>With Ortiz before they didn't want to fight him only to become second mandatory behind Breazeale when Whyte was already number 1 because that's obviously bullshit Whyte wasn't #1 at the time Breazeale got the mandatory. He only became #1 a year after with Breazeale still waiting for this shot. It's scummy for hearn to try to interject and steal Breazeale's shot when it's not even his fault.
And trying to act as if being #1 means anything is extra hypocritical, since WBC orders mandatories through eliminators.
Does Trevor Bryan deserve a shot over Miller because he's ranked above Miller in the WBA?
James Rivera
Breazeale wasn't number 1 when he got that eliminator, it was Stiverne. Eddie isn't trying to steal Breazeale's shot, he's saying ok they're going to fight but we should be next as we were supposed to be fighting a final eliminator, same logic as Breazeale vs Molina. WBC need to order Whyte vs Ortiz to solve it.
Levi Lee
Wilder is a coward
Grayson King
Reminder the Charlo sisters are bums and I was right again.
Logan Russell
Hey friends I want some boxing posters in my new apartment anyone have some recommendations?
They did. Last year, did you miss that whole debacle? Whyte ended up not fighting either Ortiz or Pulev.
>Breazeale wasn't number 1 when he got that eliminator, it was Stiverne And? Stiverne got his mandatory shot and Brezeale became the next mandatory fighting in eliminator. Then Wilder got to exercise his voluntary defense and he chose Ortiz. Then was given special permission to face Fury.
The #1 spot stuff is for the casual fan who doesn't know that being #1 doesn't guarantee you an immediate shot and hasn't since the 60's.
>Eddie isn't trying to steal Breazeale's shot, he's saying ok they're going to fight but we should be next as we were supposed to be fighting a final eliminator
Eddie's exact words > We don’t mind fighting Ortiz if it’s to become the mandatory, not if it’s to become the second mandatory,” Hearn said.
“He just doesn’t seem to want to fight Dillian Whyte. What I’m saying is if [Wilder] fights Breazeale, that should be a voluntary. What they’re trying to do is, if they don’t get the Joshua fight, they will say we’re going to deal with our mandatory, Dominic Breazeale.” >boxingnewsonline.net/dillian-whyte-pushing-for-deontay-wilder-mandatory-shot/
>They did. Last year, did you miss that whole debacle? To become second mandatory so they chose to fight with the WBO against Parker. Now the context is different because if you get a final eliminator now it means you're next. They ordered Whyte vs Breazeale as a final eliminator, Breazeale can't fight it because he's fighting Wilder so they need to replace the opponent. If Whyte beats Ortiz he deserves Wilder next and there's no good reason for the WBC to not order it other than Wilder/Haymon not liking being potentially cornered
>To become second mandatory so they chose to fight with the WBO against Parker. Now the context is different because if you get a final eliminator now it means you're next. Not its fucking not. Breazeale is getting his official mandatory shot now. Second mandatory last year would've put Whyte in the same position if he fought and won a mandatory eliminator now.
I don't even see your arguement because you're actually agreeing with.
>They ordered Whyte vs Breazeale as a final eliminator Because they assumed Wilder was going to rematch Fury and make no mistake, it wasn't just an eliminator, it was for an interim title and they caved in precisely because Hearn was complaining for no reason.
>If Whyte beats Ortiz he deserves Wilder next and there's no good reason for the WBC to not order it other than Wilder/Haymon not liking being potentially cornered he would be in the same position if he just fought Ortiz last year but they consciously did not pursue it because its a dangerous fight and because Hearn thinks he could either 1. Complain enough to get Whyte a shot without having to face any contender or 2. Just set whyte up for the Joshua rematch.
Alexander Nelson
Get a grip, you are arguing against a great fight being made now because it goes against PBC's interest. All they have to do is order Whyte vs Ortiz as a final eliminator, they aready ordered the final eliminator. If it goes to court my opinion is the WBC will get btfo because sanctioning bodies always end up losing
>Get a grip, you are arguing against a great fight being made now because it goes against PBC's interest See this is the problem. You're assuming I'm taking sides in promoter wars bullshit when I'm just calling out obvious shit from Hearn.
> great fight being made now because it goes against PBC's interest What fight are you referring to? Whyte Ortiz? I wanted that fight last year man did you read anything I posted? That is a great fight and it should have happened but you see it didn't happen because Hearn is trying to circumvent any eliminators and make whyte mandatory directly.
I think you're mistaken and I don't mean that in a snide way because you're agreeing with me.
>If it goes to court my opinion is the WBC will get btfo because sanctioning bodies always end up losing It won't end up going to court because Hearn is bluffing. They even capitulated and ordered an INTERIM title fight between Breazeale and Whyte. The real victim here is Breazeale because after he became mandatory they tried fucking him over
Sebastian Edwards
what is the point of baiting if you have to put that much effort into it
I didn't realize actual discussion was baiting. I'm not trying to bait anyone. Have I made a single inflammatory comment towards someone in this thread?
