Are these two the biggest culture vultures in contemporary pop?

Truth. Someone outside your culture doing your culture better isn’t racism, it’s human evolution.

yes

based user btfoing the two most overrated artists working today

This is my favorite shitpost on Yea Forums

Yes. He was originally a rock musician who did Bob Dylan covers IIRC.

i don't know which one i dislike more

>that image
youtube.com/watch?v=mikvj-BhtPE

What about worse?

Billie is the far bigger culprit.

Post Malone doesn't claim to have grown up poor in the hood or demand validation from the black community, he just makes shitty autotuned trap music for stoners and frat boys. Billie on the other hand is desperate to be viewed as black and treats blackness like it's a game for her.

How is Billie worse than any of these idiot mumble rappers?

Based

Her music is incredibly boring for one thing. Everything which makes her "interesting" is her presence on social media which has nothing to do with her music.

*presence on social media and music video visuals

Bad Guy is a cringe song and When the Party's Over is a lullaby. In fact 2/3rds of the songs on her album are lullabies.

Bigger question is: why do black artists keep working with these two?

Clout + money

>talented black artists
>21 Savage
>Denzel Curry

Imagine actually believing this

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How has nobody mentioned Drake? Whose last big hit he sang IN SPANISH. what happened to his tings?

Both of them are quite lyrical. Curry also has a god-tier voice.

Drake is half black so he gets a pass.

Im a fan of rap but this is just fucking cringe dude

lls

Kek, spaceghostpurrp talked about in one of his recent livestreams how denzel can't get any pussy so he fucks eilish in exchange for getting her clout
Also said his breath stinks of donkey shit

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>I sit back and read like Cat in the Hat
21 Savage, the cat with the MAC
21 Savage not Boyz N The Hood but I pull up on you, shoot your ass in the back

Damn... that be deep tho

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How are they cringe?

SGP also attacked Billie for stealing the whole Miami sound/aesthetic.

21 savage is absolute dogshit and denzel is an incel who can't make a good trap banger if his life depended on it

Post Malone isn't white, he's Jewish. Nice try though.

how short is post malone?

He's actually pretty tall, like 6'4 or 6'5 or something iirc

simp

you can be half black and be a culture vulture

BASED Florida Man the rapper

Hrs Irish and Italian. He doesn’t look Jewish at all.

They both have irritating voices. Curry’s timbre when he’s trying to sing sounds like ass.

spaceghostpurrp is washed up and salty as fuck for not getting as big as everyone who copied him. he barely gets respect in the 305

Yeah, I mean one of the big arguments the left makes about having diversity is that it is enriching. Well, it’s only enriching if anyone is free to be inspired by anything. Plus that attitude has the benefit of not being incredibly racist lol

He speaks truth m8.

I only see suburban whitoids defend curry

>expecting a seriously reply from shitposters

he’s not jewish but he has absurd connections so he might as well be

Denzel is hopsin tier

shut up, spook

Hrs a local legend. What are you talking about?

>Diversity is our strength
>Noooo not that way

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Are successful people beyond criticism?

>Are successful people beyond criticism?
No but your criticism is retarded hypocritical garbage which makes it even funnier that you're screeching at people more successful than you

Imagine your mom literally helping clean out the hood to make it safe for white hipsters, then claiming your hood as some organic homegirl.

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although I appreciate your trips, you're totally wrong. maybe 1/100 people in Miami know who he is, and out of that, another tenth of people have listened to him

imagine being unironically upset that neighborhoods are being made safer and more propserous

Billie Eilish doesn’t care about black people.

based, nobody should

>wh*te man wont clean up our hood
>noooo not thay way :((

bitch i already told u say it one mo gain u finna get yo wig split cuz pay homage knicca

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this is why people dislike melanin americans

stay in yo lane lil nigga letta playa play ya bizzle

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I literally cannot read your niglish, have you tried learning an actual language?

succ my nutz poindexter

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go be a nigger somewhere else

where u from?

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Well for one thing both of them keep working with white artists who steal their sound and culture for profit.

No shit.

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Post Malone is based, fuck off

T. Frat boy

ZUU and I Am > I Was are two of the best rap albums this year.

Wouldn't "culture vulture" imply that the culture is dead and rotting?

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#BuryAThread

I don't like either of them, but seethe more you stupid nigger

How could he not be?

INDUSTRY GARDEN

He also sacrificed X.

Post Malone doesn’t fake a blaccent.

Only black idpolers throw around the term “cracker” in their rhymes.

Imagine thinking this girl cares about her artistry, or black issues for that matter.

Whats wrong about Danzel? ZUU was amazing and versatile not only in the songs but the lyrics.

I agree but Taboo was much better.

Nice moving the goalposts.

Billie is fucking garbage, so yeah.

