How long has PC gaming been a superior choice to console video games?
How long has PC gaming been a superior choice to console video games?
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bout halfway through 360 ps3 days
80's
That seems about right
Since Doom.
>zoomers don't even know the "the great atari crash" only affected burger consoleshitters while PC just kept on trucking
Consoles were never better.
>can't even get a decent platforming game on PC
>the best attempt was this shit and it's a pale imitator
Until ps2 came out
FPBP
depends on which games you consider.
if you take RPGs, adventure games, and old school FPS, then is right, consoles were never even in the game, and when they were, the ports were horrible(i'd say the only "valid" exception could be Doom 64, but that's still a stretch).
If you consider mainstream games, games that made the headlines, and your typical AAA game, consoles were the best choice for almost all generations until PS3/360.
Before that, games that were released both on consoles and PC weren't really better on PC, in some cases were even worse(the only good point GTA SA had on PC was higher resolution, everything else was inferior), and even when they were better on PC(i.e. NFSU2), the vast majority of the target audience of these kind of games didn't had a PC capable of gaming, or had just one family PC they couldnt game on whenever they wanted to.
And let's not even get into how no one seemed to understand how to program proper hit detection for early PC fighting games, even when they were fucking ports.
Face it: the only way PC gaming got good was when the architecture was close enough to consoles that games could just be ported straight over.
When you could emulate 6th gen consoles decently
Best games on Pc are old console games?
it was briefly around 2000. but then it went back to being reddit or meme or whatever you kids say.
>what is ultima, wizardry, sierra, infocom, microprose, star control 2, wing commander, sid meier, maxis, elder scrolls, descent and all sorts of obscure games
PC's lowest point is when they started porting console games and making console-like crap.
No one cared about shitty arcade ports, PC and consoles had fundamentally different audiences back then.
>Consoles were never better.
Except for the fact that PCs (IBM compatibles) used to be pretty shitty at games until smooth scrolling became easily possible in the early 90s and 3D-like games like Doom emerged.
And except for that technologically exciting but consumer-terrible time from the late 90s to around 2010 or so where PC gaming was an excruciatingly expensive hobby due to "last year's parts" being made absolutely redundant by "this year's parts" not only in terms of performance but game optimizations.
>want to play Ultima 4 these days
>emulate the Master System version
oh nononono
>remastered version of a 5 years old game
Things used to be better exactly because they were PC games first and foremost and just got shitty console ports later.
>emulate
on PC of course right :^)
Building a new PC, should I upgrade to W10 or stick with Windows 7?
W7 is legacy tech by now and will lose support soon.
Don't fall for /g/ memes.
yes
If you are building a new system, you should use 10. 7 is going to lose major support within one year.
Yes, the huge powergap between computers and consoles sure was something.
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probably 10 at this point.
if 7 will lose support by the end of this year, so go with 10.
if that wasnt the case, and if some games didn't potentially not support it entirely, most would go with 7
>using some flashy led ridden white box with a window
>not just using a featureless beige pc case from the 90s
fucking zoomers can't they do anything right?
>platforming
Kek, that's like saying radio sucks because there's no dubstep on it.
Do they even make modern beige cases? I just do all black nowadays with as little leds as possible.
Until about the mid-90's it was just another platform, it had exclusives and the kind of games you'd find on it were totally different.
Then consoles started doing 3D polygonal grafix in exchange for shitty performance, and the kikes fooled the mainstream into thinking 30fps was an acceptable compromise
You can either go full /g/-tard and pretend big data couldn't still rip your disk without batting an eye if they really wanted to
or you can play games, there is no middle ground
>incredibly deep and lengthy RPGs and adventures with some janky graphics
vs
>WOOOOOO PEEPEEPEEPEEPEE THE LITTLE GUY IS MOVING RIGHT BING BING
>Then consoles started doing 3D polygonal grafix in exchange for shitty performance
ironically the N64 had a better GPU than PCs did at a time despite Nintendo gimping its RAM
If 7 wasn't being support dropped, that. I held out as long as I could myself
>no counterargument
Might aswell not posted.
Since never
PCs are workstations. They aren't made to play video games and they never will be.
The argument is that console games were for actual children and PC games were for real men, the line is blurred nowadays but it was very distinct back then.
Install gentoo
But games like Dungeon Master were also released on console with generally superior versions. How does that make the PC superior?
Since when custom builds became a thing
well that was the turning point, nintendo and sony wanted to push the limits even though it meant a lot of compromise
unfortunately it resulted in later generations of consoles that were capable of running 3D games at silky smooth framerates to think low framerates were acceptable, not that there weren't/arent exceptions
but the current climate now has consoles as budget computers that can't run things as well, with computers you pay three times as much but get double the performance
before said turning point, it was just another platform for games that wouldn't work on the more basic console systems at the time
Idorts have ruled the 4th, 5th and 6th gens.
Starting with the 7th gen there have been fewer and fewer reasons to get consoles.
As of the 8th gen, almost no reasons remain. Unless you're poor.
The SNES port of Dungeon Master was 4 years after the initial release since the SNES didn't even exist, and even a port 1 month later wouldn't change the fact that it was a PC game made for PCfags, consolebabs love to rewrite history and pretend like PC gaming is somehow a new thing.
Seething poorfag
Do people who own PCs have jobs where they're standing all day? I work an office job in dev so I'm sitting ALL FUCKING DAY. I even have a herman Miller and my back still gets sore. To think about coming home to sit in a computer chair again seems absurd to me. I'd rather just sit on my couch or bed and play ps4 or switch.
As already evidenced above, hardware wasn't the issue as consoles were even in 1987 much better equipped to handling video games. Regardless trying to get my point across is absolutely useless as the replies have gone beyond hardware capabilities and game design, as those could be ported intact with sometimes better results, and you're just arguing about the userbases which is just asinine shitposting.
I'd say late 00's is the only time PC was kinda shit since it was mostly nothing but broken console ports but it still had plenty of good non-mainstream games.
>as those could be ported intact with sometimes better results
No since kb+m provides a completely different array of possibilities, consoleshitters will never ever get a good shooter or text adventure for example.
>consoles used to get a few games ported from PC with downgraded gameplay half a decade later, that means console was better!
kys
>or text adventure
Which were a thing only because all consoles were designed to display graphics, unlike PCs.
