What went right/wrong for this show?
What went right/wrong for this show?
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what went right: the animation, the artstyle, the characters, the humor, the action, the geographic facts, the developpment, the suspense, the heists, the villains, the settings, the plot twists
what went wrong: only 9 episodes
Right
>good main character
>good side characters
>simple but appealing visual style
>solid story
Wrong
>repetitive
>only 9 episodes
>held back by rating
there were barely any geographic facts.
Carmen's voice is pure sex
What went wrong is the low amount of rule 34. That's a fucking travesty and I'm honestly dissapointed in everyone for not making more. What the fuck is wrong with you all
10 seconds of geographic facts is better than none at all
Being not good at drawing.
What a stupid question.
we aren't shilling this show enough
This. I would love to pay someone to commission some art but I'm poor as fuck
I'm gonna look into commissioning some porn when I get some money in, not sure who
I did my best with my retarded edits. Sadly I can't draw.
I can draw somewhat, I'm just not good with dynamic poses
There's a new Carmen show? Anyway, from my vague memories as a kid playing the game, Carmen is supposed to be this globe-trotting femme fatale master thief, correct me if I'm wrong. How's/what's her character like in the new show?
>Carmen Sandiego thread
>People start spamming lewds and fanart
EVERY. TIME.
getting real tired of people asking how the show is
just watch it and decide for yourself moron
all the people who watched all 9 episodes liked it
>what went wrong: only 9 episodes
S2 was already confirmed.
Nice reading comprehension brainlet. I asked about her character, not the show. I'll still watch it.
Character is changed to be more of a Robin Hood style spy character, the show is good though, but you should probably watch it as it's own thing rather than in connection to the old lore.
There is a fun Easter egg to the 90s cartoon though.
Just watch the first episode and you will have your answer, it's not that difficult
Actually replying to your question would be spoiler
Be the porn you want to see in the world.
I don't want it confirmed I want it NOW
Not enough episodes
It discarded the very thing that Carmen Sandiego always grounded itself upon in exchange for serialized drama.
Educational factoids
It's like if Mia: Just in Time were to be stretched out without much of the mathematics but focuses more on the gems and time travel.
Yeah, but season 2 is just the episodes they already had done but didn't want to release to artificially inflate the number of seasons they have.
People are really liking it though, I can see it getting a third season.
That's how Netflix rolls. I don't know, they did the same thing with Voltron and it ended up having a pretty decent episode count.
I guess they could do a better job of couching the story itself in geography facts and stuff. I mean Do a bit of a DaVinci Code thing and add some flavor to the things that are stolen and how Carmen gets to them.
>elevator scene
>elevator music is the 1991 carmen sandiego theme
everything went right.
>literally every thread
Something like this. Apparently, they won't even allow seasons longer than 13-ish episodes.
>Carmen is brown sugar
Oh yes.
>Carmen more outright heroic than her own self-serving faction.
Meh.
>Good voice and attitude.
Nice.
>Chief is present
Cool.
>Aroused by seeing a big strong woman squeeze the life out of a smaller weaker woman
Disconcerting.
All in all I'm very pleased with the show. I was hoping she'd be more grey and not with the good or bad guys but she's really just a rogue good gal.
>There won't be an episode where Paper Star kidnaps Player and rapes him in front of a webcam for Carmen to watch.
That's what's wrong.
>People spam threads about a show where the only appeal is lewds with lewds
I WONDER WHY THAT HAPPENS
What gives me the biggest boner are all the geography stuff
The siblings are literal cancer
Well, they are from Boston.
There's some anons here who think likewise
People watch this besides the porn, we just like the porn when there’s nothing else to do.
> What went wrong
There was no cheeky Where's Wally? Reference.
Plus it's a show with a lot of dangerous, criminal ladies. Of course part of the appeal here is to fantasize about them bullying one's dick.
You think VILE will ever target Player? Anyway, what was Player doing being in contact with Cookie?