Logan Morales
DUUUUUUUUUUCCKKKKKZSQUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAADD
Landon Morales
fuck i dont know why but this made me laugh
Jaxon Martin
Rigo back when?
Noah Morales
>Wilder wants to fight Klitschko Can we forget about this guy finally? He's gonna duck and hide that belt longer than Billy Joe ever did
I don't get how boxers do that "zzz" sound (youtube.com/watch?v=ftuGjEXdLl8) when they punch, I don't feel comfortable when I do that
Leo Peterson
I'll get this one in 40x60
boxing posters are always shit. the ufc kills boxing when it comes to posters, I currently have the ufc 194 poster framed on my wall in 50x70 and I'm not even a huge Conor fan, it just looks good
>Seething Eurocuck mad that Anthony "Juicin" Joshua isn't gonna get a shot at the champ Wilder knocked out the lineal champion that "Juicin" J has been avoiding. Fighting Juicin J would be redundant.
I realize by making this post that I am revealing that I watched women's boxing for any length of time but I wanted to see if any other anons saw what I saw In the Katie Taylor vs rose volante fight Katie came forward with her head and broke her opponents nose and the blood started flowing. The ref called a stop to the fight, correctly rules the damage was from an inadvertent headbutt, and then ruled it a TKO for Taylor? What the fuck? When a fighter can't continue because of an accidental foul after 4 rounds it goes to the judges cards and it's a TD. Obviously Taylor won every second of every round but that's a pretty big fuckup in procedure. What happens when he forgets procedure in an important fight, because it's not like Benjy esteves only refs small club shows. Hell he reffed Canelo-ggg 2!
Jordan Nguyen
Ref was probably paid off, Eddie loves padding those records
Golden boy buys judges, Matchroom buys refs. Almost every matchroom card nowadays has at least one suspect stoppage. You can actually see it during the andrade fight the ref look into the ring side audience 30 sec before he stops it in last minute of the 12th.
Can someone make a webm or slowed down webm of the last 15 seconds or so of Danny Garcia vs Matthysse. There was a nice exchange at the end. Just watched a replay of it on Showtime
Aiden Jenkins
What movie is this?
Christian Jackson
Ref just completely missed the headbutt imo and thought the cut on Volantes nose was from a punch. Pretty fucking stupid to think a woman could cause that kind of damage but thats what he must've thought.
Christian Hill
Is this a police lineup?
Asher Hill
>Patient Knocks out Paramedic Lmao why would they have this framed? Was it someone they knew
Charles Morales
Lel, I got curious what 2chan /box/ is like, but they don't have a sports board so I had to settle with 5chan /box/. The first thread I found was about Gervonta Davis, and the first reply to the thread is "Broner II rather than Mayweather II" (In Japanese of course, i'm using google translate).
It's interesting to see what other countries that usually aren't represented here think about world boxing.
Hunter Gomez
>HORRRY SHIEET >Buboy, you did not tell me he fights like dis
>drive to the nearest city to spar >finally someone my height and weight >faggot ends up going hard as fuck like his life depended on winning Honestly not sure if competing is worth it lads. Want to try at least once, just to see what it's like, but on other hand health is more important now that I have a decent job. Thoughts from anyone here who's competing or used to compete?
Sebastian Campbell
You haven't seen nothing yet and no, it's not worth it.
Alexander Allen
I think I got pummeled at least a dozen times by this Puerto Rican kid before finally holding my own. Ideally, a novice should only be placed in with guys skilled enough to control the tempo without needing to resort to beating down the guy. I was just a teenager so they let us get beat up to see who would keep persevering.
Gyms are full of son of bitches If you want to compete get used to it because hard sparring sometimes is inevitable and you learn more from that than light sparring or countless hours on the bag, but it's easy to overdo it. I think having a couple of amateur matches is worth it just for the feeling but no more than that unless you can turn it into a living or can reach high amateur levels.
Noah Young
thanks for that. also checked
Jaxson Wright
Ippo is written by a former fighter and /box/ approved scripture
Owen Nguyen
How can those two identities exist within someone simultaneously?
Fuck the CSAC. They won't approve me to fight at LW anymore because I put 20lbs back on after weighing in.
Thomas Robinson
I'd slap a high guard up and plod all over you fat boy
Alexander Barnes
Good luck trying to walk me down when you'll be eating counters to your glass body BUM, reckon it'll end in 5
Owen Thomas
who would win?
rigondeaux
or
a mexican teenager?
James Allen
>taking that long to beat a redcoat
Lincoln Flores
>learned how to "box" at a muay thai gym >muslim >can't into German grammar >has a poster of Canelo (A GINGER) in his room >compares himself to Julio Chavez I can't even..
Well you better get a hold of your manager and tell him to grease some palms I think scale you did your second day on was wrong you need a new one
Brandon Ward
What do you do? Detach an arm and then sow it back on before the fight? No wonder they banned your dense arse
Daniel Nelson
It was a different scale than the weigh in one. A cheap one, but I doubt it was that inaccurate. ~20lbs is par for the course for me.
