WAS: Washington trades up for DE Montez Sweat BAL: Ravens land Marquise 'Hollywood' Brown at 25 OAK: Raiders make Josh Jacobs first RB off board PHI: Eagles trade up to 22 for OT Andre Dillard GB: Packers trade up for S/CB Darnell Savage DEN: Broncos take TE Noah Fant at No. 20 overall TEN: Titans select ACL'd Jeffery Simmons at No. 19 WAS: Redskins get their guy, take Haskins at 15 MIA: Dolphins take Christian Wilkins at 13th pick SF: Lynch: SF not trying to trade Solomon Thomas
>Grade your teams 1st round >Grade other teams 1st round and talk shit >tfw Ive lost faith in mike mayock but Im still gonna blame gruden
>synder shooked gentlemen into thinking they were going to take daniel jones 15th overall. >caused them to use a 6th round pick for daniel fucking jones. >Redskins are officially not the worse front office in nfce.
Aaron Johnson
I really wanted jeff tillery from ND
WHO HERE /draftingasafetyinthe2nd/????? taylor rapp for that sweet all white safety tandem please
Mason Robinson
>With the 32nd pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the New England Patriots have traded with (X) for 3 6th rounders and a 2020 3rd round compensatory pick
Cooper Ortiz
imagine getting clowned by bruce fucking allen lmao.
Gavin Perry
Did you miss me /nflg/? Haven't posted here for months. Please don't tell me the autistic Kiwi is still posting here 24/7.
By trading down from #21, the Seahawks got #30, #114 & #118 from the Packers
no surprise the Hawks took an EDGE at 29, as at #21, they had the Seahawks going: >EGDE Rashan Gary/Rashan Gary/Rashan Gary/Rashan Gary/Rashan Gary/Rashan Gary/Rashan Gary >EGDE Jaylon Ferguson >EGDE Montez Sweat/Montez Sweat/Montez Sweat/ >EGDE Brian Burns/Brian Burns/Brian Burns >EGDE Clelin Ferrell/Clelin Ferrell/Clelin Ferrell/Clelin Ferrell/Clelin Ferrell >WR D.K. Metcalf/N’Keal Harry
at #29, two of them had the Hawks: >trade down out of the 1st >trade down out of the 1st
so no surprise they just traded their #30 pick
Jace Evans
Gnats took 3 Ds tonight
Brody Long
?. I guess its new friend central here during the draft.
Thomas Allen
Lock shouldn’t have even been picked in the first round
Ryan Reed
wonder what OT the Pats are gonna take now
Mason Reyes
Fucking Les Snead not drafting Murphy.
Juan Cook
so did your mom
Colton Stewart
Ok. Who won tonight’s draft? Who lost tonight’s draft?
Cameron Roberts
seriously go to bed and stop crying NEET
Kevin Hall
>Who lost Gnats >Who won Every team that didn't spend a top-10 pick on Daniel Jones
Nathaniel Phillips
Cringe. Hope some of my nflg bros are still here.
Cameron Kelly
Cardinals lost
Jaxon Wood
no way. I mean youre right about the reach. but those stats? that talent? dude had a great career and could be coached up if you believe in his brains.
>packers and lions bitching about drafting BPA yeah taking the best safety and TE in the draft sure were stupid ideas.
Alexander Price
>who won Redskins >who lost Giants
Caleb Walker
Pats took WR N'Keal Harry
Andrew King
That only thing cringe is how much you are crying how how much you are breaking your mother's heart for being an utter failure
Joshua Torres
Who? Let me guess, this guy will be good like Michel.
no surprise, like Desmond and Herbstriet predicted, Pats get a weapon for Brady at #32
WR Marquise Brown - 12/12/19/19/19/22/22/22/22/22/24/25/25/25/27/27/27/30/32 WR D.K. Metcalf - 15/17/21/22/26/26/29/30/32 WR A.J. Brown - 32/32/32/32 *WR N'Keal Harry - 21/29/29* WR Hakeem Butler - 26/32 WR Parris Campbell - 22
at 32 the most popular picks for the Patriots were WR and TE: >WR Marquise Brown/A.J. Brown/WR A.J. Brown/A.J. Brown/A.J. Brown/D.K. Metcalf/Hakeem Butler >TE Noah Fant/Noah Fant/TE Irv Smith Jr. >QB Daniel Jones/Drew Lock >OT Dalton Risner >DT Jeffery Simmons/DT Jerry Tillery >CB Joejuan Williams/CB Joejuan Williams >EDGE Clelin Ferrell >S Darnell Savage >trade down out of the 1st >trade down out of the 1st
Lucas Johnson
>Who lost tonight’s draft? Every irl person at the draft that had to pretend to lose their shit on camera for their team drafting a guard
Brainlets will hate it but it's about 2 years past time for the Falcons to pick some badass linemen, how quickly the idiots forget the last time Matt Ryan was properly protected the offense was basically unstoppable, probably a pretty safe bet the rest of the draft will be on defense
He was really exciting what little I saw of him in college. Not a significant deep threat but should be the type of agile guy that Brady thrives with and ultimately Edelman's replacement. Much better a pick at WR than D.K "slower cuts than Tom Brady" Metcalf.
kinda stunned that there wasn't a run on WR like I thought could happen near the end of Round 1
Adam Price
>who won nobody. the first round sucks. real niggas are all about rounds 2 to 5. >who lost giants. easily. also steelers for not realizing that linebackers can be got in any fucking round.
>broncos go full tank mode for trevor lawrence and install him on a team with a 1985 bears level defense I swear to god its like the broncos have a genius GM and a fucking moron at GM and they let them take turns making picks.
Ayden Richardson
too bad his noodle arm won't be able to get the ball into his hands
Owen Hughes
nice job on Oliver. I was 100% sure the bills would go oline even if he were available
Angel Collins
>Kiwi is back to shit on Brady Make it stop
Caleb Russell
Quick rundown on Gary?
Daniel Wright
9/10 in a rational world this is what the draft would have looked like
Elijah Sanchez
gary might be a little bit of a project, but who the fuck knows. clay matthews was a project until his first nfl game. at least gary can be put into a rotation savage seems like a reach, but they probably had to hop over both raiders picks. Rather leap to far for a guy, and the cost wasnt bad at all. I love a GM that makes the moves to get the guys he likes appreciate the honesty
Jace Adams
I think the Cardinals fucked up the hardest, with the Giants and Raiders close behind.
Parker Jackson
was the #1 recruit in his signing class at Michigan but he never really produced and was always injured
will probably need a great D-line coach to maximize the potential he never achieved under harbaugh
Jose King
>nigger wr so dumb he cant comprehend which way to break on option routes he'll be pratice squad by week 6
Ayden Morales
>Who lost tonight’s draft? Giants and Packers will be the most criticized for how they managed their 1stR
Jaxon Wood
So why did Bill draft him?
Josiah Perez
honestly the colts and seahawks should have just stayed put and drafted their guys especially the colts. they need players bad, but trade down and make no FA splashes because the GM is terrified of overpaying for somebody. Good teams can have at least a few overpaid players
Matthew Hill
QB's arm strength doesn't fall off much from age, it's their feet and pocket prescience that goes.
Beyond that, Brady was still throwing absolute darts 40~50 yards down field the few times his busted up receiver corps got anywhere last season.
falcons way more than packers. last year packers leapt up to draft a corner nobody mocked in the first round and he turned out to be the second best corner out of the draft, falcons got 2 oline and traded back into the first for the latter, while still needing some players on defense
Kayden Campbell
Not too mad about the Savage pick. He was shooting up the boards and had some mock drafts having him picked in the 20s.
