Let's talk about this movie and why it's amazing. I rewatched it this past weekend after years and years, and it all came back to me. I love Vincent Price as Ratigan, and the whole film screams cute and adventurous at me without being overly saccharine.
This was one of my first forays into Sherlock Holmes, and now that I've watched it again after ages and ages I really want to talk about it!
Post your thoughts, any and all fanart, etc!
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>Post your thoughts, any and all fanart, etc!
Well, we all know how this thread will end
i always hated the rain effect in this scene
Please do not lewd the little Scottish mouse. She is too pure.
It is a bit much, isn't it?
Seems a bit like they just dumped the rain on afterwards imo. Other than that this scene is spectacular.
let me be good for you...
This movie is great, definitely in my top 10. Dark Age Disney had some good films. Olivia is cute.
I used to have that movie on a VHS tape as a kid. It was one of my favourites and I used to watch it frequently as I didn't really have too many other movies (because VHS tapes actually take up physical storage space.)
I found it online recently and watched it again and I was surprised at how well it still stood up. I especially like the music they went with.
Imagine picking her tiny mouse body up.
You smoosh her on accident you graceless sperg
I admit to having a bit of a crush on Basil...He's just so charming!
"Sir, I distinctly heard screaming coming from your roo..." Click.
"No, dear, Mrs Judson, it's quite all right. Ah, I believe I smell some of those delightful cheese crumpets of yours! Why don't you fetch our guests some?"
Oh, I do.
I want to be as smart as Basil
I've been reading mystery novels for 10 years because of him
Keep it up, friend! I believe in you. :-)
Best Disney
Best FF. Where was this in Kingdom Hearts.
>takes place entirely at night, there's literally no sunshine in the movie at all
>arrogant asshole for a disney hero
>no forced love interest
>villain is a perfect blend of funny and scary
>great climax
>stripper mouse
it's a good one
From a previous thread based on a prompt.
thanks, I hope to be a great detective some day
how cute, she tries to impress Basil with some science notes she studied
All I've ever wanted to be was a great villain. I look forward to matching wits with you and defeating you utterly.
Who will triumph in the battle of minds? Only time will tell!
You can see Ratigan as one of Georgette's many acquaintances in Oliver and Company, in the back and to the left here.
Basil is cute I wish there was more porn of him
This movie is the best, actually. Easily the best Disney film to date. Basil and Ratigan have excellent chemistry and the clocktower scene is iconic.
that's a dog who looks liek ratigan
This I approve of.
This movie will always be a top fav of mine. Just the right blend of dark and unforgiving mixed with Disney charm.
Basil may have only gotten one chance to shine, but he still shines bright.
Great mouse detective KH level?
Really would have worked a treat. Felicia as a giant miniboss. Chase scene with the balloons. Clock tower platform puzzler. End boss with heartless, berzerker Ratigan.
This movie needs so much more love than it ever gets, but since it's got sex, drinking, smoking, and a gun it'll never get out of the vault.
> sex, drinking, smoking, and a gun it'll never get out of the vault.
disney should have bought out 4kids and inherited their insane cartoon censoring skillz
>Start as street level mystery story, go around London beating up Ratigan's thugs
>Build up to clock tower
>mouse stripper scene
> what
I'll agree with that if we don't include Pixar. Or the Emperor's New Groove.
I really wish that Disney hadn't screwed up their string of successful 3D releases by putting out Pixar films that have constantly been available instead of their own works that hadn't been in theaters in decades.
Had they kept that up, they might have eventually turned their attention to the more obscure films.
at first I thought "cute!" but then it got worse
s-stop!! post more
that's probably intentional because they have the same animator (glen keane)
Worriesome.
This is wholesome
Ratigan scared the fuck out of me as a kid. Really a very good villain.
Never ever
The movie is perfect paced amd written. And supspense till the end.
I wonder if the books are better or the movie?
I was surprised by the sexy scene as a kid. I don't think my parents knew it was in there, or they didn't care. They used to do similar scenes in old cartoons so it might not be a big deal to them. I watched it every day for a while. But I wasn't a huge Sherlock fan or detective fan in my youth. My Mom was obsessed with Holmes books so it just turned me off to the genre. I remember this movie but it doesn't have warm feelings like, say, Lady and the Tramp.
Me too. His cruelty with the execution by cat set the of danger of situation really well.
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Vincent fucking Price
Didn't he say this was one of his favorite roles? It's easy to see why.
Why do people do this
Pedophilia.
Sadly.
