VTMB thread

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>video game discussion is not allowed on Yea Forums

This is why /vg/ was a mistake

what is the best faction?

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I JUST WANT CAMMIE SKULLS

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We are gonna make it bros, aren't we ??? Based Swede wouldn't leave us out in the cold?

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malk is next

read this thread and tell me it doesnt look like it belongs on /vg/

Based Swedes will provide, just witness next week

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Shitty OP
Clan reveal here
youtu.be/GXyYrpfrzdQ
Trailer at 5:20

>Seattle is infest by Toreadors
>it's dominated by Toreadors
>devs said multiple times and even now that this will be Toreador centered
>biggest tiddies seen so far belong to Toreadors
>smug piano guy is a Toreador
>guy on the poster is probably a Toreador as well
>this is basically Vampire: The Masquerade - Toreador™ game
Is there even a point to other clans?
Because I have a feeling that anyone not-Toreador will be cucked in this game.

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regularly occurring threads discussing the same game day in and day out belong on /vg/

Based

52 minutes till Ventrue-page

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Considering that everyone, but Tremere is vanilla as fuck, no.
Toreador and Tremere seem to be the only ones worth playing so far.

Cringe. This trailer clan is very bad. Almost Brujah tier of cringe. Almost! Even guys in the video aren't very enthusiastic about this one.

>4 clans revealed
>4 duds in a row
Who PINNING ALL THEIR HOPES ON THE LAST REVEAL here? With all the boring clans out of the way we're at least guaranteed one of the more out there clans now.

Tremere fags don't bother insisting your clan is any better than the rest who have been revealed thus far.

It's a toss up between Malkavian and Nosferatu - I'm leaning towards Nosferatu.

I mean, we are getting new content to talk about with the clan reveals and probably gameplay at E3. It's enough for a Yea Forums thread, not enough for a general.

>I mean

Don't like her voice

Tremere is as "exotic" as you'll get. They were literally thrown in vtmb2 for a "diversity" in comparison to the clans you will get.
t. devs

Nosferatu when?

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Anyone not Toreador is just nigger in Seattle it seems.

I'm not sure really who I want, Nos, Malks or Gangrels. Although the recent Venture reveal had them saying that not only BL1 clans were going to be available. But I'd be pissed if a new clan got in, with BL1 clans reserved for DLC.

never ever

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keep dreaming

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Either never or they will have a ton of work to do when implementing all the shit that comes with playing Nossy with the free DLC into the game.

cope harder with the loss of whichever smash shitposting thread died for this

I'm not opposed to the fifth being outside of the three we're expecting. I'd just be pissed if they dug up some boring cookie cutter clan like is saying they will.

He's unrealistically white for a Frenchman

Unironically probably as DLC. I'd be very surprised if Nos, with their very unique gameplay style, are available day one.

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here we go bois, also new long interview with Cara and Brian Mitsoda over at Polygon

polygon.com/features/2019/5/22/18634763/vampire-masquerade-bloodlines-2-writers-interview?
pastebin: pastebin.com/bQbWrd29

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VENTRUE RENDER LADS

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Beckett fucks though. Beckett got fucked by Dracula.

should've spoilered Cara Ellison's name as well
she's every bit as bad as Polygon

You are realistically unfunny and cringy for someone who's desperately trying to fit in.

>Not blonde
Cringe

eh

>brujah - fighter
>tremere - mage
>toreador - social/fighter
>ventrue - social/fighter
>malk - social/stealth
>nos - stealth
>gangrel - fighter/shapeshifting
>lasombra - social/mage
>tzimische - ????

>t. SEETHING frog
You aren't white, Pierre

>lasombra - social/mage
>potence

That's NPC, not your, or your character.

Looks generic

Tzimisce: Social/shapeshifter

Is there any point to making Ventrue playable when they could just do Lasombra instead? Covers most of the same themes but you get cool shadow magic too.

No, I haven't. I'm going to open it in the next run

I want him back

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Seattle is Camarilla city.
Ventrue have "muh lore" which makes them irreplaceable when it comes to Camarilla. Lasombra and others don't.

He'll just try to kill you again

Daily reminder Lacroix is unambiguously dead in canon and never coming back

maybe, I don't know, don't cross him?

It's so obvious that faggots that "say oh nosferatu are entirely different too much of a hassle on the dev side" haven't played the original game as Nosferatu. All the differences are superficial and aside from the first few lines of the dialogue, all dialogue are the same with other clans. Oh and you can't hire prostitutes.

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if he didn't have that scarf he'd look like a mafioso

I curious how people would implement the Lasombra weakness in a way that wouldn't be completely cosmetic

>guy on the poster is probably a Toreador as well
Inb4 that whose render you'll get on your last clan reveal.

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>some ugly mutt
>Ventrue

Dont cross The Cross

He has mad fortitude and survived the explosion actually

lol it's obvious those renders on the website will be the NPCs you'll diablerise

>why make it a DLC when we can make some half-assed sewers again

Honest question, Camarilla bros. If you stuck with LaCroix through the end, and the sacrophagus didn't contain a bomb, would he try and kill you again after that?

Thinbloods unite! Fuck clanfags!
We don't want your shitty curses, let us stay thinblood

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Here I come

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He has to be the best looking Nosferatu then.

Mask of a thousand faces solves all the trouble.
Yes

Dominate though

Yeah, easy: Ventrue are relevant and good looking, Lasombra are irrelevant and fugly

This week's reveal roll-out is the worst by far
>Brujah-tier trailer
>a render even worse than Brujah's
>pre-recorded video instead of livestream, which leaked

Where's the stay thinblood and then turn back to human after you kill your sire at the end of the game option?

what the fuck is that fucking thing

Next week will be better, considering that is the wild card

pretty upset toreadorks got the best voice acted teaser

It will be there.

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Explain this guy then ? I'm pretty sure you aren't going to diablerize him.

camarilla as it should be

I wish for Nos but i'm pretty sure it's Malk. Will be happy either way.