PC is a piece of irrelevant overpriced garbage. The best games ever created were always console exclusives, console oriented multiplats. Not a single game worth mentioning originated in PC.
PC shouldn't even be put in the same category as consoles. PC is an irredeemable waste if money and time.
Text adventures were a thing before computers even existed you fucking stupid zoomer.
Consoles were better because they were actually designed with video games in mind unlike early PCs. That made consoles better for playing video games.
It all ended after the ps2 era,Xbox 360 kept us at bay for a few years tho, but after 2008 PC was just superior
Since svga and resolutions above 480i/480p exist.
Nah its just that on Pc one day we might be playing some 2006 game in 4k 60fps and the next day a 2019 game in 4k 60fps ,such is the life of the pc gamer,too many choices , too much freedom
i was a PC gamer in the mid 90s
at that time there were like 10 different 3D accelerator card types, none of which were compatible with each other
if you bought a 3D card at that time which were several hundreds of dollars you literally had a 80% chance that the card you bought would be an entirely worthless piece of shit because no standard for 3D gaming existed yet so no new games would support your card at all or just support it in a broken way
Depends on what you want from your gaming platform. I have all current gen consoles (switch is essentially next gen) as well as PC. I use the PC the most when I'm at home but I travel a lot especially because of studies so consoles are way more convenient since I can literally pack a ps4 into a backpack with all the wires and controllers it's that portable. If I had a choice of taking a single console with me it would probably be Xbox one because of gamepass so I always have games to play with new ones added every month but then Xbox one I have is the profile VCR one and that shit is huge as fuck and won't even fit into my small suitcase, forget backpack. So yeah I just have a ps4 with me but with only 3 games because I can't afford to spend $60 on games all the time but if I had gamepass which is like $60 For 6 months and you get over 100 games with it that's the most perfect scenario for me.
Ideally I could have a PC the size of a console but those are expensive as fuck and it's still not that portable because I don't want to carry a keyboard with me.
Stick with console, an actual gaming platform
Consoles were for a very short time better for playing scrolling rainbow platformers, but then far more interesting stuff like Doom and RTSes came along, I'd say mid 90's PC games were the highest point.
PC gamers be like
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(That guys is the creator of megaupload)
>console zoomzooms will never know the feel of playing rollercoaster tycoon 2 on their putty tower
How did you fit your head so far up your ass?
Im on W7 and going to upgrade this year to W10. W10 is still crap but not a dumpster fire that was W8.
>This dumb nibba forgot about critically acclaimed iconic Prince of Persia.
>tfw long time idort
next gen is probably going to be the one i drop the idort meme
>idorts
Thats owning all platforms you know.
Never ever. What does PC have? Shooters? They can run on toasters. Strategy games? Maybe a good strategy game every 5-6 years so your good on a toaster.
Last good PC exclusives are probably CIV 4 and STALKER series. Other then running good console ports like metal gear rising faster its a big shitfest of overrated.
>inb4 get called poorfag for not having latest PC despite PC being abysmal for years
Thats what happens after spending thousands of dollars on graphics cards only to sell one after a few months because compatibility, we are freaks,we do whatever goddamit
just buy a comfy chair dude
That's just being an idiot, there's no reason to own two consoles or even xbox + pc since xbox is just a budget PC with zero exclusives.
Don't pretend to be a boomer.
60fps was a meme prior to the 00's, back when 1st fully 3d games started hitting the market in the mid 90's, like Q2 and Descent - people saw anything above 20fps as a holy grail, and even that demanded outrageous hardware for the time.
60fps only became a thing in the mid-to-late 6th gen, when PC crashed and burned as a platform, and outside a very rare exlusive like HL2, most of it's library consisted of ports hailing from a. by then - vastly underpowered platform, which shit like GeForce 4Ti and FX could run at 60fps+ in 1024x768 or even 1280x960.
Don't act like PC was always the shit. Hell, even 3d itself was pioneered into the mainstream by the PSX, which in turn gave rise to the Graphics Accelerators like Voodoo, Virge or Rage, because PC's of the time had nothing to run shit like that.
1998.
I remember running Tomb Raider in software mode in 320/240 at like 12fps. Times before the Geforce and Radeon were truly a dark age.
Since like 1999/2000
When the n64 released it blew pc graphics out the water then 3d graphics cards started getting better and better there after
>mid-to-late 6th gen, when PC crashed and burned as a platform
Oh yeah it was so painful having to play crap like C&C Generals, Enter the Matrix, KotoR, Beyond Good & Evil, HL2, UT2004, The Sims 2, Hitman C+BM, Battlefield 2, Psychonauts, Civ 4, FEAR, Oblivion, Dark Messiah, etc, truly the dark ages of videogames.
Bait.
>a very short time
If you would consider mid 70s to late 80s "very short", though I'd remind you that's probably over half your age.
>Times before the Geforce and Radeon were truly a dark age.
Those times were still pretty dark. Remember how the first few GeForce cards had a really blurry fucking VGA connection? And first few years of Radeon drivers gave BSODs all the time?
Or how Nvidia rebranded the GeForce 2 as a GeForce 4 and deliberately tried to confuse people into mixing it up with the real GeForce 4? Or the even scummier practice where Nvidia would randomly make GPU boards with half the memory bandwidth and absolutely nothing on the packaging would indicate you got a gimped card?
Or how the GeForce FX was marketed as a DirectX 9 card but had such terrible DirectX 9 performance that most games like Half-Life 2 detect it only as a DirectX 8 card?
xbox one + gamepass is amazing value for money and is perfect for people who want to spend the least amount but want to be able to play a lot of games. just from a 1 month trial i had i ended up playing fable, fh4, banjo kazooie, ninja gaiden black, mortal kombat with friends, gears 4, ashen and i still have loads of games to play like shadow tomb raider, doom 2016, dmc4.
Pretty much this. Before that it came down to personal preference whether you prefer the PC library or the console library of games. I used to prefer consoles, because the games were just better overall, but nowadays the isn't much of a reason to own a console besides the Switch.
>trying to imply Atari crap was somehow good
It was only by the NES era that consoles started pushing for the grafix meme.
2007 When Cod4 and TF2 came out was when PC really took off
>not emulating retro games on a Wii
Get a load of this fag.
Nobody cares if you personally consider the games good.
I've always gamed on PC, recently bought a ps4 for the exclusives. I'm now actually considering switching to PS5 for the next gen.