James Hall
Pound liquids and eat salty food. This shit ain't rocket science. I checked out just fine in my pre weight in physical.
Parker Perry
I know what you do, I'm saying that cutting over 15% of your body weight is retarded and probably pretty dangerous for your liver and brain
James Walker
Depends how you do it. I drop down through diet and exercise slowly leading up to the fight til I'm ~10 lbs over. I do a minor water cut for the last 10 the final 5 days leading up to the weigh in. A 10lb water cut isn't that bad.
Nah. I can still fight at SLW, but I'm gonna try to get approved to fight at LW again.
Alexander Rivera
Post your boxrec
Owen Morris
Suck a dick. That would kinda defeat the purpose of being anonymous.
Daniel Hernandez
>t. not even undefeated
Brandon Jackson
Question; how do you cut 20lbs before a weigh-in? Like if i'm a 135lb 5'10" lanklet, would I be able to cut all the way down to Flyweight?
Andrew Clark
He's a fatass.
Xavier Williams
There is no way you could cut that much safely with that body type. You probably walk around close to your fight weight I'm a lanklet. I got a fast metabolism that allows me to drop weight fairly easy. I walk around 160, but it takes a fuckload of effort to maintain.
Seriously mikey Garcia is so fucking stupid. He showed up just to get payed. He had two great fights against linares and Loma. I never believe the "mikey Garcia is a BUM" meme but now it's true. He was either scared to face them or he's just an idiot. Also his body looked fucking disgusting.
read a book dummy, and get it through your head, israelites conquered all the lands, and when we did we killed the men and had sex with their womens
Henry Cook
>following women's boxing
Easton Parker
It's $20 in Canada, implies they're going to go in hard for other content It's not a boxing channel, it will fail if they don't add more sports
Logan Ward
Wrong. Andre Ward is an Israelite, clown. School yourself
Charles Foster
>he fell for the mikey garcia meme mikey garcia is a B U M U M
Wyatt Baker
Andre Ward is Irish.
Noah Scott
They based it on google search spikes, he spiked for Fury and only sold 325k when Canelo sold 1.1 million but they have Wilder above him
Nathaniel Cruz
Will they include the bit where he speaks at a KKK rally?
Henry Long
it’s black “Hebrew Israelite” nonsense.
Ayden Watson
Esau cope.
Andrew Hernandez
>Breazeale Sent Gifts To Boxer Who Knocked Out Wilder's Brother B A S E D
Nathaniel Butler
Based ESPN More proof that Joshua DOES NOT deserve a shot at Deontay Wilder. He's far bigger than the British bum, who is probably gonna get shit on by Big Baby in June anyways.
Joshua would be lucky to get a 50/50 split with Wilder. Fury is ranked 5 places below Wilder and he only got a 60/40 split in Wilder's favor.
I'm kind of pissed about the monthly increase, but I'm a subscriber who will get grandfathered in for the year and the yearly payment actually makes it cheaper by month so I'm okay with it. Thanks to all the people who subbed and unsubbed just to watch one fight for fucking it all up for everyone else. USA gets it
Wyatt Wilson
Who cares? Who is actually paying monthly for these subscription services? It doesn't make sense to. If you constantly have a subscription to all these services nowadays you'd just end up paying more money than you would if it were just cable.
I'd rather just treat it like PPV. I'm paying $10 for the card that I want to see on its own, i'm not trying to stick around for events I don't carea bout.
I've got like 8 subscriptions and it's still literally half of what I payed for cable They caught on to the treating it as a ppv thing so now you're gonna be paying 20 bucks a card
Jackson Anderson
I'm grandfathered too but the 100$ per year sounds like a great deal. I think the majority of posters here are bums that don't have jobs/expendable income so thats why people are complaining.
Nathaniel Peterson
Fine by me, i'll just be more selective per card, no biggie.
Jace Perry
>I'd rather just treat it like PPV $100 for 1 year of DAZN is still a lot better than $75 for 1 PPV
Carson Martin
No doubt linked back to them signing Rungvisai, DAZN has no reason not to clean up on all the asian cards nobody else wants to broadcast. Was weird they didn't pick up Tanaka vs Taguchi honestly.
Leo Diaz
I'm glad DAZN is showing some Asian boxing too
Alexander Bailey
Yeah once my tax refund comes in I'll probably go straight for the yearly option. Yeah if the card is worth it people are still gonna do what they always did Honestly this seems like a win for everybody Jesus I sound like a DAZN shill
Aiden Morris
>I've got like 8 subscriptions and it's still literally half of what I payed for cable Yup. And now those with Spotify premium get Hulu for free so it's pretty much 5 dollars for both services. Tbh I'll be paying only on months where there's big cards like in May and possibly June, but it's really not as bad as paying for espn+ where most of their cards are shit
Nolan Cooper
>still only costs 13 Swiss francs a month to get all the murrican DAZN content as well as most of the PBC cards in switzerland
Shall be subscribing when I move lads, and I barely ever pay for boxing currently.