You know, more recent Disney films have not had climaxes anywhere near as intense as this movie (or Oliver & Company) or those of the 90s Renaissance. Maybe it's the limits of 3D animation in the Disney style, but nothing makes your heart pound in your chest.
But FEELS, man FEELS.
It comes down like that in sheets when it is windy and it is fucking horrible and ice cold.
Lupin III did it.
i'm still waiting for the rest
Not really. Its just the age of anti climax or subversion. And that most directors or writers cant write.
This movie actually has one of the more accurate representations of Sherlock's personality:
He's excitable, affable (with those he likes), and they did a good job of showing how he uses disguises and his knowledge of London's chemical makeup to find out where to go next (Salt water in the paper, with the coal dust, leading Basil to the sewer outlet at the waterfront).
Most interpretations just paint Sherlock as being an omnipotent, contrarian asshole.
And for you continuity fans out there, the movie takes place during the Sherlock Holmes story "The Red-Headed League" (Where the dialogue from the scene where Basil and co. pick up Tobey comes from)
GMT television series when?
Disney+ needs some content you know...
>implying he would ever let her through the door
Basil is a patriotic Englishmouse.
Who would voice Basil? I can see David Tennant doing it. He has the same kind of high-energy delivery as Basil's VA (whose name escapes me) had in the film.
This scene was amazing. I was at the edge of my seat.
>Most interpretations just paint Sherlock as being an omnipotent, contrarian asshole.
Sherlock being an all-around genius misses the point of the character really since it's mentioned outright that he has zero use for anything not related to criminology, tobacco, or violin music.
Watson even surprised him once by pointing out that the Earth revolves around the Sun.
There are two dubs of the bat, Fidget, abd it stokes my OCD that it's never been documented.
Compare the original theatrical release with later home video releases.
But it's realistic rain...I liked it because of that.
Never change, Yea Forums. Never change.
You gotta love his attitude.
stop with this meme you moron
this got retconed in subsequant stories
How does it differ exactly? Was it not sped up in the original release or something?
I've run into a few fans of this movie online, like the kind that collect production stuff and know a ton about the film's development, and I can confirm that's not a thing I've ever once heard about from any of them.
>Compare the original theatrical release
Sure, I'll just get my copy out of the shed along with the reel-to-reel projector.
Who would voice her anyway? Nicole Sullivan?
I wanna have drink fruit punch with him
This isn't exactly correct. What happened according to the studio was that, during voice tests, they thought Fidget's voice was too low to be properly understood. The Fidget we hear is the voice actor's lines sped up. There was no 'alternative voice track'.
As a sort of easter egg to this, they included his voice unaltered during the bar scene before the dance number. 'Get off, you eight-legged bum!' What you heard there is Fidget's actual voice actor at his natural pitch.
Also the fact that Ratigan recorded himself singing his escape.
It's supposed to be England, there should have been rain throughout the entire movie
There was, to an extent.
When I saw it, it came across the most clearly in the scene where he's explaining what happened to the list. One version is more subdued and lower, and the other version is a bit faster and higher pitched.
The two versions I compared it to back in the day were the version that aired on Toon Disney and the one in the iTunes shop.
Huh. Was it originally released with the unaltered voice track? Because that would explain it. I know that GMD went through the most shifts post release of most Disney films, with the name change debacle and all.
Is this the only good Xerox period Disney film?
Even indoors though
The music all through the clocktower scene is so spine-tingling it's hands-down my favorite score.
That and let's be honest Yea Forums, what kind of boss battle could possibly top fighting on the giant rotating gears of Big Ben?
Vincent Price is the best part of the movie, he just goes all in as Rattigan, no phoning it in. There's some great clips from interviews and news reports that came out before the movie where they show him in the sound booth doing recordings and you can see him getting so lost in the character.
I do get why they did it but it also kinda seems like it was pasted on at the last minute without much thought. It obscures the animation a bit here and there and disappears entirely at the 0:32 mark.
Adds a neat intensity though, so I'm a little split.
It's always nice to see the birth of an epic rivalry.
Barrie Ingham, who isn't really a very well known actor as it turns out. Almost all his appearances are as minor characters or one-off appearances on TV shows.
He said that Ratigan was his favorite role
I remember hearing that difference in that line. They were right to change it for the rest of the dialogue. He was pretty difficult to understand in that scene.
Robin Hood says hi.
That's what happens when you hire Henry "Peter Gunn" Mancini.
>Robin Hood
I'll allow it.
You are now manually imagining Donald Duck painfully choking out "Let me be good to you!" in the miserable death rattle that's been his voice since Ducktales 2017
Alright, that made me laugh
>1 Golden Globe
>4 Oscars
>20 Grammys (+1 posthumous)
Is he the most overqualified Disney composer of all time?