But I really don't like that consoles are mostly focused on the graphics instead of frames, which are more important to me.
Also I don't like prices on the PS Store, they are twice as much as the ones on Steam in my country.
I also don't like that you can't refund games, and the PS Store is so much worse than Steam in literally every way possible.
Okay, the only thing that I like about consoles is that I can play online games (let's say Apex) with a controller, because for some reason I enjoy using a controller more, even though I'd always gamed on a keyboard and mouse before that.
See PC games were far better than anything on console, and even today consoleshit doesn't come close to the level of complexity some ancient PC games had.
It's debatable, but I'd say around the time Doom came out.
user, 80% of what you typed out were multiplats, you're kinda proving his point.
Show me someone making them that fits for a modern PC and I'll get it.
Buy a single couch. Chairs are a meme. Only down side is it is a pain in the ass to move.
>PC had the best versions of all games that matter plus exclusives
What point is there? The only high point of consoles was the PS1/PS2 era exclusives but even then PC was still doing fine with its own kinds of games.
Since like 2008.
>What point is there?
That the assburger focused on a single point, took it out of context and ignored the rest, so i suppose - Yea Forums
It depends on what kind of games you like. It my opinion it's been since 97 or 98
>PC had the best versions of all games
Not really true before 7th gen. Many ports of console games at that time were extremely janky and poorly done.
San Andreas is a good example. Half of the game's graphical effects from PS2 were broken in the PS2 version. Sure, mods eventually brought them back in, but that was *years* later. Many less popular games were never fixed.
As far as we know for next gen the Xbox (even the lowest end model) will be targeting 4k 60 fps in all games because when they put it in servers the increased framerate reduces input latency so it's almost a necessity for them to do that. Nvidia already does this with GeForce now (their streaming service) because the higher the framerate the less input latency.
We don't know anything from Sony side but considering 4k gaming at 30 fps is already a thing with consoles like Xbox one x with only 6tflops then next gen consoles, which should be targeting ~10 tflop according to several rumours, should be able to achieve 4k60. Though knowing Sony they'd rather have their games at 30 fps but with better cinematic graphics.
Never. At $400 my PS4 Pro looksjust as good (sometimes better) than my friend's $4K light show in a box.
The PC meme is dead. The next gen of consoles will trounce PC hardware thanks to the new APIs being developed for them. Ray tracing will be as simple as flipping a switch, while PCs will be running the same thing at 30fps.
>complex = good
That's a pretty stupid opinion.
*broken in the PC version
user, you can use a controller on PC too...
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>>PC had the best versions of all games
By many you mean not many. San Andreas ran at 20fps on PS2 too.
No one bothered even playing consoleshit ports then, there was a clear split between PC and console games and the only thing that went wrong since then is how 7th gen consoles just became shitty PCs and games were merged between platforms.
As a Pc gamer that would be a dream ray tracing with no perfomance cost,fuck im cumming, sadly thats just fantasies,but hey if by some chance that happens everybody wins
> At $400 my PS4 Pro looksjust as good (sometimes better) than my friend's $4K light show in a box.
uh huh...
I game on a 24 inch monitor, so I don't care about 4k at all. I haven't tried it though, is that really something amazing?
I can't imagine preferring 4k over 144 FPS for example.
But it looks like consoles won't be targeting 144 FPS any time soon :(
So I don't know, I currently gave gtx 970 and i5 6500, so I should be fine for a couple more years, but I feel like I'll have to upgrade soon, and I can't decide if I should just switch to the PS5 or upgrade my PC and get the PS5 later for the exclusives.
I like PC a lot more in almost every way, I just wish we'd have controller-only lobbies on PC at some point (I understand why it's not a thing though).
I can tell you like dozens of more recent examples buddy , the things is most games are better on pc thankfully nowadays
I watched that AVGN episode too :)
>By many you mean not many
Lighting effects broken. Mirrors broken. Motion blur effects broken. Auxiliary framebuffer effects broken.
All PC version had going for it was a higher resolution and an extra specular effect on the cars. That's about it.
You appear to have brain damage, get that checked out
I have used it for years now, but you can't really compete with it in multiplayer games. I mean, you can, but you'll still be at a disadvantage, while on console everyone (most at least) in the lobby is playing with a controller.
Also some games don't have aim-assist, like the latest COD, and so I had to buy the game again on PS4 just to play it with a controller.
Im buying a 4k 144hz when new Nvidia Series drop :D yep 1080p to 4k is so good almost as good as 60 fps to 144fps,would reccomend
Frame rate.
You're also only talking about 1 game, most ports are best on PC.
Always.
>The PC meme is dead.
Bigger than all consoles combined.
>The next gen of consoles will trounce PC hardware thanks to the new APIs being developed for them
What does this even mean? Do you even know what an API is?
>Ray tracing will be as simple as flipping a switch, while PCs will be running the same thing at 30fps.
How? Ray tracing is a computationally intensive task no matter how you twist it, consoles are now in this awkward spot where PCs are pushing for 4k/144hz/ray tracing but that would be too expensive to put in a console so they will have to rely on misleading marketing again for the next generation and hide the fact that their "big numbers" are horribly done and rely on extreme and visible optimizations and terrible FPS as usual.
Fair enough
The PC version is literally capped at 30 FPS. All it can claim is fewer slowdowns than PS2 in that department.
>You're also only talking about 1 game, most ports are best on PC.
No seriously, I'd say most ports of 6th gen console games to PC were outright inferior.
>the things is most games are better on pc thankfully nowadays
I never said otherwise, but claiming PC gaming was always the best option is just flat out wrong.
Yea, it was okay.
10. Unless you're afraid that you will shame the good /g/entlemen, it's gentoo + proton
but you do need a bigger monitor to actually enjoy it, don't you?
I like gaming on a 24" monitor, and I just don't think I'll see that much of a difference if I switch to 4K.
PC had its own games that played the platform's strengths, literally no one ever cared about these obscure ports.
>PC had its own games that played the platform's strengths
Same goes for consoles.
Which were for children :^)
I dropped at this gen because of paid online service, imagine having to pay extra to play in some cases 100% of the game (CODBO4)
Also games are cheaper on PC
And the PS2 version was capped at 20fps.
>No seriously, I'd say most ports of 6th gen console games to PC were outright inferior.
Name 20 then.
