/nfl/ general - OFFSEASON MOVES edition

Hourly reminder

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cringe

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Go P/a/ckers!

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Iggles

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W-we're gonna go back to the superbowl next year, right? A-and we’re gonna win this time, r-right?

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Reminder that LaChad Jackson has more than or as many playoff appearances as these multi-year starters;
Cuckson Wince
Derek Carr
Jameis Winston
Jimmy G
Kurt Cousins
Matt Stafford

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Ogbuechi has to be complete shit for the bengals to not re-sign him right? Hopefully he won’t be the starter.

Nope and nope. That's the chiefs

Where can I bet money on tyreek hills current issue? Like I want to out all my cash on not guilty and no suspension. odds should make me rich due to retards already calling him guilty.

Leave this thread to me.

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Reminder that a 100% black quarterback has NEVER started an entire season and won a Super Bowl.

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>Matt Stafford
objectively wrong, kys old cuck.

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Neither has a quarterback named Dave.

Conclusion: Everyone named Dave is shit.

everyone named dave is shit.

Favorite Player to ever be on your team.
Least Favorite Player to ever be on your team.
Favorite doujin.

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My bad, add Cousins also has more than 1 playoff appearance. again, kys old gay

only one as a starter but old gay is still wrong.

My bad I forgot Chokefords other chokejobs. Still more than Cuckson Wince tho.

Absolutely embarrassing

Do bombstonians ses the chiefs as their rivals or something?

I wouldn't say rivals, but they make us sweat whenever we play them. It's been like that for years.

I just popped a pimple on the inside of my eyelid ama

Marshawn Lynch
Germain Ifedi
What?

they’re just shitcunts really

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Brett Favre
That’s tough, recently, probably Jimmy “I cant block or catch anything give me money” graham
Have dumped gallons to pic related

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Yeah Detoilet should replace Cuckford already.

i didnt fuck my cat. i didnt cum on my cat. i didnt put my dick anywhere near my cat. Ive never done anything weird with my cats. I promised myself i wasnt going to make apology videos after last years thing so im just trying to be as short and honest with this as possible

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as a chiefs fan I like playing the Patriots, even when we lose it's always a great game and the shitposting afterwards is always toptier

mfw based kliff brings johnny manziel to the berbs after he balls out in the aaf

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put the cat down and nobody gets hurt

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Hello new Seahawk fan.

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Do it.

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>Team
>Best offseason acquisition
>Ever been in a fist fight?

Can't wait For Fittmagic to dab on the Patriots

The Lions have no fucking hope, fuck this team

Burrs
HHCD
Twice during HS sporting events, once with a friend but we were drunk so it wasn’t a real fight

Is 4channel exclusively giving me PINK/Victoria’s Secret ads because they think I’m trans?
Vikings fan btw

No it's because you jerked off in your hot aunts underwear in 7th grade

you didnt like buster skrine as much? lol

Can confirm.

t. know a Dave

Imagine being hyped over a coach who never had a winning record in the Big XII.

I'm ok with this

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>kiwi with a gun
I'll take your threat seriously

Huh, so apparently my home team went to The Big Game™ last year. Nobody even talked about it, is football dead?

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based

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>is football dead
Nah, only the Rams offense

Rams had to cheat to get there.

>american without a gun
found a unicorn boys

St Louis has no team stop shitposting

>Is football dead
No, only the Goff's progression

Mathieu Betts.

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based

How many games did he start during the season?

Eagles
Malik Jackson
Yeah, but nothing too serious

kek

Jags-Browns AFC championship game
And there is nothing you can do about it

Did Ben Roethlisberger really fumble that ball 5 years ago that nobody cares about on purpose?

This my dream, but everytime I'm expecting anything from the Jags before the season, they tend to fuck up hard. Last season was tough.

Mfw the Jags signed Bortles to that contract last year.

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Reminder that he had one of the worst playoff debuts ever

I remember when Baker first started there was a Browns fan constantly talking about how bad Baker was in the redzone. I wonder what happened to him as the season progressed.

shhh.. let him suck on his toes and glorify his participation trophy

how could anyone possibly say that after having watched Kizer throw pick after pick after pick in the RZ for an entire year
must have been a false flag

Did a bunch of QB watching this weekend

- Jimmy GQ still has the same issues in 2018 49ers that he had with the Pats, he doesn't feel the blitz fast enough

- Brady didn't have an off year, McDaniels did. Patriots were using the same playbook from 2017, but without the main player who made that playbook work, Brandin Cooks. With the WR turnover they had in the offseason plus Edelman suspended and Josh Gordon in and out everything was a mess. Hogan was used as a #1 receiver the entire year which is idiotic.

- Kyler Murray is easily the #1 pick, only issues are footwork needing to be cleaned up and trust the pocket more when he won't have the best O-Line like he did in college

- Dwayne Haskins is a bust. Great accurate arm, but CAN'T throw it deep at all. Too slow to read coverage and is overly reliant on constant screens and run plays to force the defense to give him simpler looks. HE CANNOT READ COMPLEX COVERAGE. He needs to completely overhaul his footwork and throwing motion, he can't throw deep because he can't throw a good spiral and air resistance is killing his distance.

- Drew Lock is the next great Gunslinger, throws a beautiful ball like Rodgers, but had a great personality and leadership like Favre.

For me it's watching bitchknees getting banned, lol 18-1

are Garoppolo's issues down to his lack of experience or is it likely he'll have those problems forever?
i've watched a fair share of film analysis on him and everybody has a different opinion on what he can become. San Fran should be extremely fun to watch in 2019

Josh Allen to the patriots

So you're saying Haskins is a less mobile Dak?

Haloti Ngata has retired, fwiw

The refs were just retards. Rams did nothing wrong.

Who in the NFL have a better 1-2 punch in their backfield than the Ravens do?

>Mark Ingram II Says He and Lamar Jackson Will ‘Change the Game’
>“I think it’s going to be dangerous; I think we’re going to be explosive,” Ingram said. “I think we’re going to change the game.”

