Gamefreak must understand that they OWE us and that they MUST do what WE want and cater to OUR desires
You fucking lazy faggot fucks, you make the games for US. Chop chop, you fucking ching chong Japs. Stop being lazy and put all the fucking Pokemon in the game already WE are the fans and DEMAND respect
Who cares man, it's not happening and it's your own fault for shouting at them to add 200 Pokémon per Gen, just let it die, it needs to some time
Gavin Williams
I'm just not gonna buy the game, it looks shitty anyways.
Adrian Adams
I couldn't give a shit about the national dex I just want the game to look like its the highest grossing franchise of all time and to have fun gameplay innovations
Jason Myers
I wasn't going to buy this piece of shit game anyway but the National Dex is fucking hilarious. The sad thing is that certain Pokefags will still defend it.
Gavin Flores
>playing cringemon in the first place
Charles Johnson
I am kind of shocked that we had we got a next gen pokemon that culled a considerable portion of all pokemon, before we got a next gen pokemon that simply didn't add any new ones. When they went lazy I always thought that was the direction they'd go lazy in.
Jack Ross
Money doesn't correlate to good developers. GF won't magically become the best devs ever if you give them millions of dollars more
SM had no national dex and nobody cared. People are just mad because they can't transfer their boxes of shitmon to rot in the latest game
Gabriel Adams
Fuck the national dex I'm STILL fucking waiting for my new battle frontier. I've been boycotting this shit franchise since XY, get on my level you gamefreak apologists. I bet that you guys are still buying the game anyway
Caleb Bell
They targeted gamers.
Gamers.
We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.
We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.
Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.
Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.
Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us.
you retards are going to complain about this, then every single one of you will still buy the new Pokemon because you're spineless fucks.
Blake Gutierrez
>SM had no national dex and nobody cared You could still transfer old Pokemon though
Jack Howard
I'll buy the game because I don't give a shit about the cut Pokemon
I never got Bank on the 3DS games, and the franchise was in serious need to trim the fat
Isaac Peterson
I'm not too fussed about the Dex myself but didn't they say they're not bringing all the mons over so they could focus on the animations and shit? Cause from that the gameplay we saw it just seemed they ported both models and animations over from the 3DS era. I mean if they're doing that they could just port over all the older Pokemon anyway. Why are they so fucking lazy?
Dominic Fisher
>the franchise was in serious need to trim the fat no it wasn't
Kevin Nguyen
Last Pokemon game I bought was Sun and Moon. Had no desire to buy USUM or LGPE and Sword and Shield look dogshit.
>OMG NOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T CATCH YUNGOOS AND STANTLER IN GALAR??? NOOOO Yes it was. This franchise is full to the brim with shitmon
William Hernandez
>didn't they say they're not bringing all the mons over so they could focus on the animations and shit? That was the excuse. If they actually made a good looking game I wouldn't mind, but it's literally a 3DS game in higher res
Dominic Lewis
nigger
Luke Cooper
No, it wasn't. Your shit taste isn't indicative of everyone elses.
Alexander White
>Last Pokemon game I bought was Sun and Moon
Your part of the problem user. Weren't XY and ORAS proof that gamefreak stopped giving a shit at that point? Also, we had daily ">he hasn't hacked his 3DS yet. What's your excuse Yea Forums?" threads like 2 years ago.
Connor Collins
Literally don't care. I turn animations off on every 3D game because they take forever.
Who the fuck plays 3D Pokemon games with animations on?
Michael Thomas
> 1. Make a 24/7 Sticky general thread for Smash > 2. Ban all Smash discussion outside of the sticky, aside from when a new character is revealed > 3. Filter all buzzwords like “Tendie, Have Sex, Waifufag, Weeb, Dilate, Cope, Seething, Snoy” > 4. PermaBan all Wojaks & Pepes There now Yea Forums is fixed
Nathaniel Taylor
Yeah, those were my initial thoughts too.
Jack Turner
>I don't like some pokemon so just remove it Games should cater to one person only.
Eli Gomez
>Weren't XY and ORAS proof that gamefreak stopped giving a shit at that point? XY were questionable instalments but BW2 were so good that I had faith they'd turn it around. ORAS was when I became concerned and SuMu was when I gave up all hope for the franchise and moved on.