Lasombra in the Camarilla wasn't pitched by the author of Chicago by Night until after V5 had been pretty much finished. Since V5 was codeveloped with VTMB2, they wouldn't think of Lasombra as a non-villain faction until later. So it wouldn't be one of the initial clans.

I think the diablerie targets are the people in the trailers and render characters will be Skelter/Damsel tier NPCs in the havens

Not even the most kino of the unused tracks:
youtube.com/watch?v=0bYmjJK00XA&t

What's with all the fags wanting LaCroix's dick in their asses, huh?

Plenty of ugly Ventrue, they aren't Toreador

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Aren't Venture just richfags? Also nice quads.

The game, the setting and everything about this game, literally has Toreador stamp on it.

>Lasombra in the Camarilla wasn't pitched by the author of Chicago by Night until after V5 had been pretty much finished
Unlikely considering there are multiple allusions or outright hints at it in both the core and Camarilla book.
Also considering that the Chicago by Night developer was one of the main writers for v5

>inb4 you do
>thinblood playthrough will all 3 thinblood disciplines (bats, mist, telekinesis)

>nos - stealth/hacker
ftfy.

El goblino de Ventrue

True. I'm a Ventruefag and even I'm disappointed.

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Just came to watch the Ventrue trailer. Is that the best they got?

Holy fuck I'm disappointed

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Shit taste

Toreadors aren't exactly "beautiful" as they pretend they're either.

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Yes but they're supposed to be the white supremacist clan

Well, it ia listed as an entire "clan" on the website, i wouldn't be surprised.

Absolutely. The only reason he "saved" you was to show off. He kept sending you on stupidly dangerous missions after that, all by yourself, and you just wouldn't die. Etc. etc.

You being alive is a problem.

It's almost as if all vampires look just like the humans they were embraced from.
With obvious exceptions

Maybe it will be so centered around toreadors it will be about getting rid of them putting whatever clan/faction you back as the new power in the city. If that’s the case then this game might be way better with more paths.

I loved the first game but no matter what you choose you pretty much end up doing the same thing.

No, that's Brujah.

Sure - but he's Antitribu, imo. Gets off on people's suffering.

*except for smash and roster niggers

He's not Sabbat

>become the ultimate infiltrator
>every secret path/area available since you can glide, become mist and use tk
>shit at everything else (combat/stealth, every vamp NPC treats you like garbage)
the ultimate hard mode

Sure user

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>he does't know

And?
Also obtenebration is not magic.

he looks pretty cool, doesn't he?

>try mods shit
>install this "Clan Quest" because fags suggested i
>it makes Vick into a Malkavian, taking away coolest thing that was about him

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Disgusting flatboard. An embarrassment for the Toreador clan.

They deleted the video. here is the new stuff.

New stuff:

Ventrue Disciplines: Dominate and Fortitude

No Ventrue powers break the masquerade

Curse: Refined taste for blood, resonance/taste system for blood

The character models we see for the clans are NPCs. You can follow their "style" to a certain extent but the character images that we've seen like this are real people

Game on steam, GOG, epic, paradox store etc.

Weapons do break, for guns they are trying to design the gameplay to be "improvisational" and are still working to balance it and don't want to talk about it too much right now as they are still working on it

Healing through blood is an intrinsic ablity that can be done with a button press. There are ways of making this healing more effective

Bloodbuff/ blood rouse "in many ways is always on"

There will facial customiazation and they want to stick "library of options" instead of sliders. They will show us more later

>In the Clan Quest mod, he is a malkavian and his use of celerity is a result of diablerie.
why change it though

He is a Toreador with low humanity AKA a shit Toreador.

Neither is Thaumaturgy

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Isaac is an old man and Ash isn't who knows what impressive.
Former Toreador Antediluvian was infamous for being ugly as fuck.
And "attractive" Toreador boy is literally a BOY! A kid that got turned because literal Toreador faggot couldn't keep it in his pants because kid was so beautiful.

Attractive Toreador stereotype seems to apply to women mostly, because men sure as hell are disappointing in that regard.

We already knew that the game is on GOG. I already preordered it there.

That's Brujah /pol/tard

I don’t think so. I mean if anything you’d just be another sheriff for him.

If the ventrue player character looks at least somewhat like pic related I'm happy

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I wasn't the one who made that mod. They probably did it because they thought that Toreadors can't be crazy, so lets make him a Malk since that shit fits more.

bloodlines2.com/en/ventrue

>Neighbour is some cowardly thinblood who spends all day at home drinking bloodbags instead of getting involved in the plot
based.

Look of your character will depend on you and you only.

kek imagine missing the point of a toreador cult leader

>decide to give this game a try
>install unofficial patch
>absorb the tutorial
>walk outside
>try out the combat
>uninstall game

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Can't you customize the look of your character now? Though I don't know if you'd get a jacket like that one.

I'm confused, maybe I don't know enough about Ventrue but what the hell do they have to do with Fortitude?
nothing about them screams defense or armor, especially not to the point of their skin turning to stone

that's what I don't about VTM, your character personality (or great part of it) is bound to the clan curse.
such a gimmick

>Ventrue Disciplines: Dominate and Fortitude
okay take your bets there is going to be "social commentary about consent" when the game comes out because of Dominate

Could be added as later DLC I hope. Toreador and Ventrue do have differences but I agree that it doesn't make much sense to have two social focused clans, when they could have done something more unique and even as it stands, the number of clans is way too small. Malkavian or Nosferatu seem the most likely to be added as the final clan which would mean they don't even have as many as the original Bloodlines (which is an unfinished game) and not even any new ones.

>a fucking year preorder

Hmm what if in order to upgrade your clan disciplines you have to chase down and diablerize more than one vampire?

Well the Ventrue at least looks like a Ventrue. Why did they have to fuck up with the Toreador but make all other clan renders good?

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Pre order and the puzzle hunt on the website both give you long trench coats

>preset faces
Wtf? Its the current year.

