for at the end of the movie. We'll probably even get a Superior as our next spider-crew member.
>the holes can lead to alternate dimensions
fund it
That's what he actually was doing, but in the moment there's still that uncertainty. If he was going to double down and decide to kill him, rejecting the face reveal and pulling down the mask can come across as forcing himself to ignore that it's Miles.
I hope OG Spiderman is the star
>Spider-Man: Into the Octagon
okay so Gwen's Doc Ock and Liv team up to send her back to Miles' dimension so she doesn't fucking disintegrate, also other Doc Ocks help them out(PS4 Otto, Lady Octopus and Raimi's Doc Ock)
>Liv decides to pull a Superior because she can't keep her body from disintegrating and has to steal a body to survive
Slott plz go.
Your husband isn't a movie worthy hero.
I'm not sure how well they can do a Spock without having setup Otto in the first one. Something like sounds pretty believable though.
Awww man I'm upset I missed that. I went to go see it an early morning so I was the only one in the theater. But I got up when the credits were rolling because a staff member waiting to clean was just standing there staring at me.
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that AI girl looks cute
well I was just putting it out there
That's their take on Lyla, Miguel's AI buddy.
I like her
also they could make it work, maybe she pulls a Superior on that universe's Otto?
>Gender bender
>But it's FTM
Wasted.
yeah well it would be the same if she did it with someone who isn't female
Female to male is the only acceptable TF/Genderswap
Pointing is bad, and wrong-hearted!
Thank you user. That was pretty good.
Heathen.
THE JOKE WAS NEVER FUCKING FUNNY DAD STOP I FUCKING HATE YOUR STUPID DUMB FUCKING PUNS YOU MORONIC FUCKING INGRATE
WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST BE A BIT NICER THEN MAYBE MOM AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN A DIVORCE YOU FUCKWIT
He isn't the one that sounds insecure.
If a black slave dingo has sexual intercourse with a hwhite female he is in fact cucking the hwhite man who in potentia could be having the sexual intercourse hwith her instead. Is this not obvious to you?
WHERE IS MY SUPER SUIT
They made Mr Clean an African American? Interesting.
Based
>user is so paranoid about getting cucked he forgot how to type.
HE'LL NEVER APPEAR IN ANY NEW ADAPTATIONS BECAUSE OF THIS SHITTY BENDIS CHARACTER
FUCK
Except he was in two cartoons. m.youtube.com
The comic version was based off Marilyn Monroe. Although no one in 2099 gave a shit about her, she's hot.
I love that the Howl still continues after finding him out because he's about to fucking kill miles
I literally said "Holy fuck" in the movie theater.
As someone that's always loved Prowler and wished he got some time in the limelight, I was more than happy with this. The only downside was that he got Uncle Ben'd hard so he'll never come back, but damn was it good while it lasted.
>bottle of shampoo falls on my pinky toe in the shower
>it's broken
>tell my mom
>"you know what we need to do?"
>mom please no
>"call a tow truck"
>All of these fucking HQ rips of the movie
>Literally no rips, not even a WEBM with sound of the news broadcast after spider-mans death
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This scene was kino as fuck
Spiderverse really had a ton of characters in it. I feel like they did a pretty good job with Prowler, but I also wish that other characters were developed a bit better. I still think it would be better movie if Penny didn't exist.
If you're gonna have a Looney Tunes Peter Parker you have to have an anime waifu Peter Parker.
I finished watching it like an hour ago, it's hard to believe that these are the same people behind the MCU version, and at the same time you can see the similarities with The Lego Movie from the writer and the animation style.
The post-credits was also golden and at the same time probably a huge blue ball.
>the Raimi-man 3 dance sketch at the beginning and credits
My fucking sides. Benis inserted his name too much tho.
I flipped when I saw 2099
fuck me this was so good. I regret not seeing it at the cinema
I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW IT
I really did, I just fucking likve 2099 ok don't judge
It's kinda hilarious how much better Miles is written here in comparison to any Bendis story. Even his father was way, way better on the movie.
It's almost like Bendis is a hack
>Peter B. Parker comes from Earth-616
Is there something I missed? Because this guy sure as hell doesn't look like canon Spidey material.
I don’t even recall seeing Liv in any promotional images or clips.
I will say that I applaud whoever came up with the idea to completely edit her out of this clip: youtube.com
It felt so good to watch the full, uncut chase scene during the movie just after that epic, lewd reveal in the lab.
