Kingdom Hearts

There's a beta version of it people could play by hacking it.

No KH3 was ass.

say it with me
E N T I T L E D
F A G G O T

I'll do a normal crit then a level 1. Anyone who says crit level 1 should be done first has no idea how frustrating KH2 crit level 1 got at times. I had to take so many breaks just to cool my head.

The guy depresses me, he thinks he's an expert on video games because he's played KH2 for years

Definitely.

It's either that or some incredibly pathetic faggot fellating an eceleb.

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That version only reduced your HP and MP I believe
Nomura said the team was reprogramming all the enemy AI at least. Not sure what else

>bl00dy
opinion discarded. everyone knows that you're supposed to listen to the other bizkit

Just beat KH1 on proud for the first time, doing a critical run of KH2 right now. I'll get there OP.

Sora, you're already married to Ven.

Leftover data from 0.2

after I do a regular Critical playthrough sure
I just hope its actually a balanced, glass canon mode and not the bullshit they did in DDD and 0.2

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BBS's Critical Mode wasn't very fun either with the secret bosses

Depends on the critical mode rules, hopefully they don't fuck it up by reducing your damage like they did in the first iteration of .02.

reminder that crit mode wont fix shit

No, fuck off

0.2 was my first KH critical playthrough, and I liked it. I'm not even that much of a hardcore gamer and I finished it.

What's so bad about the red highlighted stuff?

Too little too late. I did a 100% run and a level one proud run in the first few weeks and sold it. Was ultimately pretty dissapointed.

What's the purpose of second chance and once more only working in critical situations if you just get one-shotted a lot?

No I don't want to play this shit fucking game again

Will this be the actual Proud Mode difficulty since the Proud Mode in the game was too easy? How far do you think they will scale damage, too much or not enough?

Video Games

Oh I can't wait. I was waiting for it to try 100% this time around

one of the biggest flaws of games worked on by the osaka team is a lack of staggering, to the point where enemies break out after 1-2 hits of an attack
second chance/once more are also abilities that you would get from leveling in the normal games, so level 1 runs would basically be no-hit runs, while regular crit runs would give players a safety net of 1 hit/combo

It's only going to be only a little harder.

Literally why are the two biggest KH e-celebs named bizkit? This can't just be a coincidence.

I'm thinking this one will actually be balanced pretty well since they deliberately held it back from release to work on it.

call me when final mix is out

kh3 combat is broken because combat arenas are too large, no change in critical can fix this

KH2 proud was a joke too. Fags will say I'm wrong but crit saved KH2 and highlighted its mechanics.

is Nomura still workin on the game? I'd assume it'd just be Tai Yasue taking the helm for this and dlc now so Nomura can go work on like the 3 other games square has put him on

They've said multiple times in streams it really is just a coincidence.

Same. The proud playthrough I did may as well have just been for story. If critical is any good, this is where I'm going nuts.

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KH2virgins really are Meleefags.

BBS critical mode was just bad in general. Unless you grind levels you do chip damage at best all game. It gets to the point that using anything that doesn't deal percentage hp damage like poison or magnet feels like a waste of time.

Did they ever patch Elsa to not have the watermark on her

Proud mode has never been hard in KH, save for maybe KH1. KH2 was piss easy before FM came out.

I just found the secret bosses particularly unfun because it was basically "dodge constantly until you see a brief opening" which just wasn't a good time, especially for my poor thumbs

I'm tempted but I've never been particularly great at the Crit/Proud mode stuff. Maybe now that I'm older it'll be easier but when I tried years ago, shit, I got caught on bosses all the time. Not grinding Ultima again though, fuck that noise.

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I'm just going to assume that it's the result of some sort of Berenstein universe melding.

Just the Critical mode or are they adding anything else?

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Yep. I'll actually bother leveling up all the keyblades this time and not just stick to Kingdom Key. Hope it is more challenging this time

fucking B A S E D
keep cope and seeth Osakatrannys

In DDD, if the enemies don't flinch they can attack you through your attacks, leaving you wide open, so its better to just spam or resort to hit and run tactics every fight other wise you'll just die from the over abundance of enemies

This also applies in 0.2 but with the other restrictions as well
Combo Master is super important because Aqua's moves tend to miss a lot, so having it on makes it so she can actually hit enemies that are in the air and stuff
most of the time in 0.2 Critical when you take damage you will die either in 1 or 2 hits, and most of the time you are not put into critical health to activate these abilities which would save you,making it as if you don't have these abilities at all
also not being able to get HP, MP, or Focus drops makes fighting take longer than it should and promotes item spam or hit and run tactics, a lot of enemies are designed with you starting off with a magic they are weak too and then killing them to get more MP orbs to keep the pace up, removing them makes it too difficult to just regularly attack with the sheer number of enemies and the amount of damage they do, so you just have to wait and survive long enough until your MP recharge is done in order to start attacking again

Basically, 0.2 Critical Mode's settings go against what the game wanted of the player in the other modes to try and be more "challenging" when really its just more difficult, takes longer, and is less satisfying when you are restricted in so many things

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Holy shit Nomura, fix your story instead

>watching other people play video games

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BBS crit mode is easier at level 1 because 0 exp skill nulifies enemy defense so you do more damage. Leveling up only increases stats.

Just critical mode. We don't know too many details yet but we can assume critical mode specific abilities will be the only new things added.
Extra story content, bosses and keyblades will probably be the paid DLC Nomura was talking about in interviews a few months ago. E3 announcement most likely

>crit mode tomorrow
>mk11 too
Are they retarded?

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Do you really think this two fanbases overlap?

i dont think those games have the same crowd

Why would MK11 release on the same day as crit mode, seems like a dumb decision.

the synthesis grind this time around, while annoying, is definitely the easiest its ever been. the battle gates typically drop almost everything you'll need between all of them, and you can buy the lower level materials you need

Im hoping other fixes are in the update. Less input lag and a proper 1080p option without having to switch your resolution on a PS4 level. Maybe some minor physics adjustments.

Mouth breathing retards who have no clue about game design or what makes it interesting or fun should be gassed. But instead of being a lazy bait fag try making some counter points to the criticisms of kh3.

The Critical Mode is a free update. There will be more (paid) DLC in the future. Probably released in one go.

the dlc is free though

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Are they going to fix the shitty framerate?

Critical mode isn't going to solve the complete lack of fun bosses

People have being complaining ever since the game came out, considering it's been 3 months since release, we can only hope they will fix some things.

jesus christ the data org fights are so much more fun then literally anything in kh3. Hopefully they add something similar as dlc

Critical is the free DLC update. They're apparently working on another paid DLC update which will be released later on this year but we don't know what exactly is in this yet. All we know is that Nomura didn't want to do a bunch of scattered post launch updates but rather one big one.

What shitty framerate?

I bought the game day one and dropped it after Hercules flung me on that statue.

Now that this mode is coming out, which is supposed to be harder because damn, I might actually play the damn game.

BASED NOMURA FUCKING FINALLY . I’m really hyped because they actually took their time with this Critical Mode and gave it extra love .

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How do you know this?

I'll playthrough it when the DLC comes out.

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Because Stone Cold said so.

Because it wasn’t released at launch. They took a few extra months to perfect it instead of just rushing out a Critical Mode at launch. They took their time to balance everything out and add some things.

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ok Yea Forums: mage, warrior or guardian?
I think warrior is the "canon", because Donald is the mage and goofy the guardian, and I'm going to 100%this time.

Based

I've gone Mage in all 3 games. Magic is awesome. I have no idea why people say the magic in KH games is shit when it's actually pretty powerful and can be utilised really well.

mage will make critical mode a fukin cake walk unless they balance magic in the update

Nice. I already get nostalgic over this game for some reason. A reason to play through it again is always good.

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>Just realized I'm gonna have to redo the Flantastic Seven
Noooooooo

Hope they add sephiroth in the future

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Im specifically not picking mage because I know how hard magic breaks the game. Kind of what happens when all your spells are offensive without any pure utility ones.

>Having to replay Frozen Slider 10 times
Fuck this

Don't pick Guardian either, second chance at level 4 is pretty broken

I never found the Frozen Slider bad. Especially because you get wellspring items from it.