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A movie that arguably was the one Disney movie that could have an interesting sequel.
I too am not a fan of the recent, troubled genius with Batman-like detective skills without even doing any detective work.
So I agree, this mouse version is the most accurate version. We SEE him put 2 and 2 together and not monologue about it (RDJ version)
Jesus Christ
GMD and Robin Hood are certainly two of the best, let's be honest.
Would like more but I'm just happy there's some quality ones
Plus a decent amount have my fetish so that pleases me
I would just like to see more Basil fanart in general. He's really handsome.
Based!. My favorite Disney movie.
I always get kinda sad at the end credit song
R.I.P Ingham
What kind of fanart would you like to see?
I'd make some if I could
My favorite Disney movie of all time. It's so good. Thanks for posting this thread OP, I'm going to look up a stream and watch this before I go to bed :)
>I-I-er-ah-
That sounds fuckin hot
my EARS
Some drawings of Basil just being his hyperactive cutesy-handsome self would be nice. :-)
>Ratigan befriends a vain, classy giantess
There's definitely something there
Not into what is effectively a regular dog myself but the concept is interesting
I actually think it's just those two and Winnie the Pooh that are even good. There's things to like in some of the others but they don't work as complete films.
Me too, but Georgette is my only exception
Or better, Georgette eats Ratigan
Definitive ranking, best to worst:
Robin Hood
The Jungle Book
Oliver & Company
The Great Mouse Detective
One Hundred and One Dalmatians
The Fox and the Hound
The Little Mermaid
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
The Aristocats
The Sword in the Stone
The Rescuers
The Black Cauldron
>The Little Mermaid that low
>The Little Mermaid included in this era at all
>The Jungle Book better than GMD
>The Sword in the Stone and The Rescuers that low
First guy specified Xerox period. Disney only switched over to CAPS with The Rescuers Down Under.
>rightmost pic
Scooby Doo! Is that you?
Ehhh...
>Little Mermaid
>Great Mouse Detective
>Oliver & Company
>101 Dalmatians
>Jungle Book
>Pooh
>Fox and the Hound
>Robin Hood
>Aristocats
>Sword in the Stone
>Rescuers
>Black Cauldron
Georgette fucked everyone in that setup, and then fucked the rest of Fagan's gang too. And yes, that includes Rita and Oliver.
Isn't it? Looking forwards to those two anons fighting on a clocktower or on the Reichenbach Falls.
The Great user Detective: worthy of an Oscar, or worthy of MANY Oscars?
Many MANY Oscars, my friend.
Quick, Yea Forums, to your word processors and drawing boards. Let's continue the adventures of Basil of Baker Street! Who's with me?
It's great, but I do have legit criticisms. It doesn't go enough places. Doesn't build a real mystery. The emotional journey feels really unnecessary. And things like Miss Kitty don't really pay off for the time it took to insert them.
All of them
>oscilloscope
>cathode ray tubes
>Victorian London
Does not compute.
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No. Don't do that. You stop that right now.
sauce?
Googled 'Anabean' and nothing came up
basil and adult olivia kissing
>movie set in June 1897
>electromechanical oscilloscope invented by French physicist André Blondel in 1893
>cathode rays discovered by Johann Wilhelm Hittorf in 1869
>earliest version of the CRT, known as the "Braun tube", invented by German physicist Ferdinand Braun in 1897
I had to look all this stuff up to make this comic and the least you could do is appreciate the effort.
i love you please draw more
Needs a slight change to her uniform.
What if she's so intelligent because she's a detective herself on her own quest, and pure coincidence put her under cover in that club on that night?
It's pretty common fanon that Freya has an Irish accent.
Reminder that Miss. Flangadoodle is just old enough to lose her husband and sons in WW1.
Assuming you mean Olivia, husband maybe, sons surely not.
That part in the movie when Ratigan feeds a mouse to Felicia the cat..
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The scene fucked with my head as a kid to the point where I did not like the movie..
It wasn't till later in life that I began to Appreciate this film..
How... Voriffic...
Nah don't listen to them these images are amazing
>The Fox and the Hound not at the top
>The Little Mermaid that high
>The Aristocats and The Rescuers that low.
Your list is cute, but ultimateley shit.
imagine the smell
>he even sings the Japanese part
Used to be my favorite movie as a kid. Made me want to be a detective.
What are your favorites?
I know they're the "Hard-boiled detective" rather then Sherlock, but I really like Dashiel Hammet and Raymond Chandler.