>Lamar Jackson’s recruiting power certainly had some pull with running back Mark Ingram
>Ingram had interest in returning to New Orleans, where he spent the first eight years of his career, but he kept an eye on Baltimore throughout the process.
>Asked whether playing with Jackson in the Ravens’ anticipated run-heavy offense was appealing, Ingram said “1000 percent.”

baltimoreravens.com/news/mark-ingram-ii-says-he-and-lamar-jackson-will-change-the-game

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After all the moves they've made so far, including
>re-signing Graham, Darby, and Peters
>bringing in Malik Jackson, DeSean Jackson, and LJ Fort
the Eagles have over $20 million in cap space

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yfw Metcalf to the Patriots in the 2nd round

Some team is definitely going to reach on him. He'll probably go top 10.

I wouldn't mind them moving up to get Harmon if he reaches the 2nd.
He will decleat an unwary LB

Offensive line is a huge question mark for the Minnesota Vikings.

With Easton’s departure, the Vikings’ only player under contract who is listed as a guard on their roster now is Danny Isidora.

For a position group that is arguably the weakest on their team, Minnesota now has even more work to do when it comes to improving their offensive line this year. Still with very little salary cap space (around $2 million), the Vikings best strategy now may just be to load up on young blockers in the upcoming 2019 NFL Draft.

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>1,952,897,961,081.53 Vietnamese đồng

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49ers
Jason Verrett
A few, broke my nose, broke a few back.

Raiders will blow one of their picks.

I can already hear the excuses

Me on the left.

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baaed ingram knows how great lachad is.

i mean if it helps keep their contract demnds down, you gotta do whatever it takes i guess

Drew Lock, Kyler Murray, & Haskins all need to completely overhaul their footwork. Daniel Jones is the most NFL ready QB.

except you didn't.

Drew Lock can't hit the broad side of barn and his completion percentage was bumped up his senior year by all the swing and screen passes.

Haskins is lazy, everyone knows that

Brady didn't have any good wrs really so they went Rush heavy all season

and Jimmy GQ is... well... he's kind of stupid.

Also kyler isn't easily the number 1 pick, the big question is can a 5'10 205 qb survive 5 years in the NFL. This isn't baker who is 6'1 215-220 now. Different builds same with wilson. Murray has mike tyson legs (huge quads small calves) with a mixture of wilson/manziel upper body (jacked shoulders and arms but a gut which gives him 10 extra fat pounds)

Who can stop us?

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A wet sheet of paper could stop them

Unlikely, Browns will make a good season but they'll reach the divisional at best. Jags don't even make the playoffs.

*picks off faker gayfield 4 or more times in your path*

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Stay mad lions fag

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WELL MAYBE I WILL

>still nothing about tyreek hill

is this gonna be like hunt where it will only matter halfway through the season

legit bottom of the division this year. zimmer will demand more runs while cooks will get sub 3 ypc and cousins will lead the league in sacks and fumbles

I think they sweep the division IF the opener is in chicago. if they play in chicago later, they lose

Saint of the day:
Saint Cyril of Jerusalem, Bishop, Confessor and Doctor of the Church

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>signs and drafts underperforming defenders
>rest of the division adds pass rushers
bold strategy

Hill will be cleared of all charges and this will be forgotten in a week

>tfw shitting lava into a toilet at work cuz I ate fried chicken seasoned with Carolina reaper peppers last night
How's your monday going bros?

Name your three teams who have done the best in FA so far

>Cinci cuts Burfict
Fucking finally. Maybe the refs can lay off a bit now.

I'm having major diarrhea because of the bangs and coffee's I drank to write a English essay, so I had to skip class

probably gonna smoke a joint on this toilet and post here, awful morning but it might get better

What do you think the Chefs will do if it turns out the whole "child abuse" thing was a big nothing burger and they let one of their best receivers go over nothing?

Reminds me when the Redskins picked up Reuben Foster and everyone was giving the shit over it like, "I cannot believe you would sign someone who abuses women," but then it turns out that the girlfriend was a liar and the incident never happened and the Redskins got a quality linebacker for nothing.

>have not had a solid stool in over a year.

I should see a doctor.

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>Jimmy GQ is... well... he's kind of stupid.

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Foster is a dumb fuck.

I actually think that's why they are waiting and not jumping to conclusions, they know they cant lose both hunt and hill so after already losing hunt dont cut hill until it seems like you absolutely have to

get a better diet beeg boi

pic related, it's you

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That is the reason the Redskins picked up Foster.

If that abuse thing is true, then you can just cut him. If not? You just got a linebacker without needing to trade anything.

This only started when I moved, and my diet is exactly the same from before.

Must be something in the water.

Saints gonna get shit on this season. Brees was showing his age towards the end of last year. The best throw in the NFCCG was made by Basedom Hill.

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hm, that is weird. I will pray for you to have solid poops user

RIP Burfict

thanks, you too.

the raiders are my favorite team
i like them alot
like alot
go raiders

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Every fucking college QB has footwork issues. I can remember Bakers main detractors talked about his height and "happy feet". People talked about Mahomes footwork. It's basically the argument that you make when you can't find any glaring issue with a QB. Daniel Jones is a noodle armed game managing faggot. At least Drew Lock or Haskins have elite upside. Jones is Dalton. Murray is Russel Wilson.

How the fuck do I get rid of a bird nest right outside my window? I'm on the second floor and I can't reach it from inside. The bastard are driving me crazy. Is there a poison I can out for them?

What kinda bird? Why are they bothering you? Noise?

Broomstick, just fucking wack it like the ratbirds they are

I don't know what they are but they're little piece of shit brown ones that love pecking at the gutters.

>Brees is old as fuck and can't throw deep any more
>Murray is a much worse complement to Kamara than Ingram was
>ZERO (0) passing weapons outside of Thomas, who is quickly becoming the NFL's Next Top Diva
>OL in shambles after losing Unger
>DL regressing hard without Okafor and Rankins
>Still only one (1) good linebacker in Davis
>Secondary is once again worse than dogshit
>Screen Payton somehow has a job still
>Next to no cap room and one (1) draft pick in the first 4 rounds
The Aints are finished, and NOLA's meltdown will be beautiful to watch.

Play some heavy metal music. It's a known fact that most birds are devout Catholics

faker gayfield sucks dick

I agree with some points but they're O line is still good.
Reciever and TE will be a problem.
Don't hate on Payton, guys an offensive genius.

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You are both invited to the Falcons bandwagon once we dominate the division for the next five years

Lmao, he mad that the BROWNS got reincarnated Brees with a bigger arm than Brees ever had.

