DOOM Lore 4 Fags

Lets try to straighten this shit out as people are still confusing Doomguy and Doomslayer as being 2 different people.


DOOM Summary and Theories for Faggots:

Innumerable Aeons ago, The time dysfunctional Hairball Multiverse that is Hell invades other universes, Seraphim/Nephilim (Earth Lore knows as Angels) intervene. Realms lost get absorbed by Hellscape, the rest expel demons + close portals from Hell with angels help. (Proof of Doomguy Earth's presence during war against Hell found in Doom 2016, medieval armors and weapons from around the Dark Ages/ Skyrim Easter Egg at Kadingir's Sanctum, most likely a darker demonic version of the Holy Crusades vs Hell portals)*

Nephilim/Seraphim form Argent D'Nur as a "Gate Keeper" universe to keep Hell at bay. The "Holy Order" of the Night Sentinels are formed with the
multiverse's champions (Blazkowics bloodline might be Night Sentinel reject sent back to Earth). Argent Wraiths are most likely a cadre of Nephilim Angels.

A Night Sentinel now known as the "Betrayer" bargained Argent D'Nur for son's resurrection (Son becomes "Icon of Sin")

Argent D'Nur falls, Hell runs rampant where/when-ever. Mars took the brunt of our normal-verse timeline**, sacrificing the Martian population to create Soul Cube for their "Champion" to defeat Hell. (Doom 3 Lore)

Blast forward a bit, Wolfenstein: The Spear of Destiny. Blazskowicz finds the spear of destiny, a hell portal opens and a Pre-cyberdemon comes through. BJ kills the pre-cyberdemon by cutting its arm and leg off with the spear of destiny.

Doom 1 + 2 + N64 = Doomguy's adventures, N64 = seals self in hell to fight for eternity. This means all Doom .WADS are now canon as Doomguy rips and tears in every reality Hell contains.

Doomguy kills the Titan (A gigantic Shadows of Colossus/ God of War boss sized super demon) WITHOUT SUPERPOWERS.

Seraphim take notice and grant him super powers turning him to Doomslayer lite.

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The Wretch (probably Hell's version of Hephaestus, god of smithing OR Hell's way of naming the Night Sentinel Betrayer) gives Doomguy his super armor.

DoomguyKillsEverythingForEver.WAD, Earning his reputation as DoomSlayer

Hell no longer could handle his constant eternity of onslaught so they entomb his angry ass under a literal mountain sized pile of rubble that was a hellish cathedral.

Doom 2016 is where we are now. DoomSlayer was brought into a neighboring multiverse of his reality, accept it's highly sophisticated and has a techno-Asperger robot CEO holding UAC by the balls.

After Note Theories:

>This does not mean that the demons invaded during the Holy Crusade eras in the multiverse. This means that our universe was invaded during our Dark Ages, other multiverses were possibly invaded during their Bronze/Iron/Powder ages, Industrial ages, Silicon ages, Space ages, etc as Hell has no definite form of timeline, it's just a chaotic mess. This would explain the unlimited amounts of demons in Hell just being generated out of thin air with no origin point in Hell. Plus it could explain who was Mars's "Champion" who wielded that Soul Cube :o

>*It is possible that the Blazkowicz bloodline are descendents to one of the ancient Holy Crusaders (Maybe the mage from the intro video of Return to Castle Wolfenstein vs Heinrich) that fought with the Angels against the demons. This would explain why Night Sentinels look like technopunk Knights Templar and the Blazkowicz bad-assery.

>**Doom 3 DoomMarines ("The Corporal" and Expansion pack "The Combat Engineer") are not Doomguy and are possibly a part of a neighboring multiverse to Doomguys.**

>Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil: The Combat Engineer Doom marine is now the Doom Hunter. Even though he "died" during the boss fight in Hell against Betruger he was pretty fucked up and tainted by the Heart of Hell he was carrying. Plus having the voice at the end saying "Welcome Home" directly after he died is most possibly Hell's joke of trapping his ass in Hell.