It's Earth 616 as seen from Spider-verse. Different orthonormal basis composition, same quantum state.
Into the Spider-Verse unironically "BROKE NEW GROUND" though.
Yeah, almost.
Almost.
funniest part of the entire movie.
God, they made him to handsome.
they have that fetish themselves
no one thinks about a subject that much like that
The movie single handedly improved both Miles and Aaron. They are much better characters than anything Bendis wrote.
Who pointed first?
Spider-Man.
I love the shapes and silhouette they gave him. So pleasing to look at.
Why don't you tell us your fetish so we can make fun of you
Pussy
Looney Tunes at least made an okay contrast with noir Peter. Penny was just obnoxious.
I honestly thought the stuff like the CD and Raimiverse references and all that were for Peter B, so I was surprised to find out they applied to Peter A.
Anyone have a link to a torrent for it? Havent seen it yet and this made me cry
Just use popcorn time, man.
You absolute liege. And some early design sketches note that his gloves are partially inspired by gorilla hands.
60's Spidey's VA made me want a new show animated just like that but with H Jon Benjamin voicing Peter
You don't see how vastly different they are from just a small change? Bendis' Aaron was an asshole who just decided to take advantage of Miles when he discovered Miles has Spider-powers. Spider-Verse Aaron hesitated once he discovered Miles was the Spider-Man he was told to kill.
I already knew from the comics that Aaron was Prowler so it wasn't a surprise in the movie, but the way they kept it a secret and unfolded it actually made it more compelling because it also added to both Miles and Aaron's characters for the same reasons and point out.
What the fuck man
This is true, I'm rereading Bendis' first issue and all I know about Miles is he just doesn't want to go to that private school, and he hangs out with his uncle whom his parents feel might be a bad influence. He's scared of the powers he gets, but we see him using his invisibility and venom blast already. There's concepts there but the execution is lacking.
Spider-Verse Miles, we see him share the same traits, but they unfold in interesting ways. Miles doesn't want to be at the school and tries his hardest to get out of it (by deliberately choosing the wrong answers, but that makes the teacher realize he knows the right answers). We also learn that he's interested in graffiti art, which informs a lot of the things he does and even makes his costume even more distinct. The invisibility and venom blast are used as things he has to learn to master and have a character arc as a result.
>she's still cucking me if I'm dead
That's just psychotic.
I don't get it why way his uncle evil?
So according to Yea Forums lore, Gwen and Peter are fucking, making MJ cuckqueen, Peni is lusting for BBC but also wants Noir to be her daddy, Miles wants to plow Muslim oysters and Bombshell, and Aaron is seeing MJ.
Did I get everything?
In all likelihood, it was just for the money.
How was she obnoxious? She was harmless.
Legs
I'M NOT SCARED
Yeah, Spiderverse film ain't connected to the comics (Unlike Spider PS4)
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>the doorbell is part of the score
The uncle and the dad grew up in a bad neighbourhood with nothing. The uncle became a supervillain for hire and got money that way. Miles' dad became a cop taking Kingpins dirty money on the side. That's how he knew where to go at the end.
I forgot, how did Aaron die in the comics?
His gauntlets explodes after a fight with Miles.
Fuck janitors
Heartfelt touch was that despite growing apart, Jefferson and Aaron had images of them both as phone backgrounds. Pic related is Aaron's, Jefferson has them as young adults standing by a bridge.
That's a copy
It's cute that Noir always gets a bass or chello and Gwen the drums of course, it makes me wish the movie had Spider-Punk so he could jam with them.
Hobie will probably make a cameo at least in Spiderverse 2
His universe is really stylish, I hope so. And an Anansi would be cool to see.
*Also
>Spider-man who did first, obviously!
It's worth noting that even 616 is off from our reality since Yugos were a popular car brand in Peter B's universe rather than going out of business.
kill
This movie honestly made me like Miles so much more than whatever crap Marvel tried to pull for years. Is the current on-going worth reading?
>Accidentally stumbled across the fic where that image was a tie-in
>MFW
Lost my shit along with everyone else in the theater, from kids to an elderly couple.
Just look for it in TPB.
