Why kaiji fans hate kakegurui so much?

why kaiji fans hate kakegurui so much?

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Because kaiji is funny and good and the other shit is weird fanservice and autism

Haven't watched Kakegurui. Does it have the same amount of tension and intense moments and stakes as Kaiji?

No, it's basically One Punch Man but for betting

That sounds boring, I'm not watching it

Because their girls aren't as moe as Kaiji.

Kaiji doesn't have stakes or high tension. He always gets away with it and the x million yen powerlevel trash is used the same way in Kakegurui.
Kaiji pretends to be real and gritty while Kakegurui just admits to being sole entertainment.

>He always gets away with it
He doesn't. He always gets worse after each arc, also he gets his hands and ears fucked up

>He always gets worse after each arc
Not really. The artificial powerlevel cancer just changes. If his debt is 60 million or 200 million yen has absolutely no meaning.
>he gets his hands and ears fucked up
And gets them stitched back on, nothing of value was lost. Just some artificial stakes that didn't amount to anything.

you are literally making shit up just to stir up trouble

Seems to me like you're anti-anti-moe

Sounds like the other way around to me mate.
Kaiji has nothing to prove.

Because people hate garbage manga?

>If his debt is 60 million or 200 million yen has absolutely no meaning.
The difference is being allowed freedom or being enslaved (which happened to him for several months). Even when Kaiji wins money it comes with caveats. The moral of Kaiji is that gambling isn't easy, Kakegurui is all about how gambling is easy.

Point of Kaiji is that gambling is an unhealthy addiction where the the weaklings get taken advantage off by a few big players who stack the odds against you.
Same shit in Kakegurui. The main girl is mentally ill and the whole school gambling setting is a fucking nightmare no sane person would want to participate in.

>same thread again
fuck off

Because I hate women

You need to understand that gambling in Kaiji is the short route to escape the mediocrity of an "honest" life living under the boot of rich fucks who don't care about human lives.
Kaiji is lured time and time again into gambling but grudgingly grows up little by little through each game and experience teaching him a basic lesson in adulthood.
But also he's a hero because he isn't driven solely by addiction or greed, his real motivation kicks in when he has a chance to bring the people on top down a few pegs even if it's a small swipe for them. He wants to resist and value the life they so easily dismiss.

Kakegurui is boobs.

>Kaji:
Kino, only like 4 cringe scenes
>Kakagurui
Le edgy le waaaaah le face close up
Le booba coom bait
Le i'm unbeatable but not really lol

When you think of a stinky and weird weeb you think of kakagurui

The Kaiji manga is an anti-draw, nobody read it except old timers and schyzos like the dude that has been translating this shit for 10+ years youtube.com/watch?v=qYnAJWHEsuA
It's even worst outside of Japan because nobody care about mahjong and if you don't care about mahjong you are better off reading Saki so you can at least enjoy the art and jerk off to lesbian shit.

Usogui is the proof that even casual/younger readers can get into lenghty manga like that, but Fukumoto is a lazy fucker and never tried to improve his art, that's why it never got popular even after a successfull anime adaptation

Because hating Kakegurui is the only way for them to bring attention to their epic manly manga. They hate Squid Game for same reasons.

theyre jeaulous because kakegurui managed to be a far superior series in every aspect, while their shitty anime fell into obscurity

they need something to get mad at while they are in beer drinking namek

>kaiji is funny and good
ZAWA ZAWA ZAWA ZAWA ZAWA USO USO ZAWA USO ZAWA
DURR I'M IDIOT KAIJI, I WILL INEXPLICABLY MAKE THE WORST POSSIBLE DECISIONS THAT ANYONE NOT FUNCTIONALLY RETARDED WOULD KNOW NOT TO DO!
NO WAIT, I AM GENIUS KAIJI NOW (ZAWA), I AM A BRILLIANT WORLD CLASS STRATEGIST WHO IS OUTSMARTING THE MOST POWERFUL MURDER-TORTURE YAKUZA BOSSES ON EARTH (USO ZAWA ZAWA)!
IT'S TIME FOR 10 EPISODES OF ROCK PAPER SCISSORS (ZAWA)!!!