Flantastic Seven is not so bad but FUCK THAT FROZEN SLIDER AND FUCK THE GUMMI SHIT

i hope critical mode removes attractions

yeah, i miss spells like magnega and kh1's version of aero, adds a lot more strategy then just spam fire from the other side of the arena

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That shit'll never happen. They wrote out all the FF characters.

This.
If anything Mushroom XIII is worse, because of Mushroom 8 alone.

Autism hive mind.

they're not

One is the heartless and the other is the nobody

They had models for Squall and other FF characters though .

>finally reach the 80s with my combo
>mushroom instantly flies across the map to the other side every damn time

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Actually it was only for Leon.

Based
Fpbp
/thread

This. People love to bitch about the Flan but the Mushroom XIII are far far worse. But people will never say this because that means you are criticizing KH 2 Final Mix and we can’t do that because KH 2 FM is a perfect game remember

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I actually loved KH3 but I'm certainly not doing another playthrough so soon, once all the dlc is out and a good amount of time has passed I will do a full critical mode playthrough.

That came out sooner than expected. I’ll definitely give it a shot.

Is critical mode going to fix fire spam?

New skills that make gameplay more "technical", new enemy AI

I will, but I'm not convinced it will fix all the issues this game has.

>Mushroom flies out of combo at 83.
Never again

I honestly don't even feel like replaying the game. I won't until there's actually extra content.

>10 times
You can get multiple prizes in one run though.

>first playthrough
>critical mode
>terra vs. mysterious figure
>30 minutes in, barely kept myself alive using thunder surge+curaga spam
>catches me in a combo
>one of his combo strikes doesn't hit, which means the next combo strike instantly kills you without a chance to heal
>mfw

all those superbosses must have taken me at least a week with all the characters. thank god aqua is so ridiculously overpowered

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Where's the patch notes? They said they added new moves to critical mode, it better fix the current absolute garbage moves like magic flash.

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Re:Coded's critical sucked too

>Is critical mode going to fi-
No.

We probably won't get them until the patch releases.

Re:Coded's kinda weird since you can change difficulty at any time
the base gameplay in Re:Coded isn't that bad on critical, even if it's just a very boring x0.5 damage dealt/x2 damage taken, but I really hate it in all those fucking mini-games where you can't cure or use any of your commands, pain in the ass
Re:Coded's difficulty does change what commands you get as drops from enemies and as rewards for completing worlds though, so playing on critical mode would mean you get more powerful commands earlier than on other difficulties

I bet it won't.

This guy is obnoxious as fuck. The other Bizkit is way more tolerable and he actually offers criticism that would improve the game rather than just going “lol 2FM is better”

I wonder if they'll actually lower Max MP like in 0.2
would probably make people rely on Links even more

Based.

Hi Barry, I see you are still ban evading and parroting an e-celeb

>Critical mode releases tomorrow. you ARE going to do a level 1 playthrough right?
Critical? Yes.
Level 1? Not right away. I learned from 2 Critical, a level 1 run as a first critical run is a bad idea.

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i cant imagine the torture of going through this garbage more than once.

fpbp

Which Bizkit is the good one? I unironically thought they were the same

Biz is a faggot for damage controlling for KH3.
He thinks the soundtrack was good lmao...get the fuck out of here.

Can I switch to critical mid playthrough or am I stuck on babby mode proud?

>You can get multiple prizes in one run though.

Is there a guide for the most efficient Frozen Slider runs?

>Waiting for a trash game for 13 years makes one Entitled
Osakafags not even once.

KH2 Vanilla was good even if it was easy because unlike KH3 it was a high quality polished fun game.
The physics were good, the animations spot-on etc.

>He didn't even know about the KH games after 2
You are indeed entitled.

Stuck

I went guardian, so I'll go warrior this time because I have a feeling magic will be heavily nerfed

>bl00dy
tell you the things like are
>Marluxia one
Basically damage control so he can be ok with square

lol retard

When people bring up the "We waited 13 years for this" when bitching about KH3, they are just shitposting

I went Warrior first run. Might go mage for Critical because of how OP magic is in 3.

Well shit, I’ve been looking for an excuse to finish the game but I just lost all interest after starting pirates.

Except people bash Mushroom XIII all the time you dumb fucking fanboy. Fuck off with your victim complex

Already traded the game in. I don’t give a gilded shit

They were all trash too.

Nah

And yet, here you are giving a shit.

This. Maybe I’ll rebuy it after the DLC is released, doubt it though.

They're not shitposting you piece of shit.
Look at the fucking sales. Even though KH3 is a piece of shit it sold gangbusters compared to the shitty handheld titles that nobody wanted.
Everybody was waiting for the next numbered KH since 2005.

And enough with the entitled shit. Unless you're getting shit for free you can never be entitled, period.

Based.

After homestuck epilogue I am overly cynical about everything. People work that I love just keep dissapoint me, why this would be different.

Post yfw KH3 Critical Mode is good

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Trash.

Bizkit047 or whatever it is.

imagine being this poor

The amount of samefagging ITT is disgusting.

No, not until they fix the story.

I get tired of seeing the faggot's face

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>because KH 2 FM is a perfect game remember

Just like what said. KH2FM had flaws but fanboys refuse to admit it

I hope it's harder than Proud and the EXP you get is cut in half.

This but unironically

>wasting your money on this and having a different opinion than yours is entitlement
Nice try autist

Why did you have hope with the way Act 7 was turning out, I'm shocked your expectations wheren't lower.

Of course I will give my favorite game of all time another play-through. I love Kingdom Hearts III.

years of wait
>>Saying Osakashit or a YouTuber was right
>>Comparing the game with other, specially with THAT game.
These are the easiest ways to know if a comment is shitposting or not.

Kingdom Hearts 3 is the Duke Nukem Forever of its franchise.

Even he had good things to say about KH3

KH3 is a 7/10

Not amazing for it's franchise, but not exactly a horrible game.

As someone who isn't a big KH fan and only did critical mode in KH2, I had no idea it was so fucking terrible in every other game. They completely missed the point of the mode.

Flan 7 are way less troublesome then Mushroom XII, but Mushroom XII are only needed for some synth items, a usless keyblade and the final crown. You need the flan 7 to get ultima. Mushroom XII do test your character from a gameplay perspective rather then some minigame, the only one that is overly bullshit is the one you got to hit 99 times.

Pretty much this.

Is it me or even with critical mode the game will still be easy? The fucking game gives you so many flashy combat shit that makes everything way too fucking easy. The only time I thought the game was somewhat difficult was the ending. But everything else was piss poor easy

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We won't know until it releases tomorrow.

>Even he had good things to say about KH3

which shitposters ignore because it doesn't align with their narrative

>The fucking game gives you so many flashy combat shit that makes everything way too fucking easy.
Maybe the new harder mode will (gasp) give you less things

Going to wait until the new content update so I don't have to play this game any more than I have to

>trading in a shit game you have no interest in playing again means you’re poor
Maybe if KH3 had literally ANYTHING to offer I’ll let it collect dust on a shelf, as it stands, KH3 isn’t even worth collecting dust.

KH2 is just about as easy on non critical modes. I can see critical mode being more frustrating since there are more enemies in battle then there were before, you could get sniped by something off screen. The rides are logically the counter to getting swarmed but they are no fun.

im gay

that's good

>Maybe the new harder mode will (gasp) give you less things

>Critical mode
>FEWER combat options
yawn

You are poor. Throw it out if you care that little.

I'd like to ask you the same thing

And you need to get the gold crown in order to unlock the Birth by sleep secret ending in KH 2 FM so you are forced to do the Mushrooms.

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They were low as fuck but I didnt expect hussie to laugh at me for having a special place in my heart for homestuck
>Look at that faggot having sincere opinions about something IN FUCKING 2019
>Didnt you knew I never liked homestuck in the first place? It was an ironic joke to make fun of people lmao
I dont know why but that broke something of the teen thats still inside me.

At least Nomura wont make fun of me for liking his work, only dissappoint me.

(Gasp) even critical mode in other KH games weren't as bad if you're not a mongoloid. Especially if you can dodge and use reflect like a madman

You just said there were too many. Make up your mind, retard.

So are the rest of us. This is a KH thread.

Do you actually need to watch that ending? It doesn't do anything in the gameplay, its just a checkmark on what ever completion goal.

You can't expect shitposters to keep up with their own bullshit now can you.

...Ok? What's your point? Kinda fucking random to say that

No I didn't.