None of the 3D era GTA games were meant to run on fps higher than the consoles counterparts. Frame limiter is a must in those games to ensure that the physics doesn't freak the fuck out. For 3 and VC it was capped 30 fps, and SA had it worse since it was capped on 24 fps.
It wasn't until IV when we got, ironically despite running like shit, a 3D GTA that resembles a PC game instead of an obvious console port dumped into PC. Then V came out and it was fantastic as a port.
Yea. Just go to the gym 3-4 days a week and it won't be an issue.
>Then V came out and it was fantastic as a port.
Too bad the game itself was shit.
>superior choice
>these days you have to hope a game comes for pc when you KNOW it'll likely be available on console
>you also have to hope the game would actually be ported properly and not half assed or contain some bug you have to fix yourself
Didn't some PS4 games supported MK+B?
At least since Doom.
2007 called, it wants its (inaccurate) memes back.
a game being complex means it wasn't built for braindead twitter-goers, so it automatically makes it good
You can't have a cake and eat it too
>retard rewriting history
lel
Yes, that is correct. I'd rather take any Ultima (including II) over some bing bing.
25 FPS actually and so was the PC version without hacks.
Even though I disagree, but are you seriously saying that's supposed to be a bad thing? Kids know what's fun and what isn't.
It has always been better.
8800GT
Yep, steam became tolerable and ports were less shit.
when did Yea Forums turn into reddit?
All console GTAs run at 20fps and you can unlock frame rates.
It depends on the type of games that you play and enjoy the most.
>FIFA, PES, Street Fighter, platformers, casual party games, etc.
Consoles.
>strategy, rpg, simulations, first person shooters,mmo, etc.
Personal computer.
I know that a pc can emulate most console games, but it is not the same, especially when you are with bros and just want to relax and play.
>put a disc in
>grab controllers
>play
Also for console tards, there is no console that can let you enjoy a lan party, or that can reproduce the feel when you start Heroes 3 and play them for days alone, immersed entirely and disconnected from our mundane world.
When W10 had its issues ironed out and W7 became painfully outdated.
I don't know of a PS4 game that does. Maybe fortnite? The ones I play don't.
PC gaming is pretty shit in 2019. Just console ports and indie games.
If you have good vision 24 is enough but it is more noticeable on the typical 27-32inch monitor,especially your eyes will get less tired after long gaming sessions
so never?
Paying 3x as much for an extra 20Fps is a great investment
>the best versions of games plus indie games is somehow worse than a subset of these games and no indie games
Emulation, modding, MMOs, and exclusives as well.
So basically consoles but better?
KEK
I didn't said that you couldn't, but it wasn't meant to be played that way, a bit like Dark Souls port. I remember that my mouse aim moves jittery and I can suddenly fly across the screen just because I sprinted too fast.
NEVER EVER CONSOLEKEKS
After a bit of googling, Overwatch does that
PCkino coming through
What now m8?
>b-b-but it wasn't meant to be played that way
Stay pleb kiddo.
As long as it’s been possible to snap up and retrofit enterprise surplus. For the price of an Xbone X, you can make a surprisingly competent shitbox with an Optiplex or ThinkCentre paired with a GPU and upgrading the PSU and storage.
>SMB Special
Christ that was a horrible "port". Have you seen what happens in 8-2 when you go past the castle walls? Mario's entire sprite turns black with yellow brick block patterns painted over it. The Sharp X86000 has a much better pc port of SMB
Yeah, the best versions of the games... 6 months after they release on consoles. Don't even get console exclusives. Basically, you have to beg and cry until maybe you get a port.
When MHW was announced for PC I was stoked. It came out like 8 months after the console versions and was played to death already. Same with Destiny 2.
Yeah fuck PC and fuck you bro.
>it's real
I wonder if anyone played it
Waiting is irrelevant because PC has other games to play unlike modern systems.
>it's patrish to play some jank ass ports the broken way
Come on now
Few games even have delayed ports nowadays and the very few exclusives are first party crap no one with taste cares about, the funniest shit is how misleading they are by calling it "console exclusives" when a game is both on a single console and PC, pretty much all exclusive lists do this.
Logic is thrown out of the windows in these debates,seriously whats happening in the mind of your typical console player I m really curious
>it's real
We can go deeper.
>970
>couple of years
PC ports are worse by the day
What a lot of people don't get is that, with a few exceptions, any advantage the consoles has is contractual, not hardware or software. PCs were used to build console games, after all. And ignoring the arcades, that were shiting on all the peasants for decades is silly as well..
So, from late famicom to early 90's PCs did struggle with fast, smooth scrolling, ala Sonic.
From the 360 and on, console hardware and game dev tools functionally restandardized for cross platform.
I played this, it had split screen.
They are mentally unhinged. Consoles are mostly ports, PC is mostly emulation and exclusives. But somehow PC players waiting for ports is bad.
The only console exclusive I care about this gen is Wipeout Omega and it's a fucking remaster.
So... I couldn't play God of Wa, Spiderman, Red Dead Redemption 2, Horizon, Yakuza on PC. Persona 5 PS3 version runs like aids on emulator. Last of Us 2 is coming out this year. Final Fantasy VII remake is going to be either PS4 or just console exclusive for a long time. Many games that do get PC ports do actually take forever to come to PC.
Seriously fuck PC. It's not worth it at all in this day and age. It used to be worth it when PC had good fucking exclusives. Now you're paying $800 for a graphics card just to run console ports, that you get 6 months later, at a few higher FPS, better graphic settings and nude mods.
It was at the start of this gen. Hardware was disappointing, there were nogaems, consoles were expensive as shit.
But in last 2-3 years consoles got much better. Hw updates were ok while they got some great games.
Also, Valve has not done anything meaningfull in last 8 years.
what the fuck?
I spend 1k not only to play games but also to do spread sheets
Here's the real kicker. It's a Microsoft game on a Sony console, and it was ported from PC to console by motherfucking KONAMI
It never was and never will be.
Yakuza is on PC and all FFs are on PC too so FF7 will obvious come (if it ever releases), RDR2 is hard to say considering Rockstar's spotty PC support but GTAV was a huge success on PC so it would be silly not to port it, the rest is movie simulator crap no one over the age of 15 cares about which doesn't even come close to outweigh the sheer size and diversity of the PC library plus all the best versions of all games.