One of my favorite movies.
>Best FF. Where was this in Kingdom Hearts.
It always genuinely bothered me that Kingdom Hearts went out of its way to focus on the popular angsty Final Fantasy characters that looked completely out of place standing alongside Sora, instead of bringing in the more colorful FFIX crew for some light-hearted antics.
Cultured villains with a hair trigger temper are always unnerving. Its like if someone stretched a thin human skin over a monster, and you're not sure when the monster's going to rip the skin off and kill someone.
Kingdom Hearts has completely discarded and abandoned Final Fantasy by now. Sephiroth wasn't even in 3.
You stop that right now.
Fidget was the reason I had a difficult time watching the movie, I always got scared when he popped out. Felicia was creepy too, but she just didn't bother me nearly as much as that damn bat
The dev wants what he wants.
Organization 13 absolutely should've been the final fantasy villains showing up instead of these lame fuckers, but hey, the final fantasy brand's been so crashed into the ground no one even cares that it's barely a crossover anymore.
Imagine what Freya's thighs are like.
This would be hotter if Georgette ate the mouse.
I always do.
Source?
It's great, this is authentic British weather and it adds depth and mystery to the tense action. You shouldn't be able to see the details easily, only what Sherlock Mouse is experiencing.
Tick Tock Clock and Clock Tower in Majora's Mask owe a lot to this scene.
I love how much you trace the pedigree of Nintendo content to western inspiration pretty much every time. Like how the Master Sword is this one blade made by nazis for a ceremony, or how the Dolphin in Pikmin is a reskin of the rocket in a Grand Day Out.
Underrated post. He is very pretty.
>Or the Emperor's New Groove.
Good taste, user.
The Sword in the Stone is based and ought to be higher. The Black Cauldron however deserves that bottom stop, the art may be good but the voice acting and stiff plot leave a lot to be desired.
Odds of some random girl knowing these cutting edge discoveries being minimal, what exactly is the back story behind muh love interest?
Hahaha, imagine if she used her jump skill to ticked you to the ground with her legs and then pin you by grabbing your head between her things.
Hilarious, right?
Word travels fast if you are interested in something
Someone wrote that Basil would be turned on by intelligence instead of looks. That just sparked my imagination for a couple of fun drawings.
I always found it weird that stripper mouse had an American accent.
Sauce plz. Can't find it on e621
I really like hearing about famous live action actors embracing voice acting.
Source on this, friend?
Standing Tough. You can get them with the tag 'standing_tough'.
I wholeheartedly agree! We need more fanart of Basil looking dapper and dashing!
The Sword in the Stone isn't even a complete story arc, it's like a really drawn out prologue.
A slim mouse speaks to me on many levels
That goes for most of us, user. :-D
bump
Would be fun if it was an Irene Alder character.
What the hell happened in here?
>western inspiration
The clock tower scene in GMD was itself inspired by the one in Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro.
>Mods remove comments calling out mods removing comments calling Basil handsome without anything sexual
Imagine being this mad about cartoons
They definitely came to the right place
That's fucking great
There definitely is a noticeable absence of an expy Irene in Great Mouse Detective. Does anyone know if the books had a version of her, or no?
Is there somewhere we can read the books online?
Yeah, there was an opera singer in one of the books named Relda, which is considerably less imaginative than the other names.
Do post them, friend!
The pause in rain may be a bit of clever direction to make you focus on Ratiga now that the visual noise and confusion is gone.
The two of them have already been posted.
Is the Basil portion added to the movie's name in other countries?
In about every other language, yes.
Except Japanese where it's Olivia's Great Adventure.
When I was a child I had a crush on Ratigan. How I didn't become a furry I'll never know.
>The Great Mouse Detective is called "Olivia's Great Adventure" in Japan
>Wreck-It Ralph is called "Sugar Rush" in Japan
>Frozen is called "Anna and the Snow Queen" in Japan
>Tangled is called "On the Tower of Rapunzel" in Japan
Why Japan always gotta retitle Disney movies to focus on the lolis?
Also Brave is "Merida and the Forest of Fear"
I gotta admit, the Japanese titles for Brave, Tangled and Frozen sound more like proper Disney/fairy tale titles than the Dreamworks sounding bullshit we got in the US.
Calarts smile
Having teeth doesn't make it calarts. It's significantly better designed
Only two of those characters are actual lolis.
>Why
Market to kids, of course.
It looks much better than the Calarts style, I can tell you that much.
I know there's a Navy Seal Copypasta version for Rattigan, but I can't find it no matter how hard I try.