>tfw play both of those games

It’s an abstract kind of feel

>He doesn't even know what he said
Sad

What the fuck, I didn't even see the epilogue. That's disheartening to hear.

God that world sucks. It's almost entirely filler. I don't know what they were thinking. It almost exists just for the cutscenes.

Convince me to get into this series
Ive been tempted to do it several times but whats keeping me at bay its the inhuman levels of cringe i seem to encounter every time i open a video and a cutscene plays

How do you guys do it? I just cant get over it, i instantly lose all interest
Its a shame because the combat looks good but am i really going to play like 8 story heavy rpgs and skip every dialog?

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will exp zero give you damage scaling? if so, then it's just another meme.

The story is campy and fun. If you don't enjoy it then this series isn't for you

This is me This is not me What makes critical mode good is have more options available earlier. If the abilities the game provides are too powerful for critical mode to still provide a challenge because of them, they should be rebalanced. If they opt to give you fewer things then they should give up on calling their new meme mode "critical".

Homestuck turned into a monstrosity over time, it became clear to me that it would only end in disappointment long ago when the trolls appeared

You're never going to like it if you didn't grow up with it.

Exp 0 have you damage scaling in KH2 I believe and it was still harder than non exp 0. Mostly due to lack of second chance and once more

KH3 is a good game and no matter how much haters ree it won't change that fact.

The cringe is half the fun for a lot of fans.
It does have some legit good story beat, but it is buried under layers of cringe.
youtube.com/watch?v=d-ae06Z1NcM

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>Jumps into the middle of an argument
>Acts shocked when people make assumptions
user it's not charming when you pretend to be retarded. And that comment was brought up because the other guy DID want less options, so quit being fucking stupid already

Just play the first two console games(Final Mix) and ignore the rest of the series.

If you can't embrace the cringe, then it's probably gonna be difficult to enjoy the story.

>i dont think it will be hard
>let me express this in 4 sentences instead of one

>Its a shame because the combat looks good but am i really going to play like 8 story heavy rpgs and skip every dialog?
If you're interested in the combat, why not?

>Acts shocked
When? You made a simple mistake and I corrected you.

No, he wanted the options not to be broken.

If you want to see Hussie at its lowest go read it.

I bought the game day one but still haven't put it in, glad my first playthrough will be with a more complete version.

It's just barry and the typical crowd of contrarian shitposters hyped titles get. Never any arguments outside why it's bad, just MUH SOUL, SOULLESS garbage.

Nope, I'll wait for the DLC

>implying Hussie even wrote it

That's a different user you fucking dingus

I can already feel someone searching their files for the Roxas webm

This so much. Is KH 3 a masterpiece? No. Does it have flaws? Yes but it’s still a damn good game. Easily a 8/10 game. It’s Bazztek and the loud minority vocal cunts who want every new hyped game to bomb.

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It's not nearly as cringe as committee-approved jokes in superhero movies and every AAA western game.

When light, darkness, heart, connections, etc are mentioned, it's not metaphorical shit high schools say on facebook, they are real tangible parts of the universe that they are referring to.

Sure the story is convoluted, but doesn't stop anyone from sinking into Metal Gear, Resident Evil, Marvel Universe, or any given TV series. Yet people want to bitch when it comes to this because they have immature minds that associate Disney and color with children? How insecure to do you have to be to run away from color and play brown/gray games where you shoot zombies yet again?

Like any story, the draw is the characters, in KH as well. All the excitement of KH3 was about seeing all the characters together and reunited again.

It's gonna be harder not have more content.

And I corrected you back?
Ok, I was responding to another user who said there were too many options. So that user was dumb
Then why did he jump into the middle of a discussion with a stupid comment?

It was enjoyable to play. I feel the story was messy. I did find it easy, but I think that comes from having played all the previous KH games. And that's probably the case for most people comiplaining it's easy.

Objectively correct
KH2 > KH1 > CoM >= Re:Coded > DDD >>>> BBS >> 0.2 > KH3 > Days

Dang I just realized their Eye Colors represent their elements
Sora = Air = Sky Blue
Kairi = Water = Deep Blue
Riku = Earth = Forest Green

I grew up on nintendo consoles, finally emulated the series down the line and still enjoyed it.

I don't even mind, considering that KH3 is the best-selling KH game ever. And it's not even six months old yet.

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Do what I do, ignore the cheesy (the Disney part for the most part) and what is left is a wild ride, then you have great gameplay, incredible music and one of the most beautiful games.

Why does everyone keep using that shitty old render of Sora?

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damage scaling?

>KH3 Kairi

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Dude just play Kingdom Hearts 1. If you like it, then sure. If you're the kind of person who can't watch cartoons anymore however then yeah maybe give it a pass

Why can’t you accept KH2 is better than KH3?

How should I know? I don't control with what these anons say or do

It's precisely the fact that it's so stupid, it kind of comes out being charming.
If you just want cool gameplay, play 2FM.

I genuinely dont understand how someone could have grown up with the series and not been massively disappointed with 3. I mean it's not awful but it was such a personal let down in so many ways

On level 1 runs the higher the enemy level of a world / boss is you deal slightly more damage so you’re just not left dealing chip damage.

Critical is usually easier than Proud, and Proud in this game sucked. I won't be touching the game again until final mix DLC drops desu.

>start KH1FM Proud level 1 playthrough
>being two shot by trash mobs, can't even do basic shit like guard or see enemies' HP
>donald and goofy are KO'd 99% of the time
>get absolutely filtered by pot centipede and his shitty fucking hitboxes, not fun at all
>disable zero exp
>gaining fun abilities, like the ground finisher that scales off your MP (where before I would never use ground combos because they were too slow and committal)
>underleveled, so there's still a decent challenge
>fuck atlantis though. what a dog shit level.

How does KH2 level 1 crit compare? also, does chain of memories have any kind of equivalent difficulty option?

>slightly
You may as well be level 99 with exp zero on

Most people who “like” KH3 don’t really like it, you’ll come to understand that the more you post. People only defend it, but that doesn’t mean they like it. Everyone agrees it was a disappointment and it’s ridiculous that a game which was in development for 7-13 years needs mandatory DLC immediately after its release.

I personally didn't like the fact that the secret ending and epilogue hint at MORE for KH.

I just wanted it to end the series.

or a good comparison would be:
KH1/CoM/2 = SW Original Trilogy
BBS/X-unchained = SW Prequel trilogy
DDD/3 = SW episodes 7 and 8
358/2 & RE:Coded = Solo and Rogue One

If you're the ind of person who can watch and enjoy Disney movies as an adult, then yeah. I think you'd unironically enjoy it. Just take the story with a grain of salt and have fun. If you need your games to be super serious though, then yeah maybe give Kingdom Hearts a skip.
Personally I just like how seriously Nomura takes the plot, I've genuinely liked the story since the beginning

I don't think you want to spend any more time with CoM than you absolutely have to.

That’s KH1, not KH2. Even then it’s not that much of a game changer in the grand scale of things, it just makes stuff for manageable for those playing on lvl 1 crit.

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Even that faggot Bl00dyBitchin is hyped for Critical Mode which just goes to show that people who bitch about KH 3 endlessly are tsundere as fuck and will never drop this series

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Story was shit, but that's been the case since bbs. Gameplay was enjoyable but easy. However, going back and replaying the previous games, they aren't as hard as I remembered.

Objectively shitpost.
I fucking hate that mentality, or something is a 10/10 or 0/10 blunder of the year, all the recent triple A (apart from fallout and anthem) are a minimum 5-6/10 because they play decently, sound and look decently, but they're nothing new or especial.

>brings up 13 years

See

That was the big hitter to me. This is supposed to end the 'saga' of it being based around Xehanort, but instead it just ends on cliffhangers to set up the next arc instead.
It could have ended exactly like how II did where you see them all happy back home on the islands and Sora, Kairi, and Riku are all okay and what do you know, they get another letter from Mickey that would set up the next arc.

Why is the gameplay in 2 considered to be the best of the three?
I see this posted a lot
Obviously i can see that 1's combat is more rudimentary, but is 3 really that inferior to 2?
I havent played the games so i cant tell by just looking at it, but at first glance it seemed to me that 3's combat was just 2, but better

please elaborate, did they dumb down the systems? is it hold X to win now?