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this, wack it and provide video

>implying i would ever root for a shitlanta team

Wow they cut my nigga Vontaze.

Fuck this racist league, they can't handle a prime specimen of black masculinity like Burfict.

Falcons are going on my division winner acca this year, my man. Stick a cheeky wee tenner on it

Pats
Chiefs
Colts or Texans
Browns

Falcons
Iggles
Vikings
Shawks

A combination of decent odds and surethings.

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use a gun like the American you are.

>black masculinity
Is that what the hood calls a criminal record?

My Ravens will pick him up for cheap and he'll have a career year.

wrong my team has the actual best qb in the afc north pic very related.

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Cant wait til they have a mediocre season and Sean payton replaces Jason Garrett finally

payton is an above average coach but is nothing special

so close to being right
just remove the vikings

I dont get this payton to dallas thing. Whats the connection?

He used to work for Dallas and is still chummy with jerruh. Been talks of it fer years

>Implying that Bruce Arians isn't about to break the division in half

Based, Go Raiders!

What kind of dumbass question is this. The Patriots have had three rivals during Belichick's career: Peyton Manning, the Ravens defense, and Miami in Miami. The flash-in-the-pan Chiefs are nothing.

Pats
Ravens
Chiefs
Colts

Browns
Texans

Cowboys
Vikings
Niners
Falcons

Panthers
Seahawks

>Vikings
Why do you want to lose your money

>ravens
>vikings
max yikes

>Vikings
>Seahawks
>Niners
>Ravens
>Cowboys
wew lad if this is your playoff predictions list I'd advise to lay off the pipe

>AFC
Reasonable enough
>NFC
Are you fucking high my nigga?

Gonna be sweet when the Ravens win the divison again and the Browns are third at best again. Uppity Browns fans need to be put in their place.

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Tom Brady is 8-9 against the Broncos in his career, including a 1-3 playoff record.

chiefs
pats
colts
browns
ravens
jets

eagles
packers
seahawks
panthers
bears
rams

>Jets
>Packers

Ok? And how many times have the Broncos been to the playoffs after Manning left.

Patriots
Chiefs
Colts
Ravens
Chargers
Browns

Rams
Falcons
Bears
Cowboys
Panthers
Seahawks

The Broncos have recorded wins against Tom Brady with the following quarterbacks:

Brian Griese (2 times)
Jake Plummer (3 times!)
Kyle Orton
Peyton Manning (2 times)
Brock Osweiler

Now this, this is baysed

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Cowboys are going bud

>you now remember Jake Plummer
Jesus. Anyway, I don't consider the Broncos the Patriot's rivals, it was only ever Peyton Manning. When it was Manning/Dungy vs Brady/Belichick, that was a rivalry.

>Cowboys
Wentz suffers a season ending injury where cowboys win division by default after foles no longer is around to bail eagles out. Wentz is the next coming of Sam Bradford.
>Seahawks
Wilson carries Seahawks to another free wildcard.
>Vikings
Vikings make playoffs every other year. Packers are garbage now and bears will regress
>Ravens
Their defense is gonna school the rest of the AFCN beating browns in tiebreakers forcing browns to 5th seed.
>Niners
After mcvay got exposed running old plays literally taped and explained on tv Goff turns back into a pumpkin and Jimmy G wins. By default.

>KC signs former packers CB Bashaud Breeland

good, bad, or meh?

I get that the Colts were definitely seen as the Patriots' biggest challengers because of the Manning-Brady rivalry, but they were 5-8 against the Pats while Manning and Brady were both on those teams, with only one playoff win. They also haven't beaten the Patriots since 2009. I think people should appreciate the fact that Mike Shanahan was able to hold his own against the Pats without the luxury of Peyton Manning in the 2000s.

jets added some good players
bears are going to regress, packers are adding new blood and will overperform with a chip on their shoulder

lmao

>ravens winning division
>rams first seed
>no packers
yawn

>Vikings make playoffs every other year.
yikes
>Packers are garbage now
double yikes

average at best athlete, any success is from training and experience
good compliment piece, you have to hope he isnt CB1 though

Chiefs
Jags
Pats
Ravens

Rams
Falcons
Vikings
Redskins

Colts/Pats were like the Celtics/Lakers of basketball and Manning/Brady was Magic/Bird. They may have only played 3 times in the finals in that decade but everyone saw that as the rivalry. Sure other teams beat them in the playoffs but that was the beauty of it, when they finally met and showed off the greatest qbing ever. It was never the same with any other matchup

>it's the offseason
>only have seen one user say the Chargers would win the AFC West
After all these years, they're finally learning

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We should sign him or Suh desu

Eagles D will carry em, also Redskins might pop-up as a WC if the back up can hold his muster, the Seahawks and Rams will probably get there but the hawks are really weak outside of Wilson, Vikings and Kirk cousins, nah, Maybe the burrs again if the Fangio departure doesn't totally fuck em, the packers are always gonna be a playoff pick because muh Rodgers,Ravens won't get there, gonna say Shittsburgh and MAYBE Cleveland and for the 49ers, see above.

That'll be the only thing a chorf will ever win hahahahaha

>Dolphins signing Fitztragic
>No overpaying of over the hill FAs
>Cutting old players/dead money

There’s no turning back from the tank. It’s gonna be a rough season for us in Miami. I can’t wait to see Tua in Aqua next year.

are you saying the Chiefs aren't legit dangerous

Loins winning a WC next season

They haven't been able to overcome Reid's awful playoff mishaps, so yes they're nothing just a waste of a playoff spot

>there are people on this sub reddit who truly believe the eagles are good

How will the world remember Clay Matthews after he retires?

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who are you quoting?

better than he will

As the guy who was in those commercials with Rodgers.

>jags
>ravens
>rams
>vikings
>redskins
>any of these winning the division
ouch

packers defense will be above average and they have been very efficient at rushing the last two years. rodgers will just be a convenient bonus

>patricia
>stafford
>that roster
3rd in division

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This used to be funny

Is it unfunny now because the kiwi fag is in jail?

ravens = Yea Forums

browns = reddit

>Ravens
funnyjunk
>Steelers
9gag
>Bengals
SomethingAwful
>Browns
4channel

>el greco is a christfag
Damn, too bad. I liked you.

I don't buy cleveland. Does paying for two top-flight receivers ever pay off for a team 5 years down the line? Only comparable I can think of is cincinasty with 85 and TO.