Sebastian Bailey
Based
Jordan Torres
The Ukranian who owns DAZN is also a big shareholder in Spotify. If they do 5 PPV quality events a year and then a half dozen fights like Rungvisai vs Estrada, Inoue vs Rodriguez then the $100 annual fee is well worth it. Spence vs Garcia selling over 350k shows that the cost doesn't really matter to Americans, Americans want big fights with Americans fighting Americans
Logan Peterson
>Americans want big fights with Americans fighting Americans Agreed. Also believe that is why Canelo fighting Jacobs will be DAZN's first big hit. Danny has more personality tho Spence and Mikey combined, and canelo has the Mexican audience. I have a couple of of Mexican coworkers asking about DAZN already
THE PANEL: Dan Rafael, Timothy Bradley Jr., Teddy Atlas, Steve Kim, Bernardo Pilatti, Eric Raskin, Nick Parkinson, Nigel Collins, Charles Moynihan and Salvador Rodriguez
Elijah Davis
>err is seriously being bumped up the p4p lists for beating mikey honestly feels like I'm in bizarro world sometimes the amount of shit that journalists chat
Jayden Wright
Boxing is full of shit, soon as he beats the guy from a different division he's supposed to beat there was the platitudes about how he didn't just win because of his size and longer reach giving him the distance, it's his boxing being so much better than we give him credit for
Dominic Garcia
I mean that specific card he is showing, not DAZN in general
Daniel Diaz
Just cause you go to another country for easy sex doesnt mean you lose that once mindset. Same way plant is an israelite, he looks white but has the soul of a so called negro
I won't subscribe to DAZN until they fix their broadcasts. I read comments all the time saying their streams are pretty bad and buffer a lot. Simply no reason to subscribe when you can get the superior sky broadcast for free.
The only reason I pay for boxing is for big fights(ppvs and the like) where I dont want to mess around with shitty quality or having to cycle through streams.
His style makes for a very interesting clash on paper though.
Jack Gonzalez
There was an interview with him and tank after Garcia-Porter I think where he was acting all weird putting his head on tanks shoulder and shit. Had some fag vibes to it desu
Jaxson Lewis
Prime Pac would finish Lomabumko
Julian James
*gets slept by a plodding mexibum*
Eli Fisher
Do you know the guy who slid into AB's dms? He's a notorious him I who has done this stuff with other athletes before and he slipped up and admitted himself that he started it.
Lmao. They know that all the Mexicans will be paying for the Canelo fight
Colton Lee
Bless you Oleksandr.
Oto bad it's not a week earlier, I'm going to be in Chicago the week before
Evan Baker
>tf >tp
Mason Hall
you aren't refuting anything I said, I wasn't /int/ posting what are you on about
Connor Davis
exactly, read a book dummy, and get it through your head, all you so called negroes latinos and native americans are actually israelites
Wyatt Roberts
A 38 year old coming off 2 KO losses who's an inch smaller than Usyk. If Usyk doesn't get through this fight easily then he has no business at heavyweight.
Lucas Morales
fuck yes
Anthony Turner
Manny's first fight at 126 was Barrera, his first fight at 130 was Morales, first at 147 was DLH and first at 154 was Margarito. That's "unreal" Takam is just fine.
Brayden Butler
>comparing boxers to the living legend that is manny pacquiao as a benchmark yeah, OK bro
Why are Brits universally retarded and don't know shit about Boxing? Even on /box/ you have Britcasuals saying dumb shit like this.
Takam was getting outboxed in the early going against Mike Perez of all fucking people, and Perez is smaller and less skilled than Usyk. Not to mention the fact that this fight is 5 years later and Takam is now 38. This will be an easy and clear shut out for Usyk if he doesn't knock out Takam. It's far from a "unreal" first fight at Heavyweight, you're too ingrained in the Matchroom bubble and think every fighter promoted by Hearns is some top tier fighter. Takam is a gatekeeper at best, the logical first fight for someone moving up from Cruiserweight.
Bro this is how every major subscription service works though. Give the a little free time or at a discount ifbtheyre a student and reel them in when theyre hooked. Now they're basically doing $20 ppvs
Austin Roberts
it is an "unreal" fight considering it is his first opponent at HW, and takam is a solid operator, jarrell miller hasn't fought anyone close to takam yet still
Colton Carter
Yeah Raman is also coming off of a brutal knockout from chisora. Hes the same as chisora and povetkin. Theyre both holdouts from the previous gen but nothing too great
Eli Richardson
you know what some of you lot are so ungrateful there are heavyweights considered top 10 that don't have a name as good as takam on their resume, he hits hard, comes forward, it's a good litmus test at heavyweight and yes because of this it's an unreal first fight at heavyweight emphasis on first
Isaiah Clark
All nothing compared to Michael Spinks first Heavyweight opponent! And he came from Light Heavy...