>The Angels are polar opposites of demons, instead of chaos the angels will want total control and order, they'll want a hardcore interdimensional Theocracy. They'll want everything to be built in their name and to be worshipped as gods like before, DoomSlayer vouches for humanity's independence only so he'll probably wreak havoc against Heaven like he did in Hell (Though not as severely) to get the Angels to back off. Just a theory.

>64
not canon

Id hasn't officially stated that Doom 64 was or wasn't canon. It's still debated but Id did say that Doomslayer is Doomguy from the first 2 Dooms and the only info we get to explain how he was in hell for a long time before Doom 2016 is explained in Doom 64.

Oh no, not this again...
Look, im not going to read any of your shit, because heres the fact of the situation. As it stands, the og Doomguy and the Doomslayer are NOT the same character. There is literally no evidence to support the theory that theyre the same one. Theres none in the games, and no confirmation from any official source at all. A fucking item in Quake Legends also doesnt confirm shit.
So if you believe that the og Doomguy is the Doomslayer, then that is exactly that, just what you believe. Your literal headcanon is not Doom canon, and you'd do best to wait until Doom Eternal launches to see whats up, before you declare your fanfic as fact.

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>I didn't read doom lore but i know i'm right.

>hugo martin's fanfiction
kill yourselves

>The thing written internally at id software itself isn't canon
Yeah ok.

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Uh huh, kill yourself while you still have your dignity.

Or better yet go tell Id that they're wrong.

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>Don't read
>Still post
That's not how it works, user.

>With a different background
So he is an AU version of the original?

It's baffling to me that people played Doom 2016 and think that Doomguy is also the Betrayer. I've seen people that read through the lore in its entirety AND made a YouTube video about it and are STILL wrong.

How different?

Does this mean that we'll ride on a steroid fed kangaroo?

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Knowing nu-gen writers, probably something retarded will be revealed in DOOM Eternal.

LOL RIP AND TEAR AMIRITE XD

>tfw HDoom.wad is now canon.

PornHub video Titled: " Doomguy fights in the Second Circle of Hell (Dante's Inferno Lust level) "

He's jewish now

He always was. He's William Blazkowicz the Third.

>the lore
Its just fanfic you moron. I clearly state that your headcanon is not Doom canon. Are you the OP? It doesnt matter. I went back and read your completely expected nonsensical story, and you or OP ended it with, "Just a theory", and yeah, no fucking shit.... Fucking understatement of the day right there.
Im assuming you mean the item in Quake Legends, yes? That game has no relation to Doom, its just cross promotion. It is not relevant to the lore of Doom.
This thing again, always the same shit with you niggers. Wtf is this anyways? Where does it even come from? Lets assume its not a dumb shop, and lets just take it at face value. Heres what they said:
>yes but no
Thats hardly the smoking gun your side needs to prove your case.

Oy vey

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>whatever i say is right, deal with it.
You're welcome to fuck off and come back with more proof than "Nuh-uh! You're wrong!"

>Yes but with a different background
so he's not the same person

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Now he had a twin sister that we never knew about.

>It doesnt matter. I went back and read your completely expected nonsensical story,
He didn't read it but still posted anyway.

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Twin sister?

emphasis on "had"

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I thought that was just a Commander Keen easter egg.

There's a reboot of Commander Keen for mobile games ser after the events of the modern Wolfenstein games starring twins, and after comparing BJ's family tree in the classic games with how it is in Nu-Wolf, many anons came to the conclusion that the boy of the pair is TNO!Doomguy.

Posting her would take the thread in a dark direction. Bethesda unveiled her at e3.