The days of GFWL were some of the worst
I obviously know more about it than you, lol. If you're not sure how a better designed API can make hardware run better maybe you shouldn't be near technology and should go play with a bal or something. Keep defending your overpriced meme hardware though, I'll just demolish every argument you can make.
PCs can't even run current PS4 caliber games. God of War was GOTY across the board and nothing on PC looks half as good. Gran Turismo already does ray tracing tech and it's easily the best looking racing game ever made, outright shitting on the PC version of Turdza Borizon 4. The PS5 will be running even better looking games at 8K 120fps.
PCs can't even do HDR. What a joke.
Windows 10. Just use ShutUp10 and don't fall for any of the memes.
Consolefaggotry is a terrible mental illness
>the rest is movie simulator
>Games we can't get are shit lol
Why do PCfaggots do this every time?
This has to be b8.
The worst part is that there actually are people this ignorant, but Yea Forums being infested with them now is depressing.
They simply aren't good games unless you have very basic bitch taste.
>Three times as much to get twice the performance
More like 50% more (750$) since most games still run at 30fps on consoles
so all new big budget single player games?
consoles are initially less expensive and have some exclusives
that's it, there's literally nothing else consoles have over pc
>consoles hold back technological progress!!!1!1!
>I'll be using a decade old system though
Explain yourselves, pc cucks.
>all new ps4 single player games
fixd
He doesn't need to push his system because no game dev is making games that are built to anything but console spec.
Windows is an operating system, not a game system.
>SONY COMPOOT
^^^ This
Grab a PS4 Pro, and enjoy better games with the same or better graphics at 1/6 the price.
but that's all it does
Well, for one thing, they're not platformers
which was what the post you responded to was talking about.
The OS is mostly irrelevant for games except for the ones that rely on new APIs like DX12 and VR stuff, but upgrading the OS doesn't require buying a new artificial generation box like consoles and there's backward compatibility so it's not like you're losing anything either way.
That sounds more like a drunken e3 party than a development plan.
WIth consolewars bitching, the line between bait and genuine stupid doesn't matter.
1993
A ps4 pro isn't even the best in its price range. You can find the new Xbox for around the same price and that's an actual excuse for owning a console since most of the games are native 4k like RDR2 and Metro:Exodus recently. Ps4 pro is some half assed job and isn't worth it unless it's $300. Dirt Rally 2.0 from like last week runs at 1080p on both ps4 pro and ps4.
>same or better graphics
You can suck cock all you want but don't lie to the lad
Pro + 10 games and online costs more than a PC with thousands of games.
DMC5 has 970 as the recommended card, I don't mind lowering the settings a bit either
As if making the transition to PC was that easy
You could sell your entire game collection for more than 150$ if you are lucky
The PC game cost should be like 1/4th of that if you buy stuff on sale like you should and only paying full price if you really can't wait for some particular game.
$650 for a pc is kind of meh, don't you think?
also you don't have to buy games at full price
you can even get used games and then trade them and game almost for free
Since when are games on PC 40$ at max?
Sure but that PC would have thousands of free games, it's a better system.
I tried googling myself a bit and didn't find anything about any official support, user
DELETE THIS!!!
I don't know how difficult it is to do if you're from Europe or the US, but if you set your region to Russia on Steam, games will be $30 tops.
keys
>Uses game footage ripped from a youtube video of base PS4 version.
>Uses touched-up bullshot from 2007, still looks terrible.
Thanks for making my point.
or you can just buy from key resellers like GMG at 50% the store price
I pre-ordered RE2 for $40 and that was before it even released
FPBP
yeah but that only affects plebs.
since steam allows publishers to generate keys infinitely for free at no hidden costs to them
that allows them to sell those keys to resellers like GMG for cheap because they dont have to pay the 30% steam cut, AND they still get to benefit from vale doing everything for them
>Thousands of games
Games I can make in game maker in 20 minutes do not count.
lol, I always wondered how these websites get the keys
thanks user, I'll be smarter now!
lol
>that snow texture
ahahahahhahaha holy shit
oh come on, Dota 2/CS/LoL/PoE etc.
there are a lot of good free to play games on PC.
I don't play any of them anymore, but I have thousands of hours in some of them.
>tfw epic essentially bringing us back to those dark ages
everything in that picture looks horrible user
I'm talking about ports, PC games, and emulation. Not that shit.
congrats on achieving skyrim graphics in 2018
what is kratos doing in skyrim
pc has always been better
nobody here ever play starcraft, diablo 2, red alert 2, warcraft 3, quake, counter strike 1.6, unreal tournement, ANY MMO, half life (and all it's fucking dope standalone mod spinoffs like the specialists, natural selection etc.)??????
It's a mod
PC graphics is stuck in early PS3 titles. There is nothing on PC that even comes close to RDR2, and it's just one game. Death stranding will rape your overpriced, irrelevant PC even more, not to mention Last of Us 2.
>zoomers won't remember this
you outed yourself as a shitter when you mentioned natural shitection instead of based Tremulous
that game was awful and you know it
shitter
RDR2 looks like your typical clayworld console shit, what are you talking about?
I'm already an argie spic so that's not necessary
has it ever been the inferior choice? also a pc is more than just a game machine as well
i don't know what it means user
argentina
games are cheap as fuck in argentina thanks to corruption
is this a meme?
pc graphics were already better than RDR2 in 2013 when metro last light came out
>this a free game with mods based on a 2009 PC game
Oh yeah, I thought it was officially supported. Instead it was a hardware mod.
got it
oh stop, RDR2 looks really good
it's also bannable I believe
Yeah you showed me. A multi plat that would have looked much better if had been developed exclusively for consoles. Next gen console will make the graphical disparity even further. For Christ sake, pc can't even keep up with current gen, which already has been on the market for 6 years.
>I used to prefer consoles, because the games were just better overall
That's certainly an interesting case of revisionist history.
>There is nothing on PC that even comes close to RDR2, and it's just one game
I assure you any random game you can think of on PC looks better than the motion blurred, post-processed garbage that is RDR2
>this is a 2011 game
>RDR2 looks really good
Yeah, by 2007 standards.
>I assure you any random game you can think of on PC looks better than the motion blurred, post-processed garbage that is RDR2
>complains about post-processing in RDR2
>posts a heavily ReShaded Witcher 3
This is NOT a real photo!