I'm surprised they didn't try in the first place after taking her phone, though I doubt they could properly track him
>Wally
It's Waldo you britbong fuck
fugg i love thick brows
>You think VILE will ever target Player?
Hopefully, seems like a good way to raise the stakes.
Basically him and Gray are Carmen's biggest loose ends. The Twins are the only other people who work with Carmen and the ycan handle themselves well
>heh heh.... Fedora the Explorer...... that's a good one..........better take it down in case the runt shows up again
I FUCKING LOST MY WACOM PEN AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH I WANT TO DRAW HER
>invented by a brit
>REEEE the American spelling is the right one!!!
Yanks...
>what was Player doing being in contact with Cookie?
He was calling her to make some money beefing up their network security.
GOD DAMN IT user I DON'T GIVE A SHIT IF YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN CRAYONS, YA GOTTA GIVE US SOMETHING TO WORK WITH
>what was Player doing being in contact with Cookie?
When was he. I don't remember that.
He wasnt in contact with cookie, it was the boat driver, and I assume he was just being a little shit.
She deserves a win every once in a while.
>Carmen's voice sounds disgustingly old
FTFY
Y7? I thought that was a good rating for most cartoons (or really shows in general).
It really doesn't
No. The show looks ugly. It should have been made into an anime.
I demand more Tigress lewds.
What makes you think that?
I'M WORKING ON IT
It will end up with Carmen becoming the Anti-Hero villain that we know, the kids being fostered into ACME, and the player being replaced with The One we know.
What style of anime
exactly
We need more edits.
That dress was so goddamn sexy
And when she's not in her coat she wears criminally short shorts.
It's too bad we never got a good look at her swimsuit. I bet they thought about pushing it even further.
>season 2 means more Carmen outfits
This Carmen looks dead inside.
The art is good but her eyes look like she's just came home from 'Nam
>went right
>animation and style is pretty good
>carmen's outfits
>some characters looks lewdworthy
>writing ain't that bad
>went wrong
>could've add more geographic fact
>humor is meh
the humor needs more work
>The art is good but her eyes look like she's just came home from 'Nam
That's just par the course for this artist.
not gonna address the kid that stays a child despite like a ten year timeskip?
It was like 2 or 3 years, Player does visibly age
>also could've work better on the grey morality
Need more.
Provide screenshots, I'll have a crack at it tonight.
It's sad that she's overshadowed by a character who, at most, appeared on only two episodes
Good:
>good characters
>good early exposition
>the geographical infodumps are actually interesting, and educational.
Bad:
>the Boston accents
>not enough geographic infodumps
>Provide screenshots
How good are you with various types of Slutwear?
I've got a couple commissions pending. Patience.
Right
>the art style
>villains
>The backstory episode was particularly strong
>endgame twist
>Chase Devineaux
Went wrong
>annoying side characters
>boring recurring characters from her class
>repetitive plot
I like lingerie most but I can work with most things
is this real?
Of course not.
why does the player doesn't age? Carmen did
He did age.
"But user, can't you see? She's the bitch. And no one likes her!"
I honestly would appreciate more non-VILE villains. Maybe some sort of scavengers looking for treasure that VILE is also looking for and ends up in a wary alliance with Carmen against them but are also willing to betray her when their needs fit it.
That would've made the plot less repetitive. Also the show kinda reminds me of thea stilton books with the five students
That it's clearly going into 'Villains only' territory for her targets. Why can't we get an innocent kid Carmen that gradually turns into the world's greatest thief that gives zero shits about who she's stealing from and more about how important/insane the theft is.
Whoops little late but here
I'm pretty fine with what the show is now
> Great art style.
> Strong writing.
> Likeable protagonist.
> Literally a nuclear engine for rule 34 and filthy smutfics.
Almost instant Rule 34 here.
I think showing her enjoying stealing would be the best angle.
loli Carmen is too wild and undisciplined, she wouldn't be an ideal gf
Exactly. That's what Carmen is and always shall be. No restrictions, she'll make it happen.