KH2's level 1 play through is the best pure gameplay experience in the series. You get all your important moves (like blocking and new special attacks) from other forms of progression besides leveling so you're never gimped like in KH1, but you also are never strong enough to brute force your way through so it's consistently challenging.

CoM doesn't have a level 1 option to my knowledge but it does let you choose your bonus upon leveling up so you could approximate it by never leveling HP

2 is super responsive and has satisfying hitstun, it's extremely polished

3 is really floaty in comparison

Was that your first time playing 1 FM? Level 1 is something you do after being familiar with the game, it's very similiar in 2. CoM doesn't have that because you're forced to put your points into something when you level up, you could just put your points into Deck Power and set a limit of cards.

kh2 has DUAL WIELD which turns you into a super saiyan marvel vs capcom character

>guy who loves a series wants to like the newest entry but can't due to numerous flaws, so he wants to see Square fix it
wow
woah

KH3 was speculated since KH2 was released, and Nomura has stated in multiple interviews that its coming. People HAVE been waiting, maybe just not you newfag zoomer.

>Sora = Air = Sky Blue
>Riku = Earth = Forest Green
are you retarded user? everyone knows air/wind = green and earth = brown. see: terra, ventus and aqua

2 has a ton of variety tied with really solid, snappy combat and a post game with 15 really fun, unique super bosses

3 ice comparison is pretty sluggish and floaty and you have so many flashy cutscene attacks that you're rarely even hitting stuff with your keyblade. That tied with having a absolutely no fun bosses kills it for me

Final mix might fix the lack of bosses, but I dont know if it can fix the combat

>but is 3 really that inferior to 2?
2FM and 3 are just different in the way they do combat. KH2FM is a little more focused on one-on-one encounters, while KH3 is more about group battles.

>floaty
which other games have this feel?
Just to know exactly what you mean

>having a absolutely no fun bosses
Gross opinion, I thought almost every world had great boss fights

KH2 ending was kino. Yes, there was a cliffhanger but it wasn't overly sequelbait. It was a vague cliffhanger. They could have ended KH there and no one would have complained.

But now you've waited like 100 years since the last numbered KH game, and they go, see you until the next game. xD At least switch to a different cast.

oh i see, 3 goes the way of the musou a bit too much?
I think i would enjoy 2 more if thats the case

I'll get shit for this comparison but it's like going from smash melee to brawl

I dont play a ton of action games so I'm not sure what a good comparison would be

>having to use petty insults like "zoomer"

grow up.

The KH0.2 game in the KH2.8 collection has the most floaty combat of the series

Do people seriously think KH3, a game with shit gameplay, a terribly rushed story, and a baffling lack of content and cut content, is good?

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>a bit too much?
I don't think so, I enjoyed KH3's combat

Can’t wait to hear him constantly complain about it but never actually make a video explaining what he dislikes about it

Only zoomers find the word zoomer to be insulting.
>People have been waiting 13 years
>nuh uh!
>Nomura in multiple interviews after KH2’s release brought up KH3
>GROW UP!
I accept your concession

why did Xehanort get away with everything and literally just smiled in Sora's face before floating up to heaven not even saying sorry?

And you have shit taste, what exactly is that supposed to prove?

curse of darkness, yoshi in smash, many garbage action JRPGs like tales

No, they just think they have to counter shitpost against Barry as hard and autistically as he does.

Why are people so angry in this thread?

They can’t accept KH3 is bad. Denial usually leads in to anger.

No, I have the correct opinion. You just think that because your opinions are shit.

I liked the card system the first time I played recom years ago but didn't get far in Riku mode. I want to do it. Plus going off the wiki there's way more sleights than I was using.

I was sold when I heard that drive forms still level up, but how does the difficulty compare to KH1FM?

It was my third playthrough and second time on Proud, though it has been a while. It took me like two hours to beat the asshole trio on destiny islands. Can you believe there are people who grind to level 99 there?

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KH3 left a sour taste in my mouth. Not gonna bother.

you're on Yea Forums

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Half of them were shitty minigame gimmicks. I was so disappointed when the story hyped up baymax and it ended up being a shitty shmup segment. Theres also absolutely no humanoid 1 on 1 fights until the very end of the game. You literally only have Davy Jones until the final area

Also sucks that you dont fight any Disney villains, they're all giant heartless fights

And dont get me started on tjatbstuoid fucking heartless tornado and forcing it on you three fucking times. Then they completely neutered the dark aqua fight

Then when you do get some humanoid bosses at the end, they're all clumped together so you can't properly enjoy the mechanics

Disappointing all around. What would have gone a long way into making it better would be if you fought the org members that showed up in each world instead of them just being in a cutscene and then fucking off. Let me fight them jesus christ

Unfortunately most KH fans on Yea Forums are retards who don't just ignore and report his shitposting rampages. One of the reasons KH threads are mainly unbrowsable.

KH threads have one very dedicated shitposter who will spend entire days dedicated to derailing them. See above reply.

KH1 and ReCoM Prouds were ez peasy as my very first runs. Go with critical for 2?

Because he still died

>>Nomura in multiple interviews after KH2’s release brought up KH3
If you actually read those interviews you just mentioned you would know that everytime KH3 was mentioned he answered he wasn't planning on making it for the time being.

>tjatbstuoid
Whoa

FUCKING BASED

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Yes.

For sure. I mean, even if you're having trouble you can level up.

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Literally only 1 (one) interview is like that. And thats because he intended to make 3 spin-offs (some of which were already in development) before KH3. To say people weren’t waiting 13 years for it is autistic and rewriting history.

>how does the difficulty compare to KH1FM?
It's still pretty hard, but I would say it's more fun-hard instead of frustrating

Remove amusement park
Have less enemies in every battle. Yes thats a valid complaint since the enemies feel dumber than past games so maybe lower the amount and make them smarter.
What else should they change?

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>Also sucks that you dont fight any Disney villains
>Ignoring the titans and Marshmallow's fights
Ok

Olympus was the best world in the game and then it was all downhill from there

I saw it Like a bargain, master xehanort has unlimited power but he's old and tired of all the fighting, and sora and the crew needs to stop him, he stopped doing DARKNESS and they let it go and finally die.

>Half of them were shitty minigame gimmicks.
Baymax fight and the ship combat part of Pirates, what else was there? And that Baymax one is pretty arguable.

>Frozen doesn't count because

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How is baymax arguable?

Holy shit Barry you keep posting this webm like its a bad thing. Roxas is SUPPOSE to be OP in this fight. It's a narrative choice you fucking retarded. Even Bizkit had to point that out to retards like you who don't understand that it's suppose to be a squash fight (like in Final Fantasy fights where you are suppose to lose or if you have an OP party member like Sephiroth or Seymour)

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Honestly, besides the damage/stat scaling, what a Critical Mode really needs are rejiggered battle compositions. A lot of things in KH3 are just mob spam as you nuke your way through crowds to the bigger foes; battles need to be rescaled if you're suddenly going to make Sora a delicate little turd baby who hits like a truck, because otherwise you're just playing the same game but you die faster. Also Attraction Flow are borderline free nukes per minute, need more limitations and shit to avoid giving the player an easy out in every single encounter.

Because you fucking fight him, there's no minigame involved? At least with the ship combat it's radically different.

This

Not him but half the fight is a shooting section and the other half is meme combat on baymax

>there's no minigame involved?
When? As far as I remember you dont fight him beyond the shmup thing, which is the shitty part I'm talking about. Unless I completely missed something

Fucking this! Holy shit its almost musou levels of braindead combat

You do fight him beyond the shmup thing.
And even so, that's one boss battle in the game, not half of them.
I still wanna know how half of the boss battles in KH3 had shitty minigame gimmicks

>Roxas is SUPPOSE to be OP in this fight
Then why did they nerf him in critical and not make it apparent that this was “intentional”? Just because you want to believe something doesn’t mean it’s true. Was Ultimate Weapon supposed to be this busted? Attractions? Magic?

They won’t do this. Osaka Team can’t make good games.

>Then why did they nerf him in critical
Critical isn't in the game yet, dummy
>Why was he nerfed in the unofficial patched-in version of Critical
Stop pretending to be retarded

And in none of the other interviews at the time did he talk about making kh3 soon.
You're rewriting history in the most literal by saying that he was already planning kh3 during those times.