Around 2009-2010
>posts multiplat hoped down by pc port
If Witcher 3 was console exclusive it would lookednlike the original demo shown at e3
oh please
it really doesn't look much better than bf4 or metro last light which are both from 2013.
games like tomb raider on ultra settings on pc blow that shit out of the water
When gaming pcs became cheaper than drm boxes
This looks like some mod I installed on Skyrim and it made my fps dip to fucking 30 fps even on a gtx 1070. Fucking joke.
there's a difference between fog, blur and dof just to hide bad graphiccs and reshade which only changes the colors to be sharper
umm sweetie
>>Uses game footage ripped from a youtube video of base PS4 version.
God of War doesn;t look good even without cherrypicking. It's a really mediocre looking game. I have no idea why it's held up as a graphics showcase when most PS4 games look much better.
Looks like a 2010 game
>that ricer case
if your PC looks like a hotwheels car you're a faggot.
GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE
It is for certain things for sure.
But when it comes to playing games in your living room you can’t beat a console and you never will.
wtf bros how can our consoles even compete?!
So? GoldenEye influenced the Thief developers to have certain objectives exlcusive to higher difficultiies. If it wasn't for those influence, the game would still have those objectives, they just wou;dn't be tied to difficulty. While it's a neat addition, it's hardly something that had a huge effect on the underlying game design.
Thief had been in development for years before GoldenEye even came out, FYI.
so cinematic
>tfw you can connect a pc to your tv
>controllers also work on pc
>your retarded
you're*
Since 1993. IBM compatible x86 PCs could play Doom easily, and consoles couldn't handle it without sucking. Doom even killed off lines of z80 based PCs, leaving the x86 PCs ruling the world.
Goldeneye also popularized stealth in 3D games with open spaces, that's why they paid so much attention to it.
>I AM AN INFERIOR MORON
>dota2/CS/LoL
Yeah i enjoy russian kids screaming into mic and fucking up your match with retarded decisions
Before most of the people in this thread were born.
Just get a steam link or something like that for 20 bucks brah.
>$5K PC vs base consoles
Wow what a good comparison! Love it when PCfags sweat.
PC is the future t bh notebookcheck.net
I don't know if this goood or bad thing
90% of games from xbox already run on pc. Problem is xbox games are pure garbage.
man you must have super hearing to hear those russians in LoL when it doesn't have even have voice chat with randoms
>doom
Bitch please. Golden eye raped that shitty mindless shooter like it never existed and it's just one of many complete games that irrelevant pc user were drooling over back in the days. PC has always had shitty games compared to consoles.
What? CSGO and Dota 2 has voice char with randoms
>thinks you need to spend 5k to get 60fps in a game
ding ding! I found the retard!
In my (MY) opinion, since the start of the 8th gen, although I've been playing on PC since way before that. Practially every game gets a PC port nowadays, the libraries are very similar, and there's no reason to buy a PS4 if you already own a mid-high tier PC, unless you really really want to play some exclusive shit like GoW or Bloodborne.
On top of it all, you can always emulate old consoles and play around with texture packs and mods. Playing on consoles and not having all that accesibility and open hardware would make me feel crippled and depressed.
fpwp
fucking kids dont know PC has been the superior platform since the '80s.
and in LoL you get fucked by russian even without voicechat
yea that's why I said LoL..
You stole those right?
>floor staring simulator
>superior to any other fps
I once had a 3k$ pc and it was already overkill
5k$ why? just buy gaming components fot fucking xeon processor and quadro graphics goddamit.
600-1000$ Average gaming experience(better than consoles)
1000-1500$High class gaming experience
1500-2000$ High end gaming experience
2k$+Ultra high end
Anything more than 2.5k$ is not usually worth it from my experience
Goldeneye came out 6 years later silly zoomzoom, the same year PC had far deeper and TECHNOLOGICAL games than consoleshit like Total Annihilation, Dungeon Keeper, Fallout and Quake 2.
yea if you have no friends to play with you fucking loser
>you need 5 people to play game and not get fucked in the ass
Nice game
even getting to 2.5k is too much if your just gaming
i built mine for like 1.2k and it runs every game in max settings over 60fps
Well, there was a time when PC's were technically worse than consoles when it came to games. Early-mid 90's is where they started to catch up and surpass consoles, with stuff like Doom and Lucas Films games.
Keep sweating, PCfag.
I'll just be over here playing vastly superior games on a much better optimized platform with more stable online (You get what you pay for)
PChads were busy playing actual shooters like Quake while you were busy beating your prepubescent meat to that primitive autoaim garbage.
I don't even like mobas I was just calling you out for being a retard
I play csgo and the randoms I get are fine. but I'm also not a euro fag so I don't get russians as teammates
No pc's always beat consoles. I don't know where you're getting that "early mid-90's" shit from but it's wrong.
I actually can't tell if this guy is trolling or not
Yeah you get hue hue instead. Retard
>(You get what you pay for)
*pays to change display name*
Or, hear me out here, you could spend $400, get better hardware that fits under your tv, comes with the best controller available, the best games available,the best online network available, doesn't require a special monitor or a keyboard and mouse to use, and isn't tid to money pits like Steam or Windows.
Seems like a pretty easy choice to me.
>with more stable online (You get what you pay for)
I remember christmas 2014
what in the fuck did you type retard, i really hope you didnt mean to say you bought a xeon and a quaddro card for 5k because you're an actual fucking retard if you did
no? I get almost exclusively people from either california, arizona, utah, texas cause I get put in west coast north america servers
trolling or not, everybody knows he's a faggot
bait
What console does photoshop run on?
>snoys need to pay to change their avatars and names
>pchads can set up pony avatars for free
I think we both know who wins here
boy those console lads even have to pay for minecraft texture packs for god's sake
That and PSN is known for constantly leaking sensitive consumer data, just how deep is the stockholm syndrome?
NEVER
GAMES ONLY GOT RELEASED ON CONSOLE
PC ARE FOR WORK AND YOUTUBE
TRY TO KEEP UP GRAMPS
The PS2 era was the tipping point. Prior to the launch of the PS3 consoles and PC both had their own merits. They both had their upsides and downsides. Now consoles have all of the downsides of PC ownership none of the upsides and games are more expensive on console. Pricing on consoles is so fucked that physical copies of games cost less than digital ones.