>Vikings
lol. I agree with every other choice though.

>titans
Ebaum's World

This wouldve been better if they weren't paying Landry big money when he's just a solid WR2 who gets the ball spammed at him, however, because he's besties with ODell he can control him. Freddie QW Kitchens and Baker GX Mayfield boutta start shittin on niggas.

The Rams. I've been seeing a lot of people talking about how elite receivers don't win Superbowls and it's the most ridiculous reasoning I've seen in a while. Do you honestly think the Browns would be a better team without Jarvis and OBJ? Fuck it just cut every receiver that's even slightly good because apparently good receivers harm your chances at winning a Superbowl.

>NFC North is sending 3 teams to the playoffs
Bold prediction

You must like or dislike me for my acts and my behavior, not for my beliefs and traditions. Have a good day bro.

paying two WRs 30 million dollars does generally harm your chances at winning a super bowl yeah

How is it hurting the Browns? By the time those contracts are finished their core team will be coming off their rookie deals.

>How is it hurting the Browns?
how would we know that? they haven't played together yet. but committing that much cap to a non premium position is risky, what if they want to extend mayfield or other guys early? what if they have a great season this year but they want to spend big in FA to get over the hump? i don't mind paying for OBJ, but 14 million a year for Landry is dumb.

It works if you aren't overpaying your Quarterback. Otherwise, it cripples you completely. It's why the patriots got away with Edelman, Gronk, hogan and danny. All those guys were like 30 million combined at one point but atleast brady wasn't being a dipshit.

Problem with WR's is the tend to be diva's because the position is incredibly physically exclusive to play. You have to be a rare genetic freak to be one the big 3 Wrs and they know it so they turn into shit magnets and cap eaters.

Hopefully beckham got his ass humbled some. He's good just not a top 5 wr easy

I answered partially here
As for are the contracts hurting them now? No, it was a good move by dorsey. Garrett, Baker, Ward all have another 2 or 3 years of cheap contracts. Dorsey is smart and he'll trade, cut or drop one of the Wrs by the time he has to resign one of those 3 players.

Like I said good when you don't have qb or "once in a generation pass rusher (who actually comes alone every year" eating up your cap room

You're the one making the knowledge claim that it's hurting the Browns. Christ man, they still have over 30 million in cap space. They're not going to extend Mayfield until the 5th year because he's on his rookie deal. It's the same deal with all the big names, like Garret, Chubb, and Ward. They're not going to have to pay anyone for a few years.

I only have a limited experience of your actions, just from a few posts on the sports section of a jamaican yo-yoing imageboard. Your beliefs and how you present them say a lot about your character.

>You're the one making the knowledge claim that it's hurting the Browns
nope, I said paying WRs that kind of money is detrimental to winning an owl in general. i didn't make any comment about the Browns until you asked me, and even then I only gave hypotheticals.

do Browns fans actually think they're going to contend this year? I can never tell how serious these posts are

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>I answered partially here
Well not really. Any player can be a an asshole and a team full of assholes can win games. You're assuming Jarvis and OBJ will hurt the Browns IF they're assholes and IF being an asshole contributes to a problem. That doesn't tell us why paying for good receivers IS hurting the Browns.

Yes, you said paying the receiver is detrimental to their chances at winning a Superbowl. I asked you why you believed that and you said we couldn't know. If you can't tell me how having Jarvis and OBJ is hurting the Browns chances at winning a Superbowl you can't say that receivers hurt a teams chances at winning a Superbowl in general.

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

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They're legit dangerous

>if you can't prove a point for one specific example you can't make statements about that point in general
that's not really how logic works, but sure man. it remains a bad idea in general to pay two WRs 30 million dollars a year, so you can take your insecurities about your team elsewhere. i'm not attacking them.

1: Patriots
2: Chargers
3: Colts
4: Browns

5: Chiefs
6: Texans

1: Bears
2: Saints
3: Cowboys
4: Seahawks

5: Rams
6: Packers

Colts > Texans, Browns < Chiefs
Cowboys > Packers, Rams > Seahawks

Chargers > Colts, Patriots > Chiefs
Bears > Rams, Saints > Cowboys

Patriots > Chargers
Bears > Saints

Last Superbowl loss of TB12’s career, Gronk retires after, BB scraps together a last-year team to win one more owl and retires with Brady after the 7th ring in 2021.

softest division in football with real clear cut talent to compete, team was on a big upswing latter half of the season

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

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You're completely unable to support the conclusion that paying receivers hurts a teams chances at winning a Superbowl.

>softest division
lol that’s the AFCE

If the Browns cut OBJ and Jarvis are they increasing their chances at winning a Superbowl?

I could see this desu, maybe with the hawks and rams switched. I think the Bears will go pretty far despite everyone saying “they’re gonna regress” as though their competition (rams, saints, vikings, boys, so on) either won’t or hasn’t already

>team was on a big upswing latter half of the season
funnily enough, that coincides with their easiest stretch of scheduling for the season. after getting pasted by the Chiefs 37-21, they played seven teams, winning five of them. All five wins were against non playoff teams, and both losses were against playoff teams. it's fine to think the Browns will be a good team, but let's cool it on them being dangerous.

Browns have a better 1-2-3 punch with Chubb-Hunt-Johnson

it all starts with winning the games youre supposed to

Moves aren't made in a vacuum. If they had the picks and players they traded for OBJ and Landry as well as 30 million more in cap space I think they'd be in a similar position. WRs are a luxury, not a necessity. The last team to win an owl with a legitimately stacked WR corps was the 2010 Packers.

RELEVENCY REMINDER

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It's great that the Browns have graduated from being the team everyone is supposed to beat to a team that beats teams they are supposed to beat, for the most part. I just think they're still a year or two away.

*dabs on faker gayfield and the clowns in your path*

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If they're in a similar position then how can you say paying 30 million for the receiver is hurting them?

no one cares, reddit bay

I have literally never said that the Browns paying OBJ and Landry is hurting them. I've said the entire time that IN GENERAL it is not great to pay that much to two WRs. The Browns are in a situation where they have a ton of cap and a QB on a rookie contract, so while paying them that much isn't ideal, it's a non-issue.

....why did I even write that. I explained how it is good for the browns considering their situation however most of the time, paying a wr more than 10 million a year is a stupid idea.