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bl00dy actually praised this fight too, it's supposed to be a curbstomp. Further backed up with the fact that Roxas already beat his ass once without help.

that's how critical is. you're just easier to kill, you don't lose any killing power at all.

>You do fight him beyond the shmup thing.
As far as I remember you're always riding baymax the entire fight and you never get to use any if the games core mechanics. It's a shitty fight because of it

Isn't that, even you ignore him, he samefags, and if you report him, he ban evades.
pic is proof of that, he got banned more than 13 times on a day, and he continued to shitpost, even mods got tired of banning him.

Most of it was negative.
He likes KH3 as a casual game but it's obvious he hates it as a hardcore game.
The more he streamed KH3 the less he seemed to like it.

Got em

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>Nomura brings up KH3
>Says it’ll happen
>”PEOPLE WERENT WAITING 13 YEARS!”

That's not true.
youtube.com/watch?v=Yhg9t-Pl9Go
You'd know this if you simply looked up anything for the fight.

>Then why did they nerf him in critical and not make it apparent that this was “intentional”?
CRITICAL MODE ISN'T EVEN OUT YET YOU FUCKING RETARD . Yeah I'm no longer putting any more energy into this. You are just wanting to shitpost and you don't care how dumb you look

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>still parroting the Barry meme
top fucking kek

samefag

Wow you’re retarded.

It's only tumblrites and faggot casuals who aren't passionate about video games that like 3.

The game is shit, plain and simple.

user, where do you leave Baymax's back in that entire fight?

So damage control = liking something in the game ? Are you retarded?

He's being critical of it, everything he talks about are things that NEED or CAN be fixed. He even says that a lot of broken mechanics he doesn't want to see removed, but actually fixed or altered because while they're broken, they can bring interesting things to the game mechanically.
Nobody who's played KH3 thinks it's a great game it has obvious flaws you dumb nig, but it's not a complete dumpster fire like XV was and is not THAT much worse than base KH2.
The fags that keep spamming it's a shitty game with shit mechanics are like DS2 players that spammed DS3 was bad or DS3 players saying Sekiro was garbage or BB, or P5 was worse than P4 and P3.
It's just a bait argument.

Since this is the Kingdom Hearts thread, is there anyone else here that liked CoM on GBA but absolutely can't stand the 3D version? I think it has to do with how the game was created with the hardware limitations of GBA dictating it's design. Like having to go into a separate battle area for fights, the entire card system was there to add depth because it would be too simplistic if it was just action based with the few buttons a GBA has. Is it just me?

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>It's precisely the fact that it's so stupid, it kind of comes out being charming.
Only if you're autistic.
KH1 and KH2 had this to some extent sometimes I suppose but the rest of the series is just soulless extension after soulless extension.

I hope they give you the option to turn off attractions and make the other super moves into Limits that eat your full MP gauge. The floaty shit is good since you're able to block attacks in the air now so there's zero issues for me outside of the attractions.

>Implying that 3's gameplay is better than 1's
Neck yourself Osakashill.

Hey Barry remember that Sora is Smash thread a few nights ago and you got caught samefagging and literally 1/4 of the threads post got deleted? That should prove right there how pathetic your life is

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KH3 magic spam reminds me of Vegeta spamming shitty ki blasts.

L
The only time he mentioned KH3 was when he was asked when it would happeb and his response was that he wasn't planning on making it for the tine and shouldn't expect it too soon.
There is a difference between waiting a long time for a game that isn't even planned to be made yet and waiting for a game that is already announced and revealed.

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I'm looking at the ability list now and most of the good stuff is given based on progression. kick ass.

Tips for Crit lv1:

>Pick up the Cufflink accessories (immediate access to -Za magic) in the first few worlds.
>The best keyblades are Ever After, Hero's Origin, Shooting Star and Ultima. Ultima has the best passive abilities, stats, a top 2 Shotlock, the best overall transformation Finisher, and Ultimate Form is the best overall standard 'mash X' transformation. Ever After offers Aero Boost and Aeroza, its Shotlock is basically as strong as Ultima's while trading AoE for lock on distance, the combo string is very strong with the potential to outdamage Ultimate Form on very large enemies. Afterimage shots are a high hitstun high hitcount ranged attack that can deal great damage depending on the enemy. Arrowguns are a high hitcount, spammable ranged attack with a good modifier for the finisher. Very high hitcount attacks are notable since no attack can deal less than 1 damage per hit, which makes them stronger at Lv 1 where your stats are shit. Shield guard is braindead and the counter attack is one of the strongest attacks when fully powered up.
>Mickey Clasp+Flanniversary Badge+Element Form from Mirage Staff/Double Arrowguns lets you spam magic forever (do all lucky emblems to get the setup). Start by casting regular Fire 15 times to hit the 1 MP per spell point sooner for tons of additional casts. youtube.com/watch?v=JmKhl1YFa_w
>Simba, Ralph and Ariel are all really good, Ralph and Ariel can devastate bosses while Simba is a pretty brainless mob killer. youtube.com/watch?v=VJNekt3494w
>You can get your Keyblade Transformations back after a Game Over by selecting 'Continue' instead of 'Retry' and running back into the fight.
>Aero is ass. When in doubt against single targets use Fire. Thunder is your mob nuke, Water starts great but gets less and less useful as you go on, and becomes useless when you get Ariel.
>About the only thing that deals decent damage to Lump of Horror in his normal state are Mirage Staff afterimage shots.

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>Uh user you only shoot at him the whole time
>No, you fight him right here
user you moved the goalposts right here, when you realized that it WASN'T just a shmup. And you do get to use the game's core mechanics by battling him with your keyblade.

Please stop pretending to be retarded, really it's kinda sad

Technically KH2FM Critical gives to 1.25x more damage dealt to enemies, so besides your long-term stat gains being lower than other modes, it's arguably easier than Proud. But my point is that if the KH3 Critical is just "you take more damage", then the game's mode's intent is already floundered because increasing the damage amount doesn't actually make the game that much harder with how many damage reduction abilities and borderline screen nukes you get, not to mention the fights are as put it, mindless shit that isn't really that difficult.

KH1? A few tricky enemy types and bosses. KH2? We all remember Demyx and Xaldin. KH3? When Proud Mode is a walk in the park already because of how overpowered Sora is and how simplistic the bosses are while weakly pretending that basic mob spam does something, you've got a severe problem that a basic damage scaling Critical Mode can't fix.

>KH3 is more about group battles.
It's a crappy musou game, don't sugarcoat it.

I disagree.

A combination of nostalgia and a suspension of disbelief. Seeing as it's a game by Disney, things like death and swords are a major no no, so it's understandable why it is how it is, and I genuinly found enjoyment out of all the weird ways they have have had to come up with alternative forms of death (hearts) and weapons (a giant metal pipe key) and such to get by. It's a ride of retardation, but it's my ride of retardation.

the barry meme is unironically true though
there have been multiple threads where fucktons of replies got deleted because of ban evasion

He explained it on his streams already.

>And you do get to use the game's core mechanics by battling him with your keyblade.
Fucking where you idiot? You're stuck on Baymax using his limit the whole battle.

Plus there's stuff like the DMC5/KH3 fiasco

too late already got rid of the game. maybe in a year or two

CoM and ReCoM had a couple of differences that are minor to some people, but completely make or break the game for others

personally I like the sprite work a lot more

>Literally let my friend borrow my copy yesterday because i thought this was going to take a little longer to come out

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The second half of the fight linked.
Also don't think I forgot the fact that you claimed half the boss battled are gimmicky minigames when you can barely prove 2 are

>They could have ended KH there and no one would have complained.
Bullshit and you know it.
Everybody would be crying about Sora and Kairi being unresolved, Xehanort, what the fuck is Kingdom Hearts?(which we still don't fucking know) etc.

>The second half of the fight
Dude, you're stuck in intercept jet mode the entire fight. You can't even guard or dodge and you just shoot fucking sparkles at him the whole time.

don't forget that he also shit up some indie threads too like baba is you and risk of rain

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>Yes, there was a cliffhanger but it wasn't overly sequelbait.
I'd love to hear the reasoning why the BBS teaser wasn't overly sequelbait. Like, I'm genuinely curious.

Thank but I will wait for the Final Mix Deluxe over 356/2 version before I will play it again.