Now, I usually don't go out of my way to make some minimum wagie's day miserable, but I paid for my ticket and I'll stay on my goddamn seat until the credits are over. Hell, with these types of movies you can just google "[movie] post credit scene" and see if you need to stick around
Between this, that part with Penny lowering her skirt, the names in Miles's phone(Jessica Drew among them), and a bunch of other things, there's so many little details that make it such a great movie when you pay attention.
>It's cute that Noir always gets a bass or chello and Gwen the drums
Well, they were shown with those in the credits.
Why do all the cool mentor figures have to die so early in a series...
Why are fujo girls so disgusting?
It's notable that Peter B's world was the one that had actual coca cola instead of the alternate kola Miles's universe had
The hell? I googled if there was a post credits scene before I left and the site I was on said no, this is an outrage
Prowler was easily one of the best parts of the movie. I mean, they pick one of the less important character from spider lore and actually made him not only good, but fucking scary.
I wish I could download the movie's artbook.
Yup. Shit was perfect
Miles' also had Clone University series, a Shawn of the Dead saequel and EA Watersports.
>EA Watersports
I can't take that word seriously anymore. I assume it meant like sports that are in the water games?
My bad, it's water /polo/.
Take a look at this blog, they collect like every instagram post by the concept artists of it:
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Uh, hi?
You fancy a ride with me?
>a Shawn of the Dead sequel
I guess no universe is perfect.
Could be the writers commenting on the fact that in our reality, Peter has gone back and forth on his character development. One minute he's married. The next, he's making deals with Mephisto because for some inexplicable reason no one in Peter's circle knows how to handle an old lady with a bullet wound. One moment, he's finally making money. The next, he's back to being a schlub. The cyclical nature of superhero comics, reliance on controversy, and the need to stick to a certain status quo really fucks with characterization.
My mistake, it's more like a slightly different movie pun name.
user...
Who the girl in the picture?
Well the use of Zombie Ed implies it's a sequel
Well obviously! Didn't you learn anything from reading all these alternate universe stories?
in a perfect world, EA wouldn't exist.
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> not posting the stitched version that combines all tracks that contain his revving/elephant
>Superior Spider-Gwen
Not a bad idea.
>Stan Lee finally gets to play J. Jonah Jameson
>dies
Well, at least he achieved that particular dream.
I had noticed they acknowledged the '60s cartoon during the credits, but I thought that was connected to an easter egg I must have missed.
Then I saw 2099 and got really excited.
Then it transitioned to the 2D animation and I couldn't stop laughing (only one in my theater though. This scene loses a lot of its oomph if you're a normie).
my theater erupted every time I went to see. Everyone understands 60 spidey.
I really liked making him Miles "Uncle Ben", good move. I wish they held on to the dad hating Spider-Man thing a bit longer. Having his own dad being the JJJ he had to deal with could have been interesting.
I hope 67 Spider-Man is in the sequel.
Hell yeah. This is the theme of an absolute unit.
wasnt he standing in a pool of gasoline from a damaged truck or something that caused the explosion?
HEY I HAVE A QUESTION: is this Mile's universe's Gwen? I remember watching the movie and thinking it was Spider-Gwen, but she had already lost her hair to Miles at this point right?
Okay but when the fuck are we getting the movie version of What's Up Danger?
HEAD LIKE A FUCKIN ORANGE
Going back through the movie to cap. When Peter A and Miles Spider sync is Miles' color pallet is the same as Prowler. Wonder if it was to show he's on the same path as Aaron
The way the camera is angled hides the shaved side of her head. It's just Spider-Gwen
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This track is amazing and it's only used for a comedy chase scene. Sounds like it belongs in Jet Set Radio
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WHO IN HERE'S TRYING TO START A RIOT?!
I GOTTA ELEPHANT
>The way the camera is angled hides the shaved side of her head. It's just Spider-Gwen
You can see the curls on the other side of her head though, just sticking out part her cheek.
Huh. Maybe they used the wrong model
Thanks doc
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hell yeah. God I love UNIT Kingpin, the design is both comical and dominating every scene it's in.
it's spider gwen, she's wearing the suit and ballerina shoes under the lab coat
Best song, quickly became a favorite on my workout playlist
I thought it was Gwen interning at Alchemax to spy on them for a way back home. No clue how she managed to forge herself and identity that quickly or get into Miles' school though.
Well it's concept art
Went to check the final copy. It's Spider-Gwen
Remember how everyone assumed she'd be a rebellious bitch character due to the shaved side? Never thought that'd be a story point.
