Why are Japanese videogame soundtracks more memorable and better than western ones?

Not this faggot again.

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>not mentioning Silent Hill or MGS

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Make me queer
I was mostly talking about newer music. Old western music was and is better than japanese

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>Ys 8
Modern Falcom music is so underwhelming

>Old western music was and is better than japanese
Nop.

Because you're a weeb and will always be a weeb.
Western video game music is far more memorable to me than eastern stuff.
All the Witcher themes, Skyrim music, WoW music, all better than anything Japan has come out with.

Even porn games have better music than western games
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Halo

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Skyrim had music beyond the title screen?

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Name a single track without looking it up. You can't

DUDE WHY IS JAPAN DO GREAT COMPARED TO WESTERN. I have the urge to make another thread about how great Japan is compared to the west, and all anons would agree with me except one, who will receive tons of (You)

>WoW music
WoW is an exception, not the standard. WoW may have gone to shit but the music is still genuinely gorgeous.
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>forgetting silent hill
Shame on you. Based for posting a qtpie though.

seething

Bro.
Please, PLEASE hook me up with the full photo or a link to that shoot, i need it so i can burn this motherfucker everytime he makes this stupid ass thread

Souls music is boring and forgettable desu

Mick Gordon's stuff (nuDoom and Killer Instinct)'s memorable.
I'm still sad that they went for scene orchestra for ratchet and clank. PS2 entries are still GOAT osts to this day

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False

Fuck off with your YS already tasteless worm. It shit have shit music.

How?

This post is soulless.

Some are good.
The Neverhood.
Skullmonkeys.
Rayman.
Jazz Jackrabbit 2.
One Must Fall: 2097.
Cuphead.

Isn't that the Mexican model Yea Forums loves?

She actually went to Japan?

I will admit that Japan has a higher ratio of amazing music compared to the west. Hell, certain Japanese series have nearly perfect track records of musical excellence(Sonic, Donkey Kong, Ace Combat, etc).

It's not like western composers haven't made good stuff, though. Martin O'Donnell is the first one to come to mind but I've played several western games that have great music.

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Maybe. She actually looks Asian in this one, if it is her. Pic is too low res to tell

>create a scene, swelling orchestra or music that fits the genre
>to make you feel an emotion, to get you to imagine as if you were in the scene
Those don't sound substantially different to me. Unless you're suggesting waito piggus don't have imaginations.

Halo 1-3 has some of the best and most unique music composed since video games became mainstream. On a whole though, I do tend to agree. Western composers forget they're not making music for a movie sometimes I think

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Stormwind Theme, Song of Elune, The Banks of the Sansretour, A Nearly Peaceful Place, easy.
Post a song with more SOUL than this:
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I swear that's her head shopped on one of the Jap dancing girls I watch.

That googling took a while, huh?

She's in Japan pretty often so that could actually be her

not an argument

Ys 8's soundtrack is lame, have some kino instead
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This is the answer. It's the reason all western media from the past decade is garbage

Name them

Japanese masters fold soundwaves more times, thereby giving compositions more overall quality. And if you want a more serious answer, it's because of the Great Tao which moves us all (although some Zen teachers say it doesn't actually exist).

ys 8 shits all over that ost though, easily the worst ys soundtrack

though he did link the worst fucking ys8 track, fucking singa ear rape

Different philosophies when it comes to music, I guess? In the west, people tend to go for a more "orchestral ambience" which is more like meant to serve as a subtle accent to the world and the setting, while Japan takes a more bombastic approach, where the music is there to add to the situation to make it more memorable, while also being a completely fine piece of individual piece of music regardless of existing as part of the game.
There was a point in time when the west followed a similar philosophy to Japan, but I guess being able to use orchestras made them switch to a more movie-esque approach. As to which one is better, I can't really say. I do prefer japanese music.

>easily the worst ys soundtrack
That's Ys 8 though.

lack of melody and leitmotif.
This series of videos is about movies, but everything he says also applies for games:
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literal shit eater if you actually think that, especially with celceta's existing

Remembering names is part of a memorable soundtrack. The fact that you can't name any off the top of your head just shows that Western games have shit music. Now this is some real soul: youtu.be/OhlW2roqg7Y

It's because video game music is made for the video game, it just copies classic music, just like they do with movies. Basically all the problems with Hollywood are seeping into video games, slowly.

isn't made for the video game.

imo souls hasn't been that memorable since Demon's, barring a handful of tracks from each game

JRPG boss fight music gets me everytime.

Also they have opening, credit songs, like Neptunia, Atelier and Tales of.
Their VNs have great music too.
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>the river in a dry land
Ever since I heard that in P5, I just can't help but to sing along with it everytime the song is in my head.

Western games rarely even have music with vocals
At least the UBIsoft and Bethesda never does it for me like P5.