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The original GBA game's style and design lends to its charm. Card system? You don't have four shoulder buttons, but then enemies aren't that difficult to hit thanks to small screen estate. World by world design with a room focus? It's great for a portable game, despite being lite-KH1 in world design. The bosses also get to be ruthlessly difficult because of the limitations. The remake on the other hand is a lot more bland, and your more open combat spaces make it both annoying to target foes as well as too easy to evade most shit. Turning 3D basically genericified the game into looking just like a KH1 retread with Castle Oblivion and the Org on top, and broke the combat.

To be honest this was the one thing KH3 did right.
Acknowledge that Roxas is fucking badass. The rest can go die in a fire.

>Sora and Kairi being unresolved
It wasn't though? Sora found the drawing and realized she loved him back.
>Xehanort,
What about him? He died, both Heartless and Nobody.
>what the fuck is Kingdom Hearts?
The heart of all things, that's all it's ever been and that's all it still is. They repeat this in every fucking game.

Because secret endings are just non canon concept videos.

You're still fighting on Baymax's back, in a confined arena. Heck, during the Toy Story world you briefly don't fight with a keyblade too but nobody's claiming that "isn't core gameplay"
Also you can't even name one other fight in the game that's even kind of a gimmicky minigame can you

They could have done that by letting you play as him. Having the game play itself is not fun in the slightest.

>It's not sequelbait, even thought the secret movie in KH1 was directly sequelbait
So you're saying that if the game would have just ended there people would have said "well that BBS stuff was just for a future unreleased game, oh well!" and not care?
That's fucking retarded

>everything he talks about are things that NEED or CAN be fixed.
Nope. He said that a CM mode will not fix the game.
Just because he's hyped for it on twitter doesn't mean anything since he was hyped playing KH3 for the first time despite being negative towards it for years. Even if he's negative towards at the end of the day he's a fan and he will get hyped when a new KH game comes out, doesn't mean he will like it or play it for a very long time.

He said that the arenas being huge and the emphasis being on using OP super moves to clear large crowds is a huge problem with the game that cannot be fixed because this is what Osaka's vision for the series is and he's correct.

user you're still playing the game. You're only not playing if you chose to stop playing for that part. Are you dumb?

Most average players wouldn't care that Roxas is kicking Saix's shit in and join in on the fight, which would make it a Sora / Roxas tag team battle with Xion awkwardly twiddling her thumbs on the side. You still have to finish Saix off yourselff, too. Why do you focus so much on Roxas' damage output?

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you retards do realize theyre releasing balance and qol changes along with the critical mode patch, right?

>You're still fighting on Baymax's back
Yes, that's exactly the fucking problem people have been trying to explain to you. Being forced to use a limit for a small sequence between forms where you're actually fighting bosses is different than being stuck in a limit for the whole fight.

I wish we could play as Roxas in that segment.
Why do these faggots Aqua and Riku get to be playable but not best boy Roxas?

Can't wait to get one-shot from one random enemy of the 30 surrounding me in mob fight: the game if I don't abuse attractions and summons

>even thought the secret movie in KH1 was directly sequelbait
No, it fucking wasn't. Nomura could have scrapped everything from Another Side if he wanted to because it was always just a concept video, same with BBS.

Yeah I was about to say even Bl00dyBitchin who Barry/Bazztek worships and will suck his dick on sight says this was suppose to be that way and he liked this choice. Why he keeps posting that to shitpost is beyond me. Everybody can see it's suppose to be a fucking obliteration fight but him

Canonically, Roxas is one of the strongest characters in the series and at that point Roxas was pissed because Xion and Axel almost got killed, not to mention, he's currently the only character in the series how can dual wield naturally and he never lost any of his powers. Saix was suppose to stand zero chance at all against Roxas

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>Yes, that's exactly the fucking problem people have been trying to explain to you.
No, this has been a huge misdirection because you've been deflecting from the main question I've been asking.
The claim was that half of the boss battles in this game were gimmicky minigames. But so far there's just been the one battle that's arguable. Are you ever going to give a second example or these gimmicks, or are you just going to ignore that more?

It's funny really, he only kept a handful of Another Side's signature bits and tossed out everything else for KH2, and then basically repurposed everything but Adult Kairi and Mickey into Days anyway.

>No, it fucking wasn't.
Yes, it fucking was. It was directly ideas and concepts that Nomura wanted to use going forth. And even if that WASN'T 10% what he intended to do, they still went with it all. Why would fans suddenly assume the KH2 video was different?

I'm not the user you've been arguing with, I'm just calling you retarded because Baymax is a gimmickshit fight and you can suck my dick.

You have to start with KH1. It prepares you for the future cringe by being a more serious game when compared to the others. By the time you're halfway into KH2, you'll be immune to the cringe and start to enjoy it.

>What about him? He died, both Heartless and Nobody.
Nope.
Xemnas was referred to as Xehanort's nobody in 2.

>The heart of all things
Copout answer that means nothing.
We don't know the nature of Kingdom Hearts at all.
It's always depicted as some sort of moon but the characters have never been there physically so far.

This is what everyone wants. They want a Kingdom Hearts world were you get to traverse the heart-shaped moon and see the inside of it as well etc.

>I've been moving the goalposts this whole time, I'm retarded
Well as long as you admit that you're an idiot and haven't been paying attention, we're good.

Nigger if anything past 2 was never made none of that secret video would matter, it's just a non canon concept video and no amount of your revisionist shitposting will ever change that.

>news comes out about Critical Mode
>"WOW, I WONDER WHAT MY FAVORITE E-CELEB HAS TO SAY ABOUT THIS!!! LET ME TAKE A SCREENCAP AND SHOW MY FRIENDS AT Yea Forums!!!"
Kill yourself you normalfag trash.

>Nope.
>Xemnas was referred to as Xehanort's nobody in 2.
Yes? That's exactly what I said? Both Ansem SoD and Xemnas were dead and gone as of 2.
>Copout answer that means nothing.
>durr, I'm retarded so I'm going to ignore the canon explanation reiterated multiple fucking times because if I don't then I don't have any argument
Okay bud.

How much of an autistic loser do you have to be to waste your life on a mongolian cartoon website accusing anyone who disagrees with your views to be your boogeyman?

>the barry meme is unironically true though
>He still keeps going
kekorz

>Having the game play itself
Dude canonically, the fight makes sense. Saix is nowhere near strong enough to beat Roxas or Sora individually, of course he would get rekt if they fought him at once with Xion helping out.

That "e-celeb" knows more about the inner workings of these games than you will know about anything ever in your life. youtube.com/watch?v=Q9v1fjXKZUs

>Nigger if anything past 2 was never made none of that secret video would matter
So in an alternate universe where KH2 ended the series but they still had the BBS video, it wouldn't matter? Uh, ok? But that seems like a really stupid argument, because there WERE games past 2.
>it's just a non canon concept video and no amount of your revisionist shitposting
Well no it's not just a non-canon concept video, it's directly showing the next game. Seriously, in a world where KH2 was the last I may agree. Or if any of these secret movies didn't happen in the next game. But games do exist past KH2, and al of the secret movies HAVE happened in the next game. Don't be dumb.

still a better game in every way than final fantasy xv

Roxas will never stop being the best character next to the Lingering Nort Slayer.

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I agree.
I addressed that here

>"B-b-but he's cool!"
Seriously fuck off. Shouldn't you be in school anyway?

>People post evidence
>Th-there's no B-barry
Go away

But you can't even finish Ultima until you get to the final world and have access to the last batch of Gummi bosses

change quality modes, theyre described backwards.

its half squares fault and half yours for not just trying the other option too

>it's directly showing the next game.
Where were the Kingdom Keys and Way to the Dawn in BBS?

>These two minor details didn't make it in!
I guess we'll just ignore that the whole scene was exactly the ending of BBS huh

It was you moron.
Nomura originally planned for KH2 to come out exactly 1 year after the release of KH1 but obviously he found out that wasn't feasible so it was decided that CoM would be a thing to hold fans over.

This is why Sora, Kairi and Riku are a year older in KH2. He originally envisioned to age the characters in real-time with the real world so he originally wanted KH2 to come out in 2003.

>These two minor details didn't make it in!
I guess it didn't directly show the next game then and was always just non canon concept art?

How does that make Another Side, Another Story not just a concept video?