She's actually the most down to earth and responsible. The hair cut is kinda cute too
what was it...?
I like her shoes
Yeah, her trying to keep calm vs. Peter B.'s "let me awkwardly apologize to the young widowed version of my ex-wife" was a great contrast of that. I didn't mind the buzzcut, but her previous hair was nice too. Wonder how she'll explain that one to her dad while she (and Spider-Woman) were gone for the week? she hung out in Miles' dimension.
she's only been gone for roughly 2 days.
Really? Wasn't sure how the interdimensional travel time worked. Still mighty awkward to return with a buzzcut home, and to the potential disaster her Ock created while was sucked away.
The one for peni is the same number as the one in the comics, and they’re completely different characters. So the interns just googled the universe numbers and gave them to the writers that was the thought that went into this
That MJ scene makes me wonder what she did oin that week. She said something like:
>I know where you're coming from, I've been there. It's not her
I wonder how Peter A's death effected her. Seeing her friend die again and being trapped in an alternate reality
Peter B is from 616 and Miles' earth shares the same from the Ultimate comics. It's just a reference with no deeper meaning
Spider-Verse 2 should be 2099 and 1960 playing off each other
It didn’t affect her at all obviously, since she could’ve helped him but chose not to die to plot convenience. Bitch caused her best friend to die twice and spent the rest of the time belittling a third
Oh god, she saw the adult and hero her Peter would never become AND he's died once over. Kind of wish there was this kind of scene between her and Peter B. but that might've distracted to much from the main story events.
HYUCK
How would she have known Peter A was investigating King Pin was using an inter dimensional machine to get back his family? Her Spider Sense only told her to go to Miles' school.
Don't forget Noir, he's a Peter too
YOU'RE ACCUSING ME OF POINTING
Fun Fact: J Jonah is voiced by Stan Lee because he wanted to play the role in the Raimi live action films.
I dunno I feel like if I was stuck in an alternate dimension I would try to contact someone I may be able to talk to about myself ie the other person who has the same powers I do. The spider sense line was just a throw away to get the meet cute with miles nothing else
>The one for peni is the same number as the one in the comics, and they’re completely different characters.
I think the fan theory that this Peni grows up into the one from the comics and has an edgy teenager phase has some merit.
Even with the difference between comic and movie Noir, he's still very different from regular "Spider-Man" Peter and "nerdy teenager" Peter. Depression era and violence just change a person. Not to mention his different voice from RIPeter and Peter B. A completely monochrome person would also look quite alien, too.
It’s jusr a reference like most of the things in this movie, none of these characters are the ones from the comics fully. If they were miles would’ve been blander than he already was and Pete A would’ve been a teen. Also was anyone else surprised to see that MJ at the gala kingpin threw? You think it would’ve been far to soon for her to want to see something like that
Is he gonna molest Miles?
Gwen seemed like she wanted to keep a low profile and try to get in and out on her own. There's a whole thing with her character and not working with others in the movie
What does the E stand for?
Also >dat daredevil cameo
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Yes and going to a school in Brooklyn was the best way to figure out about inter dimensional travel, that it wouldn’t seem to unreasonable that she would’ve assumed had something to do with that spider-man. It was all plot connivence to me and I normally wouldn’t care, since despite my deep hatred of every Miles stands for, I do like this movie. But shipping Gwen with miles, which was the true intention of her going to a random school in the middle of Brooklyn ruins both terrible characters even more
That should've been obvious to me but I default to associating the Earth ___ format with DC.
It's a private school that has ties to Alchemax, enough so to show a vid about the Collider in the physics class. Forging an identity to "transfer" there and intern and Alchemax seems smarter than brute-forcing your way in.
What Daredevil cameo? I don't remember that
Seeing as the first time we meet Gwen she's literally watching a documentary by the head scientist of Alchemax it seems pretty obvious she was honing in on the collider, just doing it solo. She had a full week to research though she probably didn't realize she was knocked into the past until the collider explosion happened. We even see her on the way to Liv's office to make her own goober before Miles and Pete beat her to the punch.
When the collider is going critical and Kingpin is seeing his alternate wives and sons, one of the pairs is this.