Thats not how it works, and thats not what's happening. I am not the one making wiild claims about Doom lore. You are the brainlets coming up with the wild claim, and you are the ones performing olympic level mental gymnastics to arrive at your predetermined conclusion.
Welp, unfortunately for you, I've taken into consideration your materisal, and guess what? None of it holds up to scrutiny. Your fanfic is not supported by the games, shit just doesnt add up. Get this through your collective heads, your headcanon is NOT Doom lore,
Yes, I said I wasnt going to read it at first. You really arent getting me here. OP's story was fake before I read it, and its still fake now after I read it.

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They're going to explain this shit in Doom Eternal anyway so we'll find out for sure soon enough

What the fuck happened?

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She's a small girl. That's enough for Yea Forums to fill with creepers the moment her image is visible in the smallest way.

ATTENTION: DoomSlayer and DoomGuy are indeed two (2) different people.

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You thought right, as youre probably a normal person. But if youre a fanfic kinda guy, you'd probably believe that the easter egg is immediate confirmation of whatever wild theory you want to come up with.

But can you tell us how it does not add up?

Imagine caring about the "lore" in a porno. They should've just had neat environmental details but that may be going over the "RIP AND TEAR" audience's head.

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Sure but it would get boring watching the same skit over and over again with no development at all.

Your timeline's off. Doomguy was there at Argent D'nur.

I agree that Doomguy and the Slayer are the same person, but there's something more at play here. Personally, I reckon it's time travel, since the Testaments mention the phrase 'and through time' - Doomguy went back in time to Argent D'nur to see if he could head off this demon invasion horseshit before it could even begin, but as a result accidentally changed history so that the Nazis won WW2 and he was never born, resulting in Wolfenstein TNO happening instead of Wolfenstein 3D.

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Awful post but some of it actually is just headcanon, like the spear of destiny stuff

Google Spear of Destiny Wolfenstein RPG.

Yes, but youre asking a lot, so I dont care too. OP posted a wall, and I dont want to go through all of that shit. Again, that is... This is not the first thread of this kind you know....
At the end of the day, your headcanon is just headcanon, and after I click 'post' without indulging you, it will still be headcanon. So believe if your fanfic with all the religious zeal that you want, but preferably stop being loud retards that claim to know whats true and whats not. Youre annoying.

>But can you tell us how it does not add up?

>Yes, but that's too hard to type one example though so i'm just going to dodge that question with more headcanon blabber.
Behold, a fag that does not contribute to threads with nothing but thread bumps and (you)'s.

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Well shit my bad, I thought it was talking about the actual game not the RPG
I still think this is a little much for a Doom game. Sure it's nice to have references and such but Doom is the last franchise that needs LoZ tier timeline autism

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What do you expect from a anime fag.

Can't believe we have DOOM 'lore' threads now. What a time to be alive.

What's even more unbelievable is people getting upset at DOOM 'lore'.

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It's one upset guy that shows up in every thread.

Lets do real contributions to the thread then. Your posts, or OP's (are you op?), fill in a lot of details not found within the games themselves, so where the hell do you come up with it? For example, the hell invasion that mustve taken place during 'our' dark ages as a way to explain why the Sentinals have the armor that look templary and swords? Where the fuck do you come up with that? Because as I've said, that shit is not in the games, nor is it explained anywhere at all! I wonder, where you pulled that theory out off?

I don't know what is worse
People believing that this headcanon is in any way shape of form a good story.
Or the people who actually want a story in a game that should and was mostly about killing demons with a flimsy excuse in vague blurbs and flavour text found nowhere in the game proper.

It's really just 'NuDoom lore' threads, and I don't see anything real interesting about it. I'm also not into the huge power fantasy trip it's aiming towards, either; just let me shoot demons, please.

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There are human remains with their shields, armor and swords scattered around Kadingir's Sanctum in DOOM 2016, in the level around the Skyrim "Arrow in the knee" easter egg and beyond that. That's proof that an organized human force was traveling in hell during that time period with the weapons of that time. The devs have said they based their armor design for the Night Sentinels with 15th and 16th century Gothic armors. Have you not played the game?

Gotta deal with it user, devs are going full steam ahead with adding lore into Doom. And with it, story telling cutscenes.