The problem is that they kinda set her up to be Carmen's Malfoy. But that only works when she has the upper hand in most situations she shows up in to make it more satisfying when she does eventually get beat.
If she's a constant loser, it just doesn't work. I feel like VILE has to win sometimes. The only halfway decent operatives seem to be Paper Star and fucking Mime Bomb, who did fulfill his part of the mission.
Damn, so they did give her that latin ass, you just have to find it.
Like, she tries to do it the "right way", Robin Hood style, but shes really driven by a desire and thrill in stealing.
Having her wrestle with the fact her motives are not as wholesome as she tells herself is actually a pretty deep and interesting arc as it enables the writers to explore her moral ambiguity yet still have her be a good person.
Devereaux calling her out on her noble Robin Hood act being a conceit for her doing what she does for gratification.
Explore her as a complex not entirely heroic hero, which is a whole lot more interesting than her being a straight villain or hero.
The things that could be done with this pic... Wow.
You know you're fucked when your godamn mime classmate did a better job than you
damn It. Now you got me all motivated to write a fancomic before the second season trailer release
I want a picture of Carmen on a caper getting stuck in a vent with her fat booty.
I want to kiss her
I wish it could've been 14+ rating but eh, that's just me
Same.
Anybody remember the fake game show on pubs that started this franchise? They reused contestants all the time, I swear, and it was terrible. I mean there can't have been that many chubby mulatto girls, I swear it was the same one every episode.
Pbs my autocorrect is retarded
>Carmen, Brazil is the posterior capitol of the world. So you should fit right in!
>What's that supposed to mean, Player?
Trying to twist her into a teenage superhero killed the premise
What are you talking about? Mimes are fucking OP.
A good mime can create any weapon they want instantly, except its invisible. You try dodging a shot from an invisible rocket launcher, you won't know whats happening until you've already been blown up.
And that's not even getting into the strategic usage of invisible walls to block off attacks or prevent people chasing you from being able to catch you.
Mimes are fucking DANGEROUS.
You fucking know Carmen would easily turn the table on Player there. She'd find a way to turn him into a stuttering mess
How stupid can one be? Carmen Sandiego started as a video game series, which got picked up by PBS to be a game show, the show was legitimate and made intentionally ridiculously hard because they did not want to pay out prizes and so kids were forced to identify states/countries/provinces on an upside down map.
The size of her hips seems to vary a lot between scenes.
The premise is allowed to change, it's been 34 years. And her being the protagonist (which allows the viewers a better look into her internal thoughts and feelings) fits just fine with the conceit of this show, which is "Who is Carmen Sandiego?"
The incredibly long flashback sequence that more or less starts off the show is boring as shit, I couldn't get through it.
Just skip to episode 3
We call it a pleb filter, honey.
Carmen wants you to speak proper English
I ain't got no need for no proper talking.
Reminder this is official
I like their accent, fight me.
That's better
Just feel like it hinders the action and dialogue a bit
Basically this
Honestly, I'd love to see the face on the bottom cropped to just itself and with the text removed. Because minus context, it looks like something else.
Thick Carmen is Best Carmen.
If you want porn of something draw it yourself or pay an artist to draw it for you. Wishing for it does nothing.
The show just started. It takes time. "Miraculous Ladybug" is three seasons in and we're still lacking Rule34 of a lot of the characters.
This artist loves those colors and giving the characters he draws mindbroken looking eyes.
Kinda hot sometimes, like those LWA lewds he did
Or just the [bones crunching], [groans, gasps] is just fine.
Tumblr getting shat down really fucked us over
>People watch this besides the porn
Quit lying to yourself.
Really? I'm kinda surprised
Why would someone be stupid enough to watch a show for a porn? It's one thing to just look up the porn, but why would you sit through a show solely because it is tangentially related to something you fapped to?
sauce on his porn account?
Her feet are drawn cutely
That is also official and implies Carmen is going to /ss/ Player.
I love that the people working on the show are into the same shit we are.