Red hair, red tinted glasses, and tied to Kingpin? That's an adopted Matt Murdock.
the consept of the past is fucky when dealing with dimensional travel, was she just transported to the same time and day she was already in? Or did the accident happen during the same day and she got shot back in time? Stupid shit to think about yes but she still let her "best friend" die again to get some. which is fine I guess if I pushed my friend into becoming a school shooter I wouldn't want to associate with them either
>Adopted
Don't be too sure. That universe's Vanessa seems to have the same hair color. A universe where Daredevil is Kingpin's biological son sounds like a more interesting hook.
Peter is a sore spot for her, and she likely didn't want to interact with a constant reminder of what her Peter could never be.
Matt trying to bring his father down by both legal means and vigilante work sounds really spicy.
That Vanessa looks blonde to me, but could either be recessive genes or their Wilson is a ginger as well.
How would she have known that spider-man was peter?
Ah thanks. Completely missed that one
... you got me there, I really didn't consider that. Yeah then it's more liekly she didn't want to work together with another spider-man until Miles and Burrito Peter snagged the PC from her.
Hey what if:
>Aaron is Ultimate!Prowler
>Hobie is 616!Prowler
>Hobie is 138!Spidey
>Spider-Verse sequel has Aaron as Spider-Punk
She was knocked back 1 week, mile's time, before the collider explosion.
Also I never understand the complaint about Gwen "Letting" Pete die again. She wouldn't have access to meta-knowledge that Peter Parker is Spider-man.
then you've taken the last relevance Hobie had left
I don't know, pretty sure it's meant to be the same color.
Yeah but she could've followed the only lead she would've tangibly had, someone in this universe has her powers. Instead we get a weak explanation to force contact with the lead character
It's fucking insane how much thought and effort went into EVERY part of this movie.
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Here's the thread for how they did Prowler's noise.
What if King Pin was Matt Murdock's Father
what's the weak explanation? and did you miss the part where she flat out states she's stopping interacting with people after her Peter died?
What if Matt Murdock was Kingpin's father?
Yeah, that's what the speculation was.
and did you forget the part where she said her spider sense lead her to the school? She stopped interacting to people in her own dimension as gwen she said nothing about talking to people as spider woman, especially when that conversation topic could've been "where am I and why do you have my powers?"
user, that's why they're trust issues. They're an issue interfering with your life and decision making.
"And where am I?" is pretty easily answered considering there's a Spider-MAN around and different ads for everything. It's a parallel universe. But just because there's a celebrated spider hero doesn't mean he's a good or even helpful person.
Her first foray into Brooklyn Visions was research about Alchemax. The 2nd time she was looking for the weird sensation her spider-sense was giving off, which was Mile's powers developing.
And about peter, Even if she wasn't a loner and desired to get into contact with him, how would she do that in 7 days in a city as big as New York, made doubly disorienting by the fact that It's not her New York?
I dunno it seems like a better leap in logic to talk to the one person who seems to have something in common with you than it does to get enrolled at a school somehow and wait a week to randomly see a video that happens to show everything you need to know. I get the trust thing but everything she did was to more get to that meet cute than it was logical steps a hero could take
>Just because there's a spider person doesn't mean their good or helpful
>First thing she sees is him saving 26 people
The same way that peni noir and ham found May, through plot convenience. Or by just swinging through the city in open sight, they would've probably run into each other a some point
To be fair, with Ham its real easy as to how he ran into them.
Ham runs into Noir because their meeting would be funny and thats how cartoons work.
Peni got their through Anime Convenience.
Seems like Pete was preoccupied that week tracking down Norman, Prowler, Ock, and the Collider + Building his own goober to shut it down.
Even with Gwen swinging in broad daylight with daily bugle headlines on "Another Spider-person?" would be enough to distract Pete from dealing with the collider first.
616 comic Peter is in his late 20s though.
I just would've found a meeting between Pete and Gwen far more interesting than Gwen and Miles. What do you say to the person you failed? But fuck it who cares, the movie needed a plot. Lets just do what the writers did and ignore it
That's what I thought last night in that scene. I'm new to these characters. So I was going in blind.
616 peter is closer to 30
Noir is a full fledged detective, Peni is from the 30th century and so she can easily track people by hacking stuff, and Ham has toon power that leads him wherever plot wants him to. It's not that hard. Meanwhile Gwen is a semi regular person with a couple of years as Spidey experience and probably only enough knowledge to forge an identity.
