Sonic! he's fucking dying do something!

Redpill me on Chao
Give me a quick rundown
How deep does the lore go?

They can fuck.

None of my chaos ever died and one of them had accomplished almost every possible thing in all of karate and racing. How fucking long do they have to live for to die?

Do the chao have lore?
The most complicated about chao is raising them. Go to a chao wikia and read up on how to get stuff like the chaos chao and yeah.
Getting emblems is not fun

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rip eggy

I think it mainly depends on happiness.
As someone stated earlier, you could always leave if they started to die and immediately come back and pet them nonstop till they stopped being suicidal.

I think they only die if you mistreat them a lot. They essentially sudoku.

I recall you can mate certain colors to create new ones. I remember my friend and I created shiny/glass variations, and even invisible Chao

Wicked

>tfw it's apparently not possible to make translucent chao on SA2B because it required a type of chao only given from the Dreamcast's online service

that shit fucking killed my soul as a kid when my absolute favorite day 1 chao died on me
always treated him right but i guess i never pet him enough

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You better super sonic your ass to that exit door

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>chao get unhappy from drowning
>but they spawn next to water
>every time you hatch a new chao, you have to go get like 16 chaos drives

Looks like somebody's not getting their emblems.

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I know this exact feel

Just use the infinite animal glitch.
And if you hate animal parts, Skeleton dogs (pumpkin hill) removes animal parts

Why does it take so long to level up chao? I don't think I ever got into the Chao garden, because grinding sucks for me.

I know it stops them from dying but I like the image in my head of a Chao dying and Sonic freaking out and running out of the room

What's the easiest way to get Chao emblems in Sonic Adventure 1?

>yfw that PSO Chao

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The animal glitch made it easy, especially using ones that rose every stat except for stamina
Raising stamina itself was a pain in the ass though
It's funny how intricate it could get for what's basically an animal sim

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GameShark

>introduce enemy names chaos
>introduce creatures called chaos

what the fuck were they thinking?

>Raising stamina itself was a pain in the ass though
Force feed them fruit and don't let them stop

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Good colors are fuckng expensive, and you can get immortal chao if you follow the right steps

Why hasn't Sega licensed out a Chao Garden video game already?

SONIC YOU ASSHOLE

Spite I assume.

I GOT AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE

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This is how weird cultish practices in secluded villages are born.

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SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG IS A BITCH-ASS MOTHERFUCKER

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And an n-word

"And here we see the natives known as Chatians. Oh be quiet, they are in the middle of a ceremony customary to newborns. You see, the newborns are determined whether they will be good or evil when they're older depending on how black their face is when they get thrown at a charcoal wall 10 times without stopping. If a child doesn't survive it is seen as a failure and is fed to the lions"

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DELETE THIS

THE CHAO IS DEAD

youtube.com/watch?v=-50NdPawLVY

But Chaos is a corrupted Chao.

i didn't fuck my chao. i didn't cum on my chao. i didn't put my dick anywhere near my chao. Ive never done anything weird with my chaos. I promised myself i wasnt going to make apology videos after last years thing so im just trying to be as short and honest with this as possible. (1/?)

Whoa, I didn't know that could happen.

Me neither.
I guess I have to rethink my chao raising strategy since I can no longer use water as a makeshift cryosleep spot to have them avoid death

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Now this is my kind of thread.

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I don't think that's actually possible under normal circumstances, but it's been a long time since I've played

Chao drowning experiment is a go?

Quick give him some ugly animal parts

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NO

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Then let's see how many times I have to throw him at the wall before he becomes a dark chao instead

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Maybe
I've had times where I got a Chao stuck between a wall and a held eggshell and left the console on all night so I could get them to reincarnate quickly, so to my knowledge they don't actually die in the water

Dear god you treat your chao worse then young me did

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Hey man, I needed those Chaos Chao and I'm not doing that during the day
Everything feels much quicker if you sleep through it

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How do you fix this bugged texture?

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Accurate depiction of childhood me trying to get a dark chao

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Thanks for the laugh, user.

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You don't.
You have just brought down the chao Jesus, protect him with your life.