The Gary pick made me Reeeeeeeeeee
Nathan Lee
based russia bro. glad youre still alive and up at 4am watching the draft.
you excited about the browns this year my brat? I think if they browns can get an actual white TE this draft the could have the best passing attack in the AFC just off talent мoй бpaт.
any TE you like right now? hope you guys draft kaden smith or kahale warring.
Nathaniel Murphy
>quinnen williams falling to 7 well, almost as weird as what actually happened i guess
Adrian Murphy
>Cowboys. >Confirmed no future 2019 1st round busts drafted. A+ first round for my Boys.
Bungles were going for Bush,also with Ben’s window closing in Colbert grew a pair and made a great trade well I’m cool with it
Julian Stewart
I was wishing they had picked Taylor, Ford or Dillard instead of who they got, but then only Dillard got picked and it was all the way back at 24. So they probably got the right guys.
>Oh no. OHHH NOOOOO. Mike Mayock, what are you doing? >This is insane. ... the value with this pick is absolutely terrible. He fills a need, but wow, this is bad
>Murray absolute shit tier pick. fucking retarded in every sense. >Bosa good pick, but I'm a little worried he won't live up to potential >Williams good pick, but I'm a little worried he's a one-year wonder >Ferrell holy shit Raiders are fucking stupid poo poo heads >White great pick, already drawing Ray Lewis comps >Jones HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH (breathes in) HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH >Allen great pick, steal >Hockenson great pick, literally Gronk 2 >Oliver great pick, steal >Bush pretty fucking good pick. broncos will be really scary next year >Williams all-pro guard. if they play him at tackle he won't be good though >Gary bust city lmoa >Wilkins pretty good pick, nothing to see here >Lindstrom massive fucking reach but another good OL >Haskins I can see him either as a top tier starter or a huge bust. too early to tell with this pick but if he's any good he's the steal of the draft >Burns bust, Mingo 2.0 >Lawrence decent player, but the Titans really need WR help >Bradbury good pick, best C in the draft >Simmons fucking woman beater and also a bust lmoa >Fant good pick >Savage reach but he's OK >Dillard bust >Howard reach >Jacobs bust >Brown would be good. strange that they drafted a WR without a QB on the team though >Sweat great pick, steal >Abram meh >Tillery reach but they don't really have that many needs, and the big boards between 15 and 75 are a crapshoot, so he may have been BPA to the Chargers FO >Collier another massive fucking reach. 3rd rounder >Baker great pick, too bad you fucked it up otherwise >McGary decent pick >Harry fantastic pick, steal
Jeremiah Baker
Possibly best QB and definitely a top 10 defensive talent in one round. Pretty based 1st round
Cooper Powell
>Haskins >trusting black QBs ever ishygddt
Austin Martin
I agree. It would be nice if >we could get a hold of a good RB prospect too.
Better than expected. At least better than the Giants and the fucking Raiders, who reached on all picks.
Mason Torres
the raiders drafted the 2nd best pure DE after BOSA instead of going after a bunch of undersized OLB's that are gonna get stunted on in the league when their bullshit one trick pony moves dont work >WHAT A FUCKING MORON
guys. ferrell wasnt a reach at all. he can play all over the line and is more solid than any other DE besides bosa in the draft. you want to make fun? they drafted a RB in the 1st. in 2019. a RB. in the 1st. but they had 3 picks so I guess its not so bad. but then again >bama RB's always crashing the same car cause niggers never learn. enjoy tj yeldon 2.0 you fucking spics.
Boomers hate the dolphin’s new logo for absolutely no fucking reason other than that it looks presentable
Jack Rogers
>Let’s put it this way: The one thing we can say with relative certainty is that you aren’t going to top your college rate stats in the pros. Jones averaged 5.45 adjusted net yards per pass attempt in college. Among this year’s prospects, that was better than only Thorson. Here are the NFL QBs who averaged worse than that in 2018: Case Keenum, Blake Bortles, Ryan Tannehill, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, and Josh Rosen.
>So his ceiling is 2018 Blake Bortles. Cool. Cool, cool, cool.
Samuel Foster
>first pick is in the second round in the draft >another second round exit in the playoffs Pottery
Matthew James
>Pats drafted a WR in the 1st Holy shit
Thomas Harris
Bears Claws down
Luke Robinson
I've seen Allen play live, and Josh Allen was the guy, there
David Young
Who's dumber the tards or the gnats? Gotta be the gnats yeah? But at least their qb isn't a midget... Damn I can't fucking decide.
Caleb Adams
yup with Thomas and harry along with Edelman that receiving core is all of the sudden scary when it was shit last year.
Aaron Brooks
Green Bay Packers: Rashan Gary, DE/DT, Michigan >D Grade. Rashan Gary is insanely athletic and physically talented, but he was a huge disappointment as a player in Michigan. In the 20s would've been a reasonable spot to select him. Not here, though. This is a major reach. If Gary couldn't produce in college, why would that suddenly happen when he has an NFL contract?
snyder fucking shooked them with rumors about him wanting jones and forcing them to waste the 6th overall pick on him lmao. thanks. Jay cucking his brother by taking Sweat before he did was great.
Asher Morris
you have a good post here. 1. bush went to the steelers 2. tillery is gonna be a fucking beasat of a DT in the league and should have gone top 15 3. people calling picks REACHES based off position
if you draft a 10 year FS, G, K, P, or any other position its worth a 1st rounder. any position can be worth a 1st. any starter. and so what if you get some middle of the pack guy. as long as he gets a 2nd contract instead of being let go once his rookie contract is up and you beat the odds.
Good year to need a safety lads. I really missed talking draft with you guys.
Next level DLine coaches? I’m not happy with the pick but if Pettine puts him in the right situations and Montgomery coaches him up a bit there’s upside. Just trying to be optimistic desu still don’t like the pick
Grayson Green
Those are my thoughts. As a GM I’d never take a “project” at #12 overall, that’s where you take a guy with a resume and a great chance of starting. But we’ll see.
Guy sounds like a big retard who coasted in high school then flopped when faced with real adversity and demand to adapt.
some team put out fake news about daniel jones for sure
Grayson Clark
How many quarterbacks do the Redskins need exactly? What was the point of bringing in Keenum if Haskins'll be playing by week four anyway? Colt McCoy was already a capable backup who really isn't any better or worse than Keenum. Also what if Alex Smith actually does end up returning during the course of next season? Are they just going to have three gorrilion bazillion dollars ride the bench?
God dammit, the Haskins pick was good but there's obviously no fucking plan here; just throwing money at problems endlessly like always.
Carson Ward
midgets undoubtly.
jones would have still been there in the 3rd.
Dylan Cooper
THE CARDS HAD EVERYONE IN THEIR FUCKING LAP THINK ABOUT THIS LOGICALLY
Julian Lopez
are you fucking kidding the old logo was so fucking classy. the new one has no class at all
Colt just got another operation done. Alex smith probably won't ever play again. This was a solid move and Case Keenum was picked up in an attempt to get Rosen but they don't mind keeping him for cheap.
Charles Powell
murray's upside is a lot better than daniel jones, even if he is 5'8.
at least murray mobility can save their awful line a bit, unline jones.
Aiden Green
Heyyyyy. I'd be happy with that.
Hudson Bell
Why the fuck the packers didn't take Burnes at 12 instead of this retard is beyond me.
Looking at Burnes he's the clear cut choice above anyone else.
Gardner Minshew's upside is better than Daniel Jones'. LaMeme suddenly growing an arm is more likely than Jones developing. Giants are tanking for Lawrence
Jayden Rodriguez
What was with all the black guys with horses
James Cook
holy shit is this the worst draft pick of all time?
Patriots bandwagoner here. Is that nigga that got drafter at WR any good?
Tyler Bailey
OMFG. Is gettleman an alcoholic who the fuck does this shit let alone admit it with pride? Seriously I'm going to become an NFL GM if this is all I have to do.