Assholes turn into off the field distractions, create locker room issues, twitter shit magnets and hold outs.

There's a reason BB runs their asses off and keeps winning. Andy Reid, Carroll and even Peyton does the same thing.

Not only that it screws up the whole salary cap structure of the team, which I don't think user's get.

The patriots won't pay anyone more than brady, ever because he's brady. Brady takes way less money than he can get because he wants a good team to play on. You get a wr wanting 15 million, your qb is getting 25 million all the sudden a young pass rusher pops up, he's saying well I want 20 million cause these two guys are getting 15 and 20. Salaries don't exist in vacuums. There's leverage involved.

Guy 1 gets 25 million
Guy 2 will want 20 mill and has reason to claim he can get it
guy 3 will want 18 mill
Then go to the patriots
Brady gets 15 million or so
Guy 1 wants 20 million... oh wait.

Can’t wait for Flacco to play the best season of his career in Denver and flip their record

>no packers
Well yea, we're talking about the playoffs user

>yfw the browns have the fewest playoff losses in the NFL

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except you do ya simp

As the second best Clay Matthews

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RAIDERS

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Anyone want some delicious cake?

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/Bills Owl 2020/

We're taking it back boys.
Lions = garbage
Packers = garbage
Bears = garbage

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/Bills Owl 2020/

Lets get a KOTN broship going fellow PurpleBro.

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>Burfict released
lol RIP in peace ya dirty nigga

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I understand your point. It's true that I'm a pretty traditional and conservative person, but I find perfectly compatible my respect for the Orthodox tradition with the critical thinking and the undeniable facts of science. In fact, a big referent for me was Carl Sagan and despite being Christian I blame the Christians for the dead of my beloved Hypatia and the burning of the bibliothiki of Alexandria. Extremism on religions is one of the cancers of the humanity, but there's nothing wrong with the faith and the liturgy as long as you don't harm other people. Sorry for all the text, that's basically my POV

>you now remember that the cowboys traded their 1st round pick in a draft loaded at the top with pass rushers for Amari Cooper
>they also won their division just to get btfo and now have a more difficult schedule
L E L

Cool man, you've gained back some respect. You seem like a decent person.

Checked but cringe

Dont be sleeping on my steelers now, ya heard? Ya dig, nigga?

Thanks and I apologise to other posters for all the off topic. Let's talk about football.

>Browns
>fans
wew
Literally 99% of the hype is wishing thinking from other teams perpetually buttmad at the rest of the AFC North
The more you know

Vikes are worse than burrs and loins now tho

it happens every 3 or 4 years desu. They build up so much talent "there's no way this could go wrong" then reality kicks in. Unless Kitchens can outcoach tomlin/harbaugh 7-9 to 9-7 range

Browns, easily. Chubb and Hunt. Not to mention Duke. Fucking Ravenfags are delusional.

9-7 record is perfectly achievable for them, even 10-6. That hype about making the Championship, even the Owl, it's a bit delusional. But Browns fans are allowed to dream consider from when they're coming.

*Where

huh im a raiders fan now

>make receiver the highest paid receiver in nfl history.
>trade him away seven months later.
>still take a $20 million dollar cap hit.

mlb.nbcsports.com/2019/03/18/phillies-players-were-playing-fortnite-in-the-clubhouse-during-games-last-year/

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Be a Raiders fan and wanting to be inside a Raiders fan it's not the same

>pats homer sleeping in the Bills

They have no shot at the division but fuck if they aren't better than the toxins

damn, I wish the Phillies could be more like the Orioles and lose 100 games this season

how good will he be

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He'll be okay, but split carries with AP

Mad at the O's?

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I'm buying. Second year qb with competent OL and receiver play. D has been borderline elite for a decade. I'll bite.

yeah but being a raiders fan gets you closer to being inside a raiders fan

splitting carries with AP is the plan, and both Guice and AP said they have no problem with it.

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What the fuck is that from?

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Not really, girls love to travel and experiment different cultures, they love that rush of adrenaline when they're not loyal to their regular habits and zone of comfort. That's extrapolable to female football fans.

I loved watching redzone and seeing him throw brutal redzone picks on the regular. Hopefully peterman will get some run next season.

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gross.

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based Santana did the right thing. I hope Kapler can manage the locker room this season.

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Based MaCHADo is gonna cuck Bruce Larper out of the NL MVP this year.

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>Mack

YIKES

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Is 4channel blocked in NZ now? Does this mean the kiwi is never coming back?

Based

Cringe

Don't worry about him, when the goal is baiting hard and shitposting, Kiwi will always find a way.

Always had a weakness for blondes, also tthicc girls

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And tats

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People, I implore you to read the comments Gettleman made this morning and right now on Francesca show'

Dude is completely out of his geriatric mind and if they draft Daniel Jones, I may take a sabitical for 2 years when they eventually draft Trevor Lawrence or when Gettleman gets fired.

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So I guess you all like the photos?

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I do, keep em coming bro.

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Milf

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I'd like to piss in Gettlemans face. Fuck that cancer ridden fuck.

He had the fucking GALL to ask for MY 49ers 2nd pick AND DeForest Buckner for OBJ. And settled with the Browns left overs. I'm fucking mad at the disrespect.

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why are raiders fans so trashy

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disgruntled?

Disgusting

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Raiders will sign Burfict

Ss who

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enjoy a key component to the worst defense in the nfl last season lol. burfict is washed and refs watch him like a hawk so he cant play dirty anymore

Virgin

You know, sometimes I start believing what you guys say about my hometown of Philadelphia. How we are the worst, and then some Oakland nigger comes around posting filfthy Mexican women like it’s something to be proud about and then I don’t feel so bad

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>profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/18/analytics-group-calls-raiders-trading-khalil-mack-the-best-move-of-the-year/

>the first trade of a complete rebuild is the best transaction
come on. that award could have gone to teams that actually improved themselves and won shit last year. fuck (((analysts))) and fuck (((clickbait)))

New Jersey and Baltimore are easily worse

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doesnt make the thot any less trashy

Holy fuck what a JOKE fuck that senile cocksucker

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I think this one is a porn star

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Another raiders fan who enjoys being fucked in the ass, of course.

This one is asian I think

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Looks like Colombian to me

>Go Raiders

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the right kind of thicc
chubby but not in a gross fat way

Amen

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they even sunk past the second and third best team in the division you say...