You can't actually kill Chao in the Gamecube ports if that's what you were playing. They removed the HP mechanic, so they will only die of old age. Mistreating them does prevent them from reincarnating though.

I'm glad you found humor in at my chao's suffering

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Yes, it was the gamecube ports.
And interesting. I never knew they had a hp stat to begin with (never had dreamcast version. I've only had gamecube/ps3 ports)

Isn't the lore that Chaos is a mutated Chao?

Literally cried the first time I saw this. Made me think I'll be a shit parent if I ever tried. Anyone else?

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>HP mechanic

WHAT

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Fucking this. It was too much for me.

I remember one of my save files was weirdly bugged and I could get the silver egg from Mystic Ruins adventure field infinitely. I made like 10 of them

If you want more fuel from my idiotic childhood self, we found the chao with the evil grin to be "cursed" so we'd dump them all in the dark garden and automatically make them dark chao.
We made the hero garden heaven and dark garden was hell, and I was in charge of hell. As the lovely gate keeper, the tree with the cage hanging off it's branch has a hitbox, so I'd put chao up there for no reason and watch them fall out to escape.

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>Not using a dark character
>Not petting and caring the Chao as the Dark character.

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chao are complex

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Why did sega put more effort into the chao garden then the main game itself
Where was that complexity when tails was copying eggman

What did you faggots name you Chao?
>Buddy here

the color mixing mod is great

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I used sonic
My sis used tails
So we only knew the method of abuse and torture
And even when I used shadow later on, I still tossed them at walls.
Pretty sure we would've abused for dark chao forever had we not read how it really works via internet.

>Blue/Gold animals
>Hidden stats that obscure in-game if ever explained
Man this will always annoy me in any game

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Not in the games, wouldn't surprise me if the comics pulled that shit at some point though.

Do you have a link to this mod good sir?

Darkly

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How do you spike them into the ground like that?

One of the mods I have removes raccoon arms. It's adorable.
Chao World Extended is the only one I know of that does that. You'll have to enable one of its cheat codes or something.

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SA2B has the most types of Chao, including all the Dreamcast version ones and many more. You do however need a Gameboy Advance adapter to get some of them.

it's part of chao world extended

chao-island.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=45060

I have extended world so nice.
Once I beat the story I'll mess around with the chao garden
(Maybe this time I can finally accomplish my dream of having a legit red shadow chao)

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With a mod. No one figured it out until last year.
github.com/Exant64/BrightFix/releases

>when tails was copying eggman
what?????

Don't get any ideas buddy

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By not playing the shitty PC port. Special Chao textures apparently don't work on PC.

youtu.be/2sEIqtW32Uc

Too lazy to race sonic again so he took eggman's idea of making a walking tank.

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PC port as in steam I assume?
Is there a mod that fixes this yet?

here

youtube.com/watch?v=yqRQWRG5nBE

The Chao Garden fansite with all the nerd shit said I can't.

HE PISSED ON MY FUCKING WIFE

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Nigglet

Let me go out on a limb and guess
Hippotank

>runs out of the garden then back in to pet the chao so it reincarnates instead of dies

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best chao

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Extended really is great. My favorite part is the chaos drive increase so it doesn't take 20 years to level chao anymore.

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>try to pick up chao
>every action is assigned to one button
>accidentally spin dash the baby
>baby ded

Spindashing was disabled in SA2 garden

I dont remember if they were in SA1

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Few things
1) Drives do more? Now THAT is good to hear.
2) What the hecking heck is that image. Is that part of extended? I just got sa2/extended like last week when sa2 was on sale for like $2 so I have done 0 research on extended (only got it because I saw some video about mods that included it)

WRONG the plural for Chao is Chao; i.e "two Chao".

Because the guy who designed the Chao system is long gone from the company and nobody wants to recreate it.

They really need a new dev team to make Chao spin off games for the sad saps that can't live without them. I'm on the fence it shouldn't be in a mainline Sonic game again unless they make solid gameplay for once, or, they make some overworld Sonic game instead of a linear one.