Christopher Clark
>people still think pete and john can still make good draft picks because of '11-'12
this duo been garbage ever since. only reason frank clark fell to us is because he beat his gf and pete only drafted lockette to be a returner and luck out.
good god, this is as bad as when the Ray Farmer drafted Justin Gilbert despite never having interviewed or watched his Pro Day
Sebastian Turner
Does the name Johnny Manziel mean anything to you?
Ryan Ramirez
waiting on hold nyc radio, any suggestions for what to say?
Samuel White
wait,wasn’t only Devin White?
Joshua Sanders
>leaving yourself with only two years of a qb's rookie contract.
this is hilarious, they managed to get fucking schlonged by synder.
Blake Martin
>t-t-thanks Dude you didn't do anything don't say thank you faggot
Henry Bennett
>Tanking for an obvious bust Tanking for Lawrence
Lucas Clark
>keeping Eli for three more years
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THE GIANTS
Connor Bell
Green Bay Packers: Darnell Savage, S, Maryland >grade: MALFUNCTION, FARMER FAIL, SUCKAGE, TRAGEDY, CALAMITY, SUFFERIN SUCCOTASH (I hope you like the new addition to the "F" grade. It's well deserved after what happened at No. 4 tonight by the Raiders) >This is an another "F" grade all the way. Darnell Savage is a second-round prospect who may have snuck into the bottom end of the first round. There was absolutely no reason to move up nine spots for him. He, or someone very comparable to him, would've been available at No. 30 overall. I wouldn't have minded the Packers taking Savage had they remained at their own choice, but giving up resources for poor value is just a recipe for disaster.
Johnny Manziel was a competent starter in college. Daniel Jones was a literal who
Brayden Rodriguez
>everyone talking shit on the daniel jones pick >the redskins drafted another nigger QB I can tell you right now who I have more faith in. and I admit haskins was the best pocket QB in the draft. but that doesnt change his nigger IQ. hes teddy bridgewater without the charisma. say what you want about the giants but at least they didnt bet on black. I'd rather put money on china winning the gold in the 100m next olympics than a nigger winning a spelling bee.
haskins is gonna have a good rookie season and just fall apart and be out of the league after his 5th year option. you know like every other negro QB ever. Im looking at you winston. and this coon cant even run. looks like eli when he tucks the ball.
Ryder White
Just name every other QB in the draft and say that any one of them will throw less picks per attempt than that hesitant, stare-down, pass floater
Jordan Roberts
Yea Forums is a free speech board reddit faggot
Noah Kelly
What would you do if your team got baited by the Redskins this hard?
I think I am going to mention how they could have gotten this QB at 17 or 12-15 and then mention that they didnt trade for Rosen because he is black or draft Haskins because he is jewish
Zachary Walker
Snyder didn't is how
Aaron Jones
Only advancing the animal heads. This is fucking retarded.
James Martin
yankees are still playing wfan isnt on the air
Brandon Barnes
>didnt trade for Rosen because he is black or draft Haskins because he is jewish.
really makes me think.
Hudson Turner
All your trash talking is stupid af. First of all Jones has size, speed , and arm strength. Nothing like Eli at all you morons. I swear you assholes get jealous of my team every fucking year over something. Keep up with your cope though.
Asher Anderson
are Gnats fans this dumb? Jones > "Prime" Eli
Jason Hughes
Who really made the worst>us or the giants?
Josiah Wright
Take out Mason Foster for Shawn Dion Hamilton, do the Redskins, dare I say, have the best front seven in the nfl?
Ed Oliver's potential is undeniable but he had injuries and character concerns in his junior year
TJ Hockenson is a sure bet in producing year one, providing receiving yardage, and opening up lanes in blocking for Kerryon to run through but I think they had more pressing needs. The draft is deep in passrushers though
Nathaniel Moore
You
Cooper Jones
How good is Hockenson?
Gavin Gray
what team is "us"
Grayson Stewart
thomas is old coming off a serious injury he's not gonna scare anyone delusional bitch
Noah Williams
does anybody else smell that? smells like 3 day old wine flavored black and milds smoke on a hoodie filled with watermelon flavored starburst wrappers and hot cheetos dust on both sleeves.
haskins is gonna get suffocated by NFL defenses.
Caleb Anderson
kneeling in 3...2...
Cameron Taylor
the numbers... what do they mean?
Luis Green
Jesse James was a bandaid at best, loins NEEDED a good TE
Blake Morris
From what I have seen, Will Grier makes the smarter decisions when compared to Lock, but his arm strength isn't there yet, so he is going to benefit being behind another QB for a few years.
Please put your trip back on getatan so i can filter your stupid ass posts.
Leo Miller
You have to go back
Kevin Foster
Chiefs ban Tyreek Hill from offseason workouts Posted by Mike Florio on April 26, 2019, 12:37 AM EDT
Getty Images The story of draft day came roughly an hour before the draft started.
Chiefs receiver Tyreek Hill, one of the best players in the league who not long ago was on the brink of a new contract that perhaps would have paid him upwards of $20 million per year, will no longer be participating in offseason workouts.
G.M. Brett Veach told reporters in a late-night, end-of-round-one press conference that, in light of the audio that emerged on Thursday evening of Hill and Crystal Espinal discussing the events that led to their three-year-old son suffering a broken arm, Hill will not be taking part in any team activities.
“We were deeply disturbed by what we heard, we were deeply concerned,” Veach told reporters. “We decided that at this time and for the foreseeable future, Tyreek Hill will not take part in any team activities. We are going to gather more information, we’re going to evaluate this information, and we will make the right decision regarding Tyreek Hill.”
Barring evidence that the audio was doctored or falsified in any way, the right decision — the only decision — is to permanently sever ties with Tyreek Hill.
>its real PFFFFFFFFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA Who does Mahomes have left? Kelce?
Colton Smith
This isn't even true. Daniel Jones was always projected to go in the first round, but it was a toss up between Haskins, Lock, Grier, and Jones. He was certainly NOT a nobody.
Gabriel Hernandez
just put on WFAN to hear some giant outrage, what the fuck is wrong with this guys voice
Ian Sullivan
Secret recording of him talking with his gf
Andrew Allen
>true. Daniel Jones was always projected to go in the first round t. Daniel Jones
Grayson Carter
Whoever they draft in the next two days
Anthony Martin
Not exactly a great blocker, but will make an impact on a receiving core.
Jaxon Anderson
Hes probably doing real time. How the fuck can you end up in jail with all that money you stupid fuck, Stallworth fucking killed somebody and got off
Julian Anderson
everything you idiot, watch the fucking games. I bet you'd love Murray or Haskins, two double digit IQ niggers
James Martinez
I don’t know what’s worse, his voice or his brainlet takes
Jacob Myers
My raiders
Christian Moore
Hot Take, as a Packer fan I'm actually pretty happy with our first round. Two fast, dynamic defensive players is exactly what a new DC needs. They might not have been slam dunks, but they both have alot of upside.
Blake Price
>New England Patriots: N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State >A- Grade >I mocked Parris Campbell to the Patriots for weeks, but it ended up being another receiver. N'Keal Harry makes just as much sense as Campbell, so I like this pick. Harry was highly productive at Arizona State, but had some speed concerns. He proved his detractors wrong at the combine, elevating himself into the first round. He should be a terrific downfield weapon in the final years of Tom Brady's career
Giants. I actually heard good things about Ferrell but he fits more of a 3-4 versatile scheme from what I heard so yeah man idk. What D does Gruden run these days modified 4-3 Tampa 2 with modified Seattle cover 3/and man concepts?