He sucks, but at least he's better than Corey Graham.

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Last one

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thank god

NFC east
Eagles

NFC south
Atlanta

NFC West
Rams

NFC North
Bears

AFC east
Past

AFC south
Clots

AFC west
Chiefs

AFC North
Pittsburgh

>Andrew Sendejo
not sure about that one chief

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see I'm not terribly happy, but I think it's at least a bit of an upgrade. They still need to draft a decent deep safety to develop.

>AFC south
>Clots
lmao

>Raiders looking at Vontaze Burfict
Yeah I'm sure him and AB on the same team would go over wonderfully. Might as well make it a total chimpout if you're going to tank the season anyway, right?

It's not 2015 anymore, honey

>baguars
>tits
>toxins

Ya my contention remains my guy

Source?

Eagles
Skins
Cowboys
Giants

Bears
Packers (wc)
Vikings
Lions

Panthers
Saints
Falcons
Buccs

Seahawks
Rams (wc)
Niners
Cards

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Pats
Jets
Bills
Phins

Steelers
Browns (wc)
Bengals
Ravens

Texans
Colts (wc)
Jags
Titans

Chefs
Chargers
Raiders
Broncos

Texans are the best AFCS team and it's not really close. I'll admit Luck is better than Watson (for now), but we have a better overall team

1000 degree Fahrenheit take here.

All of your opinions are trash except mine.

My older dog keeps growling at him

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They're currently a Super Bowl contender in the AFC, so they are the main competition right now. With Reid as coach, they've also whipped >our asses a couple times.

Don't discount Rex Ryan's Jests for those two good years.

They play like shit (compared to the rest of their record) in Miami and Denver.
You might put altitude and humidity as rivals as well.

this is a laughable post considering the result of the playoff game last year. enjoy another season of Watson scrambling for dear life behind that sieve you call an OL.

Literally the only things the Texans have over the Colts is DL and DeAndre Hopkins. Colts are better in every other category and it's not particularly close.

Steven Jackson
Tavon Austin
Fuck nigga you think I remember what they're called?

Except TY Hilton with Andrew Luck is better than Hopkins.

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>Except TY Hilton with Andrew Luck is better than Hopkins.
fucking LOL. I'm glad Colts fans are outing themselves are completely braindead

>TY Hilton
>better than Hopkins
Maybe if he could go 3-4 games without being borked.

In no world is TY Hilton better than DeAndre Hopkins. Hopkins is arguably the best WR in the league, Hilton is just very good.

Brian Dawkins
Does Head coach count? I fucking hated chip kelly

NUCLEAR HOT TAKE

THE LIONS WILL TRADE FOR DEREK CARR AND WIN AN OWL AGAINST THE BELLSHIT PATRIOTS

How would they win an owl with a downgrade at QB?

"No"

The truth hurts and is sometimes shocking

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Yeah nah, you're just retarded

DEREK GETS ANGRY AND UNLEASHES HIS HATRED BY RAGE PASSING ALL THE WAY INTO AN OWL

i don't think the rage of a cuck is going to do much against turbochad Brady my dude

The raiders are not trading a pro bow qb

The rage of cucks can be llethal, just look at Kiwi

Remember that time he got so mad on the field he started crying and shitting himself?

yikes

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without OBJ
>2 SB

with OBJ
>0 SB

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Can we talk about the Titans for once?

2014 to present dumbass.

does it seem like 2011 to you rn

Sure. You suck, you stole your team, your coach is garbage, your QB is garbage, you've never won anything, and you never will.

Brady/Belichick will never lose to Detoilet again.

The strongest opinion I have on the Titans is "I am aware they exist"

I'M FINALLY FITTING IN

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>rooting for a team you'll never see play in person

Oh yeah, forgot to add, suck my ass.

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Jesus dude, who pissed in your cornflakes?

Stan fucking Kroenke.

Speculation =/= hot take

>twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1107724327632424961
This guy's hand usage is scary good

They're a team.

hahahahaha. The rams couldn't have stayed in St Louis. STL is a giant shithole now. Where are you from? STL is one of the worst most poverty stricken cities in a america. It's near 2nd world shit

Steve McNair was killed by his wife lol

>Foreskins sign Ereck Flowers

lmfao

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They'll never have the charm the Oilers had.

I live in St. Louis county, squarely middle class. And they could have, quite literally we were trying to build them a 800 million dollar stadium for free.

Also the "You can't stay in a poor city!" shit doesn't really hold water when Cleveland and Detroit still have teams.

Mine are getting along ok

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The patriots fans have a sadistic enthusiasm for sonning Andy Reid in every game that matters. They just like picking on fat guys I guess.

Is he ever coming back to coaching?

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They're a pretty cool team if you live in the Nashville area since a lot of those guys are out and about (I saw Mike Vrabel over at Martin's BBQ once). Nationally they're not that exciting since they're an O-Line/D-Line focused team.

The Thursday Night game last year was a lot of fun in-person, but I do wish the Titans had a more vocal fanbase. Was hoping they'd rub it in when out-of-town Eagles/Patriots fans waltzed into town to take over the stadium only to get BTFO and realize the Titans aren't a free win.

my favorite part about the OBJ trade is that people will say that at least they got a first round pick out of it. this guy was a top 10 pick of theirs

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>Tomlin tries to trip a nigga
>Cowher tries to punch a nigga

Based Grecobro

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Comparing Jerry Reese's front office to Dave Gettleman's is apples to oranges.

Gettleman is ruthless and sent Odell and Vernon to Cleveland (Which was pro football Siberia just a year ago) to get rid of horrible contracts and bad attitudes. Reese told Andrew Whitworth to fuck off so he could sign an old, washed up Brandon Marshall.

Wow that's a great take by Greekfag in Spain. Honestly nobody fucking cares about you Tennessee and you robbed the league of a top 5 colorway scheme in the Houston Oilers, and forced Houston to have to adopt those horrendous Texans unis. The titans have done more to ruin the aesthetics of the league than any other single franchise. WHO THE FUCK THINKS ITS OK TO HAVE BLUE/LIGHT BLUE AS THEIR MAIN COLORWAY

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Kek what is he even trying to do

Must be a Steelers thing

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The way I was thinking about it is, where would OBj get picked if he was in the draft? Definitely before 17. So would you trade back from a top 5 pick to 17 in exchange for Jabrill Peppers?