It could happen in SA1

That's why I said license out! Nobody at Sonic Team could possibly make a good chao game, let alone a good game at all, which is why you'd have to hand it off to some very OCD Sonic gaijins like they did for Mania. I mean, shit, look at Utopia too. American Sonic fans have some kind of game design power manifest from their autism and the lack of good sequels.

>1
Only if you specifically enable it. It's (Easy) Better Chaos Drives in the codes tab.
>2
It's a chao missing arms (adult raccoon arms) with it's stats boosted past the limit. This causes its head and wings to get all messed up like that. I believe it's (Advanced) Unlock Monster Evolution, also under the codes section. I think you can boost stats past the limit in the chao editor too.

One of my favorite secrets/easter eggs of any game.

Look at him go

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so like
what did the dark running chao look like in sa1 back in the dreamcast days before shadow was a thing

Forgot to mention you can make monstrosities like this

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To everyone falling for this
can't happen in native SA2/B. It's a mod for the Steam version
If this was in game you'd just lose your first chao because they always fall into the water often.

To who? When was the last game with a comprehensive creature raising simulator on par with the Chao garden. Everyone already talks about how much they loved it but I never hear of any games that have the same concept

Looking through cheats rn, what does all this stuff do?
And another quick question, how does 2p chao garden work?

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>It's a mod for the Steam version
Tell me more

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Is Chao Garden really "comprehensive"? I don't think the creature rearing really has to be complex. In my mind I think the game would be kind of like Animal Crossing but all the villagers are Chao you raise from birth and you act as the mayor of the town as well as everyone's adoptive dad. As you raise some Chao you get to see others interact, build stuff, or get in trouble.

See . It's called Chao World Extended, and there's been lots of new mods for it for the past 2 years now. Just get the Steam version of SA2, and download CWE and just pick from the cheat code list what mods you want activated.

Thanks, user. You're the best.

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is this the sonic version of that one engineer webm posted in every TF2 thread? you know the one.

A lot of the codes are described here (in broken english) chao-island.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=45060
I know that the the More Chao X codes add custom animations, actions, and noises for all chao.
No problem! I only knew about it because I've been waiting to see if someone would fix it for a long time.

Oho I think I do

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Ah alright.
But there's one problem, I can't seem to find the (easy) chaos drives option anywhere

>finding about the chaos chao for the first time
>realizing it takes 3 generations of grinding to get them
>only once i attempt it do i realize that it's fucking hard as shit to get the neutral branch one
>then find out about the character chao and their weird obscure shit to get them
the chao garden is some fucking amazing shit

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>Chaos Chao are very unique in that they are immortal; they will never die nor reincarnate, no matter what.

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Odd, it should be there. I don't know when it was added, but I know it's supposed to be in the latest version. I don't think I can help.

>Not going for dark chaos

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The first one is literally Kyubey from Madoka Magica, what the fuck

these were the shit

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Found it. It goes under the name "Chao Stat Multiplier" now.
It makes the drives/animals 5x more effective right?

They can't take on animal features because the Chao consists only of energy in this stage

Does that mean Chaos is an adult version of a chaos chao? Maybe by being exposed to the master emerald?

IIRC, originally the game only had Sonic, Knuckles, and Eggman playable. Shadow, Rouge, and Tails were added in late in development, and used the gameplay style of their counterparts.
It would certainly explain why Tails and Rouge's levels tend to be worse than Eggman and Knuckles'. Shadow's turned out alright, though.

hmmmmmmmmmm

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Woah, I can't handle all this insight into the lore

That's the general headcanon, so yeah.

is that a squirt bottle?

>chao garden's lore is so deep it surpasses all of sonic adventure

Even looking at it perfectly still here with its eyes visible, I can't unsee the logo on top as one big eye.

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I never made my chao touch animals.
I always hated how they would look.

I guess so. The version I have makes just the drives more effective

How do you guys feel about kobold garden? Blatant scalie bait, or potential good game?

or both?

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just use these bro

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What do you even do in it? I only ever see screenshots of the knight guy petting them.