Lucas Garcia
He was a nobody for anyone who actually watched him play. Seriously. Go watch a Duke game from last year. The dude has no confidence on the field, and corners jump on his passes because he stares down receivers. He's gonna be eaten alive in the league, dude
Christopher Cox
no. making black people read is a sadistic practice I enjoy more than a 5th grade elementary teachers smiling while jerdavious mispronounces "confident" for the third time while it takes him seven minutes to read a fucking paragraph out loud from a fucking harry potter book.
there's still DEs to be had in the draft and you have time to go BPA, at the very worst he'll be a good redzone target/3rd option for Stafford to throw to
Jason Perez
No seriously, you either haven't been paying attention to QB prospects or you are baiting, but Murray, Lock, Haskins, Jones, and Grier were the top 5 QB propects in the draft.
Adrian Torres
The Bills unironically have a top 3 defense
Blake Kelly
I've been paying very close attention. Jones has only been getting attention since the Senior Bowl, before which he was expected to go in the 4th. That's also when Gettleman said he first learned about Jones.
No, you really haven't. Don't take me for a giants apologist either, but Daniel Jones has repeated made good decisions on where to put the ball while in the pocket. You also need to consider that a lot of the player around him were not that good either. He really is not a bad pick, and if the giants were paranoid that someone else was going to snipe him, that is a valid concern. You forgot when people mocked the patriots taking him at 32.
Sebastian Harris
26. Washington Redskins: Montez Sweat, DE/OLB, Mississippi State >A+ Grade >The Redskins lost Preston Smith in free agency, so they needed a potent edge rusher. Sweat is even more than that. Had it not been for a potentially misdiagnosed heart condition, Sweat would've been a top-10 selection in this class. Given the misdiagnosis, there doesn't appear to be any concern with Sweat, making this an absolute steal. Despite the Redskins trading a 2020 second-round choice, this is one of the best picks of the 2019 NFL Draft thus far.
i don't have >us taking a TE. Njoku is completely fine by me as a solid redzone threat who can still get better with age. I don't give a shit about his race we could use a little more depth at the position, but I wouldn't spend anything more than a late 5th rounder on a TE
I hate this gay league. Im not even a chiefs fan but he's legit the most exciting player in this league. Fuck it no charges it never fucking happened we don't even know if he meant to break the kids arm accidents happen the kid isn't broken for life fuck this pussy ass society and faggot ass roger Goodell i wish someone would beat his soft ass and spit on his goddamn battered and bruised body. This shit is killing the league its not the rules or the fucking protests its that the best fucking players aren't allowed to play because the NFL is afraid of moralfags on Twitter and gay ass fucking cancel culture FUCK GREG HARDY SHOULD HAVE MURDERED TOM BRADY ON LIVE TV BY NOW FUCK!!!!!
Caleb Johnson
have you ever watched football in your life? the first pick in the draft had a huge pocket for every throw and still chucked meme passes that would get picked in the NFL. College football has about 1/10th of the talent as the NFL.
Robert Rogers
And as an addition, don't even get me started on how everyone on nesn radio was projecting Jones to already be taken when the patriots got around to picking.
Samuel Morris
God that makes me rock hard
Benjamin Brooks
hes not WFAN, the yankees postgame is on WFAN. it will be a little while before the calls. Im on hold with ESPN radio but going to call WFAN as soon as they put the host on
Kayden Butler
I'm not an Yea Forums guy so I don't get the "Snyder played the Giants" meme
>giving the tape that screws your fiance and breadwinner to a random friend and not a close family member or even a lawyer wew that girl made the right move
Hudson Hall
You're back at last! How's all that dick taste, fucker?
Lincoln Wilson
I'll admit Jones had fuck all to work with but the YPA and the decision making didn't really convince me he was worth a 1st rounder, let alone top 10
Jackson Fisher
black QB good white QB bad
Dominic Nelson
That's real business, he's getting a year away from the league at minimum. Outright ban if it gets national attention.
Nathan Howard
lol
Thomas Perez
DEMEMIFY YOU NIG
Matthew Lee
he's at Duke playing Florida State and Clemson, Elway went 1-10 with Stanford. get a clue pal
Ian Bell
You’re about 30 posts late there bud
Jacob Wilson
DO IT AGAIN TYREEK BEAT THAT HOES FACE IN
David Scott
>arguing with aussie brady hater
Noah Robinson
Seeth harder Chiefs nigger
Mason Collins
it's all over the news and social media, his ass is cooked
Owen Rogers
What does Murray have to do with anything? I'm saying Jones is not an NFL talent because he's hesitant, and he overthrows receivers like a motherfucker. The talent around him is what made plays for him half the time. He has some good qualities, but he's a major project if you want him anywhere close to being a starter. Jones is not a top 10 pick unless you think height determines ability
Colton Parker
You sometimes see film of him where it takes 3 fucking DBs to bring him down. Its fucking crazy how many Yards After the Catch he gets.
Josiah Murphy
Redskins won hands down. Their defense is a monster this season
Carson Watson
>potentially misdiagnosed heart condition
What the fuck does that mean?
Noah Martin
yeah retard, he has a O Line that will be dentists and lawyers in 2 years, Oklahoma has a GOAT O Line.
Brayden Myers
there were rumors that redskins were going to take jones with the 15th pick, so they shooked the midgets into using the 6th overall pick on him lmao.
Zachary Moore
Friendly reminder that Phil Simms was selected in nearly the same range as Daniel Jones and he was VICIOUSLY booed by fans. And this is all pre-Twitter.
Fuck he could be the next tom brady, all im saying is that he definitely would have been there at 17 and then you could have josh allen AND jones.
As a jags fan, i aint complaining. Thank youuuuu, gettleman!
Noah Wood
So you're saying that you should look at the mechanics, and not the stats? Good idea. He jumps around in the pocket like he's constantly looking to take off, and it affects his throwing motion. Half of the incompletions he threw were massive overthrows that would get picked by any decent NFL safety
Joshua Davis
His talent did very little to help him. But I am tired of this argument. So I'm just going to point you to a full film analysis of his QB play. youtube.com/watch?v=WbfeNHA9Yvg
Robert Smith
because simms was a shit quarterback throughout his career.
Connor Watson
Again. Not talking about Murray. I think Murray will be decent at best, and Cards made a bad decision. Jones was also a bad decision, because he's not good at playing the QB position
Easton Martin
Elway at least passed for 3000+ yards in his final season and had a career YPA over 7. Duke's offense is booty but it's not like he was playing amazing in vain
Zachary Long
>media "analysis" why even bother with this trash gary seems like clowny 2.0, and savage had nickel experience and lightning speed. dont understand the hate
Camden Morris
People thought he had like a 2.0 heart wall, when it was closer to being 1.5
Luis Clark
At best, if you threw him into the current NFL at week one, he would be a carbon copy of Alex Smith.
Angel Cooper
Literally the first throw that's shown in that montage would get picked in the league. A fucking meatball to a receiver he was staring down
Levi Mitchell
I am an Arizona Cardinals fan.
Luke Morris
except he is by every metric, YPA is not an argument when you're throwing to nobodies
Easton Miller
Are you insinuating Simms was good?
Jeremiah Peterson
sorry.
Luis Bell
So shitty that he had one of the single greatest individual performances in Super Bowl history, sure.