Levi Watson
>Snoy no
Carter Nguyen
>I like these shitmons so don't cut them! Goes both ways, fag
Anthony Morgan
No one cares about the fucking animations. People are only pissed off because gamefreak is using HIGH QUALITY animations as an excuse to defend the fact they erased half of the pokemon, despite the fact that the animations are the fucking same as the 3DS ones
Jacob Nelson
Console wars have no place on Yea Forums, besides you should be able to come up with better insults then garbage like “Snoy” anyway
I don't care about entitled babby posts but I do think the company that owns the largest grossing franchise in the fucking world could afford to make a game that has every pokemon in it, considering they've done that for the past 7 generations without issue. What was even the point of their futureproofed models that had a ridiculously high polycount for a 3DS game?
>delay the game by 1-2 years >hire more people to work on putting all the Pokemon into Sw/Sh
What's so hard about that? I understand it's a ton of work to add all these different character models and animations into the game, but for something as huge as Pokemon, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask overall. Don't force Game Freak to crunch to get this done for Christmas this year, but a 2020-2021 release sounds very reasonable to me
Nathaniel Roberts
>They finally make the right move to cut all the shitmon >They cut the good ones instead god fucking damn it
Anthony Richardson
hating shitmons to the point you want them cut out because they offend you is stupid
Adrian Turner
>They cut the good ones instead The vanilluxe line didn't get cut though (:
Daniel Ross
Yokai Watch is seriously boring now
Colton Wright
yes good mons such as wingull and bunnelby weren't cut
Angel Williams
Literally nobody knows who got cut yet. For all we know it could have been a selection of 200 shitmon nobody gives two fucks about.
Joseph Ramirez
Why are Pokéfags so entitled and insufferable? I mean that Yo-kai Watch 4 game only had 109 yōkai in it, and as far as I could tell, none of that franchise's manchildren fans threw the massive online bitchfit that Pokémon's are doing.
Everyone always talks about Sonic or Undertale or whatever when "worst video game fandom" discussions come up, but for my money it's the Poké dorks.
Josiah Nguyen
The fact that they have the whole merchandise train set up and delays would ruin everything. Also cutting Pokemon was inevitable. The problem is that these games still look like shit and run on the 3DS engine with all Pokemon models, animations and textures being virtually the same. This is made worse by the excuse for the cuts being "higher fidelity animations", "worldbuilding" and "balance", so all bullshit.
Aiden Anderson
absolutely yikes and cringe op. big corporations, especially those in charge of the largest media franchise in the history of humanity, are not entitled to our shekels without getting feedback about how poorly they're making their product. I bet you're a fag who doesn't return defective items or an incorrect order at a restaurant. wouldn't want to hurt their feelings by telling them they did something wrong now, would you
Jackson Peterson
> none of that franchise's manchildren fans threw the massive online bitchfit that Pokémon's are doing. Because they actually did something DIFFERENT with the game i.e. new gameplay mechanics, new animations, new models
Connor Cooper
Pokemon is the most profitable multi media franchise in the world. There's no excuse
Dominic Ortiz
>Yo-kai Watch 4 game only had 109 yōkai in it, and as far as I could tell, none of that franchise's manchildren fans threw the massive online bitchfit that Pokémon's are doing Yo-kai Watch never had a transfer function for yo-kai
Tyler Lee
Yokai didn't recycle 90% of the previous game's assets
Brayden Gutierrez
Yokai Watch also just in general kept all of the previous yokai between its sequels with a few scant exceptions.
Cooper Stewart
In some alternate timeline where Sun and Moon were delayed and released on the Switch, would that game look substantially better?
>Yokai didn't recycle 90% of the previous game's assets
No, they just recycle the same two designs over and over again. How lazy can they be not to have more in the game?
Levi Allen
>I mean that Yo-kai Watch 4 game only had 109 yōkai in it, and as far as I could tell, none of that franchise's manchildren fans threw the massive online bitchfit that Pokémon's are doing Yo-kai Watch never had a transfer function of creatures from your older games to your newer ones. This proves you didn't do your research, since Pokemon from RS and own could be transferred to newer games and they always had space for all the pokemon. That is the key thing people are angry about, since now some pokemon are outright unable to be transferred, forcing you to either keep them in Pokemon Home or the older games.
Thomas Richardson
I was...criticizing jewfreak though?
Colton Cruz
Fak you gaijin. You shourd be gratefur we ret you have Pokketu Monsuta game in first prace. You rucky we ret you have any game at arr. Firthy gaijin no deserve grorious Nihon game. Only bad American hamburger shooter game.