Do those remove animal parts?

it in fact does worse

Yeah

there a public build on itch.io but it's got fuck-all to do and it's badly optimized
a lot of planned features, though, like hunting and combat
youtube.com/watch?v=Av_Isd-bE3U
youtube.com/watch?v=lBXo02rBCYs

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it looks cute, but it's a whole lot of nothing so far. can't wait to see what it looks like when it's done. I'm craving for chao garden-like stuff

Why do they all look so nervous

First time i saw it i also reminded me of the Chaos Garden. I was hoping it would eventually have the deep obscure mecanics of a baby monster raiser like the CG. The way its going i dont know if it will evolve pass a kobold petting simulator.

Some random knight is petting them. I'd be nervous too.

Those kobolds look like ass.
A huge part of the Chao's appeal is how fucking CUTE they are.

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Not as cute as the Ape Escape monkeys

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Is there any reason to buy it over pirating it?

I'm afraid we'll have to disagree there.

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Well, if you buy the Adventure games, maybe Sega will see that there's still demand and take that into account when making the nexpfffffffthahahahahhahaahhahaha.

I just put the GC version on my hacked Wii so no

Actually I think the Pikmin are cutest

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Fuck, don't force me to choose between those two.
Next you're going to bring in Servbots.

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What was it about the early oughts and stuff like this?

Yea Forums will never be that good again.

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I love it

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As far as I know he'll reincarnate and make it easier to grow the grade of a status.

Not sure if he can reincarnate 100% of times thought. But I think he can.

Man, just a few months ago we were having daily Worms Armageddon threads with games constantly going.
What happened?

Never had this happen to any chao in SA2 or SA2B until I actively tried to make it happen.

>one green egg is taking for-fucking-ever to hatch
>throw egg against wall and crack it open
>chao has a messed up face

This game is very comfy

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fug

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Im ashamed of how much time I spent in that fucking garden trying to do stupid things that the internet said was possible. Had a lot of those things die on me in the pursuit of scientific discovery

>>chao get unhappy from drowning
I don't think that's true. If they struggle in the water, it just means they have a sub-100 swim stat.

Depends on how deep it is I guess. If you can shape their appearance and traits like chao, sounds good to me. I don't even care if it's porn or not.

No, the skeledog only removes parts. You're thinking of the bats who remove legs. Skeledogs fix that too.

>HP mechanic
This is news to me

You can get cool shit if you know how to manipulate them. You feel like god controlling evolution and it's awesome

I used to do that
kinda feel bad
but in order to gain you need to bring on the pain

>HP mechanic
HM?

YOSH

Named mine Lazyass
Then my memory card corrupted
I was fucking devastated he was my strongest fastest chao. Plus he was immortal
at least in the game...

What the fuck was his problem?

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I always fucking thought this was chaos from SA1 but like his little minions or something
god I was autistic

Thank god you can just play it on your PC now. I trust an old memory card as far as I can throw it.

I think you could leave the garden, re-enter and use the few seconds before it coccoons again to give it something in the hope it gets happy enough to not die

r8 my giga nigga

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Isn’t one of his screaming sound effects an altered chao sound?

God I remember crying when I accidentally killed my Chao back in the day

>SA1 DC
>chao matting all the time
>get all gardens full
>had to throw chao off the cliff in that Mystic Ruins garden because it was the fastest way to erase them

Man I fucking remember that shit

>My chao
>My boy I used for everything. Races and karate etc
>Stats crazy high
>Starts getting that "egg" aura
>No clue what's going on
>Find out

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>my best chao
>egg aura
>holy shit he’s evolving and getting even stronger
>egg disappears
>Chao is gone
......

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NINJA in all caps

Yeep...stupid but damn it I miss that little guy

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I wish I could've been better to you, Dash.

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this post gives me an incredibly specifc sense of nostalgia

Good, I don't have to keep posting this every time.