Jeremiah Jones
>Pittsburgh Steelers: Devin Bush, LB, >Michigan A Grade >I love this move. The Steelers have needed a replacement for Ryan Shazier ever since he suffered his horrible spinal injury on that fateful Monday night. There was no way in the world Devin Bush was going to fall to No. 20. Pittsburgh recognized that and made the jump for Bush. The Michigan product is extremely athletic and was highly productive at Michigan. He was also a team captain. He'll instantly establish himself as a team leader for Pittsburgh. I know the Steelers gave up resources to get Bush, yet the 2020 first-round pick wasn't included, which is huge. This was a move the Steelers had to make to restore their defense to its former dominance.
draft is deeper for tight ends and they seldom produce in their first year. seems like a pick that fills a need more than BPA
Jace Adams
you're just making shit up now, he's clearly reading short throws at an elite level
Dominic Reyes
You can see the corner breaking on the ball. If the cb had NFL speed, that ball is picked
Ethan Reyes
>OH NO I HOPE SOMEBODY DOESNT EAT ALL THE RAINBOW SHERBERT ICE CREAM BEFORE I GET TO BASKIN ROBBINS >MY FAVORITE FLAVOR IS RAINBOW SHERBERT. ONLY STUPID PEOPLE ENJOY ROCKY ROAD ICE CREAM. >OH NO DAVE GETTLEMAN ORDERED ALL THE RAINBOW SHERBERT ICE CREAM. NOW IM STUCK WITH ONLY ROCKY ROAD AS MY LAST RESORT. WHAT A DISASTER.
truthfully though I dont think it was the redskins doing at all. they had haskins as their target all along and Im sure the giants knew it.
listen. you believe in the guy. you pull the trigger at 6. you have peyton mannings QB spiritual advisor guru telling your office that this kid is the next peyton with better mechanics and more talent and thats what happens. I mean if freddie roach tells me to put my money on some kid he's training and he swears this kid is better than pac man or any other boxer he's ever worked with and Im taking his advice. might be dumb but gotta trust the experts some times.
>people shitting all over daniel jones as a QB prospect >carson wentz and jared goff went 1 and 2 a few years ago >jones has better tape against better teams than wentz ever had jones at 6 makes sense if you like what you see. the only unbelievable thing about the pick is not taking darnold at 2 last year and drafting a RB at 2 and jones this year at 6. thats bullshit.
but jones at 6 isnt anymore of a stretch than taking wentz.
Easton Bennett
>dont understand the hate I don't like the Gary pick because he's a project, and when the owl window is closing, a pick that high should be someone who can contribute sooner than later.
However, I'm not sure why Walt hates the Savage pick when people had teams like the Colts drafting him in the mid 20s
James Wright
Lads, I went to see Avengers with my brothers tonight. Give me your legitimate opinions on the Seahawks pick. I think it's good. Quality defenders in the big 12 are rare. Now that he'll be able to play at a somewhat normal rate, it should help him, unless we're playing the Chiefs or Rams. Let me know, dudes.
Nathaniel Davis
teams are way too critical of reaching for players in the draft or FA. the opportunity costs are smaller than the need to have good players to compete. Gary might be a project, but if you predict a better long term career for a guy, you cant pass him up for nfl readiness and shorter ceiling. They have a good line for him to get into a rotation too. perfect fit for a versatile project
Ethan Morgan
Thanks friend. Still going to be, against my better judgement.
Jacob Reed
the Corner wasn't reacting to break up the pass, making it the right throw
Isaiah Watson
they picked eli manning 2.0
Juan Watson
Thsts a lot of cope my man
Ian Mitchell
your brother-sister is a faggot just like you for watching a comic book movie where the bad guys have never ever won and only an idiot would be invested in it
Brody Cook
once you pick a team, you are not allowed to switch, so good.
Angel Gray
/Bills Owl 2020/
Logan Martinez
Tyreek is the victim of a serious genetic condition, he isn't liable for his actions
anyone saying he should be cut and have his livelihood is a racist Nazi who probably voted for Drumpf. Tyreek needs therapy and medicine for his MAOA gene condition
not even a giants fan and Im actually a big fan of wentz
but Yea Forums is acting like the giants drafted a nigger or manziel or something. jones makes sense at 6. size, grooming, program, film, throws, talent, arm. he's one of those guys thats gonna get destroyed his rookie year, but for every game he throws away you see a flash of brilliance in their developing.
then again I still want to see mason rudolph get a starting gig already. I think he could be a starter also.
Isaac Wood
Walt's site is good for looking at future prospects you haven't heard of yet and rumor mills but to put it nicely, his analysis has always been wildly inconsistent
Josiah Kelly
>Drew Lock fell completely out of the first while Jones went fucking 6th overall
Hunter Roberts
>watching a s oyperhero flick instead of the draft >xeattle checks out also they reached, should have picked Sweat
>and when the owl window is closing how? what are you talking about? the mccarthy window closed, but it isnt like they dont have playmakers on offense and added 5 quality players to the defense so far >a pick that high should be someone who can contribute sooner than later. the draft is about finding the guy who will have the most impact to your team over his career. Many many rookies dont contribute their first year regardless where they are drafted. He has the athleticism to contribute later in the season and late in game rotations when the opposition is tired and weak, so it isnt like he'll be redshirted
Xavier Murphy
I wanted to see the Pats get Rudolph last year. Disappointing
Sebastian Nelson
good thing that espn said it so we know to ignore it.
This could get out of hand. Weren't the Chiefs the ones who had a player suicide in front of their practice facilities a few years ago?
Jeremiah Wood
I don't think it was worth trading for, you could have easily have gotten Collier in the 2nd or 3rd round, maybe even 4th
and then they traded out of the round when they needed more pass rushing production from the DE. they probably should have traded up for Sweat or something
Jaxon Flores
okay. but thats not what Im saying. what Im saying is Im taking drew brees at 6th overall instead of trying to take jj watt at 6 and hope that brees falls to 17. if anything Im taking brees first and hoping watt falls. not the other way around.
Jeremiah Scott
>Because the Giants are known for how great their offensive line is at pass protection
Hunter Nelson
When you put it that way, yeah. That's true. I'm a little surprised Sweat fell so far after the misdiagnosis.
Dylan Robinson
Stop using that namefag and stop baiting
William Long
Same Kinda fun that we’re the new browns as if this fan base wasnt tortured enough
>didn't do anything at Michigan >coming off a shoulder injury, think he'll be different in the NFL Puckers fans can't be this delusional, can they?
Jaxon Perry
jones ceiling is Alex Smith, his floor is out of the league in five years.
Mason Long
you have no idea how other teams valued the player I didnt like the pick either, but I know better than to predict where players fall
Lincoln Hall
they're pros you moron, there's like 3000 O lineman in Division 1 football
Adrian Morris
they signed preston "if I only played eight games my production would be the same as playing 16" smith to a multi-year contract.
Hunter Roberts
You really think he's going to last 5 years? Gettleman won't have the job that long and Eli has got like, a year left before he's out of the league.
Liam Cruz
>5 Generous
John Rodriguez
0 chance he's out of the league in 5 years, where do you retards come from?
Noah Robinson
I was giving the benefit of the doubt because of his rookie contract.
Connor Campbell
>misdiagnosis Two doctors out of all of the guys who looked into it said it was a misdiagnosis. One of which worked for the Texans. I wouldn't trust that if I were a GM
Zachary Kelly
I'm starting to think that it may have been manufactured by his agent
I mean first you get the diagnosis at the combine, but then teams say medical doctors said he can play through it, then like a week before the draft teams change their mind even though he's medically cleared, then comes the "misdiagnosis". It's a little too conicidential imo
Mason Gomez
in all honesty I'm not sure he makes the team out of training camp
Evan Harris
His rookie contract isn't going to save him if he looks like hot garbage on the field.
Jace Long
he ate up double and triple blocks all day and contributed to the run game. certainly could be worse JJ watt fell to 16 because his workout warrior status then lit the league on fire. the draft is a total crapshoot but athleticism sticks with players
Samuel Walker
If you have some of the worst pro O-Lineman going against some of the best pro D-Lineman, you get about the same results as what happened with Duke vs any of the good ACC teams
Parker Rogers
The 5th year is an option. With how bad the giants are and how old and bad manning is this kid could be nate petersond out of the league before he's finished with the 4th year
Luke Green
this is the third year in a row where something causes a player 'coincidentally' to drop to the Redskins. they will keep him out of spite.