Kaiji is social commentary for midwits, yeah.
Kakegurui at least doesn't pretend to be anything than gambling autism with fanservice.

zawa zawa

The problem with that is Gambling Addiction is a real serious problem. All of Fukumoto's gambling mangas comment on this problem even if they're focused on different aspects of gambling. But a key factor is that Fukumoto's mangas are usually realistic, especially Kaiji. Anything and everything in Kaiji could exist in the real world. That's why Kaiji's theme about the dangers of gambling and surviving it hits so well. Kakeguirui is all about style over substance. The hero is a character who could win every match, but doesn't. Kaiji's hero can barely stay alive and free.

I like both. But I am also a coomer who loves comedy and gambling.

>yeah I watch shit I'm so smart please ignore my acne and boodfat pls sir
FAggggGGGOOOOT

>But a key factor is that Fukumoto's mangas are usually realistic, especially Kaiji.
user, he had the entire fucking casino secretly tilted without the owner knowing to win at pachinko so he could pay off the debt that was keeping him in a secret underground labor camp for high stakes rock paper scissors cruise ship losers.

yeah buddy totally unrealistic, I'm sure you also believe the cameras just happened to go off while the guards were taking a nap while they were supposed to be guarding a high profile criminal and it is totally makes sense how epstein was able to kill himself.
any other alternative is unrealistic
and it was just massages going on on his island too

Don't take this the wrong way user, but have you taken your meds today?

t. Coomer who didn't watch the show

I like it, the giant boobs, the creepy face close ups, the girls touching each other, the crazy bitches

>user, he had the entire fucking casino secretly tilted without the owner knowing to win at pachinko so he could pay off the debt that was keeping him in a secret underground labor camp for high stakes rock paper scissors cruise ship losers.
I knew you'd say that. But here's the deal: Cruise ships being used for underground gambling in international waters? True. Labor camps existing full of debt slaves? True. The Bog Arc is probably Kaiji's most oulandish plan, and we see him come up with it, hire help, struggle with set up, negotiate for extra money AND he still barely escapes his debt by the skin of his teeth. The Bog itself is nothing absurd, underground Japanese Casino certainly exist. So do rigged pachinko machines. It's only Kaiji meticulous Oceans Eleven heist that is absurd.

Let me add that XX sucked though, god I had to force myself through it

get filtered nigger

Every bet, for the most part, the opponent is cheating and the MC figured out how, then they use the trick against them psychologically to win.
The only real stakes are that they're essentially student slaves and are betting their futures.

>And gets them stitched back on, nothing of value was lost
Can I cut off your fingers and reattach them? Nothing of value would be lost, in fact, you'd be gaining some cool finger scars.

why OP is brown?

The fuck are you doing in Yea Forums, if this kind of metamorphoses confuses you?

>Usogui enters a gamble
>trillions of Yen are at stake
>the game is thumb war
>the opponent is cheating, his thumb is clearly augmented
>Baku loses the first round, our protagonist is in BIG trouble
>the referee has lost confidence
>"A gambler that keeps on winning doesn't exist"
>Usogui suddenly gets a lot more attractive
>*ahem*
>*unwraps kariume*
>"synesthesia"
>close up of his face, nose bleeding and eyes dilated
>cut to his opponent pissing himself in the corner
>"you are....
>....big liar"
>this triggers his opponent to have a flashback to his childhood
>this in turn triggers marco to have a 10 chapter fight where he unlocks kaioken x20
>a dark silhouette appears in the distance, solving a rubik cube by spinning it on his index finger
>"Baku....is a gambler...."
>this is all merely a trick to bait another person into a gamble
>Usogui enters a gamble

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Because I'm an adult.