Alexander Edwards
might as well put the whole thread since you put critical posts with the fanboys
Wyatt Butler
>or the older games You can't even bring them back to the older games, meaning you have to wait until there's a game or a generation that has your pokemon. The real victim of this scenario are people who likes either legendarymons or obscuremons
John Williams
You do know that having all the Pokemon is a part of that, right?
William Taylor
>having all the Pokemon is a part of that Not exactly, there was no national dex in SM and USUM, but you could transfer all pokemon. Granted, no National Dex was a bummer, but being unable to transfer all pokemon is even worse.
Jack Martinez
>Pokemon Masters, a fucking mobile game, looks better than SnS wew lad
Last game I bought was Pearl and I enjoyed it way less than Emerald. Haven't bought one since then. Pirated Sun to give them another chance and it was a slog to get through so not even going to bother with them anymore.
Julian Wood
Bullshit. If the Pokemon were retconned in a cool way, say by time-travelling to the distant past when some breeds didn't exist (like Trubbish or Magnemite), or a cataclysmic event caused climate change in which certain Pokemon couldn't survive, then the Pokemon removal would make sense, and the game would benefit from a more interesting, more engaging story
Camden Long
replace ORAS with SM for when i became concerned and SM with LGPE for when i gave up hope and you'd be me
Easton Morris
I didn't even touch LGPE outside of playing it a friends house for 10 minutes. Seemed as bad a as I thought.
Wyatt Flores
i didnt either, just looking at it from the outside made me not want to go anywhere near it with how much stuff they changed and removed
Jaxon Allen
PD were greatly improved upon with platinum. With SSHG being one of the best Pokemon games afterwards.
Lucas Kelly
Nah.
Julian Williams
Me, I'm a avid supporter of #LetPokemonFinallyFuckingDie myself.
Grayson Hill
You silly little wank, that's a monkey paws' wish.
Leo Brown
I hope the bitching never stops. I want the games to come out and for the entire team to constantly be berated by fans. They keep getting lazier and lazier, people keep eating it up, and there has to be a point where people are like no fuck you. I doubt the national dex is coming ever to sword and shield, and I sadly have no idea if they'll ever bother in future gens again especially if the backlash just dies down. I do however want them to constantly be reminded of how shit, lazy, and incompetent they are day in and day out. I want Masuda to wake up and a see goddamned huge billboard outside of his house that calls him a lazy piece of shit hack.
There is not one fucking acceptable excuse for a 90 billion dollar franchise to be treated like this. Not animations, not balance, not "programming is hard ;-;" Not a single fucking tangible reason.
Matthew Ward
>a locked down game on a mobile device where you walk through a corridor and everything has one basic move and one big move looks better than an open world RPG on a mobile device
they'll never bring it back. which is fine by me, it means I can save an extra $40-60 each year now instead of wasting it on a franchise I haven't really loved in almost 15 years anyway.
Jacob Ward
GAMERS RISE UP! RISE UP AGAINST THE CONSUMIST MACHINE WE WILL NEVER LET IT HAPPEN THEY WONT GET US WE ARENT JUST ANOTHER COG IN THIS CORPORATION WE ARE GAMERS WE ARE CONSUMERS AND WE WILL RISE
Jace Smith
If you want a (You) you can just ask.
Eli Lewis
same I liked XY for what it was but I never thought it was anything special. ORAS made me far more upset than a simple remake ever should and SM was so goddamn boring I didn't even get a third of the way in. I try to keep tabs on the series to see if it's fixing its issues but every time I see a new game it just feels like everything's getting worse.
I don't think it's solely a laziness issue. Incompetence plays a major role too. the 3DS games ran like dogshit and apparently that was because the XY models were future-proofed for future systems (aka the switch) and now they can't be bothered to put them to use.
Julian Cook
Yeah. Or at least let Game Freak die. Imagine Pokemon made by a competent developer.
Jeremiah Stewart
Pokemon hasn't been good in nearly a decade Fuck gamers, I'm not rising up because they just now decided to be pissed about it
I'm so glad GF shit on all you outraged entitled children.