Robert Butler
cardinals are going 0-16 next season and there is nothing you can do to stop it
Gavin James
>gettleman
Nicholas Diaz
not really, a good QB can set the O-Line right and the pros can switch on a fly. I mean the Patriots were gonna take him if he fell so I honestly don't know where the hate is coming from.
Elijah Peterson
what qb do they take next year
Eli Harris
and hows that been working out for them so far?
Luke Johnson
>the redskins baited the Giants into taking Jones at 6 and passing on Haskins >Haskins fell all the way to the Redskins without them having to give up shit >The giants now have to face an angry Haskins twice a year with their consensus bust QB how do you get played so badly by dan fucking snyder
Charles Martin
The Cardinals should start the second round off by drafting a quarterback.
Justin Williams
>everyone too busy laughing at the Giants and Raiders to notice that the Texans made one of the worst picks of the night
Ethan Morris
Tua, then Trevor afterwards.
Carter Williams
>jonathan allen. stud. >da'ron payne. stud. >derruis guice. has yet to play because of injury, but has great potential, also resulted in signing adrian peterson.
Levi Ward
if the nfl is rigged then why is the jew qb getting benched for a midget?
Samuel Brooks
Drafting him 32 overall would've been a reasonable spot for him. The problem is that instead of drafting a guaranteed stud at 6 for their defense or offensive line, they drafted a maybe decent game manager. They got rid of Odell and Vernon, and this is their first big investment since
William Thompson
Russel Wilson isn't white, but if he wasn't black he'd definitely be white.
Tyler Martinez
You know the Patriots are going to trade for him, right?
Chase Sanders
black qb's sell more to blacks than jewish qb's sell to jews.
Jonathan Gonzalez
Who are the 5 best players still available?
I really, really want the hawks to pick Taylor Rapp if he is still available at 37. I don't believe he'll last to 92.
Who do you want your team to take?
Andrew Myers
>Josh Rosen declares that nine mistakes were made ahead of him in the 2018 NFL Draft, justifying all the pre-Draft talk that he was a cocky asshole who was disliked by his teammates at UCLA
>Cardinals became the worst team in the league >Give up on Rosen after just one year because "muh Air Raid" and "muh next Sean McVay" >Giants don't want him >Foreskins don't want him >Has to watch as he gets replaced without being dealt away >Will probably end up going to the Dolphins for peanuts never to be heard from again
When was the last time a first round QB JUSTed this hard and not because of drugs/alcohol (Manziel) or injuries (RGIII)?
Jace Lopez
nah they're taking grier in the 4th round
Zachary Powell
that's only 15 picks who cares, WRs don't win Super Bowls lmao, name one HOF WR to win since Rice
Ian Rogers
>media shocked that nobody wants rosen did they see him play last year? i swear eisen was about to cry because rosen wasn't picked up
Brandon Lee
Brandon Weeden?
Thomas Walker
Trevor Lawrence.
Robert Gonzalez
The draft is a crapshoot but the league is littered with athletic freaks who do fuck all. Mostly what makes people great is vision and awareness and you can't test for it. You can't see what they see: your Tom Brady's, Edelmans, and Frank Gore's can excel because they have elite vision and can see what people are gonna do before they do it.
Matthew Sullivan
Edelman
Hunter Roberts
I can at least understand the reach by the Texans cause Dillard went off the board right before they picked and I'm a fan of Tytus Howard's game
but a reach is still a reach, I guess the bright side he can't be any worse than what they already have on their O-line
Asher Carter
Tebow was a first round pick.
Christian Bailey
>FUCK TRUMP
lmao Kraft has too much invested in Israel for that to happen
Jose Garcia
everyone elway has selected.
Jason Wood
I saw a miserable football team put out miserable results.
Brandon Foster
It's also a matter of leverage, the Cardinals blew it. Why overpay when they'll soon have to take whatever peanuts you send them and like it.
Kayden Ross
marvin harrison
Gabriel Ward
redpill me on brian burns
Dominic Price
he is not eligible next year.
Jacob Nguyen
>they have elite vision and can see what people are gonna do before they do it.
So the NFL should test for precognition?
Joseph Watson
Lawrence isn't available next year.
Carter Clark
Josh Rosen better get to work on winning those 7 superbowls he promised
Jaxson White
hot take: the Redskins are a good football team plagued by injury.
Hudson Brown
Rocket skates speed. Rocket Skates leverage. If he can't speed rush you, he will be shut out all game. If he can beat your tackle you better put your tight end on him to help or he will feast all day.
Thomas Morris
Haskins better keep those knees safe.
Mason Martin
Good answer. We might as well consider Gronk a receiver too, I mean honestly...
Brayden Scott
>Gettleman says he fell in love with Daniel Jones at the Senior Bowl. “After the three series I watched, I saw a professional quarterback. So that’s when I was in full-blown love.”
The fact that he's a >Florida State edge rusher really concerns me but the fact that he really wanted to play for the Panthers (Plus his brother playing there) gives me a lot of faith in him. Having a good attitude is half the battle and it sounds like he really liked Rivera when he met with him pre-Draft. Plus he got to talk with Luke Kuechly a bit so he's touched by the hand of God in that sense.
I just hope he's powerful enough to set the edge in the run game and doesn't disappear when he gets engaged. If he produces the way Addison has the Panthers' pass rush should be fine again.
Christian Hill
hot take: the Redskins are a good football team plagued by Dan Snyder and trash field.
Matthew Jones
this is the equivalent of a child watching a youtube highlight with shitty rap and then thinking they are good.
Joseph Rodriguez
wut?
Logan Howard
He literally isn't by any metric. His passer rating sucks, his YPA sucks, his accuracy sucks, his marginal efficiency sucks, his stats under pressure are garbage, and he's as bad against good defenses as Drew Lock, but without the "styling on bad defenses" part. He's terrible.
Robert Perez
Tebow won a playoff game
He also had his team kneeled on in the third quarter by the pats in the next game kek
Adam Nelson
Kinda. Its a distinct skill where some guys have photographic memory and instant recall combined and that's what makes them elite that's what "vision" boils down to and then on top of it they have elite hand/eye twitch response
lmao what aren't you getting about it's college football and he's on a shit team and his numbers are still good? I mean are you 15? How have you never watched pro and college football before? Do you think Haskins 50 TD passes are impressive?
Thomas Hall
but marvin harrison's position was actually receiver.
Connor Jones
>photographic memory That's a myth that has never been proven under reasonable scientific conditions
Thomas Jones
>THE NEW YORK GIANTS >THE NEW YORK KNICKS >THE NEW YORK INJURY YANKEES
hahahahahaha enjoy your soda tax you goobers
Anthony Powell
wow thanks mel kiper
Jacob King
Rosen is unironically a good quarterback who has no help. Watch a Cardinals game instead of just the highlights
James Wright
It's difficult to say because Leaf (A) sucked and (B) there was little innuendo and everyone knew he had an extremely shitty attitude.
With Rosen no one has really been able to get a feel for whether he's good or bad and a lot of the chatter about him is based on rumors about his time at UCLA. I know he has a ton of stans who compare him to Rodgers, but I think he's more of a Jeff George/Jay Cutler type.
Adam Morris
what makes you think someone being shit in college will make him good in the pros
Cameron Mitchell
You and this guy here
Christian Garcia
by big board rankings it's probably
>Dalton Risner >Irv Smith >AJ Brown >Cody Ford >Jawaan Taylor
any one of Dalton Risner, Irv Smith, AJ Brown would be good with me
Austin Gonzalez
Personally I think the Cowboys had the best 1st round of any team tonight
Luke Butler
he only played nine games and ate up a lot more blocks than the previous year. a project he is, but potential he does not lack
Noah Campbell
What? What are you missing? Gronk was basically a receiver and played a ton flexed out from the line. He will be in the HoF basically I'm saying you may as well consider him as a HoF caliber receiver cuz that's what he's going to canton for his roll as a receiver. He's not going for all the dank chip blocks and crack backs.