>Bloodbuff/ blood rouse "in many ways is always on"
so it's something you can level over time but is a passive buff unlike in the first game? otherwise they wouldn't even bother mentioning it

>thought we'd get the chad daddy Ventrue from the first trailer
>instead we just get some generic shmuck
>nothing even interesting in the trailer at all

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do clans only have two disciplines what the fug

>As more and more billion-dollar corporations shape the local and global landscape, enterprising Ventrue have entrenched themselves in the businesses of the 21st century, paving the way for a prosperous future for their clan… and making enemies of the residents who preferred the way things used to be.
So... Ventrue vs. Toreador situation huh

>bloodlines2.com/en/ventrue
>command
>blood cost 0

FUCK VENTRUE

>to the point of their skin turning to stone
They embraced the mafia memes and took concrete shoes too literally :^)

He looks like the generic boss from saints rows

So we get two homosexual clans now?

Ventrue have literally everything to do with Fortitude.

>they thought that Toreadors can't be crazy
yeah they only get incapacitated for a scene because they looked at something pretty

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venture used to be knights and aristocrats back in days.

Toreador render looks amazing though

You still have to spend blood to Mesmerize someone first, bossing them around after that is free.

Of course a boring clan like Ventrue gets a boring trailer

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Command is useless if you don't cast Mesmerize and have a target you can control. It makes sense since if you're low on blood, you can still use Mesmerize and be able to order the NPC around. You fucking retard.

It only works on Mesmerized targets, in other words it's just a control command for the first discipline.

>Dominate
>NO MASS/SUICIDE
Too problematic for Cara Ellison.

>tfw don't know if I want to start as a VentureChad or TremereChad

Try being 18 first

Apparently the idea is that they need to have the power to defend their authority and weather any uprisings. It's one of the reasons they're still on top.

>not a TremereStacy

I'll stick to Toreadors with their celerity and presence. I just wish that the clan render wasn't such a flat ugly dyke.

They keep talking about change and hinting towards greater clans, but so far everything has been vanilla as FUCK, from clan reveals to powers etc. Hopefully whoever the fifth clan is changes things up abit

Now I'm actually worried about Malkavian reveal

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venfalse

isn't mass suicide a dementation thing?

yep, this is what I get for being a dumb speedreader

NO NO NO LASOMBRO'S THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

isn't Cara Ellison a big fan of all the problematic shit in the VTMB1. this is from reading her thing on RPS

n-next week
n-n-next week, right?
right?

if it is malkavs I'm more worried what skills they are getting

>2183kskaxkmw211s-_V_WEB-jilmfk.mp4

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Sorry I'm not a tranny.

Vito Scaletta is that you?

Still cheaper than casting awe and entrance in succession.

Dementation and Dominate were literally the same discipline in Bloodlines.
Suicide in general is not really a dominate thing outside of someone possessing Terminal Decree

?

You've never had the ability to dominate someone into suicide. You can dominate two people into killing each other, which is pretty much the same thing, but you can't do it directly.

I'm impressed that they managed to make Ventrue interesting in this one. I may actually play every clan this time around.

dementation, obfuscate i guess.

What could possibly go wrong when it comes GAMERS RISE UP XDDD clan trailer?

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Historical monarchs and rulers are often depicted wearing armor. Depicts strength and stability
Fortitude=armor

>everyone wanted to be the fifth clan
>turns out to be a poison chalice

Excellent

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Ventrue can be mobsters, right? Not just industrial, trading types?

It's likely going to be Malkavian and they will be boring as fuck like all the other clans. They don't even get Dementation anymore ffs

>Dementation is now Dominate in V5
>Bloodlines 2 is based on V5
>Signature discipline of Dominate
NO NO NO MALKAVIAN BROS

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Don't remember talking about undead jews.

Don't fucking jinx it, they might fucking do it

No more leaks.
Shouldn't have spammed that link/filename for a week

>Ventrue
>Instead of Malk or Nos, that would actually have new gameplay

More red flags...
I guess the last clan is Malk, makes sense they'd save them for last because they were a big meme in the first game.

If they put in Gangrel instead or some stupid shit like Setites, I'm just... Ugh.

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>the entire intro will be focusing on 'seeing the future before it will come to pass' and 'whispers of other's thoughts'
>last shot will be a dude in a straight-jacket with the sleeves undone looking at you
a girl can fucking hope

Because Entrance doesn't need you to use Awe first, you dope.

I'm expecting best case scenario for them to be handled a bit more serious and less "lel fishmalk" shit. Maybe portraying them in a more sympathetic light instead of spouting meme shit.

>even in undeath, Vito looks for Joe
Don't you dare do this to me user

Fucking Ventrue? The "surprise" clan will be Malkavian, I guarantee it. I really wanted to play a clan that wasn't in the first game.

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>stupid retards still somehow thinking a Sabbat clan will be in the game
Yeah my dude, Tzimisce is next xDDD where my baali bros at xD

Dementation doesn't exist in v5. Replaced by Dominate. I'm worried how they'll handle Malkavians this time. They likely won't be as fun to play as the first game and probably will be indistinguishable from the other clans.

>mfw neither Malkav or Nossie are getting in
It's OUR turn now bros

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>even bothering with the Polygon link
lmao

Better shell out for the DLC, goy ;)

I like the CbN v5 art or at least what they've shown so far.

Is it even possible for a vampire to get a nose piercing? Is she piercing herself every night?

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I like this better especially if it’s abything like dragons dogma. Face sliders always look awful and you end up with oblivion tier goblins.

I'd prefer fishmalk shit over a boring and uninspired interpretation. I fully expect them to make Malkavians identical to the other clans that is with no cool quirks.

Lasombra aren't with Sabbat anymore though.

>They likely won't be as fun to play as the first game and probably will be indistinguishable from the other clans.
>only clan with obfuscate and stealth gameplay
>indistinguishable

Until we see the mechanics at work in the environment we should probably refrain from deciding on what's OP and whats worth the blood cost.

who knows, some people aren't petty enough to care about giving Polygon $0.003 in ad revenue

Dominate is exclusive to Ventrue this time around.

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Rather it be Nosferatu then

whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Al_Capone

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You should have read about it first, the combat sucks, it's the dialogue and gothic feel that makes this game popular.