>Caring about Avatars
KEK
Why are consoleplebs so dishonest? Just say you don't have a PC because you are poor (and you are poor because you waste money on overpriced games and paid online).
for what hackers?
not him but they really are broken on 60+ FPS
i.e. you sometimes randomly die when jumping over fences in SA
or
and if you werent fortunate enough to have a DOS PC then
>caring so much about avatars that you pay for them
>games are more expensive on console.
>Pricing on consoles is so fucked that physical copies of games cost less than digital ones.
OBJECTION!!
You just contradict yourself faggot
>Muffins
for fuck sake
you said so many stupid things so I'll just say this:
you do realize a console is a computer right?
it's basically a computer with a limited proprietary OS that is only capable of reading games made for it's OS
>money pits like steam or windows
windows is an os and steam is just a store for games so I don't even know what you mean by this but you know Linux is a free PC OS right?
>better hardware available
nope
>best online network available
??????????
>best games available
subjective
pc hardware traditionally sucked for the kinds of games you saw on 4th gen hardware
compare jazz jackrabbit to even the genesis and you'll see how badly pcs sucked at tilemapping
just because you expend 200$ for your steam profile to look golden for a month as your 5k$pc (4k$ on rgb) doesnt mean that everybody paid for that
In my (MY) opinion, since the start of the 8th gen, although I've been playing on PC since way before that. Practially every game gets a PC port nowadays, )Except Nintendos games, Sony's games, most or Rockstar's games, a lot of Xbox games, so basically all the games that actually matter) the libraries are very similar (other than it's missing al the good games I glossed over there), and there's no reason to buy a PS4 if you already own a mid-high tier PC, unless you really really want to play some exclusive shit like GoW or Bloodborne.
On top of it all, you can always emulate old consoles (because that's why you spend $thousands on a PC) and play around with texture packs and mods (Nude mods, and look I made a green coat instead of a red one, wow). Playing on consoles and not having all that accesibility (Access to good games is all I care about, and PC is missing most of them) and open hardware (Console hardware is put together by engineers, not cheeto fingered virgins) would make me feel crippled and depressed. (you should feel both)
There's no contradiction, digital games on consoles are ridiculously expensive since the consoleshit makers keep a monopoly on the only store unlike PC where there are dozens of stores freely competing.
>$5K PC
6700k with 1080 Ti is 1.5k dollars at most
i build muh pc about three years ago with mid range stuff and skimped out on the case. works fine, airflow is fine.
pic related
>4k on rgb
holy shit user are you trying to see your pc from space or what
>PS3 Octa Core vs C2DX 4cores
KEK
>Digital Games are CHEAPER OR EQUAL than steam
>Physical Games are CHEAPER THAN DIGITAL
>HENCE CONSOLE GAMES ARE CHEAPER THAN PC
KEK
>console wars
dont you retards have homework to do?
Hm I wonder who's behind these posts ...
>4k$ on rgb
>>Digital Games are CHEAPER OR EQUAL than steam
No they aren't.
>>Physical Games are CHEAPER THAN DIGITAL
Yes but only compared to console digital since it's a monopoly, they're still more expensive than PC digital games.
>>HENCE CONSOLE GAMES ARE CHEAPER THAN PC
No they aren't.
>3gen old cpu with a 1gen old vga
>missing the rest of core components
KEKEKKEKKEKEKEEKKEK
ITT: console players use their COMPUTERS that they could have spent a little bit more money on to get a premium gaming experience to instead argue with pc gamers about how gaming with a COMPUTER is inferior to gaming on a SHITTIER PROPRIETARY COMPUTER MADE BY SONY
THIS
CONSOLE GAMES ARE EXPENSIVE
EXAMPLE
GOW 20$ ON PSN
GOW 0$ ON PC
BLOODBORNE + DLC 10$ ON PSN
BLOODBORNE + DLC 0$ ON STEAM
ETC
>a 1080 ti and a 6700k cost 1.5k
it may be best not to sniff paint fumes
PC in 6 years:
>ray tracing, 144 fps, 4k, VR, all at the same time
Consoles in 6 years:
>you can now run this ps4 port at 60 fps!
>PROPRIETARY
Tell me more about those free and open source video games you play, user.
>CONSOLE CPU+VGA+RAM+PSU+CASE+CONTROLLER = 200$ can do 4K
>PC CPU+VGA+RAM+PSU+CASE 3K$ can do 4k
Need to buy Controller 50$
Need to buy monitor 4k$
Need to buy keyboard and mouse 150$
KEKEKKEKEKEKKEKEKKEKEKEKEKE
Since the late 1990s. With a small gap in 2003-2005 era or thereabouts as that gen of console really got going.
dont be ableist user
>been using rat tracing, 240fps, 4k, vr at the same time since 2018
POORFAGS BUDGET TIERS ARE AS PATHETIC AS CONSOLE PLEBS
I was referring to your console and operating system you fucking retard
Just upgraded my pc, what graphics-intensive games should I play to attempt to make it scream?
$350 CPU + $700 GPU = $1050 total
Both are barely 2 years old. The rest was for the other components you fucking retard
Windows 7
If you want to constantly bsod and have your drives wiped or be unable to play any old games use windows 10. Don’t even give a shit about some /g/ shit about data mining but every time I’ve used windows 10 I feel the same suffering and inability to run anything that I did when I had a mac
@453371346
>have to buy 4k display for pc
>but you don't for console
worst bait I've seen in this thread
So you are playing on gentoo?
try to run either BF1 with RTX ON at 4K and 240FPS Stables
try to run ARK at 4K with 240FPS Stables
metro exodus but even top of the line stuff screams with everything on ultrasuperduper settings
Age of Empires 2
this is NOT a real picture!!!
Windows 10 kind of sucks but it’s not so bad that you should stick with an OS that’s losing support. It’s better than Vista and 8 were. Everything is on it, it works fine, the interface is similar enough to 7 that you won’t get lost. It’s fine.
How long? umm, never?
new metro
Skyrim and minecraft are really popular with PC gamers
forget about your upscaling to """"""""4k"""""""""" did we?
>If you want to constantly bsod and have your drives wiped or be unable to play any old games use windows 10
What the fuck are you talking about? Some BSODs used to happen on W7->W10 upgraded systems rather than clean installs but that was fixed years ago, everything else is lies.