Peter B. or Pefect Pete are not the Peter from E-65. Apologizing to them does nothing for the dead Peter. Gwen literally states these people are completely different and all a conversation of saying "sorry for killing you" does is be confusing and awkward.
The only reason things like that happen in comics is for the reader for "closure". It's pretty stupid.
Well, yes, that's what I said.
yes just like spider-gwen isn't from 616 so apologizing to her wouldn't have done anyhing for anyone. This entire movieis predicated on the "history" of spider-man and it avoiding a big part of it is a shame, its a decent movie and I under stand a lot of my problem is finding miles so repugnant but it would've been interesting to see how two people who've both let each other down so completely in their respective universes, would interact. It would've been something like the Mary Jane scene but hopefully they wouldn't have played peter off as such a pathetic person
The references he makes peg him closer to 35 at the youngest.
something something sliding timeline
in the movie peter would be 38 if he got his powers at 16 and in the comics peter is anywhere between 28-31 depending on the writer
so fucking cute
We see how they interact in the movie. Gwen chooses to separate the Peter from her world and the Peters she meets in the movie. She's real cautious of referring to her Pete as her best friend in the presence of the other spiders. I don't think even Miles knows.
As for Pete that would either be an event that was over 2 decades ago or it's possible the night gwen stacy died didn't happen in his timeline.
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You're trying to manufacture expected interactions that wouldn't be there naturally.
If it did happen he would've been in his early twenties so it wouldn't have been 2 decades ago but close and I assume it did happen since its a pretty solid justifyer for him being so scared of having kids. She opens herself to Miles pretty quickly but not as quickly as in the next movie *wink wink* *nudge nudge* the jews
I know its not an easy scene to write and presumably since amazing spider-man two did so poorly sony probably wanted to separate the two as much as possible, but you think they would've referenced it. I think at the end of it spider-verse would've been better if Gwen was the main character, she has an actual arc to resolve over a movie and the depth of their connection would've made far more sense given the short amount of time they interacted
Miles is just a poorfag drinking non-brand soda.
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BRRAAAAAAAAAAApppp
No, you're missing the point. Read the post again.
It's not about the difficulty of the scene. You just want a scene that doesn't occur and you want to swap protagonist. Make your own Spider-verse movie, this one is already the gold standard.
I love Prowler but Hobie Brown >>> Miles' uncle
the gold standard was the cartoon from the 90's this one was alright
Also it sounds like you think literally everything about this film is decided in terms of branding and reception when it literally features Miles Morales, the least popular Spider-character as it's main protagonist.
It's a work of art not a focus-test movie. They didn't make a Gwen x Peter movie because they didn't want to make a Gwen x Peter movie, full stop.
>its a work of art not a focus test movie
LOL, the movie was good but it feels more like something made by a committee than someone with a clear vision
>entire movie about Spider-Man getting BLACKED
>why are cucks so attracted to this movie?
Back to /pol/ you go
Don't make me man, that place has already destroyed my ability to enjoy any cartoons with racemixing in them.
You can't seriously be this dense. Please rewatch with subtitles and take notes. Use crayons if you must.
What she was shot back in time to meet Miles to set up the relationship, what's so difficult to understand about that? I get it I just don;t like it
The cooliest?
Not 100% sure, but it sort of looks like Allison from "It Hurts!!"
You see the same ad in line Time Square change between Miles and Peter B's worlds
What happened, what they post
Gay incest.
Prowler raping Miles
I know that feel. I don't want to be racist, really. I even enjoyed the movie but whenever I see a black dude / chick in a movie all I can think about is the Muh Diversity qouta requirement and I know its a false dichotomy because I never need to question other races in the same way. I really do think a lot of current social trends and pushes really don't understand why a lot of the previous movements worked. its a lot easier to shout for equal people equal rights but now its all
>show more blacks and whites shouldn't be successful.
Congrats. You took the red pill. Now you have to live underground and never get to enjoy steak again.
>But Black Pill, I eat steaks and enjoy the sun.
Nigga you da horse
There was a sequel idea tossed around at one point, and it was called and it would have vampires
This was the only part of the movie I couldn't handle most
Can’t eat steak? What the fuck you talkin bout nigga?
R.I.P. Old man.
Man that hurt. This one of my favourite the Stan Lee cameos
is that worthikids?
>Japs are finally starting to make fanart
Yes, inject it right into my veins.