Hope you are ready for the most tame fucking Malk possible

My hype is fucking gone

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Obfuscate, Auspex then? Don't know how auspex fits the stealth gameplay, i guess scouting enemies so you can avoid them? Fuck man, if dementation is gone i'd rather have Nos with Obfuscate Animalism.

Your third discipline will be your thinblood discipline carried over. You’ll pick one thinblood discipline and then if/when you diablerize into your clan the other two slots will be your clan primary and secondary disciplines.

Ok, if they make Ventrue into mobster vampires i might actually play them. I wonder how much the story will change depending on your clan of choice.

But Dementation doesn't exist in v5. Unless...

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If he didn't, you can bet he'll get a few hundred (You)s saying "LMAO FAKE"

okay serious question time
>first game had epic computer hacking and lock picking to get into places
what cheesy gameplay mechanics for access are they going to put into this one? or are they going to just stick with the tried and tested violence/social distinction for problem solving?

Sewer raaaaats and Lasombra fags! You can have that last slot.

Go away retard. Nobody cares about you may mays clan.

This is already starting to look like a nightmare monkey paw. Now nobody wants their favorite clan to be revealed

Why can't we have nice things?

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>no Malks
>no Gangrel
>no Tzimisce
>no gameplay
>lots of promises
>butchered main theme
Any reason to give a shit about this inevitable trainwreck?

fortunately, no

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Yep. Been saying this for awhile now. Completely boring and neutered Malks.

Devs have already confirmed we HAVE to pick a clan, and that we will need full vampire powers to handle the later quests.
>sauce
I can't remember, fucking Google it, moron.

They haven't stated anything about skills and skillchecks other than the fact that there will still be a character sheet.

>that pic
Asshole.

could you elaborate?
all I hear is "sjw muh power fantasy this" or whatever or whatther the fuck

can someone just post straight info for once

Gotta be considerate to people with mental illnesses, user, now now, it's 2019, sweetie.

you can sense presence with auspex

What? All I'm saying is that comparing them is like comparing apples to oranges--they're completely different kinds of discipline. Not saying one is better than the other.

TUNNEL RATS REJOICE

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BEHOLD, THE LATEST VENTRUE RENDER

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I love everything about Tremere but the flatchested render they used as art for the page. Everything else is great. Also i hear that the big tiddy was confirmed as a Toreador so i am happy. I just wish they used her as the Toreador render.

>Gotta be considerate to people with mental illnesses
>retard is their main poster

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Are the other clans really this whiny? Like who gives a fuck?

I just watched the Ventrue vid, and why the fuck would you stink the whole penthouse up burning a corpse inside of it?

Slowly losing hype. All very safe clan options, leads me to believe gameplay will barely vary between them.

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MISTAH JAY CEE LACROIX
IN DA FRESHH

Not watching the trailer. How bad is it? Ventrue's my favorite

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Also
>Vampire's using fire

Don't they frenzy near it?

You have peons doing your bidding that will have it all clean and spiffy in a couple of hours. Everything is easy when you're rich.

bland and generic set up + bland voice acting

Ask them that.
Brujah tier bad.

It's just very bland.

Im sorry lasombros

>malkavian are mentally ill and have to be babied
>harp on you about your verbage
>muh pronouns
>just because im malkavian doesnt mean im less than you
>malkavians arent crazy we're superior
>normal kindred just dont understand
its gonna be a cringefest

I'm guessing you have a selection like Nose #1, Nose #2, Eyes #1, Eyes #2 and so on and so forth

If it poses danger, a controlled fire shouldn't do shit.

I think these threads have been built off the artificial hype of 'who is getting in who isn't', but when all the reveals have been active garbage dumps, its hard to get excited.

lot of work for something you can do easy in some abandoned lot or alley

Wow, the Fortitude abilities are unbelievably boring. They sound almost exactly the same as well.

Depends on their courage and the size/controlled nature of the fire. Most vampires can easily resist Rotschreck or whatever the fuck they call it in V5 now as long as it's a controlled flame.

Nigga they ain't sabbat in v5 anymore.
>After the rise of the Second Inquisition, and the start of the Gehenna Crusade in the Middle East, Amici Noctis reached out to trusted Keepers, those with reputations for clan over sect loyalty, and the Friends arranged diplomatic missions by these same Keepers to the Anarchs and the Camarilla. At first these representatives are to make solitary offerings of fealty to the Ivory Tower, before petitioning for the entry of the entire clan. Probably at least half the Lasombra will remain in the Sabbat, but will lack central authority or direction if the Amici Noctis is going full Ivory Tower. Those of Lasombra who held titles of Archbishop in the Sabbat, now attempt to do so in the Camarilla, bringing with them their manipulation of the Catholic Church. Any Lasombra ranked Cardinal are put to the torch as a gesture of good faith.

All clans get ONE primary discipline that is unique to them meaning that auspex will be their secondary. Malkavs literally aren’t malkavs without dementation and obfuscate should be saved for nosferatu. It never made sense that malks had obfuscate to begin with. Also I don’t care about the domination thing that shit is retconned in this game for all I care.

How is Tzimisce a stealth clan exactly
Its either malk, nossie or fucking ravnos

That's what they said to prevent pic related from happening.

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Aren't Lasombra Camarilla in v5?

>psychopath =/= retards who speak randomly
>psychopath = respectful the mentally ill
>retards who speak randomly = absolutely haram
t. logic

They did say that they were taking some inspiration from Bloodlines 1, but I doubt they'd want to bring it back considering their statements on the subject. I'd guess that they'll do Obfuscate + Auspex for that "future sight"/stealth angle. They ARE all about the mind after all and Dominate fits better as a Ventrue exclusive.

And leave your heaven to be assassinated ? No no no no.

Yes, the third discipline will be one of the Thin Blood ones you will get to keep.
They said something about keeping the clans as unique as possible by doing so.

I wouldn't mind if they were still a fishmalk but with a more sympathetic view at points.

>one heals, the other stuns the enemy
>the latter is a Masquerade violation
lmao

Eeeeeeeh. Ventrue are meh from a video game perspective.