Takam was also unable to finish Parker, ok no one else did either, and thus got robbed.
Alexander Collins
Even Povetkin wouldn't have been a mindblowing first fight at HW for Usyk, not at this stage in Povetkin's career. Guess who Huck's first fight at Heavyweight was? Povetkin, and that was PRIME Povetkin, before he popped for PEDs twice, and even then Huck put on a very good performance and arguably beat Povetkin in a very competitive bout.
In the weeks before the fight though, watch a bunch of Matchroom shills come out the woodwork to pretend how amazing of a step-up this is for Usyk. I like Usyk, but this fight is nothing special. I can't blame him for this fight since it's either fight Takam or jump right in there with Ortiz, as most other fighters are tied up at HW right now.
>t. Matchroom drone
Jackson Gutierrez
Yeah I mean you have a pretty good point and Takam is a fighter with a good style for Usyk
Asher Cox
A student discount would be a smart route for them to go
Isaac Moore
That's why Amazon prime has been able to capture so many subscribers and spotify. It seems like a weird move designed more to make money short term money than it does to increase subscription.
>its the WBSS but with a shit Porter, shot Thurman, and old Pac 10/10
David Parker
DAZN's success will depend entirely on whether they can get NFL or NBA rights in the US and football rights in Europe, boxing is just a way of getting their foot in the door
Tyler Gomez
Let's not crown their asses before they've even actually made the fights yet
Liam Johnson
Cope harder. I don't get why PBC causes so much butthurt amongst promoter groupies
Parker Reyes
The cope is calling that bumfest a "Super Series"
Matthew Fisher
True but Pacquiao Thurman is probably what's going to happen. Interesting fight given pacquiao's age and thurman's ring rust, both action fighters, both draws.
Wyatt Price
>Considered one of the most stacked divisions in the sport >4/5 top 5 are set to fight eachother this year >Eurocucks seething because their top guy in the division is lined up to become a highlight reel on ESPN. Keep crying.
How can fans call out Wilder for ducking when he refused to go across the street and sticking with his network getting paid less and then not call out Bum Crawford when does the exact same thing and his best win was when he was a weight bully?
Jayden Wright
where did the Prograis poster disappear?
Landon Gutierrez
>Considered one of the most stacked divisions in the sport Incorrectly
Owen Lopez
He died of old age with how fucking long its taken for the WBSS to move on.
No it still is. It's top heavy but still pretty stacked in talent compared to some of the other division. Top 5 no question. In a sport with 18 divisions, that makes it one of the best
Hudson Thompson
I can tell you're just mad that there's no Europeans in the division.
It's not even top heavy, it's in tatters from where it was three or four years ago
David Gray
unironically don't rate any current welterweights bar crawford and spence
Caleb Morales
>in tatters Lmao did you even watch boxing back then. # years ago, Mayweather retired from real boxing, and Thurman, DSG and Porter were all rising to the top. It's objectively better now that Spence and Crawford are at the top as well.
Or are you just upset Brook is trash now? Britcasual everybody.
Spence and Crawford not fighting eachother is why it's in tatters, Spence fighting a literal Lightweight and a 40 year old says it all, also stop redditspacing you tard
Camden Evans
>yfw DAZN make the dream matchup of Knockout CP Freshmart vs Wanheng "TBE" Menayothin come true
All this casual shitfest ever talks about is heavyweight all day don't delude yourself.
Landon Scott
>muh redditspacing >i-it's in tatters, i didn't just say something dumb and get called on it The britcasual everybody. Watch how next he throws baseless insults
Joseph Wilson
>WBSS holds welterweight tournament >Humberto Soto defeats Luis Collazo to win the Ali Trophy
Adrian James
"Bum Crawford" is one of the best two fighters in the division, the division sucks, clearly
Asher Baker
Imagine thinking welterweight is a shit division. Almost as moronic as people who don't realise how stacked cruiser was with well matched guys before Usyk cleaned it up.
Yet he refused to cross the street and prove it even though eh would be paid more. If you called wilder a ducker you must also agree Crawford is a ducker
Bentley Myers
how have you not heard about the lanklet king yet
Noah Mitchell
britcasuals don't watch non british boxing especially undercard fighters
>you ended up preemptively torpedoing your own argument Oh really? Funny how it took you 3 more posts to resort to baseless name calling. you must have great experience in britcasualry
Elijah Scott
based and swiftpilled
Zachary Clark
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, ALL FOUR BELTS IN THE MINIMUMWEIGHT DIVISION WILL BELONG PROUDLY AROUND THE WAIST OF HALF OF ONE MAN
youtube.com/watch?v=6e4KPUljtzE >Joshua posts a stupid boring video of his camp flat and gets a million views in a couple days I ain't no matchroom shill but how is Wilder seen as more popular lol
Ayden Watson
For me it's future undisputed SMW champ Caleb "Sweethands" Plant
Cooper Thomas
why is he wearing a du-rag is he dealing drugs again
Elijah Adams
Does this nigga really have the IBO tatooed on his chest? When can we expect Eubank Jr to do this?