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>power not at level 99

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>not liking floating chaos
getaloadofthis.png

>tfw there will never be another Chao Garden on the level of SA2
>tfw they will never do another Chao Garden

its like Sega hates good shit

youtu.be/puR4PIl0I9M

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Just imagine trying to play the original dreamcast release with guides barely having details of how to raising them right and with no visible stats unless you put one chao into Chao Adventure

Shadow only had 4 stages. Sky Rail was Sonic's stage. Radical Highway could have been a stage where Sonic is trying to escape the GUN. Both Jungle and Space levels felt weaker versions of Sonic's stages(despite enjoying White Jungle)
Another proof is how awkward is that Sonic vs Shadow fight, with Sonic going back to the start of the level and then pass through that small arena where they fought that is around the middle of Green Forest

Sega is sitting on a pile of cash and they don't want to make the best of it. I don't care if it is a fucking iOS/Android game, i just want another fucking Chao Garden game.

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nigga i am not going to click that shit

2 seconds in google would tell you that Chao had 100 HP on Dreamcast and would lose HP from getting hurt and gain it back from eating. 0 hp = death.

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going back as an adult and efficiently redoing what I wasted months of my life on in middle school/high school was pretty rewarding, ended up with the unique chaos/devil/angel chao and everything too, but I'll never recapture those nights spent staying up with a bro grinding animals and trying out different stat+alignment combinations for the coolest look with shitty half-complete gamefaqs as a reference

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dark float chao with skull and flame is best chao

The only thing they’ve done close to chao garden is the derby racing game they have in arcades, it’s basically the same but you raise horses and race them after building their stats. Nowhere near as cute though.

Lucas - Hero Chao
Lance - Dark Chao
They hate each other

Another piece I got from the archive.
You can also transfer the Tiny Garden fruits to the regular Gardens. Each lowers a stat while raising one, too. They despawn if you leave.

You need the right programmers or someone who can program the complex AI properly, something Sonic Team or SEGA today lacks. Even they're not as foolish as to release a shitty Chao Garden.

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chao-island.com/viewer/

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Holy shit at this thread. I didnt know any of this. Now I just wanna play SA2 for the Chao.

How do I get the GBA exclusive items if Im playing the Steam SA2? Should I emulate instead?

I don't know the ins and outs of how the GBA link works with emulation. Maybe someone made a mod with the fruit.

>set more options
>enable advanced mode
>max shit out
>see this
i was not prepared for this

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Did the pc version ever fix the glitch that let you reuse the same animal or stat drive over and over?

>make a chao orange and give him a pumpkin head
>keep feeding ghosts so they lose legs and then give them egg shell for the head
>chao that start breathing fire, fart, roll, etc
>chao that decide to jump high and fly around
>chao deciding to play instrumentals and the gang does too
>chao turns tv on and other chao start to gather
>chao drawing your character

Fun times

no
this one has an elongated neck

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and elongated head

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I made these two a few months ago.

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from this angle he doesn't look bad
Then it all goes wrong at this angle.

guh-huh

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Elvis, dark speed/speed chao. Good little bastard

it's looking like you can, he gives one some bunny ears and antlers in the hunting update video

that top one is sick, like a dark nights chao

Underrated filename

Are you guys a little bit special? Have you never tried to use the plural of "Chao" and realize it's "Chaos"?

>Younger self
>Curious about what the Goodbye Chao feature truly does, if it could have ANY benefit at all
>Throw my big brother's Chao in there
>He discovers it a few weeks later
>Come back to SA2 one day
>My Chao I had raised & used to conquer Karate & Race isn't here anymore

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>people pronounce it chow
>actually kay-awh
>omochao was just lying to you

Pretty sure Chaos is outright stated to be the guardian diety to the chaos

Your younger self was dumb as shit, senpai
your current self might be too

I had a friend who pronounced it "Coh" so I mean you're doing fine

He should have also mentioned that you can get varying degrees of invisible chao by breeding the colored chao from the shop with chao from the GBA; it's possible to get a shiny normal chao as well, which was the coolest imo.

how chaotic of them

He's not Sonic

am I retarded or is that generator missing the advanced evolution varients (chao-island.com/gallery/advanced-evolution/dark/)? it's alspo definetely missing the haloween animals

something I'd never noticed after all these years until I saw it in a twitch chat
after your chao evolves, it gradually evolves further. apparently which garden its in has an effect on that.