Brody Evans
he wasn't shit you moron, he didn't throw for 5000 yards at Duke doesn't mean he's shit. fucking A
Samuel Garcia
If you ever watched a Cards game you'd know he wilts under pressure and is as slow to read the field as Deshone Kizer.
Do you know what the term photographic memory means? Or do you legitimately think it means remembering things as images?
Parker Sanders
why are NFL fans such reactionary fucking faggots?
bunch of dudes acting like women during the Draft, makes me fucking cringe
Levi Sanders
He had very good numbers for a QB at an absolute shit tier team playing against much better talent. I mean I'm not joking, you realize that he's playing with around 0 other NFL players compared to say Murray who's playing with probably 20 and I'm being conservative. I mean I could see if he was putting up Josh Allen numbers but he's not.
Levi Kelly
So you agree that if he had a similarly talented team and coach he'd be successful?
Jayden Scott
>Gnats spent the #6 pick on a guy whose ceiling is Andy Dalton
The Cardinals spent the #1 pick on a guy who can't even touch the ceiling if he stands on a chair
Michael King
Are you seriously out here stanning for the ACC? Playing Pitt and Clemson once a year doesn't make your conference the SEC
Dominic Bennett
thank god I dont live on the east coast. all the white people over there sound like niggers doing exaggerated impressions of 1940's film noir gangsters.
is it all whites or just fucking wops over there that talk like that? its like listening to russ westbrook do a rocky impression on WFAN right now.
Aiden Evans
He'd be so "successful" that the team wouldn't sign him to an extension and would look for upgrades as soon as possible, yes.
Caleb Bailey
>on Yea Forums >asking why bunch of dudes acting like women
I'm not saying he wasn't but there are 0 blocking TEs in the HoF in at least the last 40 years. The only ones I can think of are Kellen Winslow, Shannon Sharpe, and Tony Gonzalez, Gronk and Gates are getting in as well obviously but all for their production as move TEs that could play in the slot and get a lot of receiving stats.
Andrew Gray
You're being generous if you think Daniel Jones can be as good as Andy Dalton.
Noah Morgan
Dennis Pitta, Jacob Tamme, and Heath Miller are elite TEs who deserve gold jackets.
Justin Kelly
buddy Duke sucks, every other team at least puts up NFL players year in year out
Being the best player on a shitty team and looking good doesn't make you a top 10 player in the draft
Thomas Powell
Almost everyone in the draft have potential, so it made people wonder why the puckers draft a project at #12
Gabriel Hall
it doesn't make you not either. Elway's Stanford team was shit, plenty of players on shit teams go in the top ten. Kentucky didn't go undefeated but everyone slobbed on Allen
Nathan Adams
just because all of the players around someone is really bad does not make that person good.
Isaiah Martinez
But apparently being the best player on a shitty team and looking mediocre at best makes you a top 10 pick.
Ethan Harris
duke was never a football team and has completely turned around their football program this decade they are putting a decent prospect into the draft at least once a year. usually a DB or LB every year.
the volunteers havent put anyone worth drafting into the league for almost a decade now. thats a fucking tragedy right there. the mighty have fallen in tennessee.
Michael Myers
I don't draft numbers, I draft players
Nolan Gray
>Duke receivers >talent
Gavin Campbell
if only you guys could get coaches like Cutcliffe
Aiden Sanders
Yes, but Elway had a good armand made good decisions. Jones has a decent arm, and throws dangerous balls when he gets in trouble AND when he has a steady pocket AND overthrows wide open receivers consistently
Oliver Taylor
2. who are they? >people comparing leaf getting drafted to daniel jones getting drafted you guys have no idea how good leaf was in school. he almost got drafted over peyton. leaf would have gone first overall in any draft in the modern NFL besides andrew lucks year. other than that leaf would be 1st overall any other year, every year. leaf had promise. he had incredible tape.
daniel jones doesnt have half what leaf had in his career. this isnt even close.
Isaac Gutierrez
Then why wouldn't you go for the guy that was the most impressive player?
Eli Edwards
>Alvin Kamara >Derek Barnett >Eric Berry
Adrian Phillips
>Implying Daniel Jones will be anywhere near Dalton's level Dalton is a solid, above-average franchise QB, the only reason Jones got picked earlier than day 3 is because MUH KUTKLIF
Cooper James
Curious, why are you going 2?
1. Ryan Finley 2. Daniel Jones 3. Clayton Thorson
Benjamin Gomez
they are gonna waste barkelys best years. travesty
Anthony Rivera
Watch Duke vs. Pitt from last year. Tell me if it's Jones or his receivers doing the work on the screens and pick plays that got him all of his yards that game
Owen Richardson
Jones is a Quarterback, Tom Brady went in round 6 but he can read a defense and lead a team. Now not saying he's Brady but draft tards would have told you he's shit compared to Akili Smith
Andrew Bell
Not if they pivot to a Saints-style ball control offense where the QB has to do the bare minimum because everything is blocked so that Saquon can take a screen 22 yards downfield on every play.
Joseph Jenkins
Wilson is Carlton black is why some consider him as white tho
Nathaniel Campbell
do you know how hard it is to read slants on 3 yard drops? this is why people talk about the Manning connection, not because it's a meme
Ryder Torres
>Gruden is brain dead >Everyone worth a damn on the Chiefs are psychopaths >Chargers are mediocre with an old ass qb Looks like January Joe is back on the menu for years to come.
>completion % basically the same >TD to INT for a developing QB is the best of the 3 then again 25 to 11 with a higher completion % is the same. Im actually surprised jones had comparable stats to finley. and thorson is a legit 4th rounder that a team like the chargers should jump on just to see whats under the hood in a few years. could be a borderline starter. put him behind a franchise QB and let him learn.
Asher Morales
Who are the Colts gonna take bros? I’m hoping for Arciega-Whiteside or Rock Ya-Sin. >maybe both?
Probably because Cutcliffe is literally the only positive people can list for Jones. "He got coached by the guy who coached the Mannings!" is literally his only standout positive trait.
Lincoln Johnson
what does impressive mean? Manziel was the most impressive QB in his draft
Bentley Robinson
That's the thing. He makes the wrong read on those slants half the time. Watch the game. I'm not kidding. Go find it and watch it. Tell me he doesn't make some awful reads, even when he has plenty of time to read the defense
Colton Foster
people said the same thing about Tedford and Aaron Rodgers
Christian Miller
YPA doesn't discourage you at all? Or the higher INT%?
Benjamin Wood
Can someone give me an actual breakdown on W'Keal Harry?
Julian Gonzalez
No, because that isn't a person
Nathan Anderson
Fuck, I mean N'Keal Harry. I am very tired right now.
Michael Smith
Has trouble separating from CB's, but good hands and tough. Weird situation where he'll be a good ST guy(KR/PR) and a good posession receiver, but won't be able to hit big plays.
Jason Nguyen
Ballard may pick someone completely off our radar but I'd really like Byron Murphy at 34. I'm also intrigued by Metcalf just because he's a fucking specimen but I don't think Ballard takes someone that boom or bust
Austin Morgan
HOFs don't mean shit if they don't get you to the playoffs and wins in them.
Nolan Wright
Tough possession guy. He's a patriots receiver to a T.
Christian Barnes
that's just an opinion on information you can't know. most QBs in college don't make any reads at all so you're comparing a slow F-1 Driver to a fast NASCAR driver
Nathaniel Perez
can he run block?
Wyatt Gomez
Yes, he's pretty good at it too for a WR.