Why the fuck would I do a lvl 1 playthrough? Theyre not remotely fun

>I guess it didn't directly show the next game then
It did, like I just said that entire scene was the end of BBS.
>and was always just non canon concept art?
No, if anything that one moment was non-canon concept art if you really want to think of it that way

>like I just said that entire scene was the end of BBS.
No it wasn't, neither Kingdom Keys nor Way to the Dawn were in the final game.

It’s 4:34 am in Japan have they release the patch yet?

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The original Xehanort would have been a plothole that many fans would complain about it being unexplained.

It's not an explanation at all.

I wouldn't care if KH ended with 2 because I don't care about the shitty story that much but you are crazy if you think the fans wouldn't be pissed about many of the things that would remain unresolved.

KH2 just universally has a damage floor that depends on battle level of the world you're visiting, so no matter how shitty your STR or MAG stat you will still do non-chip damage

>The original Xehanort
You mean Ansem's apprentice?

>mfw the game was actually more enjoyable because I only played 1&2

>the introduction of shotlock, wallrunning, air-dash, etc all at the same time made Olympus the most spectacular opening ive played since NieR
>game is genuinely funny
>all the over the top dumb story shit just made it funnier
Kino. Once in a lifetime game. I pity the jaded motherfuckers who cant enjoy a game for what it is.

Reminder KH3 is the only “never ever” that isnt trash and actually came out. Last Guardian, Duke Nukem, HL3, etc etc

Lv. 1 is pure skill based, overlevelling is a crutch for casuals.

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Those weren't even shown in the FM version. So I guess you're wrong and that scene WAS in BBS

Dude, just knock it off.
He already planted Xemnas in 1FM itself with the secret boss Unknown and even expanded the original secret ending in the FM version.
The sequel was planned all along.

>Those weren't even shown in the FM version
Not what we were talking about, was it? Because FM also adds a bunch of dipshit scenes like Aqua's armor specifically to shill BBS which was in production at the time 2FM was made. Keep trying, maybe you'll actually have a proper argument at some point.

>1FM
>FM counting at all
FMs were made while the sequels were in production, of course they're going to have shit to foreshadow it you retard.

What do you guys think of no equipment runs? or no item runs?

>Not what we were talking about, was it?
You never specified KH2 vanilla, so no. Plus you were discussing KH1's FM too.
>Keep trying, maybe you'll actually have a proper argument at some point.
I have a proper argument right here, you just declared it wasn't viable "because"

I hope they add more save slots.

Am I gay if I want to fuck Riku

>Plus you were discussing KH1's FM too.
Where? Deep Dive is the name of FM's secret ending.

Never found level 1 playthroughs all that fun but maybe I will since Proud was a little too easy.
why, there's already a shit ton.

So actually REVEALING Terra, Ven and Aqua isn't sequelbait, but Xemnas saying a quick line to Aqua's armor is. Hmm.

Ansem's apprentice = Xehanort's nobody/Xemnas.

>So actually REVEALING Terra, Ven and Aqua
You're confusing the regular secret ending with FM's secret ending. No one was revealed, they were just armor.

>the introduction of shotlock, air dash
Motherfucker did you even play BBS?
And Air Dash is just a neutered pointless move compared to Glide anyways.

that reminds me, in KH2FM, before I got the guts to do a lv1 run, I'd do low-level crit runs where I set Donald and Goofy to "Sora Attack" so they wouldn't participate in battle and enemies would always target Sora
does that still work in KH3? A lot of battles have way more enemies because they expect up to 4 party members to be valid targets, wouldn't that same kind of run in KH3 be a lot harder?

>9
>a shit ton
>while every previous entry had 99

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9 is hardly a shit ton.

...So you're saying that the video at the end of KH2 vanilla wasn't meant to shill BBS? So in this magical alternate universe where KH2 was the end, it was just a cool thingy after the credits that had nothing to do with the end of the series everyone just watched? That's stupid.

Critical mode will not fix the game.
If they wanted to make a good game they would have to start from scratch.

Does he mean we are getting Crit tomorrow tomorrow or Japan tomorrow like that means today

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Do you even know what you're arguing anymore or are you just going to keep repeating me?

>So in this magical alternate universe where KH2 was the end, it was just a cool thingy after the credits that had nothing to do with the end of the series everyone just watched?
Fucking yes, that's literally been my argument from the beginning you literal inbred. I don't care if you think it's stupid it's exactly what happened, nothing tied the letter to the secret ending so it was completely irrelevant to 2's story.

>No one was revealed, they were just armor.
They were revealed in armor, user. Being in armor doesn't mean they weren't revealed.

Most of us aren't expecting a fix, a better way to play the game at the very least.

Well it fixed KH2

I thought he said that one major DLC will cost money and all other DLC will be for free

And who were they? We never learned their names, their faces, anything. What was stopping them from just being an older Sora, Riku, and Kairi like everyone theorized when they saw it?

>FMs were made while the sequels were in production
Not 1FM
Get owned clown web.archive.org/web/20060220212331/http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/kingdomhearts2/news.html?sid=6076646

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>Fucking yes, that's literally been my argument from the beginning you literal inbred.
Oh, then you're wrong AND an idiot.
>I don't care if you think it's stupid it's exactly what happened, nothing tied the letter to the secret ending so it was completely irrelevant to 2's story.
Well no it's not exactly what happened. First of all they were always planning to make BBS. And they mention Xehanort directly, so it clearly had something to do with KH1+2.

Just finished it last night, the ending was great but that last second twist at the end was just simply unfair. Nomura, you absolute madman.....

It's almost like it was a mystery for a future game, just like the secret ending to KH1. Hmm. Imagine that.

How did you manage to speed read the dude’s post that hard

>This meme again
2 Vanilla was already a great game.
It had all the fundamentals in place.

I'd argue the Final Mix content was always planned for that game in the first place but they couldn't do it in time.

Mickey literally calls him Xehanort's nobody.

I realized Final Xehanort literally has like 3 attacks in my Lv. 1 Proud playthrough. The fucking final boss. What a joke. And there's no way a free update will be fixing this shit.

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Why in the fuck would I replay it at all?

Based Xemnaschad.

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The entire endgame is just bosses cycling the same handful of attacks over and over. Basic attack, advanced attack, hyper mode. Xehanort just has multiple phases with different Hyper Modes, and the final form trying to mix it up by forcing Rage Form and EXPIRE.

I couldn’t get hype during the final boss in KH3 cause you’re just igniting an old man. Even with all the flash I can’t get it out of my head.

>KH2 8.4
cope.
youtube.com/watch?v=qQYfUh2Dwbk

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Worked in BBS because he was five times as badass as a decrepit old Mexican grandpa.

imagine grown men still liking nuKH haha

imagine grown men liking KH

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I liked it for essentially being a prototype TWEWY.

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>X-blade combo (1)
>Teleport X-blade attack via keyholes (one-hit attack) (most common attack) (2)
>Judgement! (Sends meteors at you) (3)
>Freeze! Burst! Strike! (Blizzaraza, Firaza, Thunderaza) (4)
>X-Blade, knock this! (Throws X-blade at you creating thunder (5)
DM1 (Enlighten me) Here, Xehanort is invincible and you are forced into Rage Form (6):
>Powered-up version of the X-blade teleport/ combo attacks (sends light discs) (7, 8)
>Summons wall of light at you in this desperation (9)
>Mini shockwave of light during this desperation (10)
>Makes a lightshow while laughing (11)
DM2 (EXPIRE) (12)
>Summons multiple Rage Form Norts to attack you at once. Each turns into a lazer until it ends with all of them turning into a lazer and throne Rage Form nort makes a mega lazer
Finisher: (13)
>Last light: Sora attempts to summon the last light while Xehanort overpowers him. Donald and Goofy speak through your controller here before. Press X to have your ray of light overpower Xehanort to defeat him

Xehanort has 5 normal attacks, 2 DMs, and 1 finisher. Within the DM, he has two powered up forms of normal attacks, and 3 new attacks. Total with all attacks, Xehanort inducing you into Rage Form, and the finisher, Xehanort has 13 attacks. It doesn't help Xehanort mostly spams 1-3 of them mostly though.

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It's not an introduction.

What if Critical Mode makes Xehanort do the EXPIRE move without having to be forced into Rage Form first? Making Xehanort do that EXPIRE DM whenever he pleases?

imma just wait until final mix, maybe they can get the gameplay up to KH2's standards?