The guy you replied to wasn't me, who posted the tracks.
>The fact that you can't name any off the top of your head just shows that Western games have shit music
Lol what I literally posted the tracks off the top of my head. Also what you posted isn't bad, but it's a far cry from great. It's just lounge music.
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>Monster Hunter outsources their OST to some Hollywood studio for World
>It's boring soulless movie garbage
I just don't understand.
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>see Child of Light thumbnail
>it's not the battle theme
That's the closest thing to a Japanese grade song and you pick this shit.

While these aren't half bad, they're still lacking compared to these:
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I don't know why this is the case, but Japanese game music tends to have much stronger melodies than western game music, and a strong melody is one of the easiest ways to make a song memorable.

>That's the closest thing to a Japanese grade song
That's not a good thing.
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I wold say youre right if there was no Witcher 3

GONG

because people who like japanese games have lower standards in everything so of course theyll enjoy the shitty midi music witha generic orchestra soundfont that typically comes with a jrpg.

good composers in the west go on to different mediums
good composers in the east don't really go anywhere

Most of these are fairly old save for Cuphead, but yeah, Jazz Jackrabbit 2 is pretty hard to top in terms of soundtrack.

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Japanese music on average sounds more melodic which is what I pick up on at least. Eastern game devs may have more freedom, not that I would know. Western dev are normally represented by aaa games, which just do things that worked before and don't try any "risks".

I can count on one hand the western game tracks I can remember

This is OP's 6th yellow fever thread in the last two hours

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Probably because you mainly play weeb games.
I'm the same way with weeb tracks. I can name Traverse Town and Simple and Clean and that's pretty much it. Maybe the Super Mario theme and some Mario Kart songs like Rainbow Road.

Who is that picture? And who are you talking about

I play as many western games as jap ones. I haven't even owned a console since the ps2.

because you are a weeb
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>wow music
>literally steam engine and animal forest noises with occasional brass swell

mein neger

Tracks from any of the Blizzard franchises alone would exceed one hand, so you're probably playing the wrong games.

uh huh
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Halo 1-3 had some great stuff.

I can hear this song almost at will in my head though, same with much of the Oblivion OST.
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>terran theme from starcraft
>tristram theme from diablo
>stickerbrush symphony from donkey kong
>main theme from deus ex
>a couple town themes from heroes of might and magic
ok I lied I need both hands. jap games still have way more memorable music.

>Yea Forumstards replying in an obsessive shitpost thread
when will Yea Forums stop taking the bait

Because JP/KR/CH players actually listen to the music with headphones and get into it. Western gamers just mute the sound or have their own music playing in the background.

It's true. Look at the rym list for top Vidya music.

Most of it is jap stuff.

Sometimes there is western much not that much and probably half the good stuff is from Jasper kyd alone

westernfag love their hip hop music and whatever else is popular.

Show me one western game with original music.

No simcity, the sims, dustforce, pre dota2 valve, or any of the rareware games.

Are you westbros even trying?

>labrat
I used to play this game splitscreen off my laptop with friends.

Tons have been posted in the thread already.

Spyro has some fire ass beats

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It's the girl in the OP. OPs mexican waifu who he repeatedly makes threads featuring while talking about Japan.

She's one of these girls who does the extreme photoshop makeover thing to make herself look like a doll.

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Wrong again, weebs.

>all this western cope
Sometimes these threads die with a few posts but this time it struck a nerve more than usual.

Why did I shitpost here again?
I guess it was the weather

And I bet they don't even come close to something like Ridge Racer Type 4 OST, Jet Set Radio OST, Street Fighter III Third Strike OST, Guilty Gear Accent Core/Xrd Rev 2 OST, etc. For every 25 japanese games with a good OST you might get 1 from a western company.

The last good OST from a western dev I can think of was fucking Mirror's Edge 1. But the next game had a shitty OST.

who are you quoting?

Everyone in Japan strives to be like koji kondo while everyone in the West strives to be Hans Zimmer

This is it my guy

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nuPrey has a killer OST
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It can't be a raid if we're native to Yea Forums. Go back to >>>plebbit

>Donkey Kong
Literally every DKC soundtrack has been done by people who aren't Japs

Returns had JP composers

Because western "composers" gobble up the 12-tone meme without any thought to its origins or purpose, while based Japanese composers abandoned that idea ages ago in favor of more sensible composition.
As a result western music is often dissonant and unpleasant literally just for the sake of it, while Japanese music is more melodic and classical. And this extends outside the realm of video games and into virtually all types of music composed between the two regions. There's a reason why J-pop is so much more tolerable than western pop music.

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Let's see what Western soundtracks I have in my OST folder.
>American McGee's Alice and Madness Returns
>The Binding of Isaac
>Borderlands 1/2
>Half-Life collection and Portal 1/2
>Little Inferno and World of Goo
>Machinarium

The list of Japanese soundtracks would be too big to contain in 1 post, but even 1 long-running series like Ace Combat, Guilty Gear or Zelda is enough to dwarf all of the soundtracks above combined.