>Need to buy a 4K 240FPS IPS GSYNC Monitor
>Can Hookup any 4K HDR TV to a console
KEK
are you familiar with steamOS?
you don't have to have windows to play games on pc
I personally dual boot windows and mint but I have windows mostly for school stuff
New anno
@453371808
>have to hook up HDMI device to PC
>but it can't hook up to this other HDMI device
I keep finding more, I finally just gave up adding them, is this whole site just full of retards now?
Yet you replied to it?
It's from the one period before dedicated video hardware and direct x.
And of course the Console version was a watered down version of the REAL thing.
>SteamOS
>Deprecated by Valve
>Cant use latest Drivers
>Cant use OC Software
>Cant use Monitoring Software
>Cant use Recording/Stream/HACKS
KEK
RDR2 is full 4k vs 0k on PC ;)
>primitive autoaim garbage.
Heh
Wrong, PC Gaming was always irrelevant garbage until 2006 when the PS3 era started.
>i was only pretending to be retarded!
>SteamOS
"Open source base system with closed source components"
You clearly don't even care if something is proprietary or not so why do you pretend that you do?
Metro Exodus is the best thing I've seen in a long time. Shame that the game isn't that good.
>user describes the problems of a console OS and defeats himself in his own argument
>being so overwhelmingly proud that a PC game was inspired by the game's difficulty options that you think it was somehow an unprecedented technical achievement that people are envious of
>Console Output 4K HDR that any consumer tier TV has
>For PC you need a Monitor that can achieve 4K 240FPS and have GSYNC and IPS Display
try to keep up
>sans
get out
I didn't say steamOS was open source u fucking idiot. I said all consoles are and you don't get a choice with consoles
on pc at least we get to decide our os and hardware specifications
I only mentioned steamOS because it's basically a console OS for free on PC
>4K HDR that any consumer tier TV has
lol since when
@453372415
>4k displays just materialize in homes without any cost at all
>Console Output 4K
steamOS is open source though...
Remember when gaming was about the games instead of which platform you happen to choose lol, if you need precision accuracy then pc is better, otherwise console is fine. As long as it's console vs console and pc vs pc then it really doesn't make a fucking difference.
My fucking grandma has 4k tv for 300 bucks if you are not poot you have it
>Remember when gaming was about the games instead of which platform you happen to choose lol
That never happened, games used to be far more platform-dependent than today where everything is just glorified PCs.
>I didn't say steamOS was open source u fucking idiot. I said all consoles are
this nigger actually thinks consoles are open source
hahahahha holy shit get a load of this consoletard
i meant consoles are proprietary, which was my original argument
if you are not poot you have a pc
There's no denying that pc is definitely the better option for 99% of games both visually and control wise but realistically it doesn't matter unless pc players are pitted against console players in a multiplayer game.
>consoles propriertary
then why mine can load games from the disk and I can load home-brew software
KEK
but pc can't play RDR2 the best looking game of all time
When I was a child I though PC was only made for these autistic strategy games and simulators, then someone showed me multiplayer Half-Life. My life changed ever since.
this is just plain sad at this point, I'm starting to feel bad for consolepoverts
You did the exact same thing in your last post
>Pc doesnt have any worthwhile exclusives
Even if only 1% of pc exclusives are worthwhile thats still more exclusives than any modern console. Thats not even counting all the games pc has over any specific console that arent exclusive (botw over ps4, ps5 over switch, etc)
fpbp
lol cope
jesus christ you are retarded Yea Forums
go on and list all those good console games ever. oh right there literally has never been one besides bloodborne.
>black hand
>bragging about 98% multiplats
Fucking Sonybros.
Halo 5 is the best MP FPS of the gen
The opposite. PC was great during the 90s and early 2000, it had great exclusive games. Owning a gaming PC in 2019 is ridiculous; if you own a PC with a OS beyond XP is because you don't like PC games.
my penis rendered in blender
or you want 4K gayman
Oh right, forgot about the filters. Snoyniggers.
>tons of blur
>those jagged roads when they turn
>those grainy LOD textures in the distance
dude. im a pc user myself. you're making a fool of yourself
How does that even make any sense? Consoles don't have anything like 90's PC games while PC can still play those same games and there are plenty of new games inspired by those old games, you are just a poser that only plays mainstream AAA crap.
that's because the car's moving fast lmao
I don't think I could take a worse screenshot if I tried, it doesn't help that you have bad taste (GTAIV lma00o)
Beginning of Xbone and PS4 era
zoomer detected
No, I played all GTAs (yes there were others before III), IV is probably the worst one with literally nothing to do, they removed everything that made SA fun and added bullshit no one asked for like people constantly nagging you on the phone, V wasn't much better though and the online shit is a malignant cancer.
okay you're still zoomer ;)
If you weren't a zoomzoom you would know IV was universally hated and it's only recently that you IV apologist fags are popping up.
Was referring more to how the autoaim turns off at higher difficulties and not knowing that means you play on easy but anyway...
All console plebs are dirty phoneposters.
right we grew up
>the amount of win10 shills here and on g
7 is superior and any software worthy of existing will run on both even after the end of support
that said if you wanna use win7 on 8th gen intel/ryzen or newer, you'll have to add usb drivers during he install or buy a ps2 keyboard
i wouldnt recommend 7 to a non tech autist though, get linuxmint or win8/10
remember not to pay for windows, especially 10
Gta V > Gta iV > Gta San Andreas > Gta Vice City > Gta III
dumbass
Fundamentally shit taste.
Thank God for mods
>Win 10 > Win7
Try to keep up faggot just because you still use and old c2d because you are to poor its not a problem
Correct, that's the release order of the games
But it actually doesn't. PC exclusives are indieshit aside from Civ. Civ is great.
where did i say 10 was better than 7?
LCS>III>IV>VC>VCS>SA>V
Civ isn't PC exclusive you fucking mong
Indies are already better than anything consoles have to offer. Enjoy your 5 games a year.
V ONLINE > V > SHIT > OTHER GTAS
Imagine being so mad that your 5k$ pc dont get exclusive games and you need to wait a few years for 200$ console ports
>you are too rich too afford consoles
Great argument, user, lmao.
This thread still up? You guys are pathetic
>V ONLINE
Was fucking bad. It was grindy garbage and I can't believe anyone on consoles played it for long. I only gave a shit because I got funbux from hackers when I transferred to PC.
fuck you kid
>5k$ to rich
>poorfag in a nutshell