Zachary Ross
Getting those waves
Charles James
he's maxed out british awareness but has zero US awareness which counts for more
He is massive in Africa too which might be where a lot of the viewers are coming from. He'll break into America
Jeremiah Gomez
I feel like brits are more supportive of their national teams and athletes and therefore watch things related to those people where as Americans watch the fight and stop there. pure speculation. to be fair I haven't met too many people who follow boxing anyways
Ryder Brown
>Wow....reminds me of the house I grew up in...and I hated it. AJ has just reminded me to be thankful and grateful in 3 mins #BeHumble
God that comment section is fucking cancerous jesus christ
Jordan Edwards
I'd bet good money that a lot of people that bought Spence-Garcia had no idea they normally fight in different weight classes
Levi White
Boxing is still relatively mainstream here while MMA is a far behind. Brits are supportive but they'll turn on athletes just as quick example being Froch who pretty much saved boxing here gets absolutely shat on
Adrian King
And justifiably so, Froch is a cunt
William Flores
cunts make great boxers
Andrew Rogers
Fair enough
Easton Barnes
james toney would have beat joe frazier
prove me wrong
Zachary Murphy
Boxing and MMA are both not mainstream sports in the US. I think there's some conception among brits that MMA is more mainstream but they're niche sports
Xavier Wood
Boxing isn't here either. It is the only thing on late usually sports wise though
Kayden Thompson
The main thing which gives Brits (even most of the ones who post in this thread) such a weirdly skewed view is that watching American boxing is too much of a pain in the arse to actually do for anyone but the most dedicated. You have to either lose sleep for it or watch things back the next day not live. Most of the Americans who post in here are also casuals about anything outside of the US or UK but they at least watch the big UK stuff because it's on at a reasonable time.
There are under 5 posters here who wouldn't get completely embarrassed if they actually put a username to their posts on one of the decent forums.
Joshua Ross
Yeah I don't understand it, "it" being the whole team sports craze (especially football) in America. I think combat sports, including amateur wrestling, are the ultimate testament to human physicality, like you can't rely on others and it is literally beating another person and vying for dominance. Like, sure those sports take skill but there's nothing more domineering and demanding than fighting sports. Should be #1 all around the world.
Daniel Peterson
>are the ultimate testament to human physicality, like you can't rely on others and it is literally beating another person and vying for dominance Most people watch sports as a way to feel a part of something bigger than themselves so what you described is a turn-off for a lot of people
Jack Sullivan
>muh forum muh reputation >you have to watch shitty domestic fights or you're a casual you can watch every fight that ever happened on youtube, there's no need to follow every event, why would I watch some shitty goldenboy cards where the main fight are two mexicans with 5+ losses?
Nicholas Russell
Boxing is an American sport. It's the home of boxing. The sooner you brits accept that, the better.
Liam Gray
>one of the decent forums Beg pardon
Joseph Bell
thanks brit, didn't think about it like that.
Liam Hall
There were 20 or so posts in this thread for Tanaka vs Taguchi which was about the most guaranteed entertainment in a world title fight we've had so far this year. Doesn't take a massive hipster to know that would be a great fight, just someone who watches the sport.
This is the right approach, these threads are for nonsenseposting. There is zero good discussion to be had here because everyone is a casual.
Samuel Brooks
What are some casual filtering fights past and coming up?
Jose Kelly
Fury v Klitschko Wach v Klitschko Rigondeaux v Agbeko
Chase Kelly
Because that was at 3 in morning for americans and 8 am for you brits. Of course it only got hardcore viewers and then only teh hardcore viewers who didn't have anything else going on. >This is the right approach, these threads are for nonsenseposting It's the truth tho. America is boxing's home. Why are all the best british fighters fighting here now? Why do all the russian, ukrainians, mexicans and euros all fight here? Cause its the home of boxing. It's not your sport. It's ours
The numbers don't lie chump, Wilder is the most popular boxer in the world.
William Diaz
>There are under 5 posters here who wouldn't get completely embarrassed if they actually put a username to their posts on one of the decent forums. Reddit alone disproves this theory of yours.
Also, I don't ever see Brits up with us watching Japanese Boxing, and that's on at a far more reasonable time for you than it is for us. Face it, British fans are casuals. Which makes sense, your Boxers are also trash.
If Miller said something even slightly disparaging to Hearn the Brits would've shit theirselves from anger, and from fear. Just 3 more months and Miller will tear through Joshua like a bacon egg and cheese sandwich.
Adrian Long
We all know Fury and saunder are israelites clown. Read the scripture
Boxing should eliminate weight cutting by having fighters weigh-in right before the fight (1 lb allowance, forfeit part of your purse and automatic point deduction if 1-5 lbs over, DQ loss and 100% purse forfeiture if > 5 lbs).