I'm willing to defend Post Malone, though. I saw him at one of those small Bud Light-sponsored shows he's done - his voice and stage presence were both really good.

youtube.com/watch?v=97fFYsMbVvE
youtube.com/watch?v=odj8Wy3jPe4
youtube.com/watch?v=s0hMu9FUjmk
youtube.com/watch?v=391sNDfyNJM
>these aren't "good"

kind of like how rappers call themselves rock stars and use black metal imagery to seem progressive and edgy

Based

The fight against gentrification isn't just about ensuring people can afford housing, but also the preservation of stigmatized cultures (including working-class culture) from destruction by the dominant bourgeois/white culture. It's about cultural autonomy.

neither do black people

youtube.com/watch?v=ugNlzXXfQP8
Purrp is too based. I don't believe he's human.

>the only culture niggers have is being poor and disgusting
kek

Never mind the fact that black music, black fashion, etc. all comes out of the ghetto.

Maggie "removing the sp*cs with my house fix" Baird

m.youtube.com/watch?v=rYT3PMhpV0k

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It's all part of the marketing.

They're garbage, 3rd rate """""bangers""""""
m.youtube.com/watch?v=MSKnzLUdqbQ

Imagine being ASAP "sissy pony" Rocky and stealing your latest song's title from a 1980 Kate Bush tune.
>inb4 billie is the zoomer kate

That face he makes at 5:19 is priceless.

Post makes me laugh because I know there's no way in hell he'd fuck a single non-white woman and the white men he'd really like to hang out with all hate his guts so he fucks around with blacks. But he made his place and maybe one day he'll become the rock icon he wants to be so bad.

Billie is just a plant designed to shill music to people who look exactly like her. However unlike Post, she most definitely fucks blacks.

Ironic really, blacks fuck with Post's music but he will not fuck them, whereas blacks in no way fuck with Billie's music, but will most definitely fuck her.

I was wondering if black people fuck with Billie. I went outside the venue when she and Denzel came to my city on their tour, and all I saw was a sea of white girls with maybe four black girls among them. All the white girls looked like clones of each other too.

>be poor little girl from a gang-ridden area with poor failed actor parents
>can somehow afford a Gucci suit and gold chains before your first album drops

denzel curry is probably the only trap artist that will go down in history as being actually good. he's gonna be the deftones of trap

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Denzel and 21 are both good STORYTELLERS in their lyrics. That alone makes them talented.

Why do I, a white woman in my late 20s, feel strongly attracted to Purrp?

He's a musical genius with a beautiful body and above average face. Something about that makes me seriously wet.

How do I meet him IRL and fuck him?

We don’t because her music isn’t made for us. She’s literally Selena Gomez just edgier.

Looking at the chat, you think Yams got sacrificed?

dilate

What do you mean by "sacrificed"?

>SÖY BOY

He literally means sacrificed. There is a common belief among rap fans that certain people get human sacrificed by others for more fame and wealth, or because they have or are going to reveal too many secrets.

Would it have anything to do with Afro-Caribbean religion, given that the only rappers I've heard throwing that term around are all from Florida and of Caribbean heritage? (Purrp and Denzel are Bahamians, X was Jamaican, Kodak is Haitian, etc.)

Almost certainly.

Billie doesn’t make trap music, she’s pop.

youtube.com/watch?v=GbjwfQG_N_Y
youtube.com/watch?v=P4z1O3miesI
Hear that distorted bass? She and her bro jacked that sound from Purrp.

Not when it's your culture.

x is a yardie? wtf

This is the worst shit I've ever heard

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Hoodrats have no clue.

Yes, his parents were both Jamaican immigrants.

Those are two of the better songs on her album too.

My 18yr old borderline retard sister loves them both so I'd guess yes

Wasn't X a blatino?

Meant for

He was supposedly black, Arab, Indian, and Italian.

How exactly do either of them “steal” black culture?

A white teenage gentrifier who was signed to a major label due to her brother's connections with no prior musical experience has no business doing trap music.

I don't think anything unfair is happening. They're very attractive locations geographically, and that's the terms when you're renting. Is there really more to say about it?

Where do Blacks live after the area gets gentrified anyway? They move down south, or what? If I was a black american I'd probably live choose to live in Texas.

Gentrification doesn't fix issues of poverty or race, it just moves these problems around.

That's a ridiculous statement. She can create any music she wants to. Trap, although it is bad enough that you'd be tempted to think so, wasn't created in a vacuum either.

If people are tired of experiencing racism, maybe pack away this fucking racist idea to start with.

It may not be "racist" per se but it's ridiculous. What the fuck does a girl from that kind of background know about living in the trap? It's all a game for her.

Can't fix what doesn't want to be fixed

No one chooses to be black or on the bottom of any racial hierarchy.

Bullshit, when she was 10 her parents were like 55 what do blacks in the "trap" know about that shit. Nobody is ever forced to sell drugs by the way.

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>No one chooses to be black

Yes but you can choose to be BLACKED

Can we take another moment to appreciate Purrp and his influence on modern music? Without him and his dark beats we wouldn't have these two clout-chasing mayo gushers (Post and Billie). Listen to this shit: Billie's brother WISHES he could make beats this insane.
youtube.com/watch?v=an06QPM6qGM

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Post malone is extremely talented. He just puts none of that talent into his music because he knows no effort white flavored pop trap is what will make him endless money

>her mom popped her out in her mid 40s
No wonder her face always looks deformed.

The beat he did for tracy was insane
m.youtube.com/watch?v=lZQVDEjuCiY

Pretty much. I can't hate him for it. If I found something extremely easy would make me millions at the expense of doing something I'm actually passionate about I'd choose the former too.

This video can't get any more based.

No, but there are tonnes of very succesful and well-respected black people. It's attainable.

The earliest stage where there is a problem is in school. They don't want to learn, and you're an outcast if you do. You're an outcast if you speak well, or "white"...

Start there. Don't start by telling them to conceive of themselves as oppressed victims, and it's the fault of white people. It will do literally nothing good, and it teaches everyone to see race before the person.

based

You can’t reduce these issues to “black immorality”.

>>No, but there are tonnes of very succesful and well-respected black people.

I dunno about that man, I mean if a black guy becomes successful it usually makes some kind of newspaper. I think Chris Rock said it best in one of his specials, he was one of the most famous black comedians in the world and lives in a nice part of town now and his neighbor is a dentist, not the best dentist in the world or anything just a regular one.

Curry is like if the weird theatre kid became a rapper. Isn’t he all into anime?

Yes, his net worth is an estimated 100 million usd. That's on the same scale as Dave Grohl.

No, but the entire approach of telling others to change for you is flawed. What I really believe in is be the best example you can. Then you can tell others how you try to live your life if they ask, and start a positive spiral from that.

You can't tell others how they need to change, it'll only make them resist it. On top of that changing is hard, and most people can't even do it for themselves... And if you also reveal that you primarily see their race before the human, then there's nothing else to talk about.

What do you think would solve the problems?

>You can't tell others how they need to change, it'll only make them resist it.
>proceed to tell black people they need to chance
Wew lad.

Post Malone is infinitely more talented than Billie. Love them or hate them his songs are catchy as hell, and unlike Billie he doesn't try to make them something that they're really aren't.

Billie is a try-hard who attempts to be trap, "harsh noise", and goth, but fails miserably at all three.

ok bro, disengaging then, take care

>"harsh noise"
You serious?

Bury a Friend is LITERALLY Merzbow.

>American
>culture

Americans sell their culture to the highest bidder. Black people held off the longest but when gangster rap blew up in the late 80s they decided white people money was just too tempting.

How? The beat is just a lo-fi version of Black Skinhead.

Raider Klan and all those mfers were anime kids

There's a dentist drill or some shit in the beat, that makes it "harsh noise".

I’m not exactly jealous here, it is what is, you’re born with what you’re born with, but just to play devils advocate, is it unreasonable to be disenchanted with someone who hasn’t really “earned” or “deserved” success?

And I don’t think it’s arbitrary to say Billie eilish didn’t earn or deserve her success. Now as for post Malone, that’s a bit different. I think he puts in a little more work than she does.

yes.

no hes 6'0. if he was 6'4-5 he would be towering over her

Billie is just a front for her brother, who's the true talent. Ocean Eyes blew up online due to her brother being in the industry and pimping the song to his management team, which in turn got Billie hooked up with a team of her own. It's nepotism on steroids.

Bro, In case you didn’t know, SpaceGhostPurrp is balding ass lame ass nigga who has bipolar disorder and daddy issues that has him shook so bad he actively managed to bury himself and his career despite being an awesome producer.

Of course that nigga is mad one of his old underlings/close friends who he rocked with when no one was famous blew up and got like BIG big and he’s just kinda in the background being a schiz who just pisses off his fans. But Denzel has also just always been a better rapper than Purrp. Purrp has to stick to the beats

Purrp also has aspergers and most likely psychosis.

Just watch his livestream and you'll see how incoherent he is:

Bruh Purrp literally just copypastad the Memphis style???

He did not contribute anything new to these genres
That’s not his sound lmao he didn’t influence shit

He's still a musical genius despite being a rambling sperge.

>musical genius
That’s a giant stretch dude, and you know that.

A musical genius is somebody like Frank Zappa, John McLaughlin, Paul McCartney, Prince, Mozart, David Bowie, etc...

Purrp literally listened to Memphis rap, mainly 3 6 and TW3, said hey i like that, I’m gonna make music that sounds like that, learned how to operate a midi keyboard, learned how to operate FL/ableton, and made memphis style beats.

Anyone can do that. That’s why there’s a hundred million niggas internationally making beats just like his. Purrp was just in the right place at the right time.

But, he is a good beat maker and music producer. No more, no less.

White-knighting an industry plant who can barely sing is cringe.
old.reddit.com/r/billieeilish/comments/aox5a7/denzel_curry_goes_off_about_his_fans_complaining/

Yikes.

Bro he's prob fucking her, I don't blame him in that case

Why though? He can get any girl he wants.

>yeah lemme come clean your house

>oh yeah btw that cost you $2,500,000
>what you can't afford that? guess you gotta move out then, but your house is so clean though!

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>industry plant only cares about the money
At least she's being honest?

post malone had one of the most organically viral soundcloud tracks the kickstarted his career. now explain how he is a plant, and explain how he could possibly be more of a plant than billie

He's like Baby Goth in that he started off as a rock singer and was re-made into a mumble rapper.

Her SJW fans know about this right?

well billie started as a lorde/lana clone and was turned into an edgy miami/sound clound pop girl

Yeah and no one denies she's a plant except for Soitano and the shills paid to promote her.

That’s just sad.

Highland Park was a gang-infested shithole until like 2012.

posty is 6'2

Bullshit. It was already heavily gentrified by 2009. Before the housing crash it was a huge center of house-flipping which is what Billie's mother participated in.

24:14
Wow.

prove that he had industry backing when he was making dylan covers on youtube lmfao.

Protip: anyone with a "viral" smash is almost certainly signed to a label.

Look at Blueface if you want a more recent example: three songs on WSHH which probably cost him thousands of dollars.

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Post Malone definitely is. Billie made some fairly good music at first (e.g. Lovely and &burn) but now she's turning into Post Malone 2.0.
Her brother Finneas has made some real good songs though, like Let's Fall in Love for the Night.

Bro....

Billie peaked with Ocean Eyes.

Her entire EP was mediocre, just background music to be played inside every hipster fashion joint or cafe.

Her features with Khalid and Denzel were good but she was drowned out both times by her male partners.

Her album was decent but I wouldn't say there was anything on there which particularly stood out. I don't get why all the critics were upholding it as some kind of game changer.

Dude wtf

This. She's good, but not amazing, and definitely not nearly worthy of the hype she's getting. I don't think she's a plant though - what I really think is happening is that we're just so fucking starved for *anything* new that is at least 'pretty good' and an 'edgy' 180 from Taylor Swift or whatever, and she came at the right time. Everyone will love her for this album, the next one will be huge, and then by her 3rd albumw we'll be 'done' with her and toss her in the garbage, the same way we do with every other female pop star. We decided we were done with Taylor Swift last album, Katy Perry before her, and mark my words we're about to be done with Ariana next. This is just how we treat chicks in the pop culture.

Jimmy Neutron exposed you sick bastard

Any proof that post malone has any talent? I don't even know who he is, but I'd like to see where why do you think that way of him.

Of course, they're both largely plants, especially Billie

Nah I used to assume the same thing but I actually heard some Post Malone this weekend and I could break down specifically why it's bad, my singer girlfriend moreso from a vocal standpoint.

I mean that’s women in general. Once you’re over 30 who cares

ok, jamal

hey cletus what's good

I think she is a plant (no one gets signed to a major label so young with hardly any music to their name who isn't one), but I don't think it's her fault. The labels were searching for new Lordes around that time so every teenage girl with a similar voice and sound was signed. I do agree she's going to be old hat in a year or two. Look at Halsey and how she keeps putting out music but no one really cares. Billie's replacement has already been signed and will start the planting process by the end of the year.

I think she's going to burn out very soon. Watch her recent performances and compare them to her performances 2-3 years ago and you can tell her voice isn't as crisp as it once was, probably from exhaustion or just piss poor technique.

>Billie on the other hand is desperate to be viewed as black and treats blackness like it's a game for her.
true though, super cringey

Everyone wants to be black until it's time to actually be black.

There's a reason why Billie's feature was left uncredited on the song she did with Denzel and J.I.D.

How? Post Malone’s culture is bro culture. Billie’s culture is Hot Topic culture. What are they appropriating?

You're right about Post, but Billie pretends to be black

Go away zoom zoom

To be fair, that was due to the label not allowing her name to be on the song, but I understand where you’re coming from. Billie doesn’t speak out about black issues or make political music or show she’s an ally of the black community in any way, which is what makes her culture vulturing even worse.

I second this.

Billie got big ol' tibbies

He watched DBZ and reads OPM, he thinks he's into anime

Yikes

trash