Ronaldo is better than Messi because Eder scored in the Euro final and Higuain missed in the World cup final

>Ronaldo is better than Messi because Eder scored in the Euro final and Higuain missed in the World cup final

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Ronaldo is better because he won 3 straight champions leagues and has 20 more CL knockout goals than Messi

Ronaldo is better because he makes cucked countries like yours seethe

>only wins when Bale, kroos, modric join the gang

How many cls does Messi have since Xavi left

>champions leagues
ah yes the 2nd tier "champions"
look at city's path this year
>Lyon
>Hoffenheim
>Shahktar
>Schalke
>Tottenham

fucking joke competition

Ronaldo: won the moors their only football title
Messoi: nothing

What does Man City this year have to do with Real Madrids last 3 runs?

Winning two trebles > winning 3 CL's in a row

>Ronaldo is better because he's a coach babby who only won 3 CL's in a row because of Zidane and who has been literally useless in 3 out of 4 CL finals at Real
Ah yes, you sure proved me wrong there

have they ever gone 1 on 1?

Imaging being the "king of CL", "strong mind", "the best big game player in the world" and choking so bad in the CL final that a half human, half monkey hybrid like Bayol has to carry your ass over the finish line and it makes you so butthurt that you straight up leave the country and join a team where Messi can't cuck him in the league

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Ronaldo got his knee wrecked while in great form and messoy just choked all throughout the knockout stage, like he chokes whenever he doesn't have ovrebo to redcard those pesky defenders who can disposess him easily.

*treble*
>implying leliga is not a ref fuckfest to ensure barca wins
>implying winning a tinpot cup compares to noone being able to knock you out for 3 years from the best teams on the planet

*bale carrying*
>3 goals in CL all season
>greeds for hat-trick and fucks up
>more of a team now that TSU left
>drop out against ajax
>Tsu scored 15

pathetic, i bet you were masturbating in your moldy dank bedroom when TSU got refball redcarded in the supercup, the relief you must have felt after the anal-destruction he put you through all these years sure left its mark

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So why can't Ronaldo win the treble if it's so easy to win the tinpot cups? Why does he get consistently cucked in both the league and cup, yet still only has one more CL win than Messi?

>*bale carrying*
Read my post again my dear mentally ill friend, I said Bayol carried Ronnie over the finish line in 2018 because Ronnie chokes in the final and has been literally useless in 3 out of 4 finals at Real

fuck your mother you basement dwelling mouthbreathing swedish jew-muslim hybrid mutt, did you miss the part where messoy plays for scatalonia? how many times do we have to go over it for you to realize the extent of their refball?
>bale carrying any finals
you mean the finals where TSU is triple marked and scores twice, or 2014 when he scored and created 40 chances that bale squandered, or 2016 where he scored the decisive penalty, after a defensive 1-1 game, or you mean 2018 where bale greeded for the hat trick and fucked up instead of passing to a wide open Ronaldo and he still had 5 times as many CL goals in the season?
>useless
Sure it didn't help bale at all to take his longshot with 0 pressure while everyone is watching Ronaldo, and karius still had to fuck up for it to go in

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O MESSI

You are so fucking buttmad in every thread about Ronnie.

>implying leliga is not a ref fuckfest to ensure barca wins
Haha yes sure because Real and Perez are not notorious know for bribes and corruption.
When Ronnie doesn't win the liga with an insanely expensive squad full of world class players it suddenly became a farmersleague that was corrupted by UEFALONA.But muh barcelona la masia team,muh xavi/iniestia baby!When Real literally had like 7 out of the 10 most expensive tranfers when he was there.9 years he was there and won the league 2 times.
HAHAHAHAHA you are such hardcore coping faggot top kek.You,the kiwi and that one Urugay should honestly off them selfs.I bet atleast one of you is twain aswell on a new proxy.

>inb4 muh refugees and cuck

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This cope out of nowhere for literally no reason.

Just proves R7 is the goat

>real madrid notorious for corruption
only according to fc uefalona, too bad the evidence to the contrary is everywhere faggot, still butthurt about me exposing your spectrum breaking autism yesterday, einstein? i bet you would really like to point out im wrong somehow, retard

oh no twain

Football isn't just about scoring goals. Anybody who understands this knows that Messi is better than Ronaldo

That's a fucking shit argument when Messi had Iniesta and Xavi.

champions league ultimately is a competition that is based more on luck than actual skill. shit teams like Chelsea can win because all they needed to do is to defend and get a lucky goal or two.

forgot to mention that you can also get picked to play against shit teams making your road easier