So this leaves the stealth archetype to cover. Will they cram Malks into that role? It'd be weird.

Lasombra and Nos should be representative of the stealth archetype.

>we're in prealpha guys, can't show you shit
>game releases in a year
Yeah waiting for those sweet delays.

>your character personality (or great part of it) is bound to the clan curse.
If a DM told you that you couldn't make a crazy Tremere, an ugly Toreador, a Nos that wears makeup or a slumdog Ventrue then they're faggots with no imagination, (or you just couldn't justify it).

>killing good
>fishmalk bad

>They deleted the video
What?

If Malks are getting in they had better have unique dialog.

So is trailer chick actually Lilith?

Did they just take a page from Todd's notebook or something?

>Game on steam, GOG, epic, paradox store etc.
Not in 6 months when the game's an Epic store exclusive. So tired of this shit.

>Lasombra and Nos should be representative of the stealth archetype.

Yeah but Nos need a fucking LOT of extra treatment because of their appearance.

You mental disability is that you think your a Nos and have all their stealth abilities.

I mean, every clanwill technically have unique dialogue. But they're not going to have what you want for Malk, user.

>Ventrue are meh from a video game perspective.
we still have no idea what the social system looks like
for toreadors and ventrue that's the real make or break aspect of the game

Green dress narrator girl's name is Lillian, that's all we know.

I'm just saying, it does limit a little when your malk have to have a mental condition, and your toreador have to have a fascination for something as art

Lasombra barely have any stealth abilities. The tier one of their clan discipline is all they have, and it sucks compared to obfuscate.
Why do you retards continue to force this stupid Lasombra meme? They're never gonna be in, jesus.

>liking malks, the reddit clan

>tfw Toreador with Malk bf
Congrats, little bros.

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Because using vici and time they could look like literally anyone?
Granted, doesnt really work in regards to VTMB mechanics

>a girl can fucking hope
you know the rules

Yea they talked about using dominate to remove obstacles, so it could be valuable depending on how they build the game.

Honestly, with the Tender ARG followed by immediate pre-orders, I figured Paradox had planned everything out and the train was running on time. But the more information we get, the more development appears to be a shitshow.
It first showed up last night at about 2AM. It was probably posted early by accident.

why the clans only have 2 disciplines know each?
is it a 5th edition thing?

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Last clan is going to be Gangrel faggots. Malk and Nos need extra effort to not suck dick and paradox loves their DLC.

>a Nos that wears makeup
more like try wearing a mask or SFX tier shit
i think there were even stuff like body odor that made people immediately aware of you because people kept complaining about that "you can just wear a disguise, clan curse is too inconsequential"

You want to see tranny tits, user?

>So this leaves the stealth archetype to cover.
There is no stealth clan.

>VTMB2 comes out
>good atmosphere
>the combat is finally satisfying
>the social aspect gets worse as the game continues
>the last quests of the game are all social and they're all terribly written

I'm not saying I want fishmalk just dialog that reflects their mental illness.

lmao retard
this was explained ages ago

because you keep your thinblood discipline as your 3rd and i guess console controls couldn't handle having to much shit to press.

oh
It's a girl (male) ?

Because you start as a thinblood and keep the one thinblood discipline you choose at the start of the game when you join a clan.

Now, if they weren't lazy assholes, they'd make more disciplines and give them to the NPCs, who should have them, but no. More red flags.

Gameplay design choice, in V5 clans still have three innate disciplines.

so they just made a carbon copy of china town
bravo paradox

why is everyone getting so butthurt about this picture? it's just some random ventrue.

Because, gameplay wise, you can sorta turn Obtenebration into "you're now Garrett".

the got dementation back dumbo

What format was the video? They haven't uploaded anything to youtube other than teasers and trailers.

I believe they said it's because it would be a huge hassle to pick an ability on consoles if there are that many

You know one of their obfuscate abilities is literally just changing their appearance completely, right? Nossies can look however the fuck they like with little effort, especially since maintaining obfuscate powers doesn't take any real effort.

>Lasombra curse is being unable to see yourself in a mirror
How is that bad?

As long as it isn’t malks I don’t care. Malks are the worst possible thing for them to add as that last slot right now.

you literally BECOME part of a wall

>Why do you retards continue to force this stupid Lasombra meme?
Why not? They part of Camarilla now. So you can shoehorne them somewhere. They also have pretty fun discipline. It's not like Troika would pass up more clans in Bloodlines. Have they time and budget. So what stop Paradox here?

>Bloodlines 2 is based on V5
They've broken enough mechanics at this point that this argument is really not valid.

daddyposters seething at their ugly ventrue.

>posts on Yea Forums
>draws attention to the fact that they're a ''''''girl''''''
>Yea Forums gets more trannies every year to the point you can't really go 5 threads without seeing one

Gee, I wonder
Actual femanons never mention they're femanons.

Fuck outta my face youtube.com/watch?v=e186qBIY_B0

but the poster is not brujah

A big Masquerade violation, user.

OHNONONONO NOSBROS

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HE'S NOT WHITE ENOUGH

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You can, but you shouldn't. Lasombra don't hide, their clan is all about domination and power.
Meanwhile, all Nosferatu do is hide.

Dementation is the clan's signature discipline and it's literally Dominate with mental disorder twist. As far as i know they will simply call it Dementation and have it be a variation of Dominate.
The shared discipline will be Aupex for sure, Obfuscate is Nosferatu's signature.

I want to rp a masc ventrue who's blood preference is other masc ventrues.

Because to shoehorn that clan in, they'd have to kick out an established one, like Malks or Nos, which is going to piss people off and make no sense.

Mental conditions and fascinations can be hugely flexible and fit all sorts of characters and personalities.

The worst is probably the Brujah weakness, they're literally just contrarians, not just ideologues who really believe in something but edgy losers who love to shout and disagree.

>being a parasite to other parasites
That's a popular move, user.

Imagine if Malkavians had a Stanley Parable-style narrator commenting on your actions.
Or a Bastion/Pyre-style.