Why didn't they draw Miles?
you really want more miles/peter art?
>It always fits, eventually.
still fuckin gets me
Yes
There's actually a fan art contest sponsored by Wacom Japan right now. Go to twitter and search this hashtag:
#ワコムスパイダーバースコンテスト
How gay would it be?
Man, I remember having a light chuckle every time Stan showed up in a movie. It wasn't fun here, it won't be fun the next time.
There's a difference between the public hero and what he might do behind the scenes, for all she know he could be corrupt and be in the pocket of whoever is in power.
And I use straw and why is that?
Y-yeah...
Had to click this to make sure his mask wasn't the venom symbiote overtaking his head.
> dispenses heartfelt advice next to a "no refunds" sign
fucking A+ portrayal
>Implying Stan Lee's ghost won't begin making inexplicable appearances in marvel movies in scenes no one remembering being in the original cut
>Implying Stan Lee's haunting of all marvel movies won't be the most well-documented and well known record of supernatural events ever
Please?
>Doctor Strange 2 has various alternate reality Stan simulacra made of Disney CGmancy and cut up/mashed up soundbites
It hurt but I'll be damned if it weren't a perfect quote and cameo for it
Don't forget that shiny smile after the no refunds song
Double dubs of double truth.
I remember his animation being slightly different, I liked it a lot
Spiderverse prowler was great because they took aaron but based everything else on hobie's prowler
based
That should be Spider-man's motto in a nutshell. Really makes you think, since a good bunch of Marvel heroes are cynical and/or cunts.
>My finger points!
It's fucking shit that he had only one scene with Miles at the beginning. The Movie was just too unfocused, so the writers could shoehorn in more Spider-People.
To be fair the thing had like 4 directors and 5 writers, so its surprising how focus it stayed in the first place
Peter could have been an absolute U N I T
> Goliath, regular and harvestman spider-man
That chunky look is so weird but I kinda dig it.
Some of these are very cool
Disney's marketing division have been sockpuppeting Stan Lee's twitter account and literally every post the comments are 90% "please stop using this account"
>I'm going to miss him.
How do you think J.J reacted to his death?
>Movie says he's 23
>Is built like a truck
I see that version of Peter kept the Symbiote on the lowkey
Fuck you ya white honkey nordic nigga bitch
I can't see the symbiote approving of marrying MJ and being just a side tot.
I couldn't, I fucking died. I was with friends and they didn't quite get it but I was a lost cause. That shouldn't have been as funny as it was.
laughed like a madman
>Symbiote purposfully filling Peter's head with suspicious and doubt so he spits with MJ
There was that one time that Agent Venom fucked Valkyrie and was all tired out afterwards. Who knows?
Maybe the symbiote is into threesomes as long as it's a ONS
He was based enough to print a pic related, but then again, having Peter's unmasked body dumped in front of the Bugle must have put things into perspective.
Symbiote chilling on them both post-coitus is weird and cute.
I kind of want to see the poly? relationship Peter, MJ and symbiote could have. I assume the last two actively veto against Peter's dumber ideas.
Based.
JJJ is actually running for mayor in this universe
Anyone else felt a bit weird about the huge graffiti mural Miles and Jefferson did for Aaron? I understand the sentiment and that he was good to Miles but I'm sure the news would report that this dude was a criminal who probably did some terrible things.
The general public would trash it.
It's funny because that's actually very carefully worded for a Stan Lee quote.
>Helps others
>simply because it should/must be done
>and because it is the right thing to do
So then:
>helping others for other reasons doesn't make you a hero
>doing what must be done that isn't helping others doesn't make you a hero
>helping and doing what should be done but doing the wrong thing doesn't make you a hero
It's a very tight rope.
But at least you don't have to WANT to be a super-hero as though deep hyper-altruism is in itself a moral obligation. And actually that's what often tends to put people off Spider-man, he does heroics out of a sense of moral obligation but he doesn't want to, something adherents of classical superheroes like Batman or Superman find disgusting.
It's funny because that kind of conflict of ideas has been reflected in real life now. Those that understand that the right thing must be done, versus those that don't approve unless people have the right thoughts also.
H e y.