And Messi still scores more goals per game than Ronnie, so the only argument people have for why Ronnie is better is "hurr durr Ronaldo is more athletic and jumps higher" and "hurr durr Eder scored and Higuain missed, and Zidane carried Real to 3 CL's in a row where Ronnie was useless in 3 out of 4 CL finals at Real"

I would argue that winning 3 straight CL just means you had a stacked team while winning the same amount over a longer period means you were able to do it with different line ups

a stacked team isnt enough to win the CL multiple times in a row, everyone is stacked as fuck in there. you need a beast who makes the difference year after year and separates you from the biggest teams like CR7, not one who separates you from farmers.
dumb fuck i already explained how Ronaldo was useful in every single final. even if he wasnt he would have still been the carry just by his goals being the topscorer of the competition 6-8 years in a row

True true

non white general?

>you need a beast who makes the difference year after year and separates you from the biggest teams like CR7
That's not how you spell Zidane

Ronaldo joins
09/10 - Round of 16
10/11 - Semifinal
11/12 - Semifinal
12/13 - Semifinal

Zidane joins as ""assistant""
13/14 - Winner

Zidane leaves to coach Madrid B
14/15 - Semifinal

Zidane joins as coach
15/16 - Winner
16/17 - Winner
17/18 - Winner

It is now when you joined us, Rajeesh

Messi sucks so fucking much
Why couldnt he score a winner here?
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Fucking choker

So you conveniently forgot that Messi had the chance to decide his own fate instead of leaving it to others, huh? The debate would've ended right then and there, never to be brought up again.

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Go fuck yourself man...every time the same discussion man. Fuck, improvisation talent alone wont win football matches motherfucker. Football is a TEAM SPORT. YOU influencing POSITIVELY on the game like Cristiano does because he is a BORN LEADER, is way more important for him than getting the ball downfield and go on dribbling everyone.

Cause if we put YOU wearing the 10 on JUVENTUS, he will look at YOUR face motherfucker and he'll convince YOU that YOU are Ronaldinho Gaucho and you will deliver a pass for him to score and he will give you 200 reais.

Because it is like THIS, understand man? The PSYCHOLOGICAL controls the BODY you motherfucker. Fuck, every single time is ''MESSI GETS THE BALL AND DRIBBLES EVERYONE, MESSI MIMIMI'' GO FUCK YOURSELF MAN. THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD IS CRISTIANO, LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR HE WILL BE AGAIN BECAUSE HE WILL WIN THE CHAMPIONS AGAIN CAUSE HES VICTORIOUS AND WINNER. VICTORIOUS. THE MAN. THE MACHINE. THE CAGED BEAST FILLED WITH RAGE YOU MOTHERFUCKER. HE DOESNT FAIL NEVER, FUCKER. HE WINS AND WINS AND WINS. THATS ALL HE DOES

Zidane is amazing and one of the biggest reasons Madrid wrecked everyone for 3 years, but the most important was CR7. Now he went to juve and he's still dropping hat-tricks against the best defence of the world. You could make the same timeline with Casemiro as well, he was a crucial player too with a minor role in 13-14, went to Porto for 14-15, and came back for the three in a row. Or you could bring up the humidity levels that were identical in 13-14 and 16-18 but not 14-15 and say the clouds carried Madrid.

>league can be won without beating every team
>reliant on other teams to lose games
Leagues are more luck based you fat fuck, in the CL the best team wins

>implying Ancoletti listened to muh 1998 header.

At least Ronaldo has 5 champions League titles and euros Messi doesn't and what doesn't should not talkWell

im not sure i understand but i think thats what im saying, Zidane had a small role in 13-14, when it was Ancelotti, Ronaldo, Ramos who deserve the most credit

I honestly don't think Ronaldo was that important in 2014, he mostly was second or third scorer of matches that were already decided
Ramos was much more important considering he is a defender and scored decisive goals throughout the whole KO stages
If there's one thing to remember from Ronaldo in that CL it's the group stage against Juventus

>Best team wins in the CL
>When you don't play every team in the tournament and where you can be knocked out due to refball, shit luck, injuries and a thousand other factors
>League relies on luck
>Where you have to play consistently well over 38 games and have very little room for fucking up against the lower team and dropping points
Retard

They had the easiest path ever on the first lf the 3 CL's.

>muh Uefalona
This is Madrid's last Liga.

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Yeah definitely not as clutch as in 16/17 when he was chilling in the group stage and blowing past every big team in the knockouts with 2-3 goals, but for me it's hard not to say he was the most important with 17 goals, when every game is a goalfest thanks to him it's hard for the opponent to even think about a comeback. He also made the key pass for the first goal against Bayern. Ramos really saved the day in the end though.