Aren't these the MMA weight classes? Same day weigh ins are dangerous and MMA is full of the biggest fucking weight bullies in weight cut sports.
Anthony Butler
t. Mike Tyson is greatest of all time
Ethan Morris
>Aren't these the MMA weight classes? No
>Same day weigh ins are dangerous
Not at all. Guys will stop doing the crazy dehydration cuts to make weight, because they won't be able to fight doing that. Currently, when most fighters weigh-in the day before, they can hardly walk, let alone fight. So if you force them to weigh-in right before getting in the ring, they'll have to fight at their natural weight class and not cut 10% of their bodyweight the day before by dehydrating themselves. It will actually be safer.
Jonathan Miller
>Eliminate all weight divisions below 140lbs >Make Boxing weight classes match UFC weight classes. Yup, it's a /heem/tard, who is surprised. Fuck off back to your containment general.
Those are boxing weight classes adjusted for the lack of cutting you brainlet.
Aaron Nelson
Yarde isn't actually 6'0" tall is he? I always thought he looked more like 5'9", especially given how muscle-y he is for a LHW.
Elijah Evans
>Those small arms This is the average weeb's ideal body
Daniel Cooper
All I know is kovalev us going to beat the shit outta him
Jason Cox
No they won't stop because fighters will do anything to get an edge or get paid. You realize 90% of boxers are dirt poor getting beat up for money. This the entire reason same day weigh ins aren't a thing.
Sebastian Sullivan
>No they won't stop because fighters will do anything to get an edge
They wouldn't have an edge. Have you seen what fighters look like when they weigh in after cutting? They would hardly be able to walk out to the ring, let alone fight.
Cutting at the last minute would put a fighter at a huge disadvantage. The only reason they do it today is because they have 24 hours to rehydrate. And even then it still affects their performance and makes them more prone to getting KO'd.
>or get paid. Just fight at your natural weight class and make weight. You still get paid. If some low IQ bum is too lazy to make weight properly and tries to cut the day of the fight, the physician can rule him unfit to fight. And if that doesn't happen, let him fight and get KO'd. If a guy can't take any responsibility to prepare for a fight, WGAF.
>This the entire reason same day weigh ins aren't a thing. no, they're not a thing simply because doing it the day before is traditional and these things never change do the lack of any one sanctioning body controlling the sport.
John Wright
Literally top 10 anime fights moment, I wonder what was thinking the lad that had the hand extended
Lucas Ross
Based post, I personally enjoyed both Juan Manuel Marquez and Pacquiaos documentaries when they were on Netflix although the final parts of the Pacquiao one seemed more like an excuse of why he lost against Marquez
Elijah White
Fury is fighting Schwarz in June. Imagine claiming to be elite whilst boxing ethnic Germans in the current year.
Camden Taylor
Holy shit ahahahaha. This is even worse than Rivas. I can only think he's doing it because Scwharz is white and 6'6 so casuals will get fooled into thinking he's good.
>tyson fury ducks wilder to fight undefeated Tom Schwartz
Julian Allen
People shit on him when HBO was around, and now that all the replacements are complete shit, they miss him
Angel Ramirez
Yeah undefeated as well, rubbish fight
Blake Smith
Personally I always thought he was great. Max was the one letting the broadcast down
William Green
He’s number 2 with the WBO and Fury’s 4, if Whyte goes the WBC route then it could potentially make Fury mandatory for the end of the year but then they have a get out in Usyk being super champion so it might be for nothing
Blake Roberts
People only shit on them because they're latecomers who never experienced HBO boxing at its prime and contrarians. Some posters here literally said that Sky's team was better.
Benjamin Morris
WBO stands for Whatever Bob Orders. He has them in his pocket. They probably could have put in Rivas and have that for the mandatory but for optics chose schwarz.
Lmao what a twist. Of all their next opponents, Wilder's has the most credibility.
Camden Thomas
Not with this. Joshua is a massive earner, they won’t fuck Eddie over on him because of how much he generates in sanctioning fees but they might want the fight anyway if they can’t get Wilder. >Of all their next opponents, Wilder's has the most credibility. Joshua already knocked Breazeale out
Camden Taylor
Ducking the real bratwurst Kabayel
Jordan Bailey
Any french bro can tell me anything about Jean Jacques Olivier? >boxrec.com/en/boxer/744025 He's supposed to fight my man Fabio Turchi, I doubt he's better than Conquest and I'd have preferred another step up. His only notable thing is that he lost to Jur
Justin Smith
Every single heavyweight is a bum. Oleksandr is coming for them
Is Evander Holyfield the only fighter to ever become undisputed champ in two weight divisions?
Anthony Campbell
Dick Tiger Nino Benvenuti
Julian Mitchell
Well is he the only one of the 3 belt era?
Austin Anderson
Kabayel would honestly be a better opponent but he’s not ethnically German. Such a shit opponent for Fury. Even Rivas or that Chinese guy would be better.