Matthew Roberts
I think what he meant was that statwise, some pokemon have been made completely obselete and thus they shouldn't be in the game. Especially when powercreep has been fucking the series in the ass since gen 4
Michael Taylor
maybe it's just because I'm a sonicfag but I've realized a long time ago people are willing to put up with a lot of bullshit in a franchise they like and/or grew up with, but sometimes it really does reach a breaking point and this is shaping up to be the sonic 06 of pokemon. Not in the sense that it's a technical disaster, but that its failure will be a wake-up call. they can't even rely on casuals that just want a pokemon game on the switch since those people probably already got let's go and are either satisfied with their kantowank and don't need more, or hated its changes so much they don't want to try again.
Blake Green
Kys false flagging tranny. What Gamefreak owes us is a good game, and Sword and Shield don't look good regardless of the National Dex. The lack of dex is just the last straw that finally woke up the countless bootlickers who have been tolerating Gamefreak's incompetence since XY.
Jason Gonzalez
>2019 >still buying Pokeshit Game Freak is a shit developer and your whining won't fix anything. Just move on.
Angel Foster
Bruh this will be no where near Sonic 06 levels If anything the natdex is their trump card now, if shit starts going awry they can just bust that shit out for the next game and the normies will go back to praising game freak no questions asked
Dominic Ward
Strawplaying
Nolan Martin
Who cares about a bunch of shitmons and legendaries when they already confirmed that /ourmon/ is in?
my favorite little dude made it in but I'm not gonna celebrate since, due to him not being pikachu, an eeveelution or lucario he'll probably be gone next year anyway.
Aiden Cox
that pic is the real definition of soul vs soulless
Alexander Allen
>implying Adventure to Sonic is as shit as XY was to pokemon
you fucking cucks have ben lapping up gamefreak's shit for years anyway, you are gonna buy this one too
Daniel Kelly
JP hasn't been buying Mainline Pokemon games lately.
The only people who bought LGPE are normies, but unless they're that much of a pathetic fanbase, they aren't buying this one as well.
Justin Sanchez
The game is going to come out lacklustre and there's nothing the consumers can do to fix it. Each Pokemon game since XY is actively worse than the previous one. >ORAS was worse than XY >SM was worse than ORAS >USM was a shittier SM >LGPE was worse than USM Unless there's a radical change, the pokemon games won't even reach the quality of XY ever again. GameFreak is almost as incompetent as Sonic team at this point. They lack talent, good direction, and soul.
Brandon Stewart
What been more embarassing,
#gamergate or #bringbacknationaldex
I can't decide
Levi Lee
This is the most pathetic controversy ever. You people are playing games made for children and bitching about it.
Caleb Baker
Obviously gamergate. It didn't actually achieve anything from its original intention.
Hunter Lewis
>You people are playing games made for children and bitching about it.
I feel it'd had to be a mix of this, and shaking up the core gameplay. Keeping the same gameplay and story garbage but reducing half of their workload doesn't make sense, especially when we've seen literally 0 increase in terms of "quality" and how snapping half of the dex could affect "balance".
Jayden Morris
I already gave up on pokemon long ago.
Leo Thomas
This is probably the first time the actual community complained to this extent. /VP/ and other Yea Forums people have been complaining for a while, but the large amount of the more normal fans typically defend GF to the grave. I still think its one of the worst communities though because being mindlessly ok with mediocrity is frustrating to see and deal with. They also have a fuck ton of furries, degenerate, OC, etc shit but its cool to like pokemon so it goes unnoticed largely.
Brandon Carter
>Goes both ways, fag it actually doesn't, you absolute brainlet. Not being able to catch all Pokemons troubles the people that like collecting them all, or that like a Pokemon that's not on the regional dex, but doesn't affect people that don't care and/or lick GF shoes. Being able to catch all Pokemons keeps these types of people happy and doesn't affect said bootlickers. You are a retard
This. I'll just go play Yokai Watch or Digimon. Shit, the Monster Rancher games are still pretty great.
Evan Miller
Gamefreak doesn't owe you shit.
That said, it was a dick move to not have the National Dex. What's the point of having Pokemon Home, when you can't fully use it?
Blake Adams
>have a best friend for years >gets terminal and dies >been moving his pokemon forward to each game to keep him with me in some fashion, also let his pokemon experience the new games >now they're stuck in purgatory
Daniel Baker
Based
William Walker
Cringe.
Carson Gray
Just don't buy it.
Ayden Johnson
>implying modern nintendo cares about anyone's interest >implying they won't use this as an opportunity for dlc in a mainline pokemon game