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yes, o'm just retarded, ignore me, I wasn't messing with the age slider

>tfw you will never see you SA2 chao again
fuck the asshole who stole my memory card as a kid, i never even got to say goodbye to him

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>tfw bred generation after generation of chao until I finally made an all S chao

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Did you learn your lesson?

Anyone have their Chao get their eyes stuck closed? my favorite Chao never opened his eyes

never see it, how did you get this originally?

Some character chao had a long process of making , but i think tails chao came from connecting phantasy star to your GBA then to the chao garden

seal parts actually look pretty great on pure swim hero chao

Can confirm.

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This is what my chao looked like when i played as a kid i think

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Not me. I was one of the few who experimented by abusing chao using different methods to see how they would react.

Wait, they could die? I never remember them dying and I used to beat the shit out of most of them.

I'd call every single one Tango, and they'd always be orange
I thought that was the coolest shit ever because it was the name of an orange soft drink

why don't Sega release a Chao game? it'd do very well, so long as they don't fuck up

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>Are you sure you want to release your chao?
>Yes
>Are you really sure?
>Yes
>Are you really, really su-
>WILL YOU JUST GET OUT OF HERE!

After a few hours (In the current garden it doesn't count anywhere else) they go into a coccoon. They either reincarnate as another chao or go poof depending on how you treat them.

Did anyone posted the post of the user jacking off to the Chao garden?

they can only be beaten to death in the dreamcast version
in CG and after they can only die of old age, at which point they grey cocoon before disappearing.
If they're treated really well, though, they'll pink cocoon instead, and reincarnate as a baby instead of disappearing.

It's amazing how you see games differently as a kid, some times creating a shitload of new things in your head.
...I miss those days.

Star was my very first Chao, he was hero
Then my friend got to name my second chao. He was SHUTUP, the blue dark chao.

I still have them to this day

I'm still surprised of WHY Chao garden didn't returned.
SEGA could literally make a chao garden spin off and it would sell like hotcakes.

If a new Chao garden is made, would it have so many shit going on like the SA2 one?
Would it also have the almost impossible Chao only available by playing other SEGA games?

>Chao game is made
>it's mobile

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HOLY FUCK BIG THE CAT LMAO

I've stopped wanting a chao game ever since realizing that this would be the inevitable outcome

this might interest you guys

thats...cute

m.youtube.com/watch?v=M0FxsP18--Y

Because raising Chao is not for minmaxers
It's a recreational activity

what the hell is wrong with you

>tfw love sonic adventure and chao garden
>tfw love PSO
>had no idea until years later that you could get a fucking tails chao with that easter egg

Honestly blew my fucking mind. It was the dopest thing

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D-delet this

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Chaos die from old age only, you gave him a good life.

nice

>that chao trying to escape the doc's clutches

this little ghost nigga was going around beating the fuck out of all the chao with that bully mod. he has no legs but i can't find the option on the viewer

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looks like a vanilla frosty

Was the Chao doctor good for anything other than checking the stat sheet? I remember him only saying stuff like "Your chao is very healthy. Please take good care of it"

my chao had a cough one time and he healed it. seems to be very rare, i don't know if there's any other illnesses

The breeding is my favorite part. It's a shame by the time I finally have an S ranked chao I never have the enthusiasm to actually grind their stats.

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That confused me too. He tells me my Chao isn't dying if I bring it in and that's all he does.

This. I didn't even know it was possible having spent 100+ hours on the gamecube edition. But finally saw it on PC. The odds of it happening must be extremely low.

There's an exploit where you can reuse the same animal infinitely. Makes the grinding more bearable

>If you boost a stat too much as a child, the Chao when it evolves will go down a rank
Can anyone confirm this is the case for SA2B (GC)? This is something I've never heard before and I like to reach lvl 99 as fast as possible.
Does this counter the rank boost you get for evolving a Chao of that type, or is that supposed drop ignored? (e.g. a kid with swim rank A evolving to an adult swim chao with rank S)

My very first was given the name Charon by the gypsy. Little shit was incredible. Became a NiGHTS chao on accident and could curbstomp all over the hardest races and chao karate. Literally too happy to die.

Then my brother transferred him to one of the GBA games and didn't save, effectively deleting him from existence on both the Gamecube and GBA.