>CHIROPTERAN
Is this ''I'M BATMAN'' the discipline?

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Based

Oh great, pandering to consolefags. I guess it's to be expected these days, but why should I have to suffer for them?

Oh well, maybe people will mod a 3rd discipline in.

>next trailer heavily implies malks only to pull a quick one and annouce Tzimisce

Literally Vito from Mafia, he looks just like Venture why are people freaking out? Ventrue have always physically been depicted as looking like white mobsters. This is Julian Luna from Kindred The Embraced TV show, he was the Ventrue prince

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Only the part where you use a swarm of bats to scare children. You cannot transform into a huge autistic billionaire.

Also i wonder what fun combinations will be possible with thinblood and clan powers.

Dementation was replaced with Dominate in v5 so I doubt it will be in. Also they need Obfuscate or else this game will lack a dedicated stealth class which would leave a huge hole in the gameplay. They'd be fucking idiots to leave it out.

Lacroix lookin ass

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Lorelet here, So do all Tzimisce look fucked up like Andrei? Do they all look monstrous?

But you can glide! All you need is is a pair of fake batwings! I'M BATMAN!

Just like with Dragon Age

Yeah but I just don't see Nos working in a modern video game. In the era of scripted cutscenes, scripted encounters, scripted fights, how will Nos work?

I'd cum buckets if that happened but no Tzimisce aren't even in v5.

Malks are one of the things that put WoD on the map, the mental illness is a great gameplay and lore mechanic. But political pressures are going to neuter it, mark my words.

>Giovanni lookin ass
ftfy

They couldnt care less about being humans

He wishes

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>Mitsoda was quick to point out that his game has little if anything in common with the tabletop RPG. In fact, Hardsuit was pitching Bloodlines 2 to Paradox while the troubled tabletop version was still being written.
RUDI FAGS BTFO
DEMENTATION CONFIRMED

>Swedes
>based
Guys...

This guy looks like a mobster.

No.
They can look like whatever they want. And they can make you look like whatever they want.

What would Todd's clan be? Ravnos, for being a liar?

>implying
One: They've stated they want to make it as openly available as possible
Two: I'm pretty sure they definitely don't want it to be Epic exclusive considering Epic put the game on sale without even informing Paradox that was happening.
Three: The EGS hype is running low on steam because there's still no shopping cart, and their system applies their sales to all games on the store with no modification besides just removing the games from the store.

Fuck off. We want Ventrues like LaCroix, blonde and blue eyed

They can decide what they look like.

If the game has those things, it's gonna be shit anyway, so I don't care.

...

Good that's what Ventrue are supposed to look like and quite often because of their wealth and lack of public identity kine often assume them to be part of organised crime anyway

If you release a game on consoles you have to take their controllers into consideration, that's just how it is. It's not pandering, just giving everyone the same experience no matter on what platform they play.

And gay as fuck yeah?

Youtube upload to the Paradox XL channel, the same pre-recorded interview that's up now.

As long as the piercing is not removed, it will keep the hole from healing. It's the same with humans for the first few days, if you remove the piercing the wound will simply heal and close itself

After all these reveals, I'm positive they're gonna do Malk worse than fishmalk tier dialogue solely because they're 100% gonna remove dementia

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>implying French are white people
the average /pol/ amerimutt is 56%, the average frenchman is 23%

LaCroix was the worst Ventrue representation ever, you guys just don't even know what a Ventrue is. They're supposed to be strong leaders, LaCroix was just a sneaky french cuck because he played the bad guy of the game. Ventrue are supposed to be alpha.

Final clan will be
>Lasombra

2 "Free" DLC clans will be
>Malk
>Nos

Season of the Wolf Clan
>Gangrel

Paradox jewery bundle clan
>Tzimisce
>Assmites
>Salubri
>Set
>Gio

The last two can be fixed/mended over, the first can be fixed with all the fucking money the EGS guarantees.

I need to start a Lasombrafag file, to post when the flood of asshurt begins

>kine often assume them to be part of organised crime anyway
Knowing Ventrue they most definitely are involved with organized crime. Organized is the word to look for.

>butchered main theme
Fuck you, it's quite a good main theme.

>Set
>Salubri

Fucking hell Baali have a better chance of getting in than those 2.

>>Paradox jewery bundle clan
I hope none of those clans get in because I really don't trust them to do it justice.

>butchered main theme
Here is your (you)

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Malk is next, they said ALL future clans will be dlc.

What flood of asshurt? It's obviously b8.

Might be lower. The only blonde Frenchies I know are from Alsace like Kevin Mayer

Post your reaction to today's reveal

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Can I get a link?

how much of a mutt must you be to think this brown hair is blonde and those grey eyes are blue

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That's why I wrote "imagine". Malks are gonna be garbage.
Cope. The theme sounds like it's "recorded" inside a fucking trash can.
They ruined a god-tier theme trying to pander to "muh nostalgia" fags instead of going for something new.

>cope because i have shit taste
No you can just cry more, the song is good.

If they drop the "typing your commands" thing because of console support I'm going to fucking kill them.

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I don't see any new Bloodlines interview on Paradox XL. The only thing I see on this channel are the twitch broadcasts.

Paradox alredy confirm "free clan" DLC. But devs have no clue which one to add. So nobody going to get kicked out.
>which is going to piss people
That's not a good reason and both you and i know it.

Season of the wolf isn't coming with a clan. Stop spreading your retardation to others

Ok subhuman

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My condolences.

Retard.

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See

The model looks really bad, maybe it's just the lighting but it looks like its from an Xbox 360 game. Pretty weird since every model so far has looked great.

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da fug
thought they put it back up
AH
IT'S UNLISTED
youtube.com/watch?v=GXyYrpfrzdQ
Public, last night. Don't know what's going on.

it's better than the original, no dated wub wub noises or needless background noise

I urge you to look at the models again, then. Especially the Tremere model.

They removed dementation in the tabletop? Why?

Thanks

>new theme is just the same wub wub noises but with the original muffled and put in the background
Are you deaf or just severely retarded, user?