You use "official" rather loosely
Qualify statement
>would you sit through a show solely because it is tangentially related to something you fapped to?
very yes
Well, it's made by an artist working on the show who got permission to post his/her stuff.
I think there'd be more fanart if Netflix/Studios that worked on it released official character sheets. There were a ton of cool characters and costumes for Carmen
Drawings by artist no equal official
>lesson 1 always protect the face.
>no one protects the face.
Maybe we can ask for them on the twitter or something. Sounds like kind of a no brainer unless it's tied up in some legal issues.
>when you're fighting someone as big as Coach, everywhere's the face
I was thinking about that but honestly wasn't sure if they would actually notice/care. I really wanna draw Carmen/the other ladies (without having to sieve through fancaps.net
If you have requests for any specific screengrabs I could probably hook you up there
It kinda is if they work on the show
that's the dumbest thing I've read in a while
It isn't. These artists make a point to mention their own personal drawings do not reflect on the shows they work on.
Why isn’t she buxom like in my memories of the game that I played 18 years ago.
Well I feel like I'd be asking for a lot. Decent refs of all of Carmen outfits and any of the other female characters (especially the ones >106054128 linked)
Same thing with people who are fans and not working on the show yet I don't see people complaining about it over who own it
Was she very buxom in the game?
>I want to impregnate her
Ftfy
>These artists make a point to mention their own personal drawings do not reflect on the shows they work on.
Duh. They want to keep their jobs. It does however show that they are aware or even quietly endorsing certain views held in the fandom.
When guy draws Carmen in a racier swimsuit than seen within the show he's probably speaking to an older demographic.
Very much this
Yup. Nathalie, Nadja, Caline, Audrey, Rose, Juleka, Sabine, Gina, that stormy weather chick......all seriously lack Rule34.
Not really into bones breaking, lol.
No, but she was drawn well and knew how to rock the jacket and hat.
There isn't even a wikia page for this show, hard looking up the characters
Still has buxom in the reboot
You're not wrong, it's time consuming
But here's a gaggle of snips I took from the first ep. Not professional quality, be forewarned
Good lord there's so many ass shots for Tigress have mercy on my dick
>tfw when new to digital art.
>tfw want to draw ivy on model.
>have no Idea how to replicate the style.
I guess I'm just retarded.
Here's some tutorial that'll help
youtu.be
youtu.be
She really isn't that buxom in either game (where she's barely fucking seen) or tv show (where she's constantly wearing a long coat).
Thanks user.
Of all people, I'm really struck by Cookie and Countess
The 'Australian' accents were far worse.
Oh no, she's fucking gorgeous
Pros:
Excellent art direction and choreography that props up average animation. The new origin story and character drama are engaging. Side characters are well integrated into the plot, rather than being one-note jokes. There is a steady escalation of threats and believable stakes. Care was taken with the dialogue and maintaining mood, extracting the best from its voice cast.
Cons:
The animation is straightforward which, while competent, is the least interesting aspect of the visuals. The show becomes more episodic after Carmen leaves the island, to its detriment. The property's wanderlust means our time at each locale is short and shallow.
The biggest problem though is its unwillingness to divorce itself from its edutainment roots, which manifests as an awkward rattling off of factoids by Player in every episode post VILE island. It's redundant, it's useless, and it's not educational. No kid has ever learned how to be a rocket scientist by watching a cartoon character spout trivia, but they may get inspired by watching stuff like Star Trek.
>manifests as an awkward rattling off of factoids by Player in every episode
Yeah, I'm not fond of that either
The geography could add some improvement
It has a cookie cutter plot that will never evolve beyond Carmen being a full on heroine instead of becoming the charming and polite robber that steals for her own excitement no matter who gets involved. Flash animation has grown since the early 2000s but the movements are so stiff, absolutely everything lacks any real weight behind them. The good males are bumbling fools save for the cutesy Player while Chase in the past was a worthy opponent for Carmen. Sheena is clearly going to have 0 growth and while Carmen's potential in all lore is legendary to the point where you should give up going against her, Tigress will never be able to close that gap a tiny bit and will end up being a waste of a character, like she is now.