Bentley Turner
It's the wops. Then your Irish plastic paddy's who think being Irish is all about drinking and fighting.
Thomas Fisher
He certainly makes a lot of bad decisions. Defenders draped on bad receivers and he forces it anyways. He has luck, but that's not a trait you want your qb to rely on
Benjamin Cox
fuck you fags for only showing up when the draft is on
Cooper Johnson
nope. YPA is a meme. niggers like julio and megatron can get mariota a 13.5 YPA off dink and dunk bullshit YPA is only 1/2 a QBs effort and maybe not even that.
gotta just look at throws. as for INT%? in NCAA I want to see it go lower and lower every year. he plays SEC and throws 4 times a game against 5 1st round CB prospects? vs he plays PAC 12 air raid prevent defenses giving up 40 yard chunks every other play and whoever gets the ball last wins?
easily a 1/4 of INT's in a NCAA qbs tape can be attributed to other players.
Dominic Flores
Jags won the first round
Luis Campbell
Yeah. I'd say he's a little below Cooper Kupp-tier as a blocker, which is pretty great at WR
Austin Myers
Dalton is dogshit without a good offense. See the 0 playoffs wins as proof.
Connor Reyes
How Arizona COULD have used their #10 pick last year instead of throwing it away. >draft a lineman >trade for a veteran lineman >trade for a mediocre but stable veteran qb and a reciever >trade for LITERALLY ANY kicker. Any team would trade their kicker for a top 10 pick. They could have the best kicker for essentially free >trade for hookers >sell it to some cancer kid charity for good pr
him and Marvin Lewis carried that joke of a franchise. they are gonna be Browns tier for a decade
Colton Johnson
>Marv brought on Hue Jackson Glad he's gone. He can choke on a dick like it was a postseason game
Jonathan Flores
The fact some of those shit Bungholes teams made the playoffs at all is a testament to Dalton's leadership
Blake White
>honestly impressed by passionate fan bases calling in at 2am to talk sports on local radio institutions, like GB, NYC, Boston, Dallas, Pitt, hell even cincy and cleveland and buffalo.
we have nothing like this on the west coast besides bandwagon mexicans talking about the warriors or dodgers with zero understanding of the game. feels bad bros.
Bentley Torres
which team will scoop up this treasure in round 6?
>Jake the Flake he'll be lucky to even get a UDFA call
Angel Green
I hope he and Minshew go to the same team to create the ultimate Washington connection
Thomas Bell
Could NE trade brady for the entire second round?
Hudson Butler
>you now remember Jake Locker
Brayden Thompson
I'm a bit torn on the Steelers pick. Yeah it's a position of great need and from what I've heard Bush is really good but I'm not sure he was worth giving our 2nd rounder and 3rd next year for
Justin Jones
Do I, though?
Ayden Russell
That 2015 team was fucking stacked
Charles Adams
It was a good pick. You had to give a lot, but it was worth it to move up and address the biggest need the team has
Joshua Jackson
I miss him so much. We didn't deserve him. This team would have gone undefeated with locker
Connor Cruz
E.J Manuel got 10 games year 1, then 4 games year 2 before getting benched for Kyle fucking Orton.
Jacob Robinson
yeah honestly considering all that Gruden has done a solid job.
David Harris
i remember his IR stints more he seems happier in retirement at least, good for him
Evan Robinson
he literally looks like a dwarf.
Henry Reed
>passing on darnold and allen in the best QB draft class in a decade >to draft a RB >draft dan jones this year at 6
it was a good pick and they stopped the bengals from getting him
Anthony Johnson
Because he had a great team that carried him in the past. They couldn't win any games because of dumbass mistakes from the defense and Dalton folding like a lawn chair every single time he got there.
I see his ass play twice a year to know this how shit he is.
Hunter Stewart
>Sam Darnold is better than Saquon Barkley >Literally just trust me on this one
idk I remember people claiming after his rookie and sophomore years that he was the reason the Bengals lost, despite having pretty damn good numbers for that age. I think it got to his head at some point. Tough being a ginger I guess.
Nathaniel Morales
To the playoffs with no wins which he will never get. They're basically the Browns who used to go to the playoffs every year.
Asher Jackson
wtf i like daniel jones now
Xavier Fisher
huskiebros, is Jacob Eason first round material?
Nathan Adams
It's also pretty tough to have AJ Green and Mohammand Sanu you can throw to while accomplishing fuck all.
Blake Gray
you realize their owner is broke as fuck, has like one scout? Bengals were actually a worse organization than the Browns even at 0-16
Dominic Thompson
guess which one we are gonna see in the playoffs? the king of p90x is gonna spend his entire career on a 8-8 team on the good years.
Charles Powell
AJ Brown is a pussy
Matthew Allen
>Out of 58 QBs selected in the 1st Round over the previous 20 seasons, Daniel Jones' career 6.2 AY/A is equal or better than just Jake Locker, Patrick Ramsey and Kyle Boller.
Benjamin Cook
how the fuck do you know who eason is and what washingtons mascot is? i still dont believe youre a fucking slav.
this nigga right here is as american as apple pie and 1911's or camel lights and mountain dew big gulps. no fucking way youre a mongolian commie from the steppes.
Grayson Cruz
So basically Tom Brady Mk2?
William Torres
how is it that both the raiders and giants reached in all of their 6 combined picks?
Aiden Cruz
Have you seen the Raven's receivers? They're fated to be the biggest bitches in the league.
Owen Hill
the raiders played it safe none of those were reaches and all solid starters at safe positions that can immediately step in and produce
that was the most chickenshit safe draft i mean good for them. but with all that draft capital I was expecting fireworks. or mayock to trade 2 1sts for 32 picks in rounds 2 to 4. but all those guys can step in day one and start and are high floor/low ceiling prospects.
Bentley Lewis
All they did was draft best available for position of need. I think they just really liked the guy from Clemson and I don’t think the ability is that far off from anyone not named Bosa/Williams. They got kicked in the balls by the fucking redskins tho lol. Got the best safety, hopefully Reggie Nelson’s days are finally over. Plz god.
Anthony Gray
>I think they just really liked the guy from Clemson and I don’t think the ability is that far off from anyone not named Bosa/Williams. 100% this peope bitching about them taking a safe DE with great production on a powerhouse team over a OLB from duke for a 4-3 defense are retarded
Thomas Jackson
some mocks had Ferrell in the top 15
I don't think it's the greatest reach of all time but the only real concern I have with him is that he's pretty inconsistent in effort which is not really doing much to allay the fears that a lot of his production is from playing on a stacked defensive line
Gavin Cooper
That's elite company there
Adrian Jackson
What fucking drug is Gettlememe on? Because I hope he overdoses on it
Brayden Russell
I'm willing to give them some credit on intangibles/muh culture since that's hardly ever a part of outsider evaluations, but it's only relevant if they actually win. We'll see.
Ethan Sullivan
I can’t believe redskins dabbed this hard on the NFL. How is this allowed
Owen Flores
you know they drafted a nigger to play QB in the 1st right? not only that the only jiggaboo that runs slower than eli manning. thats like drafting a chimp whose arms are too short to swing from branch to branch. whats the point?
Colton Campbell
The Giants have the worst general manager in the NFL.
Oliver Morgan
Da burrs absolutely killed it with their 1st round selection
Leo Fisher
>Reminder Skins are happy about getting a QB that would rank below Lamar Jackson last year, anyone who used a 1st on a QB this year not named Kyler Murray is a shit franchise.
James Lopez
>The only lockdown corner in the draft is still available in the 2nd round.
It's a nice consolation prize after NE took our Sun Devil.
Cameron Taylor
New thread needed
Landon Gomez
people probably voted thinking it was for miami's old logo
Ayden Powell
new bread
Ryder Gomez
>The pats were going to take him The Patriots were never going to take a QB at 32.