I think it's the lighting, too many shadows on his face.
The other models didn't have that

fucking based Mitsoda.
That gentleman gamer is a lying fuck. VtMB2 and V5 being developed side by side my ass.

Functionally the same as Dominate on all but Methuselah levels basically. All Hardsuit has to do is make new hallucination abilities nd boom, signature discipline.

Plays out almost the same with Dominate, Malkavians now get a unique power under Dominate discipline called Dementation.

Ventrue are pretty cool but god damn their disciplines suck ass
I might go Toreador for a social playthrough solely because they at least have celerity if you absolutely have to fight. Super speed/bullet time doesn’t get old, ever.
Also how the fuck are they going to realize Toreador’s clan curse in terms of gameplay?

Thanks for confirming both your deafness and chronic autism.

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And Paradox discounting everything by a flat $10 NOT adjusted for regional currency, making games like Bloodlines 2 $5 for people in most of Eastern Europe? These are pretty bad business decisions mate that reflect really poorly towards people who make way more money and have better things to do than you or I

>manipulate dude
>extra defense
If you put it this way, it really fucking seems like they only have 2 real abilities. Very, very, very fucking disappointing.

>dominate sucks ass
No.

IIRC they haven't officially even uploaded the song yet. That video was from an user who ripped the audio.

When you're not surrounded by your preferred setting and people you gain Will slowly and maybe minor debluffs.

heh, sorry kid
youtube.com/watch?v=C1GhNWS3yN8

Ventrue in this game is basically puppeteer + tank.

>free minions
>minions can open doors and eliminate obstacles
>weapons have durability and they're scarce which makes minions more valuable
>fortitude for soak

>malkavian

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its how the game gets you, TOO many people happen to say not to open it, it gets you really curious. im conviced at least half of peoples first playthroughs end in a boom

Well, Paradox literally owns WhiteWolf, they can change it if they want, wouldn't be the first time either.
However if Malks have Dominate than it wont be Ventrue signature discipline anymore, meaning Ventrue's unique would be Fortitude, which makes no sense since they are the freaking politicians of the Kindred world, they boss around, it's what they do.
Honestly don't expect to see Obfuscate on release, they can easily make regular Stealth a thing that the player can focus on (there's even a Thin Blood discipline that helps) and give Nosferatu an edge in their DLC while also giving them a unique Discipline that they are known for.

youtube.com/watch?v=YtePDJLimFw&t
youtube.com/watch?v=Imb_HHcp2Tk&t

>You can throw away all your guns when you run out of bullets and feel like a holywood movie star that is really important for us
Who is this retard? I hope he has no influence over the games development.

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lame.

it also works on cameras
mortals can just wave that away as a failure on hardware side but vampires, hunters and the rest know exactly who you are when there's a guy walking around who can't be captured on camera

>Ventrue
>Allowing a mortal to witness your Fortitude under attack is a Masquerade Violation.

Lame. My hype for this game dies a little more each week.

Faggots

The clan that will get cucked is Gangrel, sadly.

Why do you give the key to LaCroix in some of the endings?
It's not like you know what's in it

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>People are wrong to say I'm taking power from them
>Because when you, exclusively, have authority and honor in your blood it's good for those people because ???
>I demand loyalty not "thank you"s
This feels disjointed and weird.

if someone stabs you with a knife and you dont flinch at all, that´s a pretty obvious sign

We Mafia now.

Over speculation?

>Tzimisce : Meme

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Chads

>monsters deluding themselves for millenia have cognitive dissonance
WOW
He's explaining the Ventrue mentality, not justifying their Long Dick Johnsoning.

NOOOOOO!

if you do side with him and lick his boots you can hand him the key, but he lets you have the honor of opening it

Clan DLC will be free no?

Because you can stay loyal to him throughout the game, if you genuinely wanted to side with him and thought opening the sarcophagus was good then maybe you would want to help him achieve his goals

in the first game it was fine because both mechanically and thematically they could just get the big guns and go to town
but now that guns aren't going to be anything more than a improv thing it's gonna be meh as far as combat goes

Because you know it won't end well for Lacroix.
Correct.

best one coming through youtu.be/SycUY7ANtD0

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I'm exclusively talking about the trailer and paraphrased what she said. The phrasing/meaning is really odd and doesn't feel like something anyone would say, even a powermad monster.

I meant if youre not a lacroix loyalist, why would you ever give him the key without knowing what's inside

>smacking someone with a lead pipe full force over the back of the head
>They don't flinch, let alone react much
Nothing out of the ordinary here.

The options are limited to the side you pick, Camarilla doesn't do it at all. If you are on your own you can either do it or leave it for him to do so.
Also, there's all the warnings over the game that you shouldn't do it.

Yeah, if I had the option I would have just walked out of the office with the key and kept it for myself.

It seemed crazy to risk Lacroix starting the apocalypse just because you didn't want to be the one to open it. But I guess that's what the Strauss ending was for.

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You may suspect that something bad is in it as pretty much everyone else does, or you may get so curious you want to open it yourself. First time I ever played the game I got to stab LaCroix in the throat with the blade on his desk.

To be honest, the teaser so so boring and dumb I shut off my brain for it.
WHY IS THE VAMPIRE SMOKING WHY IS THE VAMPIRE NEAR FIRE WHY IS THE VAMPIRE EXECUTING SOMEONE WITH FIRE IN A POSH OFFICE

I'm with you. The post I quoted stated none of the powers will be Masquerade violations.

Jack smoked in the first game and fire doesn't necessarily trigger frenzy

Vampires can that flush can smoke. Your last point is the only really offensive one. Sounds like a lot of fucking cleanup for almost no benefit.

I want Punished LaCroix

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Why DOES Lacroix have a fireplace in his office?

Because it's traditional, I would think.

It's not like there weren't vamps that smoked in the first game.

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Fuck
I just realized that
How are they going to do this?
Hopefully, they'll just simplify it for consoles and PC still has the typing interface

close, but not quite

youtu.be/hq90bvH51oI

Why are the trailers so bad and cringe? Surely these aren't real characters and the writing in the game is much better right? If I wanted my friend to play this game I would make sure not to tell him about these trailers.