But, holy fuck, the visuals are amazing and the character design is top notch. Like we're talking the character design is elder god tier, easily the best designs in animated shows in the past decade and some of the best in entertainment. It's a shame all these vibrant designs is being wasted on a vanilla ass adaptation based on a universe that has so much more potential. Leaves me really disappointed at what could have been.
The popular bitch archetype needs more love
>Chase in the past was a worthy opponent
Not at all. He was never close to Carmen's level, always getting tricked and being two steps behind. Though he does get a bit better as the show goes on. I hope they do some Yes Minister/Tom and Jerry thing where they let the perpetual loser have a few wins for the audience to cheer a bit (especially considering they are on the side of the law)
Chase has done more to to stop VILE than any other ACME agent. His dumb luck will save us.
It amazes how Chase survived the entire first two episodes
It's redundant, it's useless, and it's not educational.
No? Every child watching this will have learned/know something about the Magna Carta because the show's repetition and tying the factoids to the plot of the episode is memorable.
>plummets from a fucking building Dark Knight style and keeps on trucking
His fucking car gave up before his body
>all these reboot shows that are getting some grim setting or making them lore based
>Carmen's universe is packed with untapped potential, including herself
>make a kids show instead
Fucking Archie of all things got a darker and edgier show while Carmen Sandiego, a show that can actually benefit by being for an older audience, gets absolutely wasted. They are sitting on a lore goldmine.
There is very clearly an overarching narrative here, and building up of the lore by focusing on the secrets of Carmen's past as the central mystery. You act as though this is Dora the Explorer or something.
Also it's from Netflix yet doesn't have the sense to be bold. Which sucks because I like the artstyle and the characters
>tying the factoids to the plot of the episode is memorable
That's my point. If it's already tied into the plot, that makes Player's exposition dump redundant. It's trivia fired off in rapid succession that goes in one ear and out the next. They don't need to do it.
Any real learning happens after the show, when kids' interests are piqued and they go learn about it on their own.
Not once but TWICE
Reminds me of that Nickelodeon game show that was something like Legends of the Hidden Temple where no one could ever win due to the insane difficulty of all the challenges.
Game shows for kids were sadistic.
I wish there were /ss/ porn in this style
Well if you're into subtext, she's offering him her eggs
Except that's the exact same thing that the positive example you give ("but they may get inspired by watching stuff like Star Trek") does. They aren't learning anything from Star Trek, all the real learning happens after they watch it and get inspired.
I'm speaking very specifically about Player's exposition. That's the part that's unnecessary. Why are you trying to be obtuse?
They need to work the geography into the plot in a much more organic fashion.
Lovely outfit.
Yea that's a bit too much like exposition for educations sake.
Make the plots more congruent to the thievery. It is close but it falls a little short on that.
Yo thanks a bunch, very much appreciated! I'll keep my eye on this thread if you decide to post any more
I need a follow-up with Carmen greeting Player at the door naked safe for an apron like this.
Player's cute voice
I want to protect her smile
SS
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I wonder if he smells like stale baguettes and mentos
AWW. He's also like her only friend in the world.
You implyin Zack and Ivy are just punch clock goons?
They are her associates.
Stop jacking at children cartoons
Like mlp, you'd be demented to demand porn
Zack and Ivy are more like useful pets.
Lmaoing at this nigga's life
Ponies are thicc af, there's a reason there's more porn than you could fap to in a lifetime five times over
People won there too, it was just extremely hard and any time it was actually impossible to win was because they had some confusion for where the temple guards were supposed to be.
Underrated waifu
Cookie or Countess?
Both
Replace swim with fuck
Post Character Reference Pages, they're doing commissions in /aco/ and we need YOUR help!
As example, Ivy.
Also:
>Trenchcoat Carmen
>Fancy Dress Carmen
>Paperstar
>Argent
>Literally anyone else not already made for
I can try to put together some more
Why is pre-alcoholic John Constatine in this?