Make something positive out of a bottom 5 o line. The situation in NYCG is bleak

No, I meant the left tackle in that webm

Would I do a swap + 1st round and jabrill peppers? Yeah probably. It wasn't a bad trade imho. It was a whiffed draft last year because they could have taken a QB or even elite O Line both of which would have been better than HB for their overall roster.

>

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Bail out Luke Joeckel so he won't be regarded as the biggest O-Line bust of the 2010s.

don't make me get all /pol/ in here but STL completely fell apart. just google demographic changes. Everyone who was smart and had money left. Everyone else moved into the city, property values crashed, schools went to shit, riots happened.

I wouldn't

His hands are huge

I’m the Minnesota Vikings

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OBJ in this draft? probably a first rounder but mid to late given his age, skill set and injury history. Peppers is a pretty good starter, and the 17 and 3rd in this years draft are useful seeing how it's loaded with DL/edge rushers and they need one.

Upgrade over Corey Graham i guess.

I had someone I know in Minnesota tell me that Sendejo is a huge asshole IRL. He's also dirty as fuck which means he's perfect for the Eagles.

I mean I don't see why not if you have the overall roster that the Giants do. Its not like they're one or two players away and they OBJ was a cap albatross. People say you shouldn't trade away talent but it worked well for Jimmy Johnson.

who exactly is a dirty player on the current Eagles? or are you talking out of your ass?
i'd hardly compare a first rounder and Peppers to the haul Johnson got for Herschel Walker lol. i also wouldn't put any stock in the current Giants management to properly rebuild the team.

TD or nah?

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>Houston about to get engulfed by toxic smog due to chemical plant explosion

Good fucking riddance

It's not, clearly doesn't have control when he crosses the plane. What was it ruled?

ball didn't break the plane
knees and elbows down before he put the ball past the line

Broke the plane the split second the defender shoved him back. Call on the field was touchdown. It's a touchdown.

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Nigger I live here. I quite literally know exactly what it's like. Most of the people who left the city went into the country, and those that left the county left the state because of shit like companies moving their HC's because other cities literally bribing them to do so(no seriously, in the 50's and 60's Chicago bribed a lot of companies to move from STL up north. Shit's crazy).

Bullshit

Control when crossing the plane is irrelevant. The play is dead when the plane is crossed

County not country.

saurce me matey

>what is possession

Looks like a TD to me

From that angle, the tip crosses the plane. Really close, though.

Anyone who has a strong opinion about this is wrong.

he was rushing it dude he had the ball, just cuz it wobbled doesn't mean shit, it already crossed the plane by that point

as a raiders fan I still hate the chiefs the most except maybe the hideously clad broncos, but I gotta say mahomes is cool and I'd hang out with him

bit gay tbqh

yeah i guess that's the confessional aspect of it

"Cowboys Eric Berrys first visit" oh nonononono dont do this to me jerruh

Just because you can't get as much as Jimmy did doesn't mean you shouldn't trade away an asset when you need help at offensive/defensive line and a QB of the future. That's like 3 top 5 picks worth of a hole that the Giants are in right now at least. To contend they'll need all the picks they can get and hope they get mid and late round contribution.

For me, this is the frame where he breaks the plane with possession. I'd say TD, but obviously there's not enough evidence either way to overturn whatever the call on the field was.

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I've noticed I just trust people with his bone structure, like his head/ear shape: Schwarzenegger, tupac, myself

Did the Packers cheat their 2010-2011 owl?

generally you shouldn't trade away an asset that a. you gave a ridiculous contract to that you have to eat a bunch of dead money on and b. is the exact type of player you'd like your new potential franchise QB to grow alongside.

they got Jabrill Peppers, but the only reason they needed him is that Gettleman was too cheap to resign Collins while being perfectly fine eating Eli's 17 million. they got the 17th overall pick, but lost their number one receiver and overpaid for a 30 year old slot WR to replace him. everything they've done is extremely contradictory, and they still have to hit on the picks they've got and most of their picks for the foreseeable future, which they don't generally do. if the Giants are trying to rebuild, they should stop also trying to squeeze 6 wins out of their garbage roster every year.

Is it ignorant to say that A;;en's best comp is Doug Williams

Reminder that the Giants front office is terrible.

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Updatex list of how many total 2019 draft picks each team has:
12: NE, NYG
11: CIN
10: BUF, ARI, GB, PIT
9: WAS, DET, ATL, IND
8: CLE, OAK, BAL, KC, DEN, MIN
7: JAC, HOU, PHI, CAR, TB, LAR, MIA, LAC
6: NYJ, NO, TEN, DAL, SF
5: CHI
4: SEA

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Giants are mostly late round camp bodies tho

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But they have to try and hit on those picks otherwise you're just treading water for a decade like the cowboys have been. I'm also not convinced the Giants are going QB this draft I think they may go OT and DE early and full tank this season to draft a QB tippy top of the draft. As for refilling the WR position idk who it will be but we've seen: OBJ, AB, and Alshon Jeffrey move in the last 5 years plus a bunch of other lesser Wideouts. I'd be fine holding pat at WR until the rest of my franchise is built and then reeling in a free agent receiver.

I'd buy one fir $20, looks cool to rock (unless you're a Giants or Browns fan)

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Did they have sexual activity that night Yea Forums?

cowher always looks like he just bit into a deodorant stick.

>But they have to try and hit on those picks otherwise you're just treading water for a decade like the cowboys have been
the Cowboys problem over the last decade has not been hitting their draft picks, they have a ton of Pro Bowlers. their problem is shitty coaching, which the Giants also have.
>I'm also not convinced the Giants are going QB this draft
of course they're not, Gettleman has unironically said he thinks Eli is still good.
>and full tank this season to draft a QB tippy top of the draft
unfortunately for you, Gettleman has also said he wants to win while rebuilding. enjoy the saddest 5-6 win season of all time.
>As for refilling the WR position idk who it will be but we've seen: OBJ, AB, and Alshon Jeffrey move in the last 5 years
AB left because of a locker room meltdown, OBJ left because of the Giants' utter incompetence, and Jeffery hit FA after getting tagged the year before because of his injury history. this isn't a good sign for being able to snag someone comparable to OBJ.

How would that look cool to rock unless you were a gnats fan?