Even if this goal counted Madrid still would have wok the league. The table was 93-90

Good picture, as if one missed goal in a meaningless game against a midtable side will change the last 20 clasicos ruined by blatant refball. Remember suarez sweeping varanes legs and the sideline ref screaming foul but still no call? Or the suarez dive and pen in the supercup, then the redcard for Ronaldo for Umtiti fouling him? Or Mascherano stretching Ronaldo's shirt so you could see it from the other side of the stadium and obviously fouling Vazquez but neither were called? It goes on and on but you'll never find a missed penalty call for barca or a gifted penalty for madrid in a clasico.

that wasn't the only refball, retard

There is no team in the universe that gets even nearly as much refball as real mad

>atletico
>best defense in the world
this isn't 2016 you autist, atletico is fucking shit this year, they lost 4-0 to BvB.

>muh trebles, muh CLs, muh WCs, muh Euros, muh he had a good team, muh he didn't have a good team, muh only scoring against farmers, muh only scoring penalties and tapins
You are all fucking retarded holy god damn shit
>real madrid notorious for corruption
>only according to fc uefalona
Read up on the "Slaughter case" for a good example of that. This was about the basketball team but if they do stuff like that in basketball you can be fucking sure they do even worse shit for the football section
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cope

>There is no team in the universe that gets even nearly as much refball as real madrid, because i am a barcelona fan trust me
I just brought up a million examples, good counterargument. Write back once you find a clasico in this era that was favoring Madrid even a little bit, not that it would change anything cause most are hugely in favor of barca, not some stills from random games, cause those don't prove anything.
>hey lost 4-0 to BvB
>what is form
yeah they still had 5 clean sheets in their last 5 games at that point autist
now go back please

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>Messoy is better than Ronaldo because he can beat up on Spanish farmers to hide the fact he's shit in big games

imagine being so fucking insecure that you have to justify everything bad your team does as "b-but uefalona had refball!!!"
fucking grow up

>ronaldo is better than messi because he can score free goals and a penalty against a team who wasn't even trying

Stop responding to penaldofags. They're all underage.

Do you know Messoy only has 2 less penalties than CHADnaldo in the knockout stages despite scoring 20 (twenty) less goals?

Been looking, but can't find it anywhere on porn hub

fine they might do worse shit, i'll even believe you just show me one fucking clasico where suarez gets redcarded for getting fouled and ronaldo gets a penalty for simulating or something like that.

>thread full of 16 year old indonesians with proxies
baffling stuff

i dont blame everything on refball, but dont piss in my ear and tell me its raining, it exists. in the 2014-15 season for example i dont remember too much bullshit, you wont see me cry that juve knocked out madrid or that barca won that final.

>dont piss in my ear and tell me its raining, it exists
Then stop claiming Madrid are not guilty of exactly the same

>this much hungarian COPE
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You are retarded if you think that. It is like the gun was not decisive to an armed robbery because it was never fired.

>Ronaldo is better than Messi because he scores two headers and a penalty against a team with 0 shots on goal

ill stop when you give me some clasicos from the last 10-15 years where barca is actually a victim of it to the extent madrid have been, thats all

>a victim
The president of La Liga is a Madridisa and used to work as an Attorney for Madrid, with cases like trying to deport and half Lionel Messi's work permit and naturalization. Stop being a butthurt magyar, you look pathetic. Madrid gets favors left and right, and that's not even counting Florentino master of puppets in UEFA. Imagine a world where Modric is best player.

Team MESSl: Yea Forums
team donaldo: reddit

Messi is 4ch and R*ddit. At this point the only people pro-ronaldo are the egyptians still churning out youtube videos to get ad revenue.

rude

man i don't care about all that, who's president of what, i just want something palpable, like a wrong redcard for messi or neymar, or a pen for a dive from anyone in Madrid, or missed pen-calls for barca happening in the decisive clasicos because a lot of the opposite has happened.
>Messi is 4ch
thats cute r*ddit
lol did you really laugh that hard? i dont need to cope after the ownage Zidane and Ronaldo committed in the last 3 years, as for those CLs the most controversial matches like the 2016 final where the ref admitted he gave a free pen for the mistaken offside goal and the 2017 bayern game where a marginally offside and blatant offside were given but bayern got a free owngoal and a free penalty as well. whats arguable is that maybe casemiro also deserved a red but vidal deserved his earlier in that case. on the other hand psg got robbed in broad daylight and there were no calls against barca at all that game

>Messi gets carried by Suarez and Neymar in 2015
>goat, yet another treble

>Ronaldo gets injured, Eder scores instead
>what a fraud

>insanely expensive squad full of world class players
they already lost 14 official games by march without Ronaldo. trully world class lmoa