Guess what I'm trying to say is it's a special kind of idea to put forward a Superhero whose superpowers cause him all kinds of personal grief, who second guesses his position as a superhero, and who frequently regrets being one. In a medium that was so thoroughly dominated by characters who would consider it an obligation to be so self-less that none of these would be a factor, because doing the right thing and helping others is such a duty that even considering not wanting to fulfill it is a sin itself.
And that is what makes Spider-man popular, not him being young or relationship drama's or even his costume. It's the hope that we don't have to be some kind of titanic, selfless overman to be heroes.
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I was sorta spoiled so I kind of saw this coming but the actual reveal legit gave me chills just watching it, even more than the Prowler reveal
What a shame
>The Symbiote can't bond to Peter for some reason, but still wants to get close to him
>It finds some way to bond to MJ in a way where it can't be removed without hurting her
>Initially MJ is frightened and disgusted by it
>But the symbiote gives her powers and saves her life from an attack by one of Spidey's other foes
>Eventually they reach an uneasy alliance
>Then they get comfortable with each other
>Then the start exploring the options of shapeshifting in bed
>Symbiote chilling on them both post-coitus is weird and cute.
Well, in Flash's case it kinda has to be there or else he doesn't have any legs, which helps a lot when having sex in most positions.
I’m gonna say it
MJ then uses the Symbiote to peg Peter, something he'd wanted to try but was afraid to suggest. Since the shapeshifted phallus stimulates MJ she ends up turning this into a regular event.
>They way Olivia just seems to be enjoying the fight
>That oddly motherly "Could you give that back young man?" and "Come back here boy!"
>Every single scientist pulls out a laser weapon
>"He took a bagel!"
>Miles actually believing that Gwen's name was really Gwanda
This movie is just filled with small neat and funny things.
NO NO NO I MISSED IT? FUCK I KNEW HERE WOULD BE SOMETHING AT THE END BUT NOOOO I JUST HAD TO LEAVE
>every fucking scientist in the company is packing
>now we switch
>HE TOOK A BAGEL
We didn't deserve this movie.
Nigger
Imagine a movie where Miles and Anansi attempt to complete Anansi's trials in a mythological dreamworld with African monsters and gods. A dreamworld would be the perfect excuse for the kind of wacky animation they were able to pull off with a multiverse theme.
Anyone else think the other Spider-People were just a little too dickish to Miles, even with the stakes that were on the line?
>yet another potentially great cartoon ruined by black people
Honestly, why do we still keep them around if we're not using them for slavery? Is it a jew thing? Even they must realize skin color is supposed to be flesh pink, not brown.
A little
you realise a black guy directed it right
They just didn't want him to die of inexperience. I mean, that universe's Spider-man already died and they know he was a seasoned veteran.
Letting a complete rookie go into the same fight?
>Miles throws a bagel at a scientist
>It makes a "bagel" sound effect.
This is the first movie in the last decade where I actually want to get the blu ray.
I like how they had every opportunity to make Peter or Miles do something stupid like slamming into a tree for them to "fail" the escape and give Gwen a reason to save them, but instead of making them incompetent, they went with glitching Peter, something completely out of their control. Makes it feel less like Peter was getting shit on to give Gwen the spotlight.
I love how the trailers edited out Olivia and made it seem like the scientists got pissed because they took a bagel.
In retrospect, I really appreciate how much effort they put in just to keep the Olivia Octavius reveal a secret. Liv's civilian design got shown ahead of time, but they managed to keep anyone from even suspecting she was anything more than the quirky female scientist character.
same goes for Doc Ock on the PS4 games
Uncle Aaron just won an Oscar.
>Symbiote basically guided Flash's hips
And now everyone else just followed suit.
Deserved.
Grass is cheaper
But Miles not knowing dead Peter worked for the story. You have this kid completely out of his depth with that universe's Spider-Man killed in front of him right after he promised to teach Miles how to use his new powers. That leaves him with a huge amount of responsibility since as far as he knows he's the only hope left to save the universe and he already fucked up the goober before he could even try. Then he finds out about Peter B. who just appears to be a washed-up version of the dead Peter he doesn't try to teach Miles anything at first before warming up to him. Killing off Peter so early really worked thematically since it makes him almost a messiah figure to Miles and makes it even more difficult to live up to his reputation.
1 of 5 directors was black yes
That'd be a cool way to bring back Prowler actually, just have Hobie be the legacy character that takes his place.
well in this universe, MJ would be a widow so...
I think the post you are replying to is talking about the uncle not Peter.