Reminder that only Super Bowl wins against Tom brady count.

>the browns have a better
kek lol wheeze!

>((((((Media)))))) is full of people from either Boston or Philadelphia
>The media is full of Eli haters who have been working night and day to force the Giants to get rid of him and to discredit him for the past two years

really makes me think

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Redskins are signil former Giants legend OT Ereck Flowers to 1-year, $4M deal, but they plansl to use him as a guard, not tackle

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This is Eli Manning, the only starting quarterback to ever defeat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. Say something nice about him.

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sorry you haven't had a good season in like five years my man

Steve Largent
Blair Walsh
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>This is Eli Manning, the only starting quarterback to ever defeat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl
lmao Gnats fans can't even get their facts right either

More likeable than his overrated chokelord brother.

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Dolphins’ current QB depth chart:

*Ryan Fitzpatrick
*Jake Rudock
*Luke Falk

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It generates more clicks to shit on the QB/HC than it does to acknowledge the Giants roster has been in shambles for years thanks to shitty drafting a front office staffed by braindead monkeys.

He seems like a likeable guy off the field.

I'm not a Giants fan I'm just saying Gettlemans situation was complex, but its also his own fault for taking Saquon last year and not a QB or O Line. Giants would have looked pretty decent with mcglinchy or Nelson

i'm sure the Giants roster being ass has nothing to do with paying Eli like a top 10 QB when he's barely top 20. but yeah, keep him on the team, the rest of the division will thank you.

Crazy how LaChad can be 6-2 as a starter and recieve so much hate yet Faker who is 7-7 has everyone sucking his dick. I wonder why that might be?

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Perhaps because LamaRB can't throw a football

It has everything to do with their idiotic FO giving him such an asinine contract to begin with and refusing to move on from him when he started declining. I see you didn't read that part of my post though. Dumb nigger.

he didn't inherit a good team from Reese, but he has also done his best to completely fuck up a future rebuild by thinking they could still be competitive the last couple years. he handed out some very poor contracts and there's been no semblance of a plan for life beyond Eli. I'm not sure if Darnold was the pick last year, but you'd at least have a direction for the franchise now if he was. right now, where do they even go?

Baker isn't a wide receiver.

>it's not Eli's fault that he's shit and overpaid because someone else paid him
wow that is quite the damage control

You really think the ravens finish below the Bengals? I know we dont like Lamar but man cincy is a trainwreck waiting to happen

what would they have done?
not likely, theyre a very proud organization

Also Super Bowl losses

the chargers exposed lamar jackson badly. every team is gonna prep in a similar way and just go with speed backs to stop his meme run

Overinflated the footballs obv

*replaces Goof*

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I for one think MemeVay could make people think Bortles is elite

Not too often rookie qbs have great games in their first playoff appearance. Lets see what Lamar can do next season before we consider him finished.

Not unreasonable, since Goof was looking like a bust until McGay showed up.

looks like Bortles kino is back on the menu boys

How come it's way more common for second or third-string guys to become great head coaches than it is for starters?

>Mike Singletary was the middle linebacker for the 1980s Bears. Ron Rivera was his backup.
>Both became head coaches
>Singletary failed miserably while Rivera is now a top-tier coach

I'm sure there are a couple of others I'm forgetting. Bart Starr being complete shit as Packers head coach, Gary Kubiak being a better coach than Elway is a GM, etc.

Theres just as many duds. Look at Jason Garrett

dirty franchise. always has been

Remember last year when T.J. Watt drilled Cam Newton in the shoulder helmet-first (Effectively destroying what was already a bum shoulder) and no one outside of the Carolinas even entertained that he should have been flagged for it?

OBJ was the 12 overall pick not top 10 and he's also missed 16 games the last two years

More I think about the trade the more I like the Giants side of it. Seriously this draft is stacked at WR the Giants are gonna get some quality starters in the mid rounds

Punished Goof then goes to Pats and starts his redemption arc.

Wtf are the Rams doing signing Bortles? Fuck this team. Get someone good to improve this team and win an owl!

It's not, my opinion may be biased since I'm a Hawks fan, but it's not a TD

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The Jaguars beat the patriots. They need what’s in his brain.

They need a replacem....I mean a backup for superstar Goff

Not happening. Stop it.

This doesn’t work because most teams aren’t the Jets and change up their tactics from year to year

NFL star Haloti Ngata announces retirement in epic way on top of Mt. Kilimanjaro
>annoucing retirement in Africa

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Does Goof even fit the Patriots' system?

I know the Patriots' system is just 'dude screens lmao' but Goff is effectively just an arm attached to a headset

>arm
Baby arm maybe

So fellas when is Bortles gonna Nick Foles the L.A. Rams

>Seriously this draft is stacked at WR the Giants are gonna get some quality starters in the mid rounds

Nope

Never. Bortles didn’t even stopped playing football for a year and went to seminary.

Never. Foles is also gonna be forgotten because he’s actually trash.

nigga people still remember who jeff hostetler was, you think a SBMVP who did it against tom brady is going to get forgotten?

Literally yes.

The Rams will soon have rostered three of the top four picks in the 2014 NFL Draft:
2. OT Greg Robinson
3. QB Blake Bortles
4. WR Sammy Watkins

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have fun being wrong then

And they still lost 13-3

Literally no. He lives rent free in brady’s head. brady literally thinks of Foles while he fucks his wife

t. Butt flustered “Foles fan”
Lmao

i don't root for the giggles or foles. just saying that people are definitely going to remember him, he's a massive meme.

Damn this is sad. Have you considered seeing a therapist?

have you?

current OL continuity situation for 32 NFL teams

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The Pats system is Pick on what the other team sucks at.

Dead money leaders from 2018 through 2019

1. Giants- $76.9M
2. Bills- $75.9M
3. Cardinals- $62.5M
4. Dolphins- $55.6M
5. Broncos- $47M
6. Jaguars- $44.5M
7. Browns- $43.8M
8. 49ers- $40.3M
9. Ravens- $37.6M
10. Cowboys- $36.1M
NFL Avg- $31.1M

Over/Under Rams go back this year

So 2 busts

Have both of you considered stop arguing about nonsense and open a new thread?

t. brady dick rider

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got you

NEW HERE

He climbed it as part of Chris "man of the year" Long's Waterboys charity.

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Lions

>ravens
trip on old gay