Gavin Davis
I believe so yes
Xavier Turner
It's because they're nothing but newfag GGGfags who were pissed because, despite Lampley having a bias for GGG, he wasn't full on fellating Golovkin. Now that they realize what the alternatives are, they're begging for Lampley, Max, and Roy to come back.
Gavin Perry
>if Whyte goes the WBC route then it could potentially make Fury mandatory for the end of the year Fury isn't going to take a mandatory challenger purse split for a shot at Wilder or Joshua, are you fucking high?
Jeremiah Barnes
>The BBBofC have ordered Joe Joyce vs Daniel Dubois for the vacant British heavyweight title, purse bids April 10th.
Would be amazing if it happens but there's practically zero chance of it actually happening.
David Barnes
It's a shame no one cares about British titles enough that they won't just turn down the title shot
Lucas Powell
floyd would knock that lanky bum spark out easy work !!
Carter Sullivan
Based and TMTpilled
Chase Robinson
Wasn't that hughies title? Did he vacate it after being ordered to fight Joyce or something?
>Usyk moving up to the division of the ultimate duckers
Literally going to go undefeated in his career and beat every heavyweight he faces but that’s partly due to the fact Wilder, Fury, and Joshua won’t fight him
Jason Hill
It'll probably end up being Dubois fighting some can. Hunter needs to come back here soon and keep his momentum going
Noah Gutierrez
>Fury fighting Tom Schwarz lmao bet the Fury butt boys will big that nobody up now
Thomas Cox
the big 3 are all fighting shit boxers, fury isn't the only one
Tyler Howard
The black skellington
Kevin Ramirez
At least Joshua is fighting a credible top 10
Evan Thompson
lmao miller despite all the memes isn't that good either
Kayden Howard
And the only thing he's getting out of it is a funeral
>no, they're not a thing simply because doing it the day before is traditional since 1986
Aaron Long
Average boxing fan is so dim. Frank Warren comes out and says he will try to make it because he knows full well Joe Joyce won't want to fight for the British title and PBC have other plans for him so he can make it look like they would want it and everybody gets excited. Fight doesn't happen, they move onto Gorman later in the year
Didn't this nigga only win because he thought the other faggot was unconscious?
Logan Rivera
It's the insta boxer training method. Eubank is on level 100, Ryan is like 10
Cameron Howard
>tfw can't smoke or be an alcoholic because of boxing
Connor Wood
Friendly reminder Mikey Garcia will NEVER fight Loma at 135. Will make loma come up to 140.
this is a fact so don't even bother @'ing me since it's not up for discussion.
Mason Lopez
Loma doesn't need him, all he needs is the WBC belt which Garcia will vacate
Noah Davis
How come there aren't any tourists? When I went there the place was absolutely packed.
Ian Ward
>Loma beats a P4P guy moving up 2 weights and makes him quit. (gives himself no credit and receives none)
>GGG smashes up a big WW who weighed more than him on fight night(gives himself no credit and receives non)
>Errol spence jr decisions a guy coming up 2 weight classes and is no considered top 5 P4P Can someone explain the mentality?
Loma and GGG both said in the ring after their fights where they comprehensively dispatched of their undersized opponents that they take no credit. Yet Errol spence jr is now gloating in beating a mexican midget when he's a fucking big WW..
I don’t blame him for milking it since Mikey somehow convinced everyone that he was some Munguia style weight bully caveman
Owen Garcia
no Date is kill by Ricardo
Jason Fisher
2nd by the WBO
Adam Ramirez
So the major boxing organizations just collude with each other to spread as much money around between themselves as possible right
Benjamin Rogers
They collude with the promoters for favourable treatment, promoters deliver sanctioning fees and in return their fighters are ranked. Every major promoter is primarily aligned with 1 sanctioning body
Jaxson Reed
Fight won't ever happen, he's staying at 147. After Crolla, Loma will be fighting Richard Commey, Teofimo Lopez, Luke Campbell
Christopher King
>Teofimo Lopez Nah, Arum will want him to get some more highlight reel kos
Lopez is pushing hard for a title shot and can't make 135 for much longer don't be surprised if that fight happens in December
Ryder Wright
>can't make 135 for much longer source? the dude is really small
Carter Long
Is Paulie going to get heem'd on bareknuckleFC
Cameron Hughes
Artem has t-rex arms and can't box for shit so no
Jayden Sanders
But is that going to be his first match for sure? I don't want to see him get KO'd by a gay pornstar
Sebastian Reed
>Ring magazine your pound for pound rating is arrant crab. If AJ did not make the list. Your amateurism shows in the explanations you gave about Anthony Joshua. I suggest that the retired boxers should do the rating not groups of people that have never entered the ring for once.
Jackson Young
how the fuck is he really small,he is really big for a lightweight
Jace Russell
NEW
Blake Turner
Can't take any list seriously that doesn't have AJ top 3