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because he LARPs as a Toreador when no one is watching

He sucks big fat burning logs when no one's looking because he's a masochist

how does it feel to be such a gama males that you larp for phenotypes of males ?

I like the Toreador one quite a bit. Shame about the hand.

I would think most penthouses have a fire place, a fire place isn't something you can just remove willy nilly either you'd need planning permission etc and it would draw attention possibly. Also Vampires can sit near a fire place if they want without issue.

its the 90s aesthetic

It's superficially weird but fundamentally correct for Malks to have obfuscate. It's obvious why Nosferatu would cultivate it, they actually need it to survive. Not so much Malks.

But Vampire disciplines can basically be broken down into powers over mind or matter, either the vampire's own (e.g. potence and auspex) and/or those of others (e.g. viscissitude and presence).

Obfuscate doesn't make you physically invisible, it basically tricks the mind of others nearby to pay you no heed.

Malks are all about mind fuckery. Hence why their disciplines are all mind-based. In fact they enjoy actively fucking with other people's perception of reality.

Though presence would be a good fit too. It might even be a better fit. What better way to hide your insanity than by having others inexplicably drawn to you despite your disturbed mind?

hand?

What if the characters in the trailers are all part of the cleanup list? Brujah sets fire to something, incurs a masquerade violation. Ventrue does the same, Tremere kidnapped a city official and filmed it all etc.

The toreador one was decent imo but yeah, the rest were pretty shit.

Watch it again. Pay close attention to the shot of her running her finger along the table.

Lets just say they wouldn't use decimal

She has vicissitude.

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She got tzimicse'd into having an extra finger on her hand

Why does everyone assume it won't be Gangrel? It seems like the obvious next choice to me. Nos and Malk would require more effort than Gangrel, so I would expect them to choose the easy one.

Unfortunately, I'd say it's guaranteed to be cut. Not only because of consoles, but also because the game isn't set in the early 2000's anymore and PCs look and work differently now. You don't navigate through menus by typing anymore. As for passwords, it will probably be a hacking minigame a la Deus Ex HR or nu-Fallout.

explain how a fucking asylum makes you think of gangrel

because we got melee/brawler archetype but no stealth
unless they want to drop stealth all together

Sometimes developers do things for reasons other than pure profit margins

First time, nah, but eventually did all endings.
youtube.com/watch?v=nOuxOUYycoU

Gangrel don't have stealth abilities but can work as secondary stealth

The tremere one was really meh but not bad, the toreador good but now got this shit pointed out to me. Thinblood sucked, Venture was bad and Brujah was god awful.

What about all those games that don't take PC controls into account then ? From the retarded UI to the camera and mouse controls.

Which is obviously not the case since so far we seem to be getting reskins of the same character with minimal variety in gameplay.

I'm sorry, how does setting something or someone on fire incur a masquerade violation?

If they handled masquerade violations realistically, ever being witnessed getting shot, maybe stabbed several times in a row would be a violation regardless of your clan or disciplines. If it's anything like Bloodlines 1 getting shot 12 times will do nothing to you even without buffs and people are gonna be freaked out at that point.

Because they already have a werewolf themed expansion lined up and it would be perfect to release Gangrel alongside it.

You guys do know that actual people can be born like that, right? It's weird, but it happens. Hannibal Lecter from the books was born with the exact same issue, the author even makes it a point in the third book that Hannibal removed the extra finger.

Despite the fact that there's a whole new Thinblood playstyle and every clan shown so far has different disciplines from the first game

ofcorse i did, everyone tells you not to.
then i reloaded and gave nines the finger and was much more satisfied.

It was an animation mistake nigger, deal with it

Toreador's taste for beauty aren't the same as Tzimisce. It's more likely this was a goof.

Is it an animation error or is this toreador woman an actual character in the game who turns out to be a tzmice? Seems like it would be an extremely obvious mistake to make, in fact literally impossible to make. We've just spoiled the fuck out of this game.

>Rasputin had fortitude.

Different as in fewer, yeah. Great point.

Just saying, if they messed up it was precisely with one thing that exists in the real world. If they decide to go along with it, they can.

His death is infamous, you idiot.

please relax your autism

One different discipline and another generic combat buff will not make the gameplay unique. Switching spells in Bioshock provides more variety.

To be fair everyone freaked out that he wouldn't die, it's why they dropped the poison and hired killers and went for just kicking the shit of of him untill his (still alive and trying to react) body was messed enough to go into the sack and from there into the river (and still freaking alive).

Yeah, he died of hypothermia.

>implying those cheap cartoonish "trailers" aren't the work of an intern hastily drawing together some halfassed sketches
It's a mistake.

They also stabbed him a lot of time.

user, we both know it was a fuck up and not suppose to be that she actually has 6 fingers.

you guys are being too hard on the trailer, it's absolutely generic just the the ventrue themselves but it's fine.

You're right, it's specialized magic without the downsides of paradox or energy costs.

So, literally Norman Osborn?

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I think it's mostly fags that are seething because the trailer has a woman in it and not muh daddy.

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Man this game is truly a nostalgia bait, even the videos in the website take like an hour to load like in the early 00s
Such dedication to detail!

Must feel bad living in a third world shithole.

probably traffic because of the new trailer, same for me

Since they confirmed Lou's gonna be in the game, so will this guy.

>"Surprise" isn't anything new
>essentially boils down to people having such low expectations of the devs they assumed anything hard to implement or out there would be cut, and the surprise is the devs just aren't QUITE as shit as people thought

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faggots ruin everything

>tfw people are going to be saying this unironically on here for the rest of time after the game drops
fuck i can see it now, i hate you people

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...

Who's gonna suck rats next week

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i'm going to suck your mom faggit

Ventrue don't suck on rats.

Are you trying to imply Nosferatu are next?
because LOL

Most likely Malk, would be a nice surprise if it was Nos though

nossies are gonna get blown the fuck out, i can't wait.

The only thing i'm sucking on are those big tiddeys.

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