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anything mick gordon has done so far is pretty nice

I agree with you but Ace combat and Zelda have shit music.

original DOOM

Undertale
Any game with Jake Kaufman on music (Shovel Knight, the Shantae Series, Mighty Switch Force, etc.)
Cuphead
Skullgirls
Furi
Hotline Miami
Nuclear Throne
DOOM
Killer Instinct (2013)
TF2
Katana Zero

I will never understand why you guys keep pushing this whole East vs. West thing. How are you missing these games if you like vidya?

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This is the only way we ever talk about vidya music my man

>almost entirely indie games

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>TES music
>Forgettable
Neck yourself, weeb.

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>a few indie games vs. the entire pantheon of japanese composers
Also funny to note that most of those games take substantial influence from the Japanese in more ways than one, including music. Undertale's OST is literally just Fox aping JRPG music.
Also weird that you didn't list David Wise, Grant Kirkhope, the Follins or any other notable western composers.

>Follins
well at least somebody finally said it

...And? What's that got to do with anything? AAA western games are mostly scored like movies, of course they don't have memorable soundtracks.

They asked for soundtracks, so I gave soundtracks. I don't usually think in terms of Composers because there are only like four I really like
>Mick Gordon
>Jake Kaufman
>Daisuke Ishiwatari
>Tim Follin
I forgot about the Follins, shit. How did I forget, I love the solstice theme

onions

Well you could've listed stuff like DKC:TF for soundtracks, but sure.
And no Wise? Got a beef with him?

It's a sword it's the lord fucking cool oh my god me gusta these potatoes are GOOOOOOOOD

No beef with wise, he's just not my favorite. I only really ever come back to Stickerbrush Symphony.

Call of duty mw2's ending theme is quite memorable. It's composed by Hans Zimmer after all.
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Max payne 3
Rdr2
Double dragon neon
Uncharted 4
TLOU

>Why are Japanese videogame soundtracks more memorable and better than western ones?
Post is obviously bait as you can disprove that with about two seconds of thinking.

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why is it so bland? didn't he compose the jack sparrow theme song?

Western games use classical rules of melody and rhythm
Japs use pop music

If it's that easy then you should just do it.

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I don't know shit about music theory but I always thought the way jrpgs use music themes was like a ennio morricone soundtrack. is that a pop style?

liberals are soulless
western industry is run by liberals

That almost doesn't count because rhythm games depend on music.

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Generic all.

Generic you.

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Ar Tonelico 1/2 > Might and Magic 6 > Outrun > Kirby > Acceleration of Suguri 2 > Atelier Ayesha > HellSinker > RefleX > Stronghold > Daggerfall > Rayforce > Clannad > Metroid > Air > Castlevania 3 > NiGHTS > Warcraft 2 > Sonic 3 > Mario Bros 3 > Secret of Mana > Mario and Luigi > Mega Turrican > SaGa Frontier > SMT > Ys 3 > Phantasy Star 4 > Unlimited SaGa > Little Busters > Xenogears > Mega Man 4 > Final Fantasy Legend 2 > Dragon Quest 3 > Heretic > Duke Nukem 2 > Guilty Gear X2 > Etrian Odyssey 3 > Deus Ex > Plok > Sailor Moon snes > Diablo 1 > Dark Souls > Golden Sun > Diablo 2 > Command & Conquer Tiberian Dawn > Sengoku Rance > Touhou

the real reason is because in the west, having vidyashit in your portfolio is a death sentence for any sort of standalone musician career, no record company will publish you, so most worthwhile musicians don't even bother delving into it in the first place, whereas in japan they're cool with that.

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This one is good but how often do we get this level of music?

bruh
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It's criminal.

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I don't know, elder scrolls osts are pretty good

>marty friedman played at a bravely default concert
based weeb

Does DKC count as Western or Eastern?

>that FFXIV
vomit inducing

Western devs, western composer.

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What the West made
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Not sure if I should put this one here
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Even if Liberals was abolish, there will be these “Anti-SJW” which are equally annoying as SJW

>this fag

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Stop posting that disgusting mexican/lebanese abomination.

WoW, some Witcher tracks, and Morrowind and Oblivion have decent tunes but they are the exceptions among western games. Only other devs that make really good music is Rockstar mainly in the case of Bully, old Blizzard, and the Fable games. There really aren't many other games from the west with truly great OSTs.

Japan on the other hand has hundreds of games with OSTs that are pretty damn easy to fall in love with. Either just because they're unique(eg Tenchu super weeb shit) or because they're truly great like a lot of the FF games.

Another note is that western games often license music which is pretty cool in some cases like in racing games(think those old quad racing games or Tony Hawk). If Japan does this it'll be like Jet Set Radio or No More Heroes which pretty much, again, kicks the shit out of the west.

Ace combat has good music, fuck you

Depends on what you like really. I could still hum the Quest for Glory theme for you or remember the lyrics to the Ballad of Freddy Pharkas. I haven't heard a Japanese song in years that I found memorable. But the Deus Ex theme, DKC, and Unreal all had music I still listen to. I don't trash Japanese music, I just haven't liked it for a while. Newer Deus Ex games are still good, Halo has some good stuff, hell I like the Uncharted theme. Different strokes.