Truly the gambling manga for intellectuals

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>Kaiji is trapped in a game
>he watches someone lose
>he watches another person lose
>he realizes he has to team up with people to increase his odds of escaping
>he figures out the game
>he relays this to his nakama
>their survival hinges on trusting each other
>someone betrays kaiji
>said person hits the (((air compressor))) and fails
>Kaiji cries, and finds himself facing the (((air compressor))) as well
>he has a revelation, everyone cries, the narrator can't stop sucking his dick and comparing pachinko to tigers raping zeus
>kaiji wins, he gives up all his money to help those who betrayed him

repeat this for years and you get kaiji

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at least get better pasta
Typical Kaiji arc:
>Oh shit, I'm poor
>ZAWA...
>You've got debts, faget
>FUCK!
>ZAWA ZAWA...
>KAIJI HAS DEBTS! DEEEEEEEEEEEEBBBBTSSS!
>ZAWA...
>Gambru? Want me to gambru?
>Gambru it is
>ZAWA...
>KAIJI LOST EVERYTHING! EEEEEVVVERYYYTHHIIIIIIIIINNNGGG!!
>Baww
>Baww some moar
>ZAWA ZAWA...
>Shikashi!
>Kaiji wants MOOAAAARRR!!!!!
>I'll bet everything in this gambru
>SHIKASHIIIII!!
>Oh shit, I'm losing
>ZAWA ZAWA
>I need help from some random loser
>SHIKAAASHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!
>KAIJI IS LOSING!
>KAIJI KAIJI KAAAAAAIIIIIIIJIIIIIIIIII!!!! JHSAHKDSVLSDFLGDFLGLD
>23 episodes, 3 big noses and one Tsumo later
>KUYASHII!
>KUYASHI!
>ZAWA ZAWAA...
>KUYASHIIII!!
>KUYASHI!
>ZAWAAA...
>KUYASHIIIII!!
>KUYASHI!
>SHIKAAAHFDGLFKJGBFGHSHIII!!
>I won...
>Zawa... ?
>KAIJI WOOON!!!
>SHIKAAAAIIIJIIII!!
>I've lost mah dosh again
>What's gonna happen to Kaiji? We don't know, Triad is being a faggot and we haven't seen shit since episode 4.

HE HATES IT

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Kaiji is so fucking bad
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I never watched Kaiji, but anytime they talk on Kagegurui in these threads, they seems to be really mad that Kagegurui is generally more popular of the two gambling shows, even though they seem to use gambling is very different ways. Kagegurui seems to have more in common with horny battle shounen while using gambling and casinos as an aesthetic.

Kaijifags hate women, simple as that.

Bullshit, I love Mikoko.

>Kagegurui seems to have more in common with horny battle shounen while using gambling and casinos as an aesthetic.
This, coming from someone who likes both they are two different genres that both happen to have gambling. Kaiji is about the thrills, philosophical discourse (whether its good or not isn't my point, the philosophical monologues are right there), lessons about the dangers of gambling, and the character growth of the main protagonist. Kagegurui is about even more thrills and also insane hot women molesting each other without social commentary or judgement. You can enjoy both for different reasons.

There is no anime smarter than midwit. Midwit is the intellectual peak of anime and that's ok. Why is everyone pretending the have iq150? Kaiji is still a relatively smart anime.

No, I like women and men equally. Kaiji is mai waifu.

I love Kaiji, but you have to admit that losing some cash is the last loss Kaiji had and that was part 4. He's been winning since, though obviously not without monumental effort and enough stress to instantly age you 30 years.

>nothing of value was lost.
Nigga he got sent to a prison camp for several months. Furthermore, 2 of the people that he saved from there ended up stabbing him in the back.

The 2nd arc was a direct consequence of Kaiji getting stabbed in the back. . Kaiji absolutely has consequence.

Legendary manga and copypasta

Because it's only one or two things in the entire series that has run for 6 seasons that suspend disbelief, you can forgive them. They're small flaws. It's usually realistic, which is a lot by the standards of any manga.
You can't do the same and name one (1) thing unusually realistic about kakegurui, or like, bleach, it would have no effect because the whole thing is bonkers lol.

Where is kaji?

I just finished re-watching Kaiji holy fuck the bog was so shit, thought I'd like it more on second watch but it went on way to long. Is Kakeguri worth watching I need something else to watch like it, failing that I'll just re-watch Akagi.

what about saki?

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