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My headcanon is that Doomguy is Christian.

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>same person
That shit was never confirmed anywhere. There are some obvious fanservice nods to the old games in some of the Codex entries, and the devs basically said
>Doom Slayer's had some experience fighting demons across space and time
and that's it. Retarded fanshitters started going
>OMG it's the original Doomguy!
>OMG literally every wad ever is canon!!1!
>LOL even H-doom is canon!1!!
Doesn't even make any sense. He was already an average joe schmoe guy from Earth, how come nobody recognizes him as the guy who already saved the world? Is it an alternate universe's Earth? Why did he go to Argent D'nur, thus breaking his vow to stay in Hell forever? Why isn't his PTSD from Doom 64 ever referenced? Why do the demons have complex motivations and a civilization and the capacity to turn traitor when they were only ever brainless mean monsters who enjoyed torturing people in the old games?

That is only proof that humans may have been in hell before. And thats nice, the devs said they based their designs on whatever, but did the devs say that hell invaded Earth during the dark ages? Which I think that aint even the 15th and 16th centuries. So did they? No, they didnt. So whats going on? Did you pull your details out of your ass to fill in some gaps? Yes, thats exactly whats going on here. I mean, if hell invaded Eart before, wtf does no one know about it at the time of 2016? Or Doom 1 and 2? Fucking Doom 3 if you want to apply your fanfic there.
But lets move on to the Doom 3 RoE marine turning into the Doom Hunter, the new enemy from Eternal right? He turned because of the corruption of the Heart of Hell? What fucking corruption? What the fuck are you talking about? Where did you pull this one out of?

this is possibly the worst analogy you could have used

>All this butthurt because of Doom fluff and headcanons.
>Pic related is the thing that kept my main attention.

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>average joe schmoe from earth
Are any blazkowicz average joe schmoes?

>No recognition for saving the world
It's an alternate universe Earth. The Doom 2016 UAC are not the same ones from Doomguy's old Earth.

The Doom Testament tablet in 2016 shows Doomslayer fighting with Night Sentinels, i honestly don't know if it's a prelude or a reference to a future time travel event in Doom Eternal.

Doomguy is referenced in the Martian Doom Tablets in Doom 3 holding the SoulCube.

>PTSD
Because weak fags get PTSD

>Why do the demons have complex motivations and a civilization and the capacity to turn traitor

Because they're literal barbarian tribes with a "stronger and bigger (Titan) or magically potent/intelligent (Daeg Grav/SpiderMastermind) = boss" hierarchy, there's info of this in the background info in the in-game encyclopedia.

The Wretch turned traitor when Doomslayer stumbled upon him and gave him his new armor. Says so in the Doomslayer testaments.

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>you know what quake needs?
>transformer-tier story and minor but unskippable cutscenes

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>He turned because of the corruption of the Heart of Hell? What fucking corruption? What the fuck are you talking about? Where did you pull this one out of?
youtube.com/watch?v=lRSvYser8JA
Oh no little timmy, it's just a beating heart filled with the soul sucking energies of hell. You'll be fine with prolonged exposure, it's not like sucking the souls of your dead workmates will affect anything.

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Arthur seems fairly average, and there are no stories of Robert. Perhaps their legends remain untold until another day.

>weak fags get PTSD
Like Doomguy?

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Why do you keep trying to shoot down the lore when you obviously haven't played the games? Are you craving attention like the typical anime weaboo?

He was simply acting like he had PTSD to coax demon spies to let their guard down.

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>puts away the artifact
>hands go back to normal
Yeah, im pretty sure the RoE marine will be fine, considering he didnt get vaporized when he grabbed it. Also, no source explained that the artifact was going to have a negative effect of the user. It was just explained that it could be use as a portal to hell from Earth created presumably by the demons.
Thats not the lore. What im shooting down is nothing more than your fanfic. Why dont you try explaining it better so no one can come in and poke holes in it?

precisely

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