>>Freeze! Burst! Strike! (Blizzaraza, Firaza, Thunderaza) (4)
>>X-Blade, knock this! (Throws X-blade at you creating thunder (5)
I have literally never seen these. I'm also not sure how (1) and (2) differ.

Not him but if you inflate it for today's standards that's a 9.8.

KH2 destroys KH3 anyways both in critic scores and user scores anyways.

Judgement! (Sends meteors at you) (3)
>Freeze! Burst! Strike! (Blizzaraza, Firaza, Thunderaza) (4)
>X-Blade, knock this! (Throws X-blade at you creating thunder (5)
>Powered-up version of the X-blade teleport/ combo attacks (sends light discs) (7, 8)
>Summons wall of light at you in this desperation (9)
>Mini shockwave of light during this desperation (10)
>Makes a lightshow while laughing (11)
I never saw any of this, his AI must be broken to just keep spamming the keyhole teleport or something.

I doubt they would spend the time to remake the entire game.

>if the game doesn't pander to my playing style that means it sucks

>5 attacks that are all varying degrees of swinging a keyblade
>1 actual DM
What an amazing final boss.

>if you inflate it for today's standards
That's not how review's work.

>thinking the game will be fixed with the addition of HAAAARRRRD MODE!!!

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Even looking at various Level 1 vids I'm not seeing those attacks. youtube.com/watch?v=i0rT5ir-WBU

His AI must be broken or something.

Yes, what I meant.

How much of an autistic loser do you have to be to waste 5 years of your life loving garbage like ffxv and shitposting about kh3 all day every day.

it introduced them to him

I get the feeling if you counter-attack him he'll just try to loop his combos endlessly, if you sit defensively he'll pull the spells out. But that's just a guess, because he's so easy to block and counter - and i'm sure as fuck not sitting down through that entire endgame just to see if i'm right or wrong on that idea.

Yeah let's just ignore all those other attacks

>Freeze! Burst! Strike! (Blizzaraza, Firaza, Thunderaza) (4)
Just go to 7:26 here. He doesn't use that move often. He mostly spams the X-blade teleport and X-blade combo attacks
youtube.com/watch?v=pq57viFEMzE&t=646s

I just realized what my biggest problem with 3 is. Lock on doesn't actually lock the camera to an enemy, you can still move it around freely and completely lose them. I spent half of this fight looking away from Xehanort by accident while he kept teleporting from behind me.

That's exactly how they work.
But even without inflation KH2 was much better received by critics and players like anyways.

>He mostly spams the X-blade teleport and X-blade combo attacks
Then what the fuck is the point of all those other attacks? His AI is obviously broken if has all those options and just chooses the same two moves repeatedly.

The only FF I've ever played is 9.
You're mentally ill.

Hopefully Critical Mode lets him utilize more of his moves. The developers probably tweaked the AI of enemies to make the game easier for casuals.

KHfags have the same level of delusion as Smashfags thinking their kid's game is "hardcore"

>Fall!
>Creates wall of light to send at the player

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>Lightshow
>Xehanort makes dancing light pillars while laughing

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Nah, you gotta deflate it due to fanbase.

>critical mode
>no new bosses that would come with a final mix version
I'll wait until they do it for real, not this parceled out shit

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Honestly the boss would be better if they merged the moves he has during Rage Form phase into the regular fight.

they definitely aren't as impressive as the ones Roxas creates in KH2FM

He even has energy discs of light when he does the X-blade combo/ X-blade teleport attack when he is powered-up by light.

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2FM(on Critical/Critical LV1) is/was more hardcore than most games in the last 20 years or so anyways.
"Adult games" nowadays are mostly casual garbage for Normalfags who started playing in the 360 era, trash like Battlefield, Call of Duty, The Division, The Witcher, Uncharted/other Naughty Dog movie trash and so on.

KH maintains more of the spirit of retro difficulty than your typical modern game.

Also I can tell just by the way you bash Smash(a game which I've never played for the record) that you probably think you're hot shit because you play "le hardcore fighting games" that EVO plays like Shit Fighter 5, Guilty Shit Shitrd, Dragon Shit Fighter, Tekkshit and other such garbage modern fighting games and think you're epic and hardcore for it.

Newsflash for you buddy: Fighting games haven't been good since the 90s and the last good Street Fighter was like Alpha 2 or 3.

And here's the showwave of light. Why did they put so many of his moves locked behind the 'enlighten me' phase of the fight?

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FPBP

3?
Why yes, 3 is like a 5.5 not a 7.9 like the user score says in Metacritic.

lol triggered

A better view of the shockwave of light. Xehanort jumped in and said "FOOLISH!"

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Based

Cringe

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Nah you got put on your place you pretentious zoomer. Sit down clown, you don't know what hardcore means.

We were talking about KH2's score. Keep seething tho, it's a good look.

It's definitely inspired and similar to the light show Roxas makes in KH2FM.

yeah, I just wish he started throwing them out during regular attacks too just like Roxas, so you can't just block all of his attacks and have to dodge roll occasionally

KH2's score is higher(both critical and user) than KH3's even without inflation.

You can't deflate KH2's score to make KH3's look better because standards were higher back then unlike nowadays where you're lucky if you get 2-3 good games a year you retard.

And remember that the reviews here are for KH2 Vanilla which makes 3 look even more pathetic.

uncharted on crushing is comparable to crit level 1

>because standards were higher back then
Yes because the PS2 certainly didn't have hundreds of shit games
You're a nostalgia-ridden faggot

nuttin personel kid

The fight is very unimaginative just like everything in KH3 really.
Compare this shit to Ansem and Xemnas...not even comparison.

Since Critical Mode modifies enemy AI, I'm interested to see what it will do to the Xehanort fights.

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This. Let’s also not forget CoM’s kino boss fight. Xehanort was supposed to be something big, and it just ends up like “eh” in comparison.

>REEE XEHANORT ISN'T A GIANT MONSTER

In terms of damage you receive sure. But everything else is completely different.
Uncharted is just trial and error mostly compared to 2FM which is much more complex.

Shut up already zoomie.
PS2 shits on PS3 and PS4 combined.

Point is that in 2005/2006 there were so many good games coming out unlike nowadays.

That's a perfectly reasonable expectation considering the first 4 of the major bosses have giant monster forms. BBS and Coded are what broke the combo.

final xemnas isnt either

Marluxia wasn’t a giant monster, Roxas wasn’t a giant monster, Xion wasn’t a giant monster, Ventus’ armor wasn’t a giant monster. Etc

Wait is this BS or for actual reals?

The only good Xemnas fight was Twilight Xemnas. The forced lazer section was cancer.
Ansem was fun, but the final boss was too easy and flight controls weren't good for Ansem. Meanwhile, nearly every Xehanort fight is fun in some way.

Neither was Xemnas but he was much more Kino.

Xemnas in TWTNW >>>>>>>> Armored Xehanort in Scala Ed Caleum
Final Xemnas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Final Xehanort

nu bred

>Xion wasn’t a giant monster
She literally was a giant Nobody.

Xemnas went from a giant dragon to a suit of armor to just Xemnas. The final fights of KH3 are really dull in comparison to both 1 and 2.

I wouldn't say that Xion wasn't a giant monster.

He rode the giant dragon. He didn't become it. You face the dragon in a boring forced lazer section with boring music and repetitive sfx. Seems they cut out the filler in the Xehanort fight to give us decent battles with Xehanort himself.

That filler is what makes those fights great though. Imagine if Ansem SoD in KH1 only had three fights. The beach, the purple circle place, and then ended at World of Chaos without destroying any of the other parts of the boss. That's what Xehanort feels like. It's just boring.

>Ansem was fun, but the final boss was too easy and flight controls weren't good for Ansem.
Motherfucker did you ever beat him without using Leaf Bracer?

But Xehanort's fight has multiple phases. We fight Ansem SoD twice, then World of Chaos Ansem twice. That's it. For KH3 we have
>Replica Xehanort
>Armored Xehanort (Land phase)
>Armored Xehanort (Sea phase)
>Armored Xehanort (Sky phase)
>X-blade Xehanort (normal phase)
>X-blade Xehanort (Kingdom Hearts poweredup phase)

Yeah, and it's really fucking boring, especially the underwater part. It might have a cool backdrop, but it's still boring. The combat doesn't make it fun.