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So is the Luminous Engine the Square's Crystal Tools engine of this generation?
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So is the Luminous Engine the Square's Crystal Tools engine of this generation?
>girls game
Sorry I have balls.
What is this sissy shit?
>tech demo for gpu well beyond next gen consoles hardware
What even is the point, it doesn't even look very good either.
gay
I'm glad they threw all the retards into their own corner so the rest of the devs can make games on engines that work again
Luminous is actually a good and powerful engine unlike crystal tools
Are you blind? It's a real time path tracing tech demo on consumer hardware that is far beyond anything possible or seen before on consoles or any released game
the shadows alone are a full generation ahead of what's possible on current gen
Wasn't this the studio that was lead by Tabata before he left
I wonder what happened
Its a tech demo showcasing real time path tracing through raytracing, something no other engine has ever shown at this high a level and one of the few engines even doing path tracing, its not a game its about the advanced tech being used which blows anything weve seen this gen out of the water
Calm down, kid.
They made a tech demo for advanced graphics? Like they did in 2015 and 2012? What are you insinuating? This tech demo isn't their game, its a tech showcase for raytracing and pathtracing in realtime
they're still making the game tabata started in 2018 before he handed it over to them and left to start his own company
Don't you have some KH fanfic shit to shill?
that looks fucking disgusting.
she is fugly as fuck
>moles all over the face as if she is a lepper
>crooked kike nose
face scans were a mistake. realism killed the beauty of video games
fuck off nathan
That isn't a face scan its hand keyframed and it looks far beyond anything possible on current gen, you're blind and stupid and tech illiterate
>posting a literal who from 50 billion years ago that pretends that has no relevance to graphics technology advancing
This is retarded, the old masters strived for realism and perfecting it by studying from real life itself, only after achieving realism should you then stylize
Looks like girly gay shit. And Control already has ray tracing nonsense.
>muh appeal to old elderly man said some dumb shit once
It doesn't have path tracing nor anywhere this highly implemented, you don't know what raytracing is
>everyone thinking the demo is the same game being talked about in the OP
Yea Forums is retarded
Yeah no, it does. This is just more of the same shit.
This is a really impressive tech demo for the path tracing alone, something that console kiddies won't understand the significance behind.
fucking disgusting
>m-muh realism
do these goblins think real people have moles and hair fucking everywhere
have you ever seen a real person with that many fucking moles
No it doesn't, Control doesn't use path tracing it just uses a rudimentary ray tracing application
This is full path traced ray tracing, it's far beyond anything that even has raytracing at the moment is able to produce.
This. It's goriilians of dollars in tech to make something ugly.
Looks like garbage anime is superior to women at least model the character after 9 yo then it might look sexy.
Why are you samefagging?
Except XV runs better and looks better than any of SEs UE4 games does so are you saying the other devs using UE4 are incompetent?
that pic didnt age well at all.
You've clearly never seen a person before.
Are you fucking retarded? The characters facial features arent the point of the tech demo, the lighting with real time path traced ray tracing and real time full dynamic GI with real time PBR is what makes it impressive
Holy fuck you retards dont know anything about tech
>OH LOOK ANOTHER NVIDIA GIMMICK!!!!
so much anal prolapse from soulless MUH REALISM graphics whores. amazing.
Not feeling it. Looks alright but the animation is just not there yet.
You can tell they worked hard on this though.
If people can't see the difference or be impressed by it, then it really doesn't matter.
Notice how we aren't having a discussion of 'what's the point nigger' when we went from 1080p to 4K. The difference in quality was apparent. If you can't sell raytracing the same way, it just isn't a success, and faked cube mapping + SSR + non-raytraced GI is honestly 'good enough'.
Man this sure looks bad. Just as bad as Final Fantasy XV which the worst.
Final Fantasy XV is a bad game.
I agree wholeheartedly. Final Fantasy XV is so bad. This tech demo is the worst.
Yes indeed. I guess it is decided then. The tech demo is bad and Final Fantasy XV is bad.
We're reaching pre-rendered cgi level visuals in real time now without faking but through realistic lighting physics
this is a huge step yet the console kiddies will just sperg "omg freckles and moles"
They already did a tech demo about dx12, about GI, etc. It's just PR bullshit.
Ray Tracing is the biggest gimmick : barely no one sees the difference and it costs half of your fps.
>human face has imperfections
>virgins spaz out
Yep, I'm on Yea Forums
Nathan really is samefagging this thread trying to shitpost against tech he doesn't understand because its a huge leap that the devs who made xv have done, while kh3 devs are still eating with their ps3 tier tech
>think he has balls
>but refuse to see as much girls as possible in his entertainment.
I have bad news for you, tranny.
Hey guys, don't you think Kingdom Hearts III looks way better than this and of course Final Fantasy XV?
They can make the character model look like anything, that isn't the point of the demo you idiot, the realistic path traced lighting is
its a huge step up even from their previous tech demo
The IP count didnt increase from any of those posts being made, why are you samefagging?
Eh to be fair the animation isn’t the focus.
You’re not wrong though.
path tracing isn't a gimmick, its what is used in VFX and CGI production to create realistic looking CG, now we have GPUs poweful enough to do that in real time, something only previously possible in pre-rendered CGI that would take multiple minutes if not hours just to render a single frame even with render farms
UNLIMITED DETAIL
Subhuman console kiddies arent human
1080p to 4k is resolution, not lighting implementation you dumb fuck.
Nathan samefagging again
Another tech illiterate kiddie
No, XV is the best looking game SE Japan have made, KH3 is among the worst.
This isn't voxels you retarded console spazz
BARRY IS IN THE HOUSE!!!!
God damn it you special little boy.
I think some of you need to stop freaking out for a sec.
She's clearly not that bad, but yes, nip devs in particular seems to have fell for the photogrammetry meme but this doesn't look like it is at all. It's just a tech demo anyway and Nvidia probably paid for it. Their CGI demos could be even more realistic but this is the kind of characters Square's CGI studio came up with anyway, because creatively speaking they still prefer heavy stylization. and it's much better despite the huge gap in RT graphics VS prerendered.
This looked ugly. I bet Nomura could have used the engine to make something not ugly.
lol square enix are ue4 chads now thanks to the disaster that was ffxv
So SE is siphoning budget away from XIV again for this engine?
haha of course not, all the money is going straight to final fantasy 7
t. nathan on suicide watch
look at nathan sperg because he's tech illiterate
No? Luminous Productions is their own studio now with their own funding, they have nothing to do with 3rd Dev Division that makes FF14 or 1st dev division that makes FF7R, also the FFXV mobile game makes more money than ff14, ff11 and dq10 combined
This isn't console either you fucking spazz.
Want to see Voxels on console tho?
Pic related.
Okay, but are they also making games that are fun? I don't really care for a light simulator.
I didn't say anything about console or not you retarded faggot, I said this has nothing to do with voxels
It's a tech demo you fucking idiot. Every gen there is a tech demo made to showcase the tech that will be used in the coming gen, use some basic fucking common sense and critical thinking.
Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest have attractive women.
Is this suppose to look impressive?
I know it's a tech demo, silly. I'm asking if they're making fun games to go with that tech.
Fancy graphics are always nice, but unless there is some revolutionary breakthrough that vastly reduces the workload for creating realistic-looking assets, there really isn’t too much to be excited about no matter how advanced the Luminous is.
You forgot Graphics don't make the game fun to play.
And this tech demo isn't their new game, are you fucking retarded?
Yes it inherently is because of full path traced ray tracing in real time alone
Right. I just want devs to have as little work put into graphics as possible so that they can put their focus on what matters which are gameplay and mechanics.
Yes they have been making a new AAA IP for next gen for about a year now
This is about advanced graphics running on the high end
this is not about low current gen console fag shit
next gen consoles will be ray tracing compatible and more PC games will make use of it as the tech becomes more standard, that's how tech advancement works, you have to start at high level before going to low level
They are they have a new AAA IP in development that will be revealed in the future and is confirmed to be an RPG at the very least
an "RPG"
You don't know how games are made so stop posting
graphics devs or focus doesnt come in exchange of "mechanics" or "gameplay", what kind of fucking idiot are you? that's like saying putting in dyamic music comes at the expense of image resolution
they are non sequitur
looks like shit
Yes an RPG
No it doesn't it looks highly impressive with its lighting
read your own post again you fucking retard >This isn't voxels you retarded console spazz
Yeah this THREAD is not about voxels yet the dumb fuck posted a voxel image hence why I said this, as in this Luminous tech demo isn't voxels, you fucking illiterate retard.
>you retarded console spazz
>I didn't say anything about console or not you retarded faggot
k
>dragon quest
>big
Huh?
>another "tech" demo showing off features that will rarely if ever be used to their full extent
Why bother when devs are just going to refuse to even go that far m8
Holy fuck you're Illiterate
ray tracing is the next thing 9th gen will capitalize on
its why rtx cards have it and why ps5, xb scarlett will have ray tracing support too
the devs who care about tech will use it which applies to any advanced tech introduced through the gens
so this is what tabata was working on
Most people can't tell the difference between 'faked' raytracing techniques vs. the real thing.
Again, re-read it again. SSR + GI is 'good enough' for most people and don't cost +200fps. Until your raytracing meme hardware can do it at near to zero cost, it will forever be a meme.
Seethe harder.
I am the illiterate one? You called someone a console spazz and then you said that you didn't say anything about consoles.
This is some grade-a denial. I bet you are a Luminous dev who is shilling this piece of shit game that no one will ever give a shit about. The ambition is to make a AAA game like Final Fantasy but in reality, you don't even have the funding for sucking your own dick.
It's like you people have never seen a new tech before.
Of course it'll be badly implemented, of course it's not optimized, of course it's only for the high end. That's literally what every single new tech goes through.
Bloom, Ambient Occlusion, HDR light adaptation, Depth of field, bump/normal maps, shadows, motion blur, physics... All of these techs killed your framerate and were incredibly poorly implemented when they were first introduced. Look at any gen 7 game to see how shit those effects were back in the day. Now look at them in modern games.
Gen 9 will have a lot of ray tracing effects added to games and gen 10 will be almost entirely ray traced shadows, lighting and reflections.
Why western devs so obsessed over exaggerated ugly shit?
This isn't really meant for gamers. It's to help recruit employees.
the ufkc id this shit about?
Those people can be disregarded because they hold back advancement
Faked shit is not good enough, this real time path tracing is vastly superior in every facet while being more accurate
Your faked shit is the literal meme laughing stock by everyone in the tech industry, you faggot console kiddies are the reason this tech hadn't been introduced at this level much earlier
This is a tech demo not a game and it has nothing to do with tabata
the new AAA IP game they're making that we haven't seen yet is the game tabata left them, we have not seen it yet
Holy fuck you're illiterate, I said the THREAD had nothing to do with voxels and insulted them for being a console spazz
I never said anything about the THREAD being about console or not you dumb illiterate cunt
Go fucking kill yourself already nathan you retarded fuckstain faggot
Why are you still samefagging nathan?
only ugly shit is kh3
And we won't see for 2+ years since apparently they "...started creating it at the start of 2019".
>Aramaki: 2018 was a pretty hectic year for me. I was working on the DLC for FINAL FANTASY XV, and at the same time, we took the whole year to make solid preparations to kick off the new IP game title to be developed at Luminous Productions. And we’ve started creating that new title since the start of 2019.
luminous-productions.com
Reading through the "interview" it doesn't quite give you much of an impression on the game itself. It's mostly about the tech, which is probably the right focus since this is a recruitment pitch. But it does give us some insight into the guy who took over Tabata's position and is running LP now.
>Takeshi Aramaki: Joined Square Co., Ltd. (current Square Enix Co., Ltd.) in 2001. Aramaki was the lead programmer on both FINAL FANTASY XV and the game engine, Luminous Engine, and was in charge of the FINAL FANTASY XV WINDOWS EDITION as director. He was appointed as the studio head of Luminous Productions in December, 2018.
I guess there are worse people to put in charge of a studio than a 17 year SE veteran with a background in programming. This part worries me a bit though.
>As you mentioned earlier, you are open to hearing ideas from those who are still on their path of development – you value an open and frank atmosphere like that.
>Aramaki: Yes, I don’t consider myself much of an ideas man myself, so while setting forth with our vision as a company, I also want to bring out the ideas that each artist has and make sure they lead to a successful outcome.
>I imagine that receiving too many good ideas adds to your already busy life?
>Aramaki: No, it’s the opposite. I’m actually happier because I can just sit back and relax while they come up with good ideas (laughs).
It started pre production in 2018 and full scale development in 2019, and it hasnt even been revealed yet and next gen platforms havnt even been announced yet, so why is this a problem?
They haven't said much about the game because they haven't revealed it yet, all we know is that it's a AAA new IP and is an RPG. Terada is likely the one directing their game itself while Aramaki is studio head, even on XV PC edition he said he was director of that and on main game was in charge of 80 programmers so his field is on the tech side, while the artists and game designers and planners from XV like Nakazawa and Terada and Honjo and Nakaaki and so on are in the higher creative positions now.
Hooray. I love it when programmers and VFX artists start directing my narrative driven media.
He doesn't say he's in charge of narrative or even the director of the game, he's studio head and literally says all devs are free to submit their own ideas which is exactly what Sakaguchi did.
Moles are disgusting af
>enitre trailer is a girl putting on makeup
nice "game".
Lol
you are one
Stop projecting, nigger
It's a tech demo are you fucking retarded
the video in the OP is not a game and never was stated to be one, its a tech demo about path traced ray tracing, the lighting and shadows and SSS, not about what the girl is doing or what her design is.
says the mole
see These are both your posts by your own claim.
Kill urself
good physics and AI >>>>> graffix
God, I'm tired of how shit this industry has gotten with time.
shill
no way! Early cutting edge technology requires